Episode 423: Jason Chambers: Below Deck's Captain on Navigating Fame, Fatherhood, and Luxury Yachts

25:11Then you've also got the admin. You've got the accounting. You've got the reporting to the management. You've got reporting to the owner. And then you're fulfilling the itinerary and the cruising and the going through the grounds and the activities through the day. And then that's all starting again. And then you're also foreseeing what's happening in about four months time when you finish that season, going into a shipyard repair maintenance time, where you've probably got six weeks to turn the boat over, spend a million or two, and then get back out. And then all that is with crew vacations, crew leave, terminations, contractual stuff for that, employment, HR, uniform sizes, and then you've got the crew drama, which has happened.

25:53So that would be a day of the life. What time do you guys wake up? For a Bravo show, when you're filming for Bravo. When I'm filming, that's real life. Filming, we're the same. The only thing different about all that is I'm not foreseeing. I'm not, you know, it's all set. That's what we're doing. So walk up to the boat and just focus on that. Every day a captain, you know, he might go to sleep, you know, after guests have gone down or dinner and he'd be up early getting into it. And we have set hours of rest that the crew have to have. Otherwise, if they go outside that, it's past their legal requirements.

26:28They have to have a certain amount of rest in certain blocks for safety. But that does get broken every now and again because we want to try and get things done. Right, right, right. How do you guys have like, because, you know, you're out in the, you know, you're out in the outdoors. But how do you maintain like a healthy life? Like you obviously said that you really care about before even off camera, like longevity and health and wellness. And we're going to get into your whole story. Is it hard to take care of your health when you're like confined to like a boat underneath and you have to do a certain structured schedule?

27:01Like there's not much time to kind of like even have like, if you have like downtime, are you stuck going to your room or like are you allowed to like wander around the boat? Like what happens? Crew usually get a designated area where they can actually do some stuff. And a good owner or a good management system would understand that, respect that. And really good owners want their crew to have a healthy lifestyle. And I always promote that the crew can always jump in the water with the guests as well. they can get on the paddle boards with the guests, you know, because it's actually. Oh, they can.

27:31Well, to me, it looks like, well, one, they're actually getting some refreshing activity. Two, they're actually acting as a safety with the guests. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're another set of eyes. So it's actually access to purposes. But I think society's changed a lot too. I think if you go 20 years ago, the crew would work, work, work, go to the bar, get drunk, have a great time. Right. It's different now. I think we're a lot more conscious now. I see crew getting up early for the sunrise, meditating, journaling, doing yoga, being there fit. You can see it in society that men, young men are trying to be a lot fitter than they were 20 years ago.

28:07Totally. It's become super trendy now to be healthy. Yoga, meditating. Yeah, look, breath works is a big thing. I think crew are taking the more healthy approach to understanding that you can't keep working in these environments without a healthy body. and obviously healthy body then healthy mind really like what are your habits what do you do every day wake up every morning stretch for about half an hour what time do you wake up typically uh five ish six yeah five thirty six yeah that's fair that you stretch for half if i'm with my daughter i'm up at four because i go to bed at eight so um yeah so i stretch i go for a walk um if i if i'm not on land if i'm on land i go for a walk i'll do my breath works i just do my I usually do that when I'm in bed.

28:50I'll put on Wim Hof and do that 11-minute three-round. He was on here too. Oh, really? Yeah. I like Wim Hof. He's very nice. And then I'll do some fire breathing. Yeah. And then I'll just do some more stretching. I just do band exercises. I used to play professional rugby league when I was young, so I've got a few injuries. Oh. So I find that if I start getting into the gym, it's just too much. Really? Yeah. The gym's too much. Lifting weights is too much for me. I actually, I find getting into band exercise is being more helpful and good for the core. It is. Yeah. So wait, so because you said earlier too, like your daughter lives in Bali, now you live in Bali, but like you said you didn't see her for a year.

29:31Yeah, a year and a half. Is it because your schedule with the - I was with COVID, I was stuck in Australia on a boat. I couldn't leave, so. But normally that's not the case. Well, normally, if a yacht captain, very rarely there is rotational jobs, two months on, two months off, but they're very hard to find. Sometimes a captain could be away at sea for 10 months. So how do you have a life with anybody? Very difficult. Very difficult. That's why my friends are friends. 100%. Yeah. So we don't have a normal life. And you take two months off, a month off, even as the captain, you're still on the laptop, you're still on the phone.

30:06And there's so many jobs waiting for captains as well. if you don't say yes to the conditions, someone else will take it. So every time you're on holiday, you're threatened whether you're going to keep your job or not. Right. There's a mindset with yacht owners that they're just always there. Right. They're always part of the boat, whereas, no, you can't have any time off. There's a lot of marital breakups in this industry. Also, has anyone have a relationship or have kids? Very different. I find the same relationship breakups in the mining, in the offshore stuff where you do a lot of one month on, one month off.

30:43Yeah. Because it's a lot of time away. There's no consistency in terms of spending time. Well, what I see is it's the same pattern. Let's just say the mother is at home with the children and the father's working away for a month or two. And then he comes home, he walks into the household, he thinks he's back. Right. Well, wait up, this has been my nest for two months without you. Exactly. You know, don't just come in here. So you always see like a week of teething into slowly walking into the relationship with arguments when you come back. And then they finally get settled and then you feel then the wife or the mother feels like about two weeks before they're departing like starts to get that anxiety.

31:23And he starts to get that anxiety. So, you know, the whole two months off is actually a good portion of that is broken up with, you know, unrest. A hundred percent. There's no rhythm. No, there's no rhythm. There's no rhythm. Like it's constantly like upheaval and like, you know, growing apart. And then you come back and it's like they already went on with their lives a little bit. And then you're kind of, so how do you, even with a kid, like you, what I think is amazing. And I noticed this yesterday when we met is like any moment you can mention your daughter, you do. Like you love your child so much, which is like beautiful.

31:56I love that. It must be really hard to be away from her like that much. So when this season, I put everything into building that place in the Philippines. Yeah. A nice little five-star resort. You know, her mother really did a great job building it. Even though we weren't together, we said, okay, you build it. We'll be 50-50. It just gave me, it's what I've always wanted, was my daughter to grow up with a unique environment. So she grew up as this white blonde girl that speaks fluent Tagalog, Filipina. She actually thinks she's Filipino. She's got that empathy. Really? She just wants to give to other people, make sure everyone's looked after, which is just that true.

32:35It's a caretaker of vitality. That real true Filipino care. She grew up in a very remote location and we've given her that. And now they've moved to Bali now for a better education. And yeah, look, I'm proud that we've given that point. But when Below Deck happened and COVID happened, post-COVID, I was like, I don't care what happens. The next two years, I'm not going to work. I don't care if I spend all my money. I'm going to stay with my daughter. And I've done that probably 80 % of the time. So if this goes nowhere, it goes nowhere, I'll just go back onto a boat. Right, right. But now I'm actually trying to pick things up, see how much I can actually really make the most out of this year.

33:12My two years is up. Yeah. So now I'm actually trying to get back. Your two years is up? Two years that I set out for her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you know when it's up? When I didn't see her from six to eight, now she's eight to ten. Yeah. And I gave her a kiss goodnight because she sleeps with me. We've just got a one-bedroom villa in Bali. She sleeps with her mother who's got a one-bedroom. And I gave her a kiss goodnight. She said, Papa, I need to talk to you about something. I said, what? She said, boundaries. I went, what boundaries? She goes, I don't think you can give me a kiss goodnight.

33:44I'm like, what? Not on the lips. I went, okay, but can I hug you? She goes, you can hug me goodnight, but no more kissing goodnight. I went, really? Oh, my God. So sorry for you. I rolled over and about two minutes later she reached over and hugged me and gave me a kiss. So I'm actually understanding that it's that time that, you know, I know she's only 10, but I know that she's becoming. More of a girl. I know what you're talking about. She won't let me see her with her top off anymore. She's got to have a top underneath her top, you know. Right, she's got a baby. She is. I don't trust me. I'm going through the same thing.

34:20My little one turns 10 in five weeks, and I know it's like a – like they were just like a baby or they still are your baby, right? Yeah. But like there's different rules and boundaries. I'm getting the same conversation. Yeah, I know that that's the hint of like, okay, well, I can spread my wings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's fine. I've given her a good two years. I'll give her all my life, that's for sure. Right, right, right. My whole life's about her, but I know that I can – she's like, fine, we've got FaceTime. I'm like – Is that what she says? Yeah. Whereas, you know, she misses, she rings me every day, but she's like, it's fine.

34:52As long as we can talk on FaceTime, it's fine. You know, but then she's like, come home, you know, and I need to see her. So I flew home. I had Christmas with my parents. My parents were not too well this year. So I had Christmas with them and I flew home straight away to see her for a week, you know, as soon as I had a good hunk of time with my parents. So where do you actually live? Bali, I've got a home in Bali, but Philippines, we have the resort. So I'm actually been a little bit nomadic my entire life. But this year I'm trying to find some stability and actually look towards the place to put some anchors down.

35:25Roots. Do you think you would ever live in the U.S.? She's in love with the L.A. She's in love with L.A. I brought her here last year. And she's like, oh, yeah. Really? Why don't you live here, Papa? And I'll just come here and visit. I'm like, maybe. So you might move here. Look, I don't want to even put any anxiety or thought into it to have any anxiety. I've got to get some stuff done this year. I've got a good first half. I've got a very busy first half of the year. And then once that's done, then I'll actually, I'll put more thought into it then. Wait, so how long did you say when you like shoot for the show?

35:59How long did you say it is? Like a six weeks, but then we do about six months of editing, right? They're not editing the show, but just things we didn't pick up or voiceovers that we didn't do. So I'll fly back to here once a month for about six months, probably six times just to tidy up things that maybe after the after each charter we get into a green room and talk about that charter maybe my enthusiasm wasn't there i was tired or something or you know maybe i just want need to be a bit more upbeat about this or can you be a little bit more firmer about that uh termination you did right and so they do give you guidance in terms of how you should uh no this is much later they oh so even so after the season's done yeah they kind of give you feedback on what you can do next time no we'll fly when they're editing and they're putting it together our voiceovers or our interpretation of their interpretation of that moment may not have been that conducive to what happened so they might just ask us to can we you say that again but with a bit more enthusiasm and then that's the clip it's just it's called pickups it's editing part of the editing so no i know i used to have it for y 'all i had this i didn't i wasn't i didn't love it i had a weight loss show and they had but they had a bug in my ear like we don't like one of those things yeah and they'd be like go up to so and so and tell them this or that it felt very contrived they don't do that on your show no oh god you're lucky yeah no we've i'm the captain of the boat there's no way i'd run a boat good okay i know you kind of said that but i didn't like sometimes it is bravo i mean it's not like it's um like they're they're known for their very dramatic reality shows.

37:38So it just happens anyway. This is good. This adds another, this is the thumb of the hand of theirs, I suppose, you know, whereas all the other stuff is very dramatic and reality and it's got their audience. We give the Bravo audience another aspect of reality, but doing a real job. And it's good that they, it's just another genre, really within a genre yeah yeah yeah what how many years are you contractually like doing this gig uh season after season so you know we just hope that the ratings are popping up and now we get another one right so you don't know like next year you may not be on yeah so if this season does lousy you're screwed basically that's yep and would you like do you like doing tv like would you want to do more of that stuff i honestly i have met so many friends through the production and the people at the back.

38:31Yeah. They're very similar to ourselves. They're working away from home. Yeah. They're putting so many hours in. They're trying to create something for someone else. Probably don't know when the next job's coming, very much like I spoke about. They're all passionate about what they do, and they're working hard and trying to – honestly, to be quite honest, you could actually have cameras filming them, and that could be a show as well. Oh, my God. It's probably the best show. Yeah. It's probably the best drama show ever. I agree. How did you even become a captain, though? Like, did you love the water?

39:03Did you love boats as a kid? Like, what was your evolution to be like, you know what? I want to become a captain of big boats. Well, in a short, I'll keep it short. I did a mechanics apprenticeship. I became a mechanic. I got drafted to play professional rugby league. I was a good rugby league player back in the day. Oh, wow. I then did an apprenticeship as a plumber. Then I chose not to play football but just rugby league. I just chose to get married actually. That's the first. No one knows that. I got married when I was very young. How old were you? I was 20. 20? Yeah, so I married my high school girlfriend.

39:39And then at 25, who we're still in touch with now, I was like, well, what are we doing? So I actually gave up professional football to be with her. But then I travelled. I went a year around South America, then backpacked by myself and then hitchhiked around Middle East from Istanbul down to Cairo. You hitchhiked? Yeah, and around South America as well. And then a friend of mine who I met in England got a job on a boat in Newport, Rhode Island. So I went back to Australia. I came to visit him and I just walked onto a boat. To do what? Just like? Just to help. And the crew came back and the engineer said, this guy knows what he's doing.

40:15You know, like let's take him to Miami to the shipyard. So they took me down there and I started work and they said, let's just do a season with him. So I did that. Long story short, went back to Australia for a year of football, then came back and got a job as an engineer on a boat, went up to Newport, New York, saw the World Trade Center come down, went back. The boat didn't sell. It was owned by Mexico. The boat didn't sell? Sorry, the boat didn't sell. It was up for sale. Oh, sell. The accent. That's why I keep on missing. No, I like it. It's just like I'm listening very intently. We came back down to New York, and after the season, the boat was for sale, and it didn't sell.

40:51Okay. No one was buying it. And it was a 110-foot boat. And the owners said, well, we'll take it to the Mediterranean. And I was the only one looking after it by myself because it was for sale. And they said, we want you to drive it. And I said, I don't know how to drive. And they said, learn. So that was it. I was 28 years old, off to the Mediterranean, never been in the Mediterranean, never driven a boat before. And I just took off and winged it. You just winged it? Winged it. And then ever since then, you're a captain? Ever since then, I've been winging it. Seriously? What is the protocol? How does anyone become a captain?

41:24Is there a school for captains? I had to do a certificate. I had sea time enough to actually do the certificate, so I had to pass the certificate to do that, but it just fell short under a grade, which was great for me, easy to be able to get the certificate. Then I took off. I surrounded myself with good people, and actually for about five, ten years I really just learned on the run. Then eventually I ended up driving one of the biggest boats. What was the boat? It was, what is it, 300 foot? and helicopters, everything. And we had 28 crew. It was a huge boat, so I actually got to the point. And I thought, no, I'm too detached from the crew.

42:00I don't really like – I could stay up in the wheelhouse and never see a crew member for a week if I wanted to. I had a lounge up there. I had a kitchen, a galley, everything. So I thought, no, it's not me. I want more adventure, even though I could have retired on that job. How much did they pay in a boat like that? Anywhere between$15 ,000 to$20 ,000 a month. to be a captain of a 300-foot boat. Yeah, well, it goes up to 30 ,000. Really? Anywhere from 15 ,000 to 30 ,000 a month. And then you get your tips and all that stuff? If you're a charter boat. But I could have retired on that job, but it wasn't me.

42:32And I came back and bought land in the Philippines and felt more. I actually learned more driving around these remote areas and got more out of it. And that's kind of where a lot of where I am now. That's why I'm working with these charities that I work with. I know. Tell me about that charity. I love that charity. What was it called? Classroom of Home. Yeah, what is that? I've been looking for a plastic waste solution in the Philippines, building our place. We get a lot of rubbish washing up, and I've been thinking – we used to grind our plastic up and put it into our foundations just to get rid of it.

43:02Right. So, yeah, I've been looking at blocks and everything, and I came across this foundation in Indonesia that use all fully recycled – you make these blocks out of all recycled plastic waste. 24 ,000 tons of plastic waste a day wash up onto Indonesian rivers. And they have a big factory. They turn them into these Lego blocks and they build schools out of it. In 2018, 400 schools got knocked down by earthquakes. This foundation that was there went in there to help because they were an education foundation. After that, they said, well, if we keep rebuilding these schools, they're just going to knock down again because there's earthquakes all the time.

43:41So then they found this solution. So they've rebuilt 100 schools out of this solution. I loved it. I went and visited them. They don't even just, it's not just about the schools, about the education. They're working with each community and the chiefs to understand how they can help. Like the females there, in their religion, if you run off with a boy, you have to get married. If you have a night with the boy, you have to get married. But the father of the boy is not going to let you marry unless she can get pregnant. So you need to get pregnant before you can get married. And then you can get divorced too.

44:12So they're trying to teach these communities that there's a better way with education. You don't have to fall back on that. We can actually have a better solution. So they've actually got so many aspects of this foundation that are helping the community. But on top of that, they're building these schools, rebuilding these schools out of a plastic waste recycle material. And I'm a PADI Dive Ambassador for PADI, the diving certificate. For what? PADI is the dive certificate that you get your diving courses through. Okay. So I'm the paddy dive ambassador. So ocean conservation is a big thing for me.

44:45I just got my daughter certified. So we went on. I said, how can I help to this foundation? They said, would love to have you on board. So they gave me a school for 171 children, no bathrooms. The girls, every time they have their monthly, have to go home for a week because there's no dignity there. Really? There's no bathroom. So that was the school I got given last year. And I put it up. I threw it out there. Sheena of Vanderpump Rules threw$5 ,000 and got it started. and in four months we raised$100 ,000 and I built the school and I took my daughter to open it and cut the ribbon. And last month we went to Melbourne, Australia for a gala.

45:21We had to raise$60 ,000 more. I spoke at the gala. We raised$140 ,000. It's a great foundation and it's fantastic. And my daughter's part of being there with it too, which is a good thing for her. Wow, I love that. Last month I took her up into the mountains of Bali. There's another foundation, Bali for rice, with all the construction that's going on in Bali. Bali for what? Bali for rice. Rice? Rice, as in. As eating rice, okay. And all the rice fields are getting taken for construction with all these foreigners' buildings. So there's a lot of elderly and disabled people and special needs people that are actually not getting fed.

45:59So these foundations supply rice every week to these families and it's a great organization. And there's plenty of foreigners in Bali that are given back. But look, Philippines is my heart and I'd love to take some stuff to Philippines in the future. But at the moment, I'm in Bali and it's something that I feel passionate about. And I don't know what to do on my social media. I'm not very good at it. Do you do your own social media? I do my own social media. Everyone's like, you've got to get more in front of the camera. And I'm like, okay, but I don't know what. But this is easy. It's something I'm passionate about.

46:31Aligns to the ocean conservation. I've got a child. Education is a big thing. I think my daughter's very lucky that she's growing up in a unique environment, you know, and she didn't want to hold the camera for me the other day when we were giving out the rice. And I said to her - She did not want to? No. And I said to her later, I said, why didn't you want to do that, Saskia? And she said, I was embarrassed. And I said, I know why you're embarrassed. And she said, tell me. And I said, because you've got more than them. And she said, you're right. I was like that in the Philippines, you know, to bring the people to our house because we had a bigger house.

47:02And I was like, Sask, this is just learning. and I'm glad you've got that feeling because that's empathy and that's not a bad thing. And don't be shy of that. You can be embarrassed and you can actually have empathy as well. But just know why you've got it. And it's because you have appreciation of what you have. What a beautiful lesson that you just taught your child. That's all we have to do, you know, a little bit. We don't have to ask for much. I think it's – So she has gratitude like just from having that environment. What's amazing to me is just the difference in terms of just where you raised your child, how they grow up, like in terms of their mentality, their needs, their desires.

47:44Like because she never stepped foot here in America, right, she doesn't know from all this. She doesn't know from the fact that every kid here is stuck on their phone and they won't play outside or they don't do playdates or they are on social media. Like, they're not doing that back there. No. Okay, she loves her iPad now when she can get it. She doesn't get it with a mom, but she gets it with me. How much do you give her the iPad? Look, she gets, I would say, a couple of hours a week. Oh, okay. Yeah. But you regulate it and you monitor it. Yeah, I'm pretty bad with it. Mom's good with it. Your mom, her mom.

48:22Mom's good with it. But, you know, she... But two hours a week is... But she does crochet now. Like, and she does crocheting and stuff. She does... Really? Yeah, she does. she make things she's got her her invisible friends she's got her her other plus her other dolls and stuff that she makes things for and she she has a little word to it she's the other day she said you can't sit there i said well she goes blah i can't remember big dog or something i'm like oh that's cute i'm not gonna take that away from him like that's great no they should that's an imagination and and keep that imagination you know like allow it 100 we had it we'd be fine you know entrepreneurs get have it we we do have i mean entrepreneurs do have it you have to have Well, that's because, well, I mean, this is how the whole thing, like, I believe that we need to be bored sometimes.

49:07And when we were kids, I was always bored. But that's where I believe, you know, boredom kind of breeds brilliance in a way, right? Because that's where creativity lives. That's where you think of different things. Like, if you're not bored and you're constantly distracted all the time, you're never going to get those light bulb, those moments of genius. Yeah. But you can actually visualize and imagine where the end is. Well, 100%. And not actually look at the obstacles in between. Exactly. So then if you're doing this stuff, like, you know, with the show, six weeks on, whatever, and then you do your pickups, how do you spend the rest of your time?

49:43It's a good question. It's been a very, very low, low period where I've actually moved probably into a bit of a cave as well. Right. Because I know when I'm out, I'm out. Right. When I've got these things, you know. So health is a big thing. I've just had a huge end of the year with my father with Alzheimer's. How old is your father? They're turning 80 next year. So I just, mum had a heart attack. Dad had Alzheimer's. I flew back to help. My best mate passed away in a horrific accident. I had the melanoma. I had a diagnosis of melanoma. I had a lot going on. And I think that's nothing but going to propel me into where I really wanted to go anyway.

50:23um i've always tipped around my yoga my health everything like that but i i want to i want to move right into like not the i'm not going to say peak i want to see how far things my body can be you know i want to know more about mind cognitive behavior preventative reversing alzheimer's a little bit know about the foods that we what we can take you know because i want to know more about because of my dad. Of course. Did they actually diagnose him with Alzheimer's? Yeah. How did they know? Did they do an MRI and scan his brain? Yeah, they did the whole lot. We always had, for the last six or seven months, we could see changes.

51:01And then when mom had a heart attack, a triple bypass, and he was by himself, it just came on like a ton of bricks. And it's really there now. It's prevalent. And now he's on medication to take that back. But I've been listening to a lot of podcasts, so I'm actually just trying to teach myself now. But I want to see what I can do too. And I know that I've got a good journey ahead because of everything that just went, that happened at the end of last year. So I'm thinking, wait up. So I'm doing manifesting and mindful coaching. I want to do some journaling of where I can go and follow the journey, see where I am now.

51:31Start selling some stuff online that, you know, to try and make a passive income so I can actually try and use something from this. With Alzheimer's coming on with dad, I feel like I've got the opportunity to learn more about that. And I am doing mindful and manifesting coaching as well, which is good. I'm starting to do the therapy that my mate suggested when he passed, before he passed away. So you're doing, do you have a coach or you're coaching? Yeah, I've got a coach now. I've done two sessions with her. I get a lot out of it too. She asked me the other day, what are the things I want to get out of it?

52:04And I said, I want discipline. I want continuity and accountability and execution. And she said, explain that. I said, well, you know, I've always been that person to go with the flow. So I want to be more disciplined to actually set my targets and actually do it. Like, yeah, go and see that person or go and do that. Like, don't just brush it off and go with, if it happens, it happens. Continuity is actually continuing and doing that. And accountability to me is not just of the things that are going wrong, but be accountable and appreciative of things that you are doing right. So when people, probably not the sexy stuff that's going on, But when people say, oh, you did a good job or you did that, I'm going to say thank you.

52:46I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm going to take that on. But write that down as well and be grateful every day and say that to myself every day as well. And then execution is to get all of those things going. So it's funny. The podcast is called Habits and Hustle, right, for a reason, right? Because it's basically the habits and hustle of the most successful people and the best experts and how they got from place A to point A to point B. So we talk a lot on this podcast. I'm in A now. I'm in place A. Well, next time you'll be here, you'll be at place B and then C. But what I talk about, my entire platform is really based around discipline.

53:30You rely on discipline. You don't rely on motivation because motivation wanes. so does willpower to muscle just you can't it doesn't it doesn't last so discipline is how you get from a to b and being consistent is it's not about talent it's really about being consistent day to day it's not the most intense but it's the most often like that it's and it's also the most boring stuff right like doing the same things day in day out gives you that mindset of you know of being accountable to yourself. Well, that's where habits are formed is through subconscious. And that's about you actually doing. Yeah.

54:09You know, you do it. It's action based. You, you know, if I, if I pick up that phone every day, if I pick up that phone every day, if I pick up that phone every day at nine o 'clock, uh, eventually next minute, um, I'm just doing it without even nine o 'clock coming. And that's what it, that's what it for. I just use that analogy because there's a phone there, but you know what I mean? Like it's routine, right? But it's body movement. It's body movement, I think. You know, it's not just mental. It's not just saying it. It's actually doing. No, it's definitely not just saying it. You've got to move your body into that habit.

54:37But you have to make habits. Like that's why, you know, people laugh at me because I'm very regimented. But if you're not to a certain degree regimented, things don't get done, right? Like if you have goals, you have to have some type of plan and you've got to execute on that plan or things will just like, you know, maybe it can happen, maybe it won't, right? but with your lifestyle, you have a very, very, like it's an all over the place lifestyle, right? Like you're on a boat, then you're not on a boat. It's like, you may have work, you may not have work. Very hard. The habits fall off. It's very hard to actually have that.

55:12Even, even traveling with the stuff that I like to eat. You know, I found that this year, my body went down a little bit in health because I was such on the move. I was on the move for three months, but usually when I'm in that little mode, I've got my things I do every day. I eat my turmeric, my ginger, my onion my garlic all that yeah you know you know take my brazil nuts and stuff like that if i do if i'm doing all that or you know i'll take my creatine every day um oh i have creatine for you have you ever tried this creatine no you've got the magic oh the magic mind can by the way we totally forgot about this because we have to do this shot yeah normally we do this at the beginning of the podcast but and i've had like a lot of these today but these are my these these honestly does work i know it does and it's like and the ingredients i wouldn't be even doing these shots if it didn't work i've tried tons of these different types and this one is by far the ingredients are the best try it oh cheers okay i always leave a bit in there to get the bottom really because you do you shake it enough probably not yeah i shake i've got to shake it and then now you're going to be super focused for someone else's podcast well i have not had one of these for about a year and when i did have one it changed me and i would love to um sponsored by I will definitely set you up with them because this is a great company.

56:28Also, creatine. Have you tried this? I love the Momentus creatine. It'd be perfect for you because they do these travels now. I'm going to show you. They're like you can take it with you and you can just – they're in individual packs. Do you do creatine? Yeah, I did some today. Good. So like these are the things like these are like habits that you can get into that are healthy. Totally. But traveling is a big thing. What do I travel? How can I travel around with the less things? well that's what i'm saying like these little travel packs do you do any kind of other wellness modalities like do you do red light do you do the sauna do you do all those things i ice bath a couple of times a week easy um red light sauna for sure okay you mean infrared sauna or yeah okay so i'd love to do red light therapy i've been looking into it you've never tried it before no i understand the concept of it for sure from a light frequency point of view i've read about it or understand it that you know that the ailments in your body are broken up through your light frequency the red light actually brings it back together um and i i'm i'm across all that i well i'm not across it but i i definitely um believe all that i'm gonna give you something it's not a belief it's a it's a fact well it's vomiting i'm gonna you're gonna leave here today with like so many like wellness gifts because i love this thing it's called the tri-light red light it's a it's a red light by this company called therisage who has like in my opinion the best red light but i travel with it and you can like it's like a a panel and then you can put it wherever like so you could put it on your leg you could put on your face i just had a rotator cuff injury for last month you know okay so that's perfect good now and um i actually think i i did the nad in um iv 500 milligrams and then i did another one a week after that and it did improve it a hell of a lot you felt a difference i felt like well actually when it was going in i actually felt that was the pain straight away so they say it goes straight to to where you need it Did you get nauseous with the...

58:19No, I cranked it right up. It was fine. How long did it take? I reckon 45 minutes. Yeah. I mean, like, that's actually a lot. Well, if it takes, like, if you, you know, if you do it really, really fast, I get so nauseous on those things. I could, you know, feel it. It was just, yeah, it felt like I did a couple of shots of tequila. Right. I mean, I think tequilas would be better than the shot. But are you a drinker then? Because you are from... I do. Look, to be quite honest, in this industry that I'm in, obviously, I loved it. But now I do big moments of no. No alcohol, yeah. No alcohol and big moments of, not big moments, but moments of yes.

58:57Look, I love a steak and a glass of red wine. I love going out once in a while. But I must admit I'm a bit more, as I said, introverted these days. I don't go out too much. If I'm in Bali, I'm with my daughter, I don't go out. So if I am traveling, you know, look, I don't want to be drinking at events anymore. Like I want to be focused. Right. So that's my rule. But if I'm with friends and stuff and there's something on and I feel comfortable and in a good position, I will. But I actually have the anxiety the day after. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't drink, so I wouldn't. It's just not me. It's just not me.

59:29I don't like waking up in an environment. If I'm in a safe environment, I'll do it. Right. So, yeah, because I think drinking, in my opinion, is like the number one most terrible thing you can do for your body. I totally agree. I've had last year, I went November till May. Nothing. Look, we were talking about this today in the car. Like the focus you get after three months is just insane. It's so worth it. But, you know, I just love sitting with a nice big steak and a glass of red as well. I know. Well, I like steak. Steak's good. Like that's protein. Yeah, totally. That's all I'll eat. Can you have it with something else, like a carbonated water?

1:00:06I'll try. Is that the same? I know. Well, I know, but I've been looking at Neutropics. There's a company in Australia I was going to talk to. They do a gin and tonic. They do an Aperol spritz. And it's all alcohol-free, sugar-free. And I'd love to work with a company like that. There's another one in New Zealand called Apera. And what do they do? They do a blackcurrant. It's nootropics. No, nootropics is usually like a brain supplement of some kind. Well, it's a – yeah. But what is this? These are drinks. These are drinks that actually support cognitive behavior, which is just made out of – Oh, okay.

1:00:40But it's not – is there alcohol or not? No, no alcohol. Oh, no alcohol. That's what I was going to say. That doesn't sound – They taste like alcohol. It's a gin and tonic. It's an Aperol spritz, and it's a Moscow mule, but it's no alcohol, no sugar. And, you know, there's good – So it mimics the drink in terms of taste. It mimics the drinks, but it's used in nootropics, plant-based. Interesting. Yeah. So there's a few of them coming out now. There's so much of this stuff. I mean, it's so overwhelming. This is now like – this is my life, and every day I'm like noticing, I'm getting, I'm talking.

1:01:09I mean, it's like there's so much of all of this. Well, this is why I've brought out a fragrance this year. I've got a fragrance I'm bringing out because I usually do essential oils. So I have a fragrance launching in March. Yeah. Do you want to pass me the fragrance? Oh, so you are doing a lot of side hustles. I am starting now. Yeah. So yeah. Well, I usually do. The problem needs to pay you more apparently. I usually do a lot of essential oils spray face mist on crew and on the sound. Oh, okay. Let me see this. And on the sound and production team. So in Bali, I started doing this. I started learning about fragrances.

1:01:44So I put it. It's a gender neutral fragrance. And that's coming out in March. Now, I didn't want to promote alcohol. Everyone does promote spritzes and everything. So this was something that I thought was totally different. It's along what I like. I always had my essential oils. And I thought, well, I'll do a fragrance. And I sat down for about two or three months. It's taken about eight months to come. It's for about two or three months to develop the scent. The scent, and it's actually kind of me on a boat, the sand, waterfalls. It's got some earthy tones, and it's definitely got some nature there.

1:02:17And it's long-lasting, and it's actually done by some beautiful people that have actually got some great hearts. Wow. Where are you going to sell it? It'll be on my website, which is coming out soon, which is Captain's Lounge. Captain's. Captain'slounge.life. Okay. Which will be on my Instagram, and that'll be dropping in February. Have you not promoted this at all yet? No. You don't – okay, so are you going to have someone to try to get it into like the department stores or – Eventually, yeah. Well, I'll work on it, yeah. Who actually – do you have a – like who's making it? Does someone come to you and say, hey – No, it's just me.

1:02:49It's all you. It's just me. Who paid for all the manufacturing? Me, yeah. Really? Do you have an agent? No. You don't have an agent or anything. So it's just basically like you going out there and like making your own deals. Yeah. Wow. Do you think maybe you should get an agent or – Don't know. Really? I'm a boat captain. I'm going to give you some business 101. You can do. You're on a big reality show. This is my little, like, you're on a major, major reality show on Bravo. The women obviously really like you according to Bravo. Why would you not get an agent to find you some, like, endorsement deals and some speaking gigs?

1:03:26Let's go. I mean, I would think, I mean, I think that would be like a, that would be the next evolution of your career. Maybe that's part of one is discipline. probably a little bit more confidence and less insecurities. I could probably do that. I don't know. I'm a fish out of water in all this. You are. You're just like a captain of a boat and like this whole thing just happened. Yeah, I can drive a boat with 30 people and crew and do all that there and make decisions and make on the spot, you know, emergency decisions and stuff and look after your life and take it for the best ride of your life.

1:03:54Right. But when it comes to open up that laptop and looking behind the screens of that social media, I've got no idea. So wait a minute. So no agent has reached out to you? No manager has reached out to you? I had a manager for a while. Not much came through. I had a good deal with Invisilign. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, I had a good deal with Johnson & Johnson with AcuV. Yeah. So they've been good. They're the things that have got me through. But when it comes to doing the stuff for myself, I've never – But those are big ones, like Johnson & Johnson, like Invisilign. Those pay like a lot of money.

1:04:26Yeah, it was good. So if you had an agent or somebody to like go up there and like pitch you more regularly or at an agency, You'd be getting things like that all the time. Let's go. But I have this philosophy and I actually think I'm sticking to it pretty good. I do not want to be selling things everywhere all the time. No, you do not. I want to be true to what is for me and what I stand for. So when I do try to voice something like that, now there'll be a portion of every sale of anything I ever do that'll go back to a project. Of course it would because you're a nice guy. That's where I'll get the love out of it.

1:05:01That's amazing. I have an idea for you. You know what you'd be, you'd do great at, I think, because of who would watch it. Like if you were to do like some kind of like partnership with like a QVC or an HSN, because the people who watch QVC and HSN, there's like the shopping networks are the same people who are watching reality TV. They love reality. You know, they love the Real Housewives. I'm sure they love your show Below Deck. If you were to do like some kind of partnership with them, they would be able to make this so you wouldn't have to pay for the manufacturing or any of that. And then they could put you on the show and you would basically sell on their block of time.

1:05:41And the women would love to see you because they love you probably already. Shirt on or shirt off? I think shirt off would probably do better. But maybe you could do like a tight tank top. You could like meet in the middle or something. You know what I mean? I gotcha. But to me, that would be like a great money gig for you. And that way, like right now you're paying for the manufacturing of this, right? You're paying for all of this, like all that heavy lifting is coming from your pocket. Yeah. Yeah. And so like you would like, this is what I like. I think it's a no brainer. There are people who I meet in LA who literally don't have even half of what you have.

1:06:16They don't even have like they have like one season of some, you know, Bodong horrible reality show from some shitty network. And they're out there with their agents and their managers and their publicists trying to like hawk something. You're actually like a really decent guy who's got a very nice way about you on a massive hit show three seasons in. And like you're making your own perfume. Are you kidding me right now? I'm just hiding away in Bali somewhere. I really, I need to get out there. I need to be represented a bit better and probably learn a bit more, I suppose. So, you know, but meeting you has probably given me a little bit of, I'll take this on.

1:06:52It's a little bit of discipline and maybe a little bit more advice would be great. I'm going to give you more. I mean, listen, I'm like shocked at what I'm hearing. I mean, you know this, right, from your Bravo friend, Hayley? But they're not going to give us any. No, they're not going to help you with that. But like if you were really touted like the sexiest man on Bravo or sexiest reality star, that headline itself, you can leverage that to like so many different endorsement deals. You can probably get a book deal. I can make you millions of dollars by next year. Let's go. Sign me out. How are you not doing this?

1:07:26Sign me out. sign me up i'll give you business advice later okay so guys this is he's the nicest guy captain jason um watch season three of below deck and uh you'll come back when you're at point b right yeah please do i'll help you get from a to b that would be great i'll help you in the in the middle so where do people find you so promote where you can you can be found my instagram captain j chambers and on there my website is uh captainslounge.life which is all on there and also on there in links, you'll see the foundation as well. And you'll see a lot of my grid on my Instagram is a link towards the foundations that we've been doing and the schools that we've been rebuilding as well.

1:08:07So from there, you'll find us and we'll get a bit more active on the other social platforms as well. But for now, Instagram is the go-to and Captain J Chambers. And as I said, captainslounge.life. Thank you so much, Jason. It was so nice to have you. I'm glad we met. Me too. Me too. Thank you. Okay, guys, go watch his show and go follow him on Instagram. Bye-bye.