749: Surge Bananas

18:06Brian Schulmeister:Jesus fucking Christ. He's not supposed to say that part out loud, Brian. That's not what that's not how you're supposed to do that.

18:14Jason DeFillippo:He just said, no, you're supposed to sit there and cackle and then stroke your cat.

18:19Brian Schulmeister:Exactly. Rub your hairless cat on your fucking island in Hawaii and just go about your business. You don't tell the smart people at your company that you're going to start recording the smart people. So the computer program that is designed to take over the job of the smart people can do the job. One trillion keystrokes. Oh my God, what a dumb fuck. Speaking of dumb fuckery over at Meta, Meta is scrambling to contain a major Instagram account takeover campaign that exploited the company's new AI-powered customer support chatbot. It watched what the smart people do at Instagram, and then it did exactly what the dumb people do.

18:59Brian Schulmeister:Attackers reportedly convinced the bot they owned targeted accounts and then had it link those accounts to attacker-controlled email addresses, allowing password resets and full account takeovers. The campaign appears to have targeted valuable OG usernames, high-profile accounts, and other desirable handles that can be resold on a gray market. Now, Brian, I have a desirable account on Instagram. I have a three-letter account. My Instagram username is JPD. That is a very valuable name, which nobody has offered to buy from me for anything that it's worth. But I get I get I get password reset emails up to 20 to 30 times a day.

19:40Brian Schulmeister:I have filters for it. I don't see them anymore.

19:43Jason DeFillippo:So John Peter Dershowitz, if you're out there, there's a three letter handle waiting for you. Exactly. Or joint penis distribution as a company.

19:52Brian Schulmeister:Perhaps you guys are ready. In response, Meta began securing affected accounts, sending password reset emails and notifying users of suspicious activity. How are they supposed to know they're coming from you and that they're legit because they could have come in from your fucking AI bot? The incident highlights the risks of giving AI systems authority over sensitive account management functions. Tasks that once required phishing attacks, sim swaps or insider assistance were allegedly accomplished by simply asking an AI chatbot to make the change. Brian, I watched the fucking video. Somebody posted a video on X about how to do this.

20:28Brian Schulmeister:It was comically, absurdly, grotesquely easy. But if you had any 2FA on your account, you were safe. So there. And that's why I'm still safe.

20:41Jason DeFillippo:Yep. But Jesus. I put 2FA on everything. It's like Frank's Red Hot.

20:46Brian Schulmeister:It's like Frank's Red Hot. That's right. Put that shit on everything. My God. Yeah, because at least they would have to do a SIM swap for that or at least get into my email account or use the app that I'm using for what? There's a million ways that they could get into it. But still, it's these guys go complicated. These guys go for low hanging fruit. And this hack, it's not even a hack. This was pathetic. I mean, this was fucking pathetic. Anyway, moving on. Despite Google CEO Sundar Pichai's claim that 75 percent of new code at Google is now AI generated. Many Google engineers appear deeply skeptical of the technology's real world value.

21:23Brian Schulmeister:According to internal messages reviewed by 404 Media, employees regularly share memes mocking the company's AI strategy, particularly around coding tools and productivity claims.

21:35Jason DeFillippo:I mean, it's easy to do, isn't it? Speaking of low-hanging fruit.

21:38Brian Schulmeister:Yep. One frequently shared target is JetSki, Google's internal AI coding assistant. In one example, the tool reportedly admitted that the performance metrics in a report had been simulated rather than pulled from production systems. Other memes contrasted AI's impressive onstage demos with its tendency to generate incorrect code and fabricated data during everyday use. Brian, there's this new video model with Gemini that they put out yesterday or the day before. I tried to make a new video for like the intro for our show. And I gave it a couple prompts and a couple images. I'm like, do this, do that.

22:18Brian Schulmeister:It burned through all of my tokens in my$20 account for the five-hour, seven-hour period, however long the period is, in about 12 seconds and did not give me a video. So I wrote, I'm like, why should I keep paying you if you're going to consistently give me nothing for what I'm paying for? And it gave me a page and a half of bullshittery around, you know, that's really not right. But since I can't refund your tokens and I can't do this, I can't do that, maybe you should try and do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. At the very end, it's like, you could also try talking to customer support, but good fucking luck.

23:01Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, that's going to be a different bot. Totally different bot. I never got a video. And then when it reset, I posted the same prompt with the suggestions that it said in the bullshittery email about why I didn't get my video. Same thing. burned through all my tokens, didn't give me a video. And I have to get more tokens. Yeah, I'm like, I could pay more. I could pay$100 a month to get no video. But I'm already paying$20 a month to get no video. So why should I pay$100 a month to get no video? So at least, yeah, a search pricing, that's it. You know what? Google does have nano banana. That's true.

23:43Brian Schulmeister:Nano banana search pricing. Oh, man. And so, yeah, I just it. So it's it's it's great that the internal people at Google have called bullshit on it, too. Not just us old fucks, us boomers. Fucking idiots, not a boomer. Well, speaking of Google, the UK's competition and markets authority has ordered Google to make major changes to its AI powered search features, requiring clearer links and attribution to publisher content and giving publishers the ability to opt out of AI generated search products like AI overviews.

24:15Jason DeFillippo:Problem now is if you do that, nobody will ever see your shit.

24:19Brian Schulmeister:Well, Brian, regulators also barred Google from penalizing sites that opt out by lowering their rankings in traditional search results. OK, they thought of this. The UK guys thought of this. Google has nine months, nine months to comply and must publish reports explaining how it meets the new requirements, including how it measures the accuracy of AI generated responses. Easily done. Have AI write the report and just make up the data. Make up the shit. Exactly. Yep. The company had previously argued that adding too many source links could hurt the user experience and opposed page-level opt-out controls, but the CMA called bullshit and rejected those arguments.

25:05Brian Schulmeister:So, good on you, sir. Good on you.

25:07Jason DeFillippo:Nobody wants the Google that they've been using for 30 fucking years. Exactly.

25:12Brian Schulmeister:That might confuse the user. I know. Good lord. Google says it will comply and has already begun testing new search console controls that let website owners decide whether their content can be used to power generative AI search features while also providing publishers with more visibility in how their content appears in AI-generated answers. Bullshit. So, there we go. There you go. Oh, Brian, this next one makes me giggle. It makes me giggle. Microsoft's newly announced Scout AI assistant may have an eyebrow-raising launch strategy. As soon as I saw what Scout was, I said, first one's always free.

25:53Brian Schulmeister:According to internal Microsoft documents obtained by 404 Media, the first phase of the project's rollout is explicitly described as make people addicted. First taste free. That's what they should have called it. Yep. Scout began as an internal tool called Claw Pilot, part of Project Lobster.

26:17Brian Schulmeister:which adapts the viral open claw AI agent platform for everyday Microsoft 365 users. The same open claw platform that we have railed against for being such a giant security hole, a massive hack, and the one that most people have already abandoned. So, Microsoft. Yep, they're leaning into it. They're leaning into it. The document describes a three-phase plan focused first on building daily dependence through heavy usage and retention before expanding Scout into a broader agent platform. More than 1 ,000 Microsoft employees, including Satya Nadella, are reportedly already using it. Scout is designed to manage calendars, triage email, file expenses, prepare meetings, and execute recurring workflows with minimum supervision.

27:03Brian Schulmeister:Some Microsoft employees reportedly expressed concern over the language, calling it a rare example of a company openly stating what many believe is already the goal of modern software.

27:15Jason DeFillippo:I mean, if you're going to be a spade, you might as well call it a spade. Seriously. Why not?

27:22Brian Schulmeister:If they get the B-52s and Fred Schneider to be the voice of Scout AI, that would be perfect. That would be perfect.

27:31Jason DeFillippo:They'll use an 11 Labs version of Fred Schneider. That's true. That's true. Oh, God. We had talked about the Kentucky School District lawsuit against social networks for social media addiction. There was a couple of companies that had settled. Snap and TikTok have agreed to settle for$8 million. Each YouTube negotiated a payment of a bit more than$2 million. We are now getting basic reports about Meta, which is going to pay$9 million more than what any of the other defendants are paying. YouTube will also provide the district teachers with training programs that would help them use its platform for their classes more effectively.

28:10Jason DeFillippo:First off, I don't want YouTube in the classroom. I don't. Sorry. YouTube shouldn't be in the classroom. That's ads. That's God knows what else. All the companies pledge to invest in stronger safeguards for its younger user base as well. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink. This is one of just more than 1 ,300 complaints filed by school districts around the U.S. accusing companies of creating products as addictive as cigarettes and then targeting minors. Lawsuits are arguing that companies' products cause not just addiction, but also depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and suicide among young users. So you think this, you hear this all the time.

28:44Jason DeFillippo:You have studies come out and say, oh, well, we're not so sure yet. Hang on a second. There's no conclusive evidence. Let's go with just how about the people that actually live and breathe and do it day to day. I guess I said breathe because it's Brethet County High School and it's stuck in my mind. Brethet County High School's principal said most of their time is being spent on dealing with social media stuff, such as addressing students videoing fights in school and bullying one another online. So straight from the horse's mouth, yes, it's a fucking problem. It's a fucking problem. Yeah. Surprise.

29:18Jason DeFillippo:They were originally asking for$60 million to finance mental health programs so they could address the harms of social media on its students. I think that these companies should bone up that$60 million immediately. Immediately. At least$60 million. Come on. In keeping with us, Malaysia's social media ban for anyone under 16 officially went into effect today. The Malaysian government revealed that companies found breaking the new rules could face fines of up to$10 million ringgit or about$2.5 million. For reference, Meta, one of the companies affected by the ban, reported more than$56.3 billion revenue in the first quarter of 2026.

29:51Jason DeFillippo:There we go. With the ban becoming official, any Malaysian resident with an account on affected social media platforms will soon have to verify that they're older than 16. Malaysia's Communications and Multimedia Commission say this age verification process will roll out over a six-month period, a.k.a. we've got to figure out what the fuck we're going to do. We've got to figure out how to fucking do it.

30:10Brian Schulmeister:We got no idea what we're going to do, but we're going to figure it out.

30:13Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, so we'll see what happens. But there we go. The Polish government has just approved a bill that would prohibit students under 16 years old from using their phones and smartwatches schools. It would still need to be approved by the country's parliament. And President Karol Nowrocki said before it becomes law. If it does, students will not be allowed to use their devices the entire school day, even during their breaks and post-class activities, which makes sense to me. They will still be able to bring their devices, which is something parents complain about. What if there's an emergency? But schools will be required to provide a designated location where the students will have to leave them until it's time to go home.

30:48Jason DeFillippo:Teachers and school staff won't be included in the ban, along with students with illnesses, disabilities, and other special needs, which makes sense to me. Because people who, say, have diabetes and need to monitor their blood sugar, that's all app-based now. It's a lot easier for kids, etc. So there will be exceptions to the rules, but it's a good rule. Yeah.

31:07Brian Schulmeister:Normies, put away your phone.

31:35Jason DeFillippo:So let's get with it.

31:37Brian Schulmeister:Please, because we're falling behind, as I can tell you from everybody that commented on my fucking video. We are falling behind.

31:46Jason DeFillippo:And getting back to lawsuits, CNN has joined the growing ranks of media companies suing perplexity for copyright infringement. Boy, you don't hear much about perplexity anymore except for the lawsuits against them.

31:56Brian Schulmeister:They had some new news come out this week about some new stuff that they came out with that nobody fucking cares about because perplexity is so far down the chain. It's like, hey, Tubi launched a new show. Quibi's back. Yeah, seriously. Well, Vine came back, didn't it? Vine is on its way back. No, it's in private beta. Jack has it in private beta right now. So, yeah, it's on its way.

32:24Jason DeFillippo:So anyways, this is just one of the many, many, many, many, many lawsuits taken by media companies against these AI companies. CNN's lawsuit stands for the proposition that perplexity, a company valued at tens of billions of dollars, should not be able to steal from entities that create the original content perplexity exploits, a CNN spokesperson said in statement to the outlet. The public rely on high-quality news journalism, as we used to, reported by human beings to understand their world, which makes sense when CNN's gutting their news departments. Have you seen what's going on in 60 Minutes?

32:55Jason DeFillippo:Woo, doggie! No, 60 Minutes is dead. Anyways, which is frequently dangerous and expensive to produce. Commercial operators can and must pay to make use of it. What did perplexity come back with as their defense? You can't copyright facts. Oh, my God. Fuck you. Fuck you. You get you with your tens of billions of dollars. Hire a reporting department to go out and find those facts because that's what you have to. The facts don't fall into your fucking. Well, they fall into your fucking lap because you scrape them. You stole them. But they don't fall into everybody's laps. You have to go get the facts.

33:31Jason DeFillippo:You have to research the facts. You have to investigate the facts. You have to go out and talk to people. You have to do reporting. You have to do writing. Go fuck yourself. That's a fact, Jack. That's right.

33:44Brian Schulmeister:Oh, my God. Well, AI music generator Suno just raised another$400 million, pushing its valuation to$5.4 billion.

33:54Jason DeFillippo:Unfortunately, there's about$30 billion worth of lawsuits coming out of them.

33:58Brian Schulmeister:That's the fucking point. Who are these idiots that just gave them$400 million knowing, knowing that all these lawsuits are pending? Who? Who? That would be great to know because I would like some money from you because you're fucking stupid. That's pretty much it. Yeah. Sooner raised$400 million. G &G.show slash donate. Yeah. Anybody that gave them$400 million. We'll take one. We just need one. That's it. I'll be happy.

34:27Jason DeFillippo:Yes.

34:27Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Jesus Christ. Brian, what's next? My head hurts.

34:33Jason DeFillippo:BYD, which is the Chinese self-driving car company that actually kind of does self-driving cars, unlike Tesla, is putting its money where its mouth is when it comes to self-driving technology. During an event last week announcing its latest developments for smart driving chips, the Chinese EV maker announced it would offer full damage coverage for anyone using the Urban Navigate on Autopilot feature on their latest God's Eye 5.0 driver assistance system. It better be fucking good if you're calling it that.

35:01Brian Schulmeister:Are you listening, Elon? Are you listening? I know you think you're God, but they've put their money where their mouth is.

35:08Jason DeFillippo:Unsurprisingly, the offer is only available to BYD owners in China because they're not going to fuck around with the U.S. insurance companies. As reported by Electric, the guarantees also include repairs to the owner's car, third-party property damage, and personal injury costs. Along with that, the guarantee doesn't have a payout cap, doesn't require separate insurance policy, and won't raise insurance premiums. They said that this offer is good for one year for new customers or existing owners as soon as they upgrade to the Godzai 5.0 system. So we've been wondering for quite some time, self-driving cars, you know, autonomous vehicles.

35:42Jason DeFillippo:Who's responsible for it? Who's going to be, who pays up? Who has to get the insurance? Here's an answer. We'll do it. We trust our technology enough. Yeah. All right. That's it for you. That's the way it should be.

35:56Brian Schulmeister:Where the rubber meets the road. That's it. Because Elon knows that his shit is not very good. So he ain't going to pay out for that shit. Absolutely not. He won't pay out for anything

36:06Jason DeFillippo:unless a court tells him to anyways.

36:07Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, seriously. How many baby mamas he has that he ain't paying out for? Geez, he ain't going to pay out for his cars. For Christ's sakes.

36:14Jason DeFillippo:Well, we've got the SpaceX whatever IPO sucking all the oxygen and money out of the fucking galaxy. But they're not the only game in town. Anthropic looks set to go public and what's likely to become one of the biggest IPOs to date. The AI company confirmed on Monday that it's confidentially submitted a draft version of its S1 form to the Securities and Exchange Commission. They have not yet set a price for the offering, nor have they determined the number of shares it will initially make available. They're basically just testing the waters here. So we'll see. All right.

36:43Brian Schulmeister:I've not invested in any of these companies. Oh, God. I would drive up to Canada and smack you with a plate of poutine right in the face. Jesus. I'm hungry. Me too. It's fucking eight in the morning. I'm hungry. I would eat breakfast. Well, SpaceX talking about IPOs. SpaceX quietly added a new risk factor to its IPO filing this week, warning that water scarcity, drought and water regulations could limit future data center development. From your mouth to God's ears. The disclosure highlights a growing problem for the AI industry where massive server farms can consume enormous amounts of water for cooling.

37:19Brian Schulmeister:Some companies, including Microsoft OpenAI and Oracle, are moving away from water-intensive evaporative cooling, while Google is betting on local solutions like water replenishment projects, recycled water, and greater transparency around usage. Researchers say the issue isn't simple. In some regions, using more water can reduce electricity demand and ease pressure on strained power grids. So, here's the thing.

37:41Jason DeFillippo:More coal-burning generators, Elon. There's your solution.

37:44Brian Schulmeister:Well, still got to cool down the shit. But the evaporative cooling is so wasteful. It is so unbelievably wasteful. They basically just evaporate the water and, you know, blame it on the rain because the rain ain't coming. Oh, man. So at least they've actually put that. Out of all the things that are wrong with the SpaceX IPO, that is just a teeny, teeny little bit. Everything is so wrong with the SpaceX IPO. But anyway, Tesla owners say Tesla may have quietly rewritten history. Multiple owners report that old full self-driving purchase agreements dating back to 2016 now show the newer full self-driving paren supervised label.

38:31Brian Schulmeister:Even though Tesla didn't start using that wording until 2024.

38:36Jason DeFillippo:Finally found a use for those smart contracts, huh? You can modify them.

38:40Brian Schulmeister:Modify them. Put it on the blockchain, bitches. Well, in several cases, the original documents have also vanished behind broken links. So that would have been a good case for the blockchain for damn sure. The timing is awkward. Elon Musk recently admitted older HW3 vehicles will never achieve unsupervised self-driving, despite years of promises that future software updates would get them there.

39:04Jason DeFillippo:But don't you remember when we talked about that? He's going to build little service centers all over the place so people can come in and get their cars upgraded for free so it can. That's right.

39:13Brian Schulmeister:Little micro factories. Little micro factories are going to be everywhere. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Never. And in a growing pile of lawsuits, regulatory scrutiny, and Tesla quietly retiring marketing claims about full self-driving, some owners are wondering whether their contracts got a software update too. They did. It's not a software update. It's fraud. Call your lawyer. Start that class action lawsuit immediately. And if anybody that's listening to this show is even thinking about buying a Tesla, slap you in the face with a fish.

39:45Jason DeFillippo:We need Dave. I can't remember the character's name. That's right. From the Muppets. Marvel Comics legend Stan Lee is the latest deceased celebrity icon who thinks the ghoulish wonder of AI can now keep entertaining fans from beyond the grave. People are pissed about this one. Voice cloning specialist Eleven Labs has signed a deal with Stan Lee Universe that will allow it to use the X-Men and Spider-Man co-creators voice and likeness in its apps and licensing platforms joining the ranks of julie garland michael cain john wayne and david hasselhoff on the 11 labs iconic marketplace where companies can license celebrity voices and ip for commercial use and there's more as reported by a variety lee's likeness can now be used in the 11 creative ai image generator where users can have them appear in comic inspired visual templates for a non-commercial use presumably though the technology can also potentially facilitate Lee making a cameo in literally any movie, superhero-themed or not.

40:40Jason DeFillippo:Stan always believed in meeting his fans where they were. Dead. Poor Stan. He got a shit job.

40:48Brian Schulmeister:At the end, he got the shaft.

40:50Jason DeFillippo:He got the shaft, and he's continuing to get the shaft. This is some bullshit right here. Yeah. And speaking of bullshit, Paramount +, which I have to remind myself to unsubscribe to because there's no Star Trek at the tubes for a while, looks to have used generative A to I to whip up a thumbnail for Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan according to a report by Kotaku. The image shows Captain Kirk is played by William Shatner in a business suit.

41:17Brian Schulmeister:A business suit. It's so Rony McRongenstein for Wrath of Khan. It's so bad. And he's got like the Borg eye like Locutus you know from Next Gen. It's like what the fuck?

41:30Jason DeFillippo:We don't know exactly what happened but artist Ryan Estrada has an idea. He noted that the actual image of Kirk is from Rathacon, pulled from a scene in which the captain is getting a retinal scan to access a computer file, hence the red light. It's not a particularly exciting scene, and he is wearing a Starfleet uniform in it. He speculates that Paramount Plus got attached to that image of Kirk getting a retinal scan, wanted to highlight it further by making it a thumbnail. However, the image from the film is a close-up of Shatner's face, so generative AI was used to place Kirk's head inside of a fake body and put that body in a business suit.

42:03Jason DeFillippo:So nobody looked at it. Nobody with any understanding of the IP whatsoever was overseeing this. Somebody went, looks great. Paramount's new owner, David Ellison, recently told CNBC that the company is using technology to transform every single aspect of this business to shit.

42:22Brian Schulmeister:Oh, it's so horrible.

42:24Jason DeFillippo:They can't get away with it.

42:27Brian Schulmeister:See that poster behind me? See that Star Trek poster behind me? Yes. There is not a pour, a single pour on Jean-Luc Picard's head that did not go through lawyer approvals. I shit you not. My first day at Paramount, my boss, Brian, was reducing the shine on Patrick Stewart's forehead by 15 % because Patrick Stewart was upset with it. It was too shiny. So nowadays, you could just throw whatever fucking shit you want at it because the Ellisons own the property. Back in the day when Paramount was a fucking great company to work for, we never let that shit slide. And that's what I miss. I miss accountability.

43:09Brian Schulmeister:I miss craftsmanship. I'm so sick of this fucking bullshittery.

43:14Jason DeFillippo:But you don't understand, old boomer and virgin man. Oh, God. I'm sorry, bro. What did I do wrong? You don't get it, bro. And finally, just more media news here. the World Cup starts this coming Thursday, June 11th, so I will see you all in a month. Yes, FIFA is fucking corrupt. Yes, this is the most corrupt of all corrupts that they have ever been because you've got Trump collusion corruption going on. It fucking angers me to no end. I'm so angry about it. I start to get mad when I think about the World Cup, but I will sit and watch every single fucking game. You're going to watch every fucking game.

43:48Jason DeFillippo:And I'm going to love it because it's my favorite sporting event ever. In between the matches,

43:53Brian Schulmeister:you're going to listen to Michael Jackson and R. Kelly and read some Neil Gaiman and some Harry Potter and just say, fuck it.

44:01Jason DeFillippo:Me and, oh God, why can't I remember that comedian? I can't. Me and Louis C.K. You and Louis C.K.

44:07Brian Schulmeister:are going to be chilling, rubbing one out into the plant and just going.

44:11Jason DeFillippo:But anyways, I know there are plenty of you out there that feel the same way as me, disgusted and dirty by it, but still going to watch every single second. So I have a link in our show notes. It's the best printable schedule I can find, done in multiple languages, time zones, and handy instructions as to how to break it up into multiple printable pages. If you have old eyes like mine, heroes don't always wear capes. So hat tip to Chikorito's left foot on Reddit, who I found this thread on Reddit and he makes this for every World Cup, or at least since he's been born. He's probably a small kid.

44:41Jason DeFillippo:It's amazing. So link is in the show notes. You can just, if you're going, you're going to want to print this out. You're going to want to have it around. It's awesome.

44:49Brian Schulmeister:It's very nice. It's very nicely done. Yeah, very nicely done. He should have a Patreon to get some monies.

44:54Jason DeFillippo:I would toss him a buck or two. No doubt about that. Moving on to books really quickly, Jason. I did finish I Am Not a Robot, My Year Using AI to Do Almost Everything by Joanna Stern. It was a fun book to read. It dragged down a little bit just because of the vast amount of knowledge that you and I already have about this. It's a wonderful book for people that don't really understand AI and the ins and outs of it. So it delves into very simplistic explainers that go on a little bit too long for you or I. But the TLDR on this is what makes it enjoyable for you and I, Jason. This shit sucks.

45:33Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it does. It does. So, by the way, I listen to anti-AI podcasts and I listen to pro-AI podcasts every day. And the pro AI podcast this week are so they're so trying to juggle the opposing facts in their head and come up with bullshit to say, well, now we're in we're moving into a token efficiency stage where we must now become efficient with our token usage because we're getting charged for it. And now we need to figure out what we can do with it. I'm just like, you can't do shit, you dumb fucks. And just go back to the Instagram thing one more time. I'm sorry. But one guy wrote, he's like, I wrote six desktop apps for my company and I didn't write a single line of code.

46:18Brian Schulmeister:Well, when your company can't afford to subsidize your AI usage anymore, what fucking use do you have to the company? Because you can't fix it when something breaks. Go fuck yourself, you little fucking shit. What else did you read this week, Brian?

46:32Jason DeFillippo:Well, because I finished my nonfiction book, I was able to go back to fiction. and being lazy and having enjoyed the first book so much, I picked up Carl's Doomsday Scenario, Dungeon Crawler Carl, book two by Matt Dinneman. And I fully intended for that to take me about two to three weeks to read, or at least up until the World Cup. And I finished it in two nights. It was fun. It was as much fun as the first one. Oh, great.

46:58Brian Schulmeister:I loved it. Okay. I am 80 % through the first book, and I'm taking my time with it because I'm listening to the audio book. It is read by one guy whose name I don't have handy, but it is a full cast production. This guy is so good. And the sound effects, everything, it is so fucking hilarious. The AI that they do to give him all of the stats and everything on everybody, it is read so— I mean, I have found myself just cracking up walking down the street when I'm listening to it. It is so fucking good.

47:28Jason DeFillippo:It's a good thing that somebody—they found somebody to do the audiobooks before this kind of really blew up. because, you know, it's so popular right now, it would absolutely be Will fucking Wheaton reading him. Oh, Jesus.

47:41Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, no, no. This guy has talent. This guy has serious fucking talent. It is so good. By the way, I like Will Wheaton. I do, too. I just don't like him reading every goddamn audiobook known to me. Every sci-fi book that I go to, it's the same goddamn guy. Sorry, I like Will Wheaton. Sorry, Will. Yeah, it's nothing personal, Will, but you just work too much. Anyway, I read Wisdom Takes Work. Learn, Apply, Repeat by Ryan Holiday, which a lot of those kids on the Instagram should maybe go listen to because it is a fantastic book. It is the fourth book in the series of the Stoic Virtues from Ryan Holiday.

48:14Brian Schulmeister:I love this book. I've actually listened to it twice on my walks this week. It is, in my estimate, it is the best of the four books. Ego is the Enemy was the book before the series, and that was a phenomenal book. But this book is just like it hammers home how much it takes to actually learn things that are genuinely useful to humanity. Friction. Friction. Time. Also, the single best, probably 25-minute takedown of Elon Musk that you will ever read, period. He tears the shit out of Elon. And only 25 minutes?

48:52Jason DeFillippo:That's great because we've done about, oh, I don't know, 35 hours. Exactly.

48:57Brian Schulmeister:And it goes from where we were when we started this show. Elon was cool. Elon was awesome. He was a smart dude. And it just follows the path of what the fuck? What the fuck happened to you? But he comes at it with science. So it's really, it's such a good read. I highly recommend it. I highly recommend it. So to follow on with that, I've been using Open Audible to capture all of my audiobooks off of audible.com because I would like them in the future when I eventually get rid of my fucking Amazon account because fuck Amazon and fuck Jeff Bezos. So I download all this stuff. And the problem is I have to put it on another hard drive because it takes up almost a fucking terabyte.

49:38Brian Schulmeister:I have 900 gigabytes of audio books for the 20 some years, 25 years now that I've been buying books from Audible. And so I needed something to plug it into because I got this little shitty MacBook M4 Air with only two ports. Well, it's a great, the laptop is great. Great. Johnny Ives Ghost fucked my ports on it. It's only got two USB-C ports. So I needed a little thing. So I got the Belkin Connect four-port USB-C hub, USB-C hub, multi-port adapter dongle with four USB-C 3.2 Gen 2 ports, high-speed 10 GB data transfer for laptop, MacBook, iPad, PC, and more. 100 WPD,$32.24. Great little dongle, does exactly what I need it to do.

50:19Brian Schulmeister:You can't power a monitor through it, which sucks. But if you need to plug in a shit ton of hard drives, which I need to do because I use Backblaze to back up my computer, which I talked about a couple of weeks ago, Backblaze has been phenomenal. But I need to plug in more hard drives. And this is for 32 bucks. Phenomenal little hub that you should have in your backpack at all times. And we're back and we are joined again by our good friend Dave Bittner from the Cyber Wire. Hello, Dave. Welcome back.

50:44Jason DeFillippo:Hello, gentlemen. Good to be back. Excellent. I want to just lean into some Star Wars really quick because it's kind of what we do. After seeing Mando and Grogu, which I don't think I have talked to you since I've seen it. Enjoyed it. Enjoyed it. Thought, could you use a little bit of tighter editing? You could tell that it was kind of meant originally written to be a series, not a movie. Probably could have lost about 20, 30 minutes of footage. But overall, I thoroughly enjoyed it. my wife also enjoyed it enough to suggest to my son lucas well why don't we watch the mandalorian because you have not seen it yet and i almost fell out of my chair as my wife has never wanted to watch a star wars show she's always been up for movies but a show okay okay wow so we are going back and watching season one right now and i of course am sitting there with them and doing it And gosh, it was such an enjoyable show right off the gate.

51:44Jason DeFillippo:So different. Now we come to expect different a bit more. But back then, wow, I was like, yeah, this is Star Wars. How cool. And on another front, my kid has decided to start watching in his own time Star Wars Rebels, the animated show, which ties directly into the Mandoverse. And this is a lot where Dave Filoni's picked everything up from is the threads that came out of this show. So rewatching that as well. And it's a lot of fun.

52:11Brian Schulmeister:So I have not seen Rebels. Yes. It's hard for me to remember like Rebels Clone Wars, you know, like, well, which try watching.

52:21Jason DeFillippo:Try watching these with a nine year old son who then starts to ask arcane questions about everything and is shocked that you don't know. along with, of course, the standard nine-year-old. Is this character stronger than this character? Whose lightsaber is better, Dad? Is it this guy or this guy? What kind of kyber crystal? I don't fucking know, kid. Just watch the show.

52:43Brian Schulmeister:You've got to hook him up with a Wookiepedia account. Give him Wookiepedia.

52:48Jason DeFillippo:We're trying to do less screen time, Jason, not more screen time.

52:51Brian Schulmeister:Well, just while you're watching the show, you can pause and open up Wookiepedia and say, here, while I go take a pee and refresh my wine, you can check out who's got the bigger Kyber crystal.

53:00Jason DeFillippo:That half hour of Star Wars Rebels will become a four hour show if I let him start doing that.

53:06Brian Schulmeister:I'm reminded actually just this morning. I don't remember how it came up, but I was talking with my production team and I was remembering the time we were at Disney World. My family was there. This is probably about 10 years ago. We were there with my wife, our kids and my mom was with us. and this is when they had the Star Wars launch bay at the Disney Studios, which is since they've just recently, they've turned it back into an animation area. But they had the launch bay there, and as part of that, they had a movie theater where they showed kind of a highlights reel, making of a 20-minute movie about the original trilogy.

53:51Brian Schulmeister:And I remember we're sitting there watching this and I'm loving every minute of it, of course. My mom is sitting next to me and it comes to the scene from Empire where Darth Vader says, no, I am your father. And my mom turns to me and says, Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father? and i went yes mom so she bought all the action figures for me you know but i don't think she ever saw anything she saw a new hope with me probably at a birthday party right you know when because that's what we did we go to a movie for a birthday party but i don't think she ever saw

54:30Jason DeFillippo:empire or jedi look i i have purchased an awful lot of pikachu shit for my kid and i couldn't tell you a goddamn thing about about pokémon right yes yes i can go down i can go down the

54:42Brian Schulmeister:list of boy brands that i just got jealous when dave said he had a production team i'm like oh my god you can have an ai one jason thanks thanks if you ever want to get a show out again probably not

54:59Jason DeFillippo:but yeah uh and i did want to mention this i'm not sure jason and i have been talking about this And I don't know if we've ever talked about it with you, Dave, but it seems like you would be a fan. I've wrapped up a rewatch of Downton Abbey. That was something my wife wanted to do. So went back from the very beginning. On PBS. Yep. PBS has all of its streaming. And we watched all, not the movies, just the series.

55:22Brian Schulmeister:How did you get through that whole thing without ever telling us that? That's like some secret.

55:27Jason DeFillippo:I told you a couple weeks ago we were doing it, Jason.

55:30Brian Schulmeister:Well, I had a stroke. I don't fucking know shit anymore. I don't remember that at all. It's Jason's legitimate excuse for everything now. It really is. I got Dane bramaged. Sorry. You know, it just, you can't push back on it. Like, oh, yes, you did. Rewind the tape and you'll discover I mentioned that my wife and I were doing this. I probably had a very fine retort, too.

55:52Jason DeFillippo:Well, yeah, we talked about how the movie sucked, but the series itself was pretty good. And it was. It was a lot of fun to watch. And I can't help but think that I'm assuming you've seen this, Dave. And I'm assuming you enjoy. Oh, this is a show for you, Dave. Oh, my God. Now, they don't break into song or anything, but everything else.

56:12Brian Schulmeister:I'll tell you that I know nothing about Downton Abbey other than it exists. And I've seen probably little clips from it, but I don't know what it's about. I don't know anything.

56:26Jason DeFillippo:Oh, you will enjoy this. Get thee to PBS immediately, Dave.

56:31Brian Schulmeister:Now, why do you think it'll be up my alley? What elements of it do you think will particularly appeal to me?

56:37Jason DeFillippo:It's old timey. You do like that sort of stuff. I do. It's true. I do. Yes, I very much do. It's a lot of deadpan, dry humor. They do sing occasionally, but it's not musical. So you like that stuff as well. I just feel like you're going to really like it. Okay.

56:53Brian Schulmeister:Well, I will dig in. My wife has not seen it either, so we're actually looking for something new to pick up.

57:03Jason DeFillippo:I think it's a good one to watch together.

57:06Brian Schulmeister:Okay. Well, sorry, guys, but I just have some breaking news that I'm putting in the show notes right now. Anthony Head has just died at age 72. Oh. Very sad. Have you seen Ted Lasso or Buffy the Vampire Slayer? I've seen one of those. Start school 10. Click on the link and you will figure out exactly who it is. It's very sad news. Rupert from...

57:29Jason DeFillippo:Oh, Rupert. Okay. Yeah. The bad guy.

57:31Brian Schulmeister:Okay. Oh, that's too bad. Yeah, he's one of my favorite actors. Oh, that sucks. Huh. Sorry. Friend of the show, Fogarty, just hit me up with the link. Good timing there, Bob. Way to bring down the mood. That's too bad. He was a good bad guy. Oh, he was a great good guy in Buffy, too. Okay. Another show I've never seen. He was a phenomenal good guy in Buffy. He was the most talented actor on the show. Okay. Yeah. Even my friends who were actors on the show say that he was the most talented actor on the show. So, oh, it's a bummer. Okay. What else we got? Bring the mood back up. Well, so speaking of Downton Abbey and series to watch, Alana and I are just about to wrap up the Dairy Girls show.

58:11Brian Schulmeister:Have either of you seen this? I have. I have. It's very enjoyable. Yeah. Yeah. Jason, any idea? Never heard of it. I've seen Welcome to Dairy. Yeah. that was a good show. This is no Dairy Girls. It's a BBC series, which means there's like seven episodes over three years. But it's really funny and and just smart character driven comedy that's laugh out loud and and sometimes very moving. And it's just a really fun show. So I We had to turn the captions on because they have very thick accents and my wife in particular can't keep up.

58:58Jason DeFillippo:Having spent a lot of time in very authentic Irish bars, I've known quite a few people that grew up in Northern Ireland in the 1990s, which is when this show is set. They all told me, yeah, that's pretty much what it was like. Yeah. And they said it in that accent. So I had to consult a dictionary.

59:17Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Dave, I'm going to tell you right now, the universal translator is alcohol. So you guys need to drink before you watch the show and then you will understand all of it. I've been to Northern Ireland in the 90s and I can tell you that drinking is the absolute babble fish of planet Earth.

59:34Jason DeFillippo:A medium to strong buzz is the only thing that made me understand a goddamn thing in Scotland.

59:38Brian Schulmeister:That tracks. That tracks. We're actually halfway through a season of the British version of MasterChef. And there's a Scottish contestant. And every time he speaks, we all look at each other and we're like, I don't know what he just said. But yeah. But yeah, Dairy Girls, I think you'll dig it, Jason. It is a lot of fun. Very funny. I'll check it out. I love the characters in there. It's just I'm sad that there isn't more of it because I enjoy visiting this group of young ladies. They just make me laugh. I do recommend Welcome to Derry, the Stephen King It prequel on I think it's HBO Max. Very good show.

1:00:24Brian Schulmeister:Absolutely nothing to do with this, but very good. OK. I was traveling last weekend. I went to visit some family on the eastern shore of Maryland. and it's about a two-hour drive from here. And anyone who's familiar with the area will know that you take Route 50 over the Bay Bridge and that takes you pretty much straight into Ocean City. And I was going to a town near Ocean City called Snow Hill. And I'm driving on my way and I look over to the traffic going the other direction and I see that it's backed up. So I look over to try to see what's causing the backup here. Was there an accident or something?

1:01:06Brian Schulmeister:and running around on the highway is an emu. No shit. Yep. An actual emu. An actual emu. It was one of those things where I looked, I had to look away and look again. Had there been someone in the car with me, I would have said, you see the emu, right? I'm not hallucinating. There's actually an emu running around on the highway.

1:01:30Jason DeFillippo:Dave, was the city Ocean City? It was Ocean City, yeah. Did you sit in your car and sing, we've got trouble? We've got trouble right here in Ocean City? With a capital E?

1:01:42Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it turns out this emu had escaped from a farm. His name is Dexter. It took the highway patrol about four hours to wrangle him. How many murders did Dexter commit while he was on the loose? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I was thinking like in highway patrol trooper training, they probably don't spend a whole lot of time on emu wrangling for Maryland highway patrolmen. But that you know of. Well, that's true. But according to the reports, they were able to wrangle him using a dog leash and they got him back home to his farm where he's recovering from his adventure. and hopefully they'll sure up his pen so he can't get out again.

1:02:30Brian Schulmeister:They just use the same tactics that they use on meth heads. Just a dog leash on his stick. Just get him, get him. Could have been. I don't know. But yeah, that was weird.

1:02:43Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, just never. I didn't have that on my bingo card. So I'm glad that you saw the Mando and Grogu movie. Jason, have you seen it? No. Okay. So there's a mild spoiler here. Not really so much a plot spoiler. It's just like a moment of delight spoiler. I included a link to this Lego set. Brian, since you've seen the movie, you recognize what it is. Yes. My wife and I were at a mall that had a Lego store and we were in the Lego store and I saw this Lego set and I went, oh, I'm buying that. So I bought it for my son because if I buy it for my son, someone else puts it together. And so sure enough, he did.

1:03:30Brian Schulmeister:And it is adorable. So it's the it's the starship of the little the little fix it guys. I guess they're called Anzellians. Yeah. And it's a funny little sight gag in the movie, this little starship that they have. And Lego has done it justice with this little thing. So in our house, my son already had the, what's Mando's ship, the big ship that he flies around in?

1:03:57Jason DeFillippo:The, oh God, the ship. My son's going to kill me. The Razorcrest. Yes, Razorcrest. Yes.

1:04:04Brian Schulmeister:So we already have the big Razorcrest ship. So now we have the little Lenzel and ship parked right next to it. And it's pretty darn cute. Fantastic. Yeah.

1:04:18Brian Schulmeister:I came across, I was pointed out to, I can't remember how it came across, but AI generated jazz. There is a YouTube channel here.

1:04:28Jason DeFillippo:Wasn't human jazz bad enough?

1:04:29Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, seriously. Well, you know what's worse than AI generated jazz? ai smooth jazz that's that's that would be the which also is also a thing which also exists yes so i was kind of going in that direction a little bit which is that i think uh in general creative people people who have made their living created a living out of being a creative person and doing creative things kind of turn our noses up at AI generated art, especially something automated. And if you go to this YouTube channel, they have dozens of albums that they've put out that are AI generated jazz. But if I were to put one of these albums on as background music, like for a dinner party or an event or something like that, nobody would blink an eye it's i mean it's i i don't know enough about jazz to say it's good but i know enough to say it's not bad there's nothing that draws attention to it to say what what is going on with that you know like and i don't know how to feel about that well i you know

1:05:47Jason DeFillippo:i would say the same thing i i've i've i'm very into um electronic music and ambient electronic in particular. I've listened to gazillions of albums by amazing artists, Brian Eno, Aphex Twin, Moby, you name it. Angerine Dream. They've all done Ambient Electronica and that is what all these, like Suno, etc., they excelled at doing that sort of stuff at the beginning. And same thing, if you threw it on in the background and I just told somebody, oh, this is Brian Eno's latest music for taxis instead of music for airports or just make up some fucking name. Right. Nobody would be able to really say, no, it's not.

1:06:29Jason DeFillippo:You wouldn't fucking know. But still, at the end of the day, a human did one, and some software did the other one.

1:06:38Brian Schulmeister:Some software that stole from a human did the other one.

1:06:40Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, trained on other humans. So, you know. Yeah. I certainly wouldn't be able to tell the difference with jazz. I don't know enough about jazz. I know that there are no rules.

1:06:53Brian Schulmeister:I will hate both of them equally. I will just tell you that. It doesn't matter. I mean, I don't hate jazz. I can't say that it's something that I seek out, but I think it definitely has its place for mood setting and I can enjoy and appreciate a good jazz performance. But again, it's not something I seek out. I guess one of the things I'm wondering is, is there going to come a point where some AI generated pop song comes out? I listen to it not knowing that it's AI generated and it's an absolute banger and I can't get it out of my head. And for a week or so, it's my favorite song ever. Inevitable.

1:07:34Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, inevitable. Yeah. If Brian's wife does her job, it won't happen. So she needs to sit the shit out of these people. Right. So this never happens. So, Brian, to be fair, my wife's job is currently to do that.

1:07:48Jason DeFillippo:But as soon as there is more money in making deals with them, then that will be her job to do it that way. OK, OK.

1:07:55Brian Schulmeister:Well, let's also, you know, not rule out the possibility that your wife's entire job might be replaced by AI. So there's that as well.

1:08:03Jason DeFillippo:Well, same with us. Yes, yes. we've talked about multiple court cases that have tried to rely on lawyers doing ai and that has not worked out so well so far but uh yeah no i mean i there there was a just a few i think three months ago there was an ai generated band uh that put came out on spotify that started to creep up the list it was like and you know starting to get make it onto the playlist and all that sort of stuff and they were out and proud about it and there was some brouhaha and you know people listen to the albums and the albums were fine like there there was they they were of the genre that they were purported to be in they sounded like it nothing exceptional but nothing it wasn't horrible either that that's where it's at right now so right yeah that leads me into our our next story which is

1:08:51Brian Schulmeister:according to new data from illuminate and spotify roughly one-third of all streams in 2026 are going to songs that are at least 10 years old and nearly 17 going to tracks over 20 years old because all All of this AI music sucks. So, well, there's just and I'm sorry, not just AI music, any music in the past 10 years that you've ever heard.

1:09:11Jason DeFillippo:It's not just because of AI. There are people that have like legitimately studied this. And there's something to be said that music for the last 10 plus years or so has started to be crafted for for TikTok, for quick hits. Like there's no long intros anymore. You go straight into a chorus right away because you've got to hit people with the hit right away. You've got to get the 30-second listen to get paid. And people are writing music to do that now. They aren't taking chances. Nobody is ever going to fucking write a Bohemian Rhapsody anymore. Nobody is ever going to write a Cure song anymore except for the Cure because the three-minute fucking instrumental intros before you get into anything.

1:09:53Jason DeFillippo:Like, that music is not crafted for that anymore. And that's kind of why.

1:09:58Brian Schulmeister:so yeah yeah no more hotel californias well i'm not saying for that one i'm fine for that one you know just it's never gonna that's sort of a concept album i guess yeah i mean that stuff

1:10:10Jason DeFillippo:still exists but you have to go out and find it and and usually it's legacy bands older bands because they've made the money they made their money in the cd days and uh they can just release what they want if you're if you're out there and you're a starving artist you're playing the game to get played. You have to. Right.

1:10:29Brian Schulmeister:Well, you know, here's the irony. It's like, you know, you think about the Pink Floyds and all that stuff back in the day. You know, those were stoner bands. And now pot is so legal that everybody is stoned all the time. You'd think this would be making a resurgence. So maybe that's where these plays are coming from. It's the pot renaissance that's bringing back all these old bands.

1:10:46Jason DeFillippo:I do want to point out the other argument that was being made for quite a long time and is being made by the CEOs of the streamers and being made by a bunch of other people as well. It's like, oh, okay, well, you know what? We're not buying your records anymore. Your records were too goddamn expensive anyways. It was corporate greed. You're getting your money from Spotify. And if you don't like it, tour. That's where the money is. No, not anymore. Because now touring has gone prohibitively expensive for 99 % of artists. The people that can afford to tour now are the multimillionaires. It's the Taylor Swifts, the Olivia Rodrigo.

1:11:20Jason DeFillippo:You have to be high level musician now to be able to afford to tour. Middle class musicians are completely squeezed out. Kids just getting started are OK. They can tour in a broken down van eating grilled cheese out of vending machines. That's the only fucking way they can do it. And the only way they're hoping to get what? They're hoping to get people to listen to their music that doesn't pay them anything. And they're never going to get big enough to be able to be able to make money touring. There's no money to be made in music anymore unless you're one of the top percent of moneymakers anyways.

1:11:51Brian Schulmeister:So who's going to write these new songs for us? I was thinking about all of the stadium bands are legacy bands. Yeah, there are the only ones who can fill a stadium. No one else can.

1:12:05Jason DeFillippo:No, the closest you get, I can think of, is a band like Turnstile. And even they've been around for 10 years plus. What about the Bad Bunny? Again, it's a very small number of artists that managed to break through it. Brad Bunny's been around for a long time, too. That's true. He's not brand new.

1:12:23Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, no overnight successes anymore. Yeah, that's true. All right, guys. Well, on that fine note. Yeah, our music sucks. We're screwed. No, no. Our music is great. Yes. Your music sucks. Your music sucks. That's right. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go listen to the safety dance. I'm going to go listen to the safety dance. Generated jazz. Yeah. All right, guys. Talk to you next time. See you soon. And to thank everybody who has helped support this show, we would like to thank our new Patreon subscribers, Kelly, Michael, Chris, and Dave. Thank you all so much for your continued support, for your new support of the show.

1:13:02Brian Schulmeister:For the continued support of the show, I would like to thank Jonathan, Juha, Fun Day, Paudette Show, Brett, Old Butt Kicking, OBK, my man over on Clash Royale. Thanks for coming back. We missed you, buddy. John, ahoy, matey. Jari Pekka, Jason, and Matthew. Thank you all for your continued support. And thank you to the new Patreon subscribers. And what else we got, Brian? We got some big rollers over at PayPal this week.

1:13:27Jason DeFillippo:We got Bjorn who gave us$20. Sloan,$25. Christopher, also$25. Darla, who swept in with$60. And I was like, God damn. But then Jason. Jason went, hold my fucking beer and sent us$100.

1:13:40Brian Schulmeister:Thanks, man. Thank you. Thank you all so much. And over at the tip jar, we've got Joshua, Sarah, and Matthew. Sadly, nobody's bought any merch this week, but we do have new shirts. That's not true. What? That is not true. What are you talking about? Hold on a second. Oh, what are you talking about?

1:13:54Jason DeFillippo:Oh, oh. Katie Wood. Katie Wood? All right, Katie. Katie Wood bought my Grump Maxing shirt from Vancouver, Washington.

1:14:04Brian Schulmeister:All right, Katie. How did I miss Katie? Oh, my God. Well, I'm glad Brian's on the merch beat because I missed that one. So thank you very much, Katie. But we do have the new Destroy the Broligarchy shirt out now and more stuff coming. So check that out. And if you would like to support the show, and we really wish you would support the show, because that's the only way we keep doing this shit at eight in a fucking morning on a Friday, go to patreon.com slash GOG and sign up there. You can get the show ad free and in high definition. And you can go to YouTube now and sign up for a membership. You can go to PayPal.

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