755: Less Chatty Mode

11:01Brian Schulmeister:No.

11:02Jason DeFillippo:So, yes, AI appreciation day. So, yes, that's going to be awesome.

11:07Brian Schulmeister:Well, we can all sit around, Brian, and watch the new Anthropic ad. Oh, Jiminy, did you get a chance to check this out? I did. Oh, my God. So, Anthropic's latest ad completely ignores everything that anyone has said about AI and sticks its dick squarely in a blender. It opens with a burning house surveillance style facial scanning in a cemetery while asking whether AI can be trusted and who would stop it if necessary. It's a series of questions that if you apply Betteridge's Law of Headlines, the answer is firmly no across the entire ad. It is a total dumpster fire that was i think probably brian this had to be created by humans because the fucking ai would have more humanity than that ad is trying to have 100 yeah it's crazy it's insane in the tagline there's hope in hard questions and the hardest question i have is why do you keep trying to scare people into using your product when you over and over again tell

12:06Jason DeFillippo:us it's going to ruin the fucking world anthropic get your shit together man i know i I know. It's crazy. Well, I don't know what the world record is for killing bad AI features quickly. In fact, there probably isn't one because we just get new ones shoved down our throats left, right and center. But we do have...

12:22Brian Schulmeister:We gotta go to CalShe. CalShe. We need to start betting on the CalShe.

12:26Jason DeFillippo:But we definitely have one entry in this field. On Tuesday, July 7th, Meta released an AI photo generation feature that pulled face data from any public Instagram account by default. We talked about this and just, you know, jaws dropped. So it lasted all of three days. Uh,

12:44Brian Schulmeister:that's a, that's a, that's a half scare. It's not even a half scaramoochie.

12:47Jason DeFillippo:No, because the upcry or the outcry against this was just massive. So this is tied to Muse Image. We talked about this and, and basically people lost their shit about this. And, uh, so they said earlier this week, we announced that one way for people to generate images and meta AI is by at mentioning public Instagram accounts that they want to reference. Our intent was to provide a useful creative tool and give people control. give people control over whether they're away from taking it away over whether their public content could be referenced in this way we've heard the feedback that this feature missed the mark so it is no longer available yeah so saga after captured the mood pretty well with its friday statement on this feature anything than a clear and conspicuous opt-in for these types of uses of instagram users images is unacceptable and an utter miscalculation of public sentiment regarding the obvious dangers and harms inherent in such use.

13:42Jason DeFillippo:According to Reuters, after the feature was pulled, a SAG-AFTRA spokesperson said, with the dangers of non-consensual digital replicas well known to all, a feature that encouraged that behavior is unwise. Looking at you, Grok.

13:55Brian Schulmeister:Next up. Speaking of unwise features, Flock Safety. I don't know about you, Brian, but on Instagram, all I'm getting now are videos of people saying, You know, you really shouldn't point to green laser right at the sensor on a flock camera because it will disable the flock camera. You really shouldn't go buy a Sawzall and chop down. It's great.

14:16Jason DeFillippo:I've had a lot of that, too. It's like how to recognize which one is a flock camera and which one isn't and then act accordingly. Yes.

14:24Brian Schulmeister:Well, Flock Safety says it hopes to resume its partnership with the Los Angeles Police Department after the agency let a three year contract expire without renewal.

14:33Jason DeFillippo:I have to say this is the first time in. Most of my adult life that I actually applaud the Los Angeles Police Department for a decision. I know.

14:42Brian Schulmeister:I know. It's a shocker. Absolute shocker. Flock told Gizmodo it was surprised by the decision and believes ongoing discussions can resolve what it calls misconceptions. Yeah, misconceptions. If you don't know, Flock operates automated license plate readers that let police abuse vehicle tracking data across the entire country and are expanding to even more signals intelligence, which is a very frightening prospect. They're going to start basically doing Bluetooth and cell phone tracking and IE tracking and all that stuff. So, no, this company needs to go. It needs to go. I mean, this is the Panopticon.

15:19Brian Schulmeister:Like, it's insane. And it's in private hands. And the thing is, it's in private hands and law enforcement just abuses it over and over and over again. So it's like, these guys got to fucking go. So feel free to go check out my Instagram feed at instagram.com slash JPD, where I repost a lot of things that you should not do when you see a flock camera or how to find them. This episode is sponsored by Delete Me. Have you ever thought I should really be doing something to protect myself from stalkers, scammers and hackers, but you're not sure what? Here's what you do. Go to www.joindeliteme.com slash GOG and enter code GOG and you'll get 20 % off Delete Me.

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18:42Brian Schulmeister:Your entire company is based on other people's trade secrets, you motherfucking fucks. That's all you are. AI is just other people's secrets. Fucking assholes. It's true. The suit alleges the misconduct was directed by OpenAI's senior leadership, including Chief Hardware Officer Tang Tan, a 24-year Apple veteran. Apple claims Tan used confidential Apple product codenames while recruiting and asked candidates to bring in Apple hardware components and coached departing employees on evading security procedures. Another named engineer allegedly kept an Apple laptop after leaving and used it to download confidential technical documents.

19:21Brian Schulmeister:The complaint comes as OpenAI is rumored to be building its own hardware device, a potential threat to the iPhone. And that has come out that it's going to be a smart speaker like a lady in a tube. That's right.

19:34Brian Schulmeister:They didn't want to release that, but they had to, you know, because of all the shit that everybody's saying about you're going to make a phone and you're stealing all our phone stuff. They're like, no, we're not. We're making a lady in a tube. So unless we've hired somebody from Amazon, shut the fuck up.

19:48Jason DeFillippo:Definitely. Well, speaking of Apple and AI, just really quickly, I'm moving a story up a little bit just because it ties in right here really well. And I actually didn't, I have no personal knowledge about this because I'm not on any of the betas. But according to somebody over at Gizmodo, what we thought would happen and what Apple always does, this person is claiming did happen, which is Apple waits and waits when new technologies come out. and then they release something that is perfect and actually works as opposed to the crap that we usually get at the beginning. And this guy at Gizmodo says Apple fucking did it one month with Siri AI.

20:23Jason DeFillippo:So he's been using the beta and he says that apparently Siri AI is the bomb.com. It actually works. It does what it's supposed to do. It's not incredibly invasive. You start to really use it all the time and start to rely on it. So I figured you do the beta stuff. Have you seen any of this?

20:41Brian Schulmeister:No, I don't because I'm working on my app trackalot at trackalot.me and I did not want to install the beta this time because I'm working on bug fixes for the current version. So if I install the beta then I'm going to have to be doing other crap. But after this new release comes out, which has Apple Watch support, which is pretty cool so you can track on your watch. I love it. I will be installing the beta and giving it a shot. The one thing that bums me out is that the new on-device models only work with 17 and up. So you have to have an iPhone 17 and higher, and I've got a 16 Pro Max, which you'd think would be something like that, but not apparently enough horsepower.

21:17Brian Schulmeister:Not good enough. And I wonder what, I can't wait to see what the battery's like when you're actually using these on-device models. Yeah. It's like, might as well probably, you know, mine some Bitcoin while you're at it and just watch your battery tank.

21:30Jason DeFillippo:Yeah.

21:30Brian Schulmeister:But no, hopefully next week, I'll be able to report on this. But it's in public beta, so anybody can get it right now. You can go get it yourself.

21:35Jason DeFillippo:I'm curious. I'm curious if anybody on our Discord has been using it. So it is very on brand for Apple. They wait and then they release something that's really good.

21:45Brian Schulmeister:Except if you count in the original Siri, which has sucked balls since day one. Well, you figure they've had long enough to try to get it to work right now. That's true. That's true. Well, the Daily News and other newspapers have asked a federal judge to sanction OpenAI, accusing the chat GPT maker of hiding evidence in a major copyright lawsuit. The publishers say OpenAI has stalled on turning over training data sets and chat logs that could reveal whether the company used copyrighted news articles without permission.

22:13Jason DeFillippo:Do we really even need to prove that at this point?

22:16Brian Schulmeister:No, we don't. OK, all right. Their filing claims a recent employee deposition contradicts OpenAI's past statements about its ability to search that data. And one attorney accused the company of hiding and destroying evidence. OpenAI says it's protecting user privacy and stands by its fair use defense, adding that the Times case has weakened. The Times sued OpenAI and Microsoft in 2023 and has since been joined by outlets including the Chicago Tribune and Center for Investigative Reporting. The case is one of many testing whether AI companies can legally train on copyrighted material. Following Anthropik's$1.5 billion settlement with authors over pirated books.

22:53So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

23:00Brian Schulmeister:Now, a new Verisite survey finds 69 % of U.S. employees support requiring major AI companies to transfer half their stock into a public wealth fund. The survey polled 1 ,700 adults nationwide. That's 1 ,700 people who haven't looked at the financials of these fucking scam artists. I was about to say, I don't want that stock because they are not profitable. The proposal championed by, of course, Bernie Sanders would impose a one time 50 percent stock tax on firms such as OpenAI and Anthropic, potentially creating a fund worth about seven trillion dollars. Really, Bernie? Where the fuck are you getting those numbers?

23:37Brian Schulmeister:The same place those companies are getting the numbers, Jason. That's true. That's true. Support remains strong, 64 percent, even when the policy is explicitly linked to Bernie Sanders. So that's only 5 % of the people said, no, I can't get behind it if Bernie's doing it. But advocates say the fund could distribute AI's economic gains and help offset job losses and other disruptions. Critics warn government ownership could weaken regulation and increase the industry's political influence. The rest of us who have been looking at the numbers say this is all bullshit smoke and mirrors because these guys have not made a fucking dime.

24:11Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, you're better off. You're better off placing bets on Calci.

24:15Brian Schulmeister:Or SpaceX.

24:16Jason DeFillippo:SpaceX actually has a better chance. That's true, actually. Well, we'll see. Anyways, New York has become the first U.S. state to place a moratorium on the construction of data centers. According to The Washington Post, Governor Kathy Hochul signed an executive order pausing environmental permits for large data centers consuming more than 50 megawatts for up to a year. This would give state officials the required time to create rules protecting the electrical grid environment and local communities. So, you know, Elon can't fire up the methane producing power and destroy entire environments. This order will take effect immediately and not affect projects that already have required permits.

24:53Jason DeFillippo:So the executive order is separate from New York's responsible Data Center Development Act, which was recently passed by the state legislator. That bill would have also banned data center permits for a year while also requiring energy efficiency goals for data centers and specific benefits for host communities. She has yet to sign that bill, but is considering it. She has previously expressed support for AI as a potential research tool and economic booster, but in the face of public opposition to data centers, multiple states are attempting to enact bans. This moratorium was passed recently by a Maine state legislator.

25:25Jason DeFillippo:It was vetoed by Democratic Governor Janet Mills. Janet. Janet. Janet. it. Europe and Nibiru. Other states with legislation advancing includes Washington, Wisconsin, Illinois, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Connecticut, and South Carolina. And local bans have also been enacted in cities like Seattle. So, yeah, people are very nimbying about this. Actually, they're just not nimbying. They're just not anywhere, please. Not just not my backyard. We don't need this. Thank you.

25:55Brian Schulmeister:We're done. We've got enough. We have enough data. We don't need more sensors for it. Astronomers have detected a previously hidden population of space debris in geosynchronous orbit, the valuable region about 35 ,786 kilometers above the equator. About 35 ,786. Roughly. Roughly 35 ,786 kilometers above the equator. Could be five, could be seven, but, you know, somewhere in there. This is where communications, weather, television, and navigation satellites operate. Reanalyzing archival images from the Isaac Newton telescope with a technique called blind stacking, researchers have found 25 faint debris tracks, including fragments as small as 5 centimeters.

26:34Brian Schulmeister:It's a hell of a fucking telescope, I tell you. Nearly 80 % appear linked to undocumented breakup events. Because debris at this altitude is difficult to see and can remain in orbit indefinitely, even tiny pieces pose serious collision risks at several kilometers per second. We've all seen the movies. Yes, we have. Researchers say improved surveys are urgently needed before more satellites are launched into the region, which means they probably won't have any improved surveys because nobody's home anymore. And it's... Yeah. Yeah. Well, a lawsuit from 26 former Meta employees claims the company used internal AI systems to help choose roughly 8 ,000 workers for its May layoffs, disproportionately targeting people with disabilities and those who took protected medical or family leave.

27:21Brian Schulmeister:Right. Let's see who's costing us the most money.

27:24Jason DeFillippo:Mm-hmm.

27:25Brian Schulmeister:Thanks, AI. The complaint says that, quote, Meta did not assemble the termination list through the considered judgment of managers who knew the work. Instead, Meta used a constellation of internal artificial intelligence systems, including a system referred to internally as MetaMate, which sounds like an internal dating app for, you know, hooking up with Janet from accounting. Or a Pi Fiber substitute. Oh, that too. Yeah. I love my MetaMate. Keeps me regular. Yeah. employee-trained second-brain agents, keystroke and activity monitoring data, AI token usage dashboards, and algorithmically-assisted performance ranking and calibration as well to score, rank, and select employees for inclusion on the list.

28:08Jason DeFillippo:I just want to pause for one second. Remember back when we kind of started on the show and everybody wanted to go work for these tech companies? They had all these perks. It's like you lounge and there's a kitchen and they'll cook you whatever you want. And there's ping-pong tables and there's video games and there's little sleep pods, which masturbation pods, let's be honest. And there was all this other stuff and it was like, oh my God, these companies and they pay so well. Who wouldn't want to work for these companies? Keystroke and activity monitoring data, AI token usage dashboards, algorithmically performance rankings and calibrations, which are scoring, ranking and selecting employees.

28:47Jason DeFillippo:This sounds like a fucking nightmare. Who would want to work at a company that does all this?

28:53Brian Schulmeister:Not a lot of people nowadays because that's why the, you know, the morale is at an all time low. It's because it went from it went from that. It went from the place where bros could hang out and have a great time. They'll do your laundry for you even because you're a stanky old fuck because you're coding all day. Now it's just like you are. It's Kafkaesque. It's it's horrible. They might as well have flock cameras set up everywhere. I'm sure they do. I'm sure they do. Plaintiffs argue Metta failed to adjust scores for leave or accommodations, violating federal and state discrimination laws. Metta denies the allegation, saying you opted in by working here.

29:29Brian Schulmeister:Right. Saying workforce decisions were made by people. The employees seek to pause terminations, preserve records and require an independent audit of the selection process. Well, a federal judge has dismissed, with prejudice, a proposed class action lawsuit accusing Apple of failing to prevent child sexual abuse material from being stored and shared through iCloud. Two survivors identified as Amy and Jessica said Apple knowingly declined to use available detection tools, including NeuralHash, a system announced in 2021 and later abandoned. They sought to represent roughly 2 ,680 survivors with potential damages estimated at$32.8 billion.

30:07Brian Schulmeister:Judge Noel Wise ruled that the claims are barred by Section 230, which generally shields online services from liability for user-generated content. The plaintiff's attorney said they're considering an appeal in other legal options. I have thoughts, Brian, but so do you. I can see you're chomping at the bit. I just, I mean, how can you argue with a judge named Wise? I know. She is very wise. We actually discussed this quite a bit, the neural hash technology, when it first came out in 2021, five years ago. And everybody was ecstatic that they abandoned it because they're like, keep your hands off my data on my phone because it's a slippery slope.

30:45Brian Schulmeister:So I understand why these people might be upset, but there's a reason that we have protections at Apple for shit like this. We don't want it. We don't want them checking on everything in our phone because we've seen what happens when somebody, like, says, takes a picture of his kid in a bath and posts it to Google Photos and then has his life ruined.

31:03Jason DeFillippo:Yes.

31:03Brian Schulmeister:You know, we've seen it happen.

31:05Jason DeFillippo:There are other ways to to find CSAM and to track it and to do all the things that you need to do without going this invasive.

31:12Brian Schulmeister:Just go to Grok.

31:15Jason DeFillippo:Just go to Grok.

31:18Brian Schulmeister:Here's a fun one. Professional cyclist Willie Smith was disqualified from a race after wearing Oakley Meta smart glasses, apparently unaware of a rule introduced in April banning them. Smith said the glasses were used to record point of view footage, not gain an advantage, and argued that a warning or fine would have been sufficient. Sports organizers are increasingly concerned that smart glasses could enable covert communication, real-time betting, cheating, or AI-powered performance coaching. The real-time betting is the thing. You're wearing your Calci glasses, and somebody bets that you're going to come in fourth, or at the split, you're going to be at this position, and you get a voice in your ear saying, pull back, let three people go.

31:57Brian Schulmeister:boom we just made a hundred thousand dollars okay kick it back into gear that shit's gonna happen

32:01Jason DeFillippo:so i can totally understand this yes absolutely absolutely and i don't believe for a fucking second that they were unaware of the rule banning them nobody on your team follows the rules that are introduced for months in the sport in the tiny sport that you are that you are participating in

32:18Brian Schulmeister:give me a break yeah crap if you're a professional cyclist and you're entering a cycling race you

32:24Jason DeFillippo:know what the rules are come on that's that's such a joke yeah so all right another nicks for the meta the meta glasses all right no there you go so let's uh transition over to a bit of media candy here i i have my sober on an early morning flight movie reviews i got a chance to watch a couple movies i do want to state for uh i flew with the ghostbuster jason what yes uh we we ran into this particular Ghostbuster in the lounge. My son, well, actually my wife first noticed him and then my son was like, yeah, that's totally him. It was Ernie Hudson. No way. Yeah, and then he was on our flight as well.

33:01Jason DeFillippo:And I've got to say, because my wife has to do the thing that she does, which is she Googles people immediately. Ernie Hudson is in his 80s. The dude looks amazing. Black don't crack. He looks like he's in his 50s. Like it's unbelievable. He was a super nice guy. A bunch of kids were coming up to him, taking pictures and everything. and I was just like, damn, I ain't afraid of no ghosts. This is great. Did you send your kid over to get a picture? He didn't want to. My kid got a little bit shy. Oh, okay. Anyways, it was pretty cool though. I haven't been on a flight with a celeb in a while. I used to be always, because I was doing the Toronto LA flight all the time before I had moved there and I was just visiting my not wife at the time and I was always with celebrities because so many people were shooting in Toronto.

33:46Jason DeFillippo:I flew with, just from Battlestar Galactica, I flew with Trisha... Helfer. Helfer once and Grace Park once. So nice. Yeah. Never got Katie Sack off. I was trying to get my Trinity, but didn't work out.

33:57Brian Schulmeister:That would have been the Trinity. Absolutely. Well, if you want celebrities, just go to an AA meeting in LA. You can have as many as you want.

34:04Jason DeFillippo:That's true. You get really fucking sick of them fast. And you can't talk about them. Yep. So I did watch a couple of movies, two movies on the flight. I finally got around to seeing Project Hail Mary. Yes. On a tiny screen on a flight is not the best way to see the movie, but I'd already read the book i do the story so it was fine uh really enjoyed the movie i don't know if i liked it as much as the martian i think i like the martian more but project tailmary was pretty great i i love the i loved it i love the characters i loved uh i love the interactions uh and again people another movie that shows what happens if a tiny little thing hits your spaceship not good not

34:40Brian Schulmeister:good not good i watched it on an ipad i thought it was fine too yeah it was a good movie i really enjoyed yeah yeah i i still liked it better than the martian i like i actually liked it better than the martian because i because i just still think that they fucked up the martian on the first line the first line of the book you know it's really it's like come on man yeah okay and then i finally

35:01Jason DeFillippo:got around to seeing good luck have fun and don't die because it was on the plane what do you think you know i think i think i matrixed myself here um oh i think i was expecting a lot because i'd heard about how great it was and i i had high expectations and it didn't quite meet them

35:18Brian Schulmeister:i thought it was good uh but not great okay yeah i went in with no expectation so when you go in with nothing and you come out with that it's just like oh man it was so good yeah i kind of wish i

35:30Jason DeFillippo:would have just ponied up the bucks to see it right away instead of waiting and having having heard all the hype about it so enjoyed it didn't love it okay okay yeah uh we finally have some news about the hunt for golem the upcoming lord of the rings film which is going to be directed by andy circus and coming to theaters uh december 17th 2027 after years of anticipation and speculation cameras began rolling on the lord of the rings the hunt for golem uh and according to the news uh warner brothers has released a short video that's sure to give you some goosebumps i did watch it and it got me excited in addition to andy circus uh ian mckellen elijah wood and Lee Pace are returning to their roles as Gandalf, Frodo, and Tharandal.

36:11Jason DeFillippo:Jamie Dornan is replacing Viggo Mortensen as Aragon. And Kate Winslet will be joining the fray as Marigol, and Anna Taylor-Joy as a character named Saren. So, very much looking forward to this. I hope they don't screw it up. Don't hobbit it. Don't hobbit it.

36:25Brian Schulmeister:I hope we're still alive by December 17, 2027. That's a long way to go. That's true. It is true. But you did get the feels. You did get the feels from the...

36:34Jason DeFillippo:It felt good. It felt good. Yeah.

36:35Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. Yeah. I watched a movie from last year called Black Bag, which turned out to be it's like a kind of a British spy thriller type of thing. You know, Michael Fassbender, Cate Blanchett. I thought it was going to be one thing turned out to be another. It was a great little movie. It was a great little movie. Steven Soderbergh. He's usually pretty solid. Yeah. Yeah. It's it is a solid movie. I really liked it. I really liked it. Um, that's about it for me. I've been slacking on my, my, my, my intake.

37:10Jason DeFillippo:A little bit of doodad issue. I saw this because I have some Philips, uh, Philips smart lights in a Philips Hue bridge, um, that control a few things. But, and I heard that there was a, there was a big outage that they got bricked after installing a software update back in June. But then I found out that it was like a hundred people. Oh, okay. At first, I was like, I was outraged because I was like, and this is the problem with the smart stuff. Can you imagine not having lights because the damn thing breaks on you as opposed to just, you know, flipping a switch and knowing you're going to have lights?

37:41Jason DeFillippo:But yeah, Philips has confirmed that an update installed in a very specific way has caused less than 100 BridgePro devices to stop working. It will replace all those devices for anyone affected free of charge and regardless of warranty status. So it was a very specific software update scenario where they had to have automatic updates disabled, remained on an older version for an extended period, then manually installed the update after storing it on the bridge device for more than 10 days. That's complicated. That is. That's like some witchcraft there. Yeah. So a little less outraged when I heard about this.

38:19Jason DeFillippo:I would actually rolled out. So there you go. and speaking of rolling out ways google's other navigation app is getting a collection of new ai powered features that make it easier to navigate on a motorcycle and less annoying to receive directions i'm gonna say you maybe shouldn't be using ai while you're on a motorcycle but the app's new motorcycle mode uses ai to consider the specific needs of two-wheeled vehicles according to google this includes specific shortcuts that might only be available to motorcycles and hazards that are tricky for riders like potpulls speed bumps race crosswalks shoulder endings, and narrow bridges.

38:50Jason DeFillippo:So yeah, the app's insights are at least still powered by using a real-time traffic map and a group of human, motorcycle-focused editors who keep things up to date with hazards. They're also rolling out something that I wish people had, a new less chatty mode, which tweaks how Waze communicates. If you hate constantly being interrupted by your next turn or upcoming hazards, toggling voice guidance to less chatty minimizes the app's voice prompts and focuses them on critical directions and reminders. i need this at my hairdresser oh i know please that would be nice uh and according to an anonymously source report from mark german at bloomberg the we talked about this briefly up above the much hyped and frequently mocked physical doohickey coming soon from open ai will be a smart speaker with legs yeah so who knows really uh we'll find out but apparently it's a portable uh battery powered and small enough to be easy to move from one room to another, like a baby monitor or a 90s cordless phone, perhaps.

39:53Jason DeFillippo:It will be capable of controlling the smart appliances in your house, screenless and chatbot powered like a smart speaker. And then there's this curveball, it will reportedly have mechanical components that allow it to move in some way or another, giving the impression that it is alive.

40:07Brian Schulmeister:I got it. I know what this is. Spiderbot. No, it's Tweaky and Dr. Theopolis from Buck Rogers. Beeddy, beeddy, beeddy.

40:16Jason DeFillippo:Yeah, well, we'll see.

40:17Brian Schulmeister:Tweaky just takes them around and then he puts Dr. Theopolis on the counter and it just talks to you. That's it.

40:22Jason DeFillippo:It does not sound particularly groundbreaking or particularly interesting, but it needs to live up to every part of that claim and more because it will not be an exaggeration to say it is the most hyperbolically hyped up device since the Segway scooter in 2001. And we know how that one went. Yeah, really? That was a winner. But Altman is saying that this will be the coolest piece of technology the world will have ever seen. A smart speaker with legs. Smart speaker.

40:51Brian Schulmeister:Developed by Johnny Ive. Yes. What's that old robot from Star Wars, the ball that rolls around? BB-8. BB-8. Just put a speaker on BB-8 and let it follow you around the house. That's true. Come on.

41:07Jason DeFillippo:You can replace that little top bit with a smart speaker. Makes total sense. Somebody should do that. That's it. Well, according to multiple reports, an AI-powered shopping plug-in, Fia, used a tactic known as cookie stuffing to attach its affiliate code to sales. It didn't actually drive. Fia, which launched last spring. Now, this wouldn't be notable except for its co-founder, Phoebe Gates, Bill Gates' daughter. I suppose the Gates family knows something about fucking the rules up.

41:34Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do.

41:36Jason DeFillippo:doing anything to win. Now, why Phoebe Gates is doing a startup on her own? Well, I wonder who's funding that startup. I don't know. Anyways, investigations by researcher Ben Edelman, Bloomberg, and Capital One Shopping all reportedly found instances of the browser extension claiming referrals through fake clicks and even taking credit for sales that other publishers should have gotten the commissions for. They published a detailed breakdown on how this worked, complete with a video showing Fia's affiliate link invisibly loaded into a second tab on iOS after visiting the merchant's website. Fia has blamed the issues highlighted in the investigation on a bug.

42:13Jason DeFillippo:Oh, bullshit. Oh, bullshit. A spokesperson for the company said, within the last 24 hours, we were made aware that in a recent release, our code base was causing misattributions from a subset of users. As soon as we were notified, we checked our bank account. Our team worked overnight to identify, mitigate, and has since resolved the issue, aka we got

42:34Brian Schulmeister:caught yeah 100 you got caught you fuckers you fuckers yeah i haven't really had a chance to

42:43Jason DeFillippo:read much recently but i am still working on a book but i did read an article that um depressed the living hell out of me that i think everybody should read and ironically no one will read because the whole point of the article is nobody reads yeah that's about it so it's the end of reading is here. It's over at the Atlantic. It is long form. It is packed full of stats. It is packed full of history. It is it is it's very interesting. And oh, my God, is it depressing? Just a couple of quick bits here. It seems the age of reading might be a short anomaly in human history, according to the National Endowment for the Arts, which conducts the most comprehensive survey of the nation's reading habits.

43:25Jason DeFillippo:Fewer than half of all adults reported having read a book of any kind in 2022. Only 38 % read a novel or short story. A study analyzing 236 ,000 responses to the American Time Use Survey found the proportion of Americans who read for pleasure on any given day fell from 28 % in 2004 to 16 % in 2023. The study looked at people who had read a book, magazine, or newspaper, listened to an audiobook, or read an e-book, so the bar was low.

43:57Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, they just threw everything in there. Yes.

43:59Jason DeFillippo:Have you seen a word on paper?

44:02Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, that's about it. But they even put in, listen to an audio book.

44:05Jason DeFillippo:Yes. So gambling, one of my pet peeves, has become a more common leisure activity than reading a book. Last year, 57 % of Americans placed a bet compared to the under 16 % that read anything. This decline in reading cuts across age groups, gender, and education levels. Even the demographics that traditionally read the most retirees, women, and college graduates have seen a collapse. And the books that people are reading are simpler than they used to be. We are dumbing down even for the few people that are supposedly smart.

44:40Brian Schulmeister:Great. Just what I wanted to hear. So hopefully all these people are listening to podcasts. Oh, wait. I looked at our numbers. No, they're not. So I don't know what the fuck they're doing. Yeah. Well, they're gambling. They're on Cal sheet. Dicking around on Cal sheet. Yes, with their smart classes. Fuck me. Well, we took a quick break and went out in the hallway, and look who we found, Dave Bittner from the Cyber Wire. Hi, Dave.

45:02Jason DeFillippo:Hello. Yeah, like a bad cold.

45:05Brian Schulmeister:You can't get rid of me. Yeah. Excellent. All right, we go for a month, and now you're here twice in a row. Jesus, we've got to make this a habit or something. I know. Almost like you work here. Well, I got some good news for you guys. Star Wars fans can now catch The Mandalorian and Grogu at home starting July 21st when the film arrives on digital platforms two months after its theatrical debut. With physical editions to follow on August 25th, including DVD, Blu-ray, 4K, Steelbook, and Beskar Collector's Editions. So you guys can spend all your monies if you want to. I know you love the Star Wars.

45:39Jason DeFillippo:We do. Yes, you do. Yes. I can't see myself buying any of these. But when it comes to Disney +, whenever that happens, which, as you pointed out in the notes here, that has not been announced. But I will probably watch it a second time. All right. Yeah, I will watch it, too, when it comes out on Disney+. I'm not paying for it again. I've already paid for it once. As you know, Dave, I am now in Los Angeles. I'm actually technically in Anaheim. I am literally three blocks away from Disneyland, where I grew up. and this this when i read through this seeing about the dvd the blu-ray the 4k the steelbook and the best cars collectors edition i have not gone to disneyland yet we are we'll be going probably next week or the week after we're waiting for the anaheim local uh special ticket prices to be released which they usually do when they're not getting enough uh people coming gee i wonder why people aren't traveling to the united states right now i'd say it is a mystery so they're having a lot of disposable income.

46:42Jason DeFillippo:Or that, yes. So they usually release specially priced tickets for Anaheim residents. So we'll be buying those tickets then. But I did take my son the other day over to downtown Disney. So we walked through that area and all the shops and the restaurants and all the things that lead up to where you can enter into Disneyland or California Adventure. And yeah, that's DVD, Blu-ray, 4K Steelbook and Best Car Collector's Edition. There is too much of everything. Too much. We went to the Star Wars store. There are the Special Collectors이드actions lightsabers. There's the build-your-own lightsabers. There's the cheaper versions of the lightsabers.

47:24Jason DeFillippo:There's the droids you can buy. There's the droids you can buy with chips. There's the droids you can buy without chips. There's the medium-sized droids. There's the small droids. There's the big droids. There are the crystals that you can buy that you can put in the lightsabers and the Sith Wayfinder and the Jedi Holocron and the lightsabers and the droids. And then it does different sounds for all the different things that she can do that. And this is just the Star Wars store. Then you go to the Disney store and it's like the amount of things, my son's mind is blown and he's at the age now where he's just really, he's starting to get chores for an allowance and he's starting to understand what money is.

48:03Jason DeFillippo:And he is counting every penny and trying to figure out what he wants to buy. And of course he wants it all because there's too much of everything. It is insane what we're inundated with now in terms of everything. And it's mind-blowing, especially in, like, I had action figures. And even that was, like, overwhelming. And I was talking to my mom about it, and she was like, yeah, you would not shut up about wanting to go to Toys R Us every time I gave you five bucks because you had to go spend it immediately to go get a new Stormtrooper character or something like that. And I just it was it was overwhelming and it's still overwhelming because now I told my son, OK, what you need to do is you need to make a list of everything you want, put them in order of how, you know, what you would want most.

48:49Jason DeFillippo:Then we will look at the prices of everything, because if you get that special lightsaber that you want, that's almost three hundred dollars. Plus, we need the carrying case, plus it ends up being almost five hundred dollars. You do not have five hundred dollars.

49:05Jason DeFillippo:right right right and so the decision not to tell him about the savings accounts and investment accounts i created for him when he was born is definitely a good decision i made now because if he finds out that he has all this money i will never hear the end of it yeah but yeah it was uh it's just there's so much and that is just star wars within disney And then if you start talking about every, like, I know people are saying everything's gone digital, but no, it hasn't. Like, there is so much to buy if you want, especially if you're a kid. And you feel like.

49:39Brian Schulmeister:There's more than enough stuff to knock you down a tax bracket no matter which way you go. Yes.

49:43Jason DeFillippo:Do you feel like they're successful in generating desire in him for these things? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think kids, you know, as we've gotten older, well, no, this is a bad group to be talking to. As I know, Dave, you you you are you you would like to buy everything Star Wars. You are looking to get an R2D2 from Home Depot. You want a Stormtrooper outfit. You know, it's it's it look over his shoulder in the video. We can. So, yeah, you know, there's no doubt that they are they are successful. and certainly walking around downtown Disney, there were plenty of adults that didn't even have children carrying bags of stuff.

50:28Jason DeFillippo:You know, Lego store, Star Wars store. You see all these adults walking around with these huge Lego bags, you know, because they bought the Death Star or whatever. Yes. Again, we went into the Lego store as well. Of course, they have the Death Star and Lucas was like, I want that. I was like, that is a thousand dollars. You are not getting that. and there was like a 20-ish something woman next to me and her friend and obviously they looked like kind of cosplayer type people and she was like yeah that's the most expensive lego set ever made i was like thank you yeah i mean but that that's really uh i mean it's interesting parenting challenge of uh well but i mean instilling the sense of value that money has value when you're fortunate enough, you know, you and your wife make decent good living.

51:21Jason DeFillippo:And so it's not that you are watching every penny, but you want to balance that against making the kid understand that just because you could doesn't mean you should when it comes to buying everything. Yeah. And that was the big argument for the fancy lightsaber too, because I was like, you need to understand this. You cannot play with that one. Like you cannot go into the basement with your friends like the cheaper ones that you have and smack them into each other. Right. If you break this$500 lightsaber, I will be angry and you will not be getting another one. Right. Do you guys remember when we were kids, you know, famously they had that desperate run to try to create anything, any Star Wars toy because no one expected the movie to do well.

52:09Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. Do you guys remember inflatable lightsabers? I do, and they actually still make them. Really? Yes. They make, like, blow up, like, just like a beach ball material, blow up lightsaber. They don't glow or anything, but they're great. Like, we have three of them, and, you know, sometimes when his friends come over, I'm just like, use those instead. Because you guys are going to put an eye out, even with the cheap plastic ones. You put an eye out. The thing I remember is... I want a Daisy. I can't remember the name of the gun, right? Yeah. Red Rider. Red Rider. Red Rider. The one I remember was actually an inflatable glowing part attached to a flashlight.

52:49Jason DeFillippo:Oh, I do remember that too. Yeah, I think I had one of those. I'm pretty sure I did. It was yellow, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then there were knockoffs that had an actual plastic tube. They had like little plastic colored chips that you could put on top of the flashlight to change the color of your lightsaber. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. It would come a long way. Yeah, it is a balance and it's a struggle right now, especially since, you know, you also want to, we were trying to teach him, this is your money. You can spend it on what you want, but I want you to make smart, informed decisions on what you, not just impulse.

53:29Jason DeFillippo:There's this famous study about kids, the marshmallow study. Are you familiar? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so my son would fail.

53:38Brian Schulmeister:in case you didn't know jason i think most of us would jason if you didn't know the marshmallow study is they i know the study it's been debunked a million times but i do know the study well

53:47Jason DeFillippo:it's been debunked a million times until you become a parent and then you realize it's it is absolutely 100 true

53:57Jason DeFillippo:so yeah it is you know it's whatever is in front of his face right now is the thing he wants the most first it was the 500 lightsaber then as soon as we went to the lego store it was the thousand dollar death star and then as soon as we went to the next disney store it was whatever most expensive thing in there was so yeah well both of my boys who are both much older than your son my oldest is 27 and my youngest is 19 uh they've done the lightsaber experience thing god he wants to do that yes yeah yeah um and the oldest he has his own money so you know that was his money to blow if you know he's he's an adult so yes whatever he wanted to do but last time we were down there with my youngest um the way that my wife and i justified spoiling him was to offer him matching funds yes or something terribly expensive like that so at least he had some skin in the game uh so anyway you know it's probably just like i said just justifying for ourselves to make ourselves feel better but yeah we do a lot of that as parents as well a lot of it's justifying the fact that yes to your point like we can spoil it and so we often do because it feels good and it's you know i know my wife is definitely uh kind of somewhat reliving i i had a pretty idyllic childhood growing up by Disneyland, as you'd imagine.

55:25Jason DeFillippo:I mean, we were not rich by any means, but I did not want or lack for anything, even though it felt like it all the time. My wife a little bit, my wife came from slightly more immigrant Chinese parents. So I know to some degree she's trying to give Lucas the childhood that she did not have herself. So there's a lot of that happening as well. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it. I get it. That's good times. Yeah. I know we're trying to keep an eye on our time this week, so I want to jump to something in our rundown here that has really been interesting for me this past week. On Facebook Marketplace, I bought a new piano.

56:04Jason DeFillippo:I bought a digital piano, a broken digital piano. It's a Kurzweil digital piano. It's older. It's probably 15 years old. It does not work. I paid very little money for it. but uh i thought you know i like to have projects right so here we go here we go right yeah if only there were a radio shack around so you could well get the parts okay stay with me here my friends stay with me so i thought i could uh come at this and perhaps get it working right Yeah. So sure enough, I get it. It's in good shape. Bring it back, bring it to the office, plug it in. Very little happens. Nothing lights up. See a little bit of activity on the LCD screen.

56:52Jason DeFillippo:Start taking it apart. And it struck me. I said, hold on. What if I ask my new best friend, ChatGPT, about this? Could it help me fix this? So I said, hey, ChatGPT. My wife and I, by the way, have come to refer to Chet GPT as our friend Chet. So whenever we're talking about something, we were like, well, why don't you ask Chet? Or I asked Chet. Chet said this. So anyway, I asked Chet. I said, this is the model number I have. These are the symptoms it's displaying. Is there anything you can do to help? And it replied and it said, oh, yes, absolutely. I've fixed many of these. I'm like, okay, with what hands?

57:34Jason DeFillippo:But all right, fine. and it says, okay, I'm going to look up, see if I can find a service manual. Nope, wasn't able to find a service manual, but I found service manuals for some of the products that are similar to that one and that should get us going. It says, do you have an oscilloscope or a multimeter? Like, what tools do you have available? And I said, I do not have an oscilloscope, but I do have a multimeters. Great. We can work with that. It says to me, and this is the part that blew my mind. It says, can you upload a photograph of the power supply board, both front and back, so I can reverse engineer it?

58:15Okay.

58:16Jason DeFillippo:Okay. I said, okay. So I did that and uploaded it. And it said, ah, okay, terrific. I see what's going on here. And it basically told me how this thing works. It says, all right, based on what we're seeing here, I've narrowed it down to these three potential most likely problems. So here's what I want you to do. Over on this part of the board, there's a bridge rectifier. I want you to take your meter and I want you to measure what's on these two pins and tell me what you see. Like, okay, I measure it like six volts AC. Ah, okay, it should be getting 12 volts AC. That tells us a lot. And we go through this process of elimination where it's asking me to take measurements around the board.

58:56Jason DeFillippo:It's telling me what it thinks might be the problem. It's narrowing things down. It's ruling things out. It's giving me lists of the potential of each thing being the actual problem. and then at the end, after, I don't know, a couple of days of just kind of playing with this in my free time, it gives me a parts list. It's like, okay, here's what I want you to buy. These are probably the things that are going to fix this. So I have a bridge rectifier and a couple of capacitors on their way from Amazon.

59:29Brian Schulmeister:Did it ask you to buy a banana to stick in your ear too? Just because, you know, it does hallucinate every now and again.

59:34Jason DeFillippo:Yes, yes. Well, so the thing is - I can't wait for Chet to say, game over, dude. Yeah.

59:40Brian Schulmeister:Thanks for letting me out, Dave. Right. Yeah.

59:44Jason DeFillippo:Or you picture me slumped over the keyboard having been electrocuted. One down.

59:52Brian Schulmeister:Right.

59:53Jason DeFillippo:But so it's not fixed yet. But I was really kind of blown away at the part where it asked me to upload photos of the printed circuit board. Right. I could reverse engineer them. And it seemed to know what it was doing. Like it was figured out how this thing works. So, oh, another thing, at one point it asked me to take close-up photos of some of the components so it knew what they were. It was like, oh, okay, that's a 5-volt voltage regulator and that's a 12-volt voltage regulator. Do me a favor to check the pins on that and see what it's reading. It's like, oh, okay, we shouldn't be doing that.

1:00:33Jason DeFillippo:It's just it's as if I have a mentor sitting over my shoulder. That could be wrong. Helping walk me through this. That could be wrong.

1:00:43Brian Schulmeister:Statistically is wrong 12 % of the time.

1:00:45Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. But, you know, I have very little to lose. I've gotten my money's worth already, even if this doesn't end up working. but again i was just really pleasantly surprised and a little blown away at the degree to which chat gpt engaged and was actually able to do it so in a meaningful way good thing you didn't use a grok it would have asked you to upload completely different pictures right right exactly yeah yeah i mean that's that's interesting i mean that does sound like a fun project and certainly i'm always hesitant because of the hallucinations and how often these things can be wrong but it's certainly a more engaging and interesting process than trying to say you know drag find out find a manual from somewhere like some kurzweil archives like going into the way back machine and kurzweil site because this is what we would have had to do you know 20 years ago 15 years ago and uh and trying to go from there and and not really knowing still like, OK, I've got a schematic.

1:01:54Jason DeFillippo:Now what? And for someone like me who had I would say I have an above average knowledge base of basic electronics and I'm pretty fearless when it comes to things like soldering and, you know, all those sorts of things. But I can only go so far looking at a circuit board or, you know, a diagram or anything like that. So the other thing, I was talking to one of my co-workers about this and and she said, well, this strikes me as being exactly the kind of thing that chat GPT should be good at. Yeah, because it's very methodical. It's very it's data driven, you know. Yeah. And it is it is, you know, it's electronics.

1:02:35Jason DeFillippo:It is literally like, you know, follow the lead. Where's the power? What's it? Right. And there's tons of information about this kind of troubleshooting online. Yes. So. All right. I look forward to updates 10 years from now when you, when you hit that key the first time and it plays something. Yeah. Stay tuned. We'll see. I don't know. It could all be for naught, but if nothing else, I'm having fun and, uh, you know, buying parts and soldering and desoldering and.

1:03:04Brian Schulmeister:Yeah. It's cheaper than a movie and you only killed like, you know, a couple of wetlands in the process. So it's all good.

1:03:10Jason DeFillippo:Yeah. There's somewhere else. So yeah. Yeah. Not, not my, not my wetland. Yeah. Right.

1:03:19Brian Schulmeister:That is very cool. I've been trying to get into learning basic electronics. So if you have any tips on where to start, I would be appreciative. Anybody that's listening to – I want to start with, you know, physical stuff. I want to get like a kit that's like a basic electronics kit. Oh, there's so many of those.

1:03:36Jason DeFillippo:I'm looking into one for my kid right now too.

1:03:38Brian Schulmeister:Oh, well, then send it to me when you find it because I'm at your kid's level.

1:03:41Jason DeFillippo:get yourself get yourself a classic radio shack 150 in one kit or 201 kit uh that's how i learned basic electronics when i was a teenager you can still find them i saw one recently on marketplace near me they're on ebay they may still even be making them but i had one when i was a kid and i just never got into it that's but now now i'm excited to yeah yeah but they're step by step you know they start off with just a basic circuit and then by the end you know you're using little integrated circuits and making little radios and all kinds of complex things. And so for me, that was a really good way to learn basic electronics and what all the different things do.

1:04:21Jason DeFillippo:The other fun thing about it is it encourages experimentation. Like, you know, oh, I'm using this rating capacitor. What if I used a bigger one or a smaller one? How will that affect how things work or don't? Yeah. Yeah. There is actually, I don't know if they would do this anymore there was actually a circuit in the 150 in one kit that was a voltage amplifier and the way you tested it was you held on to these two leads and it because it was it was charging up capacitors and then using a relay to discharge them so you would uh hold on to these two leads and you'd be like yeah i guarantee you they're not manufacturing that anymore.

1:05:03Jason DeFillippo:Well, the first thing I did was up to the voltage, increase of the capacitors, called my little brother in the room, said, hey, Chris, hold on to these.

1:05:15Jason DeFillippo:It's that Simpsons episode where they all shock each other. So if you can find a vintage one, hopefully that circuit's still in there.

1:05:25Brian Schulmeister:All right. Well, thank you very much. I'm going to go on the hunt. Excellent. All right. All right. So until we find you in the hall again next time, Dave. That's right. That's right. All right. I'm going to go spend all my money. Bye. Over at Patreon, we've got some new subscribers, Ms. BGK18 and Donovan. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you guys very, very much. Thank you. We'd also like to thank Mish, Jacobo, Bart, Harlow, M, Greenow, Steve, Kevin, Jeremy, and Luigi.

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1:05:59Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, that just sounds like a company from the 80s.

1:06:02Jason DeFillippo:We are online computers here to sell you a computer that is online. It absolutely does. I know we've had that donation from this account before, so I am very curious. Online computers, computer, doing my Scotty computer. If you're out there, let us know what you are. I'm curious.

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1:06:29Jason DeFillippo:She's not the only one that got some new merch.

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1:07:21Jason DeFillippo:It's very cool. It's very, very cool. I already got some compliments on it wearing it out yesterday.

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1:09:06Brian Schulmeister:So, yay.

1:09:07Jason DeFillippo:Yay. You can do it. Got some sad news. Dave Kendall, creator and former host of MTV's 120 Minutes, has died. The British-born Kendall conceived 120 Minutes after joining MTV as a producer, pitching the network a dedicated program for the punk post-punk goth said pump said pop ska and other sounds largely ignored by corporate rock radio i lived and breathed 120 minutes it debuted on march 10th 1986 and kendall later served its host from 1989 through 1992 in the years following his departure from mtv kendall continued working as a television host and producer while frequently performing as a dj he later hosted a show on sirius xm's first wave which i also listened to and served as a correspondent for the Bangkok Post in Thailand, where he lived during the latter parts of his life.

1:09:53Now, having watched White Lotus,

1:09:56Jason DeFillippo:I do get a little concerned when I see older white people moving to Thailand, but I'm sure Dave was a stand-up guy because 120 minutes was bee's knees.

1:10:07Brian Schulmeister:I can't find anywhere how old he was, though.

1:10:09Jason DeFillippo:I can't either or cause of death, but this was just announced yesterday, so I'm sure we'll hear something. Maybe. Who knows? whatever uh and uh and kind of somewhat even bigger news for my childhood sam neil the jurassic park star has died at age 78 he was best known for his role in 1993's jurassic park as alan grant the film's hero he also had starring roles in the hunt for red october i know a personal favorite of yours jason and the piano and also appeared in tv shows like the tutors and peaky blinders in a statement shared on instagram on monday july 13th the actress family said that his death was sudden and unexpected.

1:10:45Jason DeFillippo:So, sad news. Yeah, this one hit me hard.

1:10:47Brian Schulmeister:I love Sam Neill. And don't forget, he was the Antichrist in The Omen 2 and 3. That's true. Or The Omen. I don't know if he made it to 3. I can't remember. It's been a long time. 3 was kind of a money grab crap

1:10:59Jason DeFillippo:from what I recall.

1:11:01Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it's hard to remember. Hard to remember. But The Omen, he was the president of the United States as the Antichrist in The Omen. But also, if you've never seen the movie, The Dish, which is a delightful movie from New Zealand. And he starred in that. And it's one of the greatest movies you've never heard of. It's about the satellite dish down there that really helped like a space mission because they were trying to track this thing around the Earth and the moon. I think I saw this. It was a great movie. I'm pretty sure I saw this when it came out.

1:11:37Jason DeFillippo:It is ringing a bell, but I look at like the artwork. No clue.

1:11:42Brian Schulmeister:Yeah, it was about the Apollo moon landing, and it's really cool. I highly recommend it. If you can find it, I highly recommend it. Cool. Until next time, I'm Brian Schulmeister. And I'm Jason DeFilippo. Thanks for listening to Grumpy Old Geeks. Get all the links and goodies from today's episode at GOG.show slash 755. Want to keep the grumpiness alive? Cost a few bucks our way at GOG.show slash donate. Every penny keeps the show on the air. Trust me about that. Love the show? Share it. We love your word of mouth. There's a share button in your podcast player. Use it. Spread the grumpiness to friends, foes, and everyone in between, and we'll love you for it.

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