In short
Live interview at 92nd Street Y about Aziz Ansari’s feature directorial debut Good Fortune, a high-concept fantasy comedy dramedy hitting theaters Friday. Discussion covers making a theatrical comedy in a crowd, his writing/directing process, casting choices, and themes like the gig economy and class pressure.
Guest backgrounds
Aziz Ansari is a comedian/actor/writer/director known for Parks and Recreation and creating Netflix’s Master of None. He also stars in Good Fortune alongside Seth Rogen and Keke Palmer, with Keanu Reeves and Keanu’s “innocent/naive” comedic tone highlighted. Host Josh Horowitz (Happy, Sad, Confused) moderates; Ben Schwartz appears via a video message.
Key claims
Good Fortune’s angel premise evolved from early writing ideas; tone was “straight” despite heavy moments (e.g., sleeping in a car). Ansari says he rehearsed and shot mostly single-camera, unlike multi-camera improvisation styles. He calls communal theater laughter essential.
Notable examples
“Proof of concept” burger scene; Keanu’s kneecap injury during a cold plunge; rehearsal-driven Seth/Keanu joke “rewind” in editing; fake cinnamon-bun location “There Will Be Buns.”
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Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroducing Aziz Ansari
1:15 to 2:28
Josh prepares the audience for Aziz Ansari's appearance after a film screening.
“Hey guys, it's Josh, and welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused.”
Aziz's Film and Career
2:28 to 5:17
Aziz discusses his upcoming film 'Good Fortune' and reflects on his career.
“I've seen this movie three times, actually.”
The Joy of Moviegoing
5:17 to 10:00
Aziz shares his thoughts on the importance of watching comedies in theaters.
“Is the greatest acting challenge of your life pretending you've never eaten burrata?”
Influences and Inspirations
10:00 to 12:28
Aziz reminisces about his childhood movie experiences and their impact on him.
“so a lot of the scenes in there, they were developed through rehearsal, and, you know, we would kind of find the scenes that way, and so we were starting a little bit ahead of the game.”
Influences and Inspirations
12:30 to 15:13
Aziz reminisces about his childhood movie experiences and their impact on him.
“I've loved talking to this cast over the years, and I'm so thrilled to say there's a really cool new podcast out there if you're an OBX fan.”
Concept Development for the Film
15:47 to 18:29
Aziz discusses the initial ideas and themes behind his film.
“What's the first thing you ever put, like logline or early version of this that came together?”
Casting Keanu Reeves
18:32 to 22:38
Aziz shares his experience and thoughts on casting Keanu Reeves.
“And he was just leaving some hotel that I was in, like walking through the lobby.”
Challenges Filming with Keanu
22:41 to 23:58
Aziz recounts the difficulties faced while filming with Keanu Reeves.
“And he just really knocked it out of the park.”
Reflecting on a Surreal Career
24:00 to 26:06
Aziz reflects on his career and experiences in the film industry.
“you're in a pool with Seth Rogen and Keanu Reeves.”
Food Trends and Ayahuasca
26:08 to 28:00
Discussion on food preferences and thoughts on ayahuasca.
“Because what I'll do is I'll try to take small bites so I won't be able to, I won't be like trying to do my lines with a mouth full of food.”
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The Evolution of Ayahuasca Experiences
28:00 to 29:10
Aziz discusses the changing perception of ayahuasca rituals and personal experiences with psychedelics.
“And that's really the secret, but it's just too boring a life.”
Behind the Scenes of Filmmaking
29:10 to 30:50
Aziz shares funny moments from filming and insights into the production crew's contributions.
“and she just did all the stuff she normally did and Seth was so funny and it was one of those things where he's like, well, we've got to cut this down to almost nothing but yeah, it was so fun.”
Directing Himself in Film
30:50 to 33:40
Aziz reflects on the challenges and experiences of directing himself in his projects.
“It must feel like a lot of roads have been leading to this.”
Reflections on 'Being Mortal'
33:40 to 36:40
Aziz discusses the themes of his unfinished film 'Being Mortal' and its emotional depth.
“I mean, you know, we shot Master of None like a film and tried to make it feel pretty cinematic.”
The Genesis of Parks and Recreation
36:40 to 39:10
Aziz talks about his early role in 'Parks and Recreation' and its collaborative nature.
“Like, would you have to start from scratch?”
Nostalgia and Memorable Lines
39:10 to 42:00
Aziz reflects on memorable lines from 'Parks and Recreation' and the impact of nostalgia.
“I met with them and they'd seen some stuff I'd done on a sketch show for MTV.”
Reflecting on Parks and Recreation
42:00 to 45:01
Aziz Ansari shares his experiences working on 'Parks and Recreation' and the joy it brought him.
“And then it showed you what was in the episode, and it was just me and Reddit going, Ron's in blue, cut.”
Early Career Challenges and Breakthroughs
45:34 to 52:21
Aziz discusses his journey in comedy, early auditions, and the evolution of roles available.
“So briefly, just on your background, for those that don't know, you know, you grew up the son of immigrants, South Carolina.”
Creative Ambitions and Future Projects
52:21 to 56:00
Aziz expresses his creative aspirations and thoughts on collaborating with others.
“On the acting side, you kind of are spoiled when you get to be the creator and write yourself these fun roles.”
Celebrating Kiki Palmer's Talent
56:00 to 56:50
Aziz Ansari shares his admiration for Kiki Palmer's talent and positivity.
“I think I've been in stuff that I thought was bad and been like, this doesn't matter.”
Exploring Sad Movies
56:50 to 57:49
Discussion about films that evoke sadness, including famous titles.
“Tokyo Story, Ozu supposedly was inspired by Make Way from Toronto.”
Confusing Foods
57:49 to 58:38
Ansari and the host discuss foods that they find confusing, particularly beets.
“This is the last question, most importantly.”
Positive Food Vibes
58:38 to 59:05
The conversation continues on food preferences, maintaining a positive outlook.
“I was going to say celery, but sometimes I like celery.”
Promoting Aziz's New Movie
59:05 to 59:42
Urging listeners to support Aziz's new comedy and spread the word.
“Hopefully the next collaboration will involve Vin Diesel and beyond.”
Transcript
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0:42You're going to probably be in a restaurant, like, in 30 years, and someone's going to send over something with, like, a message and says, like, treat yourself, enjoy this. I love that it's part of my career, especially because there's not a ton of shows like that now that are made for that many episodes. It's also something that kids can enjoy, and a lot of kids have been discovering the show, so that's been fun to meet a whole generation of kids that have discovered the show. It's so cool. But yeah, I'm so proud to have been part of that group, and yeah, it always makes me smile when I see little moments like that.
1:15Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hey guys, it's Josh, and welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Today, another first-time guest, Mr. Aziz Ansari, talking about his feature directing debut, Good Fortune. Thanks, guys, as always, for joining us on the podcast, listening or viewing it however you like. We are publishing a lot of content lately. I know, and I apologize, I'm clogging your feed, but it's all for a good cause. We just have recorded so many great conversations, and I have to share them all with you. We also are just coming off of New York Comic Con, so there are a lot of the things there that I'm still trying to share with you guys as quickly as possible.
1:57As always, if you want extra content, even more early access, all the cool stuff, you know what to do. Patreon.com slash happy, say it confused. Plus, you're going to get the Inside Dirt first and discounts on our live events, including next week, 92nd Street Y, I am talking to the cast and creators of Nobody Wants This. And there are many, many, many more very cool events to come. Speaking of live events, that's what this was. Aziz joined me after a screening of his new film, Good Fortune, at the 92nd Street Y. Just a blast. I really like this movie a lot. I've seen this movie three times, actually.
2:32That should tell you all you need to know about the film. It is a high concept fantasy comedy dramedy. Seth Rogen, Keke Palmer, Keanu Reeves, and Aziz himself. And it's a delight. Super funny. Aziz always delivers as a creator. I mean, if you've seen his work, obviously, Master of None was really his baby that he created. And this certainly continues that. And it's his feature directing debut. So I'm excited to help support that film in this conversation. Big career chat, though. We talk about his roots. Obviously, we cover a lot of parks and recreation. We have a special message from our buddy, Ben Schwartz.
3:13We talk about, if you don't know it, there's a crazy story. It was he's kind of almost directing another film. He was directing another film starring Bill Murray and Seth and Kiki that fell apart halfway through it. Google it. You'll see what happened. But fascinating to hear his vision for what that movie was going to be. Aziz is, you know, one of the smartest, funniest, coolest guys around. So I think you're going to enjoy this. I take you now to the 92nd Street Y for a lovely live event with Aziz Ansari. How's it going, everybody? Thank you guys so much for coming out tonight. My name is Josh Horowitz.
3:51I host a podcast called Happy, Sad, Confused. The 92nd Street Y is always so awesome to host these live events. I love doing these here, and I love having a first-time guest on the podcast. We're about to bring out the one and only Aziz Ansari, everybody. Are you excited for this? Come on. Come on.
4:09from his stand-up from Parks and Rec to Master of None. This guy can do so many things. He's an actor. He's a director. He's a writer. He's a burrata boy, apparently, from his new film, Good Fortune. Give it up for Good Fortune, by the way. You're some of the first folks in the world to see this film. This movie comes out in theaters. Yes, in theaters this Friday. It needs all your love. every movie does nowadays, and especially the good ones that need that word of mouth. So I know you're going to spread the good word. And as a penance, as a gift to you guys for spreading the good word, I give you the one and only Mr.
4:46Aziz Ansari, everybody. Give it up.
4:59Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for coming to screening. Thank you for having me on the podcast. and thank you for these tiny, nondescript water bottles. Three of them. Who is the third one for? Whoever gets the most dehydrated. Ooh. Something to stay tuned for. Congratulations, man. This movie is so great. Thank you very much. Your third time seeing it, you said. I've seen this movie three times. It's not even out yet. You've seen it three times. That's a lot of love. I appreciate it. And I'm a busy man. No, thank you. No, I love it. Is the greatest acting challenge of your life pretending you've never eaten burrata?
5:34in your life hey you you know me uh you know me well yes that was uh that was tough yeah but we did it so this film it is a film it is a film for theaters and that is a rarity nowadays as we know to see comedies on the big screen yeah where they belong why is that important to you i mean well hopefully you guys it felt it today and and i felt it on the screenings we've been doing just just being in a crowd watching a film like this, it's so much more fun than sitting on the couch by yourself and being on the phone. And I heard you guys laughing and stuff, and I miss that. And I remember going to the movies and having that experience all the time, you know, in the heyday of a lot of sets movies, Pineapple Express, Superbad, all those movies.
6:18And that communal experience, it adds so much to the film. It strikes me. I mean, I remember, like, you know, when you started to especially do films and we're in some of those like Apatow comedies and 30 Minutes or Less. And like you were kind of like, you know, you were getting some nice roles, some smaller roles, but this must be a whole different kind of feeling because you're the architect of this. Do you feel, you must feel the skin in the game, the pressure, but also the joy of bringing this to the screen. Yeah, I mean, I would say it's similar to when I went from doing Parks and Rec to doing my Netflix series Master and Done, to just kind of go from being a piece in a machine to being like, oh, you're building the whole machine and putting it all together, and you have so many more responsibilities and everything, but you also get to make something that's yours.
7:09So take me back. You were saying we all share those memories growing up of that theatrical experience, especially seeing comedies. What were the ones that really resonated with you, that you knew by heart, that you can remember yourself sitting in a theater enjoying as a kid? Comedies? Yes, comedies especially. You know, as a kid, I don't remember as many. As a kid, I remember seeing, I was like so into action movies as a kid. And I know this is going to sound convenient because he's in the film, but I remember a couple of the big Keanu movies. Like I remember seeing Speed in the theater. I saw that at a drive-in movie theater in Albany, New York, and it just crushed.
7:43It was so cool. There was a, it was a, sorry, I've told this story on this press tour a couple times because of obvious reasons. But I remember I went with my family. My aunt and uncle lived in Albany. They took me to a drive-in movie theater. And the first movie was True Lies, which was amazing. And then the second movie was Speed. And I thought Speed was like about people doing speed, like the drug. And I thought it was going to be awkward seeing all these hyper people with my aunt and uncle. So I was like, maybe we go home. And then it was Speed. And it's so good. And it plays so well in the theater.
8:13And that was great. I remember going to The Matrix when I was in high school. That was unbelievable. But comedy is a very, really think back, I mean, I remember being in college. I think I was in college when we went and saw Anchorman, I think at the Regal and Union Square. And it was just, it was just, it was electric. The energy in there was crazy. Same with 40-year-old Virgin. I definitely remember that era of films and seeing those with audiences and it being something special. I also want to mention before I forget, again, having seen this film three times, all three times, I think I'm the loudest one laughing in the theater at the line, I feel like Kevin James in Hitch.
8:49I feel like Kevin James in Hitch. It's a very specific. That makes me Hitch in Hitch. You know, you want to know a little tidbit. Yes. Okay, so what we had in the edit at one point was, I would say, I feel like Kevin James in Hitch. And then Seth says, that makes me Hitch in Hitch. He's a cool guy. Thanks. And then we both said, take that and rewind it back. Ersher got the make the booty go clap and then it cut to the next scene and then they were like that'll cost$100 ,000 right and we said but we really like it and they're like we really don't think that's the best use of the budget are you the kind of filmmaker writer that has like alts like you know I've been on the Apatow McKay sets where they're on the bullhorn throwing at alts or are you kind of like wedded to the words I say it's a little bit different than their process.
9:48I've experienced that process a little bit. You know, they're often shooting with multiple cameras, so everybody's improvising, and it's a little bit more of a free-for-all. You know, I'm usually shooting with one camera, and we spend a lot of time rehearsing, so a lot of the scenes in there, they were developed through rehearsal, and, you know, we would kind of find the scenes that way, and so we were starting a little bit ahead of the game. And then while we're shooting, sometimes I would throw things out. I mean, I remember in that scene where they're both eating the burger, when Keanu's eating a burger for the first time.
10:21Those scenes were so fun where I'm just directing, and I have to just throw jokes at Seth and Keanu. And I think I pitched for Keanu to say, or Seth would say, you're a big boy now. And then Keanu, take a bite and say, yeah, I'm a big boy. And then they would just do that, and it was so fun. I mean, seeing this film, I mean, I can't help but think, I mean, you know, I'm a bit of a cinephile, so I think of things like everything from L.A. story to Heaven Can Wait, being there. There's a lot of little elements in there. I don't know if any of those were on your mind. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, what was interesting is we had a big pause for the writer's strike.
10:59You know, we shot for like a day. The only real scene we got under our belt was was the burger scene, which was I mean, you know, this is a precarious thing. People are like, oh, man, you know, it's all so tough to get the movie. But I'm so thankful we got it done because there's a world where we couldn't have come back where they would have been like, hey, you know, this has really changed how expensive this movie is that you shut down because of strike and everything. But we had that burger scene. I think that burger scene, you know, was kind of proof of concept. But in that period during the strike, that was a long, it was like, what, six, eight months?
11:32It was a long time. I just, you know, I didn't work on the script at all. You know, you weren't supposed to. But I also welcomed that because it gave me some space from it. And I watched, you know, I would watch a bunch of L.A. movies, you know, a bunch of Union movies, you know, everything. And I watched L.A. Story. And, oh, yeah, that opening is so great. the parody of La Dolce Vita and he has like a hot dog. And then just when they're at the four-way stop and they all crash into each other, that's an amazing movie. And so many of those LA... Patrick Stewart in that movie, amazing. So many good things in that movie.
12:08Patrick Stewart, what is he? Patrick Stewart plays like the obnoxious chef at the... He's like the head of the restaurant. Oh, okay. Yeah. I mean, what's funny is all those LA jokes still work. And that was, you know, that's pretty old now.
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15:47What is the germ of the idea here? What's the first thing you ever put, like logline or early version of this that came together? I just started writing those two guys and then I would get to like page 40 and I was like, I don't know what happens here. And then I had this angel idea and I was like, oh, maybe that angel thing happens here. And then I tried that and it started working and I kept coming up with other ideas like oh what if the angel gets fired and then he has to become a human and then he has to get a job and it kind of kind of flowed from there and the the the kind of commentary i wouldn't call this like you know it's not an overt message movie but there's you know you're talking about the gig economy you're talking about how we're kind of like piling all this on the this underclass that's propping up the upper class was that baked in from the start like when did that kind of like enter in as a theme throughout the film um uh i mean it was in there and then i did a lot of interviews and things and gotten a lot of details that kind of um i filled in into the film um so yeah it kind of just came as i was doing the writing process and kind of fleshing everything out and in terms of you know i mean this is obviously a high concept film so like there are a lot of different ways to do that like you do you kind of lean in it's like you have angel wings like they're like what did you question yourself of like what can I get away with what's the audience gonna buy in terms of how to depict the fantastical stuff yeah that's a tough challenge to find that tone right where you're doing some pretty heavy stuff a guy's sleeping in his car and everything but how do you kind of play that stuff straight but then you also have Keanu wearing angel wings and I don't know for some reason I had it in my head the tone and it just kind of worked and I think so much of uh you know whether you're making a film or a television show if you have the tone and you believe in it and know it, I think it can work.
17:30I mean, that's how I felt about Master Nun and this, and I feel like it works. Well, I think it also works because, like, you do ground it in such a way where, like, you know, I think most of us, if we did encounter somebody with angel wings coming up to this, we would probably react like your character does and say something to the effect of, like, who the fuck are you? Get away from me. Yeah, yeah. That's what real, like, what you would do. Yeah, that's played pretty real, you know, and then, you know, he does the fantastical thing and shows me the visions or whatever, that's like, okay, this is clearly a legitimate angel person.
18:01Did you, so some specific things in the film, I'm curious if they came from your life or not. Did you learn a specific dance for your 40th birthday party? No. God, no, man. Come on. No judgment. I'm just asking. No, I just thought that'd be a fun thing for him to have to learn, that he wanted to learn a dance. But that choreographer, he's a real choreographer, Michael Arnold. And he, yeah, he's worked with Scorsese and Joaquin Phoenix and all these amazing people. And I thought he was a funny character, so I just put him in the movie, too. Amazing. Okay, so you know Seth. You know Kiki. Did you know Keanu?
18:39I'd never met him before. I'd seen him one time in real life. And he was just leaving some hotel that I was in, like walking through the lobby. And he has a big smile on his face, and he walked past me. And that's the only time I'd ever seen him in person. He's one of these guys that still has that mystique, you know, you know You go to these kind of Hollywood things and you know people aren't really impressed But he's one of these guys where whoa Keanu's here, you know, he's still in that that kind of rarefied air So no, I never met him. So he obviously yeah, he's very specific There aren't there you can count on one hand people of that type who bring that kind of gravitas and specificity It's like was there plan B is it like okay if I can't get Keanu, it's it's Vin Diesel like what do you?
19:20which would be awesome too, honestly, by the way. But did you write with him in mind? I guess when did you... I didn't write with him in mind. I originally thought Seth would play the angel, and so I had Seth in my head. What's that? We're entering another plane. That's Vin Diesel. He's pulling up. He heard that bit. He's like... It's like Beetlejuice. You say his name three times. That's Dominic Toretto.
19:49you rang by the way that is my favorite acting of the last few years or whatever you want to call it performance everything anything one of the best pieces of I don't know to me it's cinema it's not technically wasn't in a movie theater but to me it's cinema is that moment at the Oscars when Vin Diesel sees the rock in the audience and he goes hi Dwayne you know what I'm talking about? There's so much depth to that. That's like, because you hear about this feud and all this stuff and then they might be coming at together and then he shows up at the Oscars where you kind of don't expect him to be.
20:29He goes, hi, Dwayne. It's kind of incredible. Whose side are you on in the ongoing feud? I think they've mended ways by now, but if you had to choose your side. Oh, I don't know. I feel like we're all winning in this because this is pure entertainment. So Seth was originally the angel. And then me and Seth met with a couple of people about playing Jeff. And we were both kind of feeling the same thing. We were like, I don't know if this is going to work. I think Jeff needed to be someone you could root for while at the same time be a little annoyed with. And then I had the idea, well, why don't I just make Seth Jeff?
21:09He can pull that off. He'd be great as Jeff. And then we'll find someone else to play the angel. That's a little more open-ended. You have a little more latitude of who that could be. And then one of the first names that came up was Keanu Reeves. And I was blown away that this was a possibility. I met with him, and we had a great meeting, and he seemed intrigued by the idea. I sent him the script, and we met up a couple times, and then here we are. I've heard you talk about this a little bit, and I agree with you. You're leaning into a cadence of Keanu that we haven't seen in a while, but that he does very well, this kind of innocence.
21:45Yeah, he's very funny when he's innocent, naive, kind of dumb. I mean, he does it very well. Before I met with him, I did a little Keanu film festival, and I watched all these things. I watched everything. What a delightful filmography to have everything from Speed to Point Break to Matrix. And then I watched some of those comedies from back in the day, the Bill and Ted stuff, and Parenthood. I love him in Parenthood. and you can see little pieces of Todd and the Bill and Ted character in here and it's just taking that and kind of adjusting it for who he is now because he has this he's in his 60s now I think he just turned 60 last year and he has this wisdom to him he has this depth that wasn't there when he was playing those guys back then because he was so young and it's like okay how do you put all that together and how do you dial this up where it needs to be dialed up to be Gabriel And he was so great at giving me his time to rehearse and find the character together.
22:44And he just really knocked it out of the park. I think he did such a fantastic job. I know you've told this story, so forgive me. But it has to be said that Keanu Reeves has survived four John Wick films, speed, point break, without breaking down. And you almost broke our beloved Keanu Reeves. Yeah. Yeah, he famously fell and broke his kneecap. And, yeah, it was when we were filming that scene in the cold plunge, and he went back to his room, and he was in his dressing room. He tripped over a rug, and he broke his kneecap. And, yeah, shattered. And he did not want to take any breaks, and he just kept filming.
23:25We filmed a lot of his stuff where he had, like, a big knee brace that we edited out in post. But we pushed a couple of things, like the cumbia dancing and stuff. we pushed to do after he healed. But he was a trooper. Again, the movie could have completely went away. He could have easily said, hey, I can't do this. I shattered my kneecap. I'm sure his doctor was like, yeah, you don't want to be acting right now. You want to heal. And he completely came through for all of us and pushed through what I'm sure must have been excruciating pain. Do you have those surreal moments still at this point in your career?
24:00You're directing a film that you wrote. you're in a pool with Seth Rogen and Keanu Reeves. How did I arrive at this place in my life? It's all surreal, man. I don't take any of it for granted. And, yeah, the Keanu thing is definitely very surreal because he's someone I watched growing up as a kid. And, you know, yesterday we had a premiere in New York City, and we were at the AMC Lincoln Square. and I remembered this while we were there. I remember I came to New York in the year 2000. I was a freshman at NYU and I remember one Saturday, I hadn't really found my friends yet. I didn't have anything to do.
24:43And I went to that theater by myself and watched Pootie Tang. And I had such a great time. And it really teared me up because I was a little bit, It was that early freshman year, you don't have your friends, you're kind of in a different place. And I watched Pootie Tang, and I had such a great time. And last night at the premiere, Chris Rock was there. And he's a good friend of mine now, and he came to support me at the premiere. And that was just one of those moments where I was like, wow, this is a truly wild ride. Amazing. Yeah. Anybody that knows your career and some of the topics you love would not be surprised to see.
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25:23There's a lot of scenes of people eating in this film. There's a lot of... You know, that was like season three of Master Done, where I kind of gave a deliberate fuck you to everybody and said like, hey, I'm going to take everything people like about the show and get rid of it. No food, nothing. And then... Back to your... And then Good Fortune, I'm like, okay, let's bring a little food here. Okay. And we shot the restaurant stuff. And I remember I was with Alan Yang, who produced Master Done with me. He's a producer on this. and when we're shooting that scene at that restaurant Dunsmore, we're like, well, this feels very master of none to be in a kind of nice looking restaurant and shoot all this food stuff.
26:01Do you like eating on camera? Because most actors I talk to, it's like sex scenes and eating on camera. Those are the two things they don't enjoy doing. I don't really like it. I don't think I'm really good at it. Because what I'll do is I'll try to take small bites so I won't be able to, I won't be like trying to do my lines with a mouth full of food. In the Burrata Boys scene, for example, I was taking these fake little bites of the bread and Seth was like, that's gonna look weird. It's gonna look like you nibbled on the nose. And sure enough, I'd have to take the bigger bite. I do appreciate, my Instagram feed basically is like all cinnamon buns in New York City bakeries and cinnamon buns.
26:37Oh yeah, did you catch the name of that? So we were supposed to shoot at a real place and then at the last minute they decided they didn't wanna be filmed at for whatever reasons. And they were like, what do we do? And this was like so much of directing is just problem solving and, you know, dealing with these hurdles that come your way. And they were like, I got bad news that the place fell through. We got to be on the block because we're permitted there. And I was like, let's just make a fake place. They sell cinnamon buns. It's called There Will Be Buns. And that's what we did. And it's cool because now we're coming out after one battle after another.
27:16And there's a little, you know, weird nod to PTA. Exactly. Good double feature, just saying. Yeah, I mean, so on the food side, do you keep up with food trends? Are you monitoring what's out there? No, not really. I don't really go out to eat that much. I try to cook at home as much as I can. I love to cook Indian food and just stay home with my wife and cook at home. That's my favorite thing to eat. What about ayahuasca? Where are you at in ayahuasca? Ayahuasca, I've never done it That lady, you know, ayahuasca It's so funny to me because it's like this This like, you know This drug that indigenous cultures would do once a year And, you know, it would be this big deal It would be a journey of the mind And, you know It was a sacred thing And now white people in LA are just doing it like every couple of weeks and it's never my bi-weekly ayahuasca trip not kidding it's like you did it again and like and they're like yeah we have this shaman named katie i'm like wait a second katie hi guys i'm your shaman like that just doesn't i i can't i'm not into it and um and then you then then you talk to other people that are like trying to do it right or whatever like yeah i was in peru and almost died we couldn't get i'm like that this doesn't sound my my view is the the best the The time I feel best, you know, and I've done all the psychedelics and stuff, and what works best is just go to sleep early and don't drink a lot.
28:53And then you feel amazing. And that's really the secret, but it's just too boring a life. Right. Ayahuasca plays better on screen. We'll say that. Oh, my God. There's so much funny stuff we shot of Seth doing that. Because we just did it like the lady is a real shaman. I said, just do what you normally do. and she just did all the stuff she normally did and Seth was so funny and it was one of those things where he's like, well, we've got to cut this down to almost nothing but yeah, it was so fun. It's a perfect match cut of him throwing up on his trip and your poor character donating his blood.
29:26Yeah, again, when you talk about these things, I think about our prop master, Eric Yerbe, one of my favorite factoids. He was a prop master on Inception and so he had that top And he was like, oh, I got a great puke formula. And he had this fake puke. It had the right consistency. I was like, damn, this is good puke. What makes it good? It just looks good on camera? It just looks like puke. It has a good texture that reads on camera. It's got the right volume. It doesn't feel too liquidy, not too solid. It's a good, he's got it down. And here's why this guy's a champion. And it tasted pretty good, too.
30:07It tasted just like kind of chocolatey. It was just like, it didn't taste bad. You know? That was the kind of work ethic we had on Good Fork. I mean, when you look at this film, I mean, you kind of alluded to this. Like, you know, you're not shooting. It's a very specific vision. It's a single camera shot thing. You have Carter Burwell doing the score. Like, you have this amazing behind-the-scenes crew. Again, just as amazing. Like, I can't believe we got Carter. I mean, he's done some, I mean, Raising Arizona, probably my favorite score ever, you know? And I couldn't believe that he was down to do this.
30:42And we did the score, he recorded the score at Abbey Road and all these people came out to watch. They're like, yeah, Carter's the best. We gotta come see Watch Carter. It was so cool. It must feel like a lot of roads have been leading to this. I mean, Master of None, you obviously were, it seems like you were not experimenting, but you were pushing yourself. You and Alan were pushing the envelope as filmmakers in the television realm. And now it's kind of like, okay, where do we go from here? how do we bring it to the next level in a way? Yeah, and I think that's what this does. I think it does feel like Master of None taken to another level in both kind of the runtime and also just kind of the spectacle of having, you know, Keanu and Seth and bringing all these people into our world.
31:23That was definitely the goal, and I hope we get to do more of it. I do have, one other person has some questions about your filmmaking. I enlisted a mutual friend. Do you want to see a little video from Ben Schwartz? Oh, sure. Your old buddy. Wow. Ben Schwartz for Aziz. Oh, I haven't seen him in so long. Hi, Aziz. It's me, Ben Schwartz. I played your best friend in the four episodes of Scrubs that you did. I have so many questions I want to ask you. First of all, congratulations on your movie. I can't wait to watch it. Second, how nice is Keanu Reeves? The nicest person in the universe. Third, what was it like to direct yourself in a film?
32:00Did you find it easy? Did you find it hard? did you give yourself enough time like you did the other actors to do takes or did you cut yourself off short and do you find any difference between directing yourself in tv and movies those are real questions that josh horwood's dreams he could think of also josh is like you got to get it in you got to get it in right now so i'm just on the streets of i'm on the streets of minnesota miss you buddy hope all is well rooting you on from here and can't wait to see a movie josh get just fucking get over yourself unnecessary sweet and then then evil that's so nice i haven't seen him in so long um so what was his question directing yourself directing directing myself um i mean i was i'm very used to it you know i the in the third season of masternone i and in the the film i was doing with bill murray that we ended up not finishing at the time i i was i was kind of not in it as much because I kind of was like, I kind of just want to direct.
32:54I don't want to act as much. But I had small parts in both of them. And whenever I had to act, it was a little annoying. I was like, I've got to go to hair and makeup and do the whole thing. I've got to act. But when you're in it all the time, it's easy because you're like, okay, I'm in it all the time. I know the deal. You know what I mean? And so this felt very much like Master of None. I was very much used to this. This was very much in my lane. And I've talked to Seth about this because he does the same thing on the studio. and there is something streamlined about, you know, being the person, you know, writing, directing, starring.
33:28There's something about like, oh, there's a real line of communication that you have that's so direct for the obvious reason. And as far as the difference between doing it in film and television, not really. I mean, you know, we shot Master of None like a film and tried to make it feel pretty cinematic. and I remember screening Masternone episodes in theaters and that was great. So yeah, I didn't feel much difference. I feel like his question wasn't that much better than my question's. No, not at all. Right? Like it was the same level. There was some unnecessary Horowitz slams there. Yeah, there's history there.
34:04I mean, you mentioned the Bill Murray experience and we don't have to go into detail of it, but I wonder if you feel like between that strike for this one and the circumstances of that film, which doesn't often happen when you're in the middle of a film and it just like goes away. Oh, that never happens. Like, do you feel, like, cursed? Like, oh, my God. No, not really, because here's the thing people don't realize. Like, you know, all these movies that you see, you know, the things that the writer's strike and the bill thing, they were in the news. But most things that people are dealing with are not in the news.
34:34You don't hear about, oh, you know, so-and-so famous actor dropped out two weeks before, and then they had to spend, you know, another year getting financing. Every movie is a miracle. And there's nobody that's made a movie that I know that's had, oh, yeah, we had the script. We got the people. We shot it. And it was done. It was easy. Maybe a couple of people who have really done a lot and really get into a system. But especially now, like things fall apart all the time. I mean, I feel so blessed to have this movie coming out and to have gotten it done. And I don't feel unlucky in the least bit.
35:06I mean, I understand the point, but I guess I'm saying holistically, to me, like, every movie is a struggle, and I made it through, and I'm here, so I did it, so I feel good. But it's interesting. I do think about being mortal, you know. It's such a different – it was such a different movie than Good Fortune, and I don't know. It would have been a much different debut. I mean, I shot like half of it, and it was definitely— A little more dramatic? It was a little more— Yeah, it was heavy. I mean, it's based on a book called Being Mortal by Atul Gawande, who's an incredible writer. It's a nonfiction book.
35:46It's about dealing with end-of-life issues and things that you deal with when you're around our age and your parents, and they're getting sick. You've got to put them into retirement homes, deal with doctors. it's heavy, but it can also be funny. There's humor there in these really dark times. And the idea for the movie is like, oh, well, what if you took this book and you made it into a narrative and the guy was Bill Murray? That was the idea. It wasn't like, oh, what if there was a guy? It was like, what if it was Bill Murray? Because, you know, and I was really trying to do an evolution of this kind of the stuff he was doing in like Lost in Translation and films like that where he's, you know, really funny, but it's also very poignant.
36:25And I mean, it was a great experience. And, you know, we were shooting it. You know, it was Lowell Crowley that shot. The Brutalist was our DP. We were shooting on film. We shot on 35. And it was... It's sad now. This sounds amazing. Oh, I mean, it's still there. It's on my computer. Some of it, yeah. Would you salvage it? Like, would you have to start from scratch? No, people have talked to us about doing it. It's a matter of schedules. We've got some busy people between Seth and Kiki and Bill and myself. But no, but it was a much different thing. It might have been something where, you know, people might have been like, oh, man, this is they might have wanted something more.
37:05Yeah, too much of a leap. Like almost like this is like you have to like get to that point to like. I don't know. I mean, I love being more to it. It was just a different thing. It's a little bit different genre. It was a little more dramatic. It was. But there was there was beautiful stuff in it. I mean, there was really funny stuff, too. I don't know if you remember there was a woman in Parks and Recreation her name was Helen and she played a character named Ethel Beavers and she was in Being Mortal playing this cranky lady at the retirement home and it was so funny just like Bill it was such an incredible experience you know Bill you're taking Bill and you're doing these scenes there's a scene where Seth has to take him to all these different retirement homes to find out which one he's going to go into and all of them were just ridiculous there would always be some ridiculous thing happening in the retirement homes that he was visiting and then he you know and then you go to one that's kind of sad and and like a little dark and and and you know the i remember thinking i was like man it's it's so sad to think of someone like bill uh being in one of these places and then i was like oh it's so sad to think of anybody in one of these places bill everybody knows and he has this light inside but everybody has light inside them.
38:22And I don't know, the movie made me think about it a lot and I hope we get to revisit it. So we saw Ben up there. I have to ask you a bunch of, at least some things about Parks and Recreation, which obviously was such an important part of your life and career. Famously, you were the first one cast in that. Did you realize how insane that was at the time that Greg and Mike thought of you first for their next show and it turned into Parks and Rec? No, because I think when you're young, you're just kind of naive and dumb and you don't realize how crazy things are. And maybe I'll look back 10 years from now and think the same thing about myself at this moment.
39:00But I don't think so. I think I have a little bit more awareness of how tricky and tough this industry can be. But, yeah, I was the first one that they'd cast. I met with them and they'd seen some stuff I'd done on a sketch show for MTV. There was one sketch they liked in particular, and they said, hey, we'd love for you to be a part of this. And I remember leaving the meeting. I said, whatever you're doing, it would be my dream to be involved in this. And then they called me a couple weeks later and said they wanted me to be a part of it. And how much of what became Tom was them presenting that idea to you or a collaborative discussion in terms of what he eventually turned into?
39:40They loved to hear any ideas and things we had and were very collaborative with the cast. but it was really, it was their thing, you know but they would take little things, you know, they'd see like, oh, Nick Offerman likes woodworking, maybe Ron likes woodworking, you know, they would do little things like that, but yeah, that was a great experience and yeah, I still talk to Mike and Greg you know, when I can So what's the most shocking thing that at the time was like just a throwaway line that you thought you would never hear again that still exists in your life? There must be dozens of them that like You know what's strange is like, if If you're an actor and you're walked around, people will come up to you and they'll just say something like, don't get too comfy in that chair.
40:22And you'll be like, huh? And they're like, you said that. You said it. And I was like, there's so many things I just forget.
40:32It is a good line. Yeah. Do you get, we did an event with Adam Scott actually here. And he says he has trouble watching it because it makes him sad. because he just thinks of how special a time it was. It was special, and it's also a weird time capsule of your innocence and youth.
40:55When I watch that show, it's interesting. I hadn't really seen it in a long time, and I was listening. Amy Poehler has a podcast, and I was listening to an episode of that, and then on YouTube I got Park's stuff, like behind the scenes things and bloopers and stuff. And when I watched that, that really reminded me of my experience. Because the show is like, you're working this much and then they take a tiny sliver of that and that's in the show. Like there was some blooper thing that I saw where me and Retta, I don't remember what the context was, but we're in Nick Offerman's office and Ron Swanson's office and we're just chanting, Ron's in bloosh, Ron's in bloosh.
41:40I have no, I don't remember what bloosh is, I don't remember, but we just kept going, Ron's in bloosh, Ron's in bloosh, and we were dancing, and then I jump on the desk, and we're like, Ron's in bloosh, and then I started doing a thing where I sped up the record, and I was like, Ron's in bloosh, Ron's in bloosh, Ron's in bloosh, and then we said, Ron's in bloosh, Ron's in bloosh. And then it showed you what was in the episode, and it was just me and Reddit going, Ron's in blue, cut. And then it was done. But it's funny that Ben Schwartz, you know, that thing of the record, I was always trying to put that into something.
42:23And I think there was some scene with John Ralphio where I was trying to do a thing where it's like the record's peeding and then the record's slow, and it never made it in, and then I put it in Master None. I put it in an episode of Master None where we do the fast record. You do have a gift for slowing it down. That's impressive. There were some people that were audiophiles. They were like, that was really accurate, the way he slowed that wave file down. There's just something about it where, you know, that job was just so, and I don't mean this in a derogatory way, that was the easiest, funnest job I will ever have.
42:59I mean, to work with that group. and you know when you think about how much more work when i do master none or a film like this i'm i'm like the parent you know i'm i'm like a parent who's like rounding up a bunch of kids like a hundred kids to go on a field trip or something and and and then in in parks and rec i'm just a kid i just show up i you know oh what are we saying okay got it treat yourself and then And I go home. And it's the best. I mean, and when I see that stuff, I remember little things. Like, I think I remember asking Reddit, like, hey, is it okay if I call you my Nubian princess?
43:39And also just seeing that, like, see it. I'm like, what? This is such a silly, like, fun show that, like, I'm wearing that jacket and jumping in. Why is there a DJ in the office introducing me? Like, it was just a fun world they created for us to play. And you would be like, oh, who am I doing stuff with today? Oh, Retta. Oh, who tomorrow? Oh, Adam Scott. Aubrey. Just like the funniest, not only the funniest people, but really like some of the best people I've ever met in my life. But in a great way, it's going to follow you the rest of your life. And it's going to be like you're going to probably be in a restaurant like in 30 years and someone's going to send over something with like a message and says like, treat yourself.
44:17Enjoy this. I love that it's part of my career, especially because there's not a ton of shows like that now that are made for that many episodes. It's also something that kids can enjoy, and a lot of kids have been discovering the show. So that's been fun to meet a whole generation of kids that have discovered the show. It's so cool. But yeah, I'm so proud to have been part of that group. And yeah, it always makes me smile when I see little moments like that.
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45:34So briefly, just on your background, for those that don't know, you know, you grew up the son of immigrants, South Carolina. Not like a family that has any history of this. Like, was there a moment when you kind of like had to sit them down and say, like, I'm really serious about this? Like, was that a bit like doctor parents? Like, that must have been shocking to have their kids say, I want to be a stand up or artist in some way or no. I never really had that conversation. I was doing stand up while I was in school. I think one thing that made a big difference is I never dropped out of school.
46:05I finished school. So I didn't have to be like, hey, I'm dropping out of school to do this thing that is, you know, you know, one in a million shot happening. and um uh they i think once i think there was definitely a window where they were like what is this but i think once i started getting in magazines and doing things that seemed more legitimate i think they started getting it and then by the time you know i remember at one point you know they came and saw me when i did carnegie hall and and i think they were like oh wow this is uh you know this is real this is something that he's doing uh doing well at in in the early days before even Parks and Recreation, you must have been auditioning like a ton.
46:47Like, was it tough to, I mean, again, I can only imagine we progressed a little bit, hopefully, but like it must have been a lot of stereotypical roles that you were up for back then. It's interesting. You know, I remember when I first had an agent, they would send me stuff that was all like, it was like the episode we did at Masternone about the guy having to audition and everything was something where they asked him to do an Indian accent. And I would get that stuff. And I said hey, I don't I don't want to do this kind of stuff I'd rather just do stuff where I'm playing a guy that's more like myself and sounds like me or whatever And I think there was a confusion of just like we don't think that's possible And I don't think it was coming from any kind of mean way I think they were just like this is not really a thing.
47:29We don't really understand what you mean And then I remember Mindy Kaling was on the office and that became like the first thing you pointed back You see this is there's nothing, you know, this is just about her being funny but I did a sketch show for MTV called Human Giant and that was something that I wrote with Rob Hubel and Paul Shearer and Jason Wollner and we had this sketch group and we got a show on MTV that we did and then after that I came to LA because I wanted to act more and it was one of those things like Aubrey has a story like this where she came to LA and she was this kind of interesting lady from New York and right away famously booked funny people parks and rec and scott pilgrim and i kind of had a similar thing like i came and i i got a guest arc on like scrubs and i got a part in a couple of little movies and but the big thing was i got parks and rec and and then i i uh i we decided not to do a third season of the sketch show and i i did parks but i didn't i never had the thing like i remember i auditioned for something And I, what did I, I remember, I definitely did audition for stuff I didn't get, but never in this kind of long slog where I was very fortunate and I got stuff pretty quick.
48:45Yeah, I think you told way back when, like, the Transformers story. Oh, yeah. Transformers. What was the story that I was, that we wanted me to play a guy in a call center. Guy with an accent. Yeah, yeah. And then my friend did it, Ravi Patel. And then we did a Master Nun episode about the whole thing. Right, right. Again, wild world. And then, oh, yeah, I remember one time I went in for some movie. This is why I like writing my own stuff. I went in for some movie. It was Tooth Fairy. It was that Tooth Fairy movie. And I was like, oh, I'll go in for Tooth Fairy. Like, the rock's cool. And then I remember I did the audition, and they weren't laughing.
49:19And it was kind of like in a mean way. And I'm like, well, fuck you, man. You're the ones making the Tooth Fairy. This isn't my shit here. Like, you know. Yeah, this isn't classic comedy. They're just getting me in a cold room. And I'm like, all right, well, you're the ones making, you're the ones going to have your names on the credit of Tooth Fairy. So blessings to you, friends. It did have a great tagline. You can't handle the tooth. It's a pretty great. That is good. Pretty good. You know what Vin Diesel says when he sees that poster? Hi, Dwayne. There it is. I will say, you glossed over Human Giant.
49:52If you don't know Human Giant, look at this. There's stuff on YouTube. Shutterbugs, Illusionators. Oh, yeah, yeah. Some great stuff. No, there's some fun stuff there. And, yeah, there's some stuff that probably hasn't aged well. But the stuff that has, yeah. I mean, the sketch that they liked at Parks and Rec that, you know, they were like, this sketch got you this show. The premise was that me and Rob Hubel were on a talk show that Paul was hosting. He was doing a news segment about viral videos. And Rob had made a viral video from using, like, a pair of, like, garden shears. And he cut his penis off.
50:29and it went viral and he was talking about being viral. And then he's like, oh, we have this other guy. He's also went viral and it was me and I went viral just for making a bunch of funny faces. And we're both just talking about our experiences. And that was really fun. Oh my God. Okay. Is Master of None, is the door open? Do you imagine you would ever revisit that in some way? No, I'd probably just do a different show or something like that at this point. And, you know, yeah, I mean, I love that show, and I think it's a good time capsule of New York, especially, you know, it's like 10 years old now.
51:08So it's, yeah, I feel like at this point I just create a new show. And the ambitions going forward, I know you have a couple scripts. You mentioned sci-fi one. Like, are they all over the place genre-wise, or where are you at? I had this comedy thing I was going to make. I was actually going to make this other movie this summer. I was going to try to sneak it in right before I had to do all the promo stuff for good fortune. And then like four weeks out, we just couldn't pull it together. But I want to make that one. And then I finished this sci-fi idea. And yeah, I'd love to make all these. It's just such a tricky time to get these movies made and stuff.
51:52I mean, that's why I'm like, you know, a lot of people say this stuff about, oh, man, you had to go through so much to get this. But it's like, I'm here. We did it like that. It's so hard. There's so many people I know that are friends of mine. I sometimes think it, too. And then I, you know, I have people that are friends that have been trying to get stuff made for years and they haven't been able to. Very talented people, good ideas and things. And it's just hard because, you know, it's just a weird time in the industry. So I'd love to make both those and other things. It'd be great. On the acting side, you kind of are spoiled when you get to be the creator and write yourself these fun roles.
52:28Do you have the ambition to work in other people's sandboxes, or is your focus right now creating your own stuff? Oh, it'd be great if the right thing came along. That would be amazing. But yeah, I was talking to someone about this earlier, about the idea of I've never been one to wait for the phone to ring. I just build my own phone, but I still have a phone too. So if someone wants to call, I'm happy to take the call. You didn't literally build your own phone. Just I want to be clear. It's an analogy. Okay. I take things very literally. Your first time on the podcast. So we're going to do the happy second few's profoundly random questions, Aziz.
53:05Are you ready for this? Ready. Yes. Dogs or cats? Dogs. I'm allergic to cats. My wife had a cat and she had to give it up to be with me. That's love. Yeah. Dedication. Yeah, she's like, they have these shots that can maim. I'm like, no, they don't. What do you collect, if anything? What do I collect? Nothing really. Espresso cups? I drink a lot of espresso, so sometimes when we're traveling, I'll get an espresso cup, local ceramics. Seth made me an espresso cup. He's something of a... He's a gifted ceramicist. And yeah, it's an impressive little piece. Do you have a favorite video game of all time?
53:51Oh, probably Goldeneye from Nintendo 64. That's definitely my era. What about you? I was a Sega kid, so I'm like Sonic. Ben Schwartz. There you go. I shouldn't, given what he said about me, but yes. This is the Dakota Johnson Memorial question. She asked me this. I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt? Wow, this is lose-lose Or win-win I'm going to deal with the one bee in the butt Because that feels like he might get out of there But the mouthful, they're going to stick around That's the consensus I think that's the correct answer How did that become the She asked me that once randomly And it felt worthy to ask everyone for some reason Here we are What's the wallpaper on your phone?
54:40Wallpaper Background on your phone I don't know. I don't think there is. I have like an old flip phone. It's just whatever was there. A blue. Are you playing like the old games? I have played Snake before, yeah. It has Snake on there. And sometimes when we were editing, I'd be waiting for our editor, Daniel Hayworth, to do some technical stuff, and I would play Snake. And I got up to like 180. That was my high score. And one time I was like, hey, just give me a minute. and I kept playing Snake. And he's like, really, man? I'm like, but it's almost my high score. That's worthy. Last actor you were mistaken for?
55:20Last actor I was mistaken for? I mean, it's either Hassan or Kumail. But, you know, what's interesting is I don't really take offense to that because some people are like, oh, those people are racist. I don't think it's racism because, you know, I remember when we did Parks and Rec, people would sometimes think I was Danny Pudi. But then I talked to Adam Scott, and he's like, no, people think I'm Joel McHale. And it's just people just get confused. I don't think you need to jump to the race card there. Very generous. What's the worst note a director has ever given you? Oh. I don't know. I don't know names, but does anything stick out that felt like, ooh?
56:02I don't know. I never had anything bad. I think I've been in stuff that I thought was bad and been like, this doesn't matter. Okay, whatever you need.
56:12And in the spirit of Happy Second Fused, who's an actor who always makes you happy, you see them on screen, you're in. Kiki. Kiki Palmer. Kiki right away. On screen, but in real life more so. On screen too, but Kiki, I remember we'd be shooting and I'd be like, and then Kiki would show up and I would light up. I love Kiki so much. She's one of my favorite people I've ever met. She can do anything. She's one of these. Yeah, she's unbelievably talented. And even when we were doing some of the press stuff for Good Fortune, God, she'd make me laugh so, so hard. I can't even grasp the level of talent she has.
56:50Movie that makes you sad, generally. You ever seen Make Room for Tomorrow? I haven't. It's famously sad. You know Tokyo Story. Yeah. Tokyo Story, Ozu supposedly was inspired by Make Way from Toronto. Again, to bring it back to being mortal, it's about an older couple. But it's a famously sad movie, and Orson Welles has a quote about it where he says, it would make a stone cry. And it's that fucking sad. It's pretty sad. I'm trying to think of what else is... What's that? This is a good... I haven't thought of a list of, like, really sad. I always go to, like, I think of Terms of Endearment. I think of Cinema Paradiso.
57:38You know, a lot of people go to Up, the early sequence. Oh, yeah. That's one of the greatest things ever, right? That opening sequence. Yeah, that's heartbreaking. And, yeah, no dialogue, anything. It's really, really impressive. This is the last question, most importantly. Food that makes you confused. You don't understand. Why do people eat that? Oh. Can't support it. I must know this. food that makes me confused. I shouldn't spend this long. This is the one that's thumping. But I want to get it right. Do you have an answer? Well, you know, I go to like beets. I can't get behind beets. They were really pushing beets hard.
58:17There was a lot of roasted beet salad. It's been tough the last couple years for me. Yeah, yeah. But it seems like it's gone away a little bit. It's my time to shine with the cinnamon rolls. I can get behind that. You love cinnamon rolls. Yeah. Look at me. Of course I do. What about cardamom buns? Cardamom bun? Cardamom buns. It's hard to say. Cardamom buns. I'm up for that, yeah. Yeah, that's nice too. But the food that makes me confused.
58:43I was going to say celery, but sometimes I like celery. I like celery when it's in stuffing and when it's in chicken salad or tuna salad, so I don't want to throw celery under the bus. You can love everything. I don't want to force you to hate something. It's okay. And positive. Yeah, I try to keep a positive vibe, so I'm going to say...
59:04I'm excited for you. I'm excited what's to come. Hopefully the next collaboration will involve Vin Diesel and beyond. Vin Diesel. I'm wishing that into existence for you. I just want him in every movie, honestly. Yeah. Have you ever seen what's the movie, Find Me Guilty? Yeah, Cindy Lament. How is that? Eh, that's okay. Yeah, okay. This one's a great one, though. Congratulations. Oh man, thank you so much. Thank you guys. So a couple quick things I'm going to say. Like I said, spread the good word of this. This is on the big screen, a big comedy. We need to see more of these. So please support Aziz, support this movie, spread the good word.
59:42Give it up for Aziz. Yay!
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