Rachel Sennott

28:33He's lovely. He's so funny. Yeah. So Moss and I would do open mics together too. So I think Moss actually helped me write this part of the joke which was that like he was fingering me and it was like trying to trick a vending machine. Great joke. Great joke. Great joke. That I think all I brought to the story was like It kind of hurt. And then he, like, helped me write that part. Yeah. But I did that. And I got, like, I also, it's like your first open mic, you go on stage and you're like, also I'm, like, 18 years old at, like, a random open mic with, like, guys from New Jersey. And I'm like, hi, it's my first open mic.

29:09So obviously, like, everyone, the room was warm. Warm. The room was warm. It was toasty. Yeah. So I go. Filled with perverts. Yeah, totally. Absolutely. So, and at the time I'm like, I'm a genius saying a joke I didn't write in a room full of six perverts who are all just like, maybe she'll only be here for one week and she'll kiss one of us. Totally. So at the time I'm thinking like, I'm crushing. I am crushing. So I do that joke, whatever. And I get that like high of performing. Totally. And then like for the next like two years of open mics, I'm really bad. But I am like chasing that initial that initial high of performance.

29:58Yes. And when you were when you were doing stand up, like were you feeling like there was a party that was like, I'm going to be a stand up like I'm going to be a stand up. Or did you feel like stand up was a tool or like a stepping stone to what you wanted to do, which was right, act, direct, all the stuff you're doing now? I think like a little bit of both. I think in the beginning I was like, I just want to do whatever I can get my hands on. Yeah. And like you can do an open mic for like$5. You buy like a beer or something and you can do an open mic. So I was like, okay, I can do this. And I did that.

30:31I did like every student film exercise that I could do. there is like I have like a whole reel of like some of the worst dialogue in history no no hate but it was really like I'm doing any I would do them like back to back to back and I would like skip class to do all these films but then also I met talented filmmakers that way I met my friend Emma Seligman and who directed Shiva Baby and Bottoms yes and so I was doing that and then like I started writing sketches. Io and I did a sketch together that that's sort of like one of my early memories of us like forming a bond because she was so funny.

31:16And I was like, I was laughing the entire sketch, completely unusable takes for me, but I was like cracking up at her. And then like, I wrote a sketch that the, these sketches about the babysitters club that she was and then we performed on each other's shows. So it was like, I was slowly like building out the community of like friends. So it was like, I met Ayo Moss, my friend Katerina, who's a writer director, Emma. So it was like, I felt like I got to like build out my community. I mean, that's what it kind of feels like the 20s are about. Yeah. Is like figuring out who is like me. Yes. How can we help each other out?

31:58Like, how can I form some kind of community to get me through the next X amount of years, like, of trying to do the thing that I want to do? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when you were in that period in your 20s, like, well, I mean, you just said that you turned 30. I just did. What did you do for your 30th birthday? What, how did you celebrate it? Because I got to tell you, my vision of you is that you're partying every night. I. Am I wrong? Some times. Okay, let me, I have so many things to say. Okay. First, I just have to say, I just, do you know about your Saturn return? Not only that, but I believe that I'm going to, in just a year or two, be entering my second.

32:45Oh my God. Because I've been doing research for this because of your show. Yeah. Because I love LA, which we're going to talk about. And it's all about Saturn's return, which you just went through. I did. And I believe you go through a second one in, I'm 54, but I think you start going through a second one like 56, 57. Are you scared? I could look it up, but. Are you scared or excited? I'm excited. You're excited? Very excited. Because it does, I will say, it's nice, back to the rock bottom thing. Yeah. When life sort of like shakes you up and you're like, whatever, let's rock. How did it shake you up?

33:20Okay, I feel like it was, like, the whole thing is, like, three years long. But there's really, like, one month that's, like, super chaotic. Or for me, there was, like, a month that was, like, really bad. And I felt like everything all happened in one month. But basically, like, I feel like in my early 20s, I was partying every night. I was, like, very messy, chaotic. I was, like, crying at the bar on the table. Like, it was really crazy. Yep. Then I feel like I moved to LA and I, like, I got really, like, a little weird and, like, hermity and, like, kind of, I don't know. I went through this thing where I was just not feeling good in myself.

34:04Like, the strike was happening. I was really depressed. and I think I also like had a lot of insecurities about like myself as a writer or creator like I didn't think I could like make something on my own and I was really scared to and then I think like basically the the big part of this out of return was like I went through a breakup and I didn't know about if my show was going to get picked up yet but in the meantime I had to sort of saying no to other opportunities, which was really hard for me, especially because I think I defined myself off of my work and my value off of my work. And so I was like, I have to say no to stuff and like, trust my gut that this is going to happen and that I can make something on my own.

34:54And when I say on my own, literally I made it with amazing room of writers, amazing co-showrunner, directors, blah, blah, blah. Of course. But you know, women always feel obliged to say that and they don't have to but he just it was but but you know i take it back i fucking take it back because no you're absolutely right nobody does anything alone yeah nobody does anything alone but you're you're making a really interesting point which is like which i see see this in you and women that you're coming up with which is this you know this moment where you have to kind of decide to take ownership of the stuff that you want to make yeah and decide that you're ready to do it yes because no one's I think like it's also like you can't do anything until you do it like it's like I directed an episode you just have to direct one day and be like okay like obviously you prepare and you write you draw the little pictures you make all the things yeah and you go I think the shirt should be blue well that's the thing about directing and I want to talk to you about this because you've been really I love how you talk about directing and producing and writing and show running, which is, you know, people act like everything is like a secret room.

36:01Like we learned this from Hamilton. Like that, like there's a room where it happens and only certain people are allowed in it. And there's a language and a vocabulary and only one way to do something. And it keeps people out of the room. Yes, totally. And then you get in the room and it's like three guys being like, I think we should shoot it really slow. I think we should do it really fast. And you're like, this is all, this is what they're saying. this is what they're saying in here? Totally. You're kidding me. And they have snacks. They're ordering like three rounds of coffees to say, I think we should shoot it slower.

36:36I got pissed. Yes. It's incredible once you get inside the room. And then you get high and then you're like, I'm staying in here and I'm ordering 10 coffees and we're shooting it fast and then slow. So you're going through your Saturn's return. You come out the other side and you greet 30. Yes. do you party on your 30th birthday? I do party on my 30th. That's what I thought. I do, sorry. That's what I thought. I do parties. What does that look like? I went to Sicily. Amazing. For my friend's wedding. Okay, great. And I really partied there. Great. And then I stayed there for the week. Perfect.

37:13This is what I expected, Rachel. I'm happy to hear this. And I really went off. It was great. It was fabulous. And it was good. It was good because I feel like I've been working for so long. Yeah. Like I went into the hole of making the show. Yeah. And now I'm out every night. I'll tell you that. I am. I'm going to a concert tonight if you want to come. Where are you going? I'm going. Okay. I'm going to see. Do you know that girl Adela? No. I wish I did. You're going to. Do you, Jenna? I'm like that song, Sex on the Beat. You got to get under that. Oh my God. I'm so old. Adela. Okay. It's her concert?

37:49It's her concert. And I'm going and I can't wait. And then I'm going to, I just basically, this is the other thing. Tell me if you do this. She's a Slovakian singer-songwriter? Yes. Very cool. She's very cool. Cool. But she, so I'm going to that tonight, but I do this thing when I'm like shooting something where it's like you put off every single person in your life. Classic. Yeah. You make promises you can't keep, which is like, you're like, yeah, when this is over, I am going to be, I am going to be out. I am going to be just going to the club and then dinner and then we should go on a hike the next morning really early.

38:30Like I make so many promises and then it's like you get into a debt, a social debt, but it's actually kind of fabulous because then you just commit to a period where you're like, let's go. You're in that period right now. So tonight is a dinner first. I love talking to people about plans because I don't want to do them, but I want to hear your plans. I want to know. Yeah, I want to know what you're doing tonight. Okay, so the plan is we're doing a group dinner. Amazing. Where? At my boyfriend's house. We're ordering food. Fun. So we have a small group going. Yep. We're pre-gaming. What time is this?

39:04This is probably 8 o 'clock. Fuck. That's just dinner? I know. I like an early dinner, too. Okay. But it's more, it's sort of like, you know, if we do dinner too early, then we're going to get sleepy before the show. Right. So we got to sort of, what I'm thinking instead is like, when it should be dinner, that's when I'll be taking a nap. Yeah. But of course I'll be sleeping with my glam on because I want to keep it for the show. So I'll be sleeping like this. Like a soap opera star. Like a soap opera star, glam on, like this. Getting lipstick on the pillow. And then I'll jerk awake, 7.45. Listerine.

39:44You know, swishing around. Yes. Bam. Dinner, people start arriving. Dinner. Order in. Order in. No cooking. No cooking. No cooking. For that many people? Six. That's crazy. Cooking for six people? That's outrageous. What? What are you, some kind of machine? No. Cooking for six people? No way. I only know how to make sweet potatoes and ground turkey. And then we're going to be burping garlic all over the art hose at the concert. I can't do that. No. So. Then you eat. Then we eat. And it's like, you know, drinking a little. Maybe I'm trying on outfits. Maybe I'm leaving dinner, coming back, presenting an outfit to the group.

40:22Oh, that's fun. Yeah, can you do that? Okay. Do you do that? No. I don't, but I, in general, have a weird relationship to outfits. Really? That I, like, and I love, and I'm very, very intrigued by your relationship to outfits. Because for me, outfits, like, I don't have the feeling, like, I'll use my friend, my good friend Maya Rudolph as an example. When Maya Rudolph gets dressed and she gets to change, she would love to do that. What you're doing, like, come in and out of the room with different outfits. Yes. To be like, look at my outfit. What do we think? Look at my outfit. That, to me, feels so stressful.

41:00Do you know what you should do? Mm-hmm. Do you like to smoke weed? I don't really smoke it anymore, but I will. Okay. For this, or it could be a glass of wine, or it could be a little CBD joint, or whatever. Sure. I'd rather weed over wine. Okay. Yeah. Let's do a weed. Let's do a weed. Let's do, like, a gummy. Let's do a gummy. Okay. Okay. You not buck a gummy. Okay. Now, I kind of think it's good to do this, like, on your own. Okay. Because then you— And, like, maybe— By myself? Yes. Okay. Start by yourself because then you're not— You know you're not doing it for anyone. Or you better believe all carbonate.

41:34I'm in my social chapter. I'm free. So— I'm already worried that you're overbooking yourself. Don't promise that. Okay. Okay. But I'm just saying. Okay. I would say do it in, like, the daytime. time. Gummy, iced coffee, so that your body's fighting itself.

41:55Okay. I'm in my apartment. It's blazing sun, gummy and iced coffee, two o 'clock in the afternoon. I just cancel all my plans. And what do I do next? I go to my closet, play an elevator, getting really high from the coffee and then getting really down from the gummy okay music what do i play what do i play i think it's like something really like ethereal fun okay like like you know you make me feel like dancing okay i'm just kind of telling you about a saturday that i had like a week ago okay perfect and then and then you just start trying shit on. Okay. And you throw stuff on the floor and you take pictures with stuff.

42:46And it's like, and maybe like halfway through you stop, you order some food. And it's like, and by the way, you're not picking up any of the clothes till the next day when you're not high in the gun anymore. That's going to be really hard for me. Okay. But that's okay. But that's okay. It's part of it. Yeah. Is it's just like, there's no like, there's no I'm cleaning. There's no I'm organizing. You're playing. You're trying stuff on. And you should also have a mirror with really good light. This is why I'm saying the daytime, because in my house, I have a mirror that only looks good at a certain time.

43:16So you can take this and, you know, judge it for, like, your vibe. Okay. You know, like, but this is just for me. This is actually really helpful because it is about, like, what you're talking about is about play. Yes. Like, not, just not making everything so serious. Not making everything so serious. and it's like you can you can take pictures of stuff or lots of times I'll do videos of me like walking and then walk into the camera back and then I text them all to my sisters and I go like heart which ones you like okay this feels like a very sister thing yeah yeah yeah like what sisters do for each other yes and then you can get feedback and then they can be like drop the vest keep the scarf right you know and do you take that feedback do you go depends depends depends Because it's like, sometimes I'm like, you don't know, this is a really good outfit.

44:08And then, and sometimes you, by the way, sometimes you'll try on an outfit that you created that day. That this is, that's inventing outfits. This feels like level two. I feel like I'm at level two right now. I just need to start by taking the gummy during the day. Just start by taking the gummy. Just start by getting high in the morning. And then work your way up. And work your way up. To all of this.

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48:07Okay, you and your sisters make me think about the women that you have kind of like your chosen sisters, like you said, Ayo. And another chosen sister is Molly. Yes, love Molly. Molly Gordon, who we spoke to for this interview. Love. I love her. I just talked to her last night. She said you guys talk every day. Yeah. She called you her wife. What? Wife, sister. We're like, which is weird, but like five different things. So for people who like are getting, because I think like there's a lot of people who are getting to know your work, Molly's work, Io's work. Like you are this rising class, I think, of really, really talented artists and filmmakers and showrunners and writers and actors.

48:57but Shiva Baby was a film that you and Molly did together that was this teeny tiny film that really like exploded and took off. Can you talk a little bit about the path of that? Yes. So that was a crazy experience and it's crazier now looking back at it because so it was first a short film that Emma Seligman wrote and directed that I was in and it got into South By and after it got into South By Emma was like, I still remember it was like Emma and I like met up at a dig in. For a dig in. What's a dig in? Oh my God. At a dig in? A dig in. It's a fast casual lunch place. It's like a. Oh, a dig in is a restaurant.

49:45It's like a sweet green. It's like a sister of a sweet green. Sweet green was brought up earlier because Molly was like, that's a nice place to go the bathroom. They're usually nice. They sweet green. They'll let you. So dig in, is that an LA thing? No, it's a New York thing. Oh my God, I don't know it. Okay, good to know. I think they have them here too, but there was really a chapter where it was big. Okay. In New York when we were in college. Got it. So we meet at a dig in, we're catching up, and Emma is like, I'm going to make Shiva Baby into a feature. And that's also the same day that we came up with the loose idea for bottoms, and we started writing it.

50:21Wow. So we're writing bottoms, while Emma's also writing Shiva Baby. And basically it was like, this like slow process of building the movie out. And it's like, no one wants to make a first time filmmaker's movie. It's like so impossible to get people behind you. And it was sort of like this game of like, we're trying to cast the movie. We don't have the money for the movie. I want to shout out Rhiannon Jones, who was one of the producers who was like the first person to like be like, I'm giving you guys money to make this movie. and gave like a big chunk of money. It was like a super indie movie.

50:59I think the budget was around like 200K. But it's like, that's really hard to raise that money when you are college students. Yeah. And all you have is a short film to produce. So it's like, I remember like talking with Emma and we're like trying to cast the movie without the money, get the locations, but get the funding at the same time. So it was all of that. and when Molly signed on to do it, it felt like, oh my God, like she's legit. Because we had both seen her in Booksmart and been like, she is so funny. Right. So funny and like she's a real actress. I mean, that's exactly what she was talking about.

51:41Like she said, when you guys met, you were like, you're a real actress. Help us. Yeah, but I relate because when you come through the door of like comedy, you often feel like that's, that's just kind of like, you just, you've always, that's the door you've always come through. And it takes a minute to figure out that, you know, everyone is talented at a lot of things. So were you feeling then insecure about your acting or anything or? Definitely. You were. I was because I had never been, I was all of a sudden the lead of a film that wasn't fully funded yet and didn't have a location. Like, it was so, like, it was like, I think we got the rest of our funding like a day before we shot the movie.

52:30And basically, we go to film the first scene and it's me and Molly and I clam up and I just... Whisper. Oh, you whisper. I whispered. Right. Because, you know, sometimes when we're really nervous, we get like very sleepy and tired and quiet. Really? And I'm like, no one can tell if I'm doing a bad job if they can't hear me or see me. So it's like the first thing we film is that scene where we like run into each other. We talk for the first time at the Shiva and I'm like, excuse me. And it's like, Emma's like, cut. And so then Emma like pulls me aside because they're an amazing friend and director and they're like, so, we can't hear anything.

53:19We can't hear a word that you're saying. And I'm like, totally. Did this in private, thank God. And did it really nicely, but was like, I think just like maybe have a little more voice. And I was like, totally. We go again, and I'm like, so good to see you. And I was like sweating. This is so interesting because we started talking about like little Rachel on stage being loud. And then you have this moment. You're like, okay, now I'm a real actor. And now I'm going to get very quiet. I'm going to do, I'm actually going to do the, it's like, I'm not going to pitch my fastball. I'm going to do the opposite of what I do.

53:56Well, I'm going to drop it. I'm going to drop the ball on the floor. Yeah. Go. I, I would be like the mound. Let's, we'll keep the baseball. Your dad and the Red Sox would want to know that you can extend that baseball metaphor. So it would be. On the mound. On the mound. On the mound. we're sports yeah so um so you're but that's so interesting so then and then what happens and then I think Molly basically was like Molly can do she like charmed the pants off of me basically and was like she just started improv-ing and talking to me and talking before we were rolling and I didn't feel like I was in a scene anymore I felt like I was like talking to her and flirting with her but feeling like and it just it clicked for me and like between Molly and Emma Emma coming and then it was like we got into a groove and then Emma came over and was like whispering stuff in my ear of like really like make her work for it on this one or like like give in on this one giggle on this one and Molly let's move the camera slower on this one let's camera slower on this one and faster on this one fast really fast and then Molly was like improv-ing and like I just felt like basically they just but I just felt like so like brought into the space and then I felt like I know how to do this but it was like I think I just I just watched both of them like shine and like bring me into their like like artistry is like a big word but I kind of felt like they both We're like, come here, you can do this.

55:37And like, it just, anyways, it really like opened everything up for me. And it was really special. That's very cool. Yes. Now, Molly had a question for you. Okay. And the first one was, please have Rachel tell the fingering story, which you already told naturally. I did it on my own. Wow. Huge. Incredible. So thank you for that. and then this and and she said basically said you know when she met you that what she was so drawn to and what I feel drawn to you right now I'm feeling the same thing which is your like the great audacity of here's what I want to do I want to do this I want to do this like like ambition not being afraid of it like feeling like you want to take up a lot of space and she said that confidence like has that all as have you always had that the question is like where did you where do you think that came from it's interesting because I I look back at myself at that time and I think I was like I was very insecure and anxious but at the same time I did always have this feeling of like I have to do this and I think I think that's from my family for sure like I think it's like I there was like this thing of like okay if you're gonna do it then do it and I think like in my mind I was like I can't even entertain the possibility of not doing this because I don't have any other plan I don't there's never a job you would want to do instead of this did you ever think about like another major or another job other than insurance salesman yeah I think now Now that I'm here, I'm like, I would love to do marketing.

57:24I love marketing. Wait, what do you mean? I just love marketing. I just started getting on marketing calls and I'm like, these girls are fabulous. They're just so, I'm just like, I love, I love marketing. You like, you like figuring out how to get the message out. Yes. You're very good at marketing. You're very good at TikTok. You're very good at Twitter. And you better believe I have, I have sounds saved for us. For our TikTok? Yeah. If you're down. Um. I have a question, a TikTok question for you. How do you get your TikToks to move so fast? You make it slow. I'll show you. Wait, do you ever do slow-mo so then it speeds it up?

58:04No. We'll do that today. You shoot it in slow-mo? You shoot it, yes. So it shoots in, so the sound. Are we talking about a cap cut situation? No. Fantastic. I won't do that to you. I will not do that to you. Someone's laughing. I, Claire, Claire is laughing because I had her help me with doing a, what I've always wanted to do, which is green screen. Basically, I'm talking in front of a picture. That's what I want to do and I don't know how to do it. I just learned and I can show you. I can show you today. I can show you. I just found out how. Claire taught me and now I can teach you. Okay, we might have to do that for our TikTok.

58:42We have to do that. Is talk about ourselves in front of a picture. In front of a picture. We could even take a photo of us, pose, and then we can analyze like our outfits. We could do anything. We can do whatever we want. It's so fun. It's so fun. Why is it fun? Because I think it's fun too. Why do you think it's fun? I feel like I'm playing with clay and dough. Like I feel like I'm like Play-Doh. I feel like I'm doing crafts. And then afterwards you get to watch it over and over and go, I made that. I did that just now. It's so fun. It is so fun. And the noises and the colors. it's just the best but it makes sense to me because you definitely have this sense of knowing how to exist in that space and it kind of comes back to you just like being authentically yourself which is just hard to teach you you know you just gotta rock it I guess you do but sometimes things happen I don't know if you've had this where it's like you you're like okay I'm being authentically myself I'm being authentically myself and then you either these are two things that have happened to me.

59:45You're either being authentically yourself and everyone's like, we hate it. Yeah. And you're like, I should do be someone else. I should be someone else. Or you're kind of being a version of yourself. And everyone's like, we love it, slut. And then you change a little. I'm never going to stop being a slut, but sorry, something else. Sure. You know, you're like, I'm messy, I'm this, whatever. And then you go into a different zone and then you're like, but they still like that. I should keep doing that. But in reality, you're changing. You are the generation that has grown up? Like, when did you get your first phone?

1:00:16When I was in middle school. Yeah. And you've had a lifetime of being online. We talked about this a lot when we were creating the show. I think there's like a lot of times people like look at, like, I'm going to say that my generation, I'm like zillennial cusp. So I'm not claiming. You are. I'm not claiming. What do you claim? Do you claim Z or millennial? I claim zillennial. Because I feel real, like, I feel a bit of both. Do you know what I mean? And when we start getting into skippity toilet, I get lost. Sure. You know what I mean? I'm like, what's going on? I didn't do kindergarten on Zoom.

1:00:50So I, you know what I mean? Like I didn't have, what is this called? When your brain fully develops. Oh, your frontal lobe. My frontal lobe. I think my frontal lobe developed like, what time does that happen? Halfway through COVID. Say COVID. Weird time to have your frontal lobe closed during COVID. During COVID. but I felt it. Snatched. You were like, snatch. Snatched. Ah, yes. Yeah. And, and, and so I, I didn't have to go through like formative development, developmental years during COVID or whatever. Like, yeah, I think there's something to do with that that I don't have. Right. Um, but the, the, we were just talking about six, seven.

1:01:36I found out I'm in group seven from TikTok. I found out I was in group seven. Group seven. What does that mean? I don't know. Okay, good. And so if I was fully Gen Z, I would. Claire, explain it to me because she is because she's 25. Okay, Claire will explain. Claire will explain. And she'll show us how to do the green screen. How to do the green screen. Okay, let's talk about I love LA. Okay, I'm so sorry. I'm talking so much. No, it's so good. Same. And you have a great cast and you shoot it in LA. And do you love LA? I do love LA. Okay. Can you help me? because I'm actually genuinely, I'm coming up on like year 15 or 16 of being here and I go back and forth between LA and New York and I'm not loving LA right now.

1:02:16LA is crushing me a little bit. Okay. I think I want to go back to the East Coast. Yeah. Like I really, you know, my kids are almost out of school. I'm like feeling this giant pull and I'm trying to stay with LA because LA has been very good to me. And it's, there's a lot about it. I love California. There's a lot about Los Angeles. I have a lot of friends here. I've had great memories here. I've made a lot of stuff I'm really proud of here, but I'm just like what do you love about LA and can you help me love it too yes I like LA most in the winter I do too it's the best it's my favorite January to April is heaven because everywhere else is freezing everywhere else is freezing meanwhile we're going to the beach in an ugg and a hoodie beach in an ugg and a hoodie yeah and you're getting get this you maybe okay morning to Saturday okay again weed gummy coffee Sorry.

1:03:08You don't have to, but you could do something else. Who's driving? Who's driving? Somebody's boyfriend. Somebody's boyfriend is driving. Somebody's boyfriend is driving. Okay, great. Okay, I like this. Not us. We're getting in an Uber. Okay. But ideally, it's like someone's boyfriend is driving. Like the boyfriend of the friend group. He's driving. Great. I like this. Yeah. And you've got a playlist. You guys stop. You got bagels. Okay. Not good bagels, though, in LA. Yes. Yeah? Okay. You go to Courage. Okay. Great. You go to Courage, or there's a place in Burbank called Hank's. Underrated. giving away my spot, but I know you bitches aren't going to Burbank, so it's fine.

1:03:41It's okay. I work there, so I'm going. You worked at Hanks? No, I work at the lot. Oh, you work at the lot. So I'm right nearby. I was like, oh my God, you also work at Hanks? Okay. I have two jobs. I have three. So you get your bagel. So you get your bagel and now you're eating your bagels in the cart or you save them. You get to the beach, you run on the sand. You're just sitting on the sand in like jeans and an Ugg and a sweater. Yeah, I love the beach in a sweater. Beach in a sweater. It's completely empty. Because no one else is this good of an idea except for us. And you're just like, you're having a beach day, but you're having a winter beach day.

1:04:17And you can make it into a thing like, you could then, then you could go like up to Topanga Canyon and you could buy a set of tarot cards for your friend and go on a hike over there. There's like some really nice hikes in Malibu. There's like, you could go to the pier. You could get like seafood at Broad Street Oyster Company. But like you make a day in the winter that you couldn't do somewhere else. I completely agree. You know what I mean? I think Los Angeles, California in the winter is where it really shines. Is really where it shines. The rest of the year is tough for me. So what if, what if you stuck around?

1:04:55We do like beach day in the day. We got me closet. Yeah. Anna's like, by the way, we're in bed at 7 o 'clock. I don't believe you. We will be. If we're starting the day with a week, I mean we're in bed at 7 o 'clock. You already told me about your plans tonight. I know, but that's because I'm in a social chapter. But in January and February, in January and February, we're hibernating. But we're hibernating with our friends. Okay, okay. And our community. We're hibernating with like six people. Or three, if that feels better. That actually really did make me like Los Angeles more. What you just said.

1:05:31This is the thing. New York, bam. You're confronted with a new chapter or an event or whatever. And it's thrown in your face and it's fabulous. And it's going like, wake up. You just met this person on the street. LA, you have to do it a little for yourself. But you get to sit down in your room one day. Delusional. Me. This. Alone. Hi in my closet. New era. Let's go. Okay. Um, lightning round. Lightning round. I'm walking in. Have you done ayahuasca? No, should I? No. Okay. Um, okay. Are cigarettes making a comeback? They are. They are, but we have to stop, but they are. They are. And they're good.

1:06:18But also, who can blame us? Look at what is happening. I know. I know. And they were feeding people the vapes at 12. I know. The vapes hopefully are taking a break, but cigarettes are back. Well, the cigarettes are people trying to wean off the vape. Oh, that's so brutal. That's like heroin to not take your Oxy anymore. Heroin to heroin pills. It's hard out there. Okay. Album you're listening to right now. I've been listening a lot to the Addison album. It's an album that makes me feel very like free. It makes me feel like my mom's friend who always wore yoga pants, who was like really chic. And sexy.

1:06:58And sexy. And kind of a little sleepy and in a dream. And so free. I was like, yeah. Addison feels very like free to me. Is there a person's career path that you look at and admire? Definitely. I'm not being a suck up.

1:07:15You can't see me. I'm not allowed? You're sitting right in front of me. What if I was like, I need an idea. Bam. What if before this podcast, someone pulled you aside and said like, when Amy asks that, you have to say her. She gets really upset. She gets really upset. Yeah, that would be crazy if they said that. No, I just, I do want to say like, okay, so I'm sorry. I'll just say it and then we can cut it genuinely and then I'll say someone else. Okay. Okay. But I do really want to say like genuinely, like you have made a difference in my life going to pursue comedy and going to like be funny and be loud and be bold like and also be kind like I feel like when I read your book I was like there was the ability to be like both like bold and loud but also like vulnerable and sensitive I think is that like sometimes it feels like you're not allowed to have both and I I I feel like you need both and you should be able to and that's something that I get from you or like I'm inspired by from you and like I think like the women use your community like Maya Rudolph Tina Fey all of them thank you Rachel that's really nice so that's true but now do you want me to say someone else okay um Um,

1:08:50I, Brittany Murphy is an actress that I really look up to. Wow. I think she's an incredible actress, or was an incredible actress. She's just someone who, like, I saw her in, like, immediately, like, when I saw her in Clueless. Yeah. I was like, she just has something special, and she's very, she was very true to herself. She was. you know I she hosted SNL my first season there and she I remember her being like really kind really super hard working very open to ideas and you're right she had like a sparkly interesting quality about her and she could do a lot of things really well yes like I feel like had so much range yes and like I don't know I felt like there are certain people where it's like it's like the character wouldn't be the character if it wasn't you playing it and I feel like she has that which is really special when was the last time you cried um yesterday because I this is the other thing so I didn't cry for a speed round but I'll say it really fast that's okay you I like speed rounds to go slow to go slow I didn't cry for like a long time because I was so like stressed about the job and I was trying to take it seriously and be locked in and I was like there's no time to cry There's no time to cry.

1:10:11And then I think now that I'm in my social era and I have like a little space to breathe, like the lid is coming off. So I'm just crying more freely. Yesterday, I sort of had a little bit of a manic episode. This goes back to the closet thing where I remembered a shirt from three years ago that I haven't, I just was like, wait a second. Where is it? Where is that? And then I started like rummaging through my closet, not in a fun way, no weed gummy, just like panicked. Yeah. panicked, texting people pictures of the shirt, being like, have you seen this? Texting my mom, being like, is this at home?

1:10:46She's like, what? Like that? What do you think the shirt meant? What was it? When you thought of the shirt, where did you, where had you worn it? What did it mean to you? What did it represent? I think it was that I've been living in my place for too long. And I used to live there with my ex-boyfriend. And I moved around to Airbnbs before I lived in that place. and all of a sudden I was just like, where's all my stuff and who am I? And then I started to cry. Yes. I think that objects can do that. Yes. And then the last question is, what are you listening to, watching? What do you do when you want to laugh?

1:11:23What kind of stuff do you do when you like need a break? Like when you want to get out of your head and just feel good. And feel good. I have a couple friends and my sisters where it's like we send each other like TikToks that are like really weird. And then like I catch up on all the TikToks that like my friends or my sisters sent me. And I like feel like I'm watching like their show kind of. Yeah. The feed that they've curated for me. And then I reply to all of them like, ha ha, this is us when we're in the car with mom. This was us when we would go on a walk, drink, or whatever. Yeah. And that feels, that's fun and silly for me.

1:12:01It's funny. It's like we do this at our office at Paper Kite. We like show each other our feeds to see where everyone's heads are at. Yeah. And, you know, sometimes my kids will be like, Mom, your feed is really sad. You know, like I'm like, you're right. It's too sad. It's too sad. But by the way, sometimes that's good because then you can go, I'm in a sad period right now. Totally. I'm not in my social chapter. I'm not in my social chapter. So like what is it? What is it? I'm just as we finish. Can you remember any TikTok that you enjoy that is funny? Yes. Oh, my God. Amazing. You want to show it to me?

1:12:32would love to let me let me go i don't even know how to get tiktok on my laptop i was gonna show you on my phone yeah yeah yeah okay here we go what are we watching i'm just going through i mean let's look okay so how would you how would you describe okay this is incredible yes this is incredible this is a video of um it says congratulations it's a girl and then it says the girl and the girl's walking around wearing a giant pig head holding a baseball bat and to a creepy little song to a creepy song and she looks awesome she this diva is i'm like she knows who she is already yes yeah that's very good that's very very funny okay and then we've got priest DJ.

1:13:20A priest DJ. You just feel like he has a hobby and a passion. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, he's having fun. He is having fun. Yeah. All right, Rach, I'm going to have you sit back in your chair so I can properly say thank you for coming and doing this. Thank you so much for having me. This was a damn delight. Thank you so much, Rachel Sennett. That was so fun. You are a delight. and so funny and charming, and I could have talked to you all day. And, you know, for this Polar Plunge, well, today's Polar Plunge is presented by Visible. When your phone plans as good as Visible, you've got to tell your people.

1:14:02Unlimited data, just 25 bucks a month. Join today at Visible.com. So let's get into this plunge as we finish up this episode. We talked a lot today about Saturn's return. And if you don't know what that is, it's basically this period in astrology that occurs around the ages of like 20, late 20s, late 50s, and late 80s. And it's when the planet Saturn returns to the same position that it was in when you were born. So we all went through it, or some of us went through it, or are going to go through it in our 20s. I'm just here to say I'm looking forward to the next return for me, the next change.

1:14:40I don't know what's around the corner. If life has taught me anything, it's that I cannot predict what is going to happen. But I look forward to the first human robot marriage on TV and that we will be, we will have run out of water and we'll be drinking other things during that return. So, but if anyone's going through Saturn's return right now in their 50s, write in and let me know how it's going for you, babe. Can't wait. Okay. Today's Polar Plunge was presented by Visible. It's one-line wireless on Verizon's 5G network for$25 a month. That's top-tier network at a budget-friendly cost. Tell your people and make the switch.

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