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28:44And finally, top of this year, I pulled it back out of the vault. Music vault. And I was like, we need to finish this song. Yeah. This one's special. And so I teamed up with Julia Mineta, who I started it with, who worked on a bunch of Sabrina Carpenter stuff last year. He's killing it. And Steph Jones to help finish the lyrics. And then basically we sent it to Mr. Gibb, who had come to shows with his family before and just been the absolute best company and really supported us early in our career and spent some time with our father and talked about the industry and all this stuff. so we got word back within a couple days that it was approved and that they they were excited about the song it was like that's awesome we have a collab with the Bee Gees with Barry I mean the Bee Gees were really big growing up for me and they were like very famous brothers who also like you guys had good hair great hair incredible hair the flow just incredible hair and that's very cool that Barry was he must have been excited about I mean it's exciting for us Interpolation Interpolation So this Yeah the song's Just come out Very excited about it It's a really good Driving song

30:04Off a new album Greetings from your hometown Oh they gave you An old edit too You're listening to This is an old edit? Yeah I mean I guess yeah Use it We gave you an exclusive Well somebody was like I can't understand What you're saying Joe And I was like I can understand What I'm saying And they're like well we can't you have to re-record it so I had to re-record it and on behalf of people that like short concerts we didn't use it we stick to the original because must have been off that email we felt it was it was not it didn't sound as cool as when you were mumbling when you were I'd like to know what you're saying because I can't understand it and I want to sing along I'm saying side to side when your hands Joe does not know what he's singing side to side when you're

30:52You throw some babies and O's in there and it like works. I was just re-listening to Cake by the Ocean the other day actually. And it's also kind of hard to understand what you're saying there, but that worked out just fine. Do you know what you're saying there?

31:06Maybe that's another sign of a good song. If it's a mumbler, it's a worker. Well, I think most people don't know. I constantly will see people in the audience be like, I'm going to mumble, mumble, mumble, and then Cake by the Ocean. That's usually how it goes. Yeah, you just got to get to there. Yeah. Yeah.

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33:32I think that flexibility, being able to pivot, and also having a good sense of humor about yourself is why it's like longevity in the business. And I do feel like you all have that. You just have to keep pivoting and you have to stay kind of flexible and you have to have a good sense of humor about yourself. Did you learn any of that stuff when you were like young? Because a lot of people that come to SNL, if they come from having experience at Disney, we would always say that what they knew how to do really well was work hard and be professional. Like it is, to be professional is, it's a learned skill people don't know how to necessarily show up to a set and figure out how to hit their mark and like how to be prepared like those are learned skills and that was always the case with a lot of musicians who came through the show who had that did you feel like you learned stuff like that there when you were there definitely the thing that disney and working with Disney on, you know, Camp Rock projects or our TV show, what it really taught us was work ethic and the ability to be on a set.

34:37We had, you know, we'd never done anything on a film or TV set. And it's really good training ground. Now, it doesn't necessarily prepare you for like deep character work, but that's not really what it's there to do. It's really fun, entertaining stuff for a certain demographic. And I think, you know, in our, maybe in our like late teens, when we were sort of aging out of playing high schoolers and stuff, and then, you know, obviously in our 20s, there's that moment where you're kind of embarrassed by it. Or you're like, oh, man, we're known for this thing. Thankfully, we've been able to, you know, make career moves and things where we can look back on that fondly.

35:14And I think it marks a chapter in, you know, our fans' life now who have grown up too. And their kids are being introduced to it. And those people, just like the song is for them, those people don't want to feel embarrassed about the stuff they used to like. Yeah. I mean, that's the thing is, like, we all, when we were younger, like, really invested in things at that tender age, and we cared about it. Right. And you guys were around for a lot of people's tender ages, and now everyone's growing up together. And it's like, why do we want to go back and be mean to the younger version of ourselves?

35:49We're just trying to figure it out. Guilty pleasure is a bad word in my house. Ooh. Why? It's two words. It's like it's because it's like you should be allowed. Yeah, yeah, thanks. This is what I deal with constantly. This is brothers. Got them. Yes, Nick, it's two words. Try to come back from that, bro. Like he's literally sweating. He's never going to come back from that. You got this, eldest. Here we go. It's been fun. Thanks. We're with you. Guilty pleasure is a bad word. Guilty pleasure is a bad word. Because guilty pleasure is a bad word. Because words. because it literally is defines who you are.

36:22You could be you should be allowed to like what you like. I totally agree. I love it. I think it's fun to think about when you were a kid the things that you were into and that you still love and there was a season where you were like nervous about it. We used to go on our school bus with CDs and taped cassettes in our hands and back then you'd like kind of be shy to like show what you're listening to. Now it's like through Spotify you can listen to everything and you're like it's everywhere which is nice and it's not like a big deal that you're listening to this style of music and that style of music.

36:51And there's, you know, it goes into other weird things you might be into. Also, in a totally different context, I was having this conversation with some people the other day, which is like, it's so hard to get anything made. Totally. Oh, dude. It's so difficult to get anything made, produced, put on a platform of any kind. Yes. And it just feels like we don't have to use a blanket statement like it's objectively excellent. It can just be good to whoever is receiving it. You're absolutely right. Right, and also don't you feel like now that you've spent 20 years making things that you really are just, I mean, I find myself being way less, I mean, when you're a teenager in your 20s, there's a lot of black and white.

37:29Like, I'll always, I'll never, that sucks, that's great. Totally. You're trying to figure out your taste and who you are. But as you get older, you do, and if you're lucky enough to make things, you really do feel like, oh, there's something interesting there, and I like how that was made, and I know that was hard, and I can figure out that process. And I understand what they were trying to say there, but maybe it didn't hit there. Like, you just understand the complexity of making things. Yeah. It's so different. Can I put you in the hot seat for a second? Always. I have a question about things that you've done, you did, that when you look back on, is there anything like in the moment you're like, this is silly and, you know, people are laughing.

38:09but did it feel like, this is annoying, to be doing this bit that they're enjoying and I'm personally not loving it. I know what you mean. That wasn't the most articulate way. I think especially as an actor, you're worried that the way you enter the business will always be the way that you're seen in the business. And it's like, will I be typecast? I remember when I first started, I was doing all these crazy characters. Like I played this young sister of Conan O 'Brien on like late night with Conan O 'Brien. Like I was like a nut. And then I would get cast a lot as just this like, you know, really like intense person.

38:49And then I did a lot of movies and TV shows where I was an intense person with lots of energy, like just kind of forcing people to do things. And I was good at it. I liked doing it. But then I would worry sometimes, am I just always playing this kind of person? Like, am I always going to be seen as this way? And, you know, even just being like starting in sketch, like it was like, will people just always think of me as this kind of way? And just like you said, it started to become less the thing I worried about and more the thing I was just proud of because I learned so much from it. I got to do so many things because of it.

39:28And as long as you believe that you are not limited, then you're not. you don't have to it's basically just like other people's opinion is none of your business totally it just takes a long time to get there I think actually after I did SNL one time and somebody said it was exactly what I needed to hear it was one of the writers came and said hey just don't try to be funny and I was like oh that's that like hurts in the moment but then it's like but that's so accurate it's funny right So you don't have to jam it to be funny. And it was like so freeing. And then I stopped worrying about like am I being silly or am I being this?

40:09I'm just, you know, saying the words that are already funny. That's the vibe I get from you guys is your confidence and just like goofing around and being funny. And I mean it is. It is. It's just when you get out of your own head and you're just. But it takes some time I think. I think like that's what comes with age. Well, you're in my favorite movie ever. You know that. Okay. Our favorite. He talks about it. They talk about it. It's a framed poster that Nick has in his bathroom. Okay, so I'm going to talk to you about something. So we do this thing at the beginning of each podcast where we talk to people who know our guests, and we kind of talk well behind their backs.

40:46And I get to know the guests a little bit, and I kind of prep for the guests with someone who knows them. So I talked to Jack McBrayer. Okay, I was about to say. Love Jack. He texted me yesterday. Love him. That's funny. Yeah. And he's, you know. I didn't tell me that you spoke to him. He didn't? I have a lot of friends, but there's only one Jack that sends a birthday video to you every year, no matter what. No matter what. On your birthday. And it's like, I have people I see every day that don't do that. He, in fact, when we were talking, he said, I only have one birthday today. And I realized, this is a full-time job to keep up with everybody's birthday.

41:16It's a thing. And people should know, we have the same birthday. We have the same birthday. September 16th. Same year, too. Molly Shannon, same year. Molly Shannon also has the same birthday. Molly Shannon. That's right. Oh. You know, I set up her Instagram. That's amazing. Tell us about that. This is a real story. I forgot about that. That's a great story. We were at Sundance Film Festival, like in 2016 or 17. And we end up at this bar. We're like having a few drinks, talking. She's like, my daughter really thinks I should get on Instagram. Do you know how to do it? I was like, yeah, give me your phone.

41:51And so I set up her thing. And it's like the official superstar is her name. Yeah. Because we were like a few drinks in. And just like, what should we say your name is? It's incredible. stuck. Yeah, I set up. That's cool. And that is very. He's used and he still runs it. And he has the password still. She'll text in photos and videos and say, hey, Nick, can you get this up in the next hour? And Nick's like, I have two shows today. Like, I don't have time for this. She's like, ugh. Damn it, Nick, get it up now.

42:18So Jack is such, like, it just loves you guys so much. And Jack and I laughed because during deep COVID, when no one was going out and everybody was wearing gloves and masks and meeting each other in the driveway. Jack came to my house to have me sign a They Came Together poster for you. That's amazing. The things we do during COVID. Also, like, it's not like I'm... This isn't like a bit. Like, it's legit. It brings me the most joy of any movie I've ever watched. I love that movie. For people who don't know, Paul Rudd and I did a movie that David Wayne directed. So good. That Michael Showalter and David Wayne wrote was a parody of a rom-com.

42:58Yeah. And it's brilliant. Like, it's—I did a movie with Paul last year, which comes out either this—late of this year or next year. And I—the first day on set, I was like, I have to, like, just ask you how this happened. What's the story? And he kind of gave me the lowdown. It was a table read or something. But then, you know, you guys did the movie. But my point about it is, like, it's not just one of those, like, hilarious, quotable movies. It's really smart. And, like, it makes— I feel like it's a lot of the comedy that Tim Robinson's doing now, too. Yeah, like it's sort of ahead of its time.

43:30It's so good. And I do have the signed poster. And Jack didn't remember that he was in the movie. And then we're at a friend's house. Hilarious. At Glenn Powell's house with Cordill Street. I heard. You guys are friends with Glenn Powell. Yeah. And I'm like, have you guys ever seen They Came Together? And everyone's like, no, let's watch it. And Jack's like, oh, I'm in this movie. No, was that real or was that a Jack bit? no I think he legit forgot that he was in the movie he's super famous and he works a lot and he was in like playing basketball he might have forgot that scene is so good there's a hilarious scene in the movie where it's just you know it's that moment in every movie where the men are just trying to figure things out and then each represent like a different point of view I'm the married guy I think you should stay with swish swish they're basically talking about dating and they're just like speaking you know just saying their exposition out loud Now, I'm the guy that doesn't think you should commit.

44:28And they're playing terrible basketball. It's so good. My other favorite scene is when you guys are sitting in the coffee shop. And he's like, all right, I'm on the phone. And you're like, let me try. And you can't do it. When you're ordering the coffee, that's the long thing. He shot that in like 14 days. Do you want to get a monkey with key? I know the whole movie. It's so good. Wait up, would you? That's my favorite bit. Hey, big brother, slow down. Max Greenfield's so good. Okay, so Jack had a question which is so cute, and so Jack, but his question was like, what are y 'all's conflict style?

45:04Like, how do you figure out arguments? Between the three of us. Yeah, like when you argue, some people like to withdraw, some people like to tease, some people like to argue. What is your conflict style? It's interesting. I feel like it ends up being it's some combination of two people are fighting the other is just like sitting back watching and observing that's usually how it is or mediating playing referee or mediating or it's just like go off like do your thing get this out is anyone a yeller? none of us are really yellers we can be like defensive reactive anyone a punisher like a silent treatment person nick a bit a little bit yeah at times I think that's sort of like a, maybe I'm wrong with a retraction.

45:55I think you're just trying to work through it. Work through it, yeah. Not like, I'm not doing it on purpose. Yeah, you're just like, I'm gonna go over here and work, and then I'll come back. Yeah. And we'll talk through it. Yeah. I'm reactive. Ooh. I've always been that way. I try to work on it all the time. The eldest. It's hard. It's my life. You know, that, I wonder if that. It's my struggle. It's my struggle. It's my life. So reactive. Thanks, Bonjo. Reactive. Like, I just snap back, And I don't always mean what I'm saying. Well, you have a tough job. It's very hard. Thank you. I appreciate talking to you so much.

46:23It's so nice. Someone finally gets it. They don't understand. No, I work on it. It's odd. But I also have a very, I have anticipatory anxiety about things. Big word. Yeah, you're killing it on the words. Yeah, you're all over the map today. Right, so you're thinking ahead. Can't count words. That's because, I would argue, you're thinking ahead of like, you're just wanting to make sure like, I'm going to future trip so I can be safe in the future. That's exactly right. And I also, I think through it in the negative. Okay. Because like a little bit of a catastrophizer. Yeah. It's about what would happen if I said this and they're going to react this way and then I go this way.

46:56It's like, it's that. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So I'm dealing with it sometimes. I love that. Your joy. The character. Yeah. I literally just, I'm like, you're saying this. I'm like, oh my God. Your joy. It's like, this is a script. Listen to when I said catastrophe or anxiety. No, it's the whole way you broke that down. to protect yourself. I'm like, this is the plot for Inside Out 2. It's true. It's so good. Inside Out 2 is so good. Inside Out 2 is insane. I watched it with my daughter and we're both crying for different reasons. It's so good. It's incredible. You're in all my favorite movies. Including my Subway commercials that I love.

47:33Thanks. Thanks. Let's give a shout out to Subway while we can and we'd love for them to give us lip-bombs. I literally heard it this morning. Subway as in... Like the sandwich? I was saying, yeah. I heard it this... I heard it... New York City, try it. I'm just trying to get the New York subway up. Yeah. Give them a little bit of a boost. A little notoriety. Yeah. I heard you this morning as I got out of the shower. I was like, I'm going to see her later. But there is something about, I have two sons. I think that relationship with brothers is really, like, really beautiful and cool because exactly what we saw, we just see, like, in this hour is the way you gently tease each other, the way you kind of keep each other.

48:11I got there. I think, sorry. Yeah, no, please. Tell me what you think it is. superstar mom too so that we still do okay what did she do that she I mean four boys in one home she was the boss you know there's just and also understanding how to be nice guys to women and growing up just like I think we we needed a loud voice like her to be able to control us and also make sure that we're like pieces of shit so I think that was important but I think also like yeah brothers are boys are so different than girls. I know. It's like, I watch, like, I watch my kids on the playground and I'm like, it's like delicate and then this kid would be like, and they dive off the top of a slide and you're just like, that is a boy.

48:57Yeah, I mean, your frontal lobes close later. I was just gonna say that. Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.

49:14Like being brothers working together, what is the best part of it? There is a built-in safety net that it's not to say you can't develop with friends and coworkers and all that. But they need nothing from me. I need nothing from them but just real connection and love and respect. And we're family. Like we're blood. So it's just it hits different. It makes every high, super high. makes every low a little easier to navigate. And, you know, the mundane stuff in between becomes even more fun because you get to do it with two people that you not only love and respect, but you genuinely have a good time with.

49:55Yeah. You know, so that's my feeling. That's nice. I mean, I'm the same way. Like, I like to fail or succeed with someone. Yeah. It is amazing. So, last question. what are you guys listening to watching reading playing that makes you laugh these days in these like very difficult times where life is pretty rough and the world is um uh hanging on by a thread yeah what are you what do you do to to like check out or laugh or make yourself i really enjoyed the four seasons show yes i like that a lot um i interviewed will forte on this pod which and Tina I think they're like I love watching them so funny yeah it was great love it so like cozy cozy shows yeah that's not always my I mean I love the studio the studio was great so funny the last two episodes were ridiculous the cast is insane the cast is another level oh my god so good so great it's incredible too I I've just been like I restarted watching all of Nathan for you because I watched I hit the rehearsal which I think is just so brilliant and messed up and insane and he finds the most interesting people it's just so great did you watch the new season?

51:18of rehearsal? I'm watching it right now the second season okay so I it gets me very stressed oh of course I can do it and yeah I have it's just there's like a mirror neuron thing where I get like very nervous he just will keep asking questions and he knows what he's up to I was at a restaurant recently and he I saw him and I when I see somebody that I really like I think I love their work I don't want to say hi but I'll like can I send them a drink or maybe just whatever they're eating and whatever can I send something and I don't need to say hi I'll sometimes try to leave before and I saw him I was like oh my god like I love him I have to like I'm gonna send him I send him a drink him and his friend and about 30 minutes later the waiter brought over a dollop of mayonnaise and handed it to me and they're like this is from Nathan and I look over and he goes and he goes back to this and my friends are laughing so hard I'm like guys he wants don't laugh he wants it so bad and he was really kind of and he walked over and he's like did you get my gift?

52:20The waiter said that she went to the chef and was like she's like I think I may have put my job on the line because I asked for a double mat and the chef was so mad it's a pretty nice restaurant was so mad she's like please please she's like but I think both of you are really great and I just was like this will be a story I can use forever yeah she did it she did that I'm glad she have we learned nothing from the bear we need to give the customer what they want exactly exactly yes chef yes chef and what about you Kev what do you I am currently me and my wife we go through like long form like sitcoms like that that have like 900 seasons we just like start it as like feel good so we're in the middle of Big Bang Theory again just so good love a rewatch a simple rewatch It's a simple rewatch, yeah.

53:05Okay, I'm going to let you guys go. You have two shows. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you so much. That was really, really fun. I love this. It was just a blast. Thank you so much for doing it. What a good hang. It was a good hang. And thank you for singing with me. I feel refreshed. Put that out as a single. Yeah. I love it. And you just talk to people about it. All right, thanks, guys. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you, Jonas Brothers. That was so great. Kevin, Joe, Nick, thank you for being here on a two-show day. And letting us hang with you and watching you hang with each other, you guys are a lot of fun, and I really enjoyed this episode.

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54:28We want the show to be shorter. Yes, there are great artists who have three-hour bodies of work that we should go and see and support, but for the most part, my favorite show is a fast one. You know what I loved? I went to the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago in Los Angeles. I saw Billy Joel. The show was an hour and a half. We all sat down the entire time, and I sang all of his lyrics because he's easy to understand. So thank you, Billy. thank you to everybody who sat down let's just get that, let's normalize sitting down during shows and thank you Jonas Brothers for all the shows you're going to perform all over the world good luck on your tour the Laneige Lip Sleeping Mask has a berry fruit complex which soothes and gently exfoliates flaky skin, revealing smooth and supple lips by morning shop now at Sephora stores and Sephora.com thank you for listening bye you've been listening to Good Hang the executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman and me Amy Poehler.

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