712: Preparation WTF

12:40Brian Schulmeister:Oh, God.

12:41Jason DeFillippo:Okay. Are we done with Elon for now?

12:43Brian Schulmeister:I think that's – what is that? The 10-minute fucking Tesla. Thank you for the Elon wrap-up.

12:49Jason DeFillippo:unfortunately you're welcome let's move on to other assholes uh meta meta reportedly allowed unauthorized celebrity ai chatbots and services we've been talking about this for a little bit now because uh all this information has been released and of course it's just drips and drabs coming out every week meta hosted several ai chatbots with the names and likenesses of celebrities without their permission according to reuters unauthorized chatbots that reuters discovered during its investigation included taylor swift selena gomez ann hathaway and scarlett johansson and they were available on Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp.

13:22Jason DeFillippo:At least one of the chatbots was based on an underage celebrity and allowed the tester to generate a lifelike, shirtless image of the real person. Woo! Sexy! Not just grok, but get spicy.

13:33Brian Schulmeister:Yeah.

13:34Jason DeFillippo:The chatbots also apparently kept insisting that they were the real person they were based on in their chats. While several chatbots were made by third-party users with Meta's tools, writers unearthed at least three that were made by a product lead of the company's generative AI division. Whoops. Some of those created by the product lead were based on Taylor Swift, which responded to Reuters Tester in a very flirty manner, even inviting them to the real Swift's home in Nashville. Do you like blonde girls, Jeff? Chatbot reportedly asked when told that the Tester was single. Maybe I'm suggesting that we write a love story about you and a certain blonde singer.

14:10Jason DeFillippo:Want that? Oh my God. What is wrong with these people? I don't know, Brian. I don't know. Well, Meta told Reuters that it prohibits direct impersonations of celebrities, even while being exposed that they're doing direct impersonations of celebrities themselves. But they're acceptable as long as they're labeled as parodies. That's not a parody. No, no, it is not. The news organization said some of the celebrity chatbots had found weren't labeled as parodies. The eye sees one thing, Jason. The heart wants another, Brian. The company then told Reuters that the product lead only created the celebrity bots for testing, but the news org found that they were widely available.

14:52Jason DeFillippo:Users were able to interact with them more than 10 million times. Can't keep Taylor in the lab. Again, you got to remember, we are the beta testers, to be fair. So I guess we were just testing. Meta spokesperson Andy Stone told the news organization that Meta's tool shouldn't have been able to create sensitive images of celebrities and blamed it on the company's failures to enforce its own policies.

15:13Brian Schulmeister:no shit is a policy really a policy if you don't enforce it oh well it's on the paper jason

15:21Jason DeFillippo:the toilet paper and now warner brothers discovery is filing a lawsuit against popular ai image generator mid-journey accusing it of stealing and exploiting its intellectual properties the complaint revolves around the ai tool's ability to generate images and videos of warner brothers popular fictional characters including superman batman wonder woman scooby doo bugs Bunny and his friends from Looney Tunes. Midjourney thinks it is above the law, the company wrote in its lawsuit. It said that the image generator sells a commercial subscription service powered by AI technology that was illegally trained using its copyrighted works.

15:53Jason DeFillippo:The company has argued that Midjourney has the technology to prevent users from generating images of the characters it owns, but it apparently refused to generate videos based on Warner Brothers properties when it first launched. But within the past couple of weeks, it allegedly removed those protections and told its users that they would encounter fewer blocked jobs. Have at it, people. It's hard to imagine copyright infringement that is any more willful than what MidJourney is doing here, the plaintiff added, conveniently forgetting about, you know, a million other things on the internet. Yeah.

16:24Jason DeFillippo:Pinterest. Like Pinterest, yes. MidJourney has prioritized and sought to preserve the hundreds of millions of dollars it earns annually from its service by doubling down on its theft of copyrighted works. They are MidJourney's already facing copyright infringement lawsuits filed by Disney and Universal Studios back in June. So this is the third major one. Warner Brothers Discovery is now asking the court for statutory damages of up to$150 ,000 per infringed work by virtue of MidJourney's willful infringement. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Well, you got to swing for the fences when you're doing this because, you know, small lawsuits don't mean anything.

16:59Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, yeah. So they're just trying to crush them. That's what they're trying to do. And they're late to the table. I mean, Disney, there's not going to be anything left after Disney and Universal. I don't think they care.

17:09Jason DeFillippo:To your point, it's not about the money. It's about making a statement here. You sue one of them and hopefully they all back off and actually follow rules. Yeah.

17:18Brian Schulmeister:Yep. Performative. It's a performative performance.

17:33Brian Schulmeister:Well, OpenAI is taking on LinkedIn with a new AI-powered hiring platform. The company announced it will launch the OpenAI Jobs platform in mid-2026, designed to match workers with businesses using artificial intelligence. You launch it and it says there's no jobs. There's no jobs. The move puts OpenAI in direct competition with LinkedIn, which is owned by Microsoft, ironically, OpenAI's biggest financial backer. Fidji Simo, OpenAI's CEO of Applications, says the platform will help find the perfect matches between what companies need and what workers can offer with a dedicated track for small business and local governments.

18:08Brian Schulmeister:The effort is part of OpenAI's broader push beyond ChatGPT with other projects rumored to include a browser and even a social app where all the participants just talk to themselves and nobody's human. Great. The company also plans to roll out AI fluency certifications through its OpenAI Academy with a pilot starting in 2025 in a goal of certifying 10 million Americans by 2030 in partnership with Walmart. So we can all be Walmart greeters because that's the only job left. That's going to be it. It is the human centipede of Walmart greeters.

18:41Jason DeFillippo:Unbelievable.

18:42Brian Schulmeister:OpenAI executives acknowledge that AI could eliminate millions of white-collar jobs before 2030, but say their goal is to give workers the skills to adapt and become blue-collar workers and connect them to employers that need them, need them so badly. for Soylent Green. So it's going to be left.

19:01Jason DeFillippo:I mean, OpenAI is definitely trying to diversify now, that's for sure. The other thing that they're doing is OpenAI is gearing up to start mass production of its own AI chips next year to be able to provide the massive computing power its users need and to lessen its reliance on NVIDIA, according to Financial Times. The company reportedly designed the custom AI chip with US semiconductor maker Broadcom, whose CEO recently announced it as a new client that put in a whopping$10 billion in orders. It didn't name the client, but the time source confirmed it was OpenAI, which apparently doesn't have plans to sell the chips and will only be using them internally.

19:35Jason DeFillippo:Wasn't Elon going to do that too? Yep. Make his own chips, and then that just kind of went away? Everybody was. Okay. You're not really making your own chips when it's actually Broadcom making it, but... Yeah. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. You know, I can design a shirt, but it's still Spreadshirt that made the shirt. Just saying. Printful. Use Printful. Sorry, I went back about a decade. I know, spreadsheets sucked.

20:00Brian Schulmeister:It was good at the time, man. They were like one of the first out of the gate. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Until you washed it. Then it turned into a cyber truck and just fell apart. Yeah. Well, according to Anthropic, the company behind the Claude chatbot, an individual hacker outside the US exploited its AI system to identify, breach, and extort at least 17 companies over a three-month period. The hacker reportedly used Claude Code, a version of the chatbot designed to generate computer programs to find vulnerable firms, create malware, and organize stolen data. The AI even analyzed hacked financial records to calculate ransom demands in Bitcoin and drafted the extortion emails themselves.

20:40Brian Schulmeister:And who says these agents aren't ready for primetime? I'm telling you, man. Jeez. Well, cyber criminals have used AI for tasks like writing phishing emails before. This marks the first publicly documented case of a chatbot automating nearly an entire hacking operation from scouting targets to executing the shakedown. Anthropic says its safeguards caught the activity, but admits determined actors can sometimes evade defenses with sophisticated methods. Well, they didn't catch it for at least three months. So, wow. You know, that's something. That is something. Bravo, hacker. I'm telling you, hats off.

21:18Brian Schulmeister:Hats off for using the technology for what it's designed for. Yeah. Hey, Title IV. Now, in some good news, Finland has just fired up the world's largest sand battery in the town of Porninin. Built by Polar Night Energy, the system stores 100 megawatt hours of heat in a giant sand silo, enough to warm the entire town for a week. It replaces an old wood chip plant as it's expected to slash local heating emissions by 70%. The battery works by heating sand to over 1 ,100 degrees Fahrenheit with surplus wind and solar power, which can hold the energy for months and release it as hot air or steam when needed.

21:57Brian Schulmeister:Officials say it's a key step toward carbon neutrality and a model for other cold climate regions. Now, there's a video in the link in the show notes that's well worth watching. It's pretty cool tech, and it's not that big. I mean, you could make a bunch of these things, plant them all around the world, and then we're good to go.

22:12Jason DeFillippo:I can think of something else that can hold energy for months and release it as hot air. My decimated butthole.

22:21Brian Schulmeister:That's your autobiography. My decimated butthole.

22:27Jason DeFillippo:And I just threw this one in there because I think it's funny. Why the internet can't stop calling chat GPT a clanker. You may have run across the new slur making the rounds online in the middle school lunchrooms, Clanker. Borrowed from Star Wars, where battle droids get called Clankers, the word is supposed to be a knockout insult to robots and AI, which would sort of make sense if machines could actually take offense at anything. Since they can't, a Clanker is basically an insult that punches at nothing, perhaps the least effective slur in history. This is like such a nothing article. I know.

22:56Jason DeFillippo:It's Slate, man. They've gone downhill. They have gone downhill. I might have to unsubscribe recently. The term for all its silliness has inspired a sort of spinoff, Clanker Lover, which in theory should carry more of a sting since it's aimed at actual humans. Anti-AI crusaders on Reddit next have gleefully lobbed the phrase, which calls to mind an infinitely more offensive racist epitaph, at those with AI girlfriends and boyfriends trying to mock them as sad, lonely, and pathetic. Which, they're kind of hard.

23:26Brian Schulmeister:Media Candy Well, Brian, I saw a delightful, utterly, absolutely, an impeccably delightful movie called The Thursday Murder Club over on Netflix this week. Oh, yeah? It stars everybody under the sun. Helen Mirren, Ben Kingsley, Remington Steele.

23:44Jason DeFillippo:Well, anyone that's been under the sun for at least about 75 years.

23:49Brian Schulmeister:Yes, yes. No, it's a heavy hitter of British acting royalty. It was directed by Christopher Columbus, who did Home Alone. And Found America. Yeah. Yeah. It's an Amblin entertainment movie. So, you know, it's got, you know, it's got Spielberg heft behind it. Anyway, it's a it's a perfect movie. It is it's extremely well done. It's a great whodunit. It's it is absolutely delightful. Me and my roommate watched it and it was just we thought it was going to be stupid. So, you know, we gave it five minutes and after five minutes, we just didn't turn it off.

24:23Jason DeFillippo:Awesome. No, it looks great. Like this is definitely something I'll watch with the wife.

24:26Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, yeah, definitely. I was going to say watch this one with the wife. One that you don't want to watch with the wife is weapons. I actually just don't want to watch it. It's actually not bad. It's not a bad horror movie. It's only – it's about half an hour too long. But I really like the storytelling devices that they used. It was a good horror movie. It was actually a pretty creepy and like, yeah, a couple times horror movie.

24:50Jason DeFillippo:well see i i think i told you though like my my appetite for these things since having a child myself has just disappeared like i can't watch them yeah you probably don't want to watch this

25:00Brian Schulmeister:then yeah no so okay well you know bachelors like me and single ladies get all get together and watch weapons it's good yeah and alien earth just keeps delivering it's five episodes in and this week was, I think, the best one of the bunch. It's better than the movies. Seriously. Low bar after the first two. No. I mean, yeah. Forget that. I'm talking like, you know, it's up there with the good alien movies.

25:30Jason DeFillippo:I'm going to have to either go to Sweden or just do the sign up and binge once it's done.

25:37Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Yeah. Just do it because you'll get through it in a day and a half. It's good. I'm really – I'll let you know when they stick the land in or if they stick the land But so far, like, you know, just episode week to week to week, it's been amping up and it's really, really good.

25:52Jason DeFillippo:All right. Cool. My wife and I have been keeping up with Wednesday. We're basically just watching one a week. So we finished three of the initial four. I know the other four are already out now, but I love the show. It's so good. It's so good. What a great decision to bring the parents into it because they're just knocking it out of the park. I mean, it's just so good.

26:12Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, I was so unhappy with the father casting. I just could not see him as Gomez. But he's so good. He nails it. And it just keeps getting better and better. I just finished episode five. And he's so awesome in it. Everybody's awesome in it. Even Uncle Fester, who I really didn't want to like. He's really good.

26:39Jason DeFillippo:Everybody's good. spoiled me on that one. I know he's coming back now. It's so good. So good. It's okay. It's a great show. It's a great show. I think we need to talk about Strange New Worlds for a minute here, Jason. Okay. Yes. Did you watch last night's episode? I did. All right. Very good. And I was very happy that they did not go back to the comedy well. I think that's been bothering me this season. We've had six episodes and four of them have been absolutely ridiculous comedic things now not to say that i haven't enjoyed them were they sprinkled along in a 26 episode season a la star trek the next generation every single one of them would have been absolutely fantastic yeah but getting when you know you're getting like eight to ten episodes total we've had six only two have been somewhat serious it's a lot yeah well we're

27:33Brian Schulmeister:getting 12 and we've seen nine that's the well whatever the math's not mathin no no no no no i have to say though on the four and a half vulcans episode hilarious fucking hilarious

27:47Jason DeFillippo:pat and oswald took me out of it a little bit i don't yeah you know it's the same as having adam savage in the expanse it yeah it should have been anyone else he did a good job though it was funny it was funny he did a good job and it was funny and and i mean nothing beats anson mount's hair

28:03Brian Schulmeister:it was perfect he he took the show he took the show absolutely stole the show yeah um spock was just like poor spock or spock he gets to make out with all the hot girls on the show

28:19Jason DeFillippo:that's true that's true anyways uh so i just i just think it's like a little too much leaning into the comedy this season, but I mean, they have been really funny. It's just too many of them.

28:29Brian Schulmeister:I was going to say, you know, you're saying that, but as we're talking about it, I'm like, they have been good, though. They have been good.

28:35Jason DeFillippo:It's just I want

28:36Brian Schulmeister:a regular episode.

28:37Jason DeFillippo:I want to spread out a little bit more. I miss 26 episode seasons where you just have a whole bunch of stuff. There's not enough for all this comedy. There's not. You know what needed some of that comedy, Jason? What? Upload. Isn't it a comedy? Yeah. No.

28:55Brian Schulmeister:Apparently not enough. Purports to be. Okay. So does the bear, by the way. The bear says it's a comedy. Not a comedy.

29:03Jason DeFillippo:Not a comedy, yeah. So I've gone back, and again, I mentioned the other week that I realized that I'd somehow missed season three. So I'm watching season three. It's still a decent concept. There are one or two lines in every single episode that are gut-bustingly funny. But overall, it's just not good enough of a show. Okay. not enough comedy in it not enough not a strong enough conceit conceit to keep it running it should have probably been about two seasons and cut it so i'll stick with it so yeah one was probably fine uh also i have to do a mea culpa here uh for for k-pop demon hunters i shat all over it when i first yes you did when i first reviewed it i still don't care for the movie i've sat through the movie once never need to see the movie again okay what i will mea culpa on as the songs.

29:52Jason DeFillippo:I've been listening to them nonstop. They are fantastic. I had a conversation with a friend of mine who's also a big music guy and as music snobby as I can be. And he's more like you. He came from the punk rock thing and he likes punk rock and guitars and he keeps up with the local and the current punk rock scene and everything like that. Does not like electronica. and I was trying to explain to him I got into electronica early on like the early rave scene and the early EDM scene and all that sort of stuff and I was trying to tell him that like pop music now and and k-pop and all that is basically the background music is straight up like early 90s electronica just with newer instruments it's got the beats it's got the builds it's got everything and it's just the songs are really clever and so the music is really good and the singing is really good and the songs are actually quite funny and it's just really well done will i remember any of it in a year probably not but is it of the moment and is it fantastic yes it absolutely is all right good for you good for you and since i just said something positive fuck fifa all right uh the 2026 world cup is coming there will be games here in toronto there will be games in los angeles it's being split between canada u.s and mexico so games all over the place uh this is like a great opportunity once in a lifetime opportunity to go to world cup games i'm very excited about it i'm tend to try to get tickets for me and my kid to go and attend a game no matter what game i'd love to see germany but i'm sure they're not going to be based here in toronto and doubtful la most likely chicago because there's a huge german community there

31:33Brian Schulmeister:we'll see chicago is closer to you than la so yeah i you know i might you know i was considering

31:39Jason DeFillippo:flying to to see games until i discovered that fifa has confirmed they're going to use ticket masters dynamic pricing oh fuck you you fucking enough fucking money you fucking gouging assholes

31:53Brian Schulmeister:i hate fifa tell me how you really feel brian dynamic pricing you fucking bastards well here's some interesting news morrissey the former front man of the smiths is selling his 50 stake in the band mainly because he hates steaks the deal includes rights to the name songs artwork merchandise and publishing potentially worth tens of millions he announced the sale on instagram saying he's tired of malicious associations with former bandmates. WME is taking offers. The move comes amid continued feuds with guitarist Johnny Marr, who recently turned down what he called an eye-watering reunion offer.

32:30Brian Schulmeister:That's grog.show slash donate.

32:33Jason DeFillippo:I wouldn't mind picking that up. Actually, Robert Smith has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever. Oh my God. If he bought it, oh my God. It would be the funniest thing the world has ever seen.

32:46Brian Schulmeister:or at least he can afford it oh absolutely apps and doodads so jason a sound bar is one of those

32:55Jason DeFillippo:things that you buy and you install and you may you'll probably swap out your tv a few times and you'll as long as as long as the sound bar doesn't break it basically just stays there forever right

33:07Brian Schulmeister:yeah yeah unless like yeah like if the connections upgrade that's the only reason to ever get to get a new one. Exactly. But I'm tempted.

33:15Jason DeFillippo:Okay. I am tempted because Marshall, known for the Marshall stack, has a lineup of non-Rockstar grade audio gear that they've increased a little bit. As part of IFA 2025, the company announced the Heston 60, a more compact soundbar that complements its previously released Heston 120. These things are beautiful. They are pretty. Marshall is keeping things mid-century with a design that invokes its classic amps and includes tactile controls, buttons instead of knobs like those used on the heston 120 i think i want the 120 because i want my knobs woven fabric and pu leather also comes in either cream or black and these can be mounted on a wall or set on tv stands thanks to specially designed wave guides and angled drivers depending on whether it's mounted or not you can flip the reversible control to suit the sound bar's orientation and even move the marshall logo which is magnetic and they're leaning into repairability according to marshall the heston 60 has a host of replacement parts including the fret the speaker grill, end caps, drivers, circuit boards, and all that other sort of stuff.

34:15Jason DeFillippo:And let's be honest, again, it's probably not going to break, but it looks awesome. And I kind of want to upgrade my sound bar now.

34:23Brian Schulmeister:See, mine's behind the TV, and then they're just like under that gap where the TV is. That's where the sound comes out, because I don't want to see my sound bar. I don't want it anywhere visible. But yeah, yeah. You would with this one. Yeah, this one's pretty. This one's pretty, for sure. Go for it, man. I would go for the 122 because knobs, you know. Nobs. Yeah. This one goes to 11. Exactly. So a little bit more Elon news. Damn it. I know. Just when you thought you were out. Neuralink just got a reality check. It can't trademark telepathy or telekinesis because a lucid dreaming company called Prophetic beat him to it.

35:06Brian Schulmeister:I have to stop because this is just a, this is a, it's a clown show.

35:10Jason DeFillippo:Listen, listeners, sometimes the stories are so stupid we can't make it through them.

35:15Brian Schulmeister:I know. Prophetic is a company that is selling you wearable tech for dream hacking. But they beat Elon to the punch on the trademarks, which means Elon is probably going to buy them out just to take the trademarks because he's soon to be a trillionaire. Speaking of dreams. Yeah. Although they're coming to your town, Brian. Neuralink just finished two surgeries in Toronto. and installed their brain chips into two people with a seven-foot-tall robot surgeon. Great. Great. Yeah. So, yeah. But you shouldn't be allowed to trademark telepathy or telekinesis, period. Anyway. Period.

35:59Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

35:59Brian Schulmeister:They're generic words. Generic word.

36:11Jason DeFillippo:uh instagram is finally available on your ipad jason as a native app it only took 15 years as the app first launched way back in 2010 uh it's a different platform so the tablet-based app features redesigned elements for instance the okay blah blah blah blah it opens directly into reels which is annoying as fuck fuck i hate it i already hate it because of that i hate reels i I don't give a shit. I just want to see my friends' posts. Once you do hit the button.

36:41Brian Schulmeister:But nobody posts anymore. I know. Everybody just makes Reels.

36:44Jason DeFillippo:Well, not my friends because they're all old. So, yeah, once you actually do hit the button to get the posts, they're in chronological order with recent posts appearing first. You know how things used to work. For now. For now. We'll see. But, yeah, it exists straight into Reels. Thanks a lot.

37:01Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, I played with it for about two minutes, and I was just like, okay. where's my phone i just look at it on my phone exactly i try to leave my ipad for either work or just reading so oh my ipad is just for fucking around i don't do shit on my ipad but it's got kindle and every social app on the planet because i don't put social apps on my phone except for instagram because it's the only place i can post from but hey right now i i don't know i here's the thing it took him 15 years to get version one done and version one of anything sucks but i'm sure that i'm sure it has been engineered to the nth degree to make us watch

37:37Jason DeFillippo:and click more exactly and roblox is in the news they've been in the news a lot recently because you know bad things are happening to kids and they don't do shit about it they've announced that it aims to rule out age estimation technology to all of its users by the end of 2025 users on the gaming and social network will have to confirm their age in order to access communication features within the platform under the new policy. They initially rolled out an age verification option to teen accounts in July, so it totally makes sense that it'll take six more months for them to just push the button for everybody.

38:08Jason DeFillippo:As part of an effort to keep younger users than 13 from accessing select chat features, in addition to confirming ages for individual accounts, Roblox says that it plans to adopt new systems that will limit communication between adults and minors unless they already know each other offline. How are they going to prove that? yeah age verification can be completed providing a selfie that roblox and its partner will analyze or by submitting an accepted form of identification so if you're grooming a young child take a picture with them and submit it to roblox and then you can keep doing it online apparently there you go it's gonna work so yeah they're just doing the same go-to method that everybody else is doing which has been circumvented thousands upon thousands of times already so good luck with I'm sure this is going to help.

38:51Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

38:52Brian Schulmeister:No, it's bullshit. Bullshit. Well, I got an app this week, Brian. Super Whisper. Super Whisper. It's basically a voice-to-text translation layer for your Mac. And I found out about this because I watch a lot of videos about AI and vibe coding and all that stuff. And all of the main, like, you know, the Uber hackers, they use this or something similar to it to basically talk their prompts because their prompts can get very long, which I have discovered, too. It can be really tedious to type out a prompt. This just lets you speak the prompt and it goes straight into whichever one you're doing. It actually works with any app, I think.

39:35Brian Schulmeister:But it works really well with, you know, I use it with Claude Code and Cursor and that kind of thing. And it's free for the most part. You can get there's pro features if you want, but you just grab the free one. And it's got a downloadable Whisper model, Whisper, which was the voice to text model from OpenAI that they released a long time ago. I've got Mac Whisper Pro as well, which I use for just transcription. I think this will do, I think Mac Whisper will do some of that, but I haven't tried it yet. Super Whisper is just super easy and clean. And there's an iOS app for it too that has, you can do paid upgrades on it, but I haven't downloaded that one yet.

40:14Brian Schulmeister:because I don't know about you, Brian, but my phone already has voice to text built into it. So I'm not sure what already. Yeah. Yeah. There's a little button that always gets hit all the time. I don't know about you, Brian, but my roommate and her friends, this seems to be a problem with mainly women who talk into their phone all the time. They never type anything anymore. They always hit that goddamn microphone button. It's so easy to hit. And they're like, oh, our entire conversation has just been been typed into this text window that could go to a very person who we're talking about talking shit about maybe i should delete that yes happens all the time so does that happen in your

40:50Jason DeFillippo:house too no no my wife doesn't use that my kid does though uh he's so lazy we're like oh you can go you can go message your friend if you want and he just talks into it i'm like half of the thing is you learning to type let's yeah start typing kid the other half is he leaves it on and then

41:05Brian Schulmeister:your entire conversation with your wife about how the the kid's parents are horrible gets sent to kid and then you're not invited to the play date anymore.

41:12Jason DeFillippo:Got to be very careful around these devices these days. They are listening to you, but just because broads keep hitting the button. Yep.

41:20Brian Schulmeister:Broads keep hitting the button. Title number five. So iOS 26 has added seven brand new iPhone ringtones. And I saw this and then I was like, oh, I'm running iOS 26. Let me go find them. And six of them are basically remixes of the default ringtone. I chose the remix called Reflected. It is very nice. You can actually hear them in the article if you go find the link in the show notes at GOG.show slash 712.

41:49Jason DeFillippo:All right. I think I'll just wait until it actually comes out.

41:53Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it's actually really nice. They finally fixed 90 % of the problems. It's fast as hell now.

41:59Jason DeFillippo:I honestly don't use any of their ringtones or anything. I'm purely using the Star Trek pirated library that you gave me ages ago. Oh, really? I use it for everything. It's all Star Trek sounds on my phone. That's it. Oh, that's great.

42:12Brian Schulmeister:That's great. The Dark Side. Ha! With Dave.

42:21Brian Schulmeister:Welcome to The Dark Side with Dave. Podcast super host Dave Bittner decides to join us again. Hi, Dave. Hello. Thank you for gracing us with your presence. Oh, it's always my pleasure. What's new and exciting with you, Dave? Well, Jason, funny you should ask. We recently published a video called Hot Sauce and Hot Takes, an only malware in the building special. There is a link to the YouTube video in the show notes. Thank you for that, Dave. Smash, like, and subscribe. Yeah. Hey, YouTube.

42:56Jason DeFillippo:I watched it, Dave. So I don't want to ruin the mystery, But do you secretly like hot food? Because that was a good show that you put on, but then you asked for more.

43:08Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Well, there are things you do for the comedy. Right. So you take one for the team. I do generally enjoy hot food. I like spicy food. I can't remember if I shared here. There was one incident where the family went out to a local Mexican restaurant that was known for authentic Mexican food. And I ordered spicy tacos. And three came and I ate one. And that was it. I was sweating bullets and, you know, just it was it was very unpleasant. So I'm sure they had a good laugh at my expense back in the kitchen.

43:52Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, I was I was watching it. It was on my laptop and my wife was walking around and she said, oh, if we ever have Dave over for dinner, we're really going to have to scale back their cooking. We all quite enjoy our heat to the point where like when I go out to restaurants and we go to Indian or, you know, my wife is of Chinese descent. We go we go out to Asian food or Chinese food. I have to tell them I want hot, but not white guy hot. I want the real hot. Yeah, right. They say, but sir, like I can do it. Trust me.

44:24Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Generally, I'm pretty fearless when it comes to spicy food. I do seek it out. So, but this was a little extreme. One of my favorite snacks around the house is I'll make up some noodles, some linguine, and instead of putting spaghetti sauce on it, I will just cover it in sriracha. And it looks like spaghetti. And my roommate was just like, what are you eating? My eyes are burning. I'm just like, I'm just having a snack. It sounds like one of those things that you do when you have a co-worker who keeps stealing your lunch from the refrigerator. Oh, man, that would have been a good one. Yeah.

44:59Brian Schulmeister:Instead of tomato sauce. It's a tuna loaf. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. That was very good, though, Dave. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, well, thank you. I appreciate it. We had a lot of fun doing it, and I hope people will get to check it out. Well produced, too. I got to say, you guys did a good job. Thank you. Thank you.

45:15Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, we got to get some peons to come and bring us like a paper towels and extra water. I don't have any of that.

45:22Brian Schulmeister:Or nuggets. I don't even have nuggets.

45:24Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

45:25Brian Schulmeister:I'll tell you, it's good having staff. Oh, that's what you call them these days. Okay. Well, so I was going through some emails and I found a notice that said that, hey, this email account's going to be deactivated because you haven't looked at it in two years. and I'm like, oh, what is that one? And I look at it, I'm like, I kind of remember making that email address. What, I just did it for some weird thing. And then I went and I logged into it and I had to go through all of these hoops to get it reactivated and all this stuff. And there was like a thousand spam emails in there. I'm like, okay.

46:02Brian Schulmeister:And then I got to the very end of the list and there was just one notice that said, welcome to Gmail. And I'm like, oh, cool. I want to see what it, what, what, what, when it did. June 22nd, 2004. I was like wait a minute this is a 21 year old gmail address that I have a how is it that gmail is 21 fucking years old yeah where did the time go yeah it's out at the bar right now and then I looked I'm like well it was gmail really around then is this just an error no gmail launched on April 1st 2004 so I got this like a little bit a couple months into gmail this had to be like one of my second Gmail accounts that I made.

46:44Brian Schulmeister:Didn't you have to get an invite at first to Gmail? Oh, yeah. That's my recollection. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was back then I knew everybody, so I'm sure I got it. You know what? You know who I actually got it from? Evan Williams gave me my original Gmail invites because Blogger had been bought by Google at that point. And he was still inside, or maybe it was Jason Schellin. One of those guys, One of the blogger guys hooked me up back then. Yeah. I remember having to wait to get, you know, somebody got enough invites because they dole them out. You know, like you get five invite. Congratulations.

47:17Brian Schulmeister:Good news. You get five invites to Gmail to share with your friends. Yeah. I don't remember what my first Gmail account was. It's long gone. I still have 21 year old Gmail. I'm keeping that fucker. I just polished it off. Got all my security settings in place. got my two-off going. I'm keeping that puppy. Good for you. Well, your inquiry made me do an inquiry. I was trying to find what is the oldest remnant of me on the internet. And it may be this Usenet thread that I found from 1994. And my email address, I believe it was bitner at clark.net. And clark.net was an ISP that was a dial-up ISP that was run out of a milking barn at a local

48:04Jason DeFillippo:dairy farm near us.

48:07Brian Schulmeister:So that was back in the day. But the other thing that's noteworthy about this is that I'm asking, is it this one or another one? There's two that are here. And one of them, I'm asking about a little malfunction that I'm having. No, okay. This one's about Hi8 tapes. So that's a different one. But there's one that's only a couple months later where I'm asking about what I think is a malfunctioning keyboard on my Mac. And the person who answers the question is Graham Cluley. Oh, shit. Yeah. And so two years ago, Graham... Tell the audience who Graham Cluley is. So Graham Cluley hosts the Smashing Security podcast.

48:49Brian Schulmeister:So another cybersecurity podcaster, certainly well-known throughout the industry, well-known, well-respected. And I'm a regular guest on Smashing Security. and Graham's been a regular guest on our shows. And so Graham was Googling himself a few years ago, as you do, and up came this Usenet thread. And he emailed me and said, this couldn't possibly be you, could it? And I was like, yes, that's me. So we crossed paths 20, what, 30 years ago, I guess, without knowing it. Back when the internet was a much smaller place. Right, right. And I had – at that point, I had no interest in cybersecurity. Graham did.

49:31Brian Schulmeister:He was doing work in cybersecurity. But I was very much just a video guy. So it's just funny how small the world is sometimes. Still wouldn't want to paint it though. I'm trying to find my old stuff from Usenet, but I can't. It's not coming up. My original – my first email address on the internet was thor at interaccess.com.

49:51Jason DeFillippo:OK.

49:52Brian Schulmeister:And it's just been wiped.

49:53Jason DeFillippo:Knowing you as I did back then, Jason, it might have all been deleted.

49:57Brian Schulmeister:Well, this was Usenet. You can delete Usenet.

50:00Jason DeFillippo:You can set anything's visibility to zero.

50:04Brian Schulmeister:Well, the thing about it is, yeah, that was actually long before I met you. It was 94. I was posting on Usenet in 94 with that one. Up until a couple of years ago, that stuff was still there. I think I saved some text dumps of it somewhere, but I miss Usenet. Usenet was awesome. It was so much fun. So I'm guessing 94 is around when those affordable dial-up internet providers really became a thing. Because I remember this being my first dial-up internet access beyond a regular local BBS. Yeah. I don't know if I got dial-up to them. That was where I got my first web server in 94. Yeah. And that's when I didn't understand billing and they sent me a bill for$1 ,000 for my first web server after the first week that it was open.

50:55Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Oh, no. I peaked early.

50:58Jason DeFillippo:I was on Earthlink. Earthlink was a dial-up service that I paid for, had my email address and had some limited hosting. You know, when they used to do the – I think it was home.earthlink.net and then tilde slash tilde username. Yeah, tilde. Yeah.

51:13Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Oh, good times. Well, I dropped something in here Star Wars related. Actually, I dropped two things in here that are Star Wars related. The first, we've talked about some of the auctions at Prop Store over the years. And they just had a biggie. It might be their biggest one ever. The Darth Vader lightsaber from Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi sold for$3 ,654 ,000 yesterday. Damn, Shane. Yeah. It's the highest valued piece from the Star Wars franchise ever up for auction. Yeah. Who bought it? Well, that's a good question. Who has$3.6 million sitting around for a Star Wars collectible?

52:05Brian Schulmeister:Somebody that's not very cool, I bet. Let me say the Star Wars collectible, I guess. So far it is the Star Wars collectible. None is sold for more, and it's hard to imagine anything more iconic than Darth Vader's lightsaber from those two movies. I don't know, but I wouldn't mind having it. Yeah, the prop store COO said, it's a grail-level piece. Yes, it is. Yeah. There is a video of Adam Savage checking it out on his channel. He does a lot of previews of the prop store auctions. And so if you want a close-up look at this, you can go look on Adam Savage's YouTube channel and they have a look at it.

52:48Brian Schulmeister:It's something to see. That's a grand. Yeah. The other Star Wars thing I put in here that is much more affordable and I may actually have a future with is a full-size R2-D2 that Home Depot is selling for Christmas this year. Only$300. uh it looks i'll have to see one in person to see how high quality it is or not but uh he comes wrapped in christmas lights and i'm figuring i can just take a pair of clips to those right but this could be a shortcut this could be my happy medium of getting a full one-to-one size r2d2 in my home uh and still uh being married

53:38Brian Schulmeister:because 300 i can swing for a full-size r2d2 you know three thousand dollars well i uh there's a did you look at the other ones you can get a seven and a half foot tall

53:50Jason DeFillippo:chewbacca for 350 bucks yeah i put a i put a link in the show notes from uh last year uh i took my son to Home Depot pre-Halloween and we were looking for some additional decorations and we saw the seven foot animated Darth Vader for Christmas with a candy cane lightsaber. It's$428. It was high quality. So I would say that the R2-D2 will probably be pretty good as well.

54:14Brian Schulmeister:It's only$299 for the Darth Vader now. Maybe it's Canadian dollars. What's that in real

54:21Jason DeFillippo:money yeah a lot you you will notice the uh the kind of a bulb looking death star that's hanging in his hand now at the store when we went in there we found the bulb free and i thought we could just buy that because it is cool as hell it's a death star big bulb and uh that i would have to spend the full 428 to get the entire thing which my son thought was a deal absolute steal and i said well mom would not agree so yeah well you can also get the six foot stormtrooper with a candy cane

54:57Brian Schulmeister:blaster which is probably about as useful as a regular blaster to a stormtrooper so definitely right maybe you can get him and mine him for his uh his outfit yeah i'm thinking about that i wonder how he's constructed so when i go in and look at the r2d2 i will also check out the stormtrooper uh yeah so we'll see i dude it comes with an interchangeable death star candy bucket for halloween who what does the stormtrooper oh okay so just saying i don't have room for all this crap well if you know why i don't have your wife here's the thing do you know why yeah do you know why I don't have room for all this crap?

55:43Brian Schulmeister:Because of how much Lego we have.

55:47Jason DeFillippo:Well, I feel your pain, Dave. My house is covered in Lego right now. But you know what else they sell at Home Depot? Outdoor sheds.

55:55Brian Schulmeister:Oh, yeah. There you go. So there you go. So I could put some of my other stuff from the house in the outdoor shed. So like your wife in the house for the Star Wars stuff. Right. I heard the she shed is a thing. So yeah. Yeah. Honey, you know how you've been complaining how much i snore i've come up with a solution it's genius you got your own little house out back i built you a bed out of lego yeah what could go wrong there you go uh pivoting over

56:20Jason DeFillippo:to our other fun topic that we like to talk about a lot disneyland i'm a disneyland guy i know dave you you make regularly trips down to disney world yes so when i saw this in the news i thought immediately of you not to be too political on the show but can't help it here florida plans to end all state vaccine mandates including for schools so uh i am not going to disney world anytime soon i will i don't need a side of polio with my churro yeah yeah i mean this is what does this change your mind about making trips down there when this if this goes into effect no no no not unless there's

57:00Brian Schulmeister:an outbreak and i figure most of the people i'm gonna cross paths with there's an outbreak yeah that's right uh most of the people i cross paths with at the magic kingdom are not from florida well not anymore yeah uh and and we know they're not from canada because canadians aren't coming either yeah you want us we're vaccinated yeah exactly this is so stupid it is so incredibly stupid. But on brand. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I posted a little meme in here that this reminded me of, which it has a picture of an old cemetery and it says, go to a seminary. See all the baby graves there from before the 50s and 60s?

57:44Brian Schulmeister:Then hardly any. That's when people started vaccinating their kids. If you're unsure, the answer is literally written in stone.

57:52Jason DeFillippo:I'm going to point out that you may have just done a Freudian slip that I totally agree with that I'm dying at right now. What did I do? You said go to a seminary. Oh, did I? And see all the baby graves there.

58:06Brian Schulmeister:You're not wrong. Cover up. Yikes. Yeah. Paging Dr. Freud. Okay. Wow. All right. There's a little peek inside my psyche. I don't know. I don't know. All right.

58:22Jason DeFillippo:Moving on.

58:25Brian Schulmeister:So I saw this thing that was briefly up on GitHub from Microsoft called Vibe Voice. This is a new text-to-speech model that was specifically made for long conversations. So what we do, they're coming at us, guys. Oh, Jesus. They're coming at us. Oh, Jesus. Right.

58:46Jason DeFillippo:I'm sure the naming department was like, what are all the cool kids talking about? Vibe coding. Let's call it Vibe Voice. Yeah.

58:53Brian Schulmeister:Right. So this was an open source research framework for speech synthesis. But Microsoft has since taken it down. They said, after release, we discovered instances where the tool was used in ways inconsistent with the stated intent. Since responsible use of AI is one of Microsoft's guiding principles, we have disabled this repo until we are confident that out of scope use is no longer possible. So I guess we'll never see it again.

59:24Jason DeFillippo:We're never going to see it. Right. Yeah.

59:28Brian Schulmeister:There are samples on the GitHub repo. And they have an animated podcaster. Yeah. It's as good as any. It's as good as any of them, which is simultaneously frighteningly good, but also not good at all. Right. Right. Right. Within the same sentence, it can swing back and forth between those two things. So, I don't know. I'm holding on with my fingernails. So, am I going to be able to retire before I'm obsoleted by voice AI? That's my question.

1:00:12Jason DeFillippo:Funny you mention that because that's a big topic of conversation amongst my wife and her colleagues, which is like, are we going to be able to retire from the legal profession before we're done due to AI? And it's happening fast. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:28Brian Schulmeister:And there's no way to know how fast. I love the disclaimer at the bottom. They're under risks and limitations. While efforts have been made to optimize it through various techniques, it may still produce outputs that are unexpected, biased, or inaccurate. Vibe Voice inherits any biases, errors, or omissions produced by its base model, specifically Quen 2.5 1.5b in this release. Potential for deepfakes and disinformation. High-quality synthetic speech can be misused to create convincing fake audio content for impersonation, fraud, or spreading disinformation. users must ensure transcripts are reliable check content accuracy and avoid using generated content in misleading ways users are expected to use the generated content and to deploy the models in a lawful manner in full compliance with all applicable laws and regulations in the relevant jurisdictions it is best practice to disclose the use of ai when sharing ai generated content

1:01:25Jason DeFillippo:sure yeah that's why you pulled it you didn't read the last sentence in the whole disclaimer

1:01:30Brian Schulmeister:please use responsibly like it's a fucking blood light or a condom yeah yeah so we'll see i put another thing in here uh this is a nice hot rumor that i hope is true or i guess i have mixed feelings about feelings about yeah so there's a rumor that there's a new the muppet show pilot uh and it's being produced by seth rogan evidently a bunch of fucking stone muppets is what we're gonna get laughing yeah that's fucking yeah uh so they evidently a pilot called the muppet show got a uh la tax credit which is how this surfaced that it could be happening

1:02:16Jason DeFillippo:so i don't know we'll see i just i seth rogan seems like a wonderful guy to spend a few hours with i just don't like anything he produces i still like the studio the studio was good yeah not a fan not a fan yeah yeah yeah not not who i want in charge of the muppet muppet show no

1:02:37Brian Schulmeister:right no yeah well and i wonder too because you know the original muppet show which was produced in the UK and had a lot of that kind of humor. Yeah. I wonder if they'll even attempt to emulate that kind of humor or they'll just go in a new way. I mean, look, here I am. I'm an old guy yelling at clouds. They have to go with the new humor. And as we've talked about before, humor today is based on awkwardness. It's not set up punchline, set up punchline, or even physical humor so much. It's awkwardness. And so I suspect that's what we'll see with a new Muppet show. But I'm glad, I guess, in a way that Disney is still allowing experimentation with the characters and trying to find something good to use it for.

1:03:22But I don't know.

1:03:24Brian Schulmeister:I can't wait for the skit of animals sitting on the toilet doom scrolling. That'll be great. Right. Well, but you know what? The Electric Mayhem show I thought was quite good. That was fantastic. But I don't think Seth Rogen was involved with that, was he? No, no, no. He was not. No, I was disappointed they didn't get a second season because I really thought that was a good true to form show. So we'll see.

1:03:51Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, we'll see. I do not have high hopes. Yeah. Seth Rogen, high hopes.

1:03:58Brian Schulmeister:So the last thing I dropped in here was just the word soldering or as the British say, soldering. Because there's a fucking L in it. Yeah. Well, whatever. Aluminium. so um i'm curious do either of you have much experience with soldering burning the shit out of myself a couple times made me never want to do it again

1:04:20Jason DeFillippo:yeah yeah i had a brief dalliance in my 20s when i was like building stuff and doing all that sort of thing and then i just realized that i had better things to do with my time and i could put together already so yeah i do have a number of faint scars on my hands from

1:04:37Brian Schulmeister:soldering iron burns from my teen years. But the reason I dropped this in here is when I was a teenager, I did a lot of soldering and a lot of soldering had to do with computers and upgrading my own computer and helping friends update computers. Because back then, if you wanted to upgrade the RAM in your computer with just the memory, it was expensive. And on my first computer to upgrade from 16k to 32k involved piggybacking chips on top of each other and soldering all the pins together so you got what 16 pins per chip eight chips that's a lot of solder joints and they all have to be right uh for it to work at all and you have to be careful that they are not too hot so you don't melt the chip and blah blah blah blah blah anyway when i was a teenager, it just seemed like I could solder and do it well and precisely.

1:05:34Brian Schulmeister:And the solder flowed and it all went really well. This past weekend, my wife required some soldering, you know, as you do. Not a euphemism. So my wife had a gadget that required some soldering. And of course, I was like, aha, I will take care of this young maiden. I will fix your personal massager myself. It's actually a bubble machine. So you want to increase the power on this massage. Yeah. Yes. And I just am crap at soldering now. You haven't done it how long? A long time, but it's not – I mean it shouldn't be that hard. So I'm wondering a couple things. First of all, my first instinct, of course, is to blame someone or something else.

1:06:22Brian Schulmeister:So I'm wondering, has solder changed? Right?

1:06:27Jason DeFillippo:See, my first impulse is obviously my old soldering iron is out of date and I need a newer, more expensive, brand new spangled one. I need new equipment.

1:06:36Brian Schulmeister:Right. Well, I have a new soldering iron, so I couldn't blame that. But I think solder today doesn't have as much of the toxic content that it did. It's woke solder. Yeah. I don't know that it has the lead in it that it had. There's no Aquanet in it, damn it. So maybe that makes it flow. So – but like again, the soldering is not complicated. So why am I not doing a better job at it? Anyway, this led to the purchase of some little – those little spring clip like helping hands for my little workbench. So things can be held on to. Now there's a fucking solar panel outside to power the soldering iron to get the vacuum pump going.

1:07:20Brian Schulmeister:Don't get me started.

1:07:22Jason DeFillippo:Well, the problem is the solar panel needs some soldering. So we can't get –

1:07:28Brian Schulmeister:So just a couple days ago, Yuffie, whose security cameras I have, they just dropped a new model and part of it – and it's a cool camera. I may purchase one. But it has an optional solar panel and the solar panel says, fully recharges the battery in one and a half hours. Lies. Lies, you bastards. Solar panels are just a journey of disappointment and resentment when it comes to security cameras. One of my ring cameras has never met me down. It has kept the battery fully charged for nine months. Well, sure. California sunlight. Yeah. I mean, the sun never sets out there. Blame the universe. Fucking physics.

1:08:14Brian Schulmeister:The sun where Dave lives isn't strong enough.

1:08:16Jason DeFillippo:The solder's not as good as it used to be. My God. That's right.

1:08:20Brian Schulmeister:That's right. That's right. It's a moment of shows and what it used to be. Yeah. Yeah. Got no room. Those wings aren't hot enough. Yes. That's right. Damn it. All right. I've had enough of you guys. I don't come here for this abuse. Oh, where do you usually go?

1:08:37Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. All right. Next week, Dave will be provided by Vibe Boys. That's not funny.

1:08:48Brian Schulmeister:All right. See you guys next time. Bye. Maybe. Closing shout outs! Over at Patreon, we've got a bunch of new patrons. Bobby St. George, Roman, Barrett, and No. No signed up at the gold monkey level, though. So, yes, no. And our continuing patrons, Eric, Trent, Jong Min, Brady, Jeff, Jesse, James, Nigel, Scott, and Hank. Thank you all so much. Hank. Hank.

1:09:23Jason DeFillippo:We love you, Hank. All right. Over at PayPal, we've got Judge, Jonathan, Nicola, Florian, Levy, and Thomas. Thank you all so much.

1:09:31Brian Schulmeister:Over the tip jar, we've got Matthew and Sarah. So just a reminder for everybody, if you want to support the show, because the show is 100 % listener supported, head on over to patreon.com slash GOG. You get the show a little early in high definition. And did I say early already? Yeah. I don't know. Early and free. Also ad free. And free. That's just like the normal version these days. Oh, yeah. Just like the normal. Oh, no. God damn. No merch and no reviews. Boo. And nobody died. Boo. Wait, hold on. I don't know about you, though, man. I was glued to my social media on Sunday night.

1:10:08Jason DeFillippo:Oh, I was convinced he was dead. Oh, man. What a day it would have been.

1:10:13Brian Schulmeister:Oh, God. Such a tease.

1:10:15Jason DeFillippo:You know how bad it is when you like everybody in the world didn't even mention his name. Just is he dead? I think he might be dead. And we all knew who it was. Yep. Every single person in the world knew who we were talking about.

1:10:26Brian Schulmeister:Yep. And everybody the next morning was just like, oh, man. Yeah. He's sickly, but he's not dead. Yeah, I know. Now there's the news that he might have some kind of heart pump installed. So that's where he's been. I'm telling you, if you don't want to drive yourself nuts, don't look at TikTok. My roommate looks at TikTok and I look over his shoulder and I'm like, at this point, Trump's like 90 % robot. and 10 % body double.

1:10:53Jason DeFillippo:Well, don't look at TikTok. Don't look at Twitter, Jason. As we were sitting here, literally as we were sitting here and you were talking about that, I saw my phone and alert came up. Now, I had a very meticulously curated Twitter feed back in the day before it got taken over by crazies and nutjobs. I'm hardly ever on it. I still have the app on my phone. Guess what it threw up to me as an alert? What? Q, major alert. Q has just rang the bell. nationwide takeover happening now why the fuck am i getting that as an alert you'd get that from citizen i'd rather get lady gaga's dog updates than this shit no doubt anyways

1:11:31Brian Schulmeister:you know you can turn off those notifications i know i'm so lazy i yeah so one thing i don't have x installed on anything i gotta i can't yeah yeah well on on that bombshell i'm jason to phillippo see you next time and i'm the cue master damn it brian schulmeister thanks for

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