Episode 405: Tali Edut: Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters

10 Dec 2024 · 1 h 9 min

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Habits and Hustle Podcast Episode 405: Tali Edut - Using Astrology for Career Success and Work Styles + Why Your Moon Sign Matters

Episode Overview In this enlightening episode of "Habits and Hustle," host Jennifer Cohen interviews Tali Edut, one half of the renowned Astro Twins. Tali discusses how astrology can be leveraged to understand work styles, productivity patterns, and even predict future trends. The conversation delves deep into the significance of astrological charts, particularly focusing on the importance of moon signs alongside sun signs.

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Key Discussion Points

Introduction to Astrology

  • Definition: Astrology is described as a snapshot of planetary positions at the time of one’s birth, revealing personality traits and tendencies.
  • Main Components:
  • Sun Sign: Represents the essence of one’s personality.
  • Moon Sign: Reflects one's inner self and emotional core.
  • Other Planetary Signs: Each planet in one’s chart corresponds to different life aspects (e.g., communication, love).

The "I AM" System

  • Framework: The Astro Twins introduced the "I AM" system which categorizes individuals based on their astrological chart into three archetypes:
  • Innovators (I): Creative, dynamic, and adaptable (cardinal signs).
  • Authorities (A): Traditional and dependable (fixed signs).
  • Mavens (M): Versatile and social (mutable signs).
  • Purpose: This system helps in identifying personal strengths and optimizing work styles for productivity.

Astrology and Work Styles

  • Work Preferences: Each archetype prefers different work environments:
  • Innovators thrive in dynamic settings.
  • Authorities prefer structured environments.
  • Mavens balance various roles and may be more socially inclined.

Planetary Predictions

  • Future Trends: Tali discusses predictions based on planetary movements:
  • Housing Market in 2025: Speculation that the market may see a resurgence post-June 2025, coinciding with changes in interest rates and a favorable Jupiter position in Cancer.
  • Technological Innovations: Potential for groundbreaking technology to emerge, which could help address climate change.

Astrological Insights on Public Figures

  • Tali shares anecdotes of well-known personalities and how their astrological charts align with their public personas.
  • Discussion includes insights from readings done for celebrities like Beyoncé and the significance of their astrological placements.

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Key Takeaways

  • Understanding Your Chart: Knowing all aspects of one’s astrological chart (sun, moon, and other planetary positions) provides a more holistic view of personality and behavior.
  • Astrology in Decision Making: The "I AM" system can guide individuals in making decisions and optimizing productivity by aligning with their natural tendencies.
  • Trends and Predictions: Astrology can forecast societal trends, such as the potential rise of eco-conscious innovations and shifts in economic conditions.

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Resources Mentioned

  • Books: *The Astrology Advantage* and *Astrology Guide to 2024* by Tali Edut and Ophira Edut.
  • Websites: [AstroStyle](https://astrostyle.com/)
  • Instagram: [@astrotwins](https://www.instagram.com/astrotwins/)

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Conclusion This episode offers a unique perspective on how astrology can be a practical tool for understanding oneself and navigating aspects of life, especially in the realm of career and productivity. Tali Edut's insights provide a refreshing take on astrology, making it relevant and applicable for personal growth and decision-making.

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0:01Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. All right, you guys, you're in for a treat. This is going to be a really fun podcast. Today we have one of the Astro Twins. Her name is Tali Adut. Yes. Is that how you say it? It is. All right. And Tali is a celebrity astrologer. Astrologist, is that what you say? Astrologer, I like. You could say either, you know, yeah. All right. She's worked with Beyonce. She's worked with Dua Lipa. Who else have you worked with? Alicia Keys. we did a reading for, Carly Kloss, Emma Roberts. A lot of ladies. A lot of girls. Yeah. Astrology is its own, I hate the term, but girl math, you know?

0:46Yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of is, though. Girls, all the girls I know love astrology, including me. Oh, great. Including me. And so what's interesting about Tali is that she does this with her twin sister. That's why they're called the Astro Twins. and the book is called, their new book is called The Astrology Advantage. And, you know, they also did my chart, but we're going to learn so many things in this book. This book, like I said, is super fun. I'm not someone who typically will have astrologists on the podcast, but the reason why I really wanted to speak with you is because you do talk about how astrology can be helpful in productivity, in your career, in lots of different ways, how you can apply it to make it work, which, again, I'm all about taking something and using it for actionable purposes versus just yammering on and just talking about it.

1:39So thank you for being here. I'm so excited, and thanks for giving astrology a chance. Oh, no. Listen, I like it, like I said, in my hobby, but now I'm bringing it to the podcast, which I'm excited about. So by the way, Tali from Astro Twins, she's like half of the astro, we do these shots on the podcast they're called masterminds they're called magic minds, they're delicious it's great for focus, it's great for just actually being alert productivity and it's all really clean good ingredients and we do it all the time, so we do this we open them up, shake it, shake it, shake it I've had like five today by the way I know, it's crazy but they're like all nootropics it's really good the really good ingredients cheers cheers that's awesome let's do it yum it's good right to a virgo to have like the best like yeah leave it to virgo always have like well you know they find the things that we always find things that no one else can find listen thank you this and my book together you are gonna be so damn productive oh my god i'm gonna be so productive with all your tips and tricks oh my god what else do you know oh my god it's amazing You know what?

2:51I love this because you sit here for so many hours, you know what I mean? This is really good. Oh, my God. Really good. Because the ingredients are top-notch. There's ashwagandha, there's matcha, there's turmeric. I have so many questions for you about business. I feel like we have to hang out sometime. Anytime. Yeah, okay, good. We can, anytime. Okay, now we're going to get into the podcast. So can you just say maybe in a few sentences, what is astrology? Absolutely. And literally anyone can learn it. You don't have to be a psychic to be an astrologer because there's a system to it that anyone can learn.

3:27I've actually taught it to hundreds of people at this point. Really? Because that was my next question. I was going to say, do you have to be kind of psychic? You really don't. I mean, I think we all are actually a little bit psychic and it kind of gives you that code. So what it is, is a snapshot of the planets in their orbit at any given moment in time. So if we're looking up at the sky, now we obviously we know the sun is the center of the of, you know, the our universe here. But in astrology, it says we get to look up at the sky and it's as if the sun and moon and all the planets are orbiting around us.

4:06So if we freeze frame them in their exact, you know, at any exact minute in time, you have this map. Each one will be lining up with a different zodiac sign. And then astrologers know how to interpret that. So most people know their sun sign. They know where the sun was when they were born. I know you're a Virgo, I'm a Sagittarius, but we also have a moon sign, Mercury, and, you know, Venus, Mars, and each one is like in charge of a different area of your life. Really? Yeah. So why do we all focus then on the sun sign? Well, the sun really is the essence of your personality. And it's trackable, you know, it's based on your birthday during the same time every year, you know.

4:54But I don't know. I think that that's just where modern astrology has taken us. But the Greeks, the Egyptians, even back to the Babylonians, they looked at everything. Where was the moon? Where was Mercury? And it's really unique. Interesting. So then if we don't have, okay, so you're saying because it's the essence of our personality is in the sun sign. Okay. But then in terms of the moon and all the other pieces, do we not really get a clear, decisive indication if we don't know all the other pieces? Like, it really does round out the picture. So that's how I got obsessed with astrology. This was not my intended career.

5:35I went to the University of Michigan. I studied art and journalism. Get out. Yeah. Okay, so you went to college for, like, a different type of occupation. Absolutely. It was like, this was like, okay, hi, Mom. I'm becoming an astrologer now. Thank God my mom's awesome and a Leo, so. Your mom's, and a rabbi, which I thought was great. Okay. So then how did you go from that to now being an astrologist? You know, yeah, or whatever. You know, it's interchangeable. While I was at the University of Michigan, I started publishing a magazine, a multicultural size positive women's magazine. It was a project that turned into an entrepreneurial life of its own.

6:21This happens to Sagittarians. We're like hobby, career. So it's part of my. But one of the things that I'm sure you could really. So the unifying language among this diverse group of us who put the magazine together was astrology. We started doing our charts. And that's when I found out that I had a Scorpio moon. And so the moon is your inner nature. And I started to learn one piece at a time. So while your sun sign really shows how you shine in the world, the moon is your private self. And that really does balance out, you know, who you who you are with your family and friends can be different than who you are out in public.

7:06So that's so interesting. So like for me being a Virgo, right? Yeah, that is so my that's my sun sign. Yeah. What would be so you're saying that who we are in our deeper inner self is our moon sign. To me, that's way more interesting and much more telling. Oh, I think so. being than what people's perception or optics are. Oh, yeah. Your moon is in Libra. Mine is? Yeah. Libra is a sign of justice, of peace, of harmony, of, you know, you really can get emotional and people are being treated unfairly or things feel unjust. It's also about beauty and, you know, so aesthetics, things like you have a good eye for things probably.

7:55I mean, not particularly, actually. Not for my own clothing, but that's besides the point. I'm not very fashion forward. But I mean, maybe you're right. What I'm good at is I can see it in somebody else, just not on myself. But emotionally, like you take good care of yourself. Yeah, I take very good care of myself. And that is kind of the Libra moon way. You do not like, you don't really like conflict, but you will get in there if you have to fight. If I have to. If you have to, but it's probably not your preference. Not my preference. Yeah. No. Is that really? So what is like a Virgo in your opinion?

8:29Virgos are an earth sign. So every sign is categorized as one of four elements, fire, earth, air, or water, and one of three modalities, cardinal, fixed, and mutable. and so you are a mute virgo is immutable which means it's very changeable and adaptable but it's an earth sign which means it's very traditional and stable so it's kind of a quirky sign to be because on the one hand you know people virgos get such a bad rap and this is the biggest lie out there that virgos are boring that i cannot think of a least of a less boring sign. But Virgos do like things to be sort of routine and disciplined.

9:13Totally. But boring, I'm not. No. But that's so interesting because most Virgos I know are not boring. No way. Beyonce's a Virgo. Yeah, she's a Virgo. Pink, you know, like Virgo. Name some famous Virgos. Well, Kobe Bryant was a Virgo. Dr. Drew is a Virgo. Who else? Prince Harry, Blake Lively, Beyonce pink oh Blake Lively and Beyonce are yeah by the way can you give us some like any kind of juicy gossip about what you found out about Beyonce or um a girl named Demetria who works with us here is obsessed with her so I'm doing this that's a question for her more than for me to be honest but you're welcome Demetria she'll take tomorrow's birthday oh is it birthday yeah so I mean she was really she was really cool I mean she's she is as nice as she appears to be.

10:06She had no attitude, no, she's just like present and real. And when we did the reading for her, it was a long time ago when she first started dating Jay-Z and we were doing readings at the Billboard Music Awards. And I was like, hey, do you want a chart for you know who too? Because you can do a relationship chart. Oh, okay. When you put both side by side and you can actually blend the two charts together to find a relationships whole chart as well that's another that's i know it's fascinating it is fascinating so she yeah she and she came back we saw her the next day she's like i stayed up all night reading this and because she's a virgo she's a virgo exactly that's what you do that's right that's what we do okay so let's talk about a couple things let's start with the archetypes of of these signs like there's you said there's three So every zodiac sign is either fire, earth, air, and water.

11:06Right. So the fire signs, should I go through them? Yeah. Okay, fire signs are Aries, Leo, and Sagittarius. Okay. So very creative, impulsive, dynamic, you know, the big idea people. And then we have the earth signs, which are Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn. And those signs are more traditional, structured, stabilizing. They like things to go according to plan. And they're the ones you can depend on, too, for things. Then we have the air signs, so kind of the social butterflies. That's Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius. And then lastly, the very emo water signs, Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces. They're the nurturers, the powders.

11:50is the, you know, they're, so then there's a second way that we group them, which are cardinal. Those are the signs that start each season. So that is why we wrote this, and I'll get, our book is kind of all about these groupings. So the cardinal signs are Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn. These start every season, and thus they are, they have that quality about them. People born under those signs or who have those signs in their chart will be the ones who just get out there. We call them the innovators. We've given them new names. Okay. So this is the I am, right? Yes. This is the I am system.

12:27Okay. This is the I am system. Okay. So I is the innovator. Go on. Yeah. That's someone who has mostly cardinal signs. I have that in my chart. So I've started a business since I used to crush up rose petals and try to sell perfume in Michigan to the neighbors. Really? I was like, what was I thinking? That's great. I love that. Uh-huh. And then the fixed, people have mostly fixed signs. These are the mid-season signs, Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, and Aquarius. They're the planners, the traditionalists. We call them the authorities. They're the ones who wind up becoming an expert on things. And in fact, that's your archetype, the authority.

13:05Oh, wow. So I'm an A. I'm an authority. You're an A. You're an authority, and very much so. Yeah. Really? You're an earth authority. Based on... Okay, so wait, let me get this straight, because this can be a little complicated. Sure, I know. Okay, there's a lot of things. We just dove right in. Well, no, because, yeah, because why not, right? Why not? That's what we do. So it's the, you created this thing called the I AM system. And it's, I stands for innovator, A stands for authority. Authority. And M stands for the maven. And that's someone with mostly mutable signs on their chart. Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, and Pisces.

13:41They're the ones who wear a lot of hats. These are the signs that end every season. They're kind of the ambassadors, the messengers. They can go back and forth between two worlds, three worlds. But you said, I'm an authority. You are an authority. But then it says, you said, I'm also a maven? No, no, you're not a maven. I'm not a maven. Yeah. Because it says here, in the innovators. Well, okay, Virgo is a maven sign. But the way we calculate the I am is by taking your whole chart. We take your sun sign, your moon sign. Got it. Yes. All the planets from Mercury through Pluto and a couple other points, the rising sun and the nodes.

14:20So 13 points in your chart. And we kind of put them in a blender so that we can really distill the essence of your entire chart. Like, I'd like to say astrology has a marketing problem, you know? Yes, yes, yes. It's like everyone loves it, but they don't have time to learn it. It's complicated. That's the problem. That's why it's complicated. there's a lot of information, so it seems like it's complicated. Like you just said, well, yeah, you're a Virgo because that's your sun sign, but really you're a Libra moon sign. And then this, so like, it's like, I can tell you, so just to, you know, you, you have Mercury in Virgo.

14:58Okay, wait, let's start with this. Okay. I think that's how we're going to do it. So people are not going to be like, totally feel like they're like, I know. Let's start with my chart. Let's go through all of it and then we can like figure it out so go with the yeah so start with the okay so your sun sign is in virgo that's the essence of who you are okay and your main character energy so how you present in the world virgos are disciplined they're organized they're thoughtful full of advice always you know right very much they're achievers for sure okay i can i can go with that. Yeah. All right.

15:33And then, like we said, your moon is in Libra. So you're actually romantic, too, at heart. Very much a, you know, a relationship girly, as they say. You like things to be even-keeled, peaceful. Now, Mercury is the planet that's the messenger. It's our communication style, which you have in Virgo. So you need things to be precise. You need them to be exact. You want to know, prove it, very factual mind. You have an organized mind, probably, too. But the funny thing is I'm very disorganized. Maybe, but when it comes to, like, do you like to categorize things? See, I guess I feel like I'm super disorganized.

16:17I don't have a lot of, like, administratively I'm very disorganized, but I'm very meticulous in how things should be done, like routine, regimen, schedule, stuff like that. And that's where Mercury comes in. It's like the data planet. And you're a great interviewer. And so I think Mercury and Virgo knows how to ask good questions. You're very inquisitive. Because we're curious, probably. Yeah, totally. And wanting to know, wanting to put the puzzle together, probably. Yeah, exactly. Now, Venus and Mars are fun because these are the love planets. Venus is kind of how you like to be wooed. and Mars is like what you're attracted to.

16:56What am I attracted to? Well, so your Venus is in Leo and your Mars is in Virgo. So you actually, that's an interesting dynamic because you want to be romanced. You want fun and play and you want to feel like the queen, but you also like someone who's hardworking, maybe a little quieter and simpler. So it's like you have to find someone who knows how to, I just remember when I was on J-Date years ago, They'd be like, someone who looks as good in a ball gown as she does in sweats. Someone who looks as good in running gear as he does in a tux or something. Right. You need both. But who doesn't want that?

17:36I don't know. I mean, who doesn't want a guy who can diversify like that? Yeah, but you don't just want that. You need that. So I like diversification, so to speak. Somebody who can dress up and go and be, you know, just someone who, like, really knows how to give gifts, but also when it's time to hunker down and be practical. Totally. I like practical for sure. But you're saying that, does that say that I like Leos and what's the other one? I mean, not necessarily. Venus and Leo also means that, you know, Venus and Leo is like how you dress, how you take care of yourself. So there's a glam side to you, too, even if you are sporty.

18:15A little bit. I mean. I mean, your hair is done. You got your little. Yeah, exactly. I have, like, my nails always have to be on point. Totally. I do like my hair done. Yes. But even though I wear, like, yeah. I'm casual. I'm casual. Casual glam. Casual glam. That's a good way. Because Mars and Virgo also shows, like, Venus is the feminine and Mars is the masculine, if you want to get archetypal about it. And so we all have both in us. So Mars is also the way you motivate and move through the world. So your work ethic is, like, crazy, probably, on point. Yes, my work ethic is, I feel like. Yeah, Mars and Virgo, people are probably like, how do you get so much done?

18:52Yeah. But wait, Mars is also like what you need in a man. It doesn't mean you need to be with a Virgo, but you need to be with someone who has their stuff together, is also very disciplined themselves. So my best sign would be Virgo? You know, it's just the qualities. It doesn't, there's any sign, because there's so much in everybody that it's hard to just say. Because people always say like Virgo does well with Capricorn. So it's another Earth sign or a Taurus. Taurus, right? Right. That's a very simplistic way of putting it. I really do think any two signs can make it work. Sometimes the weird matches are like Virgo and Aquarius can be good together.

19:37Really? And no one ever sees that. Yeah. Why? Both are like when you're five signs apart from another sign, there's like the distance between two signs is also creates the chemistry and the tension. Almost like are you standing next to each other in an elevator? Are you standing across the room? So sometimes people do well with a partner who is so different than them that they're never bored. And astrology can actually show you that, too. That's interesting. I always believe that people who have more in common with each other do better together compatibility wise. And that's kind of like a myth, urban legend or myth that opposites attract.

20:14I don't believe that. Well, you have a Libra moon. So your moon, your emotional energy likes Pete. You don't want that. You just want to be easy and relaxed and flow. So you can just be who you are, you know, and not. Yeah. But someone with an Aries moon may like somebody who's more of a challenge. Yeah, I get that. I was like in my younger days, perhaps, I guess. All right. All right, so what else does it say? Well, the outer planets from there are more about how you are in the world. So Jupiter, which is the planet of luck and expansion, is in Aquarius for you. So that's very sporty. Aquarius is a sign of the humanitarian, too.

20:56So that's a big deal. It also rules technology. So you probably do really well on YouTube and things like that. YouTube, I do terrible. Really? Instagram, I do well. Oh, Instagram. Okay, social media. I do well. And so TikTok, I mean, I do well in Instagram. I mean, I don't know. How about TV in general? I had a weight loss show for a bit. And then, yeah, I used to do a lot of TV. And now I do a little bit. TV would be good for Jupiter and Aquarius. Really? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Why? Aquarius is, it's a sign that rules electronics, the internet, you know, TV. Okay. Every sign has its own domain. I know astrologers have, we have neatly categorized every area of life among these 12 signs.

21:39Once you learn it, and there's a progression. It is, but it isn't. Because there's a progression from Aries, the first sign, which is like the baby of the Zodiac, to Pisces, the last sign, which is kind of the elder. So it really goes and builds one to the next to the next. And it has a flow that anyone can learn. It just seems like I want to know based on my signs more than anything, what would be best for my career, tips for productivity? I want to know how all my stuff actually could, can it help me truly be better or optimize an area where I'm deficient in because I'm not using this chart properly?

22:28A thousand percent. And that's why we should move towards your authority because you're I am. So like taking all these things apart one at a time, we don't live like that. I'm not like, now I am emotional. What does my moon say? I mean, you will be expressing all these traits at the same time. And so that's why I love what we did in the Astrology Advantage, which allows you to use them all kind of at once. It kind of takes the law of averages. It averages out your chart so you can really distill the essence. So when I look at your chart, you have two fire signs, so of these 13 placements. Two are fire, five are earth, three are air, and three are water.

23:19So earth is really the most prevalent element in your chart. Oh, that's interesting now. Okay. And you're lower on fire, so sometimes being creative might be a little harder for you. You want to know, it's not that you're not creative, but not so much artsy. You're more of a, I'm not artsy at all. Like I'll always say like, they're like, oh, do you want to go see this? Do you want to go to this art gallery or this open? I'm like, no, I have no, listen, if you go and look at my house, my nine-year-old does all my paintings and I'm perfectly happy with it. Art is not my favorite thing. That's for sure.

23:55As an art schooler, I, you know, I understand that sometimes I am not athletic at all. And I really wish I was. It's like, right, but it's like part of like who are, it's our, it's our, what we naturally are gravitate to. Yeah, exactly. And so for you with Earth, it's family, it's tradition, it's a sense of comfort and security that you really like more than anything. Stability, you know, Earth is also really good with money, good with business. Now, when it comes to the I am, you have three innovator placements, six authority, and four mavens. So you have a bit of all of them, but the most prevalent one is authority.

24:38So the authorities are really also the traditionalists. So you're an earth authority and we call you the provider. So a dutiful, dependable person who takes a practical approach to life, acting as a frugal steward of their resources. Oh, my God. I sound so boring. I'm so lame. Oh, my God. Okay. That's hilarious. But you're not. You're the provider, right? I might. I don't think so. I mean, no. I don't know. Maybe I am. Maybe you are. In what way? Well, if we actually, if I were to distill your entire chart into one zodiac sign, which the Earth authority sign is actually Taurus. So if we could put your chart in a blender, even though you're a Virgo, like if we put it all together, you would be, the energy of Taurus is sensual but sensible, I say.

25:36Yes. That would be a perfect way to describe. Okay, I like this. I think I'm more Taurus. Tell me what other things that Taurus are. They love to be home. They love to be around family. They don't like change all that much. They're actually habits and hustle. Might as well say Taurus because it's this hardworking, devoted energy. Habits are what Taurus loves. It's like, give me the same thing over and over again. eat the same thing. Oh, that's so funny. Right? So really, I'm more of a Taurus than I am a Virgo. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of funny, but yes, at essence, when you use your whole chart, I mean, you're both, obviously, but that Taurus energy is really where your superpower is.

26:25That's interesting. I bet you, then, from what it sounds like, a lot of people may think they're one sign, but actually be a totally different sign if they actually did their chart properly. Yeah, we have a calculator on our website. Yeah, tell us how this works. AstroStyle.com slash I am. Very easy, I am. And you just put in your time, date, and place of birth. If you don't know your time, it might be off. One of the numbers might be off by one, but it's close enough. And then you get this archetype, and you don't need to know about the elements. You can just go with your innovator, authority, and maven.

27:01And in the book, we have so many practical tips how to use that for every aspect of your life. And we've done like coaching groups. We've worked with hundreds of people. We've spoken to, you know, we've worked with teams at companies and really applied this. Like how? Give me an example how you can apply it, like for productivity. So every one of the I am's has a specific way that they like to work. And they each have a time zone that they're in. So the innovators are the futurists. We'll turn every space into a satellite office. We need to move around. We need a lot of variety. We have to pick up and go.

27:40The authority has what we call the command station. They want their work in one place, close the door, and then relax over here. They don't like to blend everything together. Really? Yeah. Do you work like that? See, I don't know. My situation is I'm kind of like a lot of what you're saying does relate to me. However, I'm also like all over the place. I'm like, like I'm very much a visionary person, not so much of an operator, which is interesting in terms of like, like you're like having everything like kind of organized and scheduled and documented. and like I'm like I'm just a squirrel like I'm here then that that's over here like I'm very so a lot of the Virgo-y things don't really apply to me but then I am practical I am sensible I am I have like both I have a lot of like like yin and yang yeah Virgos actually are like squirrely you're mutable Virgo is a mutable sign so Virgos are collectors they're like I've got this i got this now i got you know oh really curators who find all the things like they'll just get like 10 face creams to try or 10 yes that's what i do and none of them work but that's i know isn't it they're all the same they go to the drug store and you're like damn it exactly okay so tell us how we can be more productive while i look for the other question i have absolutely you can set up your you can own who you are so authorities will go hard they'll work and then they need to which clock out at the end of the day.

29:15Innovators need to like work and then take a break, work and then take a break. The mavens are always wearing a lot of different hats and they can get socially distracted too, but they're great at like social media and being with people. It's kind of like designing a life around your strengths is how you can use astrology. Like we can, you can be in any field, but as an authority, you know, you still need things to be regimented a certain way. Yeah. Whereas a maven can drop them anywhere and they're like, I'm just going to go with the flow with what everyone else is doing. That makes sense. So how about this?

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29:55You say in the book, adults make over 35 ,000 decisions a day. So how does this I am system help on a daily basis with decision making. Yeah. It's really answers the question like, which path will be the most efficient and effective for me? Because at any time we can, we don't always have to do what our astrology tells us to, you know? Right, right, right. Although, you know, it's probably, you know, so if you want to optimize your decisions or even get like a reflect, like in love, the innovator becomes the idealist the authority becomes the attacher and the maven becomes the mirror they want someone who's always like okay i said this you said that like understanding the other people in your life is also helpful like totally as an authority you're an attacher in relationships you want to know are they in or out you're not probably a great dater you're not like a play around kind of person.

30:54Me? Yeah. Opposite. Exactly. No, no, no. Opposite. Like I am a great dater. That's what I do very well. Oh, really? Yes. That's what I'm saying. A lot of these things do not apply. But when you, what makes you a great dater? I had a lot of, I mean, Mary now, but I mean, I had a lot of boyfriends and a lot of dating. I mean, I was just saying last podcast I have so many I I'm very social in that way so I have a lot of people I deal date and friends and but did you have a system for how you dated no no you just went with it I will not went with it I mean I had a particular kind of guy I would go out with I was very focused on having a guy that was you know what girls like I want someone who's successful and tall and cute and whatever and fit like all the same things that any girl wants but then i even had a i put together like i created a a charity for breast cancer where i would auction off all these eligible bachelors because um i had so many i literally had so many guys that i knew so there's your venus and leah queen of dating that's why it doesn't make sense because i literally in fact little side note lance armstrong um had his virgo he's a virgo yeah oh it's so funny so he did this he was one of my one year of my babes for boobs which is the charity auction i do he was my host or like we kind of gave him an award for raising so much money for overall cancer and you know and so like we did they they were they did a 30 30 for him and i was in the 30 for 30 like kind of like showing everybody all the dating stuff like and it just came out like recently so everyone's stopping me like oh my god you were just in this thing but the point is that yeah i have like that to me is not an area that was i am a dater and i know that's so that doesn't really match but you're you're a successful dater yes that's a test so i will is that a difference and look at you're still friends with all the guys right i am so they're not all of them there's some who don't like me very much.

32:58I can name a few. Good for a high five, sister. But with that being said, so what makes somebody a successful dater versus not? I don't know. Just like, I was a terrible dater. Oh my God. It was like, I just be like, so I hated it. I was so anxious. Well, as an innovator, the idealist, it's like, is he the one? Is he the one? Is he, you know, I'd always started to make everyone into the wand and that was my my worst oh interesting traits in dating I'd say how long have you been married you said 15 15 years yeah how old are you uh 51 so you got married when you were 36 yep okay good math and yeah at Virgo right that's a calculator yeah so let me how accurate is all this information honestly you know I don't know it's really Sometimes it doesn't fit for people, but then what it can be used for in cases like that is an interesting reflection.

33:58Like I always say, oh, take it or leave it. It's a gift that we have from the ancients. You don't have to live your life by it. You know, there's sometimes we're always evolving. We're always changing. But it's such an interesting thing to have. Like, okay. Like, when I found out I have Mars and Venus and Scorpio, I was like, well, I better, you know, run up a little bit more. Right, right, right, right. I find that there's a lot of confusion, right? Because I think there's astrology, there's tarot cards, there's all the things. Mm-hmm. Like, what do you get from astrology that you don't get from tarot cards or vice versa?

34:36Yeah, astrology is a system. It's really, it's like, it's very specific. The time of birth is going to plug you into the sky. It's backed up by NASA data. Yeah, it's true. The moon was in the Libra part of the sky. Like, NASA will tell you that, you know, when you were born. Tarot is more interpretive. It's like a divination where it's like, I'm pulling this card and I see the high priestess and now I'm going to interpret what that means. It's much more of a psychic thing. It's more of an interpretation. It's interpretive. But this is more data-based. Yeah, it is literal. It's math plus myth. There's not really math with tarot as much, although there is within the archetypes when you learn them.

35:20So astrology is more, it's more, it's data-based. It is. Yeah, it's data-based and there's like scientific math behind it. There's math, like the angles, like you can get really nerdy. You can get super, super. The sun is opposite your moon. During the full moon, the sun and moon are opposite signs. Like you start to learn the angles. You want to teach women to love math, just teach them how to read birth charts because we apply it. We're relationship oriented. It's so true. Self-knowledge oriented. I know. It's amazing. And so tarot cards are much more interpretive. Then, okay, how has astrology changed in today's time versus when you first started in the early 2000s?

36:04Oh my God. I actually started in the 90s. In the 90s even. And it was my sister's college boyfriend, Calvin, gave her a chart like this with a 30-page booklet describing every planet and all the angles between them. And, of course, I wanted to read it because we're twins. So I was like, give me that. And I was like, how the hell does this thing know so much about me? I was fascinated. And so I started, weird things started happening. Like we got this piece of software and we started doing our friends charts. I just wanted to know why and how it worked because I'm, you know, skeptic too. I was like, how on earth?

36:47And I think people should be skeptical because it has not yet been proven. But like when you think about what science is, it's like you're studying, you're looking at a data pool and you're drawing conclusions. Totally. Yeah, it makes sense to me. Yeah. So that's what astrology, that's what it is at this point. But has it changed and evolved since then? You know, it's just become more accessible because of apps. Snapchat, you can do your whole birth chart. There's an app called CoStar that lets you find all your friends' charts and match yourselves up. There's also these apps. What was the one that I liked?

37:24What's it called? The Pattern. The Pattern. How did you know? I know people love that app. Because you know why? it's like that's one that I would open and like it says things and I'm like oh my god that's like so to the like to the t me oh it's so good and it is just astrology it just doesn't tell you why see for me I'm like where do they get that oh that's sadder yeah well that's right how are they able to do that though for an app but you don't have an app do you I do have an app but yeah I'm still working on developing it because I it's there's so many apps out there I'm like Oh, my God. I have a web.

37:59My website is very robust. It is? Yeah. AstroStyle.com. How do these apps even generate all this information? It's really easy. The moon changes signs every two and a half days, but all the other planets— And they can just take that? I could get the NASA data at any point. It's out there. It's called an ephemeris. It's like Benjamin Franklin even used to write them. Really? He's an astrologer. Yeah. He was? He was. Yep. Yeah. All the founding fathers were like secret astrologers. So I guess it can also help with like hiring, right? Because if you are good at reading these charts and understanding, you can say, OK, this person doesn't seem like they listen, like it's not like an exact science, but it's at least better than nothing.

38:49And you can say, this is telling me this person is going to could be a good leader. This person would make a great, you know worker be or this person will be a great operator or even in terms of what you need to get the best out of like our team our two operations people are both authorities and they need to rest a lot and they need why work hard and rest hard because they're great they need like a structure like if i not rest in a lazy way at all but they need to just like not be keyed up too much authorities do not like to be stressed out or rushed at all. I see. This is another fallacy, I think.

39:29Not you. No. And most people I know who are Virgos, like Virgos are not. Yeah. No, we don't. I don't rest. I mean, I've never taken a nap in my life. That's the first thing. Okay. Let me rewind that because they're not nappers and they work. They're always ready to be on. I don't mean like a napper, but I just mean like I don't rest. My problem is I don't rest ever. And most Virgos I know are the same way. Yeah, Virgos, no. Now, we didn't talk about your past life sign, which is Scorpio. Oh, is that why, though? Yeah, the Scorpio. Okay, we did not talk about this. Right, we didn't get to the north and south nodes of the chart.

40:05Okay, well, we really have to talk about this. This is what Kabbalistic astrology, as Jews, we need to know. Yes, well, you've been, like, slacking over here. I know, what the hell? There's just so much to talk about. I just went on a ride. I know. I just thought that my moon was my Libra, my Virgo was my sun, my Venus and Leo are my relationship thing. See, look at that Virgo mind cataloging it all. Exactly. There's an astrologer in you yet. 100%. And now you're saying that I'm a Scorpio in my past life? Yeah. So the two points in the chart, the north and south nodes of the moon, these are where the eclipses.

40:47were happening, these points in the sky when you were born. And the south node, which we say is kind of what you came into this life being naturally good at or your gifts is in Scorpio. What you're moving towards, your Tikkun, your correction is Taurus. Yeah, your Tikkun is Taurus, which is funny since that is kind of the essence of your chart. So that Scorpio south node is sexy magnetic I heard your story about Keanu on your talk that you did yeah yeah my TED talk yeah yeah how you just magnetize I don't think I magnetized him I think I just harassed and and and was very bold about asking for his help yeah that was a great story but no just there's that you know really in that intensity of the Scorpio from the past life that's so true well Well, first of all, I'm super intense still, though.

41:42This is why I don't. I love it. Yes. I have a Scorpio, Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Venus. So anyone with Scorpio, I always am like, I love them. Really? I don't understand then how like I believe my I'm probably more Scorpio than I am. Yeah. We can go all over the map with it, you know. So how does anyone how are you able to really like drill in any information on how to be the most productive or how to be the most this or that? If you can read a chart and you can have in your chart Scorpio, Virgo, Taurus, because like that could be anything. You can I can see myself with like I have I have some of the Scorpio in me, which make which would tend to make me believe I should go this direction.

42:25But then I also have a lot of Taurus in me, which would make me think I should go that direction. Well, you actually don't have a lot of you don't have anything. You have your north node in Taurus is the only Taurus. I just it the Earth. Fixed Earth sign is Taurus. So that's just like if we were to put everything together and smush it together, like the core essence, like we mixed it all up would be like a Taurus flavor. But you're a Virgo. You are a Virgo. But your I am archetype is the authority. And that's going to help. Like if you want to be most productive, you should maybe try separating your office from the rest of them.

43:06You know, like a simple, you don't need a lot of stuff in your line of vision. Any kind of chaos or mess will throw you off and make it hard for you to work. That's true. Yeah, some people, mavens can be in a mess. I mean, my husband's a maven, my God. It's just like I have to close the door to a couple rooms. Yeah, I can't do that. Yeah, no. And how about an innovator? Innovators just turn everything into an office. Like my sister and I, when we're together, it's like ridiculous. It was like, let's go to, we went to the butcher's daughter or the Soho house. Like, we could not even, like, sit still for long.

43:40We drove each other crazy. So, yeah. Are you guys really close? We are, yeah. Because you're twins, right? Like, do you feel each other's energy then, for real? Oh, definitely. Really? And we have another sister, too, who's an innovator. Really? Mm-hmm. How old is she? Is she younger or older? She's five years younger, and she is a family constellation therapist. So, we're all, like, working with this, like, family constellation. What is that? It's like an ancestral trauma healing. It's like you kind of, the idea is that different, you carry trauma from generation to generation. And you do this work where you kind of, it's almost like a hypnotherapy visualization where you go back and kind of re-pattern the family conversations and lineage.

44:26I know you should talk to her. She's really interesting. That's super interesting. Yeah. Does she have a client list? Does she actually get business? Yeah, she works with a lot of different – she does, yeah, she works with people, family members come together, and they just do this healing together. Wow, it sounds very woo-woo. It is very woo-woo. Well, you know. And it's very woo-woo. What I do isn't woo-woo. It's funny, well, she's – I'm less woo-woo, even though I work in a woo-woo field. I'm very practical. You seem very practical. Yeah. So that's interesting. So that's very – she would be very interesting.

44:57How did you – I mean – But, yeah, my sister and I – that my twin, Ofi, and I are always like, I mean, not as soon as I leave our college, but how was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys are very close. Yeah. She was bummed she couldn't be here today. I know. I'm bummed I couldn't meet her. Okay. So wait, what are the other things that I, okay, so AI and all that and like CHAP, GPT and all that, how does that affect your business now? Or does it not? You know, I tried to see if CHAP, GPT could write a horoscope for me because I was like, well, that'll make my life easier. That's right. Exactly. You know?

45:30But, and, you know, it's getting better at it. I test it periodically. But you have to know what to ask it. You have to know what to direct it in. And even if I'm like, oh, please rewrite this for me, I still have to go in and polish it. But I feel like, so there's no getting, AI is here to stay. My prediction is not shocking at all. But Aquarius is the zodiac sign that rules technology, rules the future, rules progress. And Pluto is the planet. It's still a planet in astrology that is the alchemist. It's the transformer. Wherever it goes, it takes a very long time. It takes 250 years to go through all the signs.

46:15So it returned to Aquarius last year in 2023 for the first time since the 1700s. And so the last time I was in Aquarius, we got the Constitution. We got the French Revolution, the Haitian Revolution. Like, we got the U.S. Mint. And yeah, so then now it's back in Aquarius. and we have all these disruptions and all these Aquarian, like Pluto is like, this is why I can get obsessed. You can get obsessed with astrology because you can track these cycles. Like Pluto comes in and it creates this destruction, but then it like changes things. So we were in Pluto until last year. Pluto last year moved out of Capricorn and into Aquarius.

47:05So it was in, let me back up. Holy shit. Okay, this is so confusing. So we can also look, the planets are always moving. So where they are in the sky is also how astrologers make predictions. So because Pluto stays in the sign for 15 to 20 years, you can see these cycles. So we were in Pluto up until last year. We're in Pluto and Pluto is always in a sign. Pluto was in Capricorn from 2008 to 2000. And it's finishing it up like this year for a little bit. But why that's interesting is because Capricorn is a sign that rules banks, the government, the economy. 2008, we get a black president. Life, you know, historical.

47:48We get the crash and all the bank bailouts. So when Pluto changes signs, it's a big deal. So Pluto moved into Aquarius. Last year. Last year for a little bit. And then we got the Hollywood writers' strike because of AI. and like AI is very Aquarian. It's very sci-fi. So also just social justice, all the campuses and the protests and what happens, you know, like whatever your feelings are on it, it's just a hallmark of Pluto and Aquarius. It's very like, ah, all this intense stuff happening with the campus activism. Like what's, do people know what they're doing here? Do they know what they're talking?

48:31You know, so Pluto, it really messes stuff up when it changes signs. And so we're in this like, and so it was in Aquarius and then literally September 1st and moved back to Capricorn where it will be for the rest of the election. So it's finishing out. We started with Obama. I don't know who we're going to end with. It's just people are like, who would you predict is going to win? I'm like, I have no freaking idea. You don't make predictions. You know, we do, but I can't with this one. I could not even tell you. Because there's so much Aquarius and Capricorn. There's like progressive and old guard like are both like the swirl that is just like, I don't know.

49:14I just can't. I'm not picking up anything. And like this is. What predictions have you made that came true? Well, we actually predicted an assassination attempt. Of Donald Trump? We didn't say who, but in our book. And we predicted a third party candidate disrupting the election and actually predicted in July that RFK would support Trump. Really? Yeah. I have it on my Instagram on July 11th. So. Of last year? Of this year. But so it wasn't that shocking. But still, it was like people were not expecting that. So. So because he came on board to supporting Trump when? Like. Just like August 24th or something.

49:54Yeah. Six weeks in advance. Yeah. How did you figure that one out? I looked at his chart and I saw, because he's a Capricorn, I saw Pluto is going to be over his sun. And I was like, because this is where astrology gets, we can see where the planets are now versus where they are when you were born. And I was like, oh, he's got some things hidden there that he's not, I don't know. It's more of a, he was going to go where the power was or where he felt it was. And it was just like. Interesting. So do you then believe that he's not as sincere as he claims to be? Yeah, I think there's, yeah. I mean, I think that nobody really knew what was going on.

50:32Yeah. So I was blown away by that. You were. Yeah. Well, just because I'm like, wow, like this is, he was so anti. Right, right. Right. And then all of a sudden he's like, I'm promoting, like I'm supporting Trump, huh? I know that was like, it just didn't. It didn't, it was not, there was a disconnect for me. Yeah. And so as an astrologer, I mean, you know, without, I'll probably, I've probably already confused the heck out of everyone. Probably. They're probably like, are they on acid? Are they on acid? I wish. Exactly. Tell me other predictions that you've made that came true. We actually predicted a black swan event and in 2020.

51:10So we write a book every year. And with predictions, I predicted the trad wife, the trad wife trend. Do you know about that? No. The traditional, like a couple years ago, there's like this I am a traditional wife thing going on. It's like it stands for traditional wife, like these younger women who are like, I cook and I clean and I'm the perfect, you know, wifey 1950s housewife, ballerina farms kind of thing. But I saw that happening because Jupiter was going into Taurus, which is this very conservative energy. And I was like, this is going to. I look back at past historical cycles and you see these patterns.

51:52That's what's so crazy. It's like what happens repeats itself. That's why I'm like, are we all in a Sims? And I'm going to sound like I'm on acid, but whatever. I'm not. But maybe we were just all in a Sims game, you know, here on this planet, you know? So then what happened? That Trad's wife became like a whole thing? Yeah. I was like shocked. It was kind of like this backlash-y. Is it like Sepford's wives? A little bit. Or just these younger women who are kind of going back to these very like traditional housewife values. Is it still happening? It is happening still. Right now. I don't know if you've heard of Nara Smith.

52:30She's like, my husband wanted gumballs, so I decided to make them. These are fascinating. No. You know about a rabbit hole. Yeah. She is an Instagrammer, and her and her husband were both models. They're in their 20s. They have like two or three kids. It's a very good-looking couple, but she just, like, makes the most ridiculous things, like, that you could just go to the store and buy, you know? She makes gumballs? She made gumballs. She makes these elaborate dishes, but also the most random things. Really? Yes. I know. This is like a rabbit hole that I'm, like, fascinated by. Yeah. So you have a whole thing on predictions then?

53:10Yeah, we do do predictions. We predicted the Bieber baby, too, at the beginning of the year. Really? Oh, we predicted the Bennifer breakup as well. You did? Yeah, it's in my book right here. This book, yes. Okay, guys, the book that she's referring to is not the book I'm holding. I know. She has the Astrology Advantage that's out with her sister, but she also has another book that's called Horoscope, 2024. Yeah, I'm working on 2025, getting it off to the printer now. Are you telling me this entire book is all predictions? No, the beginning, yes, it is for each sign. It's like the five themes every sign needs to know for the year.

53:49By the way, this is like literally the pink elephant, like the red herring. Why? Or not the red, you're burying the lead, I should say. So why are you not telling me about this book? You're pitching and talking about the other book. Well, I'll come back on and talk to you about 2025. This is interesting. So, okay, so make some predictions on this podcast. We predicted electric cars picking up mid-year, too, and the Rivian is doing really well, Sol. Is the Rivian doing well? I actually heard that the Rivian is in big trouble. Is it? Okay, I thought their stock went way up. Can we check that? Yeah, we'll check right now.

54:24I want to know because someone told me that they're not doing so great. Yeah, I'd like to know. And by the way, I'm not always right. You're not always right. I was going to say, thank you for being honest. I just tell, I mean, I know how the planets and astrology work, but. Can you tell me? We have free will. We don't always, you're not going to just always be an authority. Of course not. Yeah. So how often are you right and how often are you wrong? You know, I try to stay away from writing too much stuff that's right and wrong and just give people a lot of inspirational content. Yeah. But I don't know.

54:58I have to think about that, actually. So since this is a book on Virgo, wait, hold on a second. Well, it's a book on all the signs. I know, I know. But I'm saying a book on my, I'm just talking, I'm very narcissistic today. Penis and Leo. Now we see it. I was saying like in the Virgos, well, can you predict anything for Virgos this year? Yeah. So Virgos are having a little bit of a challenging year because Saturn is in your opposite sign of Pisces. Saturn is opposite your sun. So everything just may feel a little bit heavy. you may find yourself drawn to being, you know, doing things that are a little more serious than normal and maybe getting pushback from people as a result.

55:43Interesting. It's not really a popularity here. It's a, but I'm, you know, it's like Blake Lively is a Virgo, for example. She's getting kind of like... Why is she getting slammed by that? I'm still confused by it. What happened with her? Apparently she has, and God knows she's probably done so many more interviews. I don't know her. So I know what people are saying. Yeah, she is traditionally like a rude and a bully to reporters who interview her like she makes inappropriate jokes. So she was in this movie about domestic violence and people like, well, what should people know? And she was like, grab your girlfriends, wear your florals like and I don't get it.

56:26We mean, grab your girl. Like she was making it kind of, she was trying to promote her tequila, like her drink brand. But it was like a serious subject. Like reporters were asking her about domestic violence and what she would tell people. And she said something like, I don't know, like, should I give them my name, my address, my location tracker? Like kind of making these weird. Why would she say that? I don't know. She does that. She makes like weird jokes. And maybe it's a nervous thing, you know, but. But I saw there's like so much stuff on that. But I couldn't decipher. I know. I just had to decipher it.

57:01The other. I was like, what the heck is going on? I'm confused. But I'm still confused. So like she got pushed back. People thought that she was rude and just tone deaf to the situation. And a reporter said, interviewed her when she was like eight months pregnant, said congratulations on your little bump. And she said to the reporter, congratulations on your little bump. But she wasn't pregnant. So it was like a fat shame. And the reporter wasn't even, you know. So she just makes these weird. Maybe she's just quirky and strange. I think she is, but it doesn't land. It doesn't land. She was trying to be funny, but it just comes across as.

57:37Is it inappropriate? Yeah. And then she just like. But she's also she has been rude. Like after that, she was with Parker Posey and they just talked to each other and ignored the reporter. So she's done that a few times, too. So I didn't know. You know, it's so funny about life. is that a i'm living under a rock but besides that is that it's interesting how no i never heard any of this stuff and now because one thing went kind of like viral all of a sudden now she's like the worst human being alive pluto and aquarius like people can really be destroyed by social media with pluto and aquarius i think we're gonna have to like have a reckoning around that so right now so i'm in a year i'm gonna make it a little note you're And a little bit of a tough time with Saturn opposite your sun.

58:22It's really forcing you. Maybe work harder. You said you're exhausted. You know, like you're probably more tired. Like you don't have the, like you have to work harder to get your energy source up right now. Yeah. And then, okay, so like, so where am I in, where's Virgo, not me, whatever, Virgo in relationships? Thankfully, Pluto is ending this like 16-year tour through your romance house. So it's been, I feel like things for, like Saturn, yeah, relationships have also been a little bit heavy, though, because Saturn is in your marriage and partnership house. So it's just kind of like needing to make the time and space for relationships, but not totally having the energy or the desire to.

59:06So if I go into this book right now under Virgo, what would it say about relationships? Probably that. I haven't looked at it for a while because I'm working on 2025, but I wrote this in 2023. No problem. If you go to the Virgo part, it's just five themes. Would it say Virgos are having a hard time this year? It would say that relationships might be an area that feels heavy for you. It would say, I think, what did I predict? But careers now, there's some good career stuff happening since May. Since May? Okay, so it says, top five themes for Virgo in 2024 has brought in your reach. Why? GoPro? GoPro?

59:54GoPro, yes. GoPro like like GoPro like become like a hooker or GoPro like wear a GoPro. No it means Jupiter the planet of abundance is at the top of your chart in your career house so it's like professionalize everything that you do which you've already done. That's actually a very good point I like that. Be fluid with relationships. Yes you need to so Saturn and Pisces and Neptune like, yeah, like you may not be able to control every aspect of relationships right now and you have to let yourself flow with it. Yeah. Maybe some new structures are needed. I love this. Make green glamorous. That is about eco-chic, healthy eating, which you do already, but bringing some glam to it.

1:00:44Yes. God knows I need that. Manage your resources strategically, like that money. Yeah, money, investments, time and energy, too, like your physical resources as well. And what did you say brought in your reach was for? That was Jupiter and Uranus were together in your international ninth house in the first part of the year. They made this really rare connection and could have brought some global things. Well, of course, we're going to Israel and doing all this work. Oh, that's actually interesting. It started in April. I went to Israel in May. Okay, April 20th was this big day. May 4th. Okay, well, right around there.

1:01:25Yeah, of course, this global interest. Yeah, your international work is kicking up since then. And it was Jupiter and Uranus are the humanitarians. I wonder if, this is interesting. Okay, so can you make a prediction? Forget about me. I mean, I'll ask you off this podcast, but can you make any predictions now that you haven't made before? I want something fresh that I can share with my audience. Yeah, let me think about that. I've been thinking about that. Next year is really interesting because the outer planets, which don't change signs very often. It can be like 7 to 20 years sometimes. all of them are moving forward one sign for a little bit of time and then moving back so next year is like this you know like I feel it's going to be a very disorienting year for us all where we're like I think we're going to have some event that occurs that really forces us to get serious about climate change, like working together as a human race in the middle of the year, sometime between April and October, like the middle of the year.

1:02:54There's like this really, like, yeah. Really? Give me more specific. It could be another Hurricane Katrina type thing. It could even be a nuclear event. It could be something like shockingly getting washed away or, you know, like a big, not a weather thing, but like a big world. Yeah. Like, what would you call that? I mean, not necessarily a pandemic again, but like a cataclysmic kind of event of sorts. I don't mean to be apocalyptic, but it could also be like... Between April and... Or it could just be this disruptive technology that comes in even beyond AI that just, you know, let me actually reframe it in a positive way.

1:03:42There could be some groundbreaking technology that comes in that helps us reverse some of the impacts of climate change. I think we're going to see a lot of incredible innovations. And next year could bring one that just like completely changes the way we do things, the way the Internet did. Interesting. Okay. Can you be more specific with something else? I want to be much more specific. Give me a minute here. I don't like this very, very stuff. I'd like to know. I want hard facts. You're putting me on the spot here. Yes. That's what we do around here. Okay. And I'm looking here. Let me think about that for a minute.

1:04:16It's funny. I am. That's literally, this is the time of year that I'm going to be doing that. So, yes, cloning next year is going to be a bit. We're going to see weird, intense developments around cloning, whether it's AI cloning or actual cloning. Yes. Cloning of people? Could be cloning of people. We may figure out how to do that. Uranus, the science sci-fi planet, is moving into Gemini for the first time since 1941. 49. And we're at a point with, you know, Gemini is the sign of the twins. So it's going to be interesting. I might not be the only twin in town. I was going to say, is there going to be another Jennifer?

1:05:00I already have a clone. It's not so bad, actually. It's kind of handy. They can write for you. I was going to say, it can be very beneficial in a lot of ways. Let me think if there's any, let me think about other stuff. Well, there will, I think that unfortunately, there's going to be more war next year, too. Let me think of some good news stuff, but it's a No, I want the truth. Oh, I have a prediction for next year. Okay. And I know I heard Jerome Powell say that the interest rates are going to go down. But on June 9th next year, Jupiter, which is abundance and luck, is going into cancer. That rules residential real estate.

1:05:35So I think we're going to see things opening up in the residential real estate market again. Opening up and how? More people being able to afford housing, more, you know, a lot of boomers aren't selling their houses, you know, there's like a limit, like there's not as much inventory available. So I think we may see some, I don't know, just people wanting to sell and especially when interest rates go down. So you're saying that the housing market will open up in when? After June of next year, middle of the year, second half of the year. if you want to. And it does dovetail when interest rates are going down.

1:06:17So you're saying interest rates will go down then too? I do. Yes, I do think so. But that's also what Jerome Powell did say that. So he said second half of the year and I was like, oh, how interesting. Because, yeah. And so if someone wants to buy a Rivian, would you suggest they buy a Rivian if the stock is going up, even though I don't think it is? I would just, I would. Least it? I would. Or I would just buy stock in it while it's low right now. It might go up. Have you bought stock in it? I haven't, but a friend of mine did. And after my prediction, she said it went up, but I guess it's gone down now.

1:06:51This is so interesting. Well, maybe you'll just come back and tell me about your 2025 stuff. Yeah, I'll have a whole trend report written. Oh, perfect. Okay, well, guys, her book with her twin is called Astrology Advantage, and they are the Astro Twins. And this is Tally. and her other book is called The Astrology Guide to 2024. She's now writing her 2025. Yep, the Astro Twins 2024 horoscope. Yep. Yes, you heard it here first. And you can also follow them on Instagram. What's your Instagram? At Astro Twins. Yes. I love that. Okay, thank you so much for being on the podcast. That was so fun. I also do readings.

1:07:27You do? You can book a reading from Instagram. Yeah. Amazing. Guys, if someone wants their whole chart done, we can go through it just like we did for you. I know. Oh, we haven't even finished it, by the way. But I don't want to bore everyone with all the details here. But thank you so much for coming on the podcast. Oh, it was so fun. It was so fun. It was great to meet you. It was so good to meet you. Bye.

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Ever wondered how astrology could help you understand your work style and productivity patterns?
In this Habits and Hustle episode, celebrity astrologer Tali Edut of the Astro Twins joins me to break down how your complete astrological chart can reveal your natural leadership style, work preferences, and productivity patterns. 
We discuss her "I AM" system (Innovator, Authority, Maven), what your complete birth chart reveals about your work style, and how planetary movements might affect the housing market and tech innovations in 2025. We also discuss why some well-known public figures align perfectly with their astrological profiles and whether your astrological makeup matches your current work approach. 
Identical twin sisters Ophira and Tali Edut, known as the AstroTwins, are professional astrologers who reach millions worldwide. As the official astrologers for ELLE magazine and the matchmakers on Amazon Prime Video’s Cosmic Love they bring the stars down to earth with their empowering approach to horoscopes. Bestselling authors, they’ve written a collection of books, including Love Zodiac and Momstrology (their #1 Amazon bestselling parenting guide) and their own brand imprint annual horoscope guides.

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(05:03) Exploring Astrology and Personalities
(12:11) Exploring Zodiac Sign Archetypes
(20:17) Astrology and Personal Traits
(34:43) Dating Success and Astrology's Evolution
(40:36) Astrology Apps and Chart Interpretation
(44:15) Astrological Insights and Future Trends
(58:17) Astrology Predictions and Delving Deep
(01:07:42) Astrology Predictions 2025
(01:13:58) Astro Twins 2024 Horoscope Interview

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