752: Grandma Got Run Over By a Tesla

8:58Jason DeFillippo:I often tenderize my cucumbers for my salad.

9:03Brian Schulmeister:I play them and then I tenderize them. Yes. It comes with being 50. It just takes time. So, yeah, Legion built its business on rented AI and it's discovering that the downside of building your company on somebody else's API sucks. Welcome to the party, pal. Welcome to the party. Yeah.

9:22Jason DeFillippo:Well, we talked about dynamic pricing and how the grocery stores all around the country in the U.S. anyways, because, you know, we have laws and apparently so does California, have been putting in the digital display digital price checks so they can basically roll in dynamic pricing and raise the price of your bananas at the push of a button. Well, a new lawsuit has been filed on Monday in Sacramento, California, proposed as a class action, which is accusing British Petroleum, 7-Eleven, Walmart, Albertsons, and other gas station chains operating in California, along with a software platform of using AI to coordinate high prices and wring more money from the pockets of consumers, according to Reuters, who reviewed the suit.

10:00Jason DeFillippo:Reuters says the software in question is called Calibrate with a K. With a K. Got it. A company whose website says it has been removing the guesswork and adding certainty to organizations' biggest decisions for decades, and that it offers market-leading AI analytics and modeling, which has been around for decades.

10:17Brian Schulmeister:Ooh, decades.

10:19Jason DeFillippo:In California, using AI to collaboratively set prices could be the basis for a valid lawsuit because there's been a 2025 amendment to California's primary antitrust law, which makes algorithmic price-fixing illegal. Don't! Ticketmaster? specifically no one may use or distribute a common pricing algorithm as part of a contract combination in the form of a trust or a conspiracy to restrain trade or commerce and what exactly is a pricing algorithm california law defies it as any methodology including a computer software or other technology used by two or more persons that uses competitor data to recommend a line stabilize set or otherwise influence a price or commercial term now illegal in california Cass station's probably doing it.

11:03Jason DeFillippo:Not exactly the same as dynamic pricing, but in my view, this becomes a very gray area because what do you base your dynamic prices on? You don't just base it on demand. You also base it on what competitors are pricing their items at, right?

11:18Brian Schulmeister:Yes.

11:19Jason DeFillippo:So technically illegal in California. So somebody should walk down to the Ralphs and say, you might not want to spend the money on those dynamic pricing, the little LED price units for the bananas yet.

11:30Brian Schulmeister:We'll see. We'll see. This actually made it into the headline news here in L.A. because it's a big deal. And in the old days, you know what they used to do, Brian? They used to drive around town with a notebook and look at their competitors' signs and then take that back and figure out what their pricing should be. This was a common thing. I don't know if you've ever worked at a gas station. I have. And that's what they did. That's how they did it. And I'm okay with that because there's a bit of effort involved. And there's no collusion. There's no collusion. Everybody had their own guy driving around with a notebook.

12:03Jason DeFillippo:I would recommend that Calibrate rename themselves to collusion with a K. Yeah, there you go. There you go.

12:12Brian Schulmeister:And I got a quick story for you, Brian. We always talk about how the United States is a third world country, and Los Angeles is very much right up there, especially with our decaying infrastructure. I was coming back from Trader Joe's. And because I go to Trader Joe's now to buy my garlic because the dynamic pricing at my Ralph's, it's charging me 75 cents a bulb for garlic now where I can get it for 49 cents at Trader Joe's. That 25 cents is magical right now. So I need it. There was a Mercedes in front of me pulling up. The light turned green and we're all going. And there's a dip in the road, right?

12:48Brian Schulmeister:He's a boom, boom, right at where the light is. the car in front of me does the boop boop. Out of the bottom of the Mercedes is a giant rat fell out into the middle of Ventura Boulevard. And everybody was just like, holy shit, we're swerving, going crazy, like trying to avoid the rat. And that's LA in a nutshell. It's just a rat infested hellhole.

13:16Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, I never really saw rats when I was in LA, but things are getting weird.

13:21Brian Schulmeister:Well, we've had them. I mean, in the Valley, they're just everywhere. I mean, we have signs for people, you know, don't poison the ground and the trees because they live in the trees. But they also live in the cars. So my car, my roommate's car, the neighbor's cars. You know what we do to get rid of the rats in California? Buy cats? No. We zip tie bars of Irish spring to the inside of our engine blocks. That's how you get rid of rats inside of a car. because just like women, rats hate Irish Spring. That's two things. Irish Spring is good for deterring women, deer, and rats. So there you go. It is a birth control soap.

14:01Brian Schulmeister:All right. It has so many uses. I have to admit, I don't think I've ever owned a bar of Irish Spring in my life. I did. I did. My girlfriend at the time said, get rid of that shit, you stink. Okay. Hat tip to Shauna for saving me from myself on that one. Thank you, girl. Well, a new problem is emerging inside enterprises racing to adopt AI, Brian. The cost of the tokens powering those systems. What, people aren't token maxing anymore? Oh, no, they're not token maxing, baby. No. They're token frugal. Yes, they are. You know, because the token algorithmic pricing has taken effect. So, according to leaked internal audio from consulting giant Accenture, companies are seeing AI spending rise rapidly, And it's often non-technical employees, not engineers driving the biggest costs.

14:53Brian Schulmeister:Talk about a plot twist, Brian. So one surprisingly expensive use case is converting PDFs into presentation slides or markdown files.

15:02Jason DeFillippo:But still cheaper than the Adobe subscription. You'd need to do it with Adobe Acrobat directly. True.

15:09Brian Schulmeister:Still cheaper. Fuck you, Adobe. me. Accenture says organizations are moving beyond simple chatbots into AI-powered workflows, coding assistance, and enterprise-wide deployments of tools like Microsoft Copilot, Claude Code, and OpenAI Codex. As adoption scales, token consumption is becoming a significant and unpredictable operating expense, raising questions from executives about whether the business value justifies the cost. The issue is spreading across the industry. Uber recently capped employees' AI usage after reportedly exhausting its AI budget in just four months. In response, Accenture is developing a new product, Brian, called Token IQ to help clients track, manage, and optimize AI spending.

15:53Jason DeFillippo:How many tokens do you need for Token IQ?

15:56Brian Schulmeister:Exactly. If I was an employer and I had employees that their job was to take a PDF and turn it into a presentation, I'd be like, I'm already paying you to do that. So why don't you just do that? because that's your job. You do that. Yeah. I don't, what's the, but it's funny that it's the non-technical employees because they're also probably dicking around, you know, getting, you know, help with their gout and talking about their relationship issues

16:24Jason DeFillippo:and trying to find a girlfriend. And getting it to write all their emails because they no longer have the brain capacity to do it themselves and all that stuff. That's what everybody I know that is heavily invested in AI, they're not coders. They're not engineers. They're middle management. And they've stopped thinking at work.

16:45Brian Schulmeister:One could say, though, that middle management has never really had much of a thought. So I know, I know. I'm sorry. I'm treading and treading on your domain now since you're middle management. Well, not even. So you're a podcast like me.

16:59Jason DeFillippo:I was too smart for it, unfortunately. That was the problem. There you go.

17:02Brian Schulmeister:See, there you have it. There you have it. So stop using AI or otherwise you might fall down the management hole. So your friends have to use this quite a bit.

17:14Jason DeFillippo:You know, I just know an awful lot of people that just can't seem to write an email anymore by themselves. They have to take the email that they got, plop it into some gen AI and get the crafted email. And now they're getting too lazy to even tweak it. They just send what they get.

17:30Brian Schulmeister:That's the one thing that I've just never understood is using AI for email. Email is like the one thing that I'm like, I'm going to write every single word of that because this is communication with another human being that has a desired outcome. You know, it's like there's something that needs to be done because of this email. Whatever it is, I'm the only one that knows it. The AI doesn't know it. It's like, you know, okay, Grammarly. I use Grammarly because I failed English in the fourth grade. Fine. You talk pretty one day. Exactly. Yeah. Me write like orc. But that's fine. Grammarly does that.

18:04Brian Schulmeister:but it doesn't change the words. It puts in the punctuation, but I can't, I just don't get it. Have you ever written an email with AI, Brian?

18:11Jason DeFillippo:Absolutely not. I tried it once to see if it would be any better or easier. It was a particularly sensitive email in which I was,

18:19Brian Schulmeister:it was just a tough one to write, right?

18:21Jason DeFillippo:So like, I was like, well, I, how do I get, I want to get the tone just right for this email because this is kind of uncomfortable. And it was a miserable fail. Like I hated it. I was just like, nope, screw this. I'm just going to agonize this over this for an hour. And then I crafted something that made sense and it went well. So.

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19:59Brian Schulmeister:One more time, that's www.joindeliteme.com slash GOG, code GOG. I have a new favorite article this week, Brian. And hat tip to Curbs on Discord for being the first one to send this in. A Microsoft researcher has used an unlikely source, GOATS, in the 1999 strategy game Age of Empires II to make a serious point about large language models and claims of AI sentience. In a paper titled, If LLMs Have Human-Like Attributes, Then So Does Age of Empires II, researcher Adrian DeWinter built simple logic gates using the game's GOAT characters, then combined them into a basic AI system known as a perceptron.

20:40Brian Schulmeister:I like that. His argument is that any sufficiently powerful system or substrate can theoretically implement the same kinds of computations that power modern AI. So this guy's sharp. The real takeaway isn't that goat-based AI is practical because goat-based AI is just fucking awesome to say. It's that people often project human qualities onto AI based on how it's presented. If ChatGPT produced identical responses through a browser, a smart speaker, or a herd of virtual goats running around a video game, the output would be the same. But our perception of its intelligence would change dramatically.

21:21Brian Schulmeister:De Winter argues this demonstrates how much AI anthropomorphism is driven by human expectations rather than objective evidence. And this comes down to language. It's the fact that what we're seeing with the goats is exactly the same as it would be if it was translated to language. But the fact that we as humans, you know, we see sentience when we hear language coming back at us instead of bad. It's like it's just that perception, even though the output is technically mathematically exactly the same. Because think about AI. LLMs, it's just math and it's just numbers. That's all it is. So I just I love this.

21:58Brian Schulmeister:I love this. They got goat seed. Goat based. They got goat seed.

22:05Jason DeFillippo:well back in march it was widely reported that oracle had sent anywhere between 10 000 and 30 000 employees an email notifying them that it was the last day with the company we now have a more concrete number of people have lost their jobs in its annual regulatory filing oracle said that it employs approximately 141 000 people worldwide as of may 31st that's down 21 000 employees from the 162 000 employed by the company in the same period last year and it's filing the company said it has an existing restructuring plan in place that it made and will continue to make adjustments to its workforce.

22:38Jason DeFillippo:It admitted that the adoption and deployment of AI technologies across its operations have resulted and may continue to result in reductions to its numbers. As Bloomberg has recently reported, Oracle cut thousands of jobs in order to have more readily available cash it can use for its AI data center buildouts. Let me repeat that. Oracle cut thousands of jobs in order to have more readily available cash. Oracle cut thousands of jobs in order to have more readily available cash. The company has spent$1.8 billion in these restructuring costs, which include severance payments for laid off employees.

23:14Jason DeFillippo:Oracle cut thousands of jobs in order to have more readily available cash that it spends on its restructuring costs, not for the fucking data centers.

23:25Brian Schulmeister:You follow people?

23:27Jason DeFillippo:Don't believe this bullshit.

23:30Brian Schulmeister:Don't believe the hype.

23:35Brian Schulmeister:Well, I mean, technically, AI did kill their jobs. No, I'm not arguing that. It's just not the way that they are presenting it to the public.

23:43Jason DeFillippo:My point is that they are saying that this is to save money to build data centers, but they are not saving any money, maybe in the long run. But right now it is costing them an awful lot of money to get rid of those employees.

23:57Brian Schulmeister:Yes. Short term. It's short term for long term.

24:00Jason DeFillippo:But if there is a long term, because who knows if Oracle is going to survive this? Until then, they'll just pay Elon for his methane and running the meth labs of AI data centers. Whatever the fuck he's using to power those ketamine burning in the factories.

24:16Brian Schulmeister:I don't fucking know. Ketamine studded unicorns. That's what we're doing today.

24:20Jason DeFillippo:Well, Norway is imposing a strict ban on the use of generative AI tools by elementary school kids. Thank God, because what the fuck would they be doing using generative AI? Prime Minister Jonas Gars Thorre suggested at a press conference that AI lets children skip crucial steps in their education and that schools should focus on teaching them how to read, write, and do mathematics. The ban impacts students from first through seventh grade, age six to 13. However, the policy also extends to teens in a reduced fashion. Kids aged 14 to 16 can use generative AI, but only with a teacher's supervision.

24:53Jason DeFillippo:Teens 17 and above are encouraged to use AI appropriately on their own. This isn't the first move Norway has made to remove tech from classrooms. They banned smartphones from schools back in 2024, which has proven to be a success. It led to a reduction in bullying, better grades, and a significant decrease in the number of visits to psychologists for mental health issues. Notably, because they also banned guns, nobody's schools got shot up. These results were especially potent with girls. Norway is also planning a social media ban for all children under 16, which is similar to how Australia handles things.

25:24Jason DeFillippo:A bill will be introduced to Parliament by the end of the year. Sounds solid. Sounds like a good plan. Maybe we should do something like that. Good luck. Good luck.

25:35Brian Schulmeister:The FCC is considering new rules that would require... He talked pretty, like you said. that would require wireless carriers to verify and retain personal information from every new and renewing customer, including a name, physical address, government-issued ID number, and alternate phone number. The agency says the proposal would make it harder for robocallers and scammers to obtain service anonymously. But privacy advocates, domestic violence organizations, and digital rights groups argue the policy could effectively eliminate anonymous prepaid burner phones that are often critical for abuse survivors, journalists, whistleblowers, and others who need to protect their identities.

26:12Brian Schulmeister:I would also say the homeless, because the homeless actually have cell phones too, believe it or not. Let me ask you a question, Jason. Hit me, Brian, hit me.

26:21Jason DeFillippo:These shady organizations that run these robocallers and all these, the robocaller rooms and all that, they're not going and getting burner phones from Verizon.

26:33Brian Schulmeister:No, they're not. No, they're not. So we're talking about they're getting them in Myanmar and they're getting them in China and they're getting them in Russia. They're not getting them, Brian, in Poughkeepsie. Yeah, I would say.

26:46Jason DeFillippo:So so my argument here would be this is kind of bullshit.

26:50Brian Schulmeister:We have seen a couple of robocolor farms, but that does not mean that every person on the fucking planet, or at least in this country, you know, we do think that we are the planet sometimes. I know. We are the world. Yeah, we are the world.

27:04Jason DeFillippo:Screw everybody else.

27:07Brian Schulmeister:Look, we're going to trade you some ranch dressing for some SIM cards. Okay, let's go. Let's go.

27:13Jason DeFillippo:Europe, I'm investing. I'm investing in companies that make ranch right now because Europe is going to go crazy.

27:18Brian Schulmeister:Have you not ever made your own ranch dressing? It's really not that hard. It's really not that hard.

27:23Jason DeFillippo:It's very simple. And again, all you World Cup people visiting that are here. I know the F... Was it the F... Not the FCC. The... Yeah, FC...

27:33Brian Schulmeister:The FAA.

27:34Jason DeFillippo:The FAA has issued a warning about how you have to check your ranch. You can just buy the packets. You can just buy the packets, the dry packets. You'll be fine. You don't need to bring the big tubs of ranch with you.

27:47Brian Schulmeister:That's right. Reconstitute it when you get back home. Yes. You can be a ranch mule.

27:53Jason DeFillippo:Shove them down your pants.

27:56Brian Schulmeister:But anyway, back to the burner phone issue here. privacy yeah everybody's saying that this is a bad thing there's a link in the article if you want to go actually make a comment on it because initial public comments go to june 25th and reply comments due by july 27th i went and looked at it there are like 145 000 comments and in my random sampling this is not like the last time the fcc opened it up and it was just a bunch of dead people saying this is a great idea we should do it literally every single one says fuck you fcc See, this is a terrible idea. Go eat a bag of dicks.

28:31Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. And it's not going to solve the problem that you're claiming it's going to solve. It's just not.

28:36Brian Schulmeister:No. This is just another grab to get personal information. So, like, Trump's goons can fucking come in the hallway, you know, Pepe and Pedro. So, fuck them.

28:45Jason DeFillippo:Fuck them all. All right. Well, Meta has decided to suspend the Model Capability Initiative, which is the employee tracking program that they were using to basically train the AI to take over. over their jobs and all that sort of stuff. They did it not because of the workers' understandable displeasure around being almost perpetually monitored or for potentially breaking privacy laws. They did it because it caused an internal data leak. Business Insider reported that sensitive data collected through the program, including employees' private conversations, performance data, and transcriptions, was made inadvertently available to the entire Meta staff.

29:22Jason DeFillippo:Wow. So now we know Bob and Sue from accounting are boning. We have carefully designed this program with privacy safeguards. Obviously, you did not. Obviously, you did not. And while we have no indication at this time that any data was improperly accessed by meta employees. Yeah, you fucking do. We're pausing it while we investigate.

29:44Brian Schulmeister:The fact that we know that it happened means that somebody accessed it. Come the fuck on.

29:50Jason DeFillippo:I don't know how we ended up in the whole 1984 doublespeak world, but we really have. Like, I blame Trump because Trump is the person that just started coming up and saying black is white, white is black, and nobody fucking said shit about it. Nobody fucking challenged him. They just let it go. So now every company's PR agencies basically just stand up and fucking lie to our faces. To your face. Bald-faced lies. And nobody, everybody just kind of goes, well, I don't know, okay, whatever. Sounds legit. despite this official line in previous statements that employees collected data would be tightly controlled again no it fucking wasn't it appears meta wasn't quite on top of security as a claim this marks the latest in a series of ai related cyber security incidents for the company met meta reps issued a similar response in march after an agentic ai took unprompted action that also dominoed into a security breach and earlier this month the company had to react after hackers exploited its AI customer service chatbot to hijack Instagram accounts.

30:53Jason DeFillippo:No, it didn't.

30:55Brian Schulmeister:This just in. This just in. Meta is now suing the U.S. government because it does not have access to Fable 5 because they needed that for their security system. I mean, this is why I drink. This is why I wish I still could.

31:09Jason DeFillippo:So, fuck. This is why I drink for you. Thank you.

31:13Brian Schulmeister:Thank you. Please.

31:17Brian Schulmeister:Somebody sent me a meme today. It's pretty funny. It's like, when I drink alcohol, everyone says I'm an alcoholic. But when I drink Fanta, no one says I'm fantastic. Anyway, more meta news. Meta is rolling out a new line of smart glasses starting at$299, continuing their push to make AI-powered eyewear the next major computing platform.

31:37Jason DeFillippo:Well, I can't wait until all the recorded video and audio from those glasses gets leaked.

31:42Brian Schulmeister:Well, it did actually, Brian, if you remember about a month ago, All the people in Africa that were seeing everybody boning and pooping and all that stuff, they all got fired. So now we have a new company to figure out where to go get all of our smart glass video from.

31:55Jason DeFillippo:But it does exist.

31:57Brian Schulmeister:It is out there. The glass is built with Essilor Luxottica, include cameras, speakers, and access to meta AI, allowing users to take photos, record videos, translate languages, and interact with the world around them through voice commands. Okay, great. But while new hardware is getting the attention, the bigger story, Brian, is privacy. Because Meta's smart glasses have already been at the center of debates over facial recognition, user data collection, and the potential for covert recording.

32:25Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, we talked about it just, wasn't it just last week that they actually shipped the code with the facial recognition software in it, just not activated. They just didn't turn it on. Yeah.

32:36Brian Schulmeister:It was set to zero, Brian.

32:37Jason DeFillippo:Facial recognition set to zero. Yeah.

32:40Brian Schulmeister:Yes. Critics have also pointed out the reports that some privacy safeguards, such as recording indicator lights, can be tampered with or removed. Piece of black tape. The electrical tape problem, Brian. The electrical tape problem. You know what electrical tape's good for? Nipples. At the rave. That's what electrical tape is good for.

32:56Jason DeFillippo:That's what God intended it for.

32:58Brian Schulmeister:It seriously is. I miss the clubs. That's why it comes in multiple colors now. Not just black. Oh, really? Man, that would have been great back in the day.

33:06Jason DeFillippo:I know. We were so deprived.

33:09Brian Schulmeister:when asked about the issue meta cto andrew bosworth suggested that society society will simply adapt over time comparing smart glasses to the early backlash against camera phones no no no listen to me andrew bosworth it has been years since we had the glass holes

33:29Jason DeFillippo:we have not adapted we still hate these fucking things we have we will not adapt The way we will adapt is by not buying your shitty product. That's how we're going to adapt. Never forget the glass holes, Brian.

33:42Brian Schulmeister:Never forget the glass holes. I love this. He argued that, quote, unquote, social learning and evolving public norms will determine what people find acceptable. I think we're determining that right now. And people are saying, fuck you and your fucking glasses.

33:58Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

33:59Brian Schulmeister:Critics counter that this approach effectively shifts responsibility from meta to the public, asking bystanders to adjust to increasingly powerful wearable surveillance devices. This is Elon's playbook. Let's shift responsibility for our self-driving car betas to the public. This is what the tech bros do now. As competitors like Google and Snap enter the market, well, Snap, just put a fucking cork in Snap. They're done after those new glasses shipped. Jesus Christ. And Apple continues its own wearable ambitions. the future of smart glasses may depend less on technology and more on whether consumers and regulators accept meta's view that privacy concerns can be worked out after the products are already on people's faces you know that's not really how it works i i have a fix brian and the fix is simple legalize punching somebody in the face who's wearing them that's it seems fair to me i think i think that that is i think that that is the regulation we've all been looking for

34:52Jason DeFillippo:uh we've talked about these sorts of cases uh more than a few times over the last few weeks i I have a feeling this is going to become a regular feature on our show because there's going to be one or two new ones of these every single week. And it appears everybody's just settling. Following a similar lawsuit earlier this year, Google has settled with a miner known as RKC, who claimed that social media platforms harmed them, Reuters reports. Terms of the settlement were confidential. The same plaintiff also sued Metasnap and TikTok with those trials set to proceed next month. I suspect checks are being written right now.

35:23Jason DeFillippo:YouTube had thousands of similar lawsuits pending, so this second case represents a test run for the many to follow. The first trial was brought by a 20-year-old woman known as KGM, we talked about it on the show, who also claimed harm due to the addictive nature of social media. That person won their trial and received$6 million in damages, with$3 million coming from Meta and YouTube taking on the other$3 million. YouTube vowed to launch an appeal for that case, saying it responsibly built a streaming platform, not a social media site. You got comment sections?

35:52Brian Schulmeister:You got a comment section.

35:53Jason DeFillippo:Can you register an account? Yep. Can you have a name and profile? Yep. Sounds like a social media site to me. Yep. More than 3 ,300 lawsuits involving social media addiction are pending in California state courts alone. And another 2 ,600 were brought by people, school districts, municipalities, and states in California federal court. that is just one state, but it's easy to see the size of the problem for YouTube and other platforms if each plaintiff receives a multi-million dollar award. So at some point, they're going to have to stop writing the settlement checks because it's going to get too damn expensive.

36:30Jason DeFillippo:And then the real fun will begin. We'll actually get a court case on this. It's not a precedent.

36:35Brian Schulmeister:Brian, I know I have emails and texts somewhere where your son has been harmed irreparably from social media addiction. And I think that if I produce those emails, I should get a 50 percent cut of whatever millions of dollars that we can we can sue out of Google and meta. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. See what I'm saying? Well, here's the problem, Jason.

36:56Jason DeFillippo:I did some responsible parenting.

36:58Brian Schulmeister:And as soon as I saw what the fuck was going on on YouTube, I shut that fucking iPad from his hands and banned YouTube. Brian, you're supposed to go along to get along. Come on. We need the money. We need the money. Advertising is down.

37:11Jason DeFillippo:I didn't realize there would be millions of dollars of payouts if I just harmed my child. Well, it's true. True.

37:19Brian Schulmeister:If every boomer who created a Gen X kid was millions of dollars. You take the good, you take the bad.

37:26Jason DeFillippo:You take them both. And there you have the settlement. A settlement.

37:34Jason DeFillippo:Hat tip to Barrett who sent this one in. Tesla kills another, he said. a Tesla crashed into a Texas home, killing a 76-year-old grandmother. A 76-year-old grandmother died after a Tesla driver reportedly using the car's autopilot feature crashed into a Katy, Texas home Friday evening, according to authorities. Photos released by investigators show a gaping hole in the front of the Houston area home with a vehicle still inside the house and debris scattered across the lawn. A neighbor's security camera footage obtained by CNN appears to show the vehicle traveling at a high speed on a neighborhood street before it drives out of frame.

38:05Jason DeFillippo:A loud noise is heard seconds later. The Tesla driver told responding deputies the vehicle was in autopilot mode, according to Harris County Constable Precinct 5. He was taken to a local hospital for treatment, showed no signs of intoxication, and was cooperating with investigators. So the only thing that he did was mistakenly believe that there is full self-driving in a Tesla.

38:26Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, so he's just dumb. But, you know, and why is he going so fast? Brakes didn't work. There's a lot to unpack with this one. so i'm sure this i'm sure that this is going to have a follow-up story but this did get me thinking brian i think it's time for us to to maybe maybe we should go to suno or whatever the audio or whatever those fucking music uh ai treatments are and uh and re re swizzle grandma got run over by a reindeer by elmo and patsy which is a classic i got run over by a reindeer here and tesla yeah just santa claus driving his tesla or he's santa claus playing his new stream deck while it's driving in self-auto and just runs over grandma that's it that's a great song

39:10Jason DeFillippo:i haven't heard that though dr de manno man dr de manno well i you know well the kids that are

39:15Brian Schulmeister:calling me bro have probably never heard it so if they are if one or two of you are listening to the

39:20Jason DeFillippo:show go check it out links in the show notes all right well in further uh self-driving news rivian has been sued on allegations that have made misleading statements about the self-driving capabilities of its R1T truck and R1S SUV. According to the class action complaint bought by Rivian customers, the first generation models of these vehicles are not capable of the offering of offering the self-driving potential that the company had promised. They also argue that Rivian represented those early models would be capable of level three autonomous driving, meaning the vehicle would be able to steer, accelerate, and brake without driver action.

39:51Jason DeFillippo:But in reality, Rivian manufactures its Gen 1 vehicles without the hardware camera, sensors and compute to enable hands-free driving and or level three autonomous operations. No software update, no matter how sophisticated, will enable its Gen 1 vehicles to perform as advertised. Sound familiar?

40:08Brian Schulmeister:It should, because this is exactly what Elon got sued for with Tesla. And where are these mini giga factories, Brian, that are supposed to be retrofitting?

40:18Jason DeFillippo:Not a single one has been built yet, Jason. Imagine that. Okay. You know what you can do, though?

40:22Brian Schulmeister:you can drive your Tesla up and use Grok for free in the parking lot, probably.

40:27Jason DeFillippo:Maybe. Yeah, perhaps. And Waymo is recalling over 3 ,800 of its self-driving taxis due to a software issue that could cause them to enter closed freeway construction zones at speed, according to the NHTSA bulletin seen by Reuters. The company is reportedly working on a fix and has restricted freeway driving until further notice. Waymo reported that at least 13 of its robo-taxis drove onto highway sections that were closed for construction. Wait, 13?

40:55Brian Schulmeister:Why did they wait so long to do this recall? 13 is a lot. Like one car drives into a puddle and gets stuck, and they recall 4 ,000 cars. 13 of the taxis drive into... That took them a while.

41:08Jason DeFillippo:What the hell? You know what they say? They've identified an area of improvement regarding performance around freeway construction zones, Jason.

41:15Brian Schulmeister:That is their statement. AI wrote that fucking email. I'm telling you right now.

41:20Jason DeFillippo:We voluntarily restricted freeway operations last month while making improvements, proactively notified state and federal regulators, and decided to file a voluntary software recall with NHTSA. You know why you did those voluntary things? Because if you didn't and somebody's Waymo did this and they died, you'd be sued into oblivion.

41:41Brian Schulmeister:But they can afford it, so I think that they, yeah.

41:46Jason DeFillippo:this is the second recall for the alphabet owned robotaxi company in a bit more than a month we talked about these other ones uh they recalled 3 ,791 robotaxis after a vehicle drove onto a flood road in san antonio remember they couldn't the the weather didn't the app didn't update in time didn't update in time yeah it didn't get the wet signal prior to that the fleet was recalled for a particularly dangerous situation where some of its robotaxis were seen failing to stop for school buses that had their stop signs and flashing lights deployed. Oops, forgot to code that in, didn't we? Didn't vibe code school buses.

42:22Jason DeFillippo:Despite these issues, Waymo's autonomous fleet has largely performed well, according to the company.

42:28Brian Schulmeister:Yeah.

42:29Jason DeFillippo:On its own safety impact page, Waymo says its vehicles have been involved in 92 % fewer serious injury or worse crashes compared to human drivers and 92 % fewer pedestrian crashes. Noticeably, that is on Waymo's own page with their own safety impact study. Also, I noticed that Marlboro has said that cigarettes are great for you. They're delicious.

42:52Brian Schulmeister:Eight out of 10 doctors agree. Yes. Yeah. The NHTSA just has to be, oh, they've probably been underfunded and they had everybody fired. So there's probably one dude there right now.

43:07Jason DeFillippo:But I'm sure Elon says that if we could, this had zero impact gutting these agencies. Zero impact.

43:13Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, zero impact. Zero. Zero impact. These people were going to die anyways. Long enough timeline. Right, Elon. Speaking of, America's$42 billion broadband expansion program was supposed to bring future-proof fiber internet to millions of underserved homes. Instead, critics say it's becoming a massive subsidy pipeline for Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. The Bede program originally prioritized fiber networks because they offer higher speeds, more capacity and decades of useful life. We covered this in during the Biden administration when this was passed and we're like, this is good stuff. But after the fuck nut Trump administration rewrote the rules, states were pushed toward a so-called technology neutral approach that opens the door for satellite providers like Starlink and Amazon Leo.

43:59Brian Schulmeister:The result, five years after Bede launched, only a small fraction of the promised connections have been delivered, and taxpayers are funding billionaires instead of building lasting local infrastructure, jobs, and economic growth.

44:12Jason DeFillippo:I don't think there's a single sector that this cronyism hasn't touched. It's insane. Yeah. So, there you have it. Well, in case you need another reason to be wary of videos showing people winning big on Polymarket, other than listening to our show and hearing us talk about Polymarket and prediction market.

44:29Brian Schulmeister:Why are you watching videos of people winning on Polymarket? That's a...

44:35Jason DeFillippo:I'm sure they're being served as ads and promoted content. An investigation by the Wall Street Journal has found that the company is paying social media creators to post misleading content promoting the prediction market. Of the 1 ,105 TikTok videos the publication reviewed, 778 appeared to show someone placing a bet. But a closer look reportedly revealed that none of the latter featured the actual Polymarket website. instead using dummy sites made to look like the real thing. More than half of the videos that appeared to show winning bets, those bets would in reality have been losses, according to the Wall Street Journal.

45:08Jason DeFillippo:The publication spoke to creators who worked with Polymarket and viewed materials. They say they were given to ensure their videos were convincing and engaging. In addition, Polymarket reportedly also enlisted a social media army to repost those videos and help them go viral. Lying liars and the lies that they lie.

45:26Brian Schulmeister:Well, and because this asshole has never had an original idea in his life, Meta is reportedly building its own prediction market app, codenamed Arena, as Zuckerberg looks to capitalize on the growing popularity of platforms like Polymarket and Kalshi. According to the New York Times, Arena would launch as a standalone mobile app through Meta. I just, I have to stop here, Brian. I have to stop. Because it just, it boggles my mind that this guy, over and over and over again, is just stealing other people's shit and doing it so poorly that nothing is going to happen with this. What he's going to do is try and buy Kalshi or Polymarket in about six months, like you said last episode.

46:05Brian Schulmeister:Yeah.

46:06Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. Well, first off, this arena is never going to get built. It's never going to get built. A billion dollars will be thrown at this, and it will never, ever, ever launch. It will never see the light of day. It's just not going to happen. He will buy something else. I really feel like Zuckerberg, all he did was about 15 years ago 10 15 years ago he set a google alert for top tech trends and and it was once a month get a little digest and he gets his little digest in the email of top tech trends and he goes hey we don't have that one yet let's build the then he goes to the boardroom and he says we're going to build this thing that that we don't have and then everybody nods their heads and then he cuts checks and lots of money goes down a well and And then eventually, if the idea sticks around long enough after they've wasted their time trying to build their own thing and it didn't work out, if the idea is still there and it's still working, he'll buy one of the companies.

47:02Jason DeFillippo:That is his entire business model.

47:04Brian Schulmeister:Well, that's how we get Instagram and WhatsApp.

47:06Jason DeFillippo:Yep.

47:07Brian Schulmeister:Those are, you know, the main ones that we all know about. Yep. And here's the funny part. They're saying that when they launch it, if they launch it, it's going to be points-based, like a video game, but no real money is involved. But they're saying that maybe in the future, real money will be involved. Right.

47:24Jason DeFillippo:This is the way of dancing around potential regulations and people talking about it and maybe some naysayers. And I just want to be able to say something that will get my investors thinking we're doing stuff.

47:34Brian Schulmeister:Exactly. But not anything bad. And the funny part is, it's like we look at the metaverse and the metaverse is such a flop because there was nobody for him to buy because it was such a phenomenally terrible idea that nobody wants it. It's like, you know, if there's nobody else to buy, there's a reason there's nobody else to buy because it's a terrible fucking idea.

47:53Jason DeFillippo:Nobody wants it.

47:55Brian Schulmeister:Nobody wants it.

47:55Jason DeFillippo:So what are you doing?

47:57Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. And this isn't the first time he's done this. I don't know if you remember this one, Brian, but six years ago, almost to the day this article came out. Back in 2020, Facebook decided that what the world really needed during the pandemic was a prediction market. The company launched Forecast, an experimental app where invited experts could earn points by making predictions about COVID elections and other major events. So we've been here before. It's just over and over again. Same shit, different fucking day. Well, I'm going to give you a little good news, Brian. This one tickled my heart.

48:32Brian Schulmeister:A non-profit group has restored the entire climate.gov archive after the Trump administration shut down the site and redirected visitors to NOAA's main climate pages, which is very interesting because NOAA's been gutted too. Climate.gov has served as a central hub for government-funded climate information, including research summaries, data sets, educational resources, climate indicators, maps, and public-facing explainers developed over more than 15 years. The administration said the move was part of implementing its Gold Standard Science Initiative. But former Climate.gov staff and volunteers responded by preserving the site's publicly funded content in launching Climate.us.

49:13Brian Schulmeister:Because federal government materials generally aren't protected by copyright, the team was able to recreate the archive in full. Awesome. You fucking go, girls. The newly restored site now includes climate news expert blogs, classroom resources, data tools and access to the fifth national climate assessment. Organizers say the goal isn't just preservation. They formed a nonprofit and plan to expand the platform with new climate education and public information resources. That's awesome.

49:44Jason DeFillippo:I like how we're now having to basically publicly source things that our government are supposed to do for us because our government just isn't doing it for us anymore. We have to do it ourselves and fund it. That's great. First, we turned GoFundMe into fucking basically medical insurance. And now we're doing it with everything else, too. That's fucking great, America. Isn't it awesome? Isn't it awesome? Yeah. Just put Charlie Sheen on the fucking flag at this point. Winning!

50:13Brian Schulmeister:Oh, and here's another one. The Trump administration wants to know if it should regulate bets on reality shows. The CFTC in a notice filed Wednesday is specifically asking for comments on whether prediction market bets on game shows, reality show competitions, and pageants should be permitted as is. No. That's it. That's no. But it'll probably happen. Not like there's staff on these shows, millions of camera people who get paid peanuts who know who the winner is.

50:40Jason DeFillippo:Yes, of course. Yeah.

50:42Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, scripted reality. No, no, Brian, it's unscripted reality.

50:45Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, sure it is. That's the point. It's unscripted reality. Uh-huh. Yeah. Right. I have my kid finally decided he wanted to watch The Mandalorian and my wife decided she would watch it with him. So I've been sitting there and when I'm not watching soccer games, have watched the show with them as they've gone along. We've finished season one. We're about halfway through season two. Solid. I forgot how solid of a show it really is. Really? Okay. Until Book of Boba Fett comes along. But so far, season one and two are just great. They're just great watches again. We don't talk about the Book of Boba.

51:21Jason DeFillippo:Unfortunately, that's coming next because I think timeline-wise, after season two ends, I have to watch Book of Boba Fett before Mandalorian season three.

51:29Brian Schulmeister:But no, there's only two episodes that you have to watch, or at least one episode. Was it two episodes or one? Yeah, but my kid's nine.

51:36Jason DeFillippo:He wants to see everything. There's a fire hose of content, Jason.

51:40Brian Schulmeister:And you have to sit him down and tell him how terrible it is and explain to him how awful it is.

51:46Jason DeFillippo:To a nine-year-old is probably great.

51:49Brian Schulmeister:Ah. He should not have gotten out of the pit that easy, is all I'm saying. Come on. I agree. 30 years of speculation. 30 years of speculation.

51:59Jason DeFillippo:And like the fucking Sarlacc burps, and there he is. Great. Done. Spoiler. Here we go.

52:08Brian Schulmeister:Chase writes in, okay, first off, yes, season two of Strange New Worlds has the best musical ever, especially the part with the Klingons. I can watch that over and over. The Klingons at the end were the first,

52:16Jason DeFillippo:fucking fast. So good. I was laughing so hard.

52:20Brian Schulmeister:Oh, God. Second, I really don't want to resubscribe to Paramount. Amen, brother. Do any of the Torrent sites still work? Been a few years since I've done that route, but I want to watch the new season and I'm torn. Well, Chase. You're not torn. You're torrent. Yes, because we are the podcast that giveth. There's a link in the show notes that you can go to Sweden with a link to everything Strange New Worlds, and it will be updated as new episodes come out. So you're welcome, Chase.

52:48Jason DeFillippo:Yes.

52:52Brian Schulmeister:And Silo, season three starts next week.

52:54Jason DeFillippo:I'm looking forward to that. That snuck up on me. I saw an ad for it earlier today. I was like, oh yeah, that's right. A quick little update for everybody. I have it in my little TV note because I keep a note of when TV shows are coming and when new episodes are coming out. Silo, July 3rd. Strange New Worlds, July 23rd. Ted Lasso, August 5th. And the new Lord of the Rings, the ring of the ring of the ring or whatever the hell they call that Amazon show will be in November at some point. We don't have an exact date yet. Okay.

53:20Brian Schulmeister:Plan accordingly. All right. I will. I actually have, I use things to track my to-dos and I have a notebook in things that tell me what's coming up. Let's see what things has to say because I know I have something coming up in the to-watch folder. Bang My Box is coming out on Tuesday. Is that Bob and Sue from accounting? No, no. That we learned about in the Metalik?

53:48Brian Schulmeister:oh it's great uh it's the robin bird story uh about uh robin bird who was a uh she had a show in new york uh it's hey man it's produced by sarah jessica parker so you know yeah that's got a great sign of quality it's got a great fucking name though come on bang you know what

54:04Jason DeFillippo:else was produced by sarah jessica park the new sex in the city shit and that was horrible yeah

54:09Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. And July 2nd, we have Undercover Chef Korea. That's all I got on my to-do, my to-watch list.

54:16Jason DeFillippo:Just go ahead and throw in Watch World Cup. Get on that. I'll try. I'll try.

54:21Brian Schulmeister:Well, Google is finally shutting the door on Manifest V2 browser extensions, a move that effectively marks the end of many traditional ad blockers in Chrome. The company has been migrating extensions to Manifest V3 for years, arguing that the new framework improves security, privacy, and performance. critics however have long warned that the changes limit how effectively ad blockers can filter web traffic so um this is interesting um i use brave which has a built-in ad blocker which is awesome if you can get past you know brendan ike as the the founder of brave which makes me throw up a little in my mouth every time i use it but and and if you can turn all the crypto shit it is a fantastic browser.

55:01Brian Schulmeister:I love it. But Chromium-based is not the answer for what's going to happen in the future because Edge and Opera are more likely to follow Chrome unless they decide to maintain the MV2 themselves. So you may be shit up a creek, Brian, because I think you're still on Opera.

55:20Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

55:22Brian Schulmeister:Maybe time to try Brave. I'm telling you, it's like once you turn everything off, it's a fine browser.

55:27Jason DeFillippo:At this point, I think I'm just literally going to turn everything off, Jason.

55:31Brian Schulmeister:Okay.

55:32Jason DeFillippo:Like the computer, the phone, the internet.

55:36Brian Schulmeister:We're going to move to Saskatchewan

55:38Jason DeFillippo:and be a farmer. We're going to be a dirt farmer. Except you can't even do that because if you buy those John Deere tractors, you have to get the subscription to get the software updates.

55:48Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. You know what I'm actually doing, Brian, after we're done recording the show that I'm doing tonight? I'm getting my food server license for the state of California so I can go work in commercial kitchens because homie needs a job. So that's what it's come to. So you can joke about it, but I'm literally going to go be a fucking line cook when we're not doing this show.

56:11Jason DeFillippo:You're going to be working in a ghost kitchen, man. That's seriously, that's going to be it.

56:16Brian Schulmeister:As long as it's not one of Travis Kalanick's ghost kitchens, I'll be okay. I'll be okay. But yeah. Hey, you got to do what you got to do, man. Got to pay the bills. Got to pay the fucking bills. That's true. So Dungeon Crawler Carl, book two. I'm almost done with it. I love these books. I listen to the audio version because it is a phenomenal way to consume these books because it is so well done. It is beyond well done. It is a full cast recording done by one fucking guy. It's incredible. But you know what I found that's interesting about these books, Brian? I don't find myself running back saying, I got to listen.

56:54Brian Schulmeister:I got to keep going. They're great when I listen to them. but it doesn't make me go, man, I feel like I really should be, you know, like a great book. I can't put down. I cannot stop reading it. These I can put down anytime I want and come back to it. And it's still fun. Makes me laugh out loud. They're great, but I'm not, it doesn't have that like, you know, hook in my heart.

57:16Jason DeFillippo:It's light. It's very light. It's light. It's fun. It's effervescent. It's popcorn. It's not, it's not a stink. It's popcorn. And, uh, it's, it's also why I really have not had a problem like initially like as soon as I finished two I was like I gotta get three and I was like no I don't

57:31Brian Schulmeister:no I don't I need a break from this

57:33Jason DeFillippo:I need to read something that has actually got a bit of soul to it that's not don't get me wrong Dungeon Crawler Carl lots and lots of fun oh so much fun it's not a deep story no there's nothing to it it's just fun and that's fine but I agree with you it's something that you can easily walk away from and come back to

57:52Brian Schulmeister:yeah and it you know it did get me to start playing Diablo again on my PlayStation 5 that I couldn't sell because nobody wanted it. But so I actually went back to actually playing video games because it tickled that itch. And it which made me think, too, it's like when I'm listening to this, I'm like, does Brian even get half the jokes in this thing? Because they're so deeply ingrained in video game culture that, you know, some of this stuff might just go over your head. But I guess there's enough crossover that, you know, you get it.

58:21Jason DeFillippo:So I mean, I'm sure there's a handful of things that probably would have been a lot funnier if I was a mega gamer. But like, you know, I was I played games with a mega gamer. Fuck those guys. I played, you know, I played games when I was a kid. It's not like I'm not aware of this. Like, you know, Elf needs food badly. I played all these games before. They just weren't like modern ones. Yeah, you're not like a World of Warcraft kind of guy. So yeah, yeah. You know, I tapped out with like Link and all those games. So, okay.

58:51Brian Schulmeister:And, you know, I do want to do a quick shout out to the guy who got butthurt because we didn't give him credit for telling us about Because he recommended the book to us over a year ago. Yeah. And we get so many book recommendations. If we read every book we get, we would never have time for the books we actually want to read. So, good on you. I can't, we can't search Patreon right now because it's all fucked up. But, you know, on Discord, that thing, that thing, you know. Planet of Trees. So, thank you very much, Planet of Trees, for recommending it and being a Patreon subscriber. We will give you credit when we can search Patreon messages or just drop me a note with your actual name and I'll give you a shout out.

59:32Brian Schulmeister:But yeah, sometimes good stuff gets through the cracks, you know, there's a lot of books.

59:38Jason DeFillippo:We get a ton of book recommendations and sometimes we get to them, sometimes we don't. Sometimes it takes a year and we don't remember that you recommended it.

59:45Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, so we'll give you credit. We promise, we promise. And then finally, Dungeon Crawler Carl goes straight to series order at Peacock from Seth MacFarlane's Fuzzy Door. I like Seth MacFarlane, and I really, I still think that Orville was the best Star Trek on the air for quite some time. But I don't think this show can be made into a TV series. I don't think it can either. It's too much. There's too much going on. There's going to be too much CG. It is just, it is, you know, theater of the mind perfect. You don't want this thing into a TV series. And that's, you know, I'm like, okay, go for it.

1:00:23Brian Schulmeister:I don't really know if I care to watch it because it is so good as it is. You know, it's only going to be a letdown. It's only going to be like, I am, what's the stoner guy that you hate? So many of them. Seth Rogen. Seth Rogen. At least Seth Rogen isn't doing this one because, you know, he's done Preacher, The Boys, all that stuff. It would just be really depressing if he did it. I think at least Seth MacFarlane has the right sense of humor to go with it. But, and I can actually see Seth MacFarlane being Carl, you know? I don't know if he's just a producer or he's going to star in it, but I can actually see him kind of pulling it off.

1:01:02Brian Schulmeister:Right. But I just think there's too much going on there. There's way too much going on there. So, anyway, that's the news that's all fit to print there. And I'd like to thank everybody that bought my new app, Track-A-Lot. All 14 of you, I've made$36. so far. I only have $73 or no,$63 left to make to actually cover the cost of the App Store developer subscription I had to buy to be able to make the app and put it on the iOS store. But give it a shot if you want. Links in the show notes. It's only$2.99 and I've gotten great reviews so far. Everybody that got it actually likes it. So, yeah. I'm cool with that.

1:01:44Brian Schulmeister:Thanks. Buy his app, people. Yeah, please. about 300 of you please go buy the app and then then i can actually get my health insurance next week without having to go work for a ghost kitchen but we know that's not going to happen so you want fries with that brian uh yes please and now to thank the people that make this show possible over at patreon we've got a new subscriber harvard and we've got uh we'd like to say thank you to everybody else mark craig j eddie james andre paul dan philip and ryan who also keep the wheels on the on the wagon going round and round. So thank you all so much for your continued support.

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