710: Mass Delusion Events

15:43Jason DeFillippo:And by the way, that's not Meta's business model anyways. I know Zuckerberg has this delusion of grandeur. He's Han Solo that way, where he thinks that he comes up with these things. All Meta has done, all Facebook has done since the initial Facebook was buy their competitors and buy into the other technologies. Or steal it. Or just flat out steal it. And that's what he's just going to do with this as well. Yep.

16:17Brian Schulmeister:Louisiana regulators have approved Entergy's plan to power Meta's new$10 billion data center with three massive natural gas plants expected online by 2029. Together, they'll generate 2.25 gigawatts through the facility, though the facility could eventually need more than double that. Now, the deal has stirred controversy with critics warning rate payers could be stuck with the costs of overruns because a$550 million transmission line and decades of carbon emissions come along with that contract. Yeah. So, you know, they're going to roll into town and say, yeah, thanks. We appreciate the business.

16:56Brian Schulmeister:Now, you guys pay for the infrastructure and we'll take all of the benefits. And I'm sure Louisiana taxpayers are really excited to pay for a$550 million extension cord is basically it. And all the shit that it's going to spew in the air because these are gas-powered power plants. Yep. So, yeah. We're all going to die.

17:20Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. How hot is it there again today, Jason?

17:22Brian Schulmeister:It was 107 degrees here yesterday, Brian.

17:25Jason DeFillippo:Interesting. Okay. So more stuff in the atmosphere. Awesome. All right. Well, the other AI thing that's been shoved down our throats recently, we just can't stop hearing about AI-enabled browsers and agentic AI. Agentic AI. Oh, the agentic AI that's going to solve all our problems for us. It's going to save us so much time. We're just going to tell our AI-enabled browser with its agent to go buy us plane tickets and all that sort of crap. And it's going to be beautiful, beautiful, beautiful thing, Jason. Well, no. Nope. A new report suggests that AI also poses a fraud risk from the other direction, easily falling for scams that human users are much more likely to catch.

18:02Jason DeFillippo:This is a report titled Scamlexity, and it comes from a cybersecurity startup called Guardio, which produces a browser extension designed to catch scams in real time. Its findings are concerned with so-called agentic AI browsers like Opera Neon, which browse the internet for you and come back with results. So they're supposed to go out and do all this stuff for you. There's a huge problem here from a security perspective. While humans are not always great at sorting fraud from reality, apparently these agentic AIs are even worse. They tested this hypothesis using Perplexity's Comet AI browser, currently the only widely available agentic browser.

18:36Jason DeFillippo:Using a different AI, they spun up a fake website, pretending to be Walmart, then navigated to it and told Comet to buy them an Apple Watch. It ignored several clues that the site wasn't legit, including an obviously wonky logo and URL, and it completed the purchase, handing over financial details to the fake website. Dope! In another test, the study authors sent themselves an email pretending to be from Wells Fargo containing a real phishing URL. Comet opened up the link without raising any alarms and dumped a bank username and password into the phishing site. They did a third test, which proved Comet was susceptible to a prompt injection scam in which a text box concealed in a phishing page ordered the AI to download a file.

19:15Jason DeFillippo:Now, it's only one set of tests with only one browser, but the implications are sobering, or as I would have said it, and you and I would have said it on this show, this shit's not ready. Nope. Not only are agentic AI browsers susceptible to new types of scams, they are also uniquely vulnerable to the oldest scams in the book. So great. Yeah. Especially since everybody's going all in on agentic AI now.

19:40Brian Schulmeister:It's going to be so much easier to scam people. All you have to do is basically, I mean, you don't have to take over the whole website anymore. All you have to do is get in enough so you can just modify the HTML just a little bit even so it's undetectable by human users or the people who run the website with just a little bit of prompt injection. You can do a whole lot of damage. Yeah. You know, so it's even more insidious than you think if you really want to put your devil cap on, which I always do. Of course you do.

20:10Jason DeFillippo:All right, let's move away from AI for a little bit. Don't worry, it's coming back. The court has blocked the Federal Trade Commission's investigation into Media Matters, the media nonprofit that previously published research showing that ads appeared on X alongside neo-Nazi and other anti-Semitic content. In 2023, Elon Musk filed a lawsuit against the media watchdog following an advertiser exodus. It accused Media Matter of knowingly and maliciously manufacturing side-by-side images depicting advertisers' posts on X Corp's social media platform besides neo-Nazi and white national fringe content.

20:41Jason DeFillippo:Yes, they made that shit up. Just this May, the FTC started looking into whether the nonprofit violated antitrust laws by allegedly colluding with advertisers and advocacy groups to boycott X. They basically said, nope, fuck you. Fuck you, Elon. So there you go. So Media Matters has won this one. And because of the probe, Media Matters had decided, again, pursuing certain stories about the FTC chairman Ferguson and Mr. Musk at the court ruling demonstrated the importance over fighting over folding. So keep at it, everyone. Keep fighting. It's bullshit.

21:14Brian Schulmeister:It is bullshit. Speaking of bullshit, we're just ping-pogging by people who were originally banned from the show when we used to have Moron of the Week. Let's go back to the old friend, the artist formerly known as Kanye West, now known as, I just call him Yee, but it's supposed to be Yee, I know, has launched his own cryptocurrency called Yeezy Coin. West, who recently declared himself a Nazi, and his career has unraveled in recent years, announced the token on social media this week. The coin briefly soared to a$3 billion market cap before crashing to about$1.5 billion. The project's website offers little detail, no white paper.

21:54Brian Schulmeister:Surprising for a Nazi. Where's your white paper? And the usual disclaimers about risk, along with a clause waiving users' right to joint class action lawsuits.

22:08Jason DeFillippo:point to ye point to ye smart my agentic ai bought a few billion of it i know oh well let's go to elon now again the much hyped uh electric car company tesla is now facing a class action lawsuit over claims that it did not deliver some foundation series cyber trucks with the requested roof mounted led off-road light bars despite promotional promises

22:32Brian Schulmeister:He should have talked to Yee and got that class action lawsuit disclaimer and put it on his website. It would have been fine.

22:38Jason DeFillippo:I don't know why all these people are surprised. It is classic Elon. Yeah. Over promise, under deliver. The suit was filed by plaintiff Eric Schwartz in California. He said he paid an extra$20 ,000 for the upgraded light bar, but was instead delivered a truck without one. $20 ,000 for some lights? Yep. Jesus. Go to Home Depot, bud. Yeah. Yeah. Schwartz suit said he tried to resolve the issue by getting a new light bar directly from Tesla, but sued when those efforts failed. His legal team asserts that Schwartz suffered an injury, in fact, because he was not given the product for which he had already paid.

23:12Jason DeFillippo:The lawsuit further alleges that many buyers might not have purchased their Cybertrucks had they known Tesla's advertising about the light bars was misleading and that Tesla had no intention of delivering the upgrade at all. This is at least the third major lawsuit against Tesla that saw major developments this week. On August 20th, the Texas judge allowed a lawsuit against the billionaire to go ahead despite Musk's attempt to quash it. In that case, defendants who gave their personal information to a Musk pack in order to win$1 million in prizes claimed it was an illegal lottery. They have been now granted the right to take their case to trial, with the judge saying he found Musk's legal defense shaky and the allegations persuasive enough to proceed.

23:49Jason DeFillippo:Also earlier this week, U.S. District Judge Rita Lynn ordered the automaker to respond to a class action suit claiming that the company misled consumers regarding the autonomous driving capabilities of its products. Because words matter. Yep. The lawsuit asserts that Tesla hyped up the feature via Musk's comments and on social media but failed to meet these promises of delivering self-driving vehicles. Far for the course. Now let's go over to Google. It's just generally evil instead of just one person. Google has reached a settlement over a lawsuit that claimed it illegally collected data from child users without parental consent through its YouTube video platform and then sent them targeted ads.

24:24Brian Schulmeister:For Meta's AI chatbot to target a kid.

24:28Jason DeFillippo:I know. The tech giant will shell out$30 million to settle the proposed class action suit. Okay,$30 million. All right. That sounds pretty good, right? Sure. According to Reuters, the plaintiff's lawyers say there could be$35 million to$45 million class members. Oh. So less than a buck each. oh well uh i'm in there too uh because uh the time period that they're talking about they they said july 1st 2013 to april 1st 2020 my kid was uh briefly on youtube on his ipad before i took that shit away because it was horrible and started showing like horribly things horrible things to him so anyways uh the settlement amounts to a slap on the wrist compared to the 170 million fine Google faced in 2019, following a similar suit brought by the FTC for alleged violations of the COPA Act.

25:16Jason DeFillippo:Under the terms of that case, YouTube had to agree to stop collecting data on videos aimed at children, and both YouTube and Google were prohibited from future COPA violations. Didn't stop them. Didn't do a damn thing.

25:27Brian Schulmeister:Nope. So let's talk about cars for a second, Brian. Volkswagen is rolling out a new subscription service in the UK, one that lets drivers pay extra to unlock more power from their electric cars. The program applies to VW's ID3 range, where the customers can pay£16.50 a month or£165 a year or a one-time fee of£649 to access the full performance of the motor already in their vehicle that they already paid for. It's a router, not a throttler, Jason. That's right. VW says it's about giving customers more choice, allowing them to upgrade for a sportier drive without paying a higher upfront purchase price.

26:10Brian Schulmeister:The lifetime subscription even stays with the car if it's resold. How great, Brian. You know what stays with my car when I sell it? The engine. Everything, the fucking engine, yeah. Other automakers, including BMW and Mercedes, have already tested similar subscription models and everybody fucking hated them.

26:30Jason DeFillippo:Yes, and they took them away, which the article doesn't note. BMW backed away from that

26:36Brian Schulmeister:real fast they were too busy in in court fighting off that that emissions lawsuit where they were you know so they they missed they they missed the story their lawyers missed the story on that one so they're just getting caught up brian just getting caught up all right

26:51Jason DeFillippo:well you know what really grinds my gears jason so many things brian so many things but one of the things that's really bothered me recently is is the push into gambling like gambling is everywhere now like if you watch apple tv uh when they do their major league uh baseball friday night specials it's they've got betting odds on the goddamn screen the entire time

27:11Brian Schulmeister:it's so funny my dad was even bitching to me about that this week he's like you're not gonna believe all this gambling crap that's getting shoved down my throat he mentioned specifically watching a baseball game and having this crap on there he's like what the hell's going on he was

27:23Jason DeFillippo:watching on apple tv i guarantee you because they fucking flood the fucking broadcast with it and That's bullshit. But oh, good old Robin Hood. Robin Hood has a reputation as a platform where people make wildly speculative investments without sufficient guardrails. And it's only right that they're getting into the sports betting business. Yes, Robin Hood, which was supposed to be just an investment. It's one of the new brands of investment things. Good with the kids. Get them investing early. Do micro shares and all that sort of stuff. Nah, no. They have announced on Tuesday that it is launching prediction markets for college and professional football as part of a partnership with cal sheet according the company will start listing contracts for nfl and ncaa games in the coming days with plans to make each matchup open for two weeks prior to their kickoffs it's a little funny and a lot sad that robin hood is positioning the ability to put your money down on the outcome of football games as investing yeah the reality is robin hood wants you moving your money around because that's how it makes money getting compensated for every transaction that it routes to market makers this is why the app gamifies the experience using dark pattern techniques to keep you betting that you can beat the market.

28:29Jason DeFillippo:But by adding sports betting to the mix, it's making clear that it's as much a casino as a stockbroker. Of course, they disagree with that framing. In their press release, they try to differentiate sports betting from its offerings. Unlike sports bettings, where the firm sets a line, event contracts leverage the power and rigor of financial market structures and are offered in a marketplace where buyers and sellers interact to set the price, it argued. Customers can access the contracts in real time and manage risk by adjusting or exiting their positions up to and throughout a game before the contract expires.

29:02Jason DeFillippo:Shockingly, almost every state disagrees. At least seven states have sent cease and desist orders telling the company to stop offering its prediction markets to their respective residents. These states argue there is no meaningful difference between their sports trading and traditional sports betting, which seems kind of hard to argue. Of course, they will continue to argue. And you know why they're probably going to win the argument, Jason? Why, Brian? Because the company handed a strategic advisor seat to Donald Trump Jr. earlier this year.

29:31Brian Schulmeister:Oh, my God. Yep. What kind of present did you bring me?

29:38Jason DeFillippo:You get to do illegal things and you get to do illegal things and you get to do illegal things.

29:43Brian Schulmeister:Here's the sad part is the states are probably pissed off about it, not because they're looking out for their, you know, their constituents. they're probably pissed off because they get more of a revenue bump if it's actually sports betting. So the sports betting houses probably have to pay more than Robin Hood does in state taxes. That's probably why they're pissed off. So always looking on the bright side. Yes. But Brian, it doesn't matter. Really, nothing matters because Antarctica is changing far faster than scientists once believed. And the world is set to feel the impact. That's right. Water world, here we come.

30:21Brian Schulmeister:Somebody call Kevin Costner. It's time for a sequel.

30:23Jason DeFillippo:But Jason, if all this stuff melts, we have more water so we can cool our processors so we can have more AI.

30:31Brian Schulmeister:See, that's why you're the bright, shining light of this show, Brian. Always thinking of the upside. You all look at this as a bad thing, but think of what Meta can do with that water. Oh, that beautiful, beautiful water. A new study published in Nature warns that the continent's ice shelves, sea ice, and ocean systems are ongoing abrupt and self-reinforcing changes since 2014 antarctic sea ice has been shrinking at double the rate of the arctic threatening species like emperor penguins and leaving ice shelves exposed meanwhile the massive west antarctic ice sheet is losing is losing ice six times faster than in the 1990s raising fear of a collapse that could eventually push sea levels up by more than five meters.

31:15Jason DeFillippo:Wait, faster than the 90s? Are you serious? All that shit about me having to give up my aquanet so I couldn't do my Robert Smith hairdo anymore to save the goddamn environment and now we're losing it anyways?

31:26Brian Schulmeister:Yep. Isn't that a fucking travesty? It is. I could have had great hair all through the 90s. I know. Come on, man. Fucking who needs the ozone? These changes once thought to unfold slowly over millennia are already underway and could accelerate putting coastal communities, wildlife, and global climate stability at risk. Experts say the only way to prevent even more abrupt shifts is rapid, deep cuts to greenhouse gas emissions. Hmm. No.

31:53Jason DeFillippo:Let's talk about, let's cast our minds back to that, all those gas power plants for Meta's $10 billion data center.

32:01Brian Schulmeister:And the ones that are in Elon's plant outside of Memphis. And oh, yeah, yeah.

32:06Jason DeFillippo:All for AI nobody wants.

32:18Jason DeFillippo:Media Candy. I watched the latest Ali Wong comedy special, Ali Wong Single Lady. It was very funny, but nothing can match the Baby Cobra one. That was probably the funniest stand-up I've almost ever seen. Definitely her funniest, but this one's good too. All right. I always forget how dirty she is.

32:40Brian Schulmeister:uh yeah i don't watch it with your parents really okay no worries there uh the institute i talked about it last week that it was starting to stephen king itself kind of made up for it in this last episode episode seven the the penultimate episode the final is this week so uh then we'll find out if there'll be another season then brian can put his theory to actually no we need three seasons before you watch something new yeah i guess that's not gonna happen uh so i i'm still that that episode seven kind of brought it back from the brink so i'll finish watching it um wednesday did you ever watch any more i sneak sneak any more in not yet nope

33:22Jason DeFillippo:i'm looking forward to uh next week when the when we no longer have the second child staying with us

33:27Brian Schulmeister:we will we plan to get into it yeah okay i i i tried to uh pace myself so i i got i mean it's only four episodes right i stopped at three i stopped at three which is for me that's that's saying something you know that took that took some effort i'm actually tempted to wait and to watch

33:45Jason DeFillippo:it around halloween and know that the next four are coming and you know shortly thereafter we'll

33:50Brian Schulmeister:see yeah so yeah we'll see if that holds it's really good though that's the problem it's so

33:56Jason DeFillippo:fucking good oh my god the first episode was great it's taken a lot of self-control not to

34:01Brian Schulmeister:dip back in that's what i'm saying uh well you can watch alien earth which is finally out i can't i don't have fx oh no no fx i will have to go to sweden i will have to go to alien sweden exactly we've always got sweden yeah so it's worth it go take a go take a hike uh so there's an interesting article over at gizmodo saying alien earth is finally doing what the movies have not which is actually bringing the xenomorphs to earth it's uh i'm i'm really digging it i'm on the you know there's the camp that hates it the camp that loves it i'm in the loving it camp

34:36Jason DeFillippo:excellent i mean anything's better than those last two movies no not the last two the last movie was

34:42Brian Schulmeister:really good the last alien movie was good i'm not counting i'm not counting the one where they you know the made for you're talking the romulus yes i'm talking those crappy ones yeah yeah yeah no no no no those expunge those from your memory brian i'm trying i still don't even understand them nobody does nobody does that's the point just just get them out of there and there's another article at gizmodo that uh star trek strange new worlds did a documentary episode that should have been killed in the edit uh did you watch it yet i didn't okay okay yeah i i know what it's

35:18Jason DeFillippo:how it's done i i and i i see that you liked it so that's good yes i i disagree with their with

35:24Brian Schulmeister:their take on it i thought it was a a fine episode and it the real trick is it's a way to mask what could have been a subpar episode with a stronger storyline and merge the two and come out with a stronger episode i think that's what they did and i really liked it so that's that that was my take uh i'm definitely uh definitely on board with it i thought it was a clever way to to do an episode because it rolls in everything that they've been doing for the past couple episodes with the documentary kid going around with his little drones it all it all it puts it together with a

35:55Jason DeFillippo:nice bow yeah okay well i mean they couldn't just drop that they've had this kid there the whole time you've got to you got to pay that off so yeah yeah but you know good for them for setting

36:05Brian Schulmeister:it up properly instead of just you know you know battle star galactic in it and go well we had a plan we had the fucking kid in the drone whatever he's a he's a zombie okay wait wrong episode we had zombies the other episode oh um and sad news karen gillen has joined uh the new highlander this i i'm upset because they just keep making the cast better which means they're gonna have

36:31Jason DeFillippo:to watch it.

36:32Brian Schulmeister:I know they're making the cast better and it's just setting me up for so much disappointment because Highlander is one of the greatest movies ever made. And there can be only one. Yes, exactly. So and finally in Media Candy there's a new podcast called the Anonymous Podcast, which I may or may not have anything to do with because it's called Anonymous. It's about addiction and recovery. There will be a link in the show notes to go check it out. It's real stories from real people about their real problems. So check it out. That's all I can say because it's called the anonymous podcast. I can't really go much from there.

37:06Brian Schulmeister:Check it out. Who's on it? Can't tell you. Can't tell you. Caps and doodads.

37:13Jason DeFillippo:Well, if there's one thing I've been admin about with my kid, it's he is never, ever, ever going to fucking play Roblox. Probably wise. They've had a lot of problems. Following a wave of lawsuits alleging that Roblox doesn't provide a safe environment for its underage users, the gaming platform made a series of sweeping updates to its policies. They published a post on their website detailing these major changes, including restricting all unrated experiences, which is what Roblox calls its user-generated games, to the developer or those actively working with them. They say this change will roll out in the coming months, representing a big shift from its previous policy that allowed users 13 or older to access unrated experiences.

37:51Jason DeFillippo:To prevent any further inappropriate behavior, any social hangout experience that depicts private spaces like bedrooms or bathrooms will be limited to ID verified users who are 17 or older because

38:03Brian Schulmeister:that's been working so well everywhere else in the everywhere else in the world they will also

38:09Jason DeFillippo:restrict social hangout games that mostly take place in those previously mentioned private spaces or adult only places like bars or clubs to users who are at least 17 and have been ID verified which makes me wonder Roblox is for kids why the fuck do you have this anyways how about you just ban all that stuff or spin off a different game.

38:28Brian Schulmeister:No money, money, money.

38:30Jason DeFillippo:Oh yeah, that. To assist with the new rules, they will roll out a new tool that automatically detects violative scenes or more simply user activity that goes against its rules. Want to bet that's AI that's not going to work really well? Yep. According to their new policies, a server that hits enough violations will automatically get taken down and we'll have to work with the Roblox team to adjust the experience to get it back online. Any assertion that Roblox would intentionally put our users at risk of exploitation is simply untrue said the company that has 17 plus spaces on their fucking thing for kids no system is perfect and bad actors adapt and evade detection including efforts to take users to other platforms where safety standards and moderation practices may differ all right but that's all your platform we're talking about yeah okay cool yeah cool cool

39:16Brian Schulmeister:yeah i'm gonna let my kid sign up now nope flipper zero that cool little uh hacker tool Yeah, don't you have one? Ethical hackers? Yeah, that's been sitting in my drawer for ages because I don't leave the house, so I've got nothing to hack, which is the problem. You can hack your own car, Jason. I did hack the parking system at my last place when I had the studio. They had little key cards to get in and out of the parking lot that you had to pay for. I still paid for it, but I actually used it to hack it in case I lost my card. I just wanted to see if I could do it. Right. It worked. I could. All right.

39:50Brian Schulmeister:But yeah, now I just never want to go back in that building. So, fuck it. So here's what the problem is now. The Flipper Zero can now be supercharged with underground software patches that let it unlock cars from major brands, including Ford, Volkswagen, Hyundai, Kia, Subaru, and Audi. That's right. Custom firmware sold for hundreds to thousands of dollars in crypto allows the device to intercept a car's key fob code and predict the next one, effectively creating a shadow copy of the key.

40:21Jason DeFillippo:What have we always said? What's the main purpose of cryptocurrency, Jason?

40:25Brian Schulmeister:Crime. That's right. Oh, man. So there's videos out there already. And the tool so far has been limited to paying customers, but cracked versions are starting to circulate for free on Discord. That's right. raising fears it could soon fuel a nationwide wave of thefts. Experts warned there's little drivers can do, as many cars remain vulnerable, even those with rolling code protections. One hacker summed it up bluntly. Kia boys will be flipper boys by 2026. Great. Awesome. Way to fuck up a good thing. Oh, well, I'm hanging on. I looked at the list. A lot of them are older cars. It's not like the newest, latest and greatest.

41:10Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, because we all buy a new car every year.

41:12Brian Schulmeister:That's right. That's right. Fortunately, Jeep is not on that list, so I can sleep at night. Apple has released new public beta firmware for AirPods Pro 2 and the just announced AirPods 4. I have been trying and trying and trying to get my AirPods to update to this fucking beta, but have not been able to do yet. I followed all the instructions. That's the one big issue with AirPods and the firmware updates. It's kind of like at the whim of the ghost of Steve Jobs whenever it wafts through the room and blesses you with a firmware update. Well, here are the five AirPods upgrades coming in iOS 26, which I've actually been running iOS 26.

41:53Brian Schulmeister:And it's finally to the point where it's pretty decent. It's not great, but it's pretty decent. Automatic pausing when you fall asleep. Studio quality audio recording, which is the one I am dying to get. Camera remote, which I thought we used to have. I thought you used to be able to set that up. Automatic switching for CarPlay and enhanced voice quality on calls, which would be okay. Because, yeah, calls kind of sound shitty. The automatic pausing when you fall asleep. I don't know about you, but I can't sleep in AirPods at all. No, I can't either. No. I can't come off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I – yeah, I mean it's – that's a novelty feature.

42:31Brian Schulmeister:The studio quality audio recording is the one that is the thing for me. I was really hoping this was going to have that live real-time translation that they've been talking about in the news. Yeah, that's what I want. Because that's going to be cool. Yeah, me too. I really want to know what the fuck my gardener is saying about me. I really want to know. I would like to have that before I go to Paris. Oh, yeah. When are you going to Paris? This is new. I didn't know you were going to Guy-Paris. Oh, in November. Oh, okay. Well, guess I'll be looking for a co-host for the week. Yep. Shit. I was scrolling through Instagram the other day, doom scrolling as it were, and I ran across this ad and I thought it was a joke.

43:08Brian Schulmeister:It's basically somebody was, it looked like they were holding a flip phone and using a stylus on it, but it wasn't. It's actually a watercolor kit. They have a water pen and some colors at the top and at the bottom is a notebook. so it looks like you're on a phone it's got the same same size but you're actually drawing and it looks adorable i don't know if you've checked it out but the video makes it i'm just like who would oh oh people who want to get off their phones but can't this is like um the methadone for people who are trying to get off their phones and holding something in their hand and and you know getting around staring at a phone all day you can actually create something so i thought it was very cute

43:48Jason DeFillippo:This is going to be an excellent Christmas gift. Yes. I'm going to get this for quite a few people, actually.

43:55Brian Schulmeister:Yep. Well, it's on sale right now, so go pick up a couple of them. Yep. So it's priced at$34 during a limited summertime sale.

44:01Jason DeFillippo:All right.

44:02Brian Schulmeister:Cool. Yeah, it looks cool. That's all I got to say. For shit that's offline, I like it. I'm absolutely getting this for my kid. It's fantastic. So I said I was on iOS 26. Unfortunately, on iOS 26, my favorite nap app, Paziz, which I've been using since System 8 on the Macintosh. I was using this before I moved to California in 1995. So I've been using Paziz since like 1994. So almost 30 plus years.

44:33Jason DeFillippo:Well, the reality is, though, that you were mostly using alcohol to fall asleep back then.

44:38Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, back then, for sure. I was actually using it to get over hangovers is what it was the best thing for. But now I take naps often because I'm an old man and I have traumatic brain injuries and I need to nap. Unfortunately, Pazist doesn't work on my phone anymore. But I did find out that it does work on the Mac, which makes me very happy. So I have an M4 Air. You can download it to the Mac. You can install it on the Mac and it works just fine. So I just I'm sad because I just don't think that that thing is dead man walking. It's been dead man walking for so long. I don't think they're going to update it anytime soon.

45:17Brian Schulmeister:So but that got me to my nappy time ritual. And it reminded me of the Marpock dome. Remember those? We got a case of them from when somebody at Marpock heard the show 10 years ago. And I had a fucking crate of these these things, these noise machines that I couldn't give away for like five years. Show fans got them. Family members got them. You want one? You want one? It was like Oprah. Well, they've rebranded now. So they're still around, but you can find them at Yoga Sleep. I have the Dome Connect, which lets me use the Bluetooth from my phone to turn it off and on when I'm napping. Still love this thing.

45:55Brian Schulmeister:It is hands down the best thing you can buy if you have a noisy room or you just want white noise to sleep. Do you still have one? Do you use one?

46:02Jason DeFillippo:I still use the very small, the Electrofan Micro 2, because it's great for travel. We have one in my kid's room, and we have one in our room. I can throw it in my backpack when we travel. It's fantastic.

46:15Brian Schulmeister:All right. Yeah, the one that I have, you actually use as real air to make the noise. It's a big fan box. Right. So you can adjust the tone by twisting the things. It's pretty cool. In my last app this week, I got Stress Watch, an AI stress monitor. It's a heart rate variability and habit tracker for the Apple Watch. Well, here's the thing about Stress Watch. The company's name that makes it is called 100 Bad Ideas Limited. Kudos for the name. Kudos for the name. Stress Watch actually does exactly what it says it's going to do. Stresses you out? It monitors your stress and alerts you when your stress is getting in the red line.

46:55Brian Schulmeister:The thing is, it works so well that it beeps when I'm so stressed and I don't want to fucking hear from it. I'm like, yes, I know I'm stressed. I know that I'm pissed off right now. Thanks for telling me, you asshole. And they want me to pay for like 20 to 30 bucks a year to tell me I'm pissed off and stressed. I'm like, I got that covered. So this is.

47:17Jason DeFillippo:You got to remember this thing's on if you go play poker.

47:20Brian Schulmeister:Oh, yeah, for sure.

47:22Jason DeFillippo:Or you're in a negotiation with anybody.

47:23Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Yeah. You don't want that thing popping off. So you've got 99 bad ideas to go. All right. This was I thought it was going to be a great, great idea. But I'm like, no, it's just telling me what I already know that I need to calm the fuck down.

47:44Brian Schulmeister:The Dark Side. Ha! With Dave.

47:51Brian Schulmeister:Hi, Dave. Dave. Well, hello. I was going to give you a lovely introduction today, but ElectroCat over on our Discord channel started to use some AI and write some things about your lovely hosts here. So I thought we would kick off today with your intro that AI, I mean, Brian and I were just a bunch of assholes. I'm basically Clippy if Clippy had a nicotine habit in a podcast, Mike. Okay.

48:20Jason DeFillippo:I'm meh in human form. Oh, all right.

48:22Brian Schulmeister:Wow. Let me have it. I'm ready. All right. Dave is the straight man of the group. If straight here means bland to the point of vanishing, he sounds like he was genetically engineered to narrate insurance disclaimers. He's so reasonable, balanced and polite that next to Jason and Brian, he comes across less like a host and more like the designated driver who never wanted to come to the party in the first place. If beige carpeting could sigh, it would sound like Dave. You got the best line. You got the best one. The beige carpeting could sigh. So good.

48:52Jason DeFillippo:Apparently there's a roast mode on some of these GPTs, and it's gone quite viral.

48:59Brian Schulmeister:No, no. I like it. Can you paste that in the script, please? I want to use that as a badge of honor. Sure thing. I'll drop all three of ours. I got it. I've already got it copied. By the way, not at all inaccurate. I think it's pretty dead on. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine.

49:18Jason DeFillippo:They're fun.

49:19Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. So good. So good. So before we dive into anything, I want to go back to the old days when we talked about security here because I got something really fun. OK. My roommate got a letter this week in the mail here. Actual paper made from dead trees from Wong and Beffa Law. It says, I hope this letter finds you well. My name is Mr. Philip Wong and I am principal attorney at Wong and Beffa Law, a distinguished law firm based in Canada. Please accept my apologies for the unexpected nature of this correspondence. I understand that there has not been prior communication between us. There is an unclaimed permanent life insurance policy held by our deceased client.

50:03Brian Schulmeister:Oh, there it is. I am reaching out to discuss a sensitive and insignificant matter concerning an unclaimed permanent life insurance policy from one of our late clients. Yeah. Who unfortunately passed away in the year 2020 due to COVID-19 outbreak. Yes, due to COVID-19 outbreak. Dr. Blank, a respected stockbroker and retired CPA, left behind a payable on-death savings account valued at approximately$11 ,550 ,300. You have my attention. Despite exhaustive efforts, we have been unable to locate any living relatives or claimants to her estate. According to regulations set forth by the insurance company, unclaimed policies must be surrendered to the state's abandoned property division after a period ranging from three to five years post-notification.

50:52Brian Schulmeister:And it just goes on and says, proposal details, charitable donation, 10 % of the retrieved funds will be allocated to various charity organizations. And distribution, the remaining 90 % of the funds will be equally shared between us. right so then it goes on and says uh for further information to or to discuss this matter in detail please do not hesitate to contact me via email and it says philip wong info at gmail.com or you can cc a copy to philip at wong befa law.com your earliest response to this matter would be highly appreciated best wishes philip wong attorney at law so it's on really cheap paper and then i went and i got the actual envelope out of the garbage after she sent it and this did come from canada from uh ontario so uh right now they're mass producing these things and sending them out because i did a little research aka googling um the old school way and i turned off the ai shit but this is this is a a very current scam that uh is is going around They said, screw the internet.

52:01Brian Schulmeister:We're going back to paper. Old school. Yeah. Get the old people.

52:04Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

52:04Brian Schulmeister:And there's another one too that we know somebody who got one. And we also know somebody through a friend of a friend who got dinged on this one. They're sending out mortgage notifications that your mortgage has been bought by a new company. And here are the new payment details is where you need to start sending your mortgage payments to. Oh, wow. That's a good one. People have done that based on the letterhead because all that information is public and they're just sending out blanket actual official-looking notifications. So now we've got to worry about the fucking mail too.

52:38Jason DeFillippo:Man, when the spam filters work too well, you've got to pivot. You've got to pivot. That's right.

52:43Brian Schulmeister:That's right. That's true. Yeah. I think – what are the – the term of art for that first scam, I think it's a treasure box scam. and they go back to the 1800s or even earlier. Like it's an old pirate type of scam. We've got treasure here and let's split it, but first I need you to offer up something in good faith is usually the way it works. Yeah, they do that with diamond rings at gas stations with drifters too. Oh, yeah. Same premise, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. The mortgage scam caught my eye because I'm coming up on a mortgage transaction where we're going to be selling my parents' house in the next couple of months.

53:28Brian Schulmeister:So I'm hypervigilant about all of the potential scams around settling a house because there are many. There are many. Yeah, be vigilant for sure. Yeah, it's scary out there. Well, I put another article in here because it's about Disney and you guys are the Disney guys. So it's about the rock and roller coaster makeover on the thing. We finally have at least a little bit of a teaser on Instagram. So did you guys get a chance to check out? Did you guys first know any of this ahead of time? Yes. Yes. We knew that rock and roller coaster was being converted to electric mayhem. But other than that, we didn't know anything else.

54:14Brian Schulmeister:And these are new details. Okay, we got new details. Yeah, I've seen a couple of images that they've posted to about it. Seems to me like not surprisingly.

54:24Jason DeFillippo:I did not expect Get Them to the Greek to be the plot for the roller coaster.

54:29Brian Schulmeister:I thought that guy was canceled. I mean, unsurprisingly, they're changing as little as possible. Yes. Right?

54:39Jason DeFillippo:Yes. They're changing the facade, which is exactly what they did with Splash Mountain.

54:44Brian Schulmeister:Right. Right. Yes. Yes.

54:46Jason DeFillippo:It's the exact same ride. They just changed the dressing around. Yeah.

54:50Brian Schulmeister:They're going to add Muppet stuff, which I'm okay with. And it'll still be a really fun ride. And we'll see what, if any, magic and Easter eggs they put in here. But I would love to see them turn that whole corner of the park into a new Muppet area. There's a theater next door right now where they're doing a villains show. I would love to see them put Muppet Vision 3D into that theater. It's smaller than the original Muppet Vision 3D theater. So maybe that could happen. And then do a conversion of the Tower of Terror, Muppetize that the way that they did the alteration of it for Guardians of the Galaxy out in California.

55:34Brian Schulmeister:Why not have a little Muppet corner over there? That'd be nice.

55:37Jason DeFillippo:Muppet land.

55:38Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. They won't.

55:40Jason DeFillippo:What's wrong with Muppets?

55:42Brian Schulmeister:they won't but a guy can dream actually my wife and i just scheduled a trip to disney world in october uh this will be our first uh just the two of us trip without our kids since i think we had

55:56Jason DeFillippo:kids right so yeah that'll be fun yeah we're looking forward to it we we used to go as a couple before we had kids pretty regularly and it you know obviously it's a lot different when

56:08Brian Schulmeister:It's just the two of you and you can set your own pace and not have to worry about who's hungry or thirsty or sunburned.

56:15Jason DeFillippo:You get to hang out at the restaurants and have a few extra cocktails. Be nice. Yes. Yes, exactly.

56:22Brian Schulmeister:And that is a priority. And it turns out it will be the Epcot Food and Wine Celebration Festival. Oh, I've always wanted to go to that. Yeah. I'm very jealous. Nice. We were at that one year several years ago and it is fun. Yeah. So we'll look forward to that. I'm due for a vacation, and I'm hoping that we find the same thing that you did, Brian, in California, that the crowds will be down because nobody wants to come here.

56:53Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. I mean, I think you've got double the action going on with Florida because, first off, you've got non-USA people are not coming. And then, look, I'm hesitant to go to Florida as a blue Californian. Florida? No, I'll pass. I'll just go to the other parks. Thanks.

57:12Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll have a chance to check out Epic Universe. Excellent. Look forward to that. I put something here in the script just to follow up to our little home portable emulation game playing devices, that there is a new one that is designed to run everything from the DS, which the big deal here is it has two screens like the DS does. so rather than uh having your screens run side by side in emulation you can actually have two screens the way a proper uh ds has one so it's cute i like it it's cute yeah it's expensive it's very expensive yeah yeah yeah starts at 400 bucks goes up to 600 or 719 dollars 759 Oh, my God, it keeps going.

58:03Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. $759 for the 16 gigabyte plus one terabyte limited edition gray. So, yeah. But it looks cool. I like it. Not going to buy it, but. Yeah.

58:15Jason DeFillippo:It's more expensive than the new Nintendo Switch 2. Oh, yeah.

58:19Brian Schulmeister:It's more expensive than my PS5 was. It's pretty pricey, but very cool. By the way, Jason, are we pushing back another week, the review of the new camera? Oh, yes, we are. Okay. I figured. I'm sorry. I should have just been polite and not said anything.

58:38Jason DeFillippo:No, it's more amusing to point it out. Trust me.

58:41Brian Schulmeister:Yeah.

58:42Jason DeFillippo:That's okay.

58:43Brian Schulmeister:It's all right. It's been too hot to go outside. Oh. If only they worked indoors. Well, the people that I need to go interview are outside. I have to leave the house. Okay. The dogs won't sit still long enough to get properly interviewed.

58:56Jason DeFillippo:That's what masking tape is for.

58:58Brian Schulmeister:And puppets.

59:03Jason DeFillippo:all right moving on before he yells at us uh i i actually put this bit in here for a reason i i actually had a question i'm guessing that for all three of us peanuts was a big part of our our childhood and i don't mean the food i mean charlie brown snoopy etc yes yeah that's true

59:21Brian Schulmeister:no no really peanuts hated it well no it doesn't matter whether you liked it or not you were

59:27Jason DeFillippo:exposed to it i was aware of it yeah i was aware of it yeah okay yeah that's what i thought well apple is making good on its promise to release new peanuts content with today's premiere of snoopy presents a summer musical it's the first peanuts musical in 37 years with the last one being way back in 1988 again you know i would have been what 15 in 88 so yeah big part of my childhood was peanuts specials like the great pumpkin charlie brown all that sort of stuff right um so there's

59:54Brian Schulmeister:Arbor Day, Charlie Brown.

59:57Jason DeFillippo:And apparently they're going to do more. They're doing a new feature-length Snoopy movie later as well. Snoopy Presents Summer Musical is now available for streaming on Apple TV+. I was curious because I know that this is obviously something that was big for all of us in terms of timing as children. But Dave, were your kids ever into any of this stuff? Because I know mine is not. He has not really seen any of this stuff when it's come up. He hasn't been terribly interested in it. Peanuts has not been a part of his childhood in any way, shape or form.

1:00:29Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it is. We watch the Christmas special every year. It's part of our normal Christmas routine. We all enjoy watching that one. Probably the best. And then we also watch the Thanksgiving one, which we enjoy. And part of the joy in watching the Thanksgiving one is making fun of the overt racism that happens at the Thanksgiving dinner when Franklin has to sit by himself on the other side of the table.

1:01:01Jason DeFillippo:Yes.

1:01:04Brian Schulmeister:But it's of its time. I am not a fan of The Great Pumpkin. my wife and my son both enjoy it but the whole thing with snoopy being the in crossing the the french lines during the war and all that i just don't enjoy i find the tedious but um and i will also add that there are a lot of really bad charlie brown specials yes they pump those things out yeah Yeah, they really did. Do you remember Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown?

1:01:38Jason DeFillippo:I do. I do. In fact, I have a vivid... Is that the Running Man version? What? Yeah, there was three boobs on Sally. It was crazy.

1:01:47Brian Schulmeister:Again, Total Recall, not Running Man. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Race for Your Life. Those are theatrical movies.

1:01:55Jason DeFillippo:I have a vivid memory of being dropped off at a community center and watching it with about a, you know, you know the hundred other like six or seven year old kids yeah right right and then uh there was

1:02:07Brian Schulmeister:another one uh that i remember snoopy come home i believe it was called a real um tearjerker because uh snoopy runs away yeah and uh i think that's the one where you learn about snoopy's origin story about the little puppy farm that he came from and but it's a yeah it's a real real tearjerker because charlie brown of course is upset that snoopy's gone i do remember having the 45 for snoopy versus the red baron which was a rocking rocking song oh yeah yeah yeah yeah good song that's about it yeah well i guess they're trying to make a app now that apple tv

1:02:42Jason DeFillippo:has the rights they're trying to make a big uh peanuts comeback so we'll see what happens but i thought it was a good intro for our much threatened aging discussion because this is definitely from our childhood.

1:02:52Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it is. And before. Yeah. So the thing I wanted to talk about when it comes to aging is...

1:03:09Jason DeFillippo:Sorry, I had a little van nap.

1:03:12Brian Schulmeister:Right. Jason, feel free to go outside and yell at some clouds. I'm just waiting for the carpet to start talking to me.

1:03:24Brian Schulmeister:I have had this feeling lately, and I'm curious if it's just me, if I'm over reading into things, if I'm on base or off base. But my sense is that at the age that we are at, and I'm the oldest of the three of us, I feel as though the major problem with maintaining close friendships these days is that nobody has time.

1:03:58Brian Schulmeister:that my feeling is you used to say, what are you doing later tonight? Hey, what are you doing this weekend? And people would say, oh yeah, sure. I'll come over. Should I bring a pizza? Great. Okay. Super. I'll see you Friday night. I'll see you Saturday. Now, if I ask a friend, do you want to get together? They're like, yeah, let's get our calendars out and see what next month looks like. Right. And literally, that's what it's like. It takes weeks to get somebody on the schedule. And I'm just wondering if everybody is feeling overscheduled in this way. I'm not sure if this is just a natural thing of getting older.

1:04:39Brian Schulmeister:I'm trying to think back of my parents' own relationships and the friendships that they had. And did this happen to them? Does your socializing automatically change as you get older and you just don't see as many people as often.

1:04:54Jason DeFillippo:So my parents got together with their friends all the time.

1:04:58Brian Schulmeister:Yeah.

1:04:59Jason DeFillippo:So that it's definitely different. I, I, I experience exactly what you're talking about, but for me, it's a very strict line between my friends who have kids and my friends who don't. And the majority of my friends who do not have kids are, are in Los Angeles. So obviously I don't see them much anymore, given that I'm a six hour flight away from them. but uh seeing when i'm in town seeing them is easy they do not have kids and they are at a bar and i just have to go to said bar right and i will see them and we will drink beers and watch sports and things of that nature my friends who have kids we all do feel over scheduled all the time be it uh because there's there's no free play for kids anymore so i think for my parents it was i would just disappear with my bike and go down the street and be gone right um but for our kids these days, everything is scheduled play dates or activities or, you know, I have a massive schedule.

1:05:54Jason DeFillippo:In fact, I'm waiting for my wife to finish booking because our school year hasn't started yet. It starts in two weeks. So then we'll have, I will get the master schedule and I will know, you know, basically I'm free on Wednesday night. And I see a couple of my guy friends here probably once a month we go out to dinner on whatever day that we've all scheduled to be free because we don't have kids activities.

1:06:18Brian Schulmeister:Jason is the designated childless member of this trifecta. What's your take? Yeah. And when I try and hang out with people with kids, it's ridiculous. Our friend Brian lives across the street and I see him like maybe once or twice a week when we just happen to be walking dogs past each other at the same time, because it's impossible to schedule anything. And I, my evenings are taking up with meetings of other kinds. So I have my, you know, That's all my free time. But yeah, I, you know, I don't have any friends, so it doesn't really matter. Nobody fucking likes me, so it's fine. I sit at home with a dog and watch TV.

1:06:56Brian Schulmeister:Do we think it's the kids that is the differentiator here?

1:07:01Jason DeFillippo:I think it's, well, there's the kids thing. And then there's also, I think people have gotten overburdened and overstimulated in day-to-day life. I think, you know that that's just a result of moving to this digital age that we've gone to where the lines between work and work and personal life have blurred um you're so easily accessible from emails and from texting and things of that nature and texting is is is kind of the devil to some degree i i was guilty of that for many years i mean even pre-kid um where i would just uh i just get too lazy to go out and i would just text my friends and that would be a conversation as opposed to getting together and meeting at the bar and talking to each other or whatever.

1:07:45Jason DeFillippo:So I think some of it is the ease of digital communication, which, you know, that takes the place of, that has taken the place in many, for many people of getting together in person. You know, I'll just check in, we'll have five minutes of text conversation back and forth and boom, I've caught up with my friend, John, done. So as opposed to getting together. And I do think we're all burnt out. We're all burnt out and we're tired all the time. And that's doom scrolling. And that's just constant barrage of information and everything that happens with us in this digital age now.

1:08:19Brian Schulmeister:Also, the overabundance of home entertainment is ridiculous. Netflix has made it easy to say, yeah, easy to be lazy. It's easy to be lazy. That is the softer and easier way. I'm just like, you know, it would be really cool to see you. But what I can do is sit on the couch and press a button and turn my head off for about three hours and then go to bed and then wake up tomorrow and do the same thing over again. It's just Groundhog Day.

1:08:46Jason DeFillippo:And, you know, we do also slow down with age. I think about things like concerts, like I love live music, but I don't go to anywhere near the amount of shows that I used to. And I could blame that on the kid, but it's not like I can go out because the concerts are after he's in bed and my wife will be fine. Just like, OK, you go to this show. I'll go to the next show. So we just don't go as much anymore. And I think that's just age. Yeah. I'm fucking tired.

1:09:11Brian Schulmeister:I'm just fucking tired. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think, I think it's, there are all, it's all of those things in, you know, in concert that, that has gotten us to where we are right now. And yeah, my dad would always go out when, when I was living with him, he would just, you know, take me with, cause I was like, you know, 15 or whatever. And we would go out and we would see his friends and go places and do picnics on the weekends. And we would do shit because it's like there was no entertainment. Right. You had cookouts. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Alf was during the week. During on the weekends, we're like, let's get out of here and go do something.

1:09:48Jason DeFillippo:We still try to do that with our friends here in Toronto. Like we will do. We always do like a summer barbecue thing where we invite all of our friends over and with or without kids. Everybody can come and grill stuff for them. and we try to do something in winter before we leave for our winter breaks. But that's like twice a year, you know? That's kind of it.

1:10:09Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, I guess I'm struggling at reaching necessary acceptance with this, that this is the way it is. Like, I can't change it.

1:10:20Jason DeFillippo:It's not the way I thought it would be. That's for sure. Like, I think back to my friendships that I had in high school and college and how I hung out with my friends. I just assumed that would always keep on being the way things were. And it's definitely not.

1:10:34Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, that's true. That's true. And I guess everybody's in the same boat and everybody's tired and everybody's burnt out and everybody's overscheduled. And I don't think it's a lack of desire. Like when I talk to people about it, friends who are like, I would love to see you. I'd love to spend more time together. There's just no time. Yeah.

1:10:57Jason DeFillippo:And there is time, but there isn't. I think I'm just imagining, I'm thinking back to myself just pre-summer. It's like, yeah, I could go out tonight, but I've already run errands during the day. I've cooked dinner. I've taken my kid to his tennis class. I've come back. I've done 19 things already today. I don't have the mental capacity for a 20th. And I guess I'm just not making it priority because I have so many other things that I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah.

1:11:27Brian Schulmeister:Well, maybe when the kids are out and I'll be dead because I had them late.

1:11:32Jason DeFillippo:That's true.

1:11:34Brian Schulmeister:You front loaded your freedom.

1:11:35Jason DeFillippo:I did. And boy, did I use it. I'm not regretting it at the moment, but. Yeah.

1:11:43Brian Schulmeister:That's funny. Yeah. Cause you know, my youngest just graduated high school. So So that's a whole – that's a different type of new zone of life to be in. You're an empty nester. Well, let's not be hasty. You should be – you're pushing him out the door to be an empty nester. Yeah. He would really like to be an empty nester. He realizes how good he's got it with a full fridge and a –

1:12:12Jason DeFillippo:Oh, God.

1:12:12Brian Schulmeister:I don't think my kid's ever going to move out. Yeah. Yeah.

1:12:16Jason DeFillippo:You're going to be looking at us like you guys leave. Just come do all the laundry and make sure the fridge is full.

1:12:21Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Can I buy you a timeshare? Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, I appreciate the concurrence on my suspicions. I can't say it's really a happy answer because it's not a satisfying answer in that.

1:12:38Jason DeFillippo:Do you notice a difference between gender? Like I noticed my wife is definitely better at getting out to see her friends. She does it a lot more often and it kind of reminds me like, oh yeah, I should reach out to my friends. We haven't had dinner in a while. Is your wife better at it or are you both kind of in the same boat?

1:12:54Brian Schulmeister:uh i'd say she's a little better at it than i am um but i would say there is definitely out and and but my wife is uh very tomboyish and um has been sort of holding back socially just on her own so but i i think you're right that there is a gender component to this i i think that my friends who are women do get together organically a lot more than the men do.

1:13:26Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

1:13:27Brian Schulmeister:And I also wonder, like, I'm not a sports ball guy. So is there that I'm not a bar guy? Yeah. So, you know, take those two out of the equation.

1:13:38Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, because that's definitely the simple that's the simple one for guys. It's it's super easy. And that happens with my friends here in Toronto, even the ones with kids occasionally. It's just like, oh, there's a super big soccer game on this weekend. Let's meet up somewhere to watch it. It's easy to do. But I do think that women are much better at taking care of themselves, and they're more social creatures. And we hear a lot about the male loneliness epidemic, and it's kind of on us because we do not make the effort often.

1:14:07Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, I think that's true. Well, I still love you guys.

1:14:10Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, we'll have to have our Grumpy Old Geeks barbecue. We'll plot out the exact center point between all three of us and all to hop on flights.

1:14:20Brian Schulmeister:Maybe we can meet at Four Corners, you know, the place where the four states come together and bring a hibachi and get arrested by the Park Service. And we can all be in separate states, which will be nice. Yeah, that's right.

1:14:32Jason DeFillippo:Jason is actually not legally allowed to be in the same state as me.

1:14:37Brian Schulmeister:I understand. in. All right. Well, thanks, guys. I'm going to go hang out. You're going to sit in your room alone and talk on your ham radio is what you're going to do. Yeah, there you go.

1:14:50Jason DeFillippo:Hey, that's a good point. You're good at reaching out to complete strangers, but not your friends, Dave.

1:14:55Brian Schulmeister:That's true.

1:14:56Jason DeFillippo:Interesting. You might want to talk to someone about that. I know.

1:15:02Brian Schulmeister:I'm not sure how much I want to open this can of worm. Thanks, guys. It's been great. See you next time. 540 or whatever you fucks would say. Yeah. Ta-ta. Closing shout outs! Over at Patreon, we've got sadly no new subscribers, but Nick upped his pledge, so thanks, Nick. And from the vault, Michael, Jeff, Thomas, Kate, Robert, Dave, CPT, Garrett, Celadonio, and Recap Podcast. Thank you all for your support.

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