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28:31No, you've not. And then they bring in Keanu Reeves. Like when they end the call back and you're just like, am I still on the chair with the paper plate? Yes. Still on the plate? Okay. Okay. Dissociate and driving.

28:46Did you do a little old-fashioned roll down? And then I rolled down the window.

28:52And then back there, because the bus has all these levers here. Yeah, you adjust the mirror. You adjust the hydraulics. Oh, yes. There's all kinds of stuff going on that I was like, you know. Checking the glove compartment. There's no glove compartment in the class. I mean, I don't know. Is there? Maybe there's an air freshener. There's a million bits you can do. Not in this class. There's an air freshener. That movie is so huge. It's huge for you. You and Keanu, lifelong friends. You create this incredible chemistry together. We didn't create it. It just shows up. It shows up. You're right. And you have chemistry with so, you are really, really good.

29:26I'm like a skunk. I kind of just spray it. And you're like, spray! And whoever's in the light of fire. Whatever dogs are in the neighborhood start coming in. That's what people don't realize. You have to, like... I agree. You got to turn the channel. You got to... But talk about chemistry for a second, because people love to talk about it. But what was it about you and Keanu that, like, immediately you just felt? I think with us, we're so different. We're so... he is very reserved and Zen. And as we were saying earlier, give us a silent room and you can watch us spin out. So anytime he's silent, I'm like the whirling dervish around his silence and he's just waiting for me to wear myself up.

30:11He's just patiently waiting. And then he often doesn't respond to what I say, you know, until like maybe a day later when he's thought about it. So it's, it's someone to learn from in terms of what you and I need to work on. Yeah. The tortoise and the hare kind of thing. Yeah. But you've worked with really, really different leading men. And they all have, they, they are good at playing. Yeah. They're just like, they're there to volley back. And I think, because I am not the femme fatale. I am, I am the, the tomboy. I am the one that will get in there with the guys. And, you know, I think that's why it works for me because I love being poked.

30:52I love being, you know, just be the needle and just trying to get at me because that's a spark for me rather than the real sweet stuff, which just goes uninteresting to me. It goes back to timing and women who have that. And I'm just, I can watch you all day long, but your respect and support of your opponent, because it is like a match. It is. And it's a little bit, a tiny bit competitive in a fun way. In a fun way. In a fun way. And also I see you have so much respect for the person opposite you. I feel it. I feel it in you. You wait. Like even in the bloopers and the outtakes, I see you giving the person grace enough.

31:30And you're like, am I going to step in on this one? I'm going to step in on this one. I see it. And it's a rhythm that just, you feel it here. I feel it here. And don't you feel, I feel like people have music. Like they just have a rhythm. And to figure out how to make it work is you have to just kind of get into their song. Totally. Yeah, yeah. And then I think the reason why people like actors or performers or writers or whatever is they just like like their music. They like their song. Yeah. It's like when someone says you have good taste, that means you have the taste that I have. You know what I mean?

32:00It's like you have a nice taste. This is what I would do. You know, it's. Yeah, that's so true. Gravity. I want to ask you questions about gravity. I mean, well. I love talking about gravity. Oh, my God. I have so many questions. Ask away. Okay. Because I don't think it. Yeah. Go ahead. Well, you were, before we get to Gravity, you know, you won for the Blind Side Oscar. You've been nominated many times. How many? No, I haven't been nominated. I've been nominated twice and won once. Okay. Well, that's more than once. It's like a 50, 50, I have 50%, right? 50%. Okay. Several. You've been nominated several times.

32:34And you won an Oscar and a Razzie in the same weekend. Incredible. Incredible. And I came and took the Razzie back because I went home with it and they were like, you can't have this. So I was like, yes, I can. They were like, we only have one. We only have one. We had Dakota Johnson on here. Dakota Johnson told a really nice story about a voicemail that she got from you. She's one of us. What did you do when she won her Razzie? Called her and welcomed her to the club. What did you win your Razzie for? All About Steve, a film I did with Bradley Cooper. And we never heard from him again. Exactly.

33:10He just, yeah.

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35:31But a movie like Gravity, I'm just going to put out there, is a really big, deep, lots of, it is you by yourself, camera on your face movie. So what was it like to shoot mostly and often by yourself? What did it feel like? There was so much technology within the box. I was literally within the box if I wasn't on the wires and if I wasn't with George. it was music. It was the only relationship I had was to our sound mixer and Alfonso because the whole stage was black. And, and so I had earwigs in, um, and so I said to the sound guy, I said, look, there are these, cause it was all rhythmic. I, my body had to be very slow, like Martha Graham.

36:19And I kept looking at a dance teacher that I had at ECU who came from, um, Alvin Ailey and taught me how to not throw my body around. He goes, you got to stop throwing your body around as he'd throw me up against the wall. And I'd be like, I'm coming back. Um, but I learned how to disconnect the head from the body because the head could speak at normal speed and the body had to move like that. You know, everything had to be what it would be in gravity is I was looking at a dot that's George, that's a Soyuz, that's, and the sound mixer had, we chose selections of sounds and music and songs and vibes that, like you said, you start vibing with a project.

37:00I was like, this song reminds me of this right here. This makes me feel this moment. You know, what makes me feel in absolute silence? What, you know, what, so I would say I'm not getting there. I play two, seven and five, and then I'll get to, and he just was my life mixer. He would mix it and just get me to. Is there any music that you'd be willing to share that you listened to that? I don't even remember but I just remember at the end he gave me this tiny little you know what's it called like zip drive or something little thing with like a whole word plug in you know and he just handed it to me and I was like that's my performance wow that's so cool so it tapped into my body because my body had to do these strange zero g things so you were just faking the whole time everything was faking like everything George and I were in the the pod and Alfonso was giving us notes and they said, does anyone want a water?

37:52And I said, I do. And they handed it to me and I grabbed it. And George goes, you know what you just did, didn't you? And I said, no, I have an idea. He goes, you were like this. Everything was very slow. And I was kept talking to Alfonso and I grabbed the water, but my body was so used to having. That must have somatically been really cool. Like it must have been peaceful. It was very peaceful. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats. Didn't do that. Yeah. And you had just adopted your son, right? I had Lubert. Yes. We called him Luberti Jones. That was his name on the, because he was just, I dressed him in these cute little English vests and he had these little hats.

38:24He was so cute, his baby ever. I mean, he's still cute, but that was super cute. Yeah. It was just, it was an amazing experience because for Alfonso and his son, and they wrote it together, it was about his sort of feeling lost and having an existential moment in life of despair. And how do you show that in space? You go to space. It was, it's such an incredible movie. Beautiful movie. And your performance is incredible. Thank you. And George, too. I mean, it's all just exactly where it needs to be. Yeah. And like space, films about space, I'll kind of watch any time. But the feeling of, like, I don't want to go to space, I guess is what I'm saying.

39:07Nor do I. Okay, good. Let's not go. Yeah. And what was it like working with Clunes? You know what? I've known Clunes since before he got - Is that what he likes to be called? Senior Clunes. He prefers. He insists. Amal calls him that now. He insists. Senor. When did you guys first work? We only worked together then, but we first met when he was, you know, on back porches of all their friends drunk doing Buddy Hackett imitations. And I like, this was before, what was that, the show he did where he was a doctor, you know, ER, that thing. Yeah. It's before he got that. The other ER. The other ER.

39:40It's where he was doing all the, he was like George of the Pilots before he became super George. I was going to say, what is the show where he was the doctor? Yeah. You know, the doctor show. Oh my God. ER. I know. I said ER. You have it on there. I've watched ER three times. You know, I've watched the entirety of ER three times. Like recently? The last time was during COVID. Well, it's worth it. Everyone is stellar. It's so good. Yeah. I mean. Okay. Sorry. So George is a player. He will play and he will bat things back and forth. And he is, he's fun. Yeah. George is fun. Mm-hmm. You guys were great together.

40:16Yeah. Really great together. I mean - We're good in space together. I don't know how we'll do on land, but on space, we're amazing. In space, you're great. In space, we're great. There's no one out there that can compete with us. I only work with him in space. That's it. And this one, I'll only work with underwater. Exactly. But now we're talking about Practical Magic, which you're doing tons of press for. First of all, and I just love, I mean, I know it's weird to talk about the press people are doing, but just watching you and Nicole talk is so nice and relaxing. relaxing. You guys are such opposites in the best way.

40:47Nicole is just kind of on a different channel and in her, and like in a re and really. She's regal. She is. She's regal. And she's also very playful and so are you, but you play totally differently. And to see her play is really nice because you don't get to see that a lot. You know, she's on this one, because the, what I had to Carrie wasn't really sexy for a comedian because I was like, I'm grieving. Yeah. I'm having issues with my daughter. Right. I'm battling with fear and all that stuff. And then she got the fun role and I was like, where can I find moments that are appropriate within these dire situations?

41:29And we kept with the writer writing these fun lines for Nicole and she, she didn't want to do like, she was like, I don't, I don't want to be the comedic sidekick. I'm like, yes, you do. yes that's what you want promise and she just took to it like she found her she found her rhythm yeah and she's really good at it yeah i mean the friendship you guys have is really cool to watch i mean it's very authentic you i'm i'm i know female friendships are very very important to you they've i would imagine i mean as they are to you absolutely what have the women in your life done and the friendships in your life done for you everything it's it's like it it's i don't think I can quantify it because it changes with the seasons.

42:08It changes with our changes. It changes with where we are and where we're not. Um, and you know what, they, they give me a tremendous amount of grace. Um, they judge like my sister would be like, she's doing that thing again. You're like, but my sister will sit there and allow that thing to pass because she knows my history. She knows where it's coming from. Even though she wants to kill me, she's, she's, she's going to wait it out. Yeah. That's what I always say about friends is they know you really well and they like you anyway. Oh yes. You know, it's like they really, really know you and yet they still take your call.

42:42Yeah. And hopefully, I mean, it's really important for me to be a good friend. What's your conflict style? Do you, are you a retreater? I'm a mix. I'm a mixed bag. I'm a little sprinkle of, but it also depends on who I'm opposite, what their style is. You know, I know that's sort of the vernacular right now is like, I'm an avoidant, you know, whatever. I am probably a little bit of everything depending on who I'm opposite and how safe I feel. Because in what we do, unless it's very close relationships, you don't know who's coming to you with safety and giving you a safe place. So it just depends.

43:19But I can read people really well. I bet. And I don't always heed my own warning until like three beats later. I'm like, I knew it. But, you know, I'm like, I want to give them a shot. I want to, you know, like whatever they're coming at me, maybe it's this, maybe they're having a hard day. Yes. And then three beats later, I'm like, it's what I thought it was. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That instinct of feeling something and listening to it and responding to it, like that to me is like a lifetime of work. Basically, it's like our entire life is to figure out like how to shorten the distance between what we sense and what we act on.

43:55But don't you think that's also being a woman? Yes. We have a more sensitive meter, I feel. Of course. We're also conditioned in this, you know, social universe that we are not to trust that. Well, we become experts on other people and we become really, really aware of how people are acting and changing. And to your point, we're conditioned to give a lot of grace. Like that's why like someone like your mom, who's like, I'm going to be an island and you're going to have to come to me is still really fascinating to find in a woman because it's still just like, whoa, she's not saying anything and she's not pleasing anybody.

44:37And she really does not care that people are projecting all this stuff on her. It's fascinating. I mean, the way you're saying that I'm going, I'm getting to know my mom. You know, like I feel like I am getting to know my mom as I become more of a mom, you know, even each day. I'm like, oh, I see why she said that. I see why. I mean, Practical Magic has a lot of those themes, like beautiful themes about like you talked about history, trauma, pain, the idea of protecting the people that you love, the idea of like what is a like what is a mother's burden and blessing? What does she get to do? What does she have to do?

45:11It's so great. and you're playing a witch 30 years later almost from when you played it before. And I'm so interested in this idea in general that as women get older, like there's something that gets very witchy about us. We've always had it. It is, it's the lag time. Those three beats become one beat. Right. You're no longer, you know, like you're no longer waiting or second guessing yourself. You go, it just is. Yeah. Because you've had enough instances in life to prove you correct. Yeah. when you had that feeling. It's called mother's intuition for a really good reason. Women's intuition. We are extra sensitive to things and it's both a blessing and a curse.

45:52But I think as you get older, you just don't want to waste time anymore. At least I don't. The way you speak about the losses that you've had in your life makes people feel very seen and you're very generous about it. And it in many ways reminds me of this idea of the witchiness that happens to us when we get older, that we're coming in with some pain and some, hopefully, some lessons or knowledge from it or whatever. And I really appreciate it as a person listening to you share because I don't know, I can't explain it other than I feel safe in the way that you share because I feel like you're taking care of yourself, which is a big relief for me.

46:36Yes. if that makes any sense. It does. And I, I want to take care of you. I want to take care of you. You're making me teary. Guys, stop. I really want to take care of people's souls, like, or whatever, whoever the person is. I'd never want to be known as someone who violated someone's confidence that someone gave me a piece of themselves. And I was, I was careless with it. Yeah. And I think sure, younger age, I was a dingbat, but But because of the things that I've been able to see and feel and experience and get behind the curtain on, I feel like it's a secret that I don't want to share from those who deserve to benefit from my experience.

47:21Well, you've spoken beautifully about being a caretaker to Brian and there's a lot of caretakers listening. The caretaker world is absolutely underserved. I've been very private since I was a little kid because my mother always thought I was up to something that I wasn't. You know, I really am like, why am I getting blamed for things I didn't do? I just, I'm a guilty, I just look guilty, you know, but I don't want to ever, ever, ever not be, Oh God, how do I describe this? I don't, I did what I had to do in the situation I was in. I didn't want to say anything out of turn on what anyone else experienced within that situation because everyone is experiencing something, their own journey with that.

48:00there's so much to the story that would be of service. But my story, my slice of pie and me and the kids, you know, that's all we can speak about. Yeah. You know what I mean? I'd love to say, but you know, it, it serves no purpose other than I have the information. I've met so many people whose, whose family members have been diagnosed with ALS or a neurological disorder. I'm like, this is what I know. What did you learn about yourself when you became a caretaker? What did you, what was a new thing that you learned? I am always a caretaker. Yeah. Always. And I learned that I didn't take care of the person that was taking care of everybody else.

48:41And that was a big wake up call for me. And I'm not good at asking for help, but I needed help and I needed to ask it in a way that was safe. Thankfully, I had a few angels that stepped forward and was like, this is where the nurses are. This is where the, you know, what did I learn about myself? That I have an incredible sister. And she, she, in her worry for me gave me like an alarm of going, if you do not start taking care of you, something's going to happen to you and what's going to happen to Lu and Lai and I was like you know I and that to me that's you know I learned about myself I have an extraordinary sister you know that's the only thing that I know I'm still developing I mean coming into a press tour I was looking at um the photos of the the London premiere and I'm like I'm not a red carpet gal are you out of your mind okay I'm just gonna let me sorry can I'm okay I'm gonna let everyone That's our first fight.

49:47You look better than ever. Let me know when you're done. Your red carpet is slaying. Let me know when you're done. Okay, I'm done. I agree with you. The outfits slayed. It's not just the outfits. It was incredible stylists that worked on this that made me feel comfortable in my body. From the neck down, I was so taken care of. The person on the inside, like I said to everybody, I would start panicking as we would get ready to leave. And I said, you guys are working on the outside and I'm sitting in my body. I have no idea what you guys are doing. Yeah. And I was just like, and then I got on the red carpet.

50:24I was like, okay, I've got this. I'm going to pretend I, which hand should I put here? I'll work it. Like, I'm not someone who's like, what's up? Totally. I mean, I'm not one of those. It's like, I just, you know what I mean? It's the finger people. I just had this experience. I just did a photo shoot and I was like, did you do this? I gave myself a pep talk. I'm like, Amy, you get in there and you be the person. that sticks the finger in their mouth. Did you really say that? I was like, just be into it. Yeah. I can't, it's so hard for me. I can't just be like, I'm very, very sexy right now. And you just have to be a lot of like, who, me?

51:02You'd be like, I'm just in the middle of something. And then there's two fingers. Like when someone shoves two fingers in their mouth in a photo shoot, badass. I'm like, girl, I wish I would have the whole fist in there if I could. okay i understand i hear what you mean so you're the out yes i hear what you're saying so water brothers because we need you to like approve some of these shots so we can get them on social i'm like great because i by the end i was like i did it i did a really good job you know i loved everything from here to and then i went what's your face doing is it just your are your eyes just like i was like why do i have stink face because you were like i'm like no worse i'm like this.

51:43Oh, you look. Look, look. You have a resting bitch face? Is that what you had? Like, I smelled something. And like, you, I'm like, what happened? That's not what I was feeling. Because. It was because you're here. You know why? Because you're funny. Yeah. That's why you. And then when you're funny on a red carpet, you get this. Nightmare. You get someone going, could you raise the camera? It's like. Nightmare. It's a nightmare. We don't belong on a red carpet. No. We don't. No. But you do. There should be a, no, there should be a comedy. We're not the same. We're not the same. I think we should advocate for a comedy red carpet.

52:15Unfortunately, that's every red carpet I've ever done is a comedy red carpet. But where the cameras help us out a little bit. I've said this before. I'm really relating because I feel like I try my best. Yes. I mean, I try so hard and I get full hair and makeup for hours. It's like a three-hour job, right? And I look at myself in the mirror and I'm like, all right, okay, all right. And I get in the car and I get out there and I feel like I'm posing like this. This is how I feel like I'm posing. And I see the picture and it's like. Yeah. It is the way. I so know what you're talking about. It's like, when did I do that?

52:50Yeah, when you were authentic. But you're not, that's not the place to be. No, exactly. You're right. You can't be authentic. And we have to stop. We have to just. I agree. Stop doing what? Talking, moving. I agree. We can't talk. You know, there's sort of those who. Nicole is incredible. Well, Nicole is a goddess. And she's every single shot. Can we just remove her from anything that we're in? So I'm like, you do you. I would never want to do the red carpet with Nicole. First of all, I would look. Do you have empathy for me now? I have to do the red carpet with me. At least you're 5 '7", 5 '8".

53:28Yes, 5 '7". Can you imagine? I mean, can you imagine me standing next to Nicole? I would look. It honestly makes me sick to my stomach. All your shots would be like this. I would just be doing some weird stuff. With your hands? With your gesture of my hands. So it's not your dad. It's not even like this. And something would be falling out of my pocket, and I'd be talking to her like this. Yes. We all do it. We all do it. And she is a goddess. She is a goddess. Yes. Okay. Well, this leads me to my - Stink face leads me to - And I bet, by the way, we all have body dysmorphia, so I bet you look incredible.

54:06We all do. We all do. I bet you look incredible. And I, I don't bet. I saw it. You did. Okay. We talk, we always on this podcast, talk to people who know our guests and give us, like, we talk well behind their back. And, Oh, sweet Jesus. And we talked to Maisie Williams. Are we already done? Wait a minute, Maisie? No, we're not done. No, we're, we have so much, I have so many more things on the, on the, on the paper, but we usually do like about an hour, an hour, 10. Okay. Okay. And we're live. I'm just kidding. We've been live the whole time. Great. So they're going to... Here, hold on. These are all stuck.

54:46It's like the chins is not working.

54:52We just put a little... You know what I like to do in the red carpet? Just put a little black and white cookie right under my neck. We just think about... And then it just sits right here. Just work it. And it just looks gorgeous right here. Would it be great if there's like a really great collar that you sort of had and it made your jaw snatched and then you had this taken care of. And on the way out, your publicist is like, do you have your cookie? Don't forget your cookie. Do you have your cookie? I'm like, oh shit, my cookie for my neck. My cookie, sorry. Okay. You look incredible. We all look incredible.

55:20We all, women are beautiful. We messed something up. Every woman is beautiful. Okay. Oh my God, I'm schmitzy. Oh my God, me too. But okay, here is, we talked to Maisie and we talked to Joey. Oh, how extraordinary are those two? They're so. They are the coolest. They're so cool and talented. They are everything. Tell me about working with them, what it was like. You know, it's a combination of awe and intimidation because they are so free. I'm glad I had to play someone that was tightly wound and had to be very maternal and dark and stiff, you know, like because their freedom is intimidating and educational.

55:55Yeah. Like we were having about just being a woman and flying the flag and stuff like that. And I said something about fear. I said, yeah, but, you know, you've got this is amazing. She goes, oh, no. And then she went off, she goes, being a woman, she went off on, oh, it's not liking the word witch. I said, I don't like the word witch because it always came with negative connotation. Of course it was. And Maisie had full ownership of it. Yes. I mean, and it was like. Yeah, it's the divine feminine and it's real power. They are both, they both epitomize that. And it's so peaceful to see because I'm like, if that's where that generation is, my daughter's definitely in that generation.

56:33It makes you calm for the future. you like, maybe our job was well done. You know, Gloria Steinem. Yeah. Rest in peace, Gloria. I see how genuine Maisie and Joey are about other women. Their want for other women to succeed fearlessly. They're in support of these women. They don't feel like anything is being taken from them in their support of other women. And I'm like, I just find them, I just, I learned, I learned a lot from them. They, of course, adore you. They loved working with you and their questions were so tender. I loved their questions. Um, and, and make sense that they're those kind of people.

57:12Um, Maisie's was, she was kind of talking about your physicality and she also said something I found really interesting and, you know, not to make the comparison, but it was very, it's very Lucy. It's very Lucille Ball is that she talked about the way you like to really rehearse your physical stuff. That rehearsing is the way in which you kind of get into it. For the physical stuff. For the physical stuff. Not for verbal comedic stuff. Right, but that's what Lucy used to do. Lucy used to come in and walk through her physical stuff, which you imagine like her physical stuff felt like it was spontaneous.

57:40Not at all. And she got more and more comfortable with the physical by doing it. I didn't know that. Yeah, she was really in a rehearsing. And anyway, she talked about how for her, that physical stuff is kind of like Maisie can probably cry like the best of them. Kill her. I mean, Arya Stark, the most incredible character. But she was like the physicality and comedy and those two things. And she was like, how do you not get self-conscious when you're doing it? Which I thought was such a tender question. And I feel like we talked about it a little bit, but I guess, how do you not? You do. And you use it.

58:18Yeah. To be uncomfortable is the greatest feeling for me within doing the physical things like that. As uncomfortable as I can get, because then I can react off of it. So I try to set things up to even bump myself. We had this great gentleman, Gary, who did props. Gary, love me so much. He's always my set boyfriend, Gary, in the props. Because it became a game of I would set things a certain way. And he figured out why I was setting them a certain way so I could surprise myself and then get caught on something. And he would slightly move it aside. And it would just give me something else. And when it didn't move, I was like, why didn't he move it?

58:56Why didn't Gary move it for me? but it to be uncomfortable is the best position to be in. I feel for the comedy that I like to do. I mean, you too, right? Absolutely. Like a little bit of tension that, and that feeling of like a little bit of danger and, um, you know, a tiny bit of, uh, I don't know. I guess it's what an athlete must feel. It's the closest thing to feel. I'll never be an athlete, but the idea that there's something on the line, there's something on the line yeah that you can create that that's not scary but but a little bit of stress yes and that's that's what i do for my lines i learn them three quarters i'll never drop a line for another actor but i want to always like be able to pivot drop it if i need to be in danger like let it surprise me as well because you can become very rote yeah and that well that's if you learn your lines, which I choose not to do.

59:52You don't? Okay. I don't believe in it. That line thing. And then she always had the sweetest question, which is, when is the last time you asked yourself, wow, does it get any better than this? Oh my God. I know.

1:00:14What a nice, what a crazy question. I don't know. Isn't that so nice? Look at us crying. We're so good at it. We're so good at it. Do you see it? Get a close up. We're good. We can do it. But that's, that's when I cry. I cry with kindness. I, in the big moments when you expect everyone to cry, I have to hold it together because I have to take care of big things. The feels hit me when there's kindness that I didn't expect. And that question, I don't. And I think that's what she's meaning. She knows I don't stop enough and go, well, I, but it's not true. This whole past year from, from London, when we started filming, I, I see things just like so differently.

1:00:59Yeah. I really do. It's like, I'm allowing myself to be a kid in how I see things again. But that play is the, is the, um, indication that you're a little out of crisis. It's really hard. Yeah. Really? It's hard to play when you're in crisis. It's like the reason why for a lot of people was hard to create during COVID, it was hard to like organize thing, you know, cause when, when you're really feeling in crisis, it plays, is the first to go. When you feel that back again, that's like some little bit of like feeling that things are getting just a little bit more safe or regulated. Like, um, well, I mean for Joey, then her, for both of them, like just, you know, cause we're passing the torch or we're like, as Gloria said, I light others' torches.

1:01:43So this in lighting their torch. It was a bonfire, you know, and to be opposite them when there was like a lot on the, we have the nostalgia part and to see them just bring it. That's when it doesn't get any better. Yeah. When the choices we made to bring those two very specific talents on and watch them kill it. You're such a good producer. You know, it's like, you're like, can we just talk, take a minute? I love it. Can we take a, you're just, you're just really, really deeply, uh, empathetic, compassionate but very successful and uh you're just a baller of a producer you know that's really nice of you to say I mean I don't you have produced well like 15 films or something and you produce a lot of stuff and I think a lot of people can feel your presence when you're working on something because they know that you're producing it frankly you do a lot of good sucking up in your interviews well you know what right back at you you're always trying to throw it back at me okay and practical magic really good music right right i mean did you have to get was it did you have to write personal letters to be able to get their music we did some calling yeah olivia rodrigo fleet and she doesn't license to anyone no i know she's a fellow witchy poo she's you know what a peach she's a talk about like the talk about future is no kidding she's she's olivia please come on we love you okay all right let's do a speed round a speed speed round.

1:03:10Hold on. Let me get it. Let me wet my whistle. You love real estate. Do we want to do it like this? Yeah, let's do it like this. Well, then the pervs will get into it. Oh, don't you want pervs or an audience? Well, you know, it's a great question. I welcome pervs. You know what I love? It's the laughing that's coming. Are they sitting in the bathroom? Because they're the echo. Is there tile in that room? Yeah, there is, right? Speaking of real estate, there's no better laugh than a laugh from the toilet. Oh my God. That's such a good call. Oh, tile, a tile of laughs. Yes, yes. You're right, because it's like usually ladies in the bathroom.

1:03:42I also enjoy a laugh that comes from like when you're a little kid and you're sitting on the stairs and there's like a party downstairs. Yeah, yeah. I love the laugh that travels up a stair. Okay. But yes, pervs - She said that as though it's happened recently. Yes. Also, yes. Where your sons are throwing down in the basement. Sorry, but get back to your question. Pervs are welcome, but creeps are not. Okay, yeah. Big difference. Got it. Yes. We've talked about this on here with Ike Barinholtz. Okay. There's a difference between apartment and creep. You know who you are. Yeah. Okay. But you love real estate and design.

1:04:15I do. I do. How would you describe your design sense in a word or two? Depends on the structure. So you go with the place. Like you're listening to the - I go with the - I listen to the place. I walk in and I go, who are the craftsmen? What does this place want to be? Because I love the restoration process. So I feel like that word would be like organic history or something. Wabi-sabi. Wabi. Here we go. Okay. Sleep. What time do you go to bed? Love it. I'm a great sleeper. Of course you are. I'm a great sleeper. I knew you would be. I mean, I try to stay awake until, you know, Lila's in bed because she's a terrorist at night.

1:04:51So I just, if she's out, then I can go to bed. But it's like 10 o 'clock up at 530. That's what a professional does. It is. Pets. How many do you have? I have four right now. What flavors? I have flavors. I have vanilla, peach. chocolate. Do you have chickens? I don't have all my chickens passed away. I have, I have a, um, a somewhat blind poodle. I have a little rescue poodle who has a collapsed trachea because they shoved spoons down her throat to quiet her. She was part of an illegal puppy mill. Oh, bless her heart. At least they have legs. I, we know we had dogs without legs and the kids were like enough.

1:05:30We have mama who is a black feral, somewhat feral cat that was on my property who then brought two baby, like I'm highly allergic to cats. And I was like, I am not bringing a cat in this house. The cats are in the house. So there's two, there's mama and her baby. And yeah, so two gorgeous black cats. My sister calls them the house panthers. I go, that's brilliant. So they're the house panthers. Horses. Do you like them? Love them, but highly allergic. Well, cause I have a theory that the bet, the thicker your hair, the more you like horses. Love them, but I'm highly allergic. My daughter is a great writer.

1:06:01She's, she's, she's knows how to tame the beast. Um, what's a musical artist that your kids got you into? J. Cole. I mean, yeah, it's good. Protein. How do you take yours? How do you get it?

1:06:20Thick. I mean, you set me up. You said, protein, how do you take it? I wasn't even thinking that. What a dirty man. I wasn't thinking that either. I was talking about chicken. I'm talking about yogurt. Salmon, beefy yogurt. Greek yogurt. Thick Greek. Sandy Bull. Zero percent Greek yogurt. Very good. That's what I was talking about. And then like a good pulled chicken salad. And then, you know, the little peptide proteins in the coffee in the morning. I'm always trying to figure out how to get it. I mean, it's like, but are we going to find out like 10 years from now that we've overdone it? Yes.

1:06:51We've grown some like internal like eyes. Yes. And also I always appreciate when it's like, what's another thing I'm supposed to get right? Like, what is another thing I have to do? Good Lord. um okay and then um wait is this all of our speed round questions that's a lot fun okay yeah we're almost done here we go we gotta wrap this up okay um we have places to be and you have talked so much um i'm in a good way i apologize i mean when this festival is over i'm going away for another four years i'm gone promise no please don't we love hearing from you unless i come here i'll just stop here once a year i got something going on or not i just stop that came out the wrong way I mean that you've had to talk so much.

1:07:33Not that you've talked so much here. I love you talking here and have loved it. And so my last question for you is that I ask everybody is, um, what's making you laugh? Like what, but I mean, when you're like at home, you know, what's the thing that you are, you know, it, it, like, where do you go when you need to change the chemistry? inside my head that makes sense because you're so funny it's like it's like nothing makes me laugh harder than louie my son man a few words like like it's like i don't know i don't know and he's like mom yeah it mumbles everything and i can't i can't understand a word i'm like how old is he he's 16 and a half i'm like english but then when he's standing there and he's you know no no smile and he's like you know can i'm gonna have a mug drink i'm like yeah sure and then I get up there and I go, my milkshake brings you, and I'll just start talking and he's just watching it.

1:08:32And then if he smiles, I'm laughing so hard, whether he smiles or not, but like humiliation makes me laugh. If I can humiliate my children in the privacy of our home, not in public, but in the privacy of our own home with a little rump shaking, it's the greatest joy. But that's play. Like you're just playing. I'm playing. Yeah. And also it is, I mean, And I can say this, but you can't, but like, he, like, it's so funny to know that the entire world loves you, Sandy. They feel so connected to you. They've grown up with you. You are their favorite. And yet you cannot get your child to laugh. I cannot.

1:09:11I cannot. It's so funny. And also a great, healthy relationship. Yes. It's very, very healthy. Yes. That's, yes. That's how you want it to be. I am just annoying right now. Totally. To both children, I'm just annoying. That's, that's perfect. That's the perfect way you should be for any team. But I just love talking to you. I knew I would. I didn't want to put too much expectation on us being friends, but I do feel like we've. But you know how nice this is for me? I feel like we're best friends. No, I mean, but I think us not really, I mean, little ships passing in the night, little, you know, but having the opportunity to meet you now at this stage of our life is pretty amazing because everything is all over the place and we're all striving for different things and relationships with kids and dreams and things like that.

1:09:55But to be able to sit here and, and acknowledge like where we are and where we've been in that world, I'm looking at you just going, I'm so glad you are, that you just are. And I'm so glad that you have this, this world that you've created. So we get to come in and experience you in a way that we wouldn't be able to, and you're Like you are, you are one of those that those of us who love comedy do the, like the, the bend. Oh, come on. But you, you have to know that. Thank you for that. To a great many of us. Thank you very much for saying that. So, because it is, it is, it is, it's unmatched. The feeling is mutual.

1:10:39But just shut up and take the compliment for a second. So for you, you allowing. I'm hitting it right back to you, babe. Shut your face. So just, just you inviting. One of us is giving the present and one of us is receiving and I'm giving and you're receiving and you are not giving me a present at the end of this conversation. thank you so much for saying that it means a lot to me and i feel really grateful and this is i'm was very i was a little nervous and i was a little bit shit i'm sorry to hear that no no no in a good way because i was so looking forward to it same i i wanted to kind of temper my expectation because i was like don't come on too strong it's okay if she doesn't become your friend doesn't like you it's okay if she doesn't like you most people don't just relax i mean just walking in and seeing you, you know, was like, I was like, did I just cross a boundary for like throwing my arms around her face?

1:11:25You know, but I, I, I felt very safe here and you make people feel very, very, to me, that is everything. Sandy. Thank you. Really. Thank you so much for doing it. And, um, I adore you. So thanks so much. I now adore you. Oh my God. It was so good.

1:11:44Oh, Sandy Bullock, you are just the best. Thank you so much for coming on. That was such a delight to talk to you. And like everything you do, it was moving and deep and funny and real and authentic. I just love talking to you. And for this polar plunge, I think, you know, Sandy talked a lot about the care that she took of her partner, Brian Randall, who died of ALS. And I think we spoke a little bit about caretaking in general. And I guess I just wanted to take the second to reach out to anybody who is listening today who are in thick of it, who are caretaking currently as we speak or know someone who is stretched thin.

1:12:27We're just sending our love to you. I know Sandy would feel the same. And she said some really amazing things here about making sure to take care of yourself along the way. So reminding you of that message and saying thanks if no one said thanks to you today. Thank you. Thank you for listening. Sandy, thank you for all that you've done and the joy you've given us and continue to give us. And thanks for listening to Good Hang. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite.

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