Kenan Thompson

1 Sep 2026 · 1 h 8 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Kenan Thompson discusses his path to SNL, performance instincts and timing, early influences (especially Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor), learning to ice skate for Mighty Ducks, and how he and Amy Poehler (Good Hang host) connected through SNL. He also shares a behind-the-scenes story about a brutal early-morning shoot as Fergie/Black Eyed Peas.

Guests

Kenan Thompson (SNL cast member from 2003–2008; longtime performer known for steady, observational comedy and strong delivery). Maya Rudolph appears as the “check-in” guest who knows Kenan and suggests questions.

Key claims

Kenan says he “became friendly to the process” of SNL and learned to deliver well in whatever he’s given. He describes early performance as starting in kindergarten (playing the Gingerbread Man) and being driven by hearing audience laughter. He argues casting chemistry matters more than the jokes themselves.

Notable examples

TT and Mario sketch; playing Toto in a church production of The Wiz; Rockefeller Center Christmas ice-skating; audition nerves “seatbelt” moment; working with Chris Farley (ketchup cake chaos); the Bungalow 8-to-6 a.m. Black Eyed Peas shoot where they had to stop traffic in New Jersey.

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Chapters

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Checking in with Maya Rudolph

0:02 to 0:38

Maya shares her thoughts on Kenan and their connection.

“First, you're watching the eBay live stream telling yourself, I'm just looking.”

Checking in with Maya Rudolph

1:12 to 2:18

Maya shares her thoughts on Kenan and their connection.

“And before we do, we always check in with somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind their back, who wants to give me a question to ask them.”

Maya and Kenan's Bond

2:54 to 11:15

Maya reflects on her shared experiences and history with Kenan.

“ever had mugs you know what i would give for one of those mugs right do you know what we were looking this is gonna this is really adhd and this is gonna take us on a completely different tangent.”

Anticipation for Kenan's Interview

11:15 to 14:00

Amy expresses her excitement about interviewing Kenan and discusses his journey.

“I just wanted a microphone and a laugh with my friends.”

Introduction and Podcasting Journey

14:00 to 17:00

Kenan Thompson discusses his experience with podcasts and his connection to Amy Poehler.

“It just reminds me of like us as characters.”

Early Performative Moments

17:00 to 22:50

Kenan shares stories about his early experiences in performance and childhood acting roles.

“That's why I was like I was ready to take my sunglasses off.”

The Influence of Family and Comedy

22:50 to 27:20

Kenan reflects on his family dynamics and their influence on his comedic style.

“I thought that was kind of the, you know, the mountain I would be on.”

Career Reflection and Future Aspirations

27:20 to 28:09

Discussion on the timing of Kenan's career milestones and his aspirations moving forward.

“Just the black, zagged zeitgeist, basically.”

Family Humor and Early Influences

28:09 to 30:17

Explore the comedic influences from Kenan's family and childhood.

“Did you guys watch as a family stuff together?”

Memories of Eddie Murphy and SNL

30:17 to 31:58

Discuss early memories of Eddie Murphy and the impact of SNL.

“No, it hadn't gone well, I don't think, for anyone at that point.”
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Working with Comedy Legends

31:58 to 34:33

Kenan shares experiences working with Chris Farley and Jim Carrey.

“and it's like a dad and two brothers, basically.”

Learning the Ropes on Set

34:33 to 36:34

Insights into professionalism and etiquette learned on set.

“But what you're talking about is just like straight up like etiquette on set that a lot lot of people when they arrive at SNL, not only have not ever been like on TV, but often have never been on any kind of set.”

Ice Skating Adventures

36:34 to 37:40

Kenan reflects on his ice skating skills and experiences.

“Second, free stuff was the first thing I noticed.”

Auditioning for SNL and Nerves

37:40 to 42:00

Discussion about the nerves and experiences during the SNL audition.

“Okay, let's talk about Mighty Ducks because you are one of my friends that skate the best.”

Nervous Energy and Audition Stories

42:00 to 45:36

Explore the blend of nerves and creativity in auditions, and the impact of casting.

“So I have to like put it in the words that like, I recognize that this is crazy.”

Nervous Energy and Audition Stories

46:50 to 47:10

Explore the blend of nerves and creativity in auditions, and the impact of casting.

“By giving that person a chance to come back stronger.”

SNL Memories and Learning

49:20 to 56:05

Reflect on the experiences of working at SNL and the lessons learned through the years.

“And she'd be like, hey, I'm hosting this club thing.”

Finding Balance in Life

56:05 to 57:35

Explore Kenan Thompson's perspective on handling life's ups and downs.

“And there's always been some sort of representation of a bad guy, if you will, or a bad, you know, situation kind of stuff.”

The Dynamic Duo: Kenan and Maya

57:35 to 59:29

Kenan shares his admiration for Maya Rudolph and their unique chemistry.

“Like, all four of my, like, original, Dratch and Tina, like, my four horsemen, horse lady sisters are giant forces of nature.”

Memorable Moments from SNL

59:29 to 1:01:27

Discussion about heartfelt moments and performances on SNL.

“And we talked about TT and Mario, which, you know, is my favorite, which is the couple that is.”

The Journey of a Comedic Career

1:01:27 to 1:03:08

Kenan reflects on his path and early ambitions in comedy.

“There was like all hands on deck kind of energy because you're such a pivotal part of the show.”

Family and Laughter: A Personal Touch

1:03:08 to 1:06:39

Kenan discusses his family life and the joy of being a father.

“I'm just going to my daughter's little like summer play.”

Legacy of Kenan's Characters

1:06:39 to 1:08:22

Amy reflects on the lasting impact of Kenan's characters on SNL.

“And Kenan's character used to say bouquet instead of okay.”

Legacy of Kenan's Characters

1:08:49 to 1:09:12

Amy reflects on the lasting impact of Kenan's characters on SNL.

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0:38Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I talked to the amazing, kind, hilarious Kenan Thompson today. And we talk about some really fun stuff. We talk about Eddie Murphy and how important he was to both of us. We talk about learning how to ice skate and how it is hard, and Kenan is good at it. we talk about how we partied really hard and how we suffered because of it. And we talk about, can I wear sunglasses on the red carpet? Am I allowed? Is that cool? And the answer is no. So we're going to talk to Keenan today. Cannot wait. And before we do, we always check in with somebody who knows our guest, who wants to speak well behind their back, who wants to give me a question to ask them.

1:20And that person is world superstar, Maya Rudolph. Maya Rudolph joining me today from Zoom. You know, just, I don't know, comedy legend, whatever, no big deal, friend of the pod. Let's see what Maya's up to and check in on that cutie pie. Maya. You know, those tiny back to school emergencies that somehow become your problem. That's where Uber Eats comes in. You can order school supplies, snacks, and lunchbox essentials for$5 or less. So when your kid casually drops, I don't like peanut butter anymore, or I need five green highlighters for a project due tomorrow, Uber Eats has you covered. Get everything you need for back to school today from your favorite brands like Aldi and Staples on Uber Eats.

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3:07It doesn't matter. You know what we were just looking up this morning? Bicentennial 31 flavors slash Baskin Robbins Bicentennial ice cream flavors. And do you know what some of them were? Wait, so just said that this is 1976 flavors? 1976. Okay. For the Bicentennial 31 flavors, aka now known as Baskin Robbins, or is it the other way around? I think it's the other way around now it's they don't they have more than 31 right yeah um one of them was called valley fudge valley what was another one my uh oh god now i gotta look it up again one pie was one was apple paella mode yeah sure that's cute cute but like give me value give me a form word oh thank you minute man mint so stupid you know gen x has lived we lived we were alive i was alive during the bicentennial and here we are celebrating 250 years and boy has america never been better that's exactly how I feel yeah I mean when you think about how far we've come well how far we've come and how much we fixed that should be the the the slogan we've fixed a lot we're talking to Keenan Thompson today and I'm so psyched that I'm talking to you because you and Keenan are linked in a lot of ways for me like I think some of my most fun and most tender and funniest moments are watching the two of you perform?

5:00Like you guys really have a connection. How would you explain it? You know, when you meet your people and you can't really, you can't really find words for it. So you just feel like you've known the person your whole life. I always feel that when I see Kenan, I feel like he's always been there and we don't have to say anything. It's, and it's, there's a, there's a relaxation that comes over me when I, when I see him, when I watch him. Yes. It's like watching an incredible musician. You know that you're in good hands and you can't wait to see what they're going to bring you because you know, it's going to be masterful and amazing, but it's also going to fill you with like a, with a joy, like it's relaxing.

5:56I used to feel that way about watching Prince on stage. I'd get relaxed because I was like, he can do anything. He can do anything. Kenan, I'm instantly, instantly like warmed and already giggling a little bit. There's a twinkle in his eye that says it all. Yes, Maya, it's so true. There's a twinkle. I have such strong memories of him, you know, inviting him into our dirty, dirty office, you know, sit on the floor on his knees or something. Like, I mean, we lived like disgusting college students, Amy. Yeah. And you too, that was your perch. Yeah, that was my perch. Which bringing friends into that and giggling till four in the morning.

6:45I remember so clearly writing stuff with him. If I bring it up now, I'll probably get canceled what we were writing. But it was so fun. And all we did was laugh. All we did was laugh. Like listening to songs and finding the little tiny minute things and then going in and laughing. I mean, a great example of that is one of my favorite characters and sketches at SNL ever, which is T.T. and Mario. T.T. and Mario. So for people that didn't ever watch T.T. and Mario, how would you explain who T.T. and Mario were? That's a great, thank you for asking me. T.T. and Mario is a duo from your childhood past that is so, they sing the most beautiful love zones that are so raunchy and disgusting.

7:37they think they're very loving. Yes, they're romantic. They're a married couple with children. They've been together for a very long time. And sometimes one might say that sometimes they need the music to make things fun again. And what I love about them is they always start so beautiful and so romantic. And then maybe 10 or 15 seconds in, they start talking about each other's booty and how tight it is. Yeah, there's a lot of booty play involved. and TT and Mario serenaded you in the hospital. That's right. When Archie was born. That's right. I want to talk to Keenan about it because it was so, it was like if I could have picked two, I couldn't have picked two better people when I was in a postpartum haze to be singing at me from TV.

8:27For sure. Then you guys, it's funny, I'm excited to interview Keenan because there's a lot I actually don't know about him. He's more of a coyote. He's more of an observer and a mirror than he is sometimes a sharer. Do you have any questions for me today that you would like to hear Kiki talk about? I mean, we're different ages in terms of like our influences, but he was so like well-formed when we met him. Like, I want to know what he was doing. I know he was performing as a young person, but like, how did that, how did that get in there as like, oh, I know when I'm, when I'm big, I'm going to be this.

9:15Like, how did those influences create the Kenan that we know? Because I feel like he came out like this. I can't imagine him any other way. I also just want to know, like, like, I know you're going to ask him about, like, how do you keep it fresh, Kenan? Totally. I mean, I'm so curious about, like, what do you not go to or do anymore? I mean, after 22 years of the show. Oh, my God. Like, you know. How have you, like, bypassed? Yeah. How does the system work for you? Yeah, I'm curious. I feel like he might actually be experiencing like the dream of SNL because if you've been there long enough to be like, hey guys, I'm going to have to go this way.

9:59Yeah. It's probably the dream. I know. It's probably why would you ever leave? It's so fun. If you ever, like he figured it out. Yeah, he cracked the code and I want to know what he cracked. I think there's gold behind those doors. But like little Kenan is always what I think about. And I didn't know little Kenan. And I'm curious, like, I guess I equate it to when we were little, like we would do plays in our living room and things like that. Like, was he just the guy who made his friends laugh? Was he the guy who was like, because he's always been so steady and so funny. Yeah. And it feels like, like, where does that charm come from?

10:43Okay. So I'm going to ask Kenan about little Kiki, which we all know little Kenan is probably the cutest kid we've ever seen. On earth. Like, like hands down. And because I like knowing if that, if that person knew that that person was going to be the person we know today. And I feel like it's a yes. I feel like that guy always knew. I feel that way about you too, Maya. I feel like seeing little Maya on a home movie singing into a microphone, you knew that too. That's all I wanted. I just wanted a microphone and a laugh with my friends. Yeah. And look at you guys singing together about putting whipped cream on each other's business.

11:27That's all I want for America, for them to put whipped cream on each other's business. All we want is for Valley Fudge to make a comeback. Honestly, yeah. Don't you love this angle? I mean, I picked a great angle. My neck looks like... You actually look great. What does it say in your shirt? Oh, Rory's place. Oh, hello. It's my favorite restaurant in Ohio. Maya just dropped the phone down her shirt by accident. Oopsie. Yeah, exactly. Oh, no. It fell down my pants. Do you kids want to see what happens when my phone falls? I feel like relaxed and smiling because we're talking about Keenan. You know what I mean?

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12:50Visit Subaru.com slash hybrid to learn more. The Subaru Forester Hybrid and Crosstrek Hybrid. Love goes the extra mile. Listeners, Kenan brought me some fake. Of course. Wow. This is becoming a thing now where I'm getting fake food. It's real. How are you doing? Are you going to wear your sunglasses the whole time? I'm not. I knew that would be a thing. Well, no, because I was going to say I'll put some on too if it would make you look. Would you like it? I don't have any, but I could wear some. I would like them off because I want to see your beauties. I'm fine taking them off. Of course. It's good to see you.

13:24You too. I just feel cool when I wear them. I do too. I feel cool. Okay, what did you bring? But look at this. Wait, wait. Come on. Okay, let me explain. Is Keenan... That is for you. Okay. Keenan brought me a pizza, a slice of cheese pizza. I think it's an artistic expression of the pizza rat. Oh, it's pizza rat. I think so. There's a rat riding a slice of... This is the first time I've had a fake food that moves, like, in any way. This is great. And it almost reflects us because I feel like we're such fun, kind of like life lovers of like a good time kind of thing. It just reminds me of like us as characters.

14:06So Keenan. Wait, and then you have to kind of get it going. Here we go. You ready? Just pull it back a little bit. For those listening, we're pulling it back. And then it goes. We'll pull it back a little stronger. Come on. And you can't break it. so long story short I went shopping and I thought of you I saw it and I thought of you and I've been holding on to it before I even know I was booked on here fingers crossed hoping that one day I would get to come sit in the throne oh my god you know we gotta add thank you Jenna I'm gonna put this on my wall oh look at the placement front and center placement that's super bold placement that's super bold So that is a lot of money.

14:50Byron Allen placement. You know, man, the best. Keenan Thompson is here. Hi. How are you doing? I'm great. You're doing this on both coasts. Yeah, we get to do it in L.A. and New York, which is the best. You just get to do it wherever you are. Yeah. And convenient for like guesting people, I'm guessing. Yeah. Really convenient. Good job. Congrats on the golden. Who gets a go for a podcast? No one does. Exactly. That's why you're such a gangster. We just got it. Exactly. That's amazing. Congrats to everyone, you guys. That's really cool. Congrats to podcasting. Yeah, way to go, podcast. Come on, Spotify.

15:26You have a podcast, right? I did a podcast for a long time with a buddy of mine, yeah. Yeah, what was it about? It was just two black guys existing in America, you know what I mean, with a love of, like, you know, Hollywood and stuff like that. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, I listen to podcasts. I listen to yours. I just caught up with The Lonely Island because I did a guest appearance because of the Reba episode. Yeah. And then I was like, wait a minute, let me look at how long they've been doing this. And I went back to the beginning. And it is a long ride. And God bless those guys for just showing up.

15:57And they're so funny. Showing up, barely showing up. Barely showing up. It's hard to get all four of them on the line. Oh, it rarely happens. And it's such a treat. Totally. But they're combing through like such good memories, you know? I know. I know. I felt the same way. It was like really good to go back in time. And we have so much to talk about, Keenan. because we were on the show together for a while, like six years, six years, which was the big, it was like the first six miles of your marathon. When did you depart? I left in 2008. Yeah. That was like a five year. Cause I started in 03. So.

16:35I mean, getting to work with you is some of my most favorite times. And I want to talk to you about it today because you're so attached to so many important moments in my life. Thank you. And likewise, like I talk about my sisters all the time. Like I consider y 'all like, you know, such to like get out of my room kind of like, but also like straighten up and don't come like playing games. That's why I was like I was ready to take my sunglasses off. It's not a game. I'm like your bossy older sister. Let me just analyze. Are you going to keep those on the whole time? Are you going to wear your sunglasses to mom's birthday?

17:12Yeah. Yeah. You're so right. We do have a very, there is a very sisterly quality with you and a lot of the women that you performed with during my time. And then you've gone, your family dynamic at SNL has changed from like younger brother to like elder statesman. I'm like grandpa at this point. Yeah. Yeah, I'm Gramsy. Hey, Gram Grams. Good morning. Everyone's like, shh, grandpa's feet. I know. Grandma's sleeping. Grandpa's feet. Grandpa's feet hurt. Don't tell him. Let's just do less for grandpa. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to take you back in a little time machine to little Kenan. Because the teeny-tiniest little version of Kenan knew pretty early that he wanted to be a performer.

18:01You're one of three kids. You're the middle. Yeah, but my sister's my half-sister. Okay, got it. Just for technicality's sake. Got it. That's why we're 14 years apart. Okay. Okay. So were you then, were you the baby then? I was the baby. Okay. That makes more sense. Yeah. That makes more sense. Just reckless and fearless, you know, and just a strange, like, you know, kind of ignorant confidence, if you will. Do you remember the very beginning? I feel like a lot of performers have this feeling like they remembered that sparkle that they got when they got like attention or looked at. Do you remember that like early time?

18:36I mean, I talk about it all the time. It was the gingerbread man, you know, like in kindergarten. and I'm like in the graduating play, but like I was a gingerbread man. You know what I mean? Like I wasn't the stove. Yeah. So it wasn't awakening because in rehearsal, it was just like learning these lines and like this, it's got to do this thing or whatever. But once I saw people there and then I recognized my mom and my mom was smiling and you know, she was so happy and like excited and it just made me like perform more. And then like, you know, the audio of hearing laughter, like after something I said, I'm like, oh wow, what is this?

19:09Totally. I can remember that feeling too. Like the feeling of just like getting, feeling a little bit taller when you were, when people were looking at you. I mean, look at us now. We're still just fishing for laughs constantly. Oh, fuck yeah. It feels so good. It's so embarrassing, I know. God bless. It's so true because, and I read that you were Toto in. That's what I'm saying. I got really hooked on trying to do something that gains laughter. I just wanted to put those away because. The sunglasses? They were OCDing me a little bit. First of all, these glasses are gorgeous. Who makes them? Thank you.

19:41Those are Gucci glasses. Of course they are. Yeah. And I get it now. I get it what you mean about being able to talk behind the sunglasses. Yeah. Do you think I could pull off, and we'll get to your life. Eye contact is intense. But do you think I could pull off? Eye contact is intense. And you can pull off anything. No, but you can pull off sunglasses on the red carpet, right? That's cool as shit. Can I? They have made it a thing to where, like, I'm just fine with if they're mad about it or not. Because I feel like Jack was the coolest and he never took his sunglasses off. So true. And I'm like, that means you don't have to.

20:20But wouldn't it look like I just recently had eye surgery if I was? Only in the beginning. Right. Then you make it a thing. Once it's a thing, it's just like, oh, that's her artistic expression or whatever kind of like excuse you can get away with. You're so right. Okay. I just want to get back to Toto for a second. You played Toto. I played Toto because all the parts were taken. And I was like, well, nobody's going to be the dog. And this is a church play on the south side of Atlanta. I'm sure we didn't have many like terriers to choose from. So I was like, I'll do the dog. Like, why not? I just want it to be down.

20:58There's a lot of people I've talked to that have been in The Wizard of Oz in different ways. What did you bring to the role? Well, this was The Wiz. Oh, excuse me. It was fantastic. It was even more fun. Yes. The music and everything. And I brought tenderness to the role when Dorothy needed it. I remember like cuddling up to her and like the whole church being in it. You know, this is small, like maybe like a hundred people, maybe something like that. and to feel all of them acknowledge my performance in that way was like, yeah, it's addicting, you know? And then like there's a moment where everybody like runs to the back of the church when the scene is over to set for the next scene.

21:36And like I've been crawling around on all fours, so they left me. And I was just like, oh, snap. Like they're all gone. And I can't go. So I stood up as a dog and ran. And that got a laugh. I was just like fucking swinging on that one. I love it. I don't mean to be like jumping, like comparing your story to mine, but I had a similar experience. I was Dorothy. We had a real dog. Yeah. And there's a moment in the scene where Dorothy's supposed to have a tornado. Like the tornado is supposed to come and she's supposed to go, Toto, Toto, where are you? But I was holding the dog. I was like, this is, we didn't go over this part.

22:11Right. So I put the dog down, walked a few feet away. And I said, Toto, Toto, where are you? Big laugh. Huge laugh because everybody watched you process that and you stuck with it and committed to like continuing the work. Man, improv is the greatest, coolest thing I wish I would have gone to one of the schools for. I know. You feel like from that style and family. Yeah. And did you know any actors growing up? No, not at all. It was such a distant dream. The best I would have thought would be like a commercial, like a national, like a Publix. You know, when I was starting a book that was in the beginning, you know, Sonic, like whatever.

22:54I thought that was kind of the, you know, the mountain I would be on. And was it your mom that was taking you those mostly? Yeah. Yeah. And she was just like down. My mom's so dedicated. She got a job at the Alliance Theater School so I could take classes. She got like a side gig there like as a like answering the phone or like some kind of like office assistant. You know what I mean? So I could take classes at a discount or whatever it was. Like the acting thing, I just, I just loved it. You loved it. I mean, the theme I feel like of today's talk and you, Kenan, is like, you feel like everywhere you arrive, like, is the, like, timing is so important in your life career and in the way you perform.

23:33I think you have the best timing of anyone I've ever worked with. Oh, Amy, thank you. Your timing is incredible. Thank you. The way you know how to play moments and the way you know how to play life. Because life is its own game. You have to figure out how to play. And I'm just in awe of your timing. Oh, man. And so. I guess I'm the second one to start crying. Shout out to Seth. Cry, cry, cry. Here we go. Oh, my God, Seth. So easy to get that guy to cry. The best. But because of that, I look at your life and your career, which is still, we're in the middle of it. We're not. But like and the way in which wherever you are was where you were supposed to be at the time.

24:13And weirdly enough, it's always felt that way. You know what I mean? Like I've never been like overly pressed like the SNL audition was extreme. But like on the way to that, for some reason, everything felt done already. Like I already have this job. Like I already have made my friends, you know, before I even like met all that cast. I was just like, I feel like this is mine to do kind of thing. Yes. Yes. It was like, that's exactly right, Keenan. It's like, it feels like every opportunity for you felt like you were meeting the opportunity when it was meeting you. And when, when you were, I mean, you were, you were on TV when you were what, 11, 12 doing like movie reviews.

24:55That was like a real job. Yeah. Like when I first like was dipping my toe in the water, we would like. kids going along with the news anchored to this new like exhibit at the zoo like it was like about dinosaurs and they did like a little mini special about that like that was like the beginning so I was like this is just playtime we get to be in the zoo after hours kind of like that's cool right but like real news for kids I was like oh snap I have like an ID badge like I get to like tap it to have that so young it just pointed me confidently in the direction of like this is kind of what I feel like I should be doing.

25:31And then all kind of kismet stuff started happening. Like my first review was the first Mighty Ducks movie. No way. Like almost a year to the day I got to audition for the second one and ended up like making it in. And then the director knew the producers from the Nickelodeon shows and they like connected me to that. So that audition, I was real cocky. You were like, Hey guys, hey, old friends. What do you need? You need a Jamaican? I got you. It's interesting because you look young. You still look young. Thank you. Isn't it nice to now get a compliment? And likewise is what we're supposed to be saying.

26:08Well, I don't know about that. Maybe with the sunglasses on. Put the glasses on. Put the glasses on. Would it be weird if I wore those glasses, a cane, and a boot, and went to a red carpet? Well, that's when people are starting to worry. Yeah, and like a wrist, like one of those. They're like, what, did she fall down on the beach? and half my face is sunburned um but you but you had a you have and had a baby face but you definitely had a poise of someone much older than you like i'm curious if you've always felt your age i mean a lot of kids who are acting at a young age especially like making money for their family and being around adults most of the time but you had the kind of pleasure and privilege of working on a show with a bunch of other kids.

26:55Yes. So you were with people your own age pretty much. Yes. Do you feel older or younger than your age? Like, what is your summer age? I've always felt like an old man. Yeah. I feel like I came right from something that happened in the 70s, and I stayed kind of like connected to the 70s. And I don't want to like, it's my favorite era. And like, yeah, I feel like Taurus energy just, you know, capitalizes on that and I'm very relaxed and just chill and like don't want to be that not too loud please everybody just everybody settle down please like I can't handle it like when people like loud talk me in restaurants and it's just love but they when they shout my name I'm like please yeah you don't like that I know that about you and your influences were like that too like Like Richard and Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy.

27:46Just the black, zagged zeitgeist, basically. Yeah. Of that era and then onward. And then, of course, as I got older, looking backwards and learning your history kind of stuff. But I love, like, you know, the blaxploitation era and, like, diving back into those sounds and those words and, like, having fun with it. Yeah. Because it's like, you know, playing in your dad's clothes, basically. Yes. Did you guys watch as a family stuff together? Were you a laughing family? Were you a comedy family? My dad is the joker, for sure. He's the joke teller, and he does really well. He's like a room pleaser when he does that.

28:24Remember at my grandma's house, he would have my grandma almost peeing her pants. And this is my mom's mom, you know what I mean? So we ain't really doing a dance kind of thing. Is he a frustrated performer? I don't know. He's a Gemini, so I think he does a lot of things well. Yeah. Interesting. He was like, he drove like NASCAR kind of cars. He was in the military. He was a mechanic, you know. Yeah. You know, amazing like real estate person. Like made history in Atlanta for kind of desegregating like listings and stuff like that. Really? Yeah. So like he's a very cool dude. And on top of that, yeah, loves to tell a joke.

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29:07And then my mom has this like secretive kind of sense of humor, like a little prissy because she's like the older. She's the oldest of seven, you know, and they come from kind of it's actually called Forest, Virginia. So you can imagine there's lots of trees there and not a whole lot of buildings. So she comes from literally the forest and like kind of had to be a little more like suited and booted. But, yeah, she has this like sneaky little laugh where it's just like, oh, you like to laugh at the naughty. Look at you being naughty kind of thing. So for me, I have a little bit of both, but I'm not really like a room gatherer unless it's like a fixed performance.

29:45No, you're not. Like you're not looking to win the room. Yeah, no. No. I mean, I would say that my experience with you is that you are a little bit more of a three-point shooter. Like you wait for your time and you like to observe. You like to see how people are playing. Yeah, I like to Steph Curry it a little bit. And like when it's time to turn it on, just like take over the game. And you shoot it. You do like a no look on your way out. Oh, yeah. Like I know that's going in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's definitely your style. It feels good. And it's rare to have like a career before you reach SNL.

30:16Yes. Like and not always helpful. No, it hadn't gone well, I don't think, for anyone at that point. I was like, I just want to do whatever because this writing thing freaks me out. So you guys tell me what you want. And it took five years before I wrote something that was like my idea. On the show? Mm-hmm. Scared Straight was like the first thing that actually made it on the show, if you will. Well, you know, we brought up Eddie Murphy, and I want to talk about what it was like to do that sketch at the 50th. But what's your early memories of Eddie Murphy? Because for me, I'm older than you, but not by much, but enough that when I was watching SNL, when I started watching SNL, it was Eddie's year.

30:53He was 18, 19. Same. When do you remember seeing him? But that was kind of me watching from down the hall when I wasn't supposed to still be awake kind of stuff. You know what I mean? And I remember hearing Hot Tub before I actually was able to watch it. Right. You know, just like trying to just be and I just remember being in PJs, you know what I mean? And like watching my dad just like laugh. I think he was still like my mom was asleep. He was just like the only person up. How's it dark? And you just see that like blue flashing in the glow. And like, yeah. Isn't it funny you have memories as a little kid of like when your parents would laugh really hard at something.

31:30It was like you would look at them like. Like, what happened? What happened? What's funny? And it just imprints on your brain immediately then forever what you think is funny. It was always fun getting to a place where, like, we could share laughter together in the same sort of sense of humor, like, with my dad. You know what I mean? Like, once we started, like, quoting Coming to America to each other in, like, certain moments, it was just such a dynamically fun time because it was, like, our little thing. You know, like, we played pool. We, quote, Coming to America. You know what I mean? and it's like a dad and two brothers, basically.

32:05It's really cool. It's kind of like when you're saying like that, it's reminding me that like for some families, comedy is sports. Like that's how you connect is you talk about what you think is funny. And I know that you loved Eddie. I know that you love Richard Pryor. And you also love Chris Farley, who you got to work with. Can you tell us about that? And Jim Carrey. Oh, and Jim Carrey. Super duper fan of Jim Carrey. And I emulate him, I think, more probably than anybody as far as, like, micro-performing goes. Like, I feel like he performs every possible, like, syllable kind of thing in his physical body.

32:46It's wild to watch. But Farley is just a full buffalo, you know what I mean? And, like, he was just so dynamically funny, not just falling down funny. Like he had some quips that were incredible. Yeah. And sometimes his performances were just like he's the only one that can do that kind of thing. So he came to all that and did that. Like, yeah, it was the greatest day I've ever seen because I was like, that's a true pro. That's somebody that doesn't. They would tell us and rehearse us a lot because we were kids kind of thing. He came in and didn't need any instruction at all. He was playing a ketchup chef that likes to put ketchup on everything.

33:27And of course, my character likes to put chocolate on everything. So it was a battle. And they had this eight layer chocolate cake because we were celebrating something or whatever. And, you know, Nickelodeon likes to make a mess, but they like to shoot up until right before the mess and stop and like do that part a few times to make sure they got it. Right. Right. And they really politely asked him like, please. And, you know, take one after we got and we got to that point, destroy that cake. Like it was nothing. Like I think on purpose because they tried to tell him to do something. And he like beat the cake up to where there was like, there's no way we're doing a second take of this.

34:08Jumped in the car, jumped in the limousine and was gone. Like they have showers. Like we got showers. I'm fine. Toweled off a little bit, still ketchup in his hair and was out of there. And I was like, now that's a gangster. That's a professional gangster. and so damn funny and so nice so nice so nice never fronted on me for being a kid or anything you just came in and like you're like let's get to it kind of thing you know i think i'm sure every young person feels this way they remember the people that like treated them like peers when they were feeling yeah when they were um and they remember the people that were um dismissive of them when they were young because we really do act especially with young people like they don't know what the fuck they're talking about or like it's we're always doing that to them and like i have a problem with like people's boundaries like i learned hard lessons with that because i'm just very like outgoing and kind of like we're fine with this right you're fine if i just keep tapping you on the shoulder like you know me kind of thing and some people put you in your place and you're like hey man stop tapping me and i was like oh snap like i'm sorry i crossed that line tc like magnum pi tc i was so excited to be next to him you know i mean like that's what nickelodeon day to put us, you know, in proximity to a lot of very famous people kind of thing.

35:28And I was just overly excited. I'm like, isn't this great, my man? Look at this. This is an awesome thing. He's like, hey, man, stop tapping me. And I was like, oh, oh, my God. I over tapped TC. But what you're talking about is just like straight up like etiquette on set that a lot lot of people when they arrive at SNL, not only have not ever been like on TV, but often have never been on any kind of set. And there is an etiquette to your point, how you approach people, how you, how, like how to be a professional. And like I, Keenan, you are such a professional in the way you approach your work and the way you deal with people.

36:11You're really, really smart. And you've, you have a lot of experience and you could feel it immediately when you arrived at SNL, But when you think back on those early days of learning about what it was like to be on a set, what was the things that you learned? What were some takeaways that you still think about, like what you try to bring to other sets? First, thank you for all of that. Second, free stuff was the first thing I noticed. I was like, I'm in the right spot. I knew it. I knew it. If the price was right, I was doing it. I knew everybody was doing some version of that, whether it was snacks or drinks or whatever.

36:54Whatever I needed to ask for. Little Wendy's, little bacon cheeseburger meal. Can I get that? And they're like, absolutely. You can get that. No problem. You can get that. Don't even take your wallet out. Fantastic. I'll do whatever. We'll be here in 19 hours. You know, how many more times? You want to jump in the lake? Am I supposed to jump in the lake? Whatever. Yeah. And that was definitely like a check. Check that box. But also the size of things. Like when I got on the Mighty Ducks and saw like a movie set and all these trailers and like so many clothes for everyone. I'm like, what are all these clothes for?

37:31They're like all the different scenes in the movie. They got to wear different clothes. I'm like different clothes. That's crazy. It's a lot of pressure. Super pressure. I didn't know how to skate. Okay, let's talk about Mighty Ducks because you are one of my friends that skate the best. Thank you. You're an incredible ice skater. A lot of people don't know this. Thank you. And I pride myself with that because it's not like a big known thing amongst the black community to just ice skate like that. Yeah. You know, like there's only certain people that do it. There's only certain couple few people in, you know, in the NHL or whatever kind of thing.

38:03You know, New Yorkers or people in cold climates kind of do it around Christmas time kind of thing. just, you know, kind of like going bowling, if you will. I remember. To get good at it is wild. To get good at it is hard. And I have a very clear memory. They used to let us at Christmas shows at SNL. It's the best. Best. Do they do that anymore? They haven't done it in so long. You've got to do it. They used to let us, I mean, talk about free stuff. Talk about perks. On the Christmas show, we'd be like, good night. And then they'd cut to like maybe a bumper and we'd all get to run downstairs, what would we do?

38:39Gotta get there. There would be like a golf cart all of a sudden inside the hallway sometimes like for people to just like zip down there. Some people would be down there already. Right. But if you're in that final thing kind of thing, and then we would wave goodnights on the ice. And we'd be in the Rockefeller, on the ice rink. Underneath the Christmas tree. Yeah, at Rockefeller Center. And just us at one o 'clock in the morning. Yeah. And I go down there and I see Kenan and Kenan is, you are skating forward, skating backwards, skating sideways, What are you doing? Doing 45 million tricks. Thank you.

39:09And then I was like, blah, mighty ducks. Because I was fresh off of learning it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So how hard was it to learn for you? Very. Because, like, I remember, like, I was just talking about this the other day, like, roller skating and going to, like, roller skating rinks is what we had in Atlanta. Yeah. Like, I was busting my ass constantly. You know what I mean? As a kid. But you don't feel anything as a kid. Y 'all just feel the knots later kind of thing. But I remember, like, both feet up falling all the time. I'm like all the time. Yeah. So sure, I put it on my resume under special skills that I could roller skate or something like roller skating, you know, but like I never in a million years considered hockey.

39:47I wanted to learn. But after that first day of hockey camp, which was on my birthday, my 15th birthday, I wanted to quit it all. Oh, I bet. I was like, I want to be an actor. I don't want to be an actor. If this is what it's about, like, am I? Thank God my mom didn't let me quit. She was like, no, go back tomorrow. Kept going back and back in like eight weeks on both movies. You learn how to skate. Yeah. Do you skate? Do you find ways to skate now? Do you look for it? Yeah, it's great. Skating with the family, you know what I mean? At Christmas time. Your girls know how to skate? Yeah. That's awesome.

40:18Yeah. They both are good little skaters. They are. Do you watch any ice skating during Olympics? Yeah, I mean, I watch the figure skating, yeah. I watch the girl with the three-tiered, you know, kind of hairdo. Yeah, Alyssa Liu. Is that her? Yes. I know she's from Oakland area. Yeah. Or she's from the Bay. How dope was that? Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Just because of how casual she is. Yes. And, like, she's just chilling. But, like, the things she can do on the ice, bro, is that I give her all the medals. Like, it was wild to watch. Well, she. That and hockey, I guess. I'll watch it all. She reminds me of when you perform because she was very relaxed.

40:57and you get, and like when we're watching her, we're like, she's good, she's good. And the nerves, like nerves, nerves are like, if you can figure out how to channel your nerves. Oh man. So what were your nerves like when you were auditioning for SNL? You're 23, which is still really, I mean, in the context of the show, I guess it's not so young, but just feels so young. When I watch your audition on SNL, there's a small moment that is, because Sandberg did it too when he auditioned, where you take a moment before you start and you go, oh my God, SNL. You said it like to yourself. And Sandberg had a similar moment where he was just like, you could tell he was like, well.

41:41But it was very inviting. It was not like this person is like cannot handle their nerves. It was, it felt like what you do so well, which is you like zapped yourself to the present moment. You're like, here I am, I'm here. Yeah. And it's like, I have to call it out because if I don't, it'll be like it didn't happen kind of thing. So I have to like put it in the words that like, I recognize that this is crazy. It feels like also just a way to secretly kind of quiet your nerves. Oh, yeah. Just to be, say it. It's like silently putting that seatbelt on. Like, remember in Fight Club when he's just like, you know what?

42:21I'm just going to get crazy with this and let this stare and we'll go. I'm just going to let it go. And I just like let my mind just start rambling. It's so, my audition is so rambly. It's crazy. I mean, it's not. And I think I've told you this story, but I watched your audition from a, we were filming Mean Girls. Did I tell you this story? I've told you this story. And Lorne had the auditions. He was watching them on the plane. Private. Private. PJ. PJ. We know somebody that got money. Our friend got money. And probably the first time I had ever flown private. I don't even remember, but I remember.

43:04And it was during Mean Girls. And we must have been flying back from the set because Tina was there. And Lauren was there. And Lindsay Lohan was there. Incredible. And we watched your audition. That's crazy. And we were all like, he's incredible. And Lindsay was like, I love him. And I remember. And I love her. I know. And I think at the time you probably already had the job, but it was, I, the one thing I remember more than the content, which you realize very fast, nobody cares about the content. Like you think the content, the jokes, everything is so important. You can have the best written material in the fucking world.

43:39You can have the best jokes in the world. If people don't feel like relaxed, happy to see you, drawn to you for whatever reason, it just, it doesn't work. It's like, it's this crazy chemistry thing. The craziest part of casting. Yeah. Like, casting is such a, like, shout out to, you know, casting people that, like, do it well. Because it takes a whole lot of, like, thanks for coming in, but, you know, we'll get back to you. And, like, being able to, they're like nurses, you know, just give you. God, you're right. They're like, we're going to give you something. Help you through the awful news.

44:14We're going to give you a shot. It's going to hurt. Yeah. Or, like, let's try that again. Yeah. And this time, do everything different. Oh, I mean, yeah. They're like, maybe this time try to be like a normal person in the world. Like what a normal person would. Yeah, that's a good note. And then you do it and you still like didn't like check those boxes. Did you have fun? Yeah.

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47:16I want to say something about watching you ride the wave that is SNL because it is a series of waves. What do you think has been the way that you've surfed the last 23 years? I think in the beginning, I became friendly to the process of it. Like I became a friendly, useful, like tool, if you will. So like all kinds of people would like write for me because I was able to deliver. Nobody gave us this rule, but, and I'm sure you now tell people this, but if I could go back and tell people one thing, it would be try to do as well as you can in anything you're given. that simple thing gets people to just because everyone's nervous.

48:06Give me one word. Yeah. Or half a line. I love it. Yeah. What have you changed about how you interact with the job that how you've made the system work for you? Yeah. I don't let it just keep me out anymore. Yeah. It used to keep us out. Well, Keenan and I have seen some. It's one of my favorite stories ever of us doing that bit. Please tell us. Okay, let's tell this story. I totally. I need a drink. Let's take a drink. Okay, so I'll start it. Kenan and I. Okay. This was a different time before we had children. This was a different time before we had children. So we would go out a lot, Kenan and I, and all of us would party a lot.

48:45Yeah, we would hang out. And we would hang out. It's New York. Very excited about being in New York. And so there was a night, many nights, but there was a particular night where I was out too late. Yes. This is before I understood the schedule, too. I was just like hanging out. I knew the schedule and I was still out there. And we were at a place called Bungalow 8. Fantastic. Shout out to those kind of places. Shout out to Rashida. Shout out to Rashida. Look, Rashida Jones turned always, my beautiful wife, turned me on to so many aspects of life. Literally the greatest. And she'd be like, hey, I'm hosting this club thing.

49:24it and I'd be like oh my god what time 1 a.m sounds great I mean what the we're there and like it doesn't close like the other places like it can kind of just stay open a little later when you walk in it's like oh you know bring an amazon ring for us and it's time to listen to music and drinks and like lots of people yeah lots of people in the building um so um we went to bungalow and I was there and all of a sudden, guess who comes in later than me? It's Kenan. Kenan comes strolling in. Strolling. And we had a 6 a.m. call. I probably had a 6 a.m. You may be a little bit later because ladies have a lot.

50:04It was first thing in the morning. We had to be up maybe two or three hours later to play. The Black Eyed Peas. It was fantastic. And I had to get in full, you know, spray tan as Fergie. I had a lot of wiggage to be where I am. Heavy ass dreads. Heavy dreads. And it was, the host was John Heater. Okay. Who did not stay out late that night. No. He was ready. Yeah. He didn't have an issue at all. But he's like Mormon, isn't he? He's Mormon. So he just chilled. Yeah, he chilled. He was a responsible person. He was responsible and he chilled. And he didn't even have caffeine. That's how it did. And back then, those shoots used to be 10 ,000 miles away.

50:46I had not slept. You had not slept. Who else was in it? Who was our— I want to say Forte. Forte. I just remember Forte, like, laying on a very hard floor. We were so hungover. Face down. And could not move or talk. And literally, they stopped traffic in the middle of a New Jersey highway. Yeah, for us to pretend to be the black eyed peas. It was like, and rolling. Like, at like 10, 9 a.m., like rush hour. And people were just like, what is happening? You had to be Fergan. Don't poke with my heart. And we had to dance. And Keenan was doing a bit that I will never forget, which is he was taking phone calls from his past self, pretending to tell him to go home.

51:30Yes. Like, you are being unkind to yourself, sir. He's like, Keenan, this is Keenan. You got to go home. Yeah, what are you doing, man? You know, you know you have to get up early. This is not good. Put it down. When you started, you mentioned this earlier, you and Jost were, what are your memories of being, of you and Jost sharing an office? It was the best because we were so dynamically different, in my opinion. You know, like him coming from like Harvard and Staten Island and like me coming from like the south side of Atlanta kind of thing. And like I didn't finish, I went to Santa Monica City College, you know, so I didn't even really get too far down the like college, college, like sharpness road, you know.

52:11So I was still like high school educated in my opinion. I learned a lot from him. We shared an office for eight years. Yeah. Yeah. Because other offices would open up, but like we enjoyed that office so much. And like I think being together so much and then Scared Straight was born from that kind of stuff. And like I learned a lot. Talk about full circle, Keenan. Like you see you're a fan of Eddie. You write Scared Straight. Forget about it. Colin. And then you do it with him at the 50th. What did that feel like? Shout out to those guys. It's like shout out to people that are like, like Colin and Che are both like that.

52:44And I shout out Che out so much because a lot of my favorite stuff that is like very silly and black and really, really smart, you know, is coming from him sharply, like Black Jeopardy and stuff like that. And when you and Eddie did it for the 50th, what do you remember? But what was the little special Twinkly Magic moment when you did that? What did it feel like? So at the 40th was the night before was the first time I met Eddie. You know what I mean? And he just came to that like toast to Lauren in the Rainbow Room. So everything was like very New York magical because it was like in the sky.

53:20And he emerged from a separate elevator from everybody else. And I'm like, of course he has his, you know, specific way. And like I was like, that's really cool. I couldn't contain myself. And he recognized, you know what I mean? He was like, hey, man, like, I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. so fast forward to the 50th Colin suggests we do a Scared Straight and put him in it you know he had hosted which was the greatest show ever when you know he hosted for Christmas time and then back to Che put me in that monologue with him Chris Rock Tracy and Dave Chappelle like what an epic picture I'll keep it for forever so at the 50th they're talking about doing a Scared I'm like I wasn't even planning on I didn't know what to do because everything was so last minute you know what I mean And so I just heard that they wanted to do this.

54:08And I'm like, they're down to do this? I couldn't believe it. Like Eddie and the GOAT, Will Ferrell, like bro, like Will Ferrell is the greatest cast member we've had ever, I think, in many people's opinion. So for them to be in my little baby sketch was unreal. That's so cool. Unreal. Yeah. Yeah. I felt that. I felt like you were a peer and a fan at the same time with them. Super. Because you are a peer. to them. Thank you. You realizing that moment was special is, is kind of like what going back to our theme, which is you were really present in the moment. And the other thing I'm just going to say about you, Keenan.

54:45I just eat too much humble pie to, to like not feel like a little kid looking at his hero kind of thing. Well, that's what I mean is, you know, okay. Do you ever watch a show Alone? I talk about it all the time on here, but it's a, um, okay. Alone is a, is a, um, it's kind of like an adventure reality show. And it's about people who are dropped off in the wilderness, they have to survive by themselves and whoever stays the longest alone and they all have to hunt and fish and gather and all this stuff. But what you realize is the people that last the longest are not the ones that celebrate the hardest and they're not the ones that take the losses so personally.

55:24They stay somewhat relatively even. You bag a moose week one, you're not going to bag it every week. Right. Your shelter falls down. It doesn't mean because you're a jerk and bad things happen to you. Like you don't internalize. And I get that from you. You ride those highs and lows. Do you think that that's true about yourself? And have you always been that way? Yeah. And I think I kind of focus on that a little bit. You know what I mean? Just to make sure that I don't allow things to just carry me away. You know what I mean? Like there's so much to be emotional about outside of the business.

55:59And it's like the world is in like full chaos and has been my whole life, I feel like. And there's always been some sort of representation of a bad guy, if you will, or a bad, you know, situation kind of stuff. And then the more you learn about the world is like, how dare I even be bothered or upset about, you know, such minuscule things as a misaccomplishment in my career kind of thing, you know? So I've always kind of just been like, cool. Like if something great happens, great. Something bad happens, it's like, all right, pick up the pieces and like, let's keep it pushing kind of thing. Because you can dwell on it if you want and let it like suck you down in a little whirlpool and stuff like that.

56:41But then where would we be and where would all the people that depend on me be kind of thing if I allow the darkness to creep in? It's true, but it's like a life lesson of like, can you be satisfied? Like the life lesson of can you be satisfied? Yeah. Is it really, you know, that yearning? I can easily be satisfied. Yeah. Yeah. I know the things I like and I'm happy when they're around. When you speak about, you know what you like. I feel like you love working with Maya. She's the greatest. And she loves working with you. Maya is just such, I never met such a dynamic force of nature. You know what I mean?

57:26Just in pedigree and talent and, you know, the kind of person she is, the kindness she is. Like, she's very maternal. You are as well. Like, all four of my, like, original, Dratch and Tina, like, my four horsemen, horse lady sisters are giant forces of nature. You know, and it started with Maya and like I'm deeply indebted to her for kind of pulling me out of the fog of Tuesday night and getting something done in my first week and constantly kind of being that source of just funny convo or wonderful performer to perform things with. I mean, you guys are like instant family, like you were a family in another life.

58:07You immediately met each other and you were like, oh, you play the same way I play. Yeah. And also just I'm obsessed with Songbirds. You know what I mean? It's an amazing talent to sit next to and just listen to her just take off on some sort of like musical number or something like while she's just sitting there. And it's like, do y 'all hear this? Like, she is amazing. I mean, I always said this. She would be better than most of the professional singers at K-Marsh. A hundred percent. And you too, Keenan. I try, but like, man, what a cool thing to kind of like being close to kind of thing. And like, I just, I love it.

58:43So the same with like, you know, even, you know, up to the current cast and like everyone in between. And I just love our family so much that I like being close to it. And like, it's just, I'm not afraid of how it will be when I leave. It's just, I would much rather just stay, you know? Why not? Who's writing this brew book? Yeah, exactly right. I'm up to 23 years. I know. Possibly starting 24 or whatever. Possibly. You know, like. It's happening. I mean, yeah, I know you're exactly right. What are the rules? And so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody. We get a question. So we talk to Maya.

59:20Oh, my God. How wonderful. What does she say? She loves you so much. God bless her, man. I love her, too. And we laugh so hard at how dumb and how fun the stupid shit you guys have done. It's the best. It's the best. And we talked about TT and Mario, which, you know, is my favorite, which is the couple that is. Put your hands in roller skates. And? Flip you upside down. And? And then wheel you into the kitchen. Put whipped cream on your business. I want you to know I was singing that on the way here. Put whipped cream on your business. What a gorgeous lyric. God bless censorship. if it wasn't for censorship the word play would be so less fun.

1:00:02You're right sometimes the guardrails make it way funnier and you can't say anything dirty so you have to say put whipped cream on your business but Maya was talking like and also I just want to like say thank you again I know I've thanked you many times in my life but you and Maya did one of the most tender wonderful like funny and beautiful things for me in my life that when I rushed from set to have my kid And my first son, Archie and Hay, was in my arms and I was watching the show that the day before I was rehearsing, which talk about like feeling like you're in a crazy alternate reality. You guys sang to me from Update, you and Maya, and with the TT and Mario flair, but not as filthy because there were children present.

1:00:48Of course. Yeah. And I couldn't have chosen two better people to have that feeling from. And it was so, it was such a wonderful, beautiful moment. I really treasure it, Kenan. I'm so glad because it felt that way in the moment. And I was still so young. You know, I was just honored to be asked to be a part of a, like, this is such a moment for you. You're like a brand new mom. And we watched you be pregnant the whole time. And we thought you were going to troop out the show. Like it was a super surprise. That was the plan. You know what I mean? That was the plan. So it was like showing up on Saturday and it was like hearing the news, like Amy won't be with us.

1:01:27There was like all hands on deck kind of energy because you're such a pivotal part of the show. So you not being there was just like there's such a gap. We have to acknowledge this in some sort of way. And yet to be asked to do it was like, this is cool. Like this is what makes this place, you know, an epic kind of place. And I felt very grateful to be involved in any sort of like moment like that. You know, it's very special, man. Maya's question to you was, it was basically more of like a statement, which is you're a fully formed little Kenan. Felt like he kind of came out fully formed. And I think little Maya, too, the same thing.

1:02:09I think you guys saw that in each other. And I think her question was really like, do you think that's true? And I do think we kind of talked about, like, do you think you knew from the very earliest age what you wanted to do? And some sort of way and definitely in that direction, you know what I mean, of like, I don't know if sports is going to be it. Like, I enjoyed playing sports, but I didn't think I was going to be Bo Jackson, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, remember Bo Jackson. Yeah. So, like, yeah, I think I had an affinity towards my path kind of, and I always felt like it had already been carved in some sort of way.

1:02:45Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it was just, you know, big destiny believer that could have something to do with like faith and growing up in church and stuff like that. Yeah. But it just felt that way. And then I kept getting reminded of those things when those kids midi kind of things would happen along the way. Yeah. I'm just like, all right, I think I should just give over to the universe and just stay positive and stay ready. Yeah. Yeah. Well, where are you going? I'm just going to my daughter's little like summer play. Oh, God. You're going to your daughter's play. We're going to be across the street.

1:03:16Okay, but what time is the play at? Where they're allowing the parents in at 1.35. Oh, my God. We have to get you out of here. Okay. So we cannot. It's 1.30. Yeah. So let's go. That's the time. I got to ask you one question. I'm going to put your glasses on. Yeah, please. What are you listening to right now? Yeah. What are you? What's making you laugh? Yeah. What's making me laugh? I love that you're going to your daughter's play. Yeah, it's the best. What is she doing? What play is she in? I want to say it's just their like sixth grade, I think end of school. Does she want to be a performer? Does any of them?

1:03:45Yeah, she's better at sports kind of thing. She's a little introverted. But I see it in her, you know, and she has her moments where she just hams it up, you know, kind of thing. All right, we're going to get you to that play. Yeah. But what are you laughing at right now? What's making you laugh? I'm laughing at a lot of Pac. I'm watching my friends work, you know, like whoever's putting out like new work kind of thing. You know, I just like I wasn't really aware of Sarah's like stand up presence. And I watched that special. That's special. So we. She's a force. We had her on. She is. That special is the craziest shit I've ever seen.

1:04:20It's the craziest. And I thank God because who else can do it? You know, kind of. So I'm like, well, she's here for a reason. And like buckle up, everybody, because when she decides to like. She was so funny on here. Let the train loose. It's gone. Like it was great. Yeah. She's fantastic. And like, that's one of the newer things that I caught on to recently. But like, you know, any and all of our friends that are doing stuff, you know, like Leslie Jones' special was fantastic. Like, Finesse is still out there killing. Finesse is out there with Tisha Campbell, which is why he got Tisha Campbell doing stand-up.

1:04:52And it's really funny. Yes. So like, yeah, I'm just, you know, celebrating all of our friends. Keenan, you always do. You've always been like laughing with us along the way and always like reminding us that like we won the lottery for getting to do what we get to do. A lot of the time it is really a nice reminder and a pleasure to like take a look around, you know, and be reminded of the reach. When we're like flicking through the channels or like something pops up in the zeitgeist, like thank you for Broad City, you know, and like for Paige and Hannah, you know what I mean? Like just supporting like new people along the way and like constantly just keeping the vibe alive, you know what I mean?

1:05:33Fishing for fun times. Thank you for always shouting out all us women, too. You always do that, and we love you for it. It's unbelievable, and it's undeniable. You can put your glasses back on for this last thing. I mean, I love that you're going to your daughter's play. Yeah, my sweetheart. Yeah. Yeah. Jesus. I'm so excited. And my other one had field day, and her country to represent was Austria. So she had to learn about Austria. And listening to a seven-year-old talk about Austria is adorable. Oh, and I've seen the faces of these children. children and they are sweet insanely sweet and cute god bless them and they're so lucky to have you as their dad and now that you're a grandpa we're so lucky to have you as a grandpa yeah and hopefully i'll be a great great before i'm out of here like morgan friedman you know yeah and i'm gonna meet you on the red carpet and have also have sunglasses on and and weirdly a seat like a dog i just want to start bringing a backup pair for people that i like and it was like all right just to make sure thank you we'll get you some keenan we're so lucky to have i'm so lucky to know you and it's so good to see you same love you thank you for doing this so much my pleasure and so happy to see you today yeah same thank you so much keenan thompson you are the best you're the best most wonderful person and so hilarious and i'm so lucky to know you and thank you for doing this and you know in these polar plunges we usually kind of dig deeper into something that we talked about but i just want to take a minute to just dig a little bit deeper into the fact that Kenan's characters on SNL 23 years in still kind of remain the characters that I quote on a weekly basis, whether it is TT and Mario saying, I'm going to put whipped cream on your business, or it's Jean-Claude Jean, the French standup comedian who says, when he does update or DJ Dynasty Handbag, a character that he did on a sketch called Deep House Dish, which was kind of like a Euro MTV show and written by the great James Anderson.

1:07:36And Kenan's character used to say bouquet instead of okay. And I say bouquet or bouquet or bouquet or whatever, however he said it. I say it all the time. I guess my point is Kenan is like like woven into the fabric of that show and my experience in that show in a way that's, that's like very, very, very special to me and is kind of stuck in my brain. So, um, my plunge today is to encourage you to keep watching his stuff, past, present, and future, and to stay in the present like Kenan does too. So thank you for listening to, uh, this podcast called Good Hang with Amy Poehler. Okay. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang.

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Kenan Thompson showed up in some Gucci glasses. Amy hangs with the 'SNL' star and talks about what he brought to his role as Toto, over-tapping T.C., and wearing a will.i.am wig while very hungover.

Host: Amy PoehlerGuests: Maya Rudolph and Kenan ThompsonExecutive Producers: Bill Simmons, Amy Poehler, and Jenna Weiss-BermanFor Paper Kite Productions: Executive producer Jenna Weiss-Berman, coordinator Sam Green, and supervising producer Joel LovellFor The Ringer: Supervising producers Juliet Litman, Sean Fennessey, and Mallory Rubin; video producers Jack Wilson, Belle Roman, and Aleya Zenieris; lighting director Caroline Jannace; audio producer Kaya McMullen; social producer Bridget Geerlings; video editor Drew van Steenbergen; and bookers Kat Spillane and Paige GarbariniOriginal Music: Amy Miles

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