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1:14Hook, hook, hook, hook, slash, slash. It's like Morse code, but for angry fishermen who are hellbent on exacting revenge on teenagers. Oh my God. It's a niche focus group, but they're out there. I love it. Yeah. Oh, they're out there. They're out there. There are at least four of those guys. Be safe. They are out there. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now. Hey, guys. It's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Today's main event, we have a first-time guest on the podcast, very popular young actress. I'm so thrilled to welcome you to the show for the first time.

1:55It's Madeline Klein. If you have an Outer Banks fan in your life, if you're an Outer Banks fan, if you're OBX obsessive, what's the term? I don't know. If you're an Outer Banks person, this one is for you. But also if you just love to kind of track entertaining, fun, charismatic, cool young stars, you're going to dig this. Madeline is a live wire, a fun, fun conversation. So thrilled to have her. Her new movie is I Know What You Did Last Summer. It opens next week in theaters. That is the main event on Happy Say I Confused today. Briefly, I'll mention, as always, if you want early access to this and all our episodes, if you want bonus materials, you know what to do by now.

2:37Patreon.com slash happy say I confused is your friend for all things Josh Horowitz. As I said, early access, discount codes, heads up on live events. We do a ton of live events. So check out what we do over there. It helps us do more over here. Patreon.com slash happy, sad, confused. All right. Some brief context for this conversation with Madeline. Madeline swung into New York for like literally a day. And I'm so thrilled. She did make some time for me and my little old show. I've done a few things with Madeline, especially around Glass Onion. If you remember, she was so great in that film. And kudos to Madeline for like, you know, not only getting that plum role in Rian Johnson's Knives Out sequel, but more than holding her own against the likes of Daniel Craig, Janelle Monae, Catherine Han, Edward Norton.

3:27I mean, the list goes Dave Bautista. The list goes on and on and on. And she was so fantastic in that. And she really registered for me in that film. And then I know, I know the OBX fans out there. I know you're out there. I know you love Madeline and I get it. She is so fun. She is a ball of energy. she is yeah it was it was a kind of a wild weird random conversation but i love those i loved riding the wave with madeline klein i feel like she made me feel 20 years younger or older i'm not sure i definitely felt old but i also felt like okay this is my cheat code for what a 27 year old young woman feels and talks about nowadays so if you're not 27 and female perhaps this will give you a clue as to the mindset of a 27 year old young woman nowadays in terms of pop culture references and just the way they speak, et cetera.

4:18God, do I sound old right now talking? I do. I'm going to stop talking. Okay. So Madeline Klein, main guest on Happy, Sad Confused. Of course, she is the star of Outer Banks. She is also the star of I Know What You Did Last Summer. Yes, it is the sequel. It's weird that it has the same name. I'm going to say it just like scream. Why do you call it the same thing? I don't know. Take it up with someone else, not me. Anyway, I Know What You Did Last Summer opens next week in theaters. It is Madeline. It's Chase Sweet Wonder, who I also adore. And then it has some of the legacy actors from the original, including Freddie Prinze Jr.

4:53And not Sarah Michelle Gellar because she died in the first one. But oh, of course, Jennifer Love Hewitt. Amazing. So a nice thing for those of us that grew in the 90s. So old. Okay, enjoy this conversation. It's a wild one. Me and Madeline Klein. Madeline, it's official. You're on the podcast. We're on the pod officially. Thank you for doing this. Thank you. You're in the middle of a lot of things. You've got the whole OBX thing is back. The vote show is back. The vote show is back. Oh, yeah. And you're sneaking away for basically 24 hours of press, if that. Pretty much. You snuck me in. I appreciate you.

5:31Of course. You snuck me in. You know what else I snuck in? Fashion icon, Madeline Klein. What are you selling here? What are you trying to give off? What's the vibe?

5:45Maybe shrooms. I'm like a secret shroom dealer. Secret shroom dealer. That's, yeah, okay, good, good. She's a woman of many talents. Yeah, like, where am I going? Probably Thai Village for dinner. Okay. And then probably just, you know, doing some drop-offs afterwards. Okay. And then I have a gala. You have a gala. Yeah. That's how you roll. That's what my outfit. Oh, you should have told me it was for the podcast. Oh, okay. You were happy, sad, confused. You were like, get out the ball gowns, get out high fashion. Yes, it is giving happy, sad, confused all these different elements happening here.

6:23That's the confused. It's like, wait, what? Yes. And then the nail polish sad. What's the tattoo? Oh, it is no I got it last summer And it's the cure lyrics Or lyrics to a song I don't want to like I want people to figure it out. Okay. Okay. Yeah, like maybe if there's one day on my wiki feet There's a high-res picture That ends up maybe then no do you maintain your own wiki feet? Or do you let someone else is that like an open source? How does that work? Yeah, that's an open source because I think that's probably the most unbiased. Right, you want the truth. You don't want to skew your own vision of your feet.

7:00No, no, no. I did not expect the podcast to start that way. Let's get the important stuff out of the way. You are spreading a good word on I Know What You Did Last Summer. Yes, yes. Which I haven't had an opportunity to see yet. They haven't shown it to me, so I can only assume it's the best movie ever made. I've seen the first 45 minutes. Okay. And I can say that it is the best movie ever made. Knife, knife, hook, hook. Is that all the script is? Just this knife, knife, hook, hook? Slashy stab. That's the direction on it. More slashy stab on this one, Madeline. Yes, especially with like this.

7:39Yes, it is the slashy stabby ever. Wow. Congrats on that. Thanks. Um, so, you know, I'm 95 years old. So my relationship to the original, yeah, 95. Wish me a happy birthday, please. Are they saying it? Wait, who did, who did you? Yeah, it was Oil of Alay. I'm already planning my first. All the skin creams. What was I going to say? Oh, so I have a deep relationship to that first film. I was a sentient human being. I was very much the right age. You were not alive. I hate you. Wait, no, I, oh no, I was only, my mom was about five months away. You were getting there. You were almost there. Almost there.

8:14So relationship to the original, does every kid nowadays still see, I know what you did last summer? I think it's one of those, I mean, it is like a cultural zeitgeist. It's crazy. And it is a classic, even if I think people haven't seen it. I think they know of it. Yeah. Like you say, the slashy slashy hook hook fisherman. Everyone knows that. And, and, I know what you did last summer walked, so scream good run. some words like my originals. And what about, look, we have Jennifer Love Hewitt back here. We have Freddie. Freddie Prinze. Freddie Prinze, Jr. We have Sarah Michelle in proximity, at least.

8:57She paid a visit. Yes, the whole family. Yeah, I know. So, I mean, Sarah Michelle means a lot to every young person. She means a lot to me. Right? Oh, my God. So one of the first times I met her, because they just brought the whole family down. It was an Australian vacation. I thought I'd turn that off. You're good. They brought the whole family down for an Australia vacation. And we were, I think I can say this. You can. So my character, Danica, has, I've decided to build into her lore that she's really, really insecure about her shoulders. Okay. And Lisa Renna is her idol because Lisa Renna has a quote that says, I love my shoulders.

9:47I love the way my shoulders look in this top. And I feel like that's one of Danica's affirmations. Yep. She's like, I'm safe from Benson Boone. My shoulders look incredible. You know what I mean? And my branches are always emerging. And so I was telling Freddie and Sarah about this because the whole conversation had happened the night before. And Sarah got me a cameo from Lisa Rinna, but not from the app. Like an actual... It's the most incredible movie ever. It's so... It's pretty long. Yeah, on the cameo app, that probably would have been thousands of dollars. You got it, yeah. Oh, my God. I really, I hit the lottery.

10:29What'd you say? Can you tease a little bit? Should I find it? Yeah. Okay. We'll do it after. Yeah. Let's go with it. But I'll, yes, I will show. I think she'll be okay with it. Yeah. Yeah. If I know Lisa, I think she'll be fine. She's the best. She's so fucking hot. Sorry. So, on the Sarah front, were you a Buffy girl? I mean, did you grow up with Buffy the Vampire Slayer? You know, I, no, I didn't. I haven't watched it. That's okay. No. I wasn't, I think I was a little too scared. Yeah. I was an office girl. You were an office girl. This is your first horror, though, right? Technically, like, full-on horror.

11:04Yeah. Full-on. Yeah, yeah. Yes. That's a rite of passage for any young actor. I think so. Right? But especially one like this. Yeah, if you're going to do it. If you're going to do it. Do it right. Slashy stuff. Slashy hook, hook. Hook, hook, knife, knife. Have you been up for, like, horror things before? Does every young actor go up for the Scream movies nowadays? like I hadn't been up for scream no but there's been like there's been a few more indie horror yeah which also great because a lot of times I feel like they're it there those the more indie films are a little bit more it's about a conversation and like a deeper conversation yeah yeah it's already after crazy stuff like super yeah yeah yeah but also really hard to be in that kind of like headspace every day on set oh yeah um it's a choice but this was like I think I was like okay well if we're gonna do it this is a great one so saying like this you can you can have fun with it like you can commit to it you can do the Lisa Rinna backstory yes but you can also like detach you don't have to live this life right when you go home right um and I would love to do something like that yeah super deep but that is prep yeah so what are the skills that you already had you think that like equipped you for this and what skills didn't you have like you've done the physical stuff obviously but this is a different kind of thing I would imagine or you tell me like what what didn't you have going into this what did you have going into this um what I did have going into this was um um beta blockers and and uh the time of my life like it was just so fun It was really, truly fun.

12:51I enjoyed every second of it. I mean, Danica's also, she is, she's camp, which is just like, I mean, it's just fun. Like, I don't know, I'm having the time of my life. Yeah. Like, we're literally getting chased around, but Danica's like. She's in her own movie. No, no, no, Danica believes that she is, her life is a movie. Oh, I love it. Yes, she is the main character. Amazing. Yes. And this also feels, I don't know like how you're selecting your parts or not, but it feels like sometimes you're selecting them based on like, I want to go on an adventure somewhere. Yes. Oh, totally. Because everything shoots in Europe and Australia.

13:31You're traveling so, like you're doing it. You're having some great adventures. It seems so much fun. So this was Australia. And again, probably a bunch of new friends, I would imagine, obviously in your age group. So like a whole bunch of new people. And it feels like you're just at the other end of the earth doing your own thing yeah I think it was we had some really really special fun nights all together I mean it was a very quick filming schedule we had about six weeks right in Australia which is fast yeah to get everything done and by golly we did it harsh language okay yeah bleep that out that would be really funny Bye.

14:19And yes, it was really fun. We went to some beautiful beaches for our early wrap slash my birthday party. We went and we got a huge suite at the Crown Hotel and we just had a night ever. Santa was there. Santa was there. Santa was there. The Santa. I do think like we we couldn't if we paid him enough I do think he would have started stripping oh my god this is the official Santa you think with enough money you're saying the real Santa would actually strip I think he was I think that was actually Santa wow I believe in you I believe in your magic I know I think so I I don't not believe in the magic yeah but also it was funny because gab gabriette saw him first

15:12and she immediately like she's like oh my god take my phone and she's he's passing out candy canes as santa does and she's and has like a silver metallic bikini she puts her hair over and she's like immediately starts going into a full-blown photo shoot yeah sexy santa shoot i've never seen anything like it how did santa handle the he loved it yeah of course he did knowing Santa. Yeah, and he gave him as a candy cane. I'm not going to comment on that. I'm going to move on.

15:43As mentioned, you just literally started Outer Banks the final season. Like, you're like, day one was, yeah, a couple days ago. Yeah, yeah, day one, yeah, Monday. So how, I mean, it's premature to say how does it feel, but, like, how does it feel? Like, are you, is it hitting all of you yet? I think, yes, it's hitting all of us. but it's so funny because we've been in the thick of it for six or seven years and there has been time, I mean it's not it kicks our asses, it's a tough show to shoot, it's very physically demanding, but I always come back and I'm like oh fuck I forgot how much stamina you need to have to keep up with this show and the elements that we shoot in but it's so funny because sometimes we go back and we're like yeah I'm tired yeah and this season I think because we realize it's our last time you're trying to enjoy it you know now it's like oh my god our very first day back it was our last birthday right Right, everything's going to be the last.

16:54Everything's the last. I think that's what's hitting everyone. So everyone has this really, really incredible attitude of gratitude. It is like Sesame Street. Or, no, sorry, Mr. Rogers. Yes, an attitude of gratitude. I like that. Yes. So have you read all the scripts yet? No. No, you never get them all at once, right? What do you know? How much do you know about the do you know how this all ends up we have five scripts? Okay, so we were chasing I was shooting our first scene back and I was like He was giving me spark notes He was giving me like the bullet points I was like, okay, got it, got it, okay.

17:44And actually, and go. And then I guess it worked. It was kind of like, it reminded me of the cue cards or like having a thing in your ear. And I got a great compliment that day from her director. I was like, hmm. Well, the people that can't see it, but you have a little IFB in your ear right now that's feeding you every answer to this podcast. This is all scripted. I'm actually a clone. This is AI Madeline. Sarah's still pregnant, JJ's still dead, these things are still canon. Yes, all still canon. It's funny because people were asking me if the baby is dead or is still alive, and I was like, no.

18:29And then Netflix was like, no spoilers. I was like, what do you think? That's not a spoiler. but it's also really funny because I met I actually I was here a couple weeks ago and I met a little boy who was a big fan of the show he's like he but he thought I was pregnant in real life sure and um he like what happened I don't know but it was basically he basically was like wait why aren't you fat oh god I was like I got it don't worry about it just yeah how do you even respond to that that's tough I know I was like enjoy the show what did you like to know wait it turned it turned mean by the way there is no Santa yeah hi hi in the face I met Santa and I'm gonna tell him about you yeah you're naughty you're on the naughty list you're the worst knife knife the ulterior motive of course look I wanted to have you on the podcast for a while but I do have two nieces of that age really oh yeah Sadie and Sienna a sweet Horowitz are very very excited about this thank you for giving me some some brownie points what do I mean the intensity of the fandom look I've talked to a lot of actors over the years with certain kinds of fandom And this is one of those.

19:53Yes, it is. This is one of those. Yes. I mean, can you give me a sense of sort of like, what are the intense fan interactions you do get? Are there typical reactions? Does it ever get too much? Like, what's the... I think there's a very typical reaction when someone is, you know, does recognize or sees me is like, it's a scream or a squeal or a screech. Right. Or a gas. and like you know it's like today I was I've been running late all day but I was in these my fabulous yep slides and then my sleep shorts and a giant t-shirt with Jesse Joe on the back my eye patches hair not brushed and still hadn't showered everything I was in a mess yeah and and then it was one of those moments where I was like, please, please, please.

20:48Right, right, right. And it can get intense. I think sometimes when it comes to privacy or anonymity, especially where I live or where I'm going, where I'm traveling to or hotels or even bathrooms, I'm like, no. Yeah, there are limits. There are boundaries. I go pee pee now. And usually two over there. Right. Yeah, so that's when it gets a little intense. Yeah, I would imagine that. And there's no way to teach you that. That's just something you kind of learn as you go. Yeah, and some people are just like, some people are better at it than others, which is fine. I mean, it's like, yeah, I don't know how to describe it.

21:35And people are like, how do you deal with it? Do you ever have the experience of hearing people talk about the show or you and not realizing you're there? like like not recognizing you like they're watching it on a plane or whatever that happens yeah I've had that I think it was season two or something or season three I can't remember but there were multiple people watching it on a plane and I'm sure even like also glass onion too that was probably on every plane first period of time that was really cool yeah yeah I think it actually still was on my flight back from Europe yeah yeah it's very cool It's a good one to rewatch.

22:13I was so fit. I was in such good shape. You're a mess now. I really have. I've let myself go. You know, I did have a conversation. I doubt you saw this, but I did have a conversation the other day with Dakota Johnson and Chris Evans. Oh, yes. Oh, my God. That was in the group chat. We sent that to the Poops group chat. It's so funny. She's funny. I love her. I'm obsessed with her. As you should be. Let me play it again for you to react. Just tell me. This is my favorite thing. Could a pogue and a kook really fall in love? Josh, what the are you talking about? What are these words? What's happening?

22:52You love Outer Banks. That's your favorite show next to - It's my favorite show. The Summer I Turned Pretty and then Outer Banks. Yes, starring Louisa and Jacob Tremblay. And - And, like, I don't know if you're joking or if you're being hilarious. Dominic Cooper. Dominic Cooper. Oh, I love Dominic Cooper. He's not on the show for the record. He's not. Who else is on Outer Banks? Man, well, shout out to Dom Cooper. So what was it like when you saw that they had no idea what... I wasn't surprised. Yeah. I'm never surprised when people are like, I haven't watched it. I'm like, I haven't either. Yeah, it would be obnoxious to just assume everybody knows.

23:32Yeah, totally. But, yes, that's the right attitude. Yeah, but I thought it was so funny. and Madison sent it in the group chat. She was like, oh, buddy, we're fucked. I was like, we're cooked. Absolutely cooked. Yeah, I saw Chase commented on the MTV post with a whelp. I'm like, oh.

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27:50Okay, it's going to be a long shoot this last season. So you're going to have time to process all of this. Yes. But talk to me a little bit about the choices you're starting to make. You've been making the last couple of years and taking the best opportunities when you've had time. Yeah. Like, are you already like you won't have the security blanket of Outer Banks? That's the scariest part I would imagine. Yes, that is to me, I think the one mindfuck of it all. It's like because it's been it's been a better part of my 20s. Yeah. And it's always it is a security blanket that I always go back to.