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27:12Like people really feel like, hey, they share, like, look, you always know from Bostonians how they feel. They tell you to your face. You're good. You're bad. I like you. I don't like you. They do, but they don't. I want to elaborate on that, but continue. Do you think I'm wrong that they're more passive-aggressive? No, no. They'll tell you how they feel about you. Right. They'll never tell you how they feel. Oh, no. Feelings? And that, like, so that's why recently going home has been way better. Yeah. Because my brothers are all hitting that, like, late 40s, approaching the half century now. Yeah.

27:46And we all have wisdom of, like, man, it's kind of a shitty mindset if somebody's like, hey, how's life? And you're like, ah, it's taking forever. Like that. Yeah. But that's also West Newberry. Totally. And man, as beautiful as the landscape is, sometimes there's a lot more anchors than sails over there. Yeah. You know, and I love the pride. You're right. Like when someone from a community makes it, the community has made it. That's right. I like that. That's right. Because that's a win for everybody. Hopefully it gets everybody's spirits. Yeah. And I don't mind that. it's just sometimes hard to get anything real out of anybody.

28:27Oh, babe, the idea of figuring out your feelings and saying them in real time, that was not what we grew up with. Yeah. I mean, I still kind of can't believe sometimes when people are able to locate their feeling and then say it. It's like, how did you do that? Because we just, it's a skill. It's a skill to figure out what you're actually feeling. Yeah. Feel it and then express it. That's like a lifetime of work. and when you're around culturally this thing and this feeling of just like to your point there's a lot of like a lot of comedy a lot of self-deprecation a lot of self-deprecation and a lot of a lot of doom and gloom and pessimism a lot of pessimism and a lot of action over words right so someone's not going to say necessarily say like i love you but they're going to like fix your tire like the mass hole yeah the fuck you broken down for ah do you fucking idiot let me fix your tire All right, get the fuck out of here.

29:19Fuck off. Yeah. That's literally their way of saying like, oh man. Yeah. Tough day, right? Yeah. Let me help you out here. Right. I hope everything goes better for you. But it's not that. No, it's not that. Yeah. No, no. It's an asshole. He can't even fucking roof a house. I'll get up and fucking roof it in two hours. You told me a story though about, and I want to get to wrestling because I have so many questions about it. And as a person who, the Bostonian in me had an early experience with it. But it's changed so much. We've kind of lived in the same world, though. I know. Okay. Your mom, you bought her a house.

29:57My mom earned a castle. But that story is such a good story. So we settled on a house. Okay. Just tell a little bit of that story how it went, if you don't mind. There's never any land for sale in West Newberry. Right. And there came a large plot for sale in the height of development. and it was heavily overpriced. I don't know if anyone was following the financial ticker, but something happened in 2008. And that same person - Everybody made good decisions. Well, the culmination of all those good decisions happened and they stopped pouring the champagne. Yeah. The person who was selling the property came back and said, hey, we just want to recoup our engineering costs.

30:39Would you still be interested? So a value opportunity came up of like, I don't need this. but I have an idea of what I can do with it. And my brother, Dan just so happened to be in really good graces and working for a contractor at the time. And he's one of the most respected individuals in like our small building community met with him. And I kind of specced out like, what would this idea take in real time? He's like, less than the cost of what they offered you to buy the place for. I'm like, but you can do all this. He's like, I can. It's like, I'd like you to put your name on this place and make it something you're proud of.

31:15He's like, I still can do that. Okay, do it. And a secret meeting like this. Oh, my God. Everyone wearing suits. A lot of smoke. Everybody's scotch. It was 8 a.m. It was like, Dan, we're doing this. Don't fucking say a word. The story is I'm moving back home. So building a house takes a long time. And it's a beautiful plot on the hill where, like, from three towns over, you can see what's going on. So now we got a clear land and we're digging trenches and we're building this nice, beautiful New England home that exposes itself to the river. It's got viewpoints. It's got this crazy copper dome and all this stuff.

31:55Everything is settled for like creatively. Everything's on the first floor and there are multiple floors, but everything you need to get in and out of the access is on the first floor. And everybody's watching the project and everybody's like, when are you coming home? And everyone, you know, in the family is kind of excited. And meanwhile, I'm still in my residence, happy in Florida. So it finally gets done two years later. And it's around Thanksgiving, which is a great time in New England because everyone like comes home for Thanksgiving. And they go to the bars for Thanksgiving and the Thanksgiving football game.

32:25My mom's birthday is close to Thanksgiving. So we throw a Thanksgiving thing. And it's not for my mom's birthday. Everybody comes over because we're keying the door to the house for the first time. Play still smells new. and taking everybody for a tour. And I'm bragging about like, ah, this is this and this is this thing. And I built a bar over the garage because I had one space for me. My mom doesn't like that, but she wanted to come see the whole house. And when everybody gets in the bar room, I give my mom a birthday present. And it's the key to the house. And she like lost it. Like she absolutely, she's like, I can't, I can't.

33:02I'm like, no, it's already taken care of. Movers are coming tomorrow. My mom was living in the third floor of like a triple family in an attic in 300 square feet with her stuff packed in. And she was just by herself packed in and she was content and happy. That's who my mom is. She's a lunch pail blue. Like she'd go to work. She wouldn't accept it. So then I had to negotiate. I had to be a diplomat of like, you don't understand. There'll be trucks there tomorrow. Everyone's on board. We're going to move your stuff over. I'll tell you what, it's already here. This isn't for me. Could you please at least give it a try so all this doesn't go to waste?

33:40Well, if it's going to go to waste. And that was like 15 years ago, and she's been there ever since. And now it's her place. And we get together there on holidays, and it's her place. And that's what a son should do for his mother. Well, again, I... Buy your mother a house. She earned it. She absolutely earned it. It's such a beautiful story to John, because you also included everybody in that surprise, you know, like in and you. I just think I don't I just I just think it's it's so indicative of how you're always kind of thinking about how can I how can I extend my gratitude? You're such a generous, generous person.

34:24And we'll talk about that. But I'm after this. My parents are going to call me and say, why haven't you bought me a house? A hundred percent. Bill and Eileen are going to be like, we're against the wall. We have no space. We heard John on the podcast and we're wondering why you haven't built us a house.

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35:18You know, my dad used to take me to wrestling in the 80s. You're kidding. No, so we used to see Hulk Hogan. Where? Sergeant. I know you're going to ask me this. I forget. Maybe like the Worcester Centrum. Or as we would say, Worcester. The Worcester Central. So it was Hulk Hogan, Sergeant Slaughter, the Iron Sheik. Yeah. High 80s, you know, very. So here's the cool thing. There were a lot more performers on that card, but you remember like Americana, patriotism. Totally. It was USA all the way. Xenophobic, all that. But that was. Totally. That was the time. And I remember watching it and being like, you know, in retrospect now, it was kind of like the closest we could get to Las Vegas or something.

36:07Like it was like it was like how it felt like a like a high level, high energy performance. That's pretty. That's on the bullseye. Yeah. With audiences that were really, really invested. Yeah. And can you explain wrestling to me feels like a combination of. dance, choreography, writing, and story, and like magic that you will never know the secrets to. I'll take that. Okay. Is that fair? I think that's very fair. So when you are performing and you are in that arena and the audience gets to interact with you and you are, how much have you prepared for that day? Because the difference is like any other performance there is such skill needed for the physical i mean you like search of soleil doesn't wing it no but you there is a there's an amount of improv in wrestling that i noticed when i would see it and also in and watching it now that is like i can't always tell how much is prepared how much is actually prepared and rehearsed it depends it completely depends on the performance Okay.

37:26Yeah, it completely does. Some like to do that, some don't. Some. What do you like to do? I like to be an improvisational performer. Right. But that is not, I don't go out and wing it. Right. I prepare my ass off. Right. So I start with the creative part. What is the story? Yeah. So if we're fighting over the fact that you stole 10 grand from me. Right. Everything I do is going to relate back to your theft. and everything you do is going to defend that you never took it. And the thing that WWE is different than SNL, that is different than sketch, the audience is the act. Not observing the act.

38:08The audience is the act. So as a performer, the way I approach it is, okay, I have 25 minutes, we have a match together. And we've been telling the story of, you've stolen something from me. $10 ,000. for three weeks. This is a lot of money. You needed it for your... I was going to pay off my mom's house. Pay off your mom's house. And you took that away from me. And now she can't get in. And now she's going to be evicted. Yep. So just by... And what are you going to do about it? You've kicked my mom out of her house. Yeah. Oh, that's so good. You did that. Yeah. And I almost... This was the last payment.

38:41Yeah. You know, I've... And I got the keys and I'm just swinging them right in front of you. Yeah. So now you, you being a creative mind, we could have that wrestling match right now. Right. Give us 25 minutes. I'll take 35. Okay. I love that. And then you're right. So the, all the moves are kind of connected to that, right? Like everything goes back to that theme. And here's where it gets very interesting. If the story dictates in this match, it dictates you've stolen something from me. We're going to ring the bell. I'm going to show that I'm more skilled and I've earned this, the right to make this payment.

39:15You're going to cheat just like you stole and be like, no, I'm better. Right. And then And there's going to come a point in the story where the crowd is like, would you do something? It's the typical Hulk up. Yeah. It's called the comeback. So what I do is we have our why. What we need to really rehearse is from the comeback to the finish. Okay. And that's usually. Oh, I see what you mean. That's usually the last. We need to rehearse the physical part of that. The third act. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The third act needs to be ad nauseum. You need to have it. Right. Because you're doing dangerous things.

39:51You are doing dangerous things, but there's a fundamental trust between performers that you know X skill, I know X skill. And the conversation we can have before is, do you do anything specific that's outside of the fundamentals that I should know about? Right. And the person who leads gets all that information and stores all these things in their card catalog. The third act needs to be prepared because it can also change. Right. Basically, you use the first two acts to go out and improvise. Right. And if we get out there in the Worcester Center, which I believe to be a rowdy crowd, but slightly different than Boston and Hartford, but they change.

40:27And they're like, we're for you. Right. We don't want that mom to have her house. But keep in mind, we need to gear for that moment where they're like, John, do something. Right. So immediately, a piece of line that I would throw in the water is punch me in the face. And they might cheer. You would say that to me? Punch me in the face? I would say immediately. Punch whatever we had planned. If we talked about something. And they came out and we're like, yeah, Amy. I'm like, punch me in the face now. Or like, I'll go out. Because you want to make sure. I will go out and turn my shoulder to the crowd as if I'm confused.

41:00And when I come back, hit me in the face. Bam. So we did two things there. You threw the first punch, which is not fair. It's not virtuous. And you did it when I wasn't looking. Right. So it's these subconscious things of like, they're for Amy, but this is my mom. I'm like, bam. Oh, geez. Get on me. Come here. And then I would have you just beat the tar on me. And they might like that. And then I would just have you lean into that. Yeah. Where it becomes like, oh, man. It's like watching a bad fight. And then I would just listen to be like, well, come on. Do something. Do something. Nah, screw you.

41:38Do something. Okay. Duck. Here we go. And then we go into it. Now we have the, now the audience is working with us rather than against us. But there have been instances where the people behind the curtain will tell the ref to tell you, like, switch the finish. So we've decided that the other person is going to win. So if you're super prepared, you can change things and change in real time. Now, keep in mind, as I'm saying, when I turn around, punch me in the face. I'm listening to the crowd. I'm hoping you're going to be there. I'm also listening to my ref. So sorry. That is, I thought that was real.

42:14No, it's fake. It's a real ruse. Anyway, I have the ref being like, you have 17 minutes left. You have 16 minutes left. So like it's all happening in real time. And there are coaches watching you from behind a curtain that will tell the ref what they think you should do. Right. Oh, you're getting notes. You're getting notes in real time. In real time. But that's why live TV is so thrilling. It's great. That's why I wanted to do it forever. And I just physically I can't do it anymore. But that's why when anyone says, like, what do you like more? Wrestling. Yeah. That's why I got run out of Hollywood the first time around.

42:51You talked about that. I love what you said, which is like. Look at what we just talked about. That's fucking great. Right. You can feel the excitement. The moment. The crowd. I want to be there now. The noise. And then when you get fluent at it. Yeah. When you're like, oh, I kind of understand this. I'll do this. And then the challenge becomes like, oh, man, the UK crowd is throwing a beach ball around. How do I work that into the act? Go out and get that thing and pop it. When you come back, I'm going to give you my finish. Real time. This stuff, I've had people get married. I've had people start fights in stands.

43:23And we work it all into the act. That's amazing. Just because you're prepared. It's the opposite of like doing stand-up and not wanting a heckler, basically. You want that feeling that people are listening and participating. Here's the thing. It's not that we want it. It's just it is. It is. In a stand-up, the kind of protocol is like, enjoy the comedy. Don't heckle. Yeah. Here, it's like you have paid your money to heckle. Yeah. And there's 12 ,000 of you. All right, good luck. And you can heckle en masse. Yeah. Chants start out that are too hot for TV, that Netflix is turning us off and turning us off.

44:01I was going to say, like, you— The audio goes out. Like, it's crazy. And you can't—the more you try to be like, calm down, everybody. Yeah, of course. You don't want to be the calm down character. You have to understand that you're working with them. That would be my character. They are part of the act. I would be like, you guys, calm down. Stop. I'd be like, guys, it's so loud. That would be my thing. Guys, it's so late. From Wilbur, Massachusetts, calm down, Amy. I'd be like, it's so late. It's so loud. I'd be like, why are we fighting? Why are we fighting? This is crazy. That would be my character.

44:32Do you hear that? Let's take a nap. Do you hear that off in the distance? It's the money printing machine. Take a nap. Take a nap. Take a nap. oh man calm down shirts we sell chamomile tea oh this is amazing that's actually great I can hear the money I can hear it I can actually I go shh guys and all of my holds all of my moves are like to just be like quiet just okay like and I just I snap and they go down just be quiet quiet just come on and then everybody brings their blankets in and they're like shh nobody calm down wait we sell big foam hands wait calm down Amy when the entire place is quiet CDA calm down Amy CDA it's instead of CBD oil it's CDA we'll get you that we'll get that brand partnership working this this is fucking genius we did this here we just did this here and here's what's also so crazy about the WWE you might see that character they'll be watching me like hmm yeah they're on to something hmm get the CBD go I love what you said in your transition to acting is that it was confusing to not have the show, you know, like the super long hours, lots of waiting around for your time.

45:48Different mindset. Totally. And you spoke about how in the beginning it was really confusing. As a young 20-something. Yeah. I wanted to be there and I want to go to the bar afterwards. Yeah, right. And then do it in the next town and in the next town. And get instant feedback. It's the best. Yeah. And I'm not saying like crushing it is awesome. It's the best when you bomb. Yeah. It's the best. Right. Because then you're like whizzing to be like, I got another performance in 24 hours. What do I do? Like, it's the best. Yeah. And you don't get feedback when you're shooting. I mean, you do from the director.

46:19It's different. It's a different mindset. Yeah. And it took me appreciation of the mindset to really apply. Yeah. And people like you to bet on me and know that like, oh man, I'm getting an opportunity here. What can I do? show up early and fucking be prepared. Yeah. Be ready to go. I mean, okay, so we worked together in a movie called Sisters. Me and Tina, the great Paula Pell. And it was so fun. Tons of comedians. Great cast. Great cast. It was so fun to work with you. And you and Paula Pell fell in love. You loved each other. And I mean, to me... We had a few conversations over wine. You and Paula had a few wine.

47:01What did you guys... Do you guys hung out and drank wine? A lot. I mean, And what's so great about Paula? What do you love about her? I like her perspective. I love her courage. Man, like I just like that energy. Like, again, I say anchors in sales. She's a sale. Yeah. You know, like always curious, always creative, off the wall. Yeah. I just know any idea is going to have like that whimsy, that magic in it. Yeah. And I want to be with those people. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Were you a big comedy fan growing up? Because you've done a lot. Oh, my God, yes. What were you watching? We were all watching SNL.

47:39What were you watching? At a young age, I was watching stuff I shouldn't be watching. Of course. So my dad was the only person, my only male in New England that didn't care for sports. Not kidding. Interesting. Like, we never grew up with the Red Sox, the Celts, because that stuff all happened when I got to junior high. Right. And I had to fall into peer group, so, like, I got to start caring about sports. Right. My dad liked old 80s titty comedies and pro wrestling. Like Benny Hill. He loves. So I'm watching like Benny Hill. My people don't understand how important Benny Hill was. I mean, it's, it's, and now you watch it now and you're like, Jesus Christ, this is a terrible show.

48:19Like Benny Hill is talking about predator. It just didn't age well for the time. But at the time I remember being a little kid being like, what is this? Yep. A lady standing behind a bunch of melons. Yep. And Benny Hill's like, hee hee hee like a cartoon character trying to grab it and the music and there's always a chase and there's always a chase and it was like what what is this like yeah and and so in our psyche Benny Hill yeah the chase with the music has become a meme totally you don't have to do the Benny Hill style but you do the chase the music and it's a meme yeah and did they watch like did they we watched like Kentucky Fried Movie yes Animal House Caddyshack yes anything Rodney did yeah Like, I mean, you name it.

49:02I mean, all those comedies. We talked about Mr. Mom. Like, it's just 80s comedies. Yes. My dad would literally fast forward through the romance of, like, the rom-coms. Gotta get to the jokes. But they were great. Yeah, but, dude, some of them, like, you go back and you're like, oh, my God, Porky's? Porky's was a huge, that was on heavy rotation. And when you were a young woman watching Porky's, it was not good. So, John, it really fucked. It really fucked with our heads. I get it. It did because it was like, what is going on? It's like, like there was so much like, you know, I remember watching Weird Science and being like, incredible movie.

49:44And then a couple of years later, I'm like, two teenage boys create a sex robot. It's Kelly LeBrock. And they're like, come sex robot, come meet our friends. And I'm like, that did, that does fuck you up. It does. Because we saw it. I'm sure this has happened where you look at an 80s movie. You're like, this is hilarious comedy. And then you play it and you're like, oops. There's a lot of that. But you have a real knack and love, I think, for comedy especially. But you do all different kinds of acting. What's your relationship to acting right now? You know, you're retired. I'm a retired physical performer.

50:24We'll see. No, no, no, no. Okay. So I have stated that speaking in absolutes is impossible. Yeah, exactly. I've also used the term, it would be financial suicide for someone to be like, here's what it's going to take. And I'd be like, you did it. I'm a liar. Financial suicide. You know that how Judge Judy negotiates her contracts? She slides over a number. That is so, she's such a G. She's such a G. And then she goes, and if you don't want me to do it? guess what guess what cares i got i'm good i got a uh i got a 315 it's 307 she's like she slides she slides and they look and then they go welcome back or whatever um but i'm never performing physically okay got it got it and there's there's multi-tears to that uh i i need to stop because physically i want to be i want to enjoy a long good life i don't want to have a bunch of crusty years and punishing my body the math isn't in my favor for the good years what is the part of your body that barks the most when it's low back but so so i'm a male or i'm a human at 50 that's everyone yeah aside from that i did really good that's great do you do like pilates and yoga and like stretchy stuff heavy stretchy stuff yeah and i hate it and i do it a lot all the time can you touch your toes i can fucking i can't touch my toes Stay in frame.

51:54The suit is tough. Oh my god, John is doing it. He's touching his toes. I actually can't bend farther than the suit. Whoa! That's really good, John. I can go hands flat on the floor. That's my stretch. Hands flat on the floor? That's my stretch every day in the shower. And if you walk in on me taking a shower, you'll see me in a different POV. You can do hands flat. Man, I was really... It's just all the funky bits. Spread open. That is it. Every morning, full spread. Start with that full spread. Man, I was really hoping that you would be not flexible. No, because I have to work on that now. You have to work at it.

52:30That's incredible. I want to move around. Yeah. So I can talk about it or do it. Okay. And it sucks and I hate it and I do it. Oh, God. And it's great. You're good at doing things you don't like to do. But I like to do them because I like what it yields. Yeah. And forced austerities are a luxury because life gives you stuff that you really don't want to do that you didn't get to choose. And a lot of times the choose, like, I want to do this. I want to be good at this. All right. It's going to be a lot of things that are going to be tough. Yeah. Okay. So I'll fucking stretch more. Jesus. You got to.

53:01I know. You got to. I mean, it's just, it's like a crusty rubber band. You got to make sure. Don't let it get too weird. Oh, God. Okay. So physically I'm good. So you're physically good and you're feeling good and your relationship to acting now feels like what? What have you learned about yourself as you've acted more and more? What have I learned? Yeah. Acting and wrestling are the same. The same. Interesting. I don't run the company, so I don't control who wins and loses. Right. I get a chance to make choices within my story, but I can't change the finish. I should be prepared. I should hit my time.

53:35I shouldn't ask for more than I'm given and I should be grateful for what I have. if you do good work and you are professional, it increases the math of people calling you back. Right. And also I got to say, John, you're such a softie. You were the, like, you're really, really, I talked about it earlier. You're such a generous person. You're the person that's given the most, um, you know, you've, you've fulfilled more make a wish wishes than any celebrity over 650 at this point. You do incredible amounts of charity work. I know that about you. Giving that amount of time to people is expensive.

54:07It's a lot of energy. And even that, sometimes I'm sure you walk away feeling like, I wish I could have given more. How do you kind of, when you approach people who are sick and ill, because a lot of people are very scared of reaching out when people are in a tough place. You know what I'm talking about? It's not easy to be around, especially young people who are having perhaps like, or perhaps close to the end of their lives. Remember your why. Why am I there? Am I there to be scared? Right. Am I there to be sad? No. I am there to be the hope. And that is my why. And now I'm retired. People like Cody, people like Ria, people like Roman.

54:55It's their time to be the hope. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Those experiences renew my faith in humanity. Yeah. They give me gratitude for life. Yeah. I'm so grateful for the people I've met. Yeah. Like, and man, when people are just raw, emotionally excited, you see it. It's real. You can't fake it. I like what I'm learning about you, John, is like you're chasing emotion. Like you're looking for it. You like want to have real connection. Don't we all? No. I disagree. Well, I mean, I guess. I mean, I guess we do. But yes, we do at the end. There is no 100 % certainty of anything. There might be a mathematical anomaly.

55:38I guess it's just that people don't make it a priority, right? Like they might want it, but it feels like you prioritize connection. That's what matters. I'm just saying like. I'm just trying to do me the best I can. You won't take a fucking compliment. I will say at this moment in life, loving connection is pretty important. I'm swinging them around in the ring, and I'm going to give you a compliment before the finish. Now, everybody calm down and get quiet so I can compliment you. And now take a nap. CDA, CDA. It's too late. Okay. And so the other thing is you brought up Cody. Yeah. So we do a thing on the podcast where we talk to someone who knows our guest.

56:20I did this for Idris. Oh, yeah, that's right. It's where I gave you the mythology behind that bottle of wine you've pounded during this show. Oh, my God. And forgot that I did your show. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, I remember you did it. What was the mythology? What is the... I told you the next time I see her, bring you a bottle of wine. Oh, I did forget that. I wish you had let me know you forgot that. That way I wouldn't have had to carry that in my bag. This is so fancy this morning. I can't wait to drink it. Okay, thank you for doing that for Idris. It's Idris. I know. He's my guy. And Cody, talk to us today.

56:56I'm so glad you talked to him. Cody Rhodes, first of all... Because I will say, not a lot of wrestlers on Good Hang. You're trying to have a diverse portfolio of people in the entertainment space. Not a lot of WWE superstars on Good Hang. Think I might be number uno. Yeah. Well, we've got two today. That's right. See, there we go. Chill out. We've reached our quota. I think this is a great day. It's a good start. You've increased your population by 100%. You're right. And I do want to talk to more wrestlers. You don't. That's why I started the podcast. You don't, but you will. Out of guilt. You'll be like, we got to, could somebody get the number of that guy?

57:34Because we'll have, that'll be crazy. But, you know, I love talking to Cody. And. That's good. Well, first of all, I found out that the term baby face, which. Yeah. Absolutely love. And. Heel too. Heel. Would I be considered a baby face? So this is another thing. It's kind of, it's kind of ambiguous. If you went out and tried to be liked, you would be a heel. Fuck. I think if you went out and you were yourself. Babyface? Born babyface. And then do women get different terms in wrestling? No, the terms are universal. Okay, love that. Okay. And it was really fun to talk about him noticing how much you not only care about your own work and pay attention to the good work of others, but that you're kind of constantly learning new things.

58:21I mean, you know Mandarin. A little bit. You know French, I hear? A little bit. Okay. Congrats. So that's like, you know, math. I know a little bit of math. I don't know all of math. Okay. I know. Could you speak, could you order in a restaurant in both those languages? Yes. Congrats. That's great. Well, Cody was like, what are you, Cody's question is such a brotherly question, which is like, what are you going to do with all this knowledge? He was like, write a book. And if you don't write a book, what's the point of it all? And then he was like, what can you not do well? But Cody was really funny.

59:01His question was really this search for knowledge and getting, like, you really want to know things. What do you, what do you, what's behind that search? What's behind, like, the drive for those things? Am I honoring life correctly? Yeah, but why do you worry that you're not? Because look how lucky I am. Yeah. Like, am I doing enough? Am I doing enough? If I'm not moving forward, I'm not honoring the luck. I talk about like earning the sunset. I'm big on like honoring the luck. This is not in my control. This is like the weird mystical piece of the universe from who I am when I was born, where I was born, the opportunities I've been had that are beyond my control.

59:43Just go like hell and try to honor the luck. It's what I do alone to focus, stay committed, do something hard, feel good about myself. Like it is mine. But when you go to my wrestling matches, you're going to be encouraged to just take a break and calm down and take a nap. You got it. You did it. You are. You want to talk about it. Because I do think productivity is a curse. You know, it can be a curse. We're eating money on the table. Okay, we're going to get a little quick lightning round. Here we go. What are you reading? Right now, Mania's Crisis and Crashes, 8th edition. What's that? It is a history of market manias, crashes, and bubbles.

1:00:27Uh-huh. Okay. Great. Because I just want to know about it. You want to know about it. Okay. It's a tough book to read. Yeah. The South City Crisis and the Tulip Mania bubble. And yes. Okay. Railroad fever in the 1800s. An album that you're into right now that you've been listening to. Old or new? I'm rocking to some cocktail jazz because I want to try to learn how to play it. But when I'm alone, blues. Like a John Lee Hooker, Howling Wolf, blues. Okay. Fun movie you've seen recently or like a comfort movie. Like one that's on that if you see it, you're just like, I want to watch it. Just watch the Lorne Michaels documentary.

1:01:04Oh, yeah. Loved it. Loved it. Like reminds me a lot of what we do. and man when I walked the hallowed halls of Saturday Night Live like as a single serving guest the amount of respect I have for everyone and then him seeing seeing that it was awesome it was awesome John the thing about wrestling you you know you've made it when everyone has an impression of you totally he is what a what a amazing person when I was wrestling in Canada Okay. Are you watching anything fun? We just got through four seasons. This is going to be taped, but we're taping it on Will Forte's birthday. Happy birthday, Will.

1:01:47Oh, my God. Happy birthday, Will. Happy birthday in hell, Will. That's Tina Fey's. Tina, the four seasons. Great second season. So we just got through the second season of that. Fantastic. Yeah. So that's that. And then you're in the new movie Little Brother with Eric Andre. Congratulations on that. And what was it like working on that and the experience of working on that? Eric is an eccentric physical comedian. He is awesome. I got to say, I've always been impressed by what he can do. Yeah. Give someone the chance to show what they can do and you set yourself up to be surprised. Yeah. He crushed.

1:02:22Yeah. Not only, I read the script and it came from him and I'm like, dude, this is your vehicle. I will gladly do this because you're going to shine. There's also parts in there that are really heartfelt. Uh-huh. And he crushed those as well. Yeah. And like, what a moment. I think it's going to be a great movie. It's going to be a great movie for people who see it on Netflix. I'm very happy to be a part of it. I got to do a comedy. Yeah. Where you know with comedies, you're like laughing all the time. Well, this is my last question, which is like what I know you love to laugh and you love comedy.

1:02:50What are you what's making you laugh right now? Like what do you. It could be anything. Yeah. Like is there a video, a scene from a what's something that you like. No, you never know. I think, OK, X makes me laugh. Yeah. I rule out everything else. A lot of it is me. Like the joke's on me. Uh-huh. Right. Being self, like, yeah. Allowing yourself to be a soundboard for humor not only, like, eases the tension. Yeah. You never know what it can lead to. Right. A lot of it is, like, the big bullseye and the fuchsia pinstripe. Right. So if you open that door, it's kind of cool. And then it gets, like, you don't want to be too crazy because sometimes ball busting can be bullying.

1:03:30Yeah. And you always want to, you know, cool that tea kettle. But a little bit of teasing can be a love language. I adore that like, hey, look at me. I'm such an idiot. Yeah. And then like, hey, let's talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, you're trying to get connection there. You're back to connection. Laughter helps connection, doesn't it? If we're laughing about something, we're talking about something. It's so true. So my folks are going to love little brother. They're going to laugh. They're going to wake up the next morning and be like, what's your favorite part? Yeah, yeah. Awesome. Well, Sina, I love.

1:03:56This is a good hang. It's such a good hang. I love seeing you. You're so fun to talk to and fun to work with. and such a considerate, nice person. Thanks for doing this pod. Thanks for being here. I probably will never wear a tie again for anybody, but you never know. You wear it well. Oh my God, thanks. Yeah, you look great. We literally just ran out and got it across the street. You look great. Thanks. And you just put this together. Like a lot of those just put together looks are really trying hard. Well, I realized halfway through, I was like, he's going to show up in a suit. I'm like, we got, we were like, we got to get our shit together.

1:04:30Let's go, we have six minutes. Paper splice. it looks great thank you i appreciate it so much for doing it thank you thank you so much john cena it was so fun having you here and i can't wait to take this tie off and get reg get back to my regular sticking it to the man but um no it was so fun talking to you and um such a pleasure always to hear your uh perspective and pov and for this polar plunge as we wrap up. You know, we talked, John and I talked a lot about comedies, 80s comedies, those like big, dumb, funny things that we grew up on. And speaking of big, dumb and funny, I just want to remind everybody that Wet Hot American Summer, a film I did 25 years ago, is celebrating its 25th year.

1:05:21And there's going to be a million different ways to go back and watch what is really genuinely a funny, dumb movie with a lot of cast members who are at the beginning of their careers. So check that out if you can and check out John Cena's new movie, Little Brother, and continue to support the arts and wrestling because if we learned one thing, they are the same thing. Goodbye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullin, and Alea Zanaris.

1:06:06For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss-Berman. Original music by Amy Miles.