Episode 556: The Mindset Myth & What Actually Upgrades Your Mind and Business

22 May 2026 · 17 min · 5 chapters

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In short

Tony Robbins’ Habits & Hustle episode argues the “mindset myth”: the most important upgrade isn’t mindset—it’s health. Physical habits (especially strength training) drive mental resilience and then improve business performance.

Guests

Jen (Jennifer Cohen), described as Tony’s “favorite” co-host/foil; she discusses her sayings, workout-driven decision-making, and using exercise as “therapy.” No other guests are named.

Key claims

Health comes first (physical → mental → business). Weight training improves brain chemistry, memory, and sharpness; it also supports bone health and lean muscle. Actionable habits (exercise days/times, cooking meals, water intake) create measurable change. Working out helps make better personal and business decisions.

Notable examples

saving emotionally charged texts until after workouts for better replies; using workouts for solo “me time” to resolve decisions; New Year’s resolutions where fitness is #1.

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Chapters

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Welcoming the Audience

1:33 to 2:53

Hosts engage in light-hearted banter while welcoming listeners back to the show.

“No, I was going to say with one of my favorites, period.”

The Importance of Health Over Mindset

2:55 to 4:46

Discussion on the paradigm shift from mindset to prioritizing health for better outcomes.

“if you guys could comment and leave reviews because it helps the algorithm.”

Creating Actionable Health Habits

4:46 to 8:00

Strategies for implementing daily health habits that lead to improved mental resilience.

“But a lot of times people don't even know how to change that mindset.”

The Mental Benefits of Working Out

12:01 to 14:01

Exploring how physical exercise enhances mental clarity and decision-making.

“Do you ever save decisions for a post-workout, like mindspace, mindset?”

The Power of Physicality in Mindset

14:01 to 16:15

Learn how prioritizing physical health can enhance your mental capabilities and business success.

“So this is my favorite thing is saving a hard text message for like after a workout to answer because, you know, I'll get something maybe like at nighttime or whatever that I just, oh, I'm angry or whatever.”
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0:00Hi, guys. It's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits & Hustle. Crush it. Before we dive into today's episode, I want to thank our sponsor, Momentus. When your goal is healthspan, living better and longer, there are very few non-negotiables. One of them, quality. And when it comes to supplements designed for high performers, nobody does it better than Momentus. Momentus goes all in on NSF certification, which means every single batch is tested for heavy metals, harmful additives, and label accuracy. And that's why they're trusted by all 32 NFL teams and top collegiate sports dietitians across the country.

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1:32Welcome, welcome, welcome back to Habits and Hustle. And I'm here with one of my favorites. Well, my favorite foil is Shani. Oh, do you have a, whatever. You don't have any other foils. No, I was going to say with one of my favorites, period. period, but also my favorite foil, no, and my foil, just so happens to be that my foil is also one of my favorite people. I love you. I love you. That's what I mean. Guys, I told Jen earlier, I want to get like a wind up action figure doll with just like all of her favorite sayings in there. Cause first of all, Jen's a big ego booster, but she's also like really good at like these hilarious sayings.

2:10She's got these little like really funny sayings. I don't know. It came in hell in a handbasket or whatever the hell it is. Hell in a handbasket. That's just so good. I don't know. That's not just my saying. I feel like it's been around. That just kind of shows how old I am. But you know all of them. You know, I've heard all the sayings too. I don't use them. But you use them. Like you got them in your repertoire. You know, you have them handy. I really do. Like you pull them out. Gosh, I feel like I talk like an old person. Like I talk like I'm like 77 years old or 107. It's really kind of sad.

2:35You're vintage. I am. I'm kind of vintage. But I think I was also vintage when I was like 14. Yeah, for sure. Because you're not actually that old. but you use slang as if you are like in your 70s, but it's good slang. It's fun slang. Thank you. Like it's good saying. Aw, thanks. All right, you guys, here another episode. By the way, if you guys can, it would be so amazing if you guys could comment and leave reviews because it helps the algorithm. I'm trying hard in one of my New Year's resolutions, I should say, is to try and be more present with YouTube as a business New Year's resolution, like really focus on my YouTube because that's what they say.

3:14That's what all the young people are telling me to do. And so with that being said, maybe you guys can help me because part of my whole platform is asking for what you want, right? And now I'm asking you guys to help me by leaving reviews, comments, and get that algorithm churning a little bit more. So please do that. That's a side comment. But today we're going to talk about something that I think is so interesting. And it is, there is a paradigm shift. There's a paradigm shift here. The biggest paradigm shift. I'm going to tell you about it. It's not mindset. We all hear so much about mindset, mindset, mindset.

3:55But here's the paradigm shift. The most important thing is not your mindset. It is your health. Health is actually first. Because, yeah, it is. And I'm going to explain to you why. because health, if you don't have health, you have nothing, but it goes physical, mental, and then business. Because once you start changing your body, your mental just is on a different page. You're literally like, it's a, it's a, you become physically stronger. You automatically become mentally stronger, mentally more tough, much more resilient. It really does start with the physical because you feel it's like an actionable thing that you're feeling yourself doing.

4:38It changes your mindset. It changes your mentality. It really is a it's a difference. Like I think people are so the word of 2023 and 2022 is my 2021 has always been this hashtag a mindset. But a lot of times people don't even know how to change that mindset. So they get stuck. And And instead of being stuck, I'm going to give you a very actionable thing to create real mental resilience. And that is changing and working on your physicality. That is focusing on your health, focusing on the habits that you do to be healthier daily. And that will create a tougher, better mental resiliency. And then third is your business.

5:26because you will approach your business very differently if you basically reverse engineer it by focusing on your health, which is your physical, that will turn into your mental, that will eventually change and translate how you work and deal with business. I love that. The body is your literal tool. Like all of these things, your mind only comes from your body. If your body can't work, then what can you even do? Right. It's so empowering to physically feel better. The most empowering. And I think like I know that I talk about this like in different ways and I focus on different pieces. But at the same time, fundamentally, at the foundation, the core of what I always talk about is the physicality, the fitness of it, because I do believe it is the foundation where everything comes from.

6:14And if you don't feel healthy, you really don't perform as good as you would in every area of your life. When you feel physically strong, you show up differently. Your relationships are different. Your conversations are different. Your self-esteem is different. Everything that you do, how you show up in the world, your mannerisms change. And so giving someone something that's actionable, that's measurable, and that you can actually do. Anybody and everybody could work out a little bit more and focus on their health. a little bit more. And we are in 2024. We're right in there where everyone has these New Year's resolutions.

6:59They're trying to change things. The top five resolutions, number one is always fitness. Number two is finance. We went through all of these in another episode. But I will say that if you actually follow through and create daily habits to really make health your number one goal, I'm going to basically, you're going to make health be your number one resolution to help. Let's just say I want to improve my health and I'm going to do it by exercising X amount of days for X amount of time. I'm going to make three meals at home weekly that I cook myself and that way you can really see what you're eating.

7:40I'm going to increase my water intake. Be very precise and deliberate and create these things to create your daily habits that will improve your health, that will improve your mind, that will improve your business. They all work hand in hand. Yeah. Yes. I think that also, by the way, longevity of the weightlifting that affects your mind. I've been telling my dad this nonstop, like he needs to start lifting purely because that actually does create that longevity in your mind to be able to stay sharp for longer. So even if you don't think of it like now, okay, your mind is sharp, whatever, even if you don't work out, it actually will be 10x the sharpness.

8:19And also just in terms of like in the future, do you want to maintain this? Then you have to also maintain the body to be able to do that. Well, I think weight training, strength training is so crucial for so many different things. I think it's very important as you age for sure for your lean muscle mass. That's a whole different conversation. But I will say, again, if you are in terms of how that really reflects on this conversation, that if you start strength training and feel stronger and you end up feeling stronger physically, it will make you feel stronger mentally. And that's why weight training, and not to mention for bone health and all that other stuff, which is a whole other podcast.

9:01No, but like for your brain. And for your brain. For your brain, 100 % connects. So it's like, even if it might make you feel good, it literally will change your brain. Like your brain chemistry will improve with, and your memory, your everything will improve significantly with actually training, with weight training. It's like there's studies on it. Yeah, there's a lot. But I think at this point, what I'm trying to tell everybody is when they focus on their health and the physicality part of it, that will play a big instrumental role in your overall mentality and your mindset. So without just kind of just blankly saying mindset, mindset, I'm taking it back a little bit further into focus on your health and your mindset will follow and then your business will follow.

9:45And we'll do a whole other podcast on all the benefits of strength training because, as you all know, I'm a big advocate for it and of all the benefits. But at this point, find something that you like to do and then do it a measurable amount of times a week and start incorporating it, integrating it into your life. And that is the paradigm shift that I really wanted to kind of talk about.

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12:01Do you ever save decisions for a post-workout, like mindspace, mindset? Like any big decisions in life? Sometimes I'll do that and I find it really fun. Yeah, well, I always, this is actually what happens is that I get my best ideas when I am working out. So if I do have a big life decision to make, like you're saying, I figure it out while I'm working out because I have time to myself. You know what it is also? It's a lot of me time, right? Like I don't love, I'm not a big person who loves to work out with other people. I know having an accountability partner is a really big thing for some people.

12:39I don't need that motivation myself to get my ass to work out because I've been doing it for so long and it's become so ingrained in who I am that now if I don't do it, and this will happen to you too if you're just starting it, eventually it becomes so second nature and part of who I am when I don't do it, I feel off and I feel weird. So I don't need that piece. So I use it as really like kind of like therapy in a way where I literally can like think through some of the troubles I have in my life or like the decisions I have to make. And some of my greatest like personal decisions and business decisions and all the other things happen because I have that time to myself where I can actually like go through in a real way like what I need to do and what would be the best outcome.

13:28So if not for any other thing, again, the amount of like benefits you get beyond just the physicality that happened by just doing it for the physical reasons is just so off the charts, you know, in terms of there's too many to even talk about. but that's what I really want people to focus on. I want the focus to be is on your health as the crux of what is important and so many other things will fall into place when you have that in check. True. You know what? People should try. So this is my favorite thing is saving a hard text message for like after a workout to answer because, you know, I'll get something maybe like at nighttime or whatever that I just, oh, I'm angry or whatever.

14:11I'm going to respond. I don't know. It won't be good. And then I'll just save it for the next morning after my workout and I'll revisit the text and the response is just tremendously better. Well, also because like, yeah, and also because it like is a mood enhancer. And it changes how you, like I was saying earlier, it's how you show up in the world, how you respond to people, how you react. All of those things start to shift and change once you start putting other, like changing your priorities and creating a structure that's a little bit maybe different than what you originally did, right? If I put physicality on the top of my pyramid, then my mental, then my business, right?

14:55And you start doing it that way, you will 100x your life in all the ways, right? But you have to start somewhere and you can't get to a strong mindset or discipline and all those things and productivity and happiness and all these like, all these like buzzwords by not doing the thing, the first step. And the first step is taking ownership and control of your health and your life. And when, what better time to start than now? Right? Yeah. So start because if not, you are, you'll be missing out. And we talked about it. You don't want to miss out on this. You don't want to miss it. I don't know what order we're putting this up.

15:38I just want to make sure that you guys start. Focus on your health. Focus on your physical. Because with that, your mental will come. The mental mind shift. The mentality and then the business will shift and change for the better. I promise. And let me know in my comments down below, or the comments, not my comments, the comments, what you think. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Do you already do this? Have you started to do this? Are you going to try? Let me know and get back to me and then we can evaluate. Anything else you want to add? I think that's it. Go get it, guys. Go start. Go get it.

From the publisher

Are you doing all the right things to strengthen your mindset but still feel like something is missing?

The wellness space has been selling mindset as the answer to everything for years now. And while it matters, leading with mindset is actually where most people get the order wrong. Because before your mind can perform at its best, your body has to be conditioned for it.

When you flip that order and put your physical health first, everything else starts to move differently. Your mental toughness builds naturally. Your stress response changes. The way you show up in your relationships, your conversations, and your business all shift without you having to force it.

In this episode of Habits and Hustle, I share why I put physicality at the very top of my pyramid and what actually starts to change when you do the same.

Let's dive in!

What's Discussed:

(3:10) The biggest paradigm shift nobody in the mindset space is talking about.

(3:49) Why physical strength is the actual foundation of mental resilience.

(5:20) How treating your body as your most important tool changes everything else.

(6:04) The way feeling physically strong changes how you show up in every relationship and conversation.

(9:16) Why strength training specifically upgrades your brain chemistry and memory.

(10:25) How Jen uses workouts to work through her biggest life and business decisions.

(12:39) Why saving that hard conversation for after your workout changes how you handle it.

(13:56) The first step to taking real ownership of your health and your life.

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