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Podcast Summary: Habits and Hustle - Episode 503 with Anthony William
Overview In this episode of "Habits and Hustle," host Jennifer Cohen interviews Anthony William, known as the Medical Medium. The conversation dives deep into health misconceptions, the impact of heavy metals on mental health, and the simplicity of detoxification. Anthony shares his unique insights, drawn from his experiences since childhood, where he claims to have received health advice from a voice he refers to as the "Spirit of Compassion."
Key Themes and Discussions
Misconceptions About Health
- Wrong Advice in Health: Anthony argues that many health seekers fail not due to a lack of care but because they follow misleading advice.
- Simplicity Over Complexity: The Medical Medium emphasizes that simplicity in health practices is often more beneficial than complicated hacks.
Heavy Metals and Mental Health
- Impact on Conditions: Heavy metals in the brain can exacerbate conditions like OCD and ADHD.
- Detoxification Foods: Anthony recommends five key foods for detox: spirulina, barley grass juice powder, cilantro, dulse, and wild blueberries.
- Protein Misunderstandings: He challenges the notion that protein is a miracle nutrient, suggesting that it can lead to health complications.
Celery Juice Phenomenon
- Celery Juice's Role: Anthony explains why celery juice gained popularity and how it serves as a powerful health remedy.
- Controversy and Misinformation: He addresses backlash from dietitians and others claiming juicing is less effective than consuming whole foods.
Spirit of Compassion and Healing
- Origin Story: Anthony shares how he began receiving health insights from the Spirit of Compassion at the age of four, guiding his life’s work.
- Healing Journeys: He discusses the profound effects his advice has had on numerous individuals suffering from chronic illnesses.
The Health Movement and Media Response
- Censorship: Anthony discusses facing backlash and hate for promoting ideas contrary to mainstream medical advice.
- Medical Medium's Influence: The conversation touches on Anthony's significant impact in the health community, with millions healed through his teachings.
Key Takeaways
- Avoid Over-Supplementation: Many health issues stem from following over-supplementation advice and complex diets.
- Detoxification is Crucial: Regular detoxification through simple foods can lead to significant health improvements, particularly for those struggling with chronic conditions.
- Question Conventional Wisdom: Listeners are encouraged to critically evaluate the advice given by health professionals and not to shy away from unconventional sources.
Conclusion This episode challenges listeners to rethink their approach to health and wellness. With Anthony William's unique perspective and the insights he provides, the conversation is both enlightening and thought-provoking, urging individuals to seek simplicity and truth in their health journeys.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. We have the medical medium, otherwise known as Anthony Williams. Thank you for being here. Oh, you got to take the S off my William. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Anthony William. You're right. Anthony William. Easy mistake. Made all the time. It's a very easy mistake. Thank you for forgiving me so easily. You are so interesting. I mean, guys, if you don't know who Anthony is, aka the medical medium, this will be a really interesting podcast for you. He is very controversial. I would say controversial. Very polarizing. People either love you.
0:44Or freaking hate me. Or hate you. So much. They want me dead. They do. They don't. There's a big extreme with you. I mean, I had a debt threat yesterday. You did? It's crazy. Right before I did the Barnes & Noble book signing. Really? I was there. A ton of people showed up and everything. Right before, you know, we did it, I was getting out of the car and stuff. And all of a sudden, my team's like, boom, another death threat. And I'm like, great. You know, and I'm like, I'm like, don't worry about it, guys. Let's just get this done. They're like, OK, don't worry about it. Really? Why do you think that is?
1:19Like, why do you think people are so? You're just not allowed to, like, heal a lot of people, right? Like millions of people worldwide. It's, there's a big difference between like, there's a big difference between a dude who's a practitioner or an influencer or, you know, a doctor or healer or whatever they are. And they get one or two people better. And then they shout it from the rooftops. They're just like, I got this case better. I got this case better. And they want pub on it and they want, you know, media on it. And they're freaking out because they got two people better. We're talking about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands in the millions of being in wheelchairs than walking finally being on mattress island a medical medium term mattress island where you're just sick chronically ill and you're in bed and you're in bed for 10 years you get like two hours a day out of bed and and you heal because this information is so powerful you're not allowed to get too many people better in this world bottom line period if you do you're going to get some hate and that's just the way it is you know plus the topics i talk about you know it's Right now, you know how the political thing is so big.
2:27It's just political. It's just pounding the media, right? You've got the Dems, the Repubs, Conservatives, right? They're just going at it, right? Well, the thing is, is with medical meme information, I hit stuff like getting your blood drawn, you know, blood tests, how they're not good for you and why, and how to do it properly. And that stuff pisses people off. That's an entirely different type of controversial, soul, way different than just what's being pounded on the media right now. And so when people hear that stuff, they instantly go, you know, fuck you. What's he saying? Don't get your blood tested.
3:04Don't get your blood work. This guy's bad. You know, he's bad. Meanwhile, no, just listen to the information. Learn what I'm talking about and protect yourself. Save your life. Save your own life. So I think a lot of misinformation, a lot of confusion makes it difficult. but you know and then I broke the chemtrail thing many years ago got censored because of it fought through censorship fought through it it's like I piss a lot of people off by just breaking things early the whole fragrance thing air fresheners scented candles right all of that that's all my doing to actually get that information out there and when I first started working on hammering that information out there about how toxic it is people got angry because everybody was doing like self care with their scented candles.
3:49And when COVID came, everybody was doing their scented candles and lighting all their friends coming over and they had it all on the coffee table and in the kitchen. And the minute they hear me going, that stuff is so bad for you. You have no idea what that shit's doing to you. They're like, I hate this guy. I hate him. This is for my mental health, the scented candles. So, you know, the controversy is there. You either love me and you realize, oh yeah, you're right. The scented candles are probably killing me. I love this guy. Or you're not going to take my scented candles away, buddy. They're good for my self-care and I hate you.
4:22So it's in these, I'm just giving you a couple of examples. We can even go into deeper nitty gritty, but we'll talk about, I want to go into the nitty gritty. You just, you just said a couple of things and people are probably curious what you're talking about. So talk about the blood tests. Why are blood tests not good for you? What happens is the reason why somebody's sick, and this is critical to know, is because they have an immune system problem. No matter what it is, no matter what it is, if they're sick, their immune system is struggling and they go and get the blood work. You know, they get the blood drawn, but their immune system that they need to protect them so they don't get sicker is leaving their body in the vials of blood that's being drawn, right?
5:02And then the alternative health movement. Now, here's a reason why I'm hated too. This is great. The alternative health movement in the last, I'd say six years, maybe seven years, went to this whole your immune system is in your gut, right? The immune system is in your gut. Did you ever hear that before? A million times. A million times, but it's wrong. Really? It's wrong. It's dead wrong and dead wrong. How? Why? You have some immune system in your gut, some, and then they also try to make you think it's all in your intestinal tract. Your immune system is in your intestinal tract. No, it's not.
5:35It's in your bloodstream. That's where it is circulating throughout your whole body, trying to stop brain infections all the time, trying to stop you from getting sepsis. Your immune system is in your freaking bloodstream. The reason why the immune system talk came to be where it's in your gut is because of the probiotic companies, because of the money poured into all of that and the advertising and the money and the promotion and the campaigns for the whole probiotic movement to explode. They came to this decision universally that it only make sense if probiotics are helping your gut. They're helping your immune system.
6:15Your immune system's in your gut. This whole thing developed from this, right? But it was wrong. Immune system's in your bloodstream. Yes, you've got some in your gut. Yes, your lymphocytes in your lymphatic system. Yes, you've got different areas, but it's not like people think. And so you die quickly or even die slowly when you're getting your blood drawn. So you have to be really careful, especially if you're sick. If you're somebody with lupus, you're somebody with MS, you're somebody with ALS, you're somebody with Lyme disease, neurological Lyme disease, keep on getting that blood work and you're just going to be like, that's it until you're done, until you're bedridden, until you're on mattress island now and sicker than ever.
6:56Because the sicker you get when you're getting that blood drawn, you're going to go to another doctor and get more blood drawn. We don't know why you're sick. We got to send you to a specialist now. Let's draw more blood, You see? And now it's the trap. It's the trap of all time. And so when people hear this, they're like, the guy's anti-blood testing. He's a bad guy. Don't listen to this guy. And then you get hate for it. But really, the reality is, you know, you're hurting yourself, but you've got to know how not to hurt yourself. Pregnant women are getting five, seven vials, 10 vials drawn from them periodically, right?
7:29Every trimester. They're getting it drawn from them, why they got a baby in them, and that baby could be getting hemorrhagic shock from getting blood drawn, and they don't even know it, like mild hemorrhagic shock. And that's happening every day. So pregnant women should not get their blood drawn. And if they do, it should be a baby's vial and a quarter vial. And then if they need another one, then another baby-sized vial, quarter vial, they should get. But they shouldn't just keep on giving out their precious, viable, vital resource and just throwing it away. And the industry doesn't even need that much blood.
8:06And that's a whole nother story. I mean, we could be here all day talking about blood draw, but the immune system, you're sick. You got thyroid problems? No, no blood draw, like the way they want it. No way. Don't be, just be like, fine, you know, go ahead, boom, pouring that stuff out. Then you're sick. You go to another doctor, they're pouring it out. Like don't do that because if you do that, you're going to get sicker and sicker and sicker and end up bedridden or in some early grave or whatever. It's going to happen to you and it happens to people every single day. Cancer, they take blood from them nonstop.
8:39People with cancer, just keep on pulling it from them, pulling it from them, and it's ridiculous how it works. And cancer, you're fighting cancer. Your immune system is struggling, so let's keep on removing your immune system. Let's do that. And that's what people don't realize. So the system's crooked, it's bent, it's busted, and they need to actually start doing it right. They take a little bit of blood and you can get everything you ever wanted from a little bit of blood. A drop of blood, you can get whatever you want. Right. So the why is it that you're, when I go to the doctor, they are taking like 20 ,000 vials of blood.
9:15Because they're stealing the blood. The doctor isn't, but the industry is. They're stealing the blood. Where are they putting it? Exactly. You'll never know. Nobody does. That's the problem. Nobody does. I do get like, it's an exorbitant amount of blood all the time. Yeah, and you know what? You're going to be kicked down another six months in your health, six months, a year in your health, and you don't even know it. You might develop more symptoms, more conditions a year later because you're getting all that blood because it's just, and it could be slow, could be slow where you get the blood drawn, you're not going to experience those problems yet, but then it comes a year later because your immune system was removed, parts of it were removed, your Epstein-Barr started coming up.
9:53By the way, you got Epstein-Barr. Your Epstein-Barr started rising up. I do? Yeah, you do. Your Epstein-Barr started rising up. Somebody's Epstein-Barr is rising up and then we get in trouble. What is this? What's Epstein-Barr exactly? It's a virus. It's a virus that almost everybody has, but Epstein-Barr causing problems. And you know, like your thyroid, that's what's going to happen with your thyroid down the road. You're going to have this Epstein-Barr problem, thyroid and all that stuff. It's going to start kicking in. But it - Is it dangerous? I mean, it can be for some people, causes a lot of illnesses, causes a lot of problems.
10:23There's different varieties of Epstein bar, but that's the thing. There's all these women out there. They're losing all their blood. They're giving it away. It's getting taken away. Wait, hold on. I have Epstein bar? Yeah, yeah, you do. You're laughing about it. Is that date? No, no, it's nothing to panic about. Nothing to panic about. How do you know by looking at me? I know, I know. But where does that mean? Like, what does that mean I have? Like, give me a symptom. Like, why? How? You just, like, threw it out there. It means if you keep on getting blood, because we're on this blood drop thing.
10:55Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you keep on, like, unloading that blood to that degree, not being cautious, not being, like, really careful, telling your doctor, look, phlebotomist, look, just take two quarter vials. Get what you can. You know, a month from now, we'll do another two quarter vials. Are you allowed to say that to people? Yeah, of course you are. Of course you are. You can put your foot down and be like, that's the way to do it. That's it. Because if someone's a healthy person, right? Going to the doctor to get their blood drawn, nothing really happens to them. It's for the people who have like real severe illnesses.
11:26When they get their blood drawn is what you're saying is what's dangerous. It's dangerous for everybody. Because you could be somebody that's 40 years old, 45 years old. You're not quite sick yet with too many things. You've had a couple of things in the way, some symptoms here and there. And then you're like 46 or something. You've had a lot of blood drawn. You're getting all kinds of tests, you know, that year. And then boom, now you're like, I can't function. I got brain fog. I got fatigue. I'm going to this guy. I'm going to this herbalist. I'm going to this practitioner, this healer. I'm getting this done, that done.
11:57And then it's like, what's going on here? And then you end up getting a diagnosis of some kind, like autoimmune. The more blood you get drawn, the more chances you're going to get an autoimmune diagnosis. If you have an autoimmune diagnosis, you're already getting blood drawn because they're monitoring your autoimmune diagnosis. Now you're getting worse autoimmune as you go along and worse autoimmune as you go along. It's the biggest trap is the blood draw problem. Wow. That's incredible. Yeah. Tell me. And here's another thing. I'm the only one that broke this story. I'm the only one that broke this truth.
12:31And that's why I'm hated. That's why. Now you're going to see maybe five years from now, just like so much of medical medium information came to town. And it's like natural flavors we were talking about earlier. You know, MM Info, I got it out there. Now all of a sudden companies are like, we have no natural flavors in our product. You'll see that we got no this in our product. And, you know, it's MM Info that did that. Just like fruit fear. Everybody's eating fruit again. That's medical medium work. That was medical medium hardship, fighting the fruit fear in the health movement where fruit was demonic.
13:06It was evil. It was sugar. You eat fruit, you're going to get cancer. And there was that whole story about fruit. all those years in the health movement. And it took like blood, sweat, tears, medical medium info to break it and shut that down. Now the carnivore dudes are doing fruit every day with their meat. Everybody's doing fruit. Everybody's like, I love fruit. That's how it is. It's kind of like that. But the blood draw thing is gonna be big. It's gonna get real big. And then the tide is gonna turn and people are gonna be really aware of it. And all you're going to hear is quarter vial, quarter vial.
13:44I went to my doctor, asked for a quarter vial. I don't want all my immune system removed from me. And then info. And you're going to hear that pretty soon. But to get me to that point, to get to that point, it took a lot of bashings and beatings and censorship and hate, you know, happens along the way. You know, being a pioneer, that's what you get. And then it all comes out later. Right. Give me another one. Besides, okay, we talked about the flood. Tell me one other thing that is like on the cusp that's kind of not known yet, but is on that precipice. What the chemtrails really are. What is that?
14:22So here's how it works, okay? You got, in the 1960s, the world was getting trashed by chemicals because chemical factories and the chemical industry, they were releasing it into the oceans, releasing it into the rivers, into the lakes, and everything was dying. That's what was happening. And landfills too. So they couldn't keep that up, but they needed to produce more chemicals and more chemicals. There are millions of chemicals produced every year, like chemicals that aren't even used where it's just testing and let's test this chemical, let's try this chemical, let's develop another chemical and then there's byproduct of that chemical, but they have nowhere to put it.
15:06But what's interesting is, where's it all going? They're not dumping all those chemicals in the lakes and the rivers and the oceans anymore and the landfills. If they did, it's way more chemicals than they ever had in the 60s, 50s, 40s, and 30s. See? Where is it going when there's more than ever before being produced? And so I released this information about chemtrails. What's happening is there's a deal brokered, private deal, obviously, and all these chemicals are being pumped into trucks, brought to planes, filled up with containers in the planes, not in their gas tanks, you know, like people think, put up in the sky and dropped on as slowly.
15:50So you have these chemtrail planes. But right now we're in this baby stage. The baby stage is geoengineering. So you'll hear right now, like, you know, the EPA talks about we're looking into We're looking into geoengineering. And you see out there, there's some political figures. We're looking into geoengineering. It's way bigger than that. We have years and years, decades of chemicals being loaded into trucks, loaded into planes, and dropped on everybody slowly. That's how they're getting rid of it. Where are they dropping it? 20 years from now, we may know this by then. But wait, where are they dropping it?
16:26Where? Just everywhere, on everybody, worldwide. It's just being dropped. It's a different way of getting rid of it. You just fan it out in the skies all over the world. And so that's info that I've been breaking out there. It's not just geoengineering where there's some kind of private military government kind of thing doing this geoengineering where they're trying to change and manipulate the weather. And they're putting, you know, I'll bury them in the sky or whatever they're doing. Sure, a little bit of that's happening too, okay? Right. They do want to manipulate the weather, but everybody's getting wrapped up in that and not understanding to the degree of how much chem is being dropped, how many planes are dropping them all over the United States and worldwide.
17:10And so it's way bigger than anybody knows, and it's way more classified than anybody knows. It's way more. And so that's where we are with the chemtrails, but I'm really early on this, really early on this. So you'll see now people talking about chemtrails. You'll see that. I got censored when I put out my Chemtrail podcast six years ago. Yeah, I got totally censored for that. I mean, they crushed me with censorship everywhere they can. And who is they? Like, why did anybody give a shit? Like, why were they censoring the crap out of me? Who are the they? Well, that's what I mean. Yeah. But who was censoring you?
17:42Well, you got the entire monster chemical industry. Worldwide, planetary, like, monster chemical industry. Got to think about that. They're producing chemicals for every product that's everywhere, in every shape, fashion, and form. It's not just plastic. It's not just the world's made out of plastic. The chemicals that are being made and manufactured. And they can't dump it. If they dumped it into Lake Erie, it would be completely 100 % dead. If they dumped it into the ocean right now, the algae blooms would be way more worse than they are now. They can't. They can't do those runoffs anymore. They can't run.
18:19every factory, every chemical industry can't run all that stuff into the water like that anymore. They got to fan it out. They got to do that whole osmosis thing. They got to just sprinkle it about. That's the chemical industry, but we're nowhere scratching that surface. We are nowhere close to scratching that surface. Then that's the problem right now. But the good news is, the good news, don't get me wrong. I'm so glad they're talking about geoengineering because Because it's going to get us someday closer, hopefully, to those private airfields, airplanes landing in private fields, on federal lands, on private land bases all around the world, and trucks filling up these planes with chemical.
19:03It gets us closer to getting to that reality is what it does so that we could get there. So right now, when somebody talks about geoengineering, like, say, the EPA right now, that's great. It's amazing. I'm glad they're looking into everything they can, thank God, because it's going to make a change. There's a good chance. And I'm glad, like, there's states now considering, hey, let's try to stop any of this aerial spray that could be geoengineering. But it's way bigger than that. Is that why people are getting sick more? Is that— It's not helping. It's not helping with people who have asthma and all kinds of different health problems.
19:37it's not helping at all. It's a lot of metal falling out of the sky. Mercury, lead, you know, arsenic just dropping out of the sky every day. Copper dropping out of the sky. So we have all of that. And that's not even just like old nuclear fallout, radiation, other things. It's not even just all that. There's a lot of stuff involved, but the chemtrail is a mixed brew. It's not just this one brew for geoengineering and that's what they're trying to do to manipulate the weather. that's like preschool understanding right now. Preschool, like that is basic understanding. That's like 101. It's bigger than that.
20:15The brews that are coming out of different planes, it's different. Each one is different. Some of these chemicals have been batches made 50 years ago that's been like in backlogged, and they're trying to get that stuff loaded up and dropped because it's building up. And the chemical industry is a monster. That's the big one right there. And, you know, people talk about the Illuminati and they talk about the hierarchy. They're behind the chemical industry. Like, they're definitely wrapped up, tied into that. Anyway, so here's another example of information I talk about and probably why I'm hated.
20:48Yeah. I got to throw that in today. Yeah, yeah, of course you got to throw that in. This is why is AW hated, you know? This is why. So then, again, like, but how do—I know that you get your information from a spirit. Is that the whole thing? Like a spirit of compassion? Spirit of compassion. Oh, that's great. When we talk about spirit of compassion, right? So age four, I heard a voice. Age four, age four, yeah. Please tell, because I want you to give people your origin story. Absolutely. And this voice was talking about advanced medical information. And I've had to dedicate my whole life to that very thing.
21:21Like all the different bugs that people have and pathogens, different rights of pathogens, and the toxic heavy metals. Like the autism thing. Yeah, it's toxic heavy metals. thanks, because I've been talking about that for 40 years. So, you know, from spirit of compassion, that's the whole point. The mercury with Alzheimer's, you know, like all of that information, Parkinson's being toxic heavy metals, toxic copper, it all of this came to me when I was like four or five, six, seven years old. I couldn't pronounce anything, could barely, you know, say, but I would say it and get it out. By eight years old, nine years old, I was learning advanced medical information, was being trained by this voice I hear.
21:58And sure, someone might be like, oh, okay, he's not a scientist. Okay, he's not a doctor. If I wanted to be a scientist, I could have been one. If I wanted to be a doctor, I could have been one. Like people are like, he's not an MD, he's not a doctor. I could have been one. I could be one now. I could go and be one. Nothing can stop me. I could do it. But I don't want to. I hear this voice. It gives me advanced information because how else would you know about the blood draw problem? That came from the voice I hear. I didn't wake up one morning like I'm a real smart guy and be like, oh, I'm a genius.
22:32You know, yeah, this blood draw thing. I just just pulled it out of my ass. Like I'm just really, you know, I'm really smart. I'm a highly intelligent guy, you know, so maybe it's not. No, it's it's it's I hear the voice tell me the voice is like, here's how it works. Here's what's happening. Here's what's going to be a big part of taking people down with the chronic illness. It's going to be a big deal if we don't change this. So get working on it. Here's the information. Here's where your immune system is. Here's how it works. Here's how people are going to get sicker and sicker getting their blood drawn.
23:04So in all those details involved are in there. And that information is profound and it's life saving. If you're somebody with sick with autoimmune right now and you're like getting sicker, but you're getting those routine blood draws, I just saved your life. And okay, maybe not me, but the voice I hear just saved your life potentially. Would you still hear the voice? Like how often do you hear the voice? Too often. Really? Like, can you hear it like multiple times a day? Yeah. Is there like a, you can? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I hear, I hear the voice too much, but you know, but that's just the way it is.
23:41Since you're four. Since I was four. Yeah. Made life difficult, But what did it do? It created these incredible Bibles, these medical medium Bibles, information that's healed millions of people worldwide. And just for the record, more people healed than anything else in the world is medical medium information. More people healed from getting out of wheelchairs, multiple sclerosis, ALS, any kind of condition. More people healed. Children that weren't verbal, becoming verbal after doing the HMDS. Like more people getting their lives back, rising out of the ashes because of this voice I hear. Yeah, it makes me different.
24:14Yeah, sure. And then people could be like, oh, I doubt it, or I doubt this voice. Fine. You get sick, find the information. You get sick someday, you know, get on the bandwagon, learn this information, and save your own ass, save your own skin. Because this information does that for people. And that's the most profound, you know, incredible part of it. Well, let's talk about cancer, okay? Or like, or the wheel, because cancer is a big one that I think everyone's biggest fear, one of mine. and if this information is out there and people, why are people still dying of like terminal cancer if this stuff is like written in so many books?
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24:49Like, you know when people have no more hope? Like wouldn't they just, even if they didn't believe in you, wouldn't they just go to the books and, or someone would say to them, try this particular thing? You know the health scene, you know how much is out there, right? Yeah, tons. Okay, you got tons of money out there. Yeah. Tons. We're talking about billions, right? More. We're talking about, you know, really wealthy people that become influencers that come from tons of money. They go and they get, you know, campaign people, promotion, you know, people, PR firms behind them. They learn how to game the system.
25:22They run ads by the truckloads on YouTube, wherever it is, you know, the Instagram, whatever. And they run, you know, they spend a million in ads a month, but people don't realize this. Okay. Well, there's a bunch of those, and they're clogging up everything so that you just can't find your way. It's hard to find your way. And so with medical medium information, it's word of mouth because we don't do that. We don't take millions of dollars and try to dominate the entire game, the system, and try to pull that card. So this is an organic movement, but a real one of millions healed across the world.
25:59And so it's word of mouth. But word of mouth is like this. I healed, I healed doing this, you know, try this, right? I'm not running, you know, a million dollars of ads a month to try to trick people into, you know, the information. It's never like that. High integrity, it's just clear. It's just, hey, here's the info. It's in these books. Someone heals, they tell somebody else. That's how it's done. It's a big world. And what I'm trying to say is the health movement is saturated. It's really saturated right now. Okay. You got every single day, you've got another thousand individuals coming out with a new product coming out with a new podcast.
26:40There's probably 20 million health podcasts, but nobody knows they exist because they're all like, they're all like underdogs, right? They're just down there. They don't know it takes millions. They don't know it takes a lot of money. It takes advertisers. It takes all of that. They don't know how to game the system. They're not there. They're just like, I'll start a podcast tomorrow, but there's millions of them, right? But either way, the system is, the health movement is saturated. So it takes like an angel basically at this point while someone's on their hands and knees praying to God, being like, I need an answer.
27:14I got mystery chronic illness. The doctor doesn't know what's wrong with me anymore. I got 50 symptoms. And then you're walking down Barnes and Noble aisle and an angel pushes the medical medium Bible that pushes the medical medium book right off the shelf, lands on the ground, they pick it up, and they're like, what is this thing? And they open it up, and it starts to make sense, you know? MMInfo isn't common sense, because common sense isn't all right. It just makes sense. That's the difference. And they start saying, oh my God, this is me. This is me with my condition. I got the tingles and the numbness and the aches and pains and the vertigo that won't go away, the dizziness.
27:49I got the jaw pain, the back pain, the neck pain. I got all these different things going on. I got the trigeminal neuralgia. I got the migraines and the brain fog. I got the fatigue where I can't function. This has the answers. Here it is. And it takes, you know, a certain person to actually do that. And then if they say, wait, where did this come from? Oh, guy that hears a voice. I don't care. I got to heal. That's it. You know, it's like that.
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29:32So is there like some type of, is there something that people should be doing every day that we're not doing to help our health, overall health, our immune system? Yeah, they shouldn't be worried about parasites because that whole thing's a fraud. so the whole parasite game is a fraud. Big time. Wow, why? Explain it. Yeah, I'll explain it a little bit. If you get a parasite, it doesn't live with you on a monthly, yearly basis for years keeping you sick. You get a parasite and it's you're the parasite. That's it. You die or the parasite dies. So people get parasites all the time but it gets killed off by their own body all the time.
30:16You go to a restaurant, you get a bad meal, you barfed one time, you got some diarrhea, you got a parasite of some kind, got foodborne illness, you got a parasite, you got a toxic foodborne illness. Five days later, you're feeling better, you're cleaned up, you barfed a couple of times, you're getting back into action, it got killed off. If it stays there, you barf and barf and barf. It doesn't get killed off yet. You barf, you barf, you barf until you die. You end up in a hospital, you're on a salt bag. They're like, well, we don't know. It could be E. coli, sir. We don't know what it is. What did you last eat?
30:53What happened? What's going on? And you're just in agony. And then they pump morphine in you because you can't handle the pain. That's a parasite. But it's you're the parasite. You live without it or you die with it. That's how it works. People die all the time from parasites. But you can't have it both ways. You can't be living with one and sick with one for 10 years. You can't be. It's either you or the parasite. That's just how it works, right? So what are people living with? Viruses, shingles viruses, Epstein-Barr viruses, cytomegaloviruses, HHV6, HHV7, HHV9, HHV10 through HHV16, Simplex 1, Simplex 2, different varieties of Simplex 1, Simplex 2, strep, lots of different varieties of strep.
31:42They're living with all of this, and they're living with it for years. They get the thyroid nodules. That's from Epstein-Barr. They get all these different problems. That's fibromyalgia. They get autoimmune. That's from Epstein-Barr, shingles, HHV-6. And they live this life with viruses because you can live with stealth viruses for years with no problem. You can live a whole lifetime and be sick on Mattress Island, like bedridden, for 30 years, 50 years with viruses, pathogens, but not with parasites. But what happened is parasite game. It's an easy one to sell people. You got parasites. That's what it is.
32:20And here, maybe you got this kind of, maybe you got trichinella, maybe you got that, maybe you got this kind of parasite. And they're doing it to sell all the parasite cleanses and parasite products. It's another way to game the system. And that's what's happening. It's another kind of variety of fraud and it's rampant and people are buying into it. And that's the sad part. And what they'll do, they'll poach some medical medium information with it. They'll put lemon balm in it or something or cat's claw, which is MM info. Those are antivirals. So they'll take a couple of those things and stick it in a parasite formula and start gearing the parasite formula more to medical medium information, which actually heals people with Lyme disease and other problems.
33:00And then they'll kind of trick people out that way. But either way, they're still screwing them over by saying, here's a parasite formula and get rid of your parasites. No, you don't have a parasite. Now, worms are different. Worms are entirely different. Worms are separate from parasites. Worms don't necessarily ever kill you. A big old fat tapeworm, it gets too out of control. I mean, that can bring you down. But all the other basic worms, they're not killers. And people are loaded with worms and live healthy lives. to their 80, to their 90, meaning they have other problems. Yeah. And they're shitting out worms and they're pushing out pinworms and they got different kinds of, you know, different varieties.
33:44They got liver flukes from time to time. They can get worms, but worms don't stick you in the hospital on morphine with an IV saying to the doctor, you're in so much agony. I'm in so much agony. You have to cure me, doctor, please. And that's different. Those are parasites that are like either you live or you die kind of parasite. So worms, you shouldn't be, worms are not dangerous. They're not, no, they're not. Parasites are saying either you'll live with them or you get killed by them. Yeah, you know, you either have to kill them, meaning like fast. So if you're in a restaurant, you just picked up a couple of parasites.
34:27You just ate some shrimp. Yeah. Right? Yeah, and you get sick from it. Yeah, now you're in the hospital. Right, so either you'll kill them off fast and you're done, or if they live with you, you'll die from them. You'll eventually die from them because you'll get dehydrated. You'll be in too much pain. You'll lay in a hospital bed and die. And guess how many people die with food poisoning? They keep it under wraps. Those stats aren't out there. They die all the time. They die at dinner tables. They die at tables in restaurants. They die in hospitals all the time. Food-borne? Yeah, food poisoning.
35:02Food-borne pathogens, meaning illnesses that are parasitical. But you can't live long-term like that. It has to go away. It can't stay with you. You go down to Mexico, you drink some bad water, you have to heal within a timeline, or you die. That's it. You lay in a Mexican hospital, and you're on an IV, and your body has to fight and fight and fight and fight while they got you on morphine drip. You have to fight and fight until you're freed from it and then you get out of the hospital. But a lot of times you fight, fight, fight. It doesn't stop. You're still puking. You puke yourself to death in the hospital while you're on an IV and on morphine.
35:44That's a parasite. You can't live with it long-term. You can't. And so that's how it works. Okay, so parasites and worms, I understand. And why would I know all this? I'm such a genius. It comes from the voice I hear. So like today, have you heard the voice talk to you? Every day. Like do you wake up to it in the middle of the night? Does it happen? Yeah, middle of the night, a lot of times, of course. And early in the morning, you know, four or five o 'clock in the morning, I wake up and hear a spirit of compassion trying to inspire me to keep going, to still do this work, to still do the next book, to still, you know, fight the good fight for the chronic leal.
36:20Nobody has the chronic leals back. They just don't. There's a lot of great doctors out there, but in the end, it's really hard to kind of really look out for the chronically ill. And then there's the social media doctors. They're the worst, meaning because they don't practice. Right. I understand what you mean. Right? You know what I'm talking about? Yes, I do. So what it is, it's like a rich kid goes to med school, then on mommy and daddy's money, gets out of med school or whatever, chiropractic school, whatever they choose, right? And then they don't want to practice. Social media is shiny, flashy.
36:55They can use their credentials. They can get on social and start talking about stupid food facts, stupid, you know, chronically health, chronic health facts. No, right? There's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. Okay. Okay. They don't want to go into the trenches, right? Yep. Yes. You know, they don't want to go and hear people like whining and crying. They don't want to sit in an office all day long and say, okay, Mrs. Ferguson, come on in. I got your chart right here. okay, your shoulder hurts still. Did you try that drug I gave you? Or, you know, did you try that turmeric I gave you? Now, because every MD is using turmeric.
37:31It's like, they don't want to do this. It's mucky, dirty business. They don't want their hands dirty. The social media doctor is such a letdown. Absolute disgusting letdown, yeah. Yeah, that's a business in itself. And I'm not talking about some of the social doctors that had 20 years in the trenches. No, I know. They learned a lot. You know what I mean? I'm not talking about let's clear that slate now. No, but I understand. Like, I think it's a whole, I think it's a business. I have a lot of people come on the show. They don't practice anymore because they're focusing on their media and fame and all the other stuff or that stuff.
38:02And they're not really, they're not in the trenches or, like you said, doing the work, the actual work. But the medical medium books are the trenches. Their stories are there. What they've gone through. Somebody literally in the thicket of hell and what their symptoms are like and then coming out of that. And besides, I spent 30 years in the trenches. I helped people one-on-one. I was going to ask you. Hundreds of thousands. Did you do one-on-ones? One-on-ones, two offices for decades. I was in the trenches trying to help people. I worked hand-in-hand with doctors in difficult cases. So it's not like I woke up one morning and said, I want to be a medical medium.
38:40That sounds like a great idea. Let me open a social media account. No way. I mean, I just did an event at Cafe Gratitude just now where we sold out dinner. It was a book signing event. And someone walked up to me and it was a client from like the earlier 2000s. And it was unbelievable. It was an old client from the earlier 2000s. And I haven't, in the last 10 years, I haven't worked with anybody one-on-one. You know, I haven't been, I haven't done that. And, but before that, it was day in and day out. It was six in the morning till midnight, you know, six in the morning till two in the morning.
39:17like meaning all the way around seven days a week, didn't take any time off. I did this for year after year after year after year. I was in the trenches. I know what chronic illness is, but you get these kids, they go to med school, mommy and daddy pays for it. They come out, they want to just do social. They don't even want to understand it. And then they want to sell products, shit products to the chronically sick. It's disgusting. And so then, so you - Now you know why people hate me? Yeah, no, no, I'm getting a good idea. You either love me. I know. either love me. People do love you. In fact, actually, I told you this a long time ago, maybe, but years ago when you first came on, people told me some crazy stories about you because I was like, who is this guy?
39:56He sounds kind of like, like kind of a wacko, right? Like some, some spirits talking to him and like people like who were pretty legit were like, you've no idea. Like, I have to tell you, like this actually happened and that actually happened. And this is actually what happened. I'm like, really? Like, I was like, okay, maybe I should be a little bit more open-minded. And then you said a couple of things to me. Then you reached out to me, right? Yeah. Many times. You were not so easy to get. No, I was like, I don't want to go on there. I don't feel like going on. Yeah. You don't like to do a lot.
40:26I could do the circuit. I mean, I have a big enough platform where people are like, get that guy on. We get asked every day. I'm sure. It comes into our media page on my website. Can you do this podcast? Do this podcast. And I just, you know, over time, I just pick the ones that I feel like doing and that's it. but I'm glad I'm so honored that you came on my podcast. I'm honored you had me on. Okay. I love this. I think you're so fascinating because I actually am a, I'm a believer that there's something more to our world or our universe than just what we see, you know, face on. Right. Like, and so I look, I don't try to dress up like a guru.
41:02I don't try to wear, you know, clothes and fancy necklaces. I'm not doing this all day long. I mean, I hear a voice. I mean if anybody has a right to like throw a gown on and do this and just be like this 24 7 and let my hair out and act like I'm Jesus Christ I might have somewhat of a right to a degree to actually act like it but no you know I hear a voice and I try to just be you know as cool as I can and as normal as I can if that's what you call it yeah if I try to be as normal as I can yeah yeah right I love that but what I'm saying is I hear a voice there's people in spiritual retreats all the time.
41:40They're like, oh my God. Like talking about the universe and everything else and everything spiritual. I hear a voice since age four. Millions have healed because of it. And I'm like walking around like, da-da-da-da-da. Like what? Jennifer, you want me on? Oh yeah, sure. I'll be there. I love that. What does the voice sound like, first of all? And do they know your name? Do they say, hey, Anthony, you know, here I am again today on, you know. I told the voice, stop saying my name. Long time ago, stop saying my name. What do you hear? I tell the voice, say A-W. Call me A-W. And the voice doesn't call me A-W.
42:12But I tell the voice. You hear an actual, is it a boy voice or a girl voice? It's an actual voice I hear and it's not in my head. I wish it was. What, it's not in your head? I wish it was. Where is it? It's on the outside. You actually hear a voice? It's on the outside. So I could block it and I hear it mostly in the right ear. Do you hear, is it a boy voice, a man voice? It's a man's voice, yeah. And let me ask you a question. How acting? I mean, and listen, it's a man's voice because maybe that's what I needed it to be, you know, for it to work on me. For me to be like, I will dedicate my life to doing this, you know?
42:48And the big turnaround for me, the big turnaround was when I was young and my dog was drowning and drowning in a very cold, deep river. and I jumped in and the voice I heard, Spirit of Compassion said, if you go any further, you're done. That's it, you're gone, right? And I was like, you know, I'm not gonna swear too much on this episode. It's okay. I was like, screw you. You know, I dedicated my life. You want me to dedicate my life to this? I've already worked on so many people and worked with so many people. I'm already spreading the information. I was much younger and I was like, I was like, I need my dog.
43:27I can't let my dog drown. You should be able to help me with this. And I dove in, and it was basically suicide. And I got way out there, and my dog went down. And it was the scariest thing, but I knew. And when I got out there, I was starting to numb up, and I knew there was no turning back. I was already too numb. It was that cold. It was like 30 degrees kind of water. And then I went down, saw my dog in an angel's arms, and I reached over, the angel handed my dog over, I grabbed the collar on my dog, and my dog August, and I pulled the dog up, and I got to the surface, and then it was the second time I saw Spirit of Compassion ever, the second time, because I only saw Spirit of Compassion once when I was four years old.
44:17And then I got to the surface of the water and Spirit of Compassion was on top of the water, just standing there and said that basically that angel is not going to wait for you. You only have a few seconds to get back. Because it wasn't Spirit of Compassion that was saving me and my dog. It was an angel that did it. SOC wasn't saving my life. SOC was telling me, you basically got, you were given this gift. An angel heard your cry. you got just a few seconds to get back. And I dragged my dog through that deep water, got to the shore, crawled on the shore and, and survived, you know, with the dog, without the dog, with the dog.
44:59It was in that. And then I told spirit of compassion, I'm yours. That's it. I'm going to dedicate my entire existence, hell or high water problems, censorship. Like I deal with all the time. I'm the only one censored on X right now. I mean, that's what I believe anyway, because unless someone else knows they're censored on X, but I'm still, I'm censored on X. Like what? I'm shocked. I thought that for sure, like Elon Musk would like love you. Yeah. I don't know him personally. I don't know him personally. So, but yeah, I'm censored on X. It's ridiculous. So Twitter censored me a long time ago.
45:33I was rising up on, on Twitter real fast. I mean, people and everything. I was like, I was cruising on Twitter And then somebody in Twitter just said, censor this guy, right? And that's what they did. And then when Elon opened up the floodgate, nobody censored anymore, you know? Yeah, exactly. You know, bring Donald Trump back on, you know? No one censored whatever it was. I stayed censored. Still censored on X. It's unbelievable. Who knows? Maybe it's just the way the system was set, and there's not an engineer talking to me to say, look, let's un-glitch this. Twitter glitched you. Let's un-glitch it.
46:10You know, but I don't know any engineers on Twitter to actually take their time and be like, let's actually try to fix this for you. You know what I mean? And that's just how it works. What's interesting is besides the blood, I mean, most of the stuff that you provide, though, is not hard. I mean, people, I guess, would say some of the things are harmful if you don't have a medical degree. Well, you know what it is? If they don't study the information, they don't really look at the information properly. They don't read it. They don't take their time. They're never going to really understand it.
46:38So they're going to take like somebody else's, that medical medium said do this. And, you know, people run with it, you know. But how, in your experience, what's the accuracy rate that you've had? Do you know? Have you ever like thought about the accuracy rate? I mean, the amount of people healed, the track record is insane. Right. I mean, insane. But have you ever, has the spirit of compassion ever been wrong that you've remembered? I mean, I'm wrong, but Spirit of Compassion isn't. What have you been wrong about? I got my own thoughts. I got my own, you know, I don't put them in the book. It's all SOC of the book.
47:17So all that information is only SOC. I can't put my opinion in the book. I can't be like my separate self, you know? You can't. And be like, well, what if jumping in an ice tub of ice is a good thing for you? You know, ice plunging, cold plunging, whatever you want to call it. maybe it is good for you. Like, you know what I mean? Like innocently saying that. And then SoC will be like, it's not, you know, if you've got chronic illness, if you've got a sensitive central nervous system, you can't be sitting in that, you know, that cold water. You will, your immune system will drop. Right. And so, and by the way, I talked about that.
47:52And then some of the influencers are like, yeah, you know, if you're a woman, you know, that's my information. If you're a woman, you might want not want to do the cold plunging because it might not be good for you. You're different than men. That's medical meme information. You know, people follow all my info and everything. And so they take that. But, you know, but me, I could be like, wake up one morning as Anthony William and be like, yeah, maybe I should cold punch. Maybe it's the smart thing to do. Maybe it is good for you. And then SOC says no. And so in the books, it's all SOC. My own personal life, yeah, I could walk down the sidewalk and make my own choice and try to go this way and trip on a curve and be like, oh, fuck, I just fell.
48:35You know, I have my own free will. It wasn't taken from me. Right. But when it comes down to the hardcore stuff, get healing, moving forward, people healing, chronically ill healing, recovering. Yeah, you know, I'm going to listen to SOC. I'm going to get those words and I'm going to make sure they're in the books right. And I'm going to make sure it's done right. But me, sure, I can wake up in the morning and be like, let me drink this old coconut water that's been out for three days and be like, Oh, it's fermented, you know, because I got my own opinion, my own opinion, my own free will. I can do what I want to do to a degree, but SOC, it's different, you know, like fermented food.
49:14People think it's good for you. It's not good for you. I would have thought it's amazing for you. Me personally would have thought it's incredible. It's ancient. Fermented food's got to be good for you. Got to be good for your gut. And SOC says, no, it's dead. It's not. It's death. It's not good for your gut. Any kind of microorganism within fermented food is for death. That means if a body dies and starts decaying, like even a piece of meat, piece of flesh, stick it outside on the ground, and the microorganisms are death-based ones. So if you ferment meat, it's death-based ones. That's not living ones, you see?
49:55Fermented food is not good for you. It's SOC's information. I've published it. I put it in the books. And by the way, I do have some credentials. I'm a number one New York Times bestselling author. Multiple, right? Multiple. And just so you know, yeah, led the way in my publisher for many years. How many books have you sold? Number one. And a lot of books sold around the world. Because I know you do like business stuff and all that stuff too. Yes, yes, yes. I'd like to know these things. In the millions and millions. How many? We want numbers. And that is rare. We want numbers. How many have you sold?
50:30Like 10 million books? 10 million books? 5 million books? 2 million books? 1 million? 20 million books? 30 million books? It's a lot. It's just a lot. But the bottom line is, and guess what? People are going to ask. 30 million books? Would you say? A lot of million books. And check this out. A lot of million books. Check this out, okay? Yeah. It's rare. Very rare. And guess what? Yeah. Done without advertising campaigns, no promotional companies, no PR firms, nothing. And no of the whole thing where there's the services. You're an author and you got money. You can buy a$500 ,000 program and they'll ship out all your books.
51:09They'll do your books and they'll get you in NYT, right? None of that. All integrity, clean. Nobody knows the biz out there. I know the business. You know the business? Trust me, I know the business. All of it is organic. All of it is really, really grassroots. Why? Because I'm a nice guy? Because people like me? No, no. Because people freaking healed and got their lives back. People that were really sick. Because you're not going to a guy called the medical medium to fix your problems. You're going to go to your freaking doctor. But you come to these books because you're on your last, you know, thing.
51:43And you realize this was the answer and you heal. And that's why there's that many books that were sold out there in the world. No, it's true. Funnily enough, I mean, most people don't understand the business behind the business. No, they don't. Which is a total racket. And I'm sorry to tell everybody, okay, every health book in the future that you buy out there, not mine, but every health book you buy is going to be a jarbled bunch of shit written by AI. No author in the health movement will ever write a book again, okay? And it's going to be a jumbled bunch of crap, but I'm just letting you know that's what it's going to be.
52:17and these books, no.
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54:15you didn't answer the first question i asked you which was what it sounds like i got a big ego today no it's okay it's okay i think i think it's endearing what is the one thing that people should be doing for their health every day that they're not yeah you didn't answer the question yeah they got to keep the fats low that's one thing that's critical fats okay everybody's fatting themselves to death. I'm not talking about like people gaining weight and obesity. I'm not talking about that. What are you talking about? I'm talking about everybody's fatting themselves to death because every meal has fat in it.
54:44Oh, okay. It's just overt fat everywhere. They're burning their liver down. They're beating their liver down. They're tiring it out. They're thickening up their bloodstream so their immune system can't fight the fight because all that fat gets in the way. They're getting insulin resistance because they got so much fat in their bloodstream. They're just like fataholics. Throw some salt in there. Now they're salt fataholics. So we should be saying, wait, are you a proponent for animal protein then or not? Yeah. Yeah. Animal protein and plant-based. Both. So medical medium info is for both. You can do animal protein.
55:17You can do protein. By the way, protein-based. Yeah. You're welcome. Protein-based? Not absolutely. Protein-based, animal-based, right? Protein-based, yes, yes, yes. You know how people say protein-based? Yeah. You know, they used to just say meat eater. Yeah, but now there's so many other ways you can eat protein. Animal base is what they say. Yeah, animal base. You're welcome. Yeah. Oh, you say that? Is that because of you? Yeah. And now they've all taken it. They've all taken it. So animal base is plant-based and it was meat eater. You're plant-based and meat eater. That's it. So you believe in both?
55:47Yeah, yeah. But you're saying not to eat fat, but then are you talking like salmon has a lot of fat, almond butter has a lot of fat? Yeah. What are you saying to - You're chronically sick. You keep on doing the high fats like that. You're just going to go - So what should we be eating every day? You got to keep it down. You got to lower it. You can be on animal protein, but you got to kind of like get it in check. You got to do it at the end of the day, maybe once a day. You can be plant-based and doing lots of avocado. Maybe do it at the end of the day or something or some avocado. You can be plant-based.
56:17You want to do some nuts and seeds? Maybe do it at the end of the day or every three days. Same thing with animal protein. Maybe if you're really sick, you do animal protein every three days, right? Because it's fat. It's animal fat. That's your animal protein. So wait, wait, okay, wait. I have a question for you. I got a bunch, but how about vitamin D? Everyone's like, you know, that's like, there's all these things that people say you must be doing, like vitamin D every day, creatine every day. You know, I totally destroyed the whole 50 ,000 I use a vitamin D thing. No, I did not know this. Yeah, you don't even hear.
56:46It's like, it's crickets now. Okay, tell me, what did you say? I said, don't do 50 fucking thousand I use a vitamin D because it's not a good idea. Vitamin D is fine. I thought it's 5 ,000, isn't it? No, no. They're just, they've been pumping 50 ,000 for years. You know, 30 ,000, the whole bit for years. It was the big thing for like a decade. Now it's like, Crick, it's like 50 ,000 I use? Chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. It's no one says it anymore. That's because I really got that one cleaned up. So don't be having the vitamin D every day. No, you can have it every day, but keep it down to 1 ,000, you know?
57:21Was that kind of overrated also? Overrated, totally overrated. You can take all the vitamin D you want and still be bedridden, still be chronically sick. It's a good thing to do, but you can still be sick. You can still lose your life. You can still die of chronic illness, mystery chronic illness. You can take all the vitamin D you want. But yeah, it's fine to do. I'm not anti-vitamin D. I think it's fine. It's just, it's overrated. It's one of those things that doesn't fix the problem. What about omega-3s every day? What about, is there any supplement that is necessary? Plant-based omega-3s, you know, that's a great thing.
57:54omega-3 still isn't the big fix-all either. You know, you can be somebody that you can take all the omega-3s you want. You can still have fibro, neurological Lyme. You can be sick for 30 years, have multiple sclerosis. You can have tingles, numbness, aches, and pains and dizziness all the time. You can have jaw pain and brain fog and migraines and take all the omega-3 you want and you ain't coming out of it. Okay, so is there any particular supplement that you think is a must or do you think, what do you think, is there anything we should be doing every day? B12 is critical. I'm just giving you one.
58:25Okay, there's a bunch. B12. B12 is critical. Okay, what about the sauna? We talked about the - Just so you know, there's an anti-B12 thing right now. You're starting up, you know. There is. You're like, you don't need your B12. You can get it from your food and all that. Meat eaters are desperate for B12. Meat eaters, they can't get it from their food. They can't. Plant-based people, they can't get enough from their food. You do have to supplement it in the world we're in. It has to be the right B12, but you have to supplement it in the world we're in. so everyone should be taking b12 everybody should be on b12 okay because metacobalamin adenosilcobalamin everybody should be on that blend what does it do It's for the nervous system.
59:03it's for every cell in the body, it's for the brain, it's critical. If you got chronic illness and you're not on the right B12, like a good B12, you're losing out. You're losing out. Like it's the one thing that you can see a result really, really, really fast with is B12. Like if you're somebody that's been bedridden for a while and you're not on B12 and you start taking a good high dose of it, you can start all of a sudden being like, oh my God, I can move my shoulder. you got a way to recover but i i could i can move and i could think a little bit like it's unbelievable what happens yeah b12 is that important wow and right now there's like whatever's left of the plant-based movement because the animal-based movement crushed it there's nothing left of it yeah it's really sad there's barely anything left of the vegan movement plant-based movement and i was never just on that side my books are medical medium be a vegan medical medium right plant-based is your only hope right i was never that i was always like on both sides of the aisle where you want to do meat let's do it right you want to do chicken let's do it right let's heal but use all the medical medium tools while you're doing your meat but what happened is the animal-based world which they call animal-based now because of mm term it's it's crushing the plant-based movement and the youth the young people in their 20s you know, teens and 20s, early 30s are not even going plant-based.
1:00:29They're just going all, they're just staying all animal, right? That's the movement and where it's going. Well, because everything now is about protein, protein, protein, and muscle and protein and longevity and the biohacking. What's your take on the whole biohacking phenomenon, the longevity space? Sure, sure. The biohacking phenomenon is a death trap for somebody who's chronically ill. It's just for guys that didn't get sick yet. You know, they didn't get sick. They didn't have enough exposures. They don't have enough viruses. They don't have enough metals. They were born into this world with less heavy metals because their parents had less heavy metals.
1:01:05So they're, you know, maybe they weren't injured by a vaccine. Maybe they're, whatever it was, they, they, they're in a place that's okay enough, right? Yeah. Where they're just, they're, they got the athletic thing going on. They're not sick yet and they can do the biohacking thing. They can hop in a nice bath. They can go and do this. They can go try it. They can put some diodes on their head. They can take whatever they're taking, right? And they can play the game of, I'm the longevity guy. I'm longevity. I'm going to live to be 150. That's my goal. Here, I'm trying this and trying this. Get a lot of likes and clicks.
1:01:36And, you know, they can play that game, sure. But if they were chronically sick and they were doing what they were doing, bye. See you later. Really? Yeah. Do you think that the sauna, though, is one biohacking? The infrared sauna has always been great. That's not a biohack. That is not a biohack. There's biohack. That's just a wellness thing. It's a wellness thing that's been around since infrared started. For 100 years. I understand. But you think the spiritual of compassion likes that one too, right? Well, properly. Don't go in there and cook yourself if you're somebody that's sensitive. Go in there and set it for 45 minutes at the highest heat.
1:02:16Yeah, you'll be sick. You'll get yourself really sick. You can hurt yourself with an infrared sauna badly. But yeah, you've got chronic illness. You've got neurological problems. You've got weaknesses, immune system compromises. Go in there for 10 minutes with a little bit of heat on. Don't go in there and bake yourself like a clam. No, there are people who actually don't think the infrared is hot enough. So now it's up to 220, those ones, like the real finished ones. That's where we go into now, biohacking bullshit. Yeah, that's the level of biohacking bullshit. What do you think of those? Not good.
1:02:49Terrible. Terrible. Because you'll have this guy who's got a lot of muscle, didn't get sick yet. Maybe he's in his late 20s. He's going to go there and push the temp real high. And then you get some petite girl that's got like migraines. She's got like a vagus nerve problem, right? Yeah. Low immune system. Had a bunch of blood pulled out of her. She's going to go in there. I really like this guy who's such a strong biohacker. And maybe he's got the answers. Let me go in there. Right. So it's not right for everybody. It's just not right. Okay, so that's what, I mean, that's, okay, I understand.
1:03:24Okay, I got to ask you some stuff from this book because I wrote some stuff. I mean, we can talk all day. I know. It's just, you know. We can talk. I can talk to you all day. I mean, we can't scratch the surface of medical medium information. No, listen, there's so much. But just because it was this book that kind of instigated you being back on the show, I wanted to talk to you about a few foods, okay? All right, all right. But I can't remember every word in that book from SOC. It's got 200 ,000 words. Mangoes. Can we talk about mangoes? Do you remember? They're so good for people. Do you remember anything?
1:03:54I'm going to read this. I want to read this, okay? Yeah. Mangoes are life-changing when it comes to our emotional health. Not only do they— The glucose to the brain from mangoes is a big deal. This is a big one, right? Not only do they uplift your mood, they can alleviate depression and several seasonal affective disorders. They're especially healing for anyone who feels abandoned, cut off, forsaken and outcast or shunned detached lonely hurt left out or let down you gotta love you gotta love a spirit of compassion that's all i can say yeah this is crazy like where that's just crazy you didn't write this the spirit of compassion wrote this how am i gonna write that i didn't i barely got out of high school i don't have a college education well how did i don't use ai it's word for word from spirit of compassion these are highly intelligent medical books It's medical medium science.
1:04:46This is a case where it says, when we eat them, the fruit, I can't even say without my glasses, but the fruit reorientates us, changing our direction, opening us up to more opportunities to experience joy, which ultimately helps us connect to our destiny. All from a mango? Is that true? Yeah, yeah. Not from a piece of mango. Not from a supplement that has a speck of mango in it. How about dry mango? Okay, this is what I'm trying to say. And that's the confusion here, right? There's these like dumb fruit and vegetable compilations out there. Okay. That are like supplements, but you're getting, and there's also dumb herbal ones too.
1:05:24And there's like a speck of something, like a speck of burdock fruit, a speck of mango, right? No, I'm talking about a real mango. No, no, but check this out. Check this out, right? And they do these compilations and these pills. You don't get anything from that. You can't get anything from a speck of anything, but check this out. The mango, you're talking about eating a mango. You're talking about not just one, and you're not doing a mango on top of a cheesecake. I'm not talking about mixing those. If you learn how to eat to heal, like truly eat and heal, right? The right way. And you do mangoes on the right way, miracles happen.
1:05:59And that's the stuff you're reading right there. Really? You eat a mango before bed, you sleep better. Like the miracles that happen. I love, well, the reason why I stuck on the mango was because I'm obsessed with the mango. I eat like a bag of dried mangoes a night. I love them. Like real mango. Dried fruits a little. But it's the real thing. It's just, I don't, it's not, no added sugar. It's just the mango that was dehydrated like that. I know. You gotta be careful though. You gotta try not to do too much of that. I love it though. You know, the dried fruits are like this. You gotta be kind of careful.
1:06:31Dates are different. Okay, tell me. They don't really dry them too often. They let them naturally dry. Okay. It's a different process. You know, they come kind of, they're kind of moist, wet, juicy. When you come off a tree, you eat a date, it's like juicy. It's like the juice will run down your hands. It's actually bizarre. You go to the store, there's no juice in them. You open them up, right? They're still better. They're still better. But when you go to dried fruits, dried mango can be okay. You just can't eat a ton of it because it takes longer to break it down in its dried state. So now you've got a big hunk of mango sitting in your gut.
1:07:03It's not breaking down as fast as it needs to. So you've got to pace yourself. I can't. Chew it good. Chew it good. Make sure it really breaks down in your mouth enough. And then you're okay with dried mango. Really? And make sure there's no sulfur in the fire. Yeah, no sulfur. But so you don't get the same benefits with the dried mango as a regular mango that has. You get some. But not. Some. But how does it help your emotional state? Like what does it do to your brain? Is it because of the high sugar? There's something called the emotional centers of the brain. I wrote about that from SOC in the Brainsaver books.
1:07:34Okay, yeah. Unbelievable books, the Brainsaver books. Talk about what's in that. My God, it's all about metals in the brain, how they become alloys. So people don't realize that - That's the one we talked about last time. When you're under stress, your brain heats up. And when your brain heats up, it can actually, because microscopic levels like septo and octo of metal, it can actually transform in your brain and shift and shape shift in your brain. You got mercury, you got aluminum, you got copper in your brain. it can actually meld together, creating an alloy, a toxic, toxic heavy metal alloy in the brain, right?
1:08:11And heating of the brain from your electrical impulses and stress. Somebody pisses you off. They text you, somebody, you get some problem breaking up in a relationship. Maybe you're in an abusive relationship. Maybe you're just miserable and you're under so much stress. Your brain's constantly under fire. Electrical impulses are heating everything up. And then you got all these different components of mercury, aluminum, copper, lead. And then all of a sudden that stuff just starts to meld together because it can melt together under that kind of heat because it's so microscopic, the metal, it's malleable at a low temp.
1:08:45And I talk all about it in Brain Saver, right? And these alloys make it so now your OCD is worse than ever. How many people got OCD out there? Tons. Probably me. Suffering from OCD, like real bad OCD, the kind where you can't even like, you can't even get out of a room. You can't even get out of a room, right? You can't open up the refrigerator, that kind of OCD, because you got, when you close your refrigerator, you think you close it a thousand times. Or the OCD that a lot of people freak out about where it's not really that. It's not about light switches and stoves. I'm like, dude, it's a lot about stoves and light switches and door locks.
1:09:19It is. But it's also, there's so many varieties of OCD about thoughts and repeating thoughts. I could go on forever for OCD. I just don't want the OCD police going after me. No, no, no. He doesn't understand OCD. Hate him, hate him, hate him. That's right. But while you're talking about OCD, can you tell us what someone can do if they are listening? Getting the medals out. OCD is the repetitive hitting of an electrical impulse going through neurons and slamming into a pocket of metal and then going back the other way. it can't go through it hits and goes back the other way and when it goes back the other way another electrical impulse with the same thought, the same thought is you know I want to kill myself or some other thought somebody has that's just taking over and there we go, that electrical impulse has that thought in it and it comes down and it slams into the other electrical impulse they hit together and then another one comes down and they hit together, but they can't push through because they're hitting a pocket of alloy or mercury or a pocket of metal.
1:10:30And they're hitting this and that's OCD. Finally, you go into this fever heat. You go into this healing crisis. And at two o 'clock in the morning, all of a sudden, your body shuts down, your brain shuts down, and you go to sleep. You shut down because eventually that electrical impulse had to find a new route. You wake up in the morning, it starts all over again or later on that day. That's OCD, right? That's information that's so advanced. Nobody can touch that information. I'm proud of it. It's SOC's information. I can never come up with any of that, but it's life-saving because then you learn how to take the metals out.
1:11:04How do you take the metals out? The right kind of heavy metal detox, not the bullshit out there. The right kind that works. And we got a track record of so many people getting their lives back. That's the difference right there. Okay. Tell me what the right, not chelation. Is that the kind? You got to have five ingredients. They got to be working hand in hand together or throughout the day. You got to have a spirulina, a good spirulina. You got to have a barley grass juice powder, not a barley grass, a barley grass juice powder. Got to have a cilantro. You got to have dulse, Atlantic Coast seaweed, sea vegetable, dulse, and you got to have wild blueberries.
1:11:37Got to have those five. Has to be throughout the day or it has to be all in one thing or in a bowl or something with other fruits, but you've got to have that. Check out medical medium information, learn how to get the metals out, get rid of your OCD, get rid of your depersonalization, your bipolar diagnosis, get rid of your suffering, get the metals out of your brain. And just so you know, metals being the cause of all those things are original medical medium information. And that's the other incredible thing all in its own. I don't want anybody thinking of, oh, that information must have been out there since he's talking about it.
1:12:14No, it is our information, SOC's information. How often does somebody be drinking this concoction? Every day. Every day? Or a couple times a week or every other day. Whatever they can do, maybe make it smaller if you don't want to make it bigger, but just you've got to start and move your life forward. Millions have, and they've gotten their lives back. I didn't get this far because of PR campaigns and bullshit book scams and all kinds of stuff that they're all doing. I got this far from putting this information and people healing with this information out there. Okay, I have one for you because I know this is something that's very hot right now.
1:12:50Uh-oh. Yeah, ADHD, ADD. Is there any kind of—is there any type of— Such an easy one to fix. Yeah, how do you fix ADHD? So just the heavy metal detox, the medical meme, heavy metal detox. Such an easy one to fix. That one's just the same one as the OCD? So ridiculously easy. Throw in some celery juice. Properly done. You got to look up medical meme information. But throw in some celery juice, heavy metal detox in there. Learn about maybe the medical medium morning cleanse where you're keeping the fats out away from the morning. And do some lemon water in the morning. ADHD. Kiss it goodbye. See you later, alligator.
1:13:26Such an easy one. And that's the whole point is you're not allowed to heal that many people. And we've done that. and that's why I'm still censored in places and that's why people do hate me because they don't understand the loyalty, the amount of people that have healed, the people that speak good about medical. They just can't put their finger on it. I'm not an MD. They don't understand it. The social media, like the social media doctors that never practiced before, they get on social. They just talk shit. They don't get it. Meanwhile, they never got one person better in their whole career. It's information that changes lives.
1:14:06Basically, let's say people are drinking this concoction for ADD, right? And including celery juice. How long does it take to see some type of... It could be days for a lot of people. The brain fog starts to lift. It could be, and then all of a sudden the brain fog is lifting. Now ADD, ADHD is starting to lift. You know, it could be a couple of months. Somebody could have so much metal in there where it's not just ADHD. It's ADHD plus some bipolar, plus some mania, plus a little bit of schizo. Like, you know, it could be everything. And then you start knocking them one at a time. Like, my depersonalization is better.
1:14:40Schizophrenia is getting better. Hey, my ADHD just got better. Like, you know, my OCD is getting better. And it all depends. But you chip away because this world's death by a thousand cuts. And there's so many traps and sneers and potholes out there for everybody right now. And it's a game right now. The health movement is such a game. It's actually sickening. But, you know, just got to put your big boy pants on and take it one day at a time. So do you don't believe in chelation? Is that the thing that's called when they pull it out of you? Yeah, until the medical medium information changed the term.
1:15:13It's called heavy metal detox. That's MM, starting from the start. They never called heavy metal detox, heavy metal detox. That's MM info. And it's worldwide now. That's my term. It started so many years ago. They used to call just chelation, chelation, and they usually just did it for lead. That's it. They did it for lead for children that ate paint chips. That's all that was. It was chelation for lead for paint chips for children. Medical medium heavy metal detox is the term. Yep. And I've been doing that stuff and getting out there for 40 years. That's right. Wow.
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1:17:19what about anything else like is there like a like a watermelon anything specific fruit food wise that you think everybody should be eating every day try to grow a mulberry tree get yourself a mulberry tree did you plant one here no you gotta a mulberry tree yeah plant one here, get some mulberries growing, go out there and pick some mulberries, you know. Really? Yeah. Why? Before you go out to your appointments and go out to go do this. Really? Before you go out and do that. Before you hop on your treadmill. Yeah. Before you start doing your work. Go outside and do it. Before you shop online for different clothes.
1:17:57Go outside and pick some mulberries. Why? Because they're loaded with the antioxidants that make a difference. They got trace minerals in them that are critical. The roots go deep into the earth. The other one is wild blueberries. Get some wild blueberries. I eat tons of berries. Wild blueberries? No. Berries suck. Wild blueberries? That's the key. Berries are great. They don't suck that bad. They just don't move the needle entirely. They don't do what a wild blueberry and a mulberry can do, especially a wild blueberry. Whoa, those are a whole other thing too because they're removing so many metals from the brain.
1:18:32It's just such a great thing. Really? So let's say I had a smoothie every day with just wild blueberries. Don't put almond butter in there and coconut oil and cacao. No, no. You know, the cacao in there and the chocolate in there. No. Don't destroy your smoothie. Do something like clean and pure. Like what? Tell me what to do. Throw some wild blueberries in there. Maybe if you want a couple of bananas in there, throw, you know. Protein powder? Protein powder? Could I do that? All that crappy natural flavor crap and everything else in there? What if it's a good protein powder? What's a good protein powder?
1:19:02I love Momentus. Have you tried it? What's on the ingredient list? I can show it to you. They're third-party tested. They're NSF certified. They are supposed to be one of the cleanest ones out there. But we don't do anything with straight protein. No, but you put it in a smoothie or yogurt or whatever. No, I mean, straight protein doesn't do anything for the body. Like if you just isolated protein and had somebody on that as a diet for about three months, they would look like a Holocaust victim. That's probably true. It is true. So you know what happens is that protein isn't like the answer. That whole protein thing is a whole other problem on its own.
1:19:41So I just made 10 more friends. Or did I just lose 10 more friends? I just lost a bunch of friends. It's fantastic. You lost a lot of friends. You know what? I still have to say. You know what, though? Those friends, five years down the road, will start hearing every day that protein isn't what we thought it was. I just had a whole podcast about this. There you go. Protein has been so, it's like the trend right now. It's all about protein. Are people just over-protein themselves? I talked about it 10 years ago in the medical medium books before anybody even uttered it. Yeah, I mean, people are just over-protein themselves.
1:20:13Protein isn't the answer to really fix anything. It doesn't fix chronic illness. You get sick or have a symptom, protein makes it worse. It just makes it worse. Why? Whether it's plant protein, like whether it's beans and just all bean protein, whether it's just all and only pea protein, whether it's just animal protein, If you're focused on just protein only and you're sick, you're going to get sicker. Because there's no real glucose. There's no living water. There's no trace minerals. There's the things that actually heal you. There's the things that you need to recover your central nervous system, your vagus nerves.
1:20:44You sit there like messing with protein all the time when you get sick. That's another trap. You're just going to go down the road, you know. But what you do, you've got proteins naturally in everything. Anyway, the mango has protein in it. Spinach has protein in it. All the leafy greens, arugula has protein in it. You know, you can get protein virtually everywhere in anything. You don't need to do the powders and hammer on like isolated factory-made protein. I don't care if it's third-party tested.
1:21:17All right, I think I tortured you enough on this episode. Wait a second. I've got one more question about— You're going to need like Dr. Spock to give you a mind meld of some kind And it gets you back into the trends and the biohacks. No, but you said, oh yeah, this is what I wanted to ask for the food. All this controversy over spinach, tomatoes. Yeah, I pretty much cleaned up the controversy on tomatoes pretty much. Like people in the health movement never even went near a tomato because of nightshades. Yeah. I pretty much destroyed that. People were eating tomatoes again by publishing all the information about - So tomatoes are good for you again.
1:21:51Oh, amazing for you. What, it's just an incredible food for you. How about spinach? Oh, it's so good for you. raw yeah but you know raw spinach is so good there's a medical medium spinach soup people swear by it helps them gets their brain back gets electrolytes to their brain trace mineral salts to their brain spinach soup is beautiful but cooked spinach isn't my favorite it's raw spinach that's the key okay you get all the you get all the people to worry warts about you know oxalic acid oxalates all that stuff it's just they've been given misinformation and that's the problem you know, between that and pearl powder and collagen crap and colostrum, which is bullshit and doesn't fix anybody.
1:22:29They're just taking it from the baby, baby calves, right? All of that is just doesn't work, you know, and people are just stuck in all these traps and that's one of them. Wow. Okay. So I can ask you a bazillion questions. So from what I got, that's why the most powerful people in the world, except for Elon Musk reached out to me and like, I need to ask you like 50 questions and I'm on the phone for like ever. Tell me, what's the next one? what's the next one what's the next one they're like my mind's blown i can't believe well we can send this to elon must so say you want to be back on on x and then he should uncensored i want it working i'm on x it's just not working okay well there you go maybe he'll hear it and maybe he'll take off the glitch that twitter once put on many years ago maybe where they just stopped it they just stopped it stranger things have happened you have you have a spirit talking to you every day i think that yeah if that can happen every day then maybe elon can help you you never know you never know but so far mulberry tree and everyone should have a mulberry tree yeah they should um we talked about acd uh it should be a wild blueberries wow oh wild blueberries not blueberries not the blueberries in the pint-sized clamshell you know plastic container where it's just an organic blueberry frozen doesn't do a lot yeah of course that's that's the way to get that's okay frozen wild blueberries do you know what's really weird or strange funny is that like you became like super well-known because of...
1:23:47I'm a household name. Because of celery juice. Unfortunately. Yeah, well... Well, no, no. I'm also a household name from people healing around the world. Well, but the mainstream people. Heavy metal detox, that actually... Heavy metal detox. It's a big one. Isn't that, like, was celery juice... Is that what the claim was, that celery juice was... Well, here's the problem with celery juice, okay? Yeah. So here's the problem, right? Yeah. The problem is, before the health industry turned into a total money-making, like, marketing machine, where it's a dog-eat-dog world, like I was explaining before.
1:24:17Before that happened, everybody was like, yeah, celery juice, it's healing me. And then every single supermodel and every single influencer decided to wake up one morning and say, I'm going to bank and I'm going to sell my own shit. And then they're like, I'm not talking about the celery juice no more because no one makes a penny off of it. Barely the farms do. But you can't keep celery in stores. There's like thousands of new farms. It's the number one freaking herb selling. It is a worldwide phenomenon, and people are drinking it every day, but you don't hear a peep. Because if you start squealing about it, it brings me up, and no one's being paid.
1:24:56You know what I mean? They're not being paid for talking about me, you know? So that's one reason. The other reason is nobody can make money. They can't bank off of it. But there's a million companies making celery juice, though. Yeah, but it's not a big banker. There's not a big margin. There's not a big, like, you can't rule. It's just people make it at home. Yeah, they make it at home. And it's also, you have all these rules around it, right? Like, you can't make it. What is it? Like, you can't have it. Don't put lemon in there. You can if you want. You can put lemon in there if you want, if you're not going to drink it otherwise.
1:25:26What was the other one? If you're somebody that's, like, headstrong, you could put lemon in there. If you're somebody that's headstrong, put apple in there. Somebody that doesn't like the flavor, put some apple in there. You can do that. But it had to be fresh or 24 hours. I remember all these, like, rules around it. Yeah, you want to drink it fresh. you know and you want to strain it after you juice it you want to drink it pretty soon but not just that you want to drink enough of it you don't want to just eat celery and think you're gonna fix yourself you know i mean i can't the whole thing with the dietician thing when celery juice exploded and i was like moot like all of a sudden everybody knew who i was whatever yeah everybody what happened was dieticians came out there was like a hundred media articles on me this guy hears a voice.
1:26:07He's not a doctor. He's not an MD, right? Just hundreds of them everywhere. And all these dieticians, they would get on there in the articles and the dieticians would be like, you really need to eat celery. Juicing it doesn't give you the fiber. And you know what I mean? Like that's all you heard. It's like, okay, if you're chronically sick and you just eat it, you're not going to get better. You know what I mean? You just need to do what you got to do. I totally remember that. Okay. I've got a couple of business questions for you. I have to, right? Well, because I'm curious. You don't do the circuit at all.
1:26:37Like, for example, I'm going to eudaimonia next week. I'm speaking at this place called Eudaimonia. It's a health summit. You have all the health people. You'd be phenomenal. I'm sure everyone would love to see you, hear you, you know, be on a panel, do a talk, whatever. I'm asked to do a lot of those things. You just not want to do it? You know, I probably would rather, like, watch regular TV, something people don't watch, and watch a bunch of reruns from, like, 1970s than put myself through the painstaking abuse of watching other speakers give out bad advice to a bunch of people. But you know what though?
1:27:12You know what though? I mean, at the same time, I respect everybody who's doing it. Like, here's the thing. You have to understand, like I say these things only in the defense of the chronically ill. Other than that, I have respect for people and speakers and yeah. Okay. But no, I want people to know I'm not a total dick. I actually have respect for a lot of people. Okay, wait, wait. So like, maybe not a panel, you're right, because it would be weird for conflicting information, blah, blah. But even to like, be like a fireside chat, like you and I would do a fireside chat somewhere. Are you never open to those things?
1:27:46No, I am. I am. It's just that I'm busy actually writing real books. Yes, I am. 200 ,000 word books that are literally saving people's lives. And you know, like, like these books are so fat. They're so packed. There's no fluff in them. And I sit in a chair. My exercise is sitting on a chair and doing this year after year after year. These things are so hard to do. You know, I have to have the back of the chronically ill. If I go gallivanting, I can't tell you how many times Hollywood's knocked on my door, like top producers, we can do a medical medium TV series in two seconds flat with you. We can throw people in front of you.
1:28:23You can do like your light work. We can, we can, and I'm like, I got books to write. They're like, books? Who cares about books? This is what the Hollywood producers say to me all the time. Who cares? That's just a business card, man. Who gives a shit about books? I have them like, you know what I mean? They're like, we can do TV shows 24 seven with you. You can be like the Gordon Ramsay of like, of the health movement with what you do. You hear a voice for God's sake. And I'm like, dude, that's going to take me away for years for writing the books. and then I don't want to chase the flashy thing.
1:28:56But then some mornings I wake up and I'm like, spirit, I'm going to go for it. I'm calling that producer back. You know what I mean? Why don't you? You've never explored doing like an eight-part series on Netflix or something like that. I haven't, no. I haven't explored it at all. I've had a lot of knocks on the door. You do well. You've got 5 million people on Instagram following you. Well, that's not including Facebook. It's not including my other platforms. I think I'm way above 10 million. Oh, I'm sure. I don't even know how much. How many people does he have following him? Probably like 20 million.
1:29:27Well, on Facebook alone, probably you have a ton. No, I got a lot on Facebook. I don't think it's 10, but I got a bunch. But yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, it's crazy. No, you have a, but it's not saying like - But it's not, you know what it really is too? What? It's the word of mouth out there and everybody posting because they're healing. And the medical medium is in every feed, in everywhere, in every genre. it's insane you know and i've been blessed because of the information actually working if this information didn't work i would be so screwed i would be like yeah yeah i'm the medical medium do you want to come and talk to me well yeah that's that's the part that's i'm telling you that's the part that's a little bit freaky is because like the truth of the matter is you have people that you've actually legit helped because yeah it wasn't like if you go online people are like oh yeah he helped me with this he did this with me so it's like well there has be something to it if there is these people you know are these people sorry i should say there's a lot so like okay so no tv right now i mean look i might do some stuff and i might do some different forums and i might do some different talks and and everything i got stuff with gaia i'm working with gaia so you know i'm gonna do some stuff with them you know yeah but that's old school i mean i'm talking man come on don't put down old school no but i'm saying like school's cool you You should do a six-part.
1:30:45I know, I know, I know. Netflix or like Hulu, like a six-part series. I know. And you would sell 10 billion more books than you already have. I agree 100%. And you know what I like about this is that I could be your agent. No, because I think - All right, all right, you're hired. I can do it as a - You're hired. 10%. I'm not joking. 10. I'm just kidding. I want 20%. But I was going to say - You want 50%. 50%. 15%. No, not 50. I'll take 15. All right. But I think we should tell the show. But if I go in debt by doing too much charity, because I use all my money to do all kinds of events for my community, if I go in debt or something or lose all my money, will you break that 50 % open a little and give me some of that back?
1:31:27Listen, I don't know about that. All right, all right, let's go. Obviously, you're doing fine, obviously, with the amount of books you're selling. But what I would say is this, that if you did a four - to six-part series on a Netflix or a Hulu, you'd be open to a whole new audience that you never had, so all these other books the ripple effect but you don't want to do all the other ancillary things that come with it you don't want to do the speaking gigs you don't want to go on these tours you don't want to probably do all those things yeah which then kind of but that's okay we can work around it yeah yeah but i think this is a good angle for you well you know i just was in barnes and noble yes i've been turning down barnes and noble at book signing there for 10 years yes one reason why did you do it now one reason because you know it would be really hard probably for them to handle the amount of people because i did a book sign in culver city and and almost 30 ,000 people showed and they shut the city down.
1:32:13And in the city, the entire police department, entire fire department, they had to tell me to leave by three o 'clock, by two o 'clock or something in the afternoon. It was because the city was shutting down. It couldn't even function anymore. There were 30 ,000 people there. And so what happens is, I mean, I could do Coliseum gigs, but I just don't, it's, it's a lot of work, man. A lot of like, oh my God. And the thing is, is basically the bottom line is, if I do like the lecture circuit or anything like you're saying, you know, it's, I want to make sure, okay, I did the Barnes & Noble book signing, and I did a light blast for each individual at the Barnes & Noble book signing, right?
1:32:51So each person, I asked Spirit of Compassion to do a little light work, and maybe anybody listening or watching this right now, they know about light work, and maybe they believe in in the spiritual aspect of light work and healing light and this in that supernatural aspect and angels and other stuff but it was doing light work on each individual you know i i'm not going to be able to do that other speaking engagements when i'm mixed in with a bunch of different people i can't be like there's so many rules and regulations i can imagine the producers in one of those forums or one of those gigs yeah like what do you want to do aw you want to bring up the crowd and give them light work you want to do a light blast you know they're not going to allow that.
1:33:31They're just so, so it's, I'm really in it. They will. You should be able to be a master of your own, of your own destiny. I'm in it for the chronically ill. I got their back. That's all I care about. But you could go into the, you could do like in the audience and be like, Hey, you should. And like, Bob, what's your problem? And you can do that. If we can find ways on a commercial level, like you're talking about, right. To do this, to keep the integrity to the chronically sick where I don't lose any of that integrity. It has nothing to do with the chronically sick. You can still be helping the chronically sick and be helping them.
1:34:06Do you know how many schmigeggies are out there doing all sorts of live podcasts and live events? It's a whole business. Yeah, I know. And even if you did five-city thing or four cities or whatever it is, even stay in LA and do different areas or whatever, and then you had 2 ,000 people in the audience, and you'd be like, okay, Bill, okay, John, and just five, 10 minutes, and then you can just have questions answered. I think it would be a really nice extension. Yes, I think so. And you can call the shots. Listen, you've got great advice. Thank you. You're definitely well-experienced. You're well-versed.
1:34:42You're seasoned with the business aspect of it too. Yes. And you could always, look, we'll talk and give me some advice and stuff. I will. You should do it this way and you should try this. I mean, I'm not just giving you lip service. This is business talk we're on right now, man. Exactly. We're on the business side of it. I'm telling you a direction that I think can make you a huge revenue stream. Not like you care about the money. You don't have any products. I don't want to be underneath a bridge wrapped in newspapers someday. You're not. Trust me. You have an entourage of 47 people. You're not going to be under a bridge.
1:35:16You can sleep on their couch if worse comes to worse. I just think that you have a lot of – I think you're so interesting. That's funny. you're so interesting and different and unique that that should be like explored a little bit more. That's all I'm saying. I'm honored. And like, you have a lot of people who are doing much less in the world who have, who are doing a lot more. That's all I'm saying. You can just know. And I know that too. I do know that. I know like, I know the game. Well, we can talk about this offline if you want. Offline. We will. We will. Okay. We'll talk about offline. But okay.
1:35:47Of course. The new book is called Life Changing Foods Expanded Edition by Anthony Williams. It's the expanded edition. That's the difference. It's got to be the expanded edition. It has to be. It's packed. It's so big. It is packed. The first edition was the number one New York Times bestselling book. It's changed so many lives. It's healed a lot of people with chronic illness, like, big time. Like, really has. Yeah. But this is a whole other book or more, even more, on top of that. No, it's amazing. It's so packed. All your books, though, have so much information. It's beyond. I talk about mind control in this book.
1:36:20I mean, I talk about like all kinds of stuff. Mind control, I didn't see that one. There's a little touch in that. It's part of the unforgiving six that holds people back. I talk about pathogens. I talk about all kinds of different things, chronic illness, you name it. It's packed. Mind control. I don't know how my mind has that. There's so much mind control. That's why we're going to have you plant a mulberry tree and you're going to stop your busy life for 10 seconds and you're going to walk out there and you're going to grab that magical mulberry and then all of that entire conditioning that's happened to you, it's going to get shocked out of you the minute you put it in your mouth.
1:36:55I hope you're right. And then you'll be back to everything. Okay, good. I'm going to do that. I actually am going to do that. No, no, I'm just, come on. Is a blackberry okay? Blackberries are close to wild. They are. That is one free, you know, out of the berries. That's a great one. All berries are good for you. They are, hands down, they are. But yeah, but blackberries, they're in high league. Better than blueberries? Like basic blueberries? Yeah, better than the regular blueberry, not the wild blueberry. The blackberry is better than the regular blueberry. Hands down. Blackberries are really potent.
1:37:25There's some varieties that are basically close to wild. It's crazy. Is it better to have organic? Or is it always better? It's always best to have organic. But always keep in mind, organic spray too. Yes. They spray, you know, I've been breaking that out in the scene. I got so much hate for that one. You know, organic still sprays the nicotine. They still spray the caffeine. they spray all the copper freaking industrialized copper sprayed on all the freaking organic stuff it's like you know what i mean yeah it's like you know conventional produce is so bad are you crazy dude there's a lot of copper spray i agree a lot of nicotine you got to wash your organic produce you're going to be all jacked up you know possibly like all like nicotine caffeine copper to your brain like yeah you have to you have to know to wash your stuff okay then that that's good to know i'm gonna do that okay well people should do that also just be aware and i have a recommendation anybody that has listened or watched this episode please listen and watch it again yes because there's a lot of info in here and and i was kind of going high speed on it we were going high speed there's so much listen i could do 77 podcasts with you this is like this This is just like touching.
1:38:38This is like a surface thing. And it took four years for me to come back. I know. Actually, it's 23 to 45. Three and a half. Three and a half? Yeah. Okay. But still, it took a long time. Don't quote me on it. I believe you. I'm just happy that you came back. How about that? I'm just happy you came back. I'm honored. I'm honored. Thank you. We're going to do this hopefully before another three and a half years. We're going to be on tour together. All right. It's very possible. We are. I'm telling you. I can feel it. My sphere is telling me. Well, chronically ill could really use your ingeniousness, your experience.
1:39:08I'm telling you. Because we have to help them. We're going to, I'm going to talk, listen, we're going to finish this conversation. I'm not done with you yet, but I'm done on the podcast with you. So medical medium, follow him, buy his book. And books. And books. Get them all. Get them all. You'll be blown away. If you're a reader, if you're somebody that loves to read, your just mind's going to be blown. those brand saver books even medical medium book one expanded edition of that like just oh my god liver rescue cleanse the heel that's a good liver rescue just pick up cleanse the heel do you know on amazon.com in the u.s i just saw it was going for like 12 for the hard copy it's a massive book no they're all massive books okay guys try it out look at it i'm read one read two read 10 and we'll talk later bye
1:40:00Thank you.
From the publisher
Most people don’t fail at getting healthy because they don’t care. They fail because they’re following the wrong advice.
In this episode, I sit down with Anthony William, the Medical Medium, to talk about why doing everything “right” can still leave you feeling like crap. We get into how stress, overtesting, and over-supplementing can backfire, and why simplicity beats every hack.
He shares how metals in the brain can fuel issues like OCD and ADHD, the five foods he swears by for detox and recovery, and why celery juice became more than just a trend. We also talk about what people get wrong about protein, clean eating, and chasing “optimization.”
Whether you love him or question him, this conversation will make you stop and rethink what being healthy really means.
Anthony William is the founder of the global celery juice movement and a #1 New York Times best-selling author known for his Medical Medium book series. Since the age of four, he has said he receives health insights from what he calls the Spirit of Compassion, helping people improve their well-being through a more intuitive approach.
What we discuss:
(05:42) Why “healthy” habits might actually be keeping you sick
(13:10) The hidden downside of overtesting
(24:57) How the Medical Medium was trained by a voice since childhood
(28:45) The real reason you feel tired even when you “do everything right”
(44:02) How heavy metals in the brain may trigger OCD and ADHD symptoms
(1:11:59) The five foods Anthony swears by for real detox and recovery
(01:17:57) Why protein isn’t the miracle nutrient you think it is
(01:23:39) The truth behind celery juice and why it became a global movement
(01:26:11) Why Anthony turned down Hollywood deals and the “health celebrity” circuit
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