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32:16Yeah. So vote with your wallet, people, because that might be the only way you can vote. If anybody has anything in their wallet left, what's in your wallet? Crypto! Not much. Not much, Jason. It's time for my annual rant, Jason. We are at the MLB postseason. We're down to the wire. We're down to eight teams now. We've had the wildcard games already. and I subscribed to the MLB network to, you know, watch the baseball season. When did they stop showing games? The postseason. Because even though I paid a lot of money to watch the entire baseball season, ESPN, ABC, Fox, and TBS have all bought the rights for the postseason.

33:00So you have to have basically all of them if you want to see all the games. And you know where the games are not? They're not on the fucking MLB network. unlimited does not mean unlimited anymore brian it means the season not the postseason apparently yep again i i've i i went through this entire baseball season without even recognizing that it was baseball season so i think i'm getting good at this shit you were very good at ignoring things

33:31well we talked a few weeks back when ios 26 came out about how to go ahead and turn down the transparency and many of the other features to make it look like it was before. And I finally just said, fuck it. I'm putting it all on. I might as well get used to it. You went full liquid glass. I went full liquid glass. I've gotten used to it. It's fine. Although I didn't turn on AI. I'm not stupid. I actually did turn on the AI stuff. It's still bad. The summarizing on the notifications list. They're so far off of anything that's actually in the messages that I'm going to go read. I'm like, yeah, that still doesn't work.

34:14Not ready for prime time. Nope. What the one thing that they did do right though, finally, is they, the journal app is now available on all of their devices and cross platform and syncable. So that was, that was the original impetus why I went to the public beta for 26 on my MacBook Air, my old 13-inch MacBook Air. Right. Just to test it out to see if it actually worked. And it works great. So now I have it on my phone, my iPad, and my laptops and my desktops. Basically everything with a fucking Apple logo has it on it now. So it's nice. It made me have to go around to all of my devices and remove it.

34:55There you go. Because I don't care. Yeah, I mean, I was a fan of day one for a long time, which I'm glad I don't pay for anymore since Matty Matt Mullenweg owns it. And I'm still mad at him for all the bullshit that he did with WordPress. But, yeah, I think it's a great journaling app. You know, it's secure. You can lock it down so nobody can just wander up and, you know, read your deepest darkest thoughts. And they can just listen to this podcast and hear them all from you. That's true. That's true. Well, Brian, just imagine how juicy it is if I don't share it on this show. So pretty, pretty good stuff, man.

35:33That's good. I'm trying to tell the dog because maybe somebody will come see our show. I don't know. What do you think about that? I just don't know. I just don't know. Well, Apple doesn't know what the fuck it's going to do with his with its Vision Pro series because they just hung that up to dry. That's been clear over the last year plus. Well, they said that they were working on the new latest and greatest, you know, lighter and cheaper version of the Vision Pro headset. But it looks like now since Meta and Ray-Ban have gotten together and created that abomination of whatever the fuck it is, that they're going to pivot.

36:10So, yeah, they're going to put that on the hold and see if they can make some glasses. So I think that's going to be the next frontier are going to be smart glasses, which, you know, I'm fine with. I don't care if it's from somebody that's not fucking Mark Zuckerberg. That's true. Yeah. Johnny Ive is apparently working on that for OpenAI, which would be interesting. Yeah. Well, they said it wasn't going to be, you know, like a – they said it wasn't going to be a wearable device, but they didn't say it wasn't going to be glasses, even though glasses you can wear. I think they're trying to play a little trick of semantics there.

36:47Right. But, you know, everybody's like, oh, well, they wasted all their time on the Vision Pro. And I'm like, no, they didn't. I mean, if you pay attention to what Apple's done in the past, they will put out a product that will get them to the product that they want to be, their interstitial products. Yes. They got really lucky that their first interstitial product was the iPhone because what they originally wanted to do was make the iPad, but they couldn't. So they had to make the iPhone first. So lucked into that one. Yes. That was a lucky one, Joe. But yeah, I think they'll probably get something decent in the next.

37:19I don't know. I might be dead by then. Who the fuck cares? That's true. Speaking of semantics, Logitech has launched the signature slim solar plus K nine 80, a new solar powered keyboard that isn't fucking solar. Okay. Because you don't need to put it under the sun whenever it runs low on battery. This is pretty cool. The company says it can use light from any source to stay charged and ready to use, and that you can use it in complete darkness for up to four months. Once it's fully charged, As long as the light source reaches 200 lux and brightness, which is considered dim lighting during daytime, it can charge the keyboard.

37:55So this is pretty awesome. You don't even have to think about plugging the keyboard in or changing its battery. It's powered by a rechargeable battery that Logitech says can last up to 10 years. And if it does malfunction, the company told Verge that you can replace it on your own because it's encased in plastic and is sold by iFixit. This will be available for 100 bucks. basically if I ever need another keyboard this is the one I'm going to get yeah is it backlit? I'm trying to I don't know that but I mean the fact that you can just like leave it in a fucking sealed room with an overhead light and it's going to charge that's awesome yeah yeah I'm cool with that and I love Logitech keyboards me too I use one because it pairs with the MX Master Series really nicely I'm just seeing here powered by Logitech charge technology doesn't say anything about being backlit, which sucks because I like backlit keyboards because I do work in a darkened room all the time.

38:56But yeah, if it's anything like the other Logitech keyboards, it's going to be good. I like the key field, you know, all of that stuff. Yep. And the MX Master stuff is amazing. I love the mouse. It's fantastic. Yeah. I stopped at the two the i've got i've got the three see the three did not do it for me the the the scroll wheel by the thumb is just they fucked it up compared to the two the one and the two it's it doesn't work right the buttons aren't right but there's an mx master 4 out now so you can go get that one and that looks like it has the same stupid scroll wheel problem that the three had so maybe not all right yeah but the but for video editing and audio editing they're they're programmable to hell and back.

39:37That's what's so great about them. I'll get this keyboard maybe some year. Some year. Some year. Well, this one kind of bums me out. Amazon Fire TV devices are expected to ditch Android for Linux in 2025. Well, it is 2025, so get on it. The problem here is they're not going to update the old devices, which saddens me. I know. Because I have a Fire TV and it sucks. I've got fire sticks and I use them. I've side loaded shit. They're my pirate sticks. And I won't be able to do that with a new one, which is one of the reasons they're doing it. They don't want to let people do the nefarious things that I like to use them for.

40:21Ah, okay. So stock up. Stock up now. Stock up. Get those 4K sticks now. Yeah, because my TV, the TV is beautiful. I cannot fault the TV. It's the operating system and all the Amazon shit. So when I turn the TV on, I get ads. I get fucking Amazon ads that I don't want. And half the time it will do the thing that it's supposed to do, which is auto switch to the Apple TV. The other half it doesn't. So I got to go find it. And the menu is terrible and slow. It's ridiculously slow. And the worst part is I'll be watching something on my Apple TV and the OS on the TV will auto update in the middle of whatever I'm watching.

41:02and knock the TV out for like five to ten minutes while it updates the OS on the TV without even asking me to do it. It is so frustrating. So frustrating. Amazon Fire devices are shit. They're garbage. Or at least the OS is garbage. Like I said, the TV is beautiful. But the OS, got to go. Got to go. Yeah. We talked about the mid-journey version of their little TV where you can go look at all of the crap that's being made on mid journey, the little videos meta jumped on the bandwagon. They've got a little new thing called vibes where you can go and scroll through everything that's made on a meta's AI.

41:46It's it's, they say think of it as MTV's liquid television meets a corporate algorithm, except without the culture edge or actual human creativity. That sums it up. I looked at it for about five minutes because I just kept going hoping. And I'm like, is there anything in here that's good? No, no, not at all. It's just garbage. So, yeah, skip that one is what I'm trying to say. All right. I got something else for you to skip after coming out of nowhere. A viral new app that pays people to record their phone calls for the purpose of training AI has been yanked offline after security flaw allegedly exposed user data.

42:20Shocking. Neon launched just last week and quickly shot to the number two spot on iPhone's top free app chart before it was taken down on Thursday. Why? I have no idea. Users sign up with their phone number and grant Neon permission to record calls made via the app. Every time they place or receive a phone call from the app, it automatically records both sides of the conversation if the other party is also using Neon, or in theory, just the Neon's user's side if the person isn't on the app, and I stress in theory. The recordings and related data are then supposedly anonymized and stripped of identifying details and sold to vetted AI and data partners.

42:59Why would you do that? You can earn a hot 30 cents per minute for calls with another Neon user, or even better, 15 cents per minute when calling a non-user capped at$30 a day. Oh, God. It was pitched as a way for people to earn some money from their data, which tech companies have long profited from. Things took a turn on Thursday, just a scant three days after the app launched, after TechCrunch discovered and reported a major flaw that lets nearly anyone access sensitive Neon user data, including phone numbers, call recordings, and transcripts, so all those other AI companies could just scrape it all and not pay you.

43:39While testing the app, TechCrunch used the network traffic tool Burp Suite to analyze the data coming in and out of the app. Neon's interface only shows a simple list of a user's recent calls and how much they earned. However, using this burp suite, they were able to get a lot more info from the app's back-end servers, like full call transcripts, public links to raw audio files from other users' calls. They could also access all the metadata from users, which included both parties' phone numbers, time and duration of call, and how much each call earned. But they said, your data privacy is our number one priority, and we want to make sure it is fully secure even during this period of rapid growth.

44:16Okay. Yep. now 30 bucks a day i wish i had known about this thing before they screwed up i could get like a a bunch of burner phones bunch of phones literally have them talk to each other with gpt on voice all day long i hope somebody is doing that i seriously well they can't now but when it comes back when it comes back yeah i i mean shit man i just get a bunch of google numbers and take the 17 computers I have around here and just have them all talk to each other all day. I'm sure that's not against the terms of service. I'm sure it's not.

44:57But, you know, hey, just like the big tech companies, don't ask permission. Do it first. Exactly. I'll apologize for my cell when I have, you know, six months to time to cool my heels. You can send back that cool, like,$300 you made. Yeah. I haven't put my commissary before I go in. Keep me in ramen for the six months. Yeah. And speaking of security flaws, researchers have discovered major security flaws with tile tracking tags. According to a report by Wired, these flaws could allow both the company itself and tech savvy stalkers to track users locations. The very thing that you're not supposed to be able to let people do.

45:35The security issue could also let a malicious actor falsely frame a tile owner for stalking as the flaw can make it appear as if a particular tag is constantly in the vicinity of somebody else's tag. So this is all stat. They basically send the static MAC address and a rotating ID. The rotating ID changes all the time, but that also changes in a very discernible way, apparently. They never hide or do anything with the static MAC address. So, yeah, this is all kinds of bad. I can't believe it took this long for people to find this. Oh, God, because nobody buys tiles. Everybody buys damn AirTags.

46:09That's true. So there's that. Wired said the company stopped communicating with researchers who informed them of this back in February. So that's one way to deal with it. We're just not going to do that. Another lesson. Another lesson. Yeah. When the researchers tell you that there's a flaw, they're not going to go away. Yeah. Just because you stick your head in the sand doesn't mean they're going to stop talking about it. What did you do about this? Well, we blocked their emails. Yeah. Great. Jesus. Brian, do you remember the Comet browser from Perplexity? I do remember it being announced. Yes.

46:46Well, now it is available for everyone for free. Thanks. Yeah. It's available on Mac and Windows right now. Everybody can use it. I wonder if it has a Neon plugin. That would be fantastic. So, yeah, another piece of technology that I highly recommend. You don't install, at least not on your computer. Put it on your enemy's computer all day long. But yeah, I don't know if I have a – you know what? I just might make a new account on a machine, a clean account, and then mess around with it and put in some bogus stuff to see what it does. All right. You do that. Just to try it. I'm not touching it.

47:25Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, I used to have – my Parallels account came up for renewal. And here's the thing this week too. So many services that I had renewed that I forgot were going to renew because I forgot to put them in the calendar. What, no emails telling you that this was about to happen? Fucking zero. That is bullshit. Zero emails. Yeah. No alerts saying, hey, you're going to renew next week. You know, just letting you know, nothing. The one that pissed me off the most was Grammarly. That was$144 hit. And I would have canceled it because it's like, no, I don't need you anymore. I use a bunch of other shit and it's nice to have, but it's not a need to have.

48:06What I need to have is that$144 because that$144 you took was going to my fucking health insurance payment, which I couldn't pay because you fucking took my money, you assholes. Oh, it's getting bad. It is getting bad. So I did from the nice people at Parallels get an email this week that said, hey, you're going to renew. It's going to cost you a bunch of money. You sure you want to keep it? I'm like, no, I don't. So thank you, Parallels. There you go.

48:40The Dark Side with Dave.

48:48Welcome to the Dark Side with Dave. Podcast super host Dave Bittner decodes all things cyber on the cyber wire every single day. Exposes deception with Joe Kerrigan on hacking humans, dives deep into privacy with Ben Yellen on caveat, breaks down industrial cybersecurity on control loop and even brings the chuckles on only malware in the building, sometimes with extra hot sauce. Hi, Dave. Hello. So we we've talked about the Princess Bride and a surprising number, a surprising number of our Discord users, A, either haven't seen the Princess Bride or B, have just seen the Princess Bride and hated it.

49:24when they watched it. And by a surprising number of our Discord users, I mean a number greater than zero. Two. Two people. Two people hated it. Okay. That's a lot. No, I'm sorry. No, but there's a very obvious reason for it. And it's what I call the great Goonies divide. And which is you have to be a certain age the first time you see these movies. If you were older when the Goonies came out, adults at the time, they did not particularly care for the movie. And if you manage to avoid the Goonies when you are, say, if you're roughly our age, when it came out, and you didn't watch it until you were an adult, it's not that great.

50:06It's great because you have these awesome childhood memories of it and you saw it at the right time. Hmm. Yeah, I was following a similar line of thought, which is that there are a lot of movies that don't hold up for a variety of reasons. In my mind, the one I usually come to is Caddyshack. Shaddy Shack. Yep. Shaddy Shack. Love that movie. Which we all love, right? Hilarious, but it does not hold up. My experience anyway is that it does not hold up with the younger generation. I've shown it to both of my boys and they're like, well, I mean, I see how you think it's funny. and I'm glad I saw it because now I understand a lot of the things that you and mom say all the time.

50:58You'll get nothing and like it. But, you know, it just doesn't hold up. So I guess my question is, has the Princess Bride, has time put the Princess Bride in that category where for pacing or just the type of humor that it has in it and so on and so forth, does it no longer resonate with the upcoming generation? Well, I would say no to that because my son loved it. Again, I think it really comes down to the age at which you see it. I think it's very important that you see it before you're older and jaded. Yeah. Okay. I saw it in high school. I mean, I saw it in the theater. I was 17 or 18. Of course, loved it.

51:47Yeah. Somebody brought up the production value, too. They said that it was so cheesy because the – But that's part of its charm. Yeah. See, we didn't have like crazy CG and stuff back then. The ROUSs were literally a dude in a rat suit. Right. It was not good, but it was still funny. So – Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's another interesting question is in this age of AI and computer generated special effects, how much of how much is the current generation willing to suspend their disbelief? They tend not to be. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we would watch, you know, old, I don't know. Star Trek. Well, Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein, right?

52:37Yeah. That sort of thing. Batman in the 60s. Yeah. Yeah. The fly. Obvious. Well, I mean, look, the cantina scene in Star Wars. Yeah. Which we'll get to in a bit. But right. So I don't know. I mean, look, there is no right or wrong when it comes to how someone perceives. And how someone perceives art. There absolutely is. Okay. You sound like me, Brian. If someone doesn't enjoy something, that's fine. And if they love it, then that's fine, too. I think it's surprising that people wouldn't enjoy The Princess Bride. But for all these reasons we've stated, I don't question it. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just the way it is.

53:32Yeah. Doesn't mean they're not wrong. Well, my son watched Blade Runner over the weekend. For the first time, he's taking a film class and Blade Runner was on his list of required watching. And so he watched it and overall he enjoyed it. But he said to me, yeah, I mean, it's kind of got it's got old movie pacing. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Old movies are slow. Yeah, they're much slower. We don't think of Blade Runner as being slow. But by modern sensibilities, it is. what's interesting is i watched i re-watched blue thunder this week and that movie i there's i there's more of that movie in my imagination than there actually was on the screen it's a 90 minute movie it's a 90 minute movie and it moves actually really fast for a movie from the early 80s and it's it's still really entertaining i mean it is a great movie I think, start to finish.

54:35Is that the one where they put in like whisper mode on the helicopter to be able to look in the naked lady's window or something? Yeah, there's the memorable scene for Dave. That's what I remember from watching it on HBO. And here's where the Mandela effect comes in. I love it's a Mandela effect. Whisper mode was not part of that scene where they're looking at the lady doing the naked yoga. They were in the regular helicopter staring in her window. Okay, well, there you go. Yeah, and they got chased off because the neighbor looked out and was this fucking helicopter next to my house. But it is a fine scene to go watch the movie for again, I would say.

55:13Throwing no shade for my memory. No, no, no. That part, spot on. The naked yoga scene was awesome. You can just see naked yoga on various websites these days, I'm just going to point out. Right. Yeah, but it's better on the big screen. It's not the same. Yeah, it's vintage. It's better. Retro. Yeah, exactly. It's more cinemagraphic. Cinemagraphic. You need to make t-shirts. Just have the word cinemagraphic. Big pixelated boobs. Right. Cinemological. Cinemological. Cinemagraphic. but anyway the pacing was actually really fast in that one and it was so fast that i made up parts in my memory too but um you know what's worth it for is the practical helicopter effects because they're not effects they're practical helicopter stunts and they are mind-boggling what they do with helicopters back then i don't know i saw the matrix well you know that we that was another one i watched with my son i watched with him was the matrix the original matrix which i hadn't seen in probably 20 years right uh same thing he said hey jack what do you think he said i enjoyed it it was pretty slow in parts wow yeah yeah that's that's crazy yeah but he was right and and in watching it with him because some of the stuff like the The high pacing of the fight scenes, which was brand new in The Matrix, is now routine.

56:52And so in The Matrix, they go on a little long with it because it's new and interesting. Our eyes were wide open when we watched it. But now it's like, OK, we got that. We get it. Come move on. All right. Yeah, fine. He's dodging bullets. Got it. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Brian, when your kid grows up, he's going to see John Wick and go, yeah, the pacing was just a little too slow. I couldn't handle it. What are you talking about? There's going to be 30 second edits of it on the, whatever the future tick tock is. And that's all he's going to see. Yeah. Right. Hardwired into his brain. Yeah.

57:21He won't watch it so much as absorb it. Yeah. Well, we're both, well, Dave and I are both going off to our respective vacations pretty soon into our respective Disney parks. Dave, I believe you're going to Disney world and I will be visiting Disneyland Paris for the first time. So I'm very excited about that. Yeah. I did see this article in Gizmodo, the best disney park ride overlays and where to find them a lot of these are up to you to go see if you can because they're at walt disney world of course the most famous one i've seen many times at disneyland in anaheim the haunted mansion overlay where they do the nightmare before christmas stuff yeah i've never seen any of these other ones although i will say the inclusion of it's a small world is a bit of a cheat that's not so much an overlay is that They've started to put Disney characters into the ride for the younger generations that are very bored by the very slow pacing of It's a Small World.

58:16So they're trying to throw in stuff that they'd recognize, and I've seen those as well. But a lot of these are definitely over at Disney World. The one I most wanted to see, which I guess nobody gets to see because they stopped doing it in 2017, is the Jingle Cruise, the overlay for Jungle Cruise, where they make a bunch of Christmas jokes. That would be awesome. Yeah, that would be good. That one I've never seen. They will be doing the Tron Light Cycle Nine Inch Nails overlay while we're there. Very cool. So we'll get to see that. I can't say that I know anything about Nine Inch Nails except the name of the band.

58:55Not surprised. Yeah, if you asked me to name a Nine Inch Nails song, I would not be able to do so. I'm sure there are Nine Inch Nails songs you could play and I'd say, oh, yeah, I know that. But I claim ignorance when it comes to Nine Inch Nails. My poor goth heart is bleeding black right now. I know. I claim ignorance on overlay. What is an overlay for those of us who are not disnophiles? When they take the normal ride and augment it for a promotion or season or whatever, Like they take the normal Haunted Mansion and they basically shut it down for two weeks and they put in all these Nightmare Before Christmas theme into it.

59:38Okay. So it's not so much a crossover but a takeover. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Yeah. So you get a special version of a ride that you've been on a hundred times. Right. To make it a little more interesting. It's a small world as a crossover. That's the difference. Okay. Yes. Got it. So I have seen the Haunted Mansion Nightmare Before Christmas, which is great. I've seen Space Mountain when they do Hyperspace Mountain. I have not. I want to very badly. Yeah. It's just Space Mountain with Star Wars music and they project things onto the ceiling. Like X-Wings and TIE fighters. Yep. That's fun.

1:00:19I have not spotted Baby Groot in It's a Small World. um my sons went on the guardians of the galaxy mission breakout after a dark thing i wrote it during the day they went back at night and wrote it and said it was amazing uh and then this cosmic rewind with a holiday remix i guess they only did that one season so that i'd like to see um i have written uh this the cosmic rewind i say i've been on it twice and I think both times we got the music September on it, which was great. What I'd love to do, what I'm hoping for this time is that I get Disco Inferno. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be my other choice.

1:01:02I was not aware of the Jingle Cruise. There's Living with the Land Glimmering Greenhouses. I don't know. I guess if that's up, we'll do that while we're there. There's a bunch of things that are closed while we're going to be there because that's one of the downsides about going off season is. Things are being refurbed. Same at Disneyland Paris. The one ride I really wanted to do was the Remy one, and that's shut down and getting refurbished. Oh, okay. Bit of a bummer. Yeah, that's just one ride. Yeah. I mean, the other thing is the rides are around forever. Yeah. So it's not like – I have a friend who did motion graphics work for Disney World rides, and he was saying the cool thing is that you get to do work for these rides so you get to see them he said but the pain is that the work you do for them will run for 20 years so yeah you're not getting royalties you're not getting royalties and there's not much repeat business because they are they rare so rarely change things yeah parks yeah so but yeah i'm looking forward to our trip.

1:02:12I'm definitely ready. I think I mentioned before, it's the first time my wife and I have been back to Disney World since we had kids without kids. So I'm not sure what we're going to make of our freedom. You're going to enjoy all the alcohol in the park. That is true. We're definitely going to do that. I think we're going to enjoy a lot of nice meals and go to restaurants that we normally wouldn't go to or in the past couldn't afford to go to. So that'll be fun. Full recap in a couple weeks from both of us. Yeah, there you go. Yay.

1:02:51Jason can take the segment off. I'll tell you where the button is. You guys can press it, record it, send it to me when you're done. Yeah, I'm familiar with that. I put a link in here to a YouTube video. The Home Depot R2D2s are hitting stores, and people are buying them and unboxing them and assembling them. um i i swear i'm not making this up when we hang up here today i'm going to be driving over to my local home depot to see if they have them in stock it is impressive yeah if they do i'm going to be buying one yeah uh i do like the fact that they have made it so that it is it it is no effort at all to un holiday your r2d2 well it's just a string of lights on it so right but but they didn't like make it so that you had to clip any wires or perform any serious modifications that just don't put them on and there's r2d2 yeah uh so good for them so yes uh i will be getting mine as soon as i can find one to buy uh it is the hot item at home depot right now so wish me luck beware of all the ice agents right he's fine he's the right color he's very pale i do have dark hair though i know but they're running through the aisles they cause a trip and fall hazard oh yeah i like that the youtube channel that you link to is 1313 harbor props which 1313 harbor is the address for disneyland in anaheim oh yeah i didn't know that all right nerd nerd it was my fucking neighborhood i just know the address right right so i mean it was written right there on the restraining order yeah pretty much i have to stay luckily it was only a two block radius and my mom's house is three blocks away right right uh i do know that i do know the address for paramount studios so i guess i guess it works yeah yeah okay so here's a question for the two of you my son jack has a girlfriend uh so she's 19 years old and she's never seen star wars oh you're asking a question about star wars i was asking i would recommend lube and a rubber as my dad said no diseases yeah i have had all those conversations with jack and i feel as though he's in he's in good you guys watch the boys together that's all you need god oh yeah that's true although um we watched the first episode of uh what's the one gen v yeah the first episode of season two and we pulled the ripcord we're done you are yeah it was just we both we both looked at each other and we're like this that was terrible it was terrible i kind of liked it but in in hindsight i'm like i have not felt the need to go back and watch another episode at all zero so we'll watch the boys proper when it comes out and hopefully it won't disappoint us but uh yeah we're done with the gen v thing okay anyway star wars so back to star wars so she's 19 or so years old has never seen anything star wars right nothing no movies no tv shows nothing so and generally she's not someone who's into sci-fi okay so yeah my son is trying to figure out what the best way right what the best way is lisa no like you i said good day sir um how to introduce her to star wars and so basically what we've come down to is does he does he show her a new hope or does he show her either and or or rogue one because those are the most modern star wars that will uh appeal to modern sensibilities i'd go straight chronological chronological release in universe no in universe chronological i'd start with uh phantom medicine and go from there see he uh he's he's he doesn't want to start her with the prequels yeah because they suck but i mean yeah i mean apparently there but they've had this whole renaissance particularly amongst the younger generation that's the thing that i don't understand and why i'm saying maybe you should go that way according to everything i read online those are their favorites from that age group they love those movies because kids have no taste anymore so it's perfect Well, no, it's what they grew up with.

1:07:33My argument was to watch A New Hope because it is still a roller coaster ride. It mostly holds up. It does not drag. I don't know. Every movie we just talked about having pacing issues, that absolutely exists in A New Hope. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. What would you consider to be a slow scene in A New Hope? Staring at the two suns rising. Oh.

1:08:03But the music, Brian, the music. The long shots of the 1970s computer graphics in the X-Wing. The droids walking across the desert. I'll grant you that. Damn near everything. Now, I'm not saying, again, obviously, A New Hope is a masterpiece, but, you know, there you go. See if you can find a TikTok cut of it. By the way, what would you think is the worst movie of all time for that? for the pacing issues and i can tell you what just popped into my head immediately 2001 a space odyssey oh yeah that entire movie is a slow pace yeah that's true it's a great movie but jesus yeah you have to be committed stone or stone right you have to be in a frame of mind where time has no meaning.

1:08:57Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I don't know. My vote would be to go straight in-universe chronological, but I do agree that Rebel One. Rogue One. Rogue One is probably a really interesting starting point because it is the most modern. It's pretty quick-paced, and it's vital, really, to the whole story. Right. Yeah. Right. That's true because... Yeah, it introduces her to the Death Star and all that stuff. Well, and you can roll from Rogue One right into A New Hope. Yeah, and there's very little Force bullshit. It's pretty much a straightforward action movie. Yeah, that's true.

1:09:38Han Solo. Just take it with Han Solo.

1:09:44Chicks love Han Solo. Of course, the alternative is that he could just not show her anything Star Wars, and that way she gets to remain his girlfriend. Option number three sounds the best. Right. Right. Do you really want to go there? Option number four, you go to Comic-Con and find a new girlfriend. Yeah. Right. Yeah. There you go. All right. Well, I'll let you know what he decides. Yeah, I'll let you know what he decides. And if suddenly she no longer shows up at the house, we'll know what happened. She's going to show up in a slave Leah outfit. Yeah. Converted her. Right. It worked. It worked.

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