Favorite 'Parks and Rec' Memories

12:34Rashida Jones:Great.

12:35Amy Poehler:Leslie Knope. Yep. Gretzky Susan Pellegrino. Okay. Like this, so Gretzky Susan Pellegrino was like the fourth in a series of names that for some reason all involved the last name of the greatest hockey player who ever lived, Wayne Gretzky. I don't offhand remember who Gretzky Susan Pellegrino is. Also, it should be noted hyphens, huge part of my naming process.

12:59Aziz Ansari:Yeah, so exciting.

13:01Amy Poehler:It's a way to get another name in there.

13:02Aziz Ansari:Another name and also there's no way that someone's going to have this name.

13:05Amy Poehler:No one's first name is Gretzky Susan. Gretzky hyphen Susan. Typhoon Montalban

13:12Aziz Ansari:Typhoon was

13:13Amy Poehler:Donna's hairdresser Typhoon also Matt Murray I believe named gave Typhoon the first name Typhoon we needed a last name where do you go for the last name Ricardo Montalban Typhoon Montalban Sandra Sassanorp Sandra Sassanorp was I believe I could have this wrong it was like Sandra Snorp and then the legal was like didn't clear we found a Sandra Snorp somewhere So guess what you do? You add five more S's. Now you're good.

13:42Aziz Ansari:Cisandrous.

13:43Amy Poehler:Cisandrous. Summer Oli Kraken Frog Frog. Okay. This is a Monty Python ripoff. Straight up.

13:50Aziz Ansari:Okay.

13:51Amy Poehler:Ole, O-L-E with an accent. And I guess just that part. There's a Monty Python sketch called, I think, Election Night Special, where they're just going through election results and local elections all over the country. and there's a silly party and a sensible party. So all the people in the sensible party have names like John Smith and all the people in the silly party have very crazy names. And there's also a very silly party and a slightly silly party. If you want names, go watch that sketch. It'll sate you. Summer Ole Kraken Frog Frog. That's a good one. Frog Frog is a great last name. Great one.

14:32Amy Poehler:Yeah.

14:34Adam Scott:Okay, so do you think some of your best acting was in Parks and Rec when you had to pretend that you didn't know who Genuine was?

14:42Mike Schur:You know, it's still one of my biggest complaints. I remember we did the table read for that, and I was like, no, no. No one's going to buy it because I don't buy it, okay? Pick anybody else on this cast to try to play that in an honest way. It is so unfair that you're making me do this. It really, yeah, it still hurts.

15:03Adam Scott:Because how familiar are you with Genuine? We were married. Genuine.

15:12Mike Schur:I mean, you know, I live in 90s R &B. That's where my heart is. It's not here. I mean, it is with you, but for the most part, it's not present. It's in 90s R &B. So he's a very important figure.

15:27Adam Scott:Yeah. I feel like we've had some hard-ass laughs. And I was trying to think the other day, like, places that we've laughed, deep laughs. And it really does add years to my life. I know that. And I wonder if you could tell the story about when we were on Parks and it was – because we talk about it. We've talked about it before. When we were on Parks and it was the first season, it was the hunting episode. and just kind of set up. We were shooting that whole week way far away somewhere in California. You know, I don't even remember where. And we had to do a scene with Nick Offerman. And that, I think about it sometimes the way that laugh came.

16:14Adam Scott:It was like... Giggles. It was giggle, giggle, orgasm city. But don't worry, we'll cut that. But what do you remember about it?

16:25Mike Schur:What do you want? Well, I remember we were, he maybe ate something weird and we were trying to give him Ipecac.

16:32Adam Scott:Isn't that what it was? So Nick Offerman playing Ron Swanson ate something. Yeah. I don't remember actually what happened in the show. Isn't that funny?

16:39Mike Schur:I think I was like determined as a nurse. I was like, you have to throw up. Like you can't. Right. You're going to get sick. And he's like, I'm fine. Right. And we were trying to get this like liquid in his mouth. And, you know, it's Hollywood, so things that happen, like, on camera don't actually happen in real life. So it was written that we, like, hold him down, and he's resisting us, and we give him this thing. But, like, you don't know how small you are because I think both of us, like, I'm always like, I'm like a tall person, right? Like, I ask people if I feel tall. Yeah, I feel like a tall person, but I'm not.

17:17Mike Schur:And I'm not. How tall are you? Five, three and a half? Yeah. Yeah, five, two. And Nick is solid. Yeah. He's a solid dude. Yeah, he's like a Midwestern corn-fed dude. Yeah, dense and muscular. And we were trying to hold him down, and he was whipping us around with such ease. Like, we couldn't, we actually, both of us could not hold him down. And he was like, literally, he would just go, beep, and we would just fly off the bed in each direction. We could not stop laughing.

17:48Aziz Ansari:We each had one arm. Yeah. And he would, it felt like just the flick of a wrist. Because he was being gentle. He was being gentle. Yeah, he wasn't really, he wasn't fighting for his life.

17:59Mike Schur:Yeah, no, no.

18:00Adam Scott:And we could not get him to stay down.

18:03Mike Schur:Could not, could not.

18:04Adam Scott:And I remember that feeling. Also, I think there's something fun about wrestling. There is. It's so good.

18:10Aziz Ansari:It's so good. And being thrown around is so fun. Yes. And he was throwing us around. And I feel like I just, like if I was to picture it in my mind, you were just like, whee! Like I could just see you going past me in your hair going, whee! And then your legs going, whee! And me, and I just remember like, Rashida! Like I've never seen you flying by, which can't be true.

18:34Mike Schur:I feel like we were tumbling all over the floor. Like every time we got back on the bed, we were like, and we were kind of like in each, We were both trying to be like on top of him and then like just flipping over really quickly.

18:47Aziz Ansari:And I think too because Nick is such a lovely, gentle guy in general, we knew there was something about us that knew we weren't going to get hurt. It was safe, yeah. But he was making like grunting bear sounds. It was really, really, really. It was really fun. That was a really, I mean, I'm trying to think of like there was so many good crack up moments. Crack up moments.

19:06Adam Scott:I'm 100 years old.

19:08Mike Schur:What a crack up.

19:09Adam Scott:But I'm just like, I was like.

19:11Mike Schur:There's that spot in Andy and April's house. Remember where we could never get a scene done? Just that one, that living room. There was a dead spot.

19:20Adam Scott:Yeah. Yeah. It was haunted.

19:21Mike Schur:Yeah. And then I remember there was one time you were like, Rashida, because I could not get through it. But I really, it felt like haunted. It did not feel like it was my fault.

19:29Aziz Ansari:Yeah. I'm sorry I said that. There was, a couple of times I would see bloopers for the show and I'd be like, Amy. No, but those days were so long. They were.

19:36Mike Schur:They were long. And it was fun until it wasn't. You're like, oh my God, it's dead. We just want to go home.

19:40Adam Scott:I know. And there was a scene for people that care. There was a spot in that set where anyone who stood there couldn't get their lines. And then, of course, it became self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways. Yeah. But there was just a lot of deep laughs and deep and deep laughs off camera. Like one of the things one of the things I treasure, and there's so many things I treasure about my friendship with you, was that we would be talking like this. and we'd be just talking and talking and just like talking about our day and talking about life. And then they would just go, action, and then we would just talk like Leslie and Ann.

20:22Adam Scott:And we'd do our scene and be like, I'll speak for myself, kind of knew it, kind of didn't. And then they'd cut, they'd work on it, and we would just go back to talking.

20:33Mike Schur:It was like a dream job. We filmed in between our conversations. And also I think I remember very clearly in the pilot because we had already been friends for years when we shot the pilot and they were doing one of those spy shots and we were in your office and we were talking and it was like, you know, other people were like, oh, this is great. Like, this is a thing that really works. Their friendship, we're really going to be able to sell it. And we're like, duh. Duh. No kidding. What do you mean?

20:57Adam Scott:I mean, they really did base the entire show at the end of the day on the fact that Leslie and Anne were, you know, each other's number one. Yeah. Yeah. Not hard to do. No. And what, I mean, we've talked about this before, but we, when we first started the show, I think it was like, it was kind of like, we were trying to figure out who was going to play what part. And who was going to come on board. And, and kind of like the beginnings of that show were, I'll say a little clumsy.

21:32Aziz Ansari:Crunchy. Crunchy.

21:33Mike Schur:Crunchy. Can we talk about it? Yeah, I'd love to. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was crunchy.

21:38Aziz Ansari:Because I think for—I don't think a lot of people know this. For the beginning, I think we both were worried that we had taken each other's part. Like, yes.

21:49Mike Schur:Yeah. So I had been on hold for this untitled thing that Greg and Mike were going to write. Right. And I had done a year on The Office, and they let me go, which made sense. It made sense.

22:04Adam Scott:You had such a tough job there because everybody wanted Jim and Pam. Totally. And then guess who shows up? A very likable, cool, and everyone was like, oh, no, wait.

22:13Mike Schur:I love Karen. It did not feel that way. People did not like me. Like fans were not about it. But they had to create tension for the relationship to be earned later. So I was the third point in the triangle. It's fine. I, like, accept it. But anyway, so Mike was like, we're working on this other show. I'll put you on hold. We don't know what it is yet. I remember people thought it was like a spinoff of The Office for a second. But anyway, so they kept like kind of changing the main characters of the show. When they pitched it to me, the boss was a guy. And they didn't know if they were going to cast me or not.

22:47Mike Schur:But I remember you were extremely pregnant. Yeah. We'd just gotten back from Italy. You and I were in Italy. Yeah. That's right. We were in Italy. And it was very hot. That's right. And a day later, you were like, let's go to lunch. I need to talk to you about something. Do you remember where we went? Pastis. Pastis.

23:05Adam Scott:Yes, I do.

23:05Mike Schur:In New York City.

23:06Adam Scott:I do. Oh, God. And I said, let's talk about something.

23:09Aziz Ansari:Oh, dear. Oh, dear. No, no, no. And I was like, I want you to raise this baby with me.

23:16Mike Schur:It's yours.

23:17Aziz Ansari:This baby is yours. I know. That's impossible. And you need to accept it.

23:20Mike Schur:But you – no, I actually hold this moment as like a gold standard of friendship and being able to take care of oneself and the person that you love at the same time. I really do, Polos, because what you did and how you did it was very hard because you took me to lunch and said, I'm so sorry, but they offered me the part. Both of us thinking it was the same part I was on hold for, being created by a friend of ours. And so I immediately started crying in pasties. And you held my hand, and you were so warm, and you were so – there was something about it where you were like, I know, I'm sorry, buddy.

23:56Mike Schur:But you also, you didn't like do the thing that I sometimes do where I'm codependent where I'm like, I know, I suck. I'm the worst person. I don't even deserve it. Like whatever I would say to try to make the other person feel better, which doesn't work. You didn't do that. You like held your space and you also comforted me at the same time, which was like a very beautiful thing. I wonder what Shure's version of this is. Let me tell you. Okay. Because I left him a message almost immediately because I'm not shy. And I was like, oh, I'm such an idiot for thinking I could even be on this show. Like, anybody wants me on this show.

24:30Mike Schur:Of course I didn't get this. Amy is like a comedy goddess.

24:33Aziz Ansari:Oh, my God, what a mean part of yourself to be. Very mean, very mean.

24:35Mike Schur:That's a person we're trying to not invite to the dinner party anymore. So I called him. I was like, hey, would love to talk to you. He was on a plane. And he landed and he's like, uh. I was like, mm-hmm, you want to tell me what's going on? Because it would have been really nice for you to tell me and not Amy to tell me that I wasn't getting this job. And he's like, no, no, no, back up. We changed the boss. It's a woman. And Amy's playing the boss. And I was like, you, oh, my God. Like, we might be working together? Yeah. What?

25:05Aziz Ansari:It kind of went from, oh, no, to, oh, my God, we might be the two women on the show. Yes.

25:12Mike Schur:And I still wasn't cast because I still had to do a bunch of chemistry reads after that. But that became, you know, this huge possibility of, like, my life being the best. from the worst to the best. God, I'm sweating even thinking about that. He wasn't, they just hadn't decided things. And they were trying to build around you, I think is what happened, around that character. So I think they had just done that. And I think you wanted to tell me as soon as possible because we were so close, which was the right instinct. And Mike decided to get on a plane, which was his instinct.

25:48Aziz Ansari:And he just flew for hours. He wasn't even going anywhere. He just got on a plane. And that's what execs do. That's what a powerful person does, is they get on the plane.

25:57Mike Schur:They just get on as many planes as possible. My phone was off.

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26:34Paul Rudd:Your little ZZ's all grown up.

26:36Aziz Ansari:I know. My ZZ is just an old man now.

26:40Paul Rudd:I know. If you watch, whenever I see old parks things, I was like, I didn't know that me and Aubrey did a show when we were little kids. Like, it's really...

26:49Aziz Ansari:How old were you when you started on the show?

26:51Paul Rudd:I was 13 in season one. And then when we finished, I just turned 18. I got my driver's license like in the middle of the run.

27:00Aziz Ansari:A lot of people don't know that you were 18 when you were playing Tom Haverford on Parks and Rec.

27:04Paul Rudd:Yeah.

27:04Aziz Ansari:It is true, though. You look like a baby. You were a baby.

27:10Paul Rudd:I didn't know anything. Yeah. The first seasons, I didn't know how to act or anything. I should not have been on television. NBC should be like, we got to get, is there any Indian guy that's done more acting?

27:21Aziz Ansari:A lot of people don't know you were the first person hired for Parks.

27:25Paul Rudd:Yeah, I met with them. Yeah, what was that meeting like? Do you remember it? Well, it was so mysterious what they were up to. Yeah. I had a meeting with them and I told them, I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is, that would be a dream job. and, you know, this was like when The Office was on and Mike and Greg were both involved in that and that was, you know, my favorite show like that on the air. And so I told them, whatever you're up to, let me know. And then, of course, you know, when it all came together with you and Rashida and everything. Well, I'm kind of learning.

27:56Aziz Ansari:When I was talking to Plaza, when Plaza was here, she was talking about, like, her meeting with them, too. Yeah, yeah. Very famous stories.

28:04Paul Rudd:Yeah, yeah.

28:05Aziz Ansari:I know, and it's kind of funny. I kind of forgot the Avengers Assemble feeling of those guys going out and getting people and

28:12Adam Scott:bringing them in and talking about like, we're going to do something very cool. I mean, it didn't

28:18Aziz Ansari:even feel like there was a ton of auditioning. It was more just them picking people that they thought was funny.

28:24Paul Rudd:Not only funny, and I feel like all of us, whenever we see each other do interviews, kind of say this kind of stuff ad nauseum, but it's so true. But also just the best people I've ever met in my life.

28:36Aziz Ansari:Yeah.

28:37Paul Rudd:Like, really, I cannot believe it because we've all done other stuff. And, you know, not everybody's, you know, look, we've all done other stuff. I don't talk about everything the way I talk about parks. You know, you do something. Some people, it's different energy, not necessarily mean or bad, but just something like we all just clicked and there was a vibe that worked with all of us. And just to pay respect to you and Mike, you know, when I did Master of None with Alan And as I become a director, I, you know, what I learned from you and Mike in terms of how to lead. I mean, I can't thank you enough.

29:12Paul Rudd:It was the best role model I could have ever had.

29:15Adam Scott:Sees. Let me see if you can guess how many times, how many episodes of Parks you did. Do you, would you know to guess? I would say between seven and 13. Ten.

29:30Kathryn Hahn:Ten. Okay. Okay. Between 7 and 13. It's kind of right between. That's amazing. But it was such a huge impact on my life. Like it's still the thing I get most recognized for. Really? Yes. And I just remember, well, first of all, you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties at lunch every day. And anybody that walked on that like set just was filled with such confidence and such joy, which is, I had the greatest time on that show. I have such, I don't have the greatest memory.

30:08Aziz Ansari:That's where we kind of fell in love. But that is, that's really, Catherine, where we, I think, actually met.

30:12Adam Scott:My first kind of like real memory is in the trailer of Parks and Rec. And we used to, Catherine is talking about dance parties. And we used to do a thing where just like after lunch, we would play three songs. The great Autumn Butler, our makeup artist, had great taste in music and we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs. Yeah. The best. I think for me, a way to honestly just keep my energy up. Yeah. But it became a way to meet people in the trailer. And I remember two things I loved about you right away. How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that. You love to laugh.

30:48Kathryn Hahn:If someone's going to break in a scene, it's this professional over here. You know, I don't, do you think you break a laugh? I have to be really serious in my mind. Like if I have, because if it starts to happen, it is tears. Yeah. And mucus.

31:04Adam Scott:But you, I have seen you in bloopers and you're hanging in. Yeah, I do hang in. You hang in.

31:09Kathryn Hahn:I do.

31:10Adam Scott:Yeah. You, in fact, go in harder, I think. I think I have to.

31:15Kathryn Hahn:I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit. I do. I go harder.

31:20Adam Scott:I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at improvising.

31:25Aziz Ansari:In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised.

31:32Adam Scott:Were they really? Well, one of the favorites, one of TikTok and memes and gifs and gifs is Poncho.

31:39Aziz Ansari:Yeah, Poncho was very surreal. So let's talk about what happened for people that have never seen that. Tell us what that scene was.

31:45Kathryn Hahn:Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm the first person.

31:52Adam Scott:Well, for people that aren't watching, she just transformed. I just transformed.

31:56Aziz Ansari:Her eyes turned dark and she's a completely different person.

31:58Kathryn Hahn:A lot more hairspray. I went to their house. They have children. I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap all over me. and at some point the kids rush by with paint nail me with the paint and at some take just to make you guys laugh I don't even did not have any idea it was gonna be any I just swung my arms open

32:25Aziz Ansari:I went poncho poncho and that really has it's like Batman's cape I mean oh that was the best

32:36Kathryn Hahn:like I just wanting to make you guys laugh and just having so the energy is so loose so I like it's funny you say that by improvising again I can do it if I know who I am and like the given circumstances and like that I feel like I feel really free in that department but just well you

32:53Adam Scott:know how like we we were on set a lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam and I wonder too if it's because of your both of your training but I would watch the way you two worked. And you would have a moment where you'd stay really, really loose. But just right before the scene, and I can think of a couple of scenes, the great scene where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie, no, basically, you have to start thinking bigger, which is a huge moment in the show. I love the writing in that scene.

33:28Kathryn Hahn:Oh my God, that scene.

33:28Adam Scott:Mike Schur and the writers, like, I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie and they sent people in to give her these messages. And Jen Barkley is just this, like, Gen X ball buster who kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly right before the scene, you just took a moment. and I think we joked about it later

33:57Aziz Ansari:because I was like, it was like watching, it was watching a real actor. Oh, God.

34:07Adam Scott:You were on Parks and Rec.

34:10Aziz Ansari:You only did five episodes. Do you know that?

34:12Rashida Jones:I know.

34:13Aziz Ansari:But you played a character that stood the test of time. I mean, I mean, if only, if only we had Bobby Newport, just a guy who wants to be liked.

34:24Rashida Jones:Yeah. I know, if only, right?

34:26Aziz Ansari:I mean, Bobby at the time.

34:28Rashida Jones:He means well, just doesn't quite grasp any of it.

34:31Aziz Ansari:He wants to go to the after party. Yeah.

34:33Adam Scott:Bobby Newport, played by you, was like the rich son of the Sweetums family, the family, the Newports that owned the big factory in the fictional town of Pawnee that Parks and Rec took place. And Bobby Newport ran against Leslie. And it was like what Bobby had that Leslie could never get was that, gee whiz, like, I can't believe I fell into this. Like, I just want to have a good time, you guys.

35:02Rashida Jones:Yeah. I think that's even a line that's how Bobby feels about abortion, isn't it? Oh, yeah, right. What did he say about abortion? I guess my thoughts on abortion are just like, I want everybody to have a good time.

35:13Aziz Ansari:I just want everybody to have a good time. I mean, come on, guys. What? And Bobby kept getting flustered by Leslie wanting it because he wants it. Like there's that great scene where he's like, can you just drop out of the race because I want it. Yeah.

35:28Rashida Jones:Yeah.

35:29Aziz Ansari:Because I want it.

35:29Rashida Jones:I want it. Come on. Please. You can do it. Just do it. Come on.

35:35Aziz Ansari:And people are like, I don't know. I love the guy. He's great. And he doesn't seem to want it. Yeah. And he doesn't know anything. But neither do I. That's, you know.

35:45Rashida Jones:Leslie Knope is capable. and great for that job. Bobby Newport is not.

35:50Aziz Ansari:No, and Bobby was, I think, was thinking, like, maybe I'll just get it, and then, Leslie, you can do it.

35:55Rashida Jones:Yeah. How about that? That's a good compromise.

35:58Aziz Ansari:What are your memories of doing that character? It was such a funny character. You were so great.

36:03Rashida Jones:Thank you, Amy. My memories of that were, I can't believe I get to work with my favorite people in the world. You and Adam and Catherine and Rashida. and like it was like this is the dream i mean this is the you know i remember when you were talking to tina on the very first episode you did where you were saying you feel like the how the great thing that can happen if you are able to sustain enough of a career that you can get to a point where you work with your friends you get to work with people you really like because it's not work it's just it's it's just the best and i mean it was such a fun character obviously the show is so great and you're so great in it um it was it was it was just it was a dream yeah it was a dream and you know and i was uh i loved it i loved every second of it i loved hanging out with all you guys

37:03Adam Scott:it was so fun it was really fun it was and that and it was those scenes were so funny like he got You got to do the stupidest – talk about fun stupid. It's the stupidest stuff.

37:14Rashida Jones:Yeah. Well, there's nothing – there's nothing funnier to me than unearned confidence.

37:22Adam Scott:Yeah.

37:22Rashida Jones:Like just – somebody feels like they've – I've got it figured out. And it's like, no, you don't. Yeah. But if it's – and if it's like nice unearned – like if it's fun – it's really funny if it's not nice unearned confidence. But that was the thing. He had a lot of kind of unearned confidence, but he was just dumb.

37:47Aziz Ansari:Yeah, he wanted to have a good time. He was sweet. He was sweet.

37:51Rashida Jones:And that was a fun thing to get to play. It's a fun kind of character to get to play.

38:00Aziz Ansari:Would we describe him as like guyless? Is that the word?

38:03Rashida Jones:Yeah, I think that's a good way to do it. Yeah. I know that word. That's a really good, by the way, of course you do.

38:10Adam Scott:Fucking great word.

38:11Rashida Jones:You know, it's a fucking great word.

38:12Aziz Ansari:Fucking great word.

38:13Rashida Jones:God damn.

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40:05Adam Scott:We meet on the set of Parks and Rec. And for people that don't know, like, you had a crazy week when you got hired. You got, like, three jobs that same week. What happened that week you were hired on Parks?

40:17Kathryn Hahn:So I basically, I was, like, trying to get a part in Funny People. The Judd Apatow movie with Seth Rogen and Adam Sandler. and I went through kind of this whole vetting process in New York and then enough where Allison Jones who cast that movie and Parks and Rec was called me and was like all right like you made it to the chemistry read stage so you have to come out to LA and read with Seth and see if you get the part basically um and so but I didn't really have an agent or anything and I kind of had to like pay my way you know to go out there so it was like a little bit janky but I got myself out there to do that.

40:59Kathryn Hahn:And then while I was out in LA for that week to do the funny people thing, Allison was like, how would I send you on some other things? Like, how do you feel about that? And so, yeah. So one of them was, she wanted me to go meet Mike Schur and Greg Daniels, who at the time were shooting on The Office and they were shooting, they were on the set of the office. So she sent me to the set of the office. And, um, and I, and I didn't even, I guess at that time I didn't realize, like, I didn't think like, oh, I could, these meetings will get me a job. I didn't understand.

41:33Adam Scott:I mean, I think it's one of the things about being young that's kind of nice is you're not really aware what you're actually, like, what's at stake.

41:39Kathryn Hahn:No, definitely not that. I mean, if it was an audition, obviously I know like, all right, I'm going to get the part or not, but like general meetings, I didn't really get the vibe of that. How old were you then? I was 24, 23, 23 maybe. But so then I went to the set of The Office and I was so starstruck. I see in my horse eye BJ Novak and Mindy Kaling walk by and I was like, oh my God. I was like, they're in the show or whatever. And Mike Schur is like, hello. And he's like at his desk like, and I'm like, what? And then I just met him for like, he describes it. He really embellishes this story, I think.

42:21Kathryn Hahn:He loves this story. He loves it. But he's like, and then I met the weirdest person later.

42:26Aziz Ansari:There's no bigger fan of Aubrey Plaza than Mike Scher.

42:28Kathryn Hahn:Yeah, right.

42:30Aziz Ansari:He loves it, though. Because I think like, I mean, it just speaks to, honestly, the fact that you've always been yourself, confidently yourself.

42:42Adam Scott:and you don't have a vibe of like, you are the opposite of a pick me, as the kids would say. Yeah. You do not have that vibe. No. And that draws people in. And I think he was like, who is this person? Yeah. Who seems mad at me while I try to give her a job? Yeah.

42:59Kathryn Hahn:Literally. And why are you wearing jean shorts in a general meeting? Like ripped jean shorts. And you're like, I didn't know what this was. No. And then I got a phone call and they were like, you're on a TV show. I'm like, what? No. But then. Which one? I know. You're like, the office? Yeah. I literally probably said that. I didn't know what was going on. And then they were like, actually, you got the part, but actually, you have to audition to play yourself.

43:27Adam Scott:You don't have to name names, but I wonder who else was up to play you. I don't think that anyone.

43:32Kathryn Hahn:Oh, right. It was just one person. I think they just made me do it, like, for the network or something. I think I found out later. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was probably like, you know. Yeah.

43:42Adam Scott:It was you, Sharon Stone, and Gina Gershon.

43:44Aziz Ansari:Yeah. So you get the part. We're on the set. And then, like, I mean, we could do a whole—obviously, we could do a whole episode about our experiences there. And there are so—like, I mean, I don't—the best thing about our relationship, I feel like, is I don't—like, a lot of, I think, long-lasting relationships is you don't always, like, remember how you met. Like, I just remember, like, just—I just have this vision of you being next to me on the set of that show. And me being, like, welcome.

44:18Adam Scott:Like, you know, Leslie was supposed to be, like, welcoming April. And April was supposed to be, like, what am I doing here? And Amy was welcoming Aubrey. And Aubrey was, like, what am I doing here?

44:29Kathryn Hahn:Truly, yeah. I mean, I remember when we first met. And I think I told you this story. It was the promos that we shot.

44:38Aziz Ansari:That's right.

44:39Kathryn Hahn:And which was weird because we hadn't shot the show yet. And the rest of the cast hadn't even been cast yet. I think at that point it was just like Aziz, me, you. Yeah. Maybe another Rashida.

44:53Adam Scott:Yeah. I don't think we had Nick yet.

44:55Kathryn Hahn:I don't think so. But they had me and I was there, like physically there. So they shot this promo of us on a swing set. And that's when I met you like officially for the first time. And I think I was literally on a swing like a child. And I was like, just don't make any sudden movements. Except swinging. Except swinging. And then you, which is kind of good because swinging is really good somatically for me. Like I liked, but then yeah, you came over and we were both just swinging like little babies. That's how we met on a swing. We met on a playground.

45:30Adam Scott:which is kind of nice really nice and it feels like the show was that like it was it felt like a true like play ground space it really was like we I mean I loved and love working with you I love playing with you I love acting with you I love you as an actor I love you as a person I love your acting plaza you know how good I think you are I love playing with you and I feel like our dynamic well like the arc of of um in many ways like april had the biggest growth in the show she goes from truly not wanting to be where she is to like you know ending the show like with some kind of purpose and a love in her life and like some also like a she kind of stands up for what she doesn't want to do which is a big part of your 20s like but um when you started that character when you started her did you have any idea where you thought it would go and did you

46:30Kathryn Hahn:have any you know did you did you know yeah no I just no I think I just once I realized like oh what's so fun about this character is that like it's a game of not showing anyone that I really care yes and like once I locked into that it was real like it felt like there was no limit to like the growth or like what could happen because if you hint that there's something else going on it's like you can kind of play with that and also in different ways with every different character so I feel like maybe on an unconscious level but I felt like oh there's so much to play with even though it feels really subtle and simple.

47:18Adam Scott:Yeah, that was her secret is she cared, but she pretended she didn't. And so when it would pop out, it was so satisfying. Yeah. It was so funny and good. And the ways in which she tried to keep those things hidden were so funny.

47:31Kathryn Hahn:Yeah. And then I think just the Andy April thing was such an organic, like I had no idea that was going to become a thing until that one episode.

47:42Adam Scott:So let's talk about that. So Andy played by Chris Pratt and you, April and Andy, had an episode where a bunch of us were off like doing the, like a harvest. We're at the Harvest Festival. We're at some festival.

47:56Aziz Ansari:I don't know where you guys were. We were doing something together. Yeah.

47:59Kathryn Hahn:Or you were in like camping or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was the camping episode. I don't know.

48:04Aziz Ansari:And so they put you guys in the office and just said like, let's see what happens to these two characters when they hang out.

48:09Kathryn Hahn:Yeah.

48:09Adam Scott:And basically the chemistry that those characters had was the building block for why they eventually became like the real romantic love story of the show other than Leslie and Anne.

48:20Kathryn Hahn:Yeah. Because Anne doesn't deserve. Don't talk about Anne. Sorry.

48:27Adam Scott:But what do you remember of that day?

48:30Kathryn Hahn:I have a bit. Well, Greg Daniels directed the episode, which I will always remember because he was so delighted. Like he had such a like little kid energy and he was so, he just was like very willing to like, let's just try things. And we had a whole day where we were just playing. It was like kind of like what you said, like the office, like the bull room or bullpen. Yeah, bullpen. The bullpen. The bull room. The bullpen like became a playground. And I just remember I have an image of like us sitting under the table. We were like under that main table for a while. Like I don't even know what we were doing down there.

49:07Kathryn Hahn:Mm-hmm. Um, but we were under there and I just remember, I don't know. It just felt, it was so fun. It just felt like, I remember before then there was, I think it was like the finale of the, maybe the first season or I don't remember what season, but there was a very subtle moment where we're all in a group, we're in a circle and, um, Andy's like saying something about his band or he's like something about like, I think like this band name is cool or whatever and everyone else was like no and april and i was just like i like it and it was like an improvised thing but i do you remember that where i remember being like and then i remember like got knocking on mike schur's like door and being like listen i was like april loves andy and april thinks andy's cool because he's so not cool that he's cool do you understand and mike was like get out of here and i was like you i was like you better listen to me um wow you did you knocked on his door it was like I mean yeah it was more like just a little conversation that was

50:10Adam Scott:it was like a it was like a layer to that character because you become his advocate like and that's the part of April that like is like another interesting layer is like again she acts like nothing matters and she's you know completely disaffected but she's actually very fiercely loyal yeah and very and like sticks up for people she believes in which I think is a character character trait of you too Plasie Like you're very, you're a very loyal friend.

50:37Kathryn Hahn:Yeah.

50:38Adam Scott:You're a really, really protective friend. And you really stick up for people who you love. And that side of it was so great because then we got to see her like manage him, care about the band, see potential for him that he didn't see in himself. Mm-hmm. And he was just like, I can't believe how lucky I am.

51:01Aziz Ansari:Yeah. And I remember when the writers had you guys get married, we were all like, what? I know. That was insane. That was, what do you remember of that day shooting it?

51:09Kathryn Hahn:We, there was a lot of crying. You cried. I mean, I love a wedding. You cried. I remember you like cried in the kitchen and then you were like crying like off camera and I was like, stop.

51:20Aziz Ansari:I didn't cry that much.

51:20Kathryn Hahn:Yes, you did. You like literally cried all day. It was so weird.

51:24Aziz Ansari:I was so happy you were in love. You were like crying all day.

51:27Kathryn Hahn:There was like, I was like. I was not crying all day. Yeah, you were. I was like, we're not even, the camera, I was like, we're in my trailer. Like, why are you doing this? and you were like how do you feel I'm like oh my god no I didn't I'm ordering a salad for lunch like this is my job I was crying

51:40Aziz Ansari:because you were crying so hard and I was worried that we weren't going to get the shot I was crying because I was sad at how much you were crying I don't think so I think that you

51:48Kathryn Hahn:thought it was real

51:49Aziz Ansari:and yeah I assumed it was legally binding yeah but it was so good and the and the vows were so funny yeah and the wedding was so stupid it was so stupid okay I mean And I guess like when do you have you rewatched Parks and Rec?

52:07Kathryn Hahn:Nope. What?

52:09Aziz Ansari:I'm finding this out. OK.

52:10Kathryn Hahn:I wouldn't even know how.

52:13Aziz Ansari:Shut up. OK. OK. You ask me how. You've never watched the big giant screen that you watch your movies on. How does it work? Go blue, blue, blue. These days I wouldn't. Go to. Go to. Go to what? Type in where the search. How? Someone tell me. Peacock.

52:34Kathryn Hahn:No.

52:34Aziz Ansari:Yes. Yes. Go there or go to iTunes.

52:39Kathryn Hahn:I wish I knew how.

52:40Aziz Ansari:Just pick up your controller and just save perks and rec into it.

52:44Kathryn Hahn:And it'll come up. Okay. It's probably not the right one.

52:47Aziz Ansari:Go to your DVDs. You love your DVDs.

52:50Kathryn Hahn:I wish I had one right now.

52:52Aziz Ansari:But so you've never rewatched it? No. I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

52:57Kathryn Hahn:If it comes on in a hotel room, I literally throw something. I throw it.

53:03Aziz Ansari:Adam says watching the show makes him sad. Nick has told me he has not rewatched it.

53:09Kathryn Hahn:Liar. He jerks off to it every night. You know he sits there and like touches himself.

53:18Aziz Ansari:You're so right. He's got it on right now. Nick, Nick. That's right, Tammy. You're right. He does watch it for Tammy. I mean, his real wife, Megan Mullally. They get off on that. They watch it together. You're so right. They watch it together. They're sick. And then they just slap each other in the face. They're disgusting. They're totally so disgusting. Nick, I know you're listening. You're not fooling anybody. Two more things about Parks.

53:42Adam Scott:We had so many fun guest stars come in, and you connected with some of them in interesting ways.

53:49Kathryn Hahn:I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember when Chris Bosh was on the show, the basketball player? Chris Bosh he was a Miami Heat player

53:58Aziz Ansari:oh yes and he was

54:00Kathryn Hahn:was he in like remember we had like had like different basketball like Roy yeah we had Roy yes

54:06Aziz Ansari:yeah Chris Bosh yes Chris Bosh he was with like Aziz and was he like John Ralphio yeah Entertainment 720 yeah but like

54:14Kathryn Hahn:I don't know if you know this story it was a fairly quick story but it was so stupid but I was a really big Chris Bosh fan so like I was like oh my god like I can't believe he's coming like this is insane I was like I want to play a prank on him do you know this? no and so he had to go through hair and makeup but you know he I think had very little hair and you know whatever didn't need makeup because he's a guy or whatever but you know how they always put them through the works anyway so I was like I'm going to pretend to be the hairstylist and I think it was Terry maybe was in there and you know how she had those glasses or whatever so I was like Terry give me your glasses or I can't remember whatever and I'm thinking like this is going to be hilarious because it's going to be me.

54:56Kathryn Hahn:And he'll be like, ha, ha, ha, it's you. So I like pretend to be Terry. I'm like at her station. And then he goes through like makeup first. And they're like, you look good, you know, a little powder and you're good. And then he like went and he was like, yeah, yeah, thanks a lot. And then he sat down in my chair and I was like, well. And I looked at him and I was like, what are we going to do today? And I was like doing like a dumb thing. And he didn't make any eye contact with me. he was just looking down and he was so sweet but he didn't make eye contact he was just like yeah whatever you think

55:29Aziz Ansari:oh no and you were like and I was like

55:31Kathryn Hahn:well I think that you're looking pretty good sir and he'd be like yeah so I'm good alright and I'd be like well you're not that good and then I was like I just kept it going and someone videotaped it and it was so awkward didn't recognize me at all didn't know who I was don't think he ever knew who I was not once Chris Bosh isn't going to be watching the show before he comes and does it. He didn't know who I was. He thought I was, uh... He thought you were a hair person. And, like, the PAs are like, we really need him on set. I'm like, well, he's almost done in my department of hair. And then, basically, it just died.

56:09Aziz Ansari:And he never, you never... Nope. Well, Chris is probably listening, so now you know. Never not once. Did you even work with him on set that day?

56:17Kathryn Hahn:Nope. Never saw him again. Literally never saw him again. Ever in my life.

56:22Aubrey Plaza:every single day someone tells me parks got them through the pandemic. And I heard you mention it on a previous episode.

56:30Adam Scott:Every single day people say, I watched it during COVID. I watch it with my kid. My kid's going through a hard time. I like to watch it at night because I get, I have a lot of anxiety. Like I cannot believe the way that that show continues to be a medicine for people.

56:49Aubrey Plaza:It's awesome. nice. Awesome. Isn't that nice?

56:51Adam Scott:And Ben and Leslie. I know.

56:53Aubrey Plaza:I know. We just, do you remember we were texting just a couple months ago and just kind of commented on how nice they are?

57:02Aziz Ansari:They're so nice. They're so much nicer than us.

57:05Aubrey Plaza:So much nicer.

57:06Aziz Ansari:And they're so nice to each other. I know. And every, every woman deserves a Ben. Every woman deserves a partner like Ben who roots for you and like looks at you and is just like, that's my gal. Like everyone deserves that kind of relationship. But also Leslie from the word go loved Ben.

57:29Aubrey Plaza:Oh, beyond. Like now looking back, it's like they were just in love with each other. I know. Immediately.

57:36Aziz Ansari:And their arc was such so juicy. I know. Mike and the writers, because they meet and they're just like, well, what's your deal?

57:44Aubrey Plaza:Oh yeah. It was like. Hot. And then they like each other, but then they can't.

57:49Aziz Ansari:They can't be together. Yeah, that was great.

57:51Aubrey Plaza:They can't be together, which is like, really?

57:53Aziz Ansari:I mean, they probably could have been together. I know, it didn't matter, but. And then they had to break down.

57:57Aubrey Plaza:And Mike was like, this is totally fake and whatever, but we just need to have Rob care about you two being together. And it worked, and it was like, made it even hotter.

58:06Aziz Ansari:It was, and then Ben was like, I want you. Ben kept putting Leslie's, you know what it is? they kept putting each other's needs over their own. They cared about what the other one needed and they respected each other.

58:19Adam Scott:Like they really liked what the other one did. And it was the best thing about that relationship is how, you know, with the exception of Anne, who is Leslie's number one. Of course, I've accepted that. Yeah, is the way that they just rooted for each other.

58:39Aubrey Plaza:Yes.

58:40Adam Scott:They really rooted for each other.

58:41Aubrey Plaza:I haven't seen a ton of, it makes me sad to watch the show because I miss it.

58:47Aziz Ansari:I've heard you say that. Yeah. Why does it make you sad?

58:49Aubrey Plaza:Because I miss it. Like you were saying, we really appreciated being there every day. And it was so fun. And also just sort of walking in that building and then suddenly you're there and the hallways.

59:04Adam Scott:Yeah.

59:04Aubrey Plaza:It was so fun. And the people just loved everybody.

59:08Adam Scott:I think one of the things that was so fun about what we got to do is the camera helped us, at least it helped me, have my feelings about, you know, I tell people like, of course you, of course we love Ben. We got to, like, Ben, we watched Ben watch Leslie, and we love Leslie. So, like, when people love Leslie, we love them. And we got to watch Ben love her because the camera, like, we got to do so much indirect stuff. Like, we didn't have to face-to-face all the time. We had feelings, our characters had feelings for each other because of the camera.

59:47Aubrey Plaza:That's right.

59:48Adam Scott:And even though, I mean, it's such a beautiful genre, that mockumentary, because it allows you to just even create space and depth in the shot. People are just not in the same room.

1:00:00Aubrey Plaza:That's right. And like, I remember we always used to say we loved it when there were spy shots through like blinds because it made our acting better. Do you remember that? Yes. Do you also remember this thing we used to do where sometimes we would be doing a scene and we'd be like, okay, I can't, I'm not someone who can predict. the future 100%. But I will say, it was like a couple times a season, I will say, I can say with 100 % certainty that neither of us will ever win an award for acting for this scene. You would say it sometimes and then sometimes

1:00:39Aziz Ansari:I'd be like, you know what, let's just, I mean, and also on the other side, I would sometimes say, you know, and I said this on the podcast, like I would say, Adam, you're acting is so good you'd be like shut up we're in the middle of the scene like because it was like oh my god um i mean but oh yeah i mean that's what i love about working with you and i just feel like

1:01:00Adam Scott:before we end like i just want to feed our fans a little bit more which is what um what do you

1:01:07Aubrey Plaza:think was the most romantic scene between ben and leslie oh man it's so sweet i know but what's the

1:01:15Aziz Ansari:The most romantic? I think, I think, well, there are a couple of nominees.

1:01:24Adam Scott:Okay.

1:01:24Aubrey Plaza:But I think, I think maybe Smallest Park.

1:01:28Aziz Ansari:Ugh.

1:01:30Aubrey Plaza:Because I remember -

1:01:30Aziz Ansari:I just heard a little groan. I hope it's a good groan.

1:01:33Aubrey Plaza:Someone just being like, ugh.

1:01:37Adam Scott:I love Smallest Park.

1:01:38Aubrey Plaza:Me too.

1:01:39Adam Scott:Nicole Hall of Center, the great Nicole Hall of Center directed that.

1:01:42Aubrey Plaza:And Chelsea wrote that one?

1:01:42Adam Scott:Chelsea Peretti wrote that episode.

1:01:45Aubrey Plaza:And I remember really like feeling connected, shooting that and just being like, this is kind of feeling like how special it was making the show. And that was, yeah, that was, but I don't know. What do you think?

1:02:04Adam Scott:Well, I have a lot. I mean, I feel like that was such a big one. I feel like some of the, I have such a affinity for the beginning, beginnings parts of Ben and Leslie, because I do think it also just reminded me of like, we were, you know, the show was deciding that they were going to love each other too. Yeah, yeah. And I really love this tiny moment when they realize they have, they like the same spot, when they like to sit under the sunflower mural.

1:02:36Aubrey Plaza:Well.

1:02:36Adam Scott:I love that moment. When I ask you if you know where that mural is and your response, it's a rewindable moment. I love that moment. Between both of us because, and of course, Parks then pays it off years later.

1:02:53Aubrey Plaza:Years later.

1:02:54Adam Scott:By sitting underneath it.

1:02:56Aubrey Plaza:Yeah.

1:02:57Adam Scott:I also, you know, when we shot Ben and Leslie's wedding, it was so fun. It was like we were all just sitting there all day goofing around. And it was so fun.

1:03:07Aubrey Plaza:I think we had real champagne too, maybe.

1:03:10Adam Scott:We probably did.

1:03:11Aubrey Plaza:Yeah.

1:03:11Adam Scott:We probably did. And then that probably became a problem later in the day.

1:03:15Aubrey Plaza:Yeah, probably. Champagne, not something to have when you have like a 10-hour workday ahead of you. Are you asked all the time if there'll be more parks or a reboot or something? I always feel like it's done, like it was perfectly done. Like how do you do that?

1:03:35Adam Scott:Maybe they should do like Muppet Babies. They should do like parks and rec babies. That's right. Like everyone has babies.

1:03:40Aubrey Plaza:All of us has babies. Like that Instagram thing where everyone's AI babies.

1:03:45Adam Scott:They should do AI babies.

1:03:47Aubrey Plaza:But like a whole series of all of us just in a crib together.

1:03:51Adam Scott:Yeah. But they should do it like present day where like the politics are really dark and mean. And so it should be like tiny babies fighting each other.

1:04:00Aubrey Plaza:They hate each other. It's like apocalyptic political babies.

1:04:05Aziz Ansari:And they're all like, oh no. I hate you so much. I hate you so much. Yay. I mean.

1:04:12Aubrey Plaza:Yay. I hate you. Because we made the show in an era where public service was encouraged and valued.

1:04:20Adam Scott:Right.

1:04:20Aubrey Plaza:And funded.

1:04:22Adam Scott:Yes.

1:04:22Aubrey Plaza:It was, or I mean, you know, I'm sure it wasn't as funded as much as it should have been, but it was funded at least.

1:04:30Adam Scott:It's an entirely different tone to American life. You know when you have that feeling sometimes like you wish you could go back to high school and enjoy it?

1:04:38Aubrey Plaza:Right.

1:04:38Adam Scott:That's how it felt. Like we actually got to do it in real time.

1:04:41Aubrey Plaza:Yeah. Because it was genuinely goofy and funny.

1:04:45Adam Scott:Yeah.

1:04:46Aubrey Plaza:Like the best jokes.

1:04:48Adam Scott:What is one of your favorite jokes? What is one of the favorite funny scenes you got to do? So many.

1:04:54Aubrey Plaza:So many. I mean, I always think of you guys on the ice at the ice skating rink with Gloria Estefan. Yeah. I mean, that is, I remember at the table read, that was, we couldn't stop laughing because it was so funny.

1:05:09Adam Scott:Yeah, Mike Scully wrote that episode.

1:05:11Aubrey Plaza:Oh, Mike Scully's the best.

1:05:12Adam Scott:And we got to walk across that ice. And I remember just thinking, this is so fun. It looked so fun.

1:05:21Aubrey Plaza:I wasn't even in that scene.

1:05:22Aziz Ansari:Yeah, that's right. Yeah. That's right. Sorry, we should probably just Photoshop you.

1:05:26Aubrey Plaza:We should put me in that scene. That's why I brought it up. I feel like it would, I deserve it.

1:05:33Aziz Ansari:Okay, you guys ready to watch it? Yeah. Okay, here we go. Yes.

1:05:37Aubrey Plaza:Really exciting. Amy, are you going to play it for your... Oh!

1:05:44Aziz Ansari:I'm supposed to play it! I'm supposed to play it! Here we go!

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