Monica Barbaro

27:12This is a lot. This is a lot. Is this meant to be? Is this the right move? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. And I had a lot of people go like, you never sequel Top Gun. And then we did and we did well. So I don't want to say like, don't do it. Don't touch it. I think those women can do anything. And I will show up and watch it. I have such high hopes for it that I just. It's a sacred text. We get it. It's a sacred text. We get it. Yes. What are the other couple ones you knew by heart you wore out on VHS? I'm trying to remember now. A Bug's Life. Sure. Which I watched that again. It's those things that you watch and then you like, you feel like you're back in your childhood.

27:52Yeah. Yeah. A Bug's Life. I read. Wait, here's a couple that you named at some point. The Cuaron Harry Potter. Azkaban was that a big one yeah yes but that was that what I'm a little older that wasn't like that was coming out in theaters in my teens okay gotcha galaxy quest yeah I respect for you I love that movie so much talk about a perfect movie it's such a perfect movie I think I watched it with the director's commentary as well amazing no I I've been privileged enough to get to know like Justin Long and Sam Rockwell and had them on for like an anniversary podcast like a year or two ago just because why not that's fun Alan Rickman in that movie is so brilliant he's so talk about like theater at the national and also the liaisons that was like the thing that right that play supposedly was a part of what launched well it was like diehard really but right in the sort of acting industry world he really popped off with that play I always think about people don't die I heard was his film debut.

28:58He was like 40 years old. Yeah. He had lived a life in the theater and then the film world discovered him. Okay, we're jumping all around. Sorry, yeah. No, no, this is perfect. Sigourney Weaver in that movie too. Like leaning into that trope of a woman and doing it with so much heart and embracing the real person underneath. Like I just love the way she did that. And I'm sure as like you've like grown in the industry and kind of like seen the facade, what we project and what's behind it, it kind of becomes richer too, like you were saying. Yeah. Well, and like what fun, because she's also known for being such a powerful woman.

29:40And waiting into the sex appeal of like a bimbo character. Yeah. Yeah. People's inability to like see someone cross those, and then her to just go full bore and be like, I can do this too. and also give her a depth of soul that like is just brilliant. I love that. Dogs and Galaxy Quest. We can talk forever. I'm so sorry. No, no. I love it. This is what the podcast is. So how hardcore, like how quickly did you get into dance? Like was it like an obsession early on? Was it like this is going to be my life? Like. No, I was like I was put in dance. All my siblings were. Yeah. And I was just in it.

30:20and I think it was adjacent enough to acting and I really loved The Nutcracker because I would get to sort of be characters, at least at first.

30:33And I had a knack for it and my parents, I think, found it to be a very respectable art form because it's, I mean, they love the classic arts but also it's special. Right. It's not something that everyone can do. And so I stayed in it for a long time, but kind of knew I wanted to act. In the back of your head. It's such a, so you come to NYU, and you're studying dance, like that's still the intent to like, that's gonna be the career? Or is it in the back of your mind, are you thinking this is not gonna be long term? Like this is still. Yeah, like I think I knew. I feel like it's the equivalent of a relationship that you're in and you know that it's not the one.

31:16But you're like. It's hard to break it. Yeah, there's a lot of really great qualities about it. And yeah, it's a big leap to go, no, I will not, because I was just so in it, to go, no, I will not do that anymore. I will break up with this life that I'm leading, that I'm very clearly down a specific path for and totally pivot into the unknown. And the pipe dream is how I sort of felt it would be perceived and how I maybe judged it to be myself. I'll preface this by saying that I love and adore Timothy Chalamet. He's been on the podcast multiple times. When he made his comments about dance, about ballet.

31:57You're the first person to ask me about this. Did you text him? Did you say, I love you, buddy, but come on, did you say something? I mean, no, I didn't. I don't know. I can't possibly know exactly where he was coming from when he said that. But one of the conversations we had on set was about his sister being a dancer. And he was actually, he was saying it from a very like hats off respect kind of a place. And so I feel like that was something where he was expressing something in a way that made it sound like it was about a respect for the art form when really I think it is about audiences for that art form.

32:55And I do think audiences are dwindling for those kinds. I mean, government subsidies at the National, that's the best possible place to do theater. And yet, they have less than they ever have. And no other theater is doing it like that. And those tickets are getting more and more expensive. While in New York, they're like three, four times that to go to a Broadway show. So he's not diminished. I totally agree with you, by the way. speak for, you know, like what he was. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt too, because I feel like it's more about like, it's not diminishing the art form, it's more a commentary on like, we don't celebrate, we're not, the world is not giving these art forms the love, the centering that they deserve.

33:41Yeah. In a way. Yeah, I don't, again, like I don't know that that's what he was saying, but that's my personal takeaway where, I mean, I'm a Gemini, I try to see all sides. I think, I think, I think in a way, I'm just like, there is some truth to that statement in a way that I would like to not lead with offense. Yeah, margain. You know? Yeah, yeah. But also, like, it's very much his business to express, you know, what he did or didn't mean and why and how he feels about any of it. Don't worry. I'm not just trying to start the Monica Timmy beef today. Don't worry. No, no. And I'm not trying to avoid beef either.

34:25I just think, yeah, it's wild to be on both sides of it, to sometimes be a part of something that goes viral in some capacity, and then also to be away from it and have it pop up on your phone and be like, did you hear? Right. I think things feel so differently when you're there in the present moment than the way they're received, and the way it's received is almost its own tidal wave of experience. 100%. which sometimes in press tours people are optimizing. So there's that. But it, yeah, it makes it more complex than, yeah, I don't know. No, I got you. Totally, totally. So the transition out of NYU and starting to kind of double down on acting, not necessarily easy, to say the least, at first.

35:17There's unemployment. There's years of unemployment, of lack of any opportunity, right? Like you just weren't getting auditions for a while from what I gather. Well, I moved back home to Mill Valley and was auditioning in San Francisco. I got a book at the, what was it, Borders? Okay. Union Square. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No longer exists. And it was called How to Be a Working Actor. Sure. And it was like how to build your resume, basically, and like what to do. Take class, idiot. And then one of the things was, you know, it can be helpful to be in a smaller market. And those were the ones they sourced for San Francisco and Chicago.

36:02And I was like, well, I have no money. And there's a bed bug epidemic in New York. And it's the hottest summer on record. And I have no money. so I'll probably just move home and try out San Francisco and I did and I used my dance resume and oh yeah my rent was like going up but no one owned the building it was like just post recession it was like a nightmare so yeah I moved home I used my dance NYU resume I was honest but I just listed dance performance and I was able to do I did a lot of like short films with the Academy of Art Universities out there, San Francisco State University, some recent graduates were making like a really cool indie short film.

36:49They just threw all their money into this thing. But it was a great time. And like commercial work and event and I would meet people on those projects who were like, Oh, yeah, I have an agent, you should meet my agent. And then, you know, and then I started working commercially. And I kind of hit the ceiling of that pretty quickly as I also then I started training there with like theater material and you know not what I was doing professionally but developing my craft and then eventually I went down to LA. And is that where? Then I had a period of like. That's before Unreal. Unreal is years later.

37:31It's a couple years. Yeah I think a couple years later. Weirdly

37:39I got my SAG card and I think in the commercial world it became 10 times harder to book a commercial with my SAG card. Because you're getting a higher rate because you're part of a union? Because the non-union game was like and I think the way things were developing on streaming and YouTube and internet commercials were sort of this like Like it's hard for organizations to move. It's like what's happening, I think, with AI. It's hard for organizations to move through developing new contracts through their sort of like bureaucratic systems that can keep up with the rate of technology developing.

38:23And I think that I think SAG commercial actors were having that struggle maybe still. I don't know. um so it so it was suddenly like because i could only do sag commercials um but also the work was so much more protected on those commercials like their benefits obviously if you get them yes yes yes but it it just became like the funnel hole got so much smaller yeah um so yeah that so i had a couple of years where and then i just needed like great reps which i got who were very connected and I was training that whole time and wondering if I should continue and I dog walked for a living, I bartended a little bit, I uh, yeah.

39:11Is Unreal the moment where you could stop doing the side hustles? Yeah. Yeah. Is that a moment, I mean, when you think of like the big moments, getting the Oscar nomination, getting Top Gun, getting A Complete Unknown, in its own way was getting Unreal like, as significant? Yeah. Maybe one of the most in my body because it felt like a confirmation that I could be a working actor. It wasn't a guarantee. I like hoarded all my money and was terrified I'd never work again. But it was like, okay, you can work in this industry. That was like, oh, it's no longer an absolute pipe dream. You have a job.

39:54And in the years between that, you're working, like leading up to Top Gun, which is kind of arguably the next major step. Sure. You're doing a bunch of series. They kind of come and go, right? But those all felt, each one of them felt like, I'm working. Yeah, absolutely. You know? No, no diminishment. I mean, that's. And like growing up watching Dick Wolf, and then I got a Dick Wolf show. I was like, I'm the second chair, and I'll be in my suit. Totally. You know, this is everything. Legal jargon. Let's have it. Let's do it. Did you see like a path like in terms of like what kind of roles people were seeing you for?

40:28Like were you happy with kind of like the trajectory you were on then from like 2016 to 2018 when you go up for Top Gun? I think every I realized quickly that every time I did something I was given or. Well, yeah, given opportunity to audition for more roles that were exactly the same. And so I was like, OK, I have to make a concerted effort to pivot. Right. Like there was something I turned down, shockingly, like right after Unreal that felt very much like Unreal energetically. That's a big thing to say no at any point in your career, let alone in that relatively early part. I know. But it was the kind of thing where they were also paying very, very little money and they would hold you for like a year and a half after.

41:12I had good advisors. That's the other thing about reps is like they're good advisors. Yeah. And so it was like you might be stuck under this contract and you are getting love from other projects. so you can pass on this. And that's what working gives you too, is like a little bit of confidence to do that. And then, you know, from that, a legal show was like, yes, super different. And then just kept trying to pivot. More Happy Say Confused coming up.

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43:19so when top gun comes around that is so unusual for a thousand different reasons um i mean you know when you sign up for that you're signing up not only just like for an acting gig it's almost like you're like joining like the military or something it's like you're like learning all these skills like it's it's a very unusual yeah experience to say the least yeah did you kind of did Tom and Joe kind of like Jerry kind of outline for you what was going to be like were you shocked at kind of like what that job turned into yeah in a way I knew we Joe told me in um an audition that he was like are you claustrophobic I was like no and he was like are you able to swim I said yes this is top gun right aren't we going up yeah wait what um which also I'm not a super confident swimmer actually um and i was like um yeah why he was like well because we're going to be just casually we're going to be flying and you guys are going to be in these jets in the movie and you have if there's an emergency you have to do an emergency ejection and you have to swim for survival and i was like cool this didn't come up in the unreal audition yeah so strange it's never come up before.

44:36Yeah. So I did know but I'm I guess kind of a crazy person because that just made me more excited to do it because I was like when in my life am I ever going to get to do that again? If push came to shove could you fly a plane right now? If we need a pilot in an emergency do you know enough? I it's been so long since we filmed the movie. I could potentially fly a Cessna Okay. Like we learned how to do all the procedures for a Cessna, not a jet. Got it. Because it's also like classified. The military will not let you. But the Cessna, maybe. It's been a minute. There's a lot of. I'm not turning to you first.

45:24I got you. It would need gas. It would need, you know, hopefully there's not like a mountain range and bad air because that's how. Right. Bad things happen. Really bad things happen. Yeah. Did. Bad air. That's how educated I am. That's in the manual, right? The air was bad. I don't know. How fixed was that script? Like, was it evolving? My sense is it evolved a lot, right? Yeah. Did your role evolve a lot? Did it change? Did it get bigger or smaller? Did Phoenix's function in the script change?

45:56It was pretty, like, size-wise, it was pretty much the same. There was a little, who cares? I was like, am I allowed to say this? There was like a tidbit where John Hamm, we shot a couple of scenes that are not in the movie where John Hamm was trying to get me and Lewis Pullman, who plays Bob, to out Maverick for being irresponsible. And they were not, actually, John Hamm leaned across the desk at one point, And he goes, this scene's going to be cut. And I was just there like, I have to make every moment count. And I was like, got it. You're like, challenge accepted. I'm going to make it count.

46:39No, I was fully like, no, we're here for no purpose. And Lewis had worked with Jon Hamm on a movie like right before that. So it was funny. They were like super cordial. We were just laughing about it. And we're like, OK. But yeah, yeah. Crazy. I think they even had me like in a hospital bed after the emergency ejection. so I had like a cut and yeah and good riddance it was not right but I love that film that film will always be a miracle of miracles the way it like turned out and I will never forget the first time I saw it like I think many people share that like it was just like where did you see it?

47:16we saw early screening so no one had seen it no I didn't see it at CinemaCon but because MTV was hosting that premiere they let us see it relatively early so there were no expectations I mean there were expectations but it was like more of like how good can this possibly be yeah did anyone prime you or no not really not really how it must have been a little bit i mean i talked to the other actors and like there must have been a period of frustration because it was sitting on the shelf for so damn long oh yeah like you i think we bonded we like kind of trauma bonded on the movie just because it was like so intense and hard and we also were experiencing something no other actor could quite relate to yeah in that way of like doing those flights and things and filming up there and all the responsibilities we had in the plane.

48:03But then that period of time where it wouldn't come out, we just would call each, we would hop on FaceTime through COVID. All we had was each other in that. Yeah, yeah. And so it sort of like solidified that bond, which was kind of beautiful in a way, but also, yeah, because we all were in the same place. We were like, I think this movie could do a lot for each and every one of us. And the longer it sits, I mean, I know for me, especially as a woman, I was like, the older I get. Oh, God. Yeah, no, I get it. But yeah. We should talk a little about A Complete Unknown because you kill it in that.

48:38I mean, you were amazing as Joan Baez and thankfully you were, you know, it doesn't always happen where like a film finds the audience and finds the accolades that this one did. Yeah. You got the SAG nomination, the Oscar nomination. I mean, degree of difficulty in that, also insane. You were not a singer. You were not a guitar player as far as I know. Is that sheer terror from day one to the last day on set? Yeah. To it coming out through the Oscars. So, I mean, I hope you take a lot of pride in that because knowing what the degree of difficulty is and then to be not only accomplished it but to be so recognized for it.

49:21I don't know, talk to me, what is the greatest source of pride when you look back at that performance? Is it just sort of like, I did it, I got it done, I checked the box, or is it something more specific, or what? Yeah, I think it's a little bit, maybe again, it's like the out of body looking at it and going like, wow, I did that. That's me, I did it. And I think, yeah, I think it was the first time. I mean, ballet can be a very chaotic head game where you're never enough. You're never doing enough. And I think doing that movie was the first time I was able to hear people when they said I work hard.

50:07I was like, I think I do. I think I work really hard. And I think there's evidence of it now. And it's in a in a way that's not glorifying a like, you know, senseless hustle, but like, but but just honoring of the amount of work that I put in that that felt really wonderful. and I felt like I did what I came there to do to do um in honoring Joan and I learned a lot too from from Jim James Mangold um and he gave me like great feedback in fact at one point he was like I see you get an I'm like revealing whatever he's like I see you get an impulse and not follow it. And I was like, that's the worst thing an actor can hear.

51:05Not really. He meant it from like an encouragement standpoint. Trust your instincts, essentially. Yeah. Follow through. Yeah. And I had done so much of trying to fit into the box in the way that I perceived the creators of a project. And that worked for me for a long time. Yeah. I remember the day that I learned, I was just sitting watching some show on Hulu and the commercials kept popping up. And I was like, oh, they're happy when they pay their credit card bill. And I brought that to my commercial auditions and I started booking commercials. And so I think it was like there was a lot of benefit to knowing what was needed of me and filling that role for people.

51:51but also I was sort of robbing myself of the ability to give myself permission to try things and like just come from a more intuitive, free, alive place. And that piece is what I love so much about it when I was like 12, was that I could just like, I could fly free and do whatever I wanted. And that voice in your head wasn't so loud stopping yourself because we all get that voice that gets louder, unfortunately, as we get older. Yeah. And and specifically that acting gave me permission. Like as a person in my life, I wasn't able to get in trouble for acting out. Right. But when I played this little boy Fritz in The Nutcracker, who like breaks things and is this mischievous little shit, I got to be that.

52:35And I enjoyed that. Like it was just it was a it was a freedom. Yeah, green light, do whatever you want. And I had sort of over time robbed myself of that. And then hearing Jim say that, I was like, oh, okay, that's incredible acting advice. And now I get to take something new and learn from it and run with it. Well, that's what hopefully one of the best benefits of success and affirmation gives you is trust in yourself and being able to be as free. Because that's what it's all about. I mean, having talked to a thousand actors, it's like somehow getting to that flow state where you shut out all the noise and you're just in the moment, trusting yourself, trusting the actor in front of you and blotting out all the demons in our heads that stop creativity, I guess.

53:23Yeah. Right. And it's like still, I mean, I did shows where like the guest star that came with the most freedom and understanding of character was the best one there. It has to be, it has to live within the story. It has to like. Honor the framework and the whole thing. Yeah. So you have to, you still have to be intelligent about it. But to have that freedom and to, like I was saying, I was so terrified to talk to like McHugh or Bruckheimer. Like to know that I have permission to exist in those spaces and to know that a director I respect so much is like, come on, like be more of you. He also would be the first person to be like, that was terrible.

54:09Do it again. No, he's tough. I get it. I've spent time. Yeah, he's a smart man, but he doesn't suffer fools. Yeah, totally. But even more so, you build your strength because you're like, okay, and I will, you know, I watched Ed Norton do that so brilliantly. He would just, I mean, he would just flow because he's also a writer. He would flow and then he would have things cut out and he would pivot and it would still be brilliant and it would be just something different. And it would be like, I just, that I found to be his dexterity was just incredible. One of the top ones out there. I want to tease a couple of things coming up.

54:44So you've shot Artificial, which is a Luca Guadagnino film. Yeah. Just the Luca experience. Every actor is dying to work with Luca. Yeah. What was it like? What was the shoot like? He's incredible. Some people have a really good, like, accent, imitation of his accent. I don't. I've got to work on him. Press first comedy. Because immediately the instinct is just to go into the Luca impression. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, similarly, he wants actors to, like, really follow their impulses and expand in the space. And I think that's really wonderful. And also, we were dealing with really challenging material in terms of what we're saying about, again, people who are alive.

55:31You're playing a real person in this, right? Yeah, yeah. And so I don't know. I mean, this, I feel like, had a particular kind of flavor to it as far as his films are concerned because it's based on real events. So I think it's probably different than the way he might usually work or our task was so heavily research-based. And then, I mean, his approach with like, I mean, he does such interesting camera work too. Like he was bringing a lot of himself, of course, And then, again, our job was kind of just to, like, stay deep with—sorry, always the first time I talk about these things. No, it's okay.

56:23You haven't done the press story yet. I haven't done two days of junket about it yet. I don't have the sentences. No, but I get—you're— It's— Because when I think of him, I do hear often from actors about the fluidity of his sets. But it sounds like, by the nature of this material, yes, that's there because it's always going to be there with him. Yeah. but you have to work. He's in a flow state, but yes, there's also an accuracy component. There's the facts. The facts are the facts. Yeah, which was very different. Yeah. And I'm interested to see how that will go as we promote the film. Have you seen the movie yet?

56:51I have. Is it a comedy? Would you call it a comedy? I mean, Simon Rich is a very funny writer. Yes. Yes, he is. It. One day we would show up and Luca would be like, this is what was the word he used this is a oh what was it like a zany comedy what was the word he would use mad he would just be like this is yeah basically madcap comedy yeah um that wasn't the word i'll find it eventually and then the next day he'd be like it's a horror story and so what right and i think having seen it i'm like yeah oh it's all of it it's it's all of that But I don't, to be clear, I don't think it does not suffer at all from lack of tone or confusion of tone.

57:43It's just, I think it, I think actually in reality it kind of also is all of that. I'm excited to see. I'm glad it's found a home. This was a strange circumstance, but neon is a great home for a film like this, it sounds like. Yeah. Great. We'll talk about that hopefully soon. Yeah. We can say officially you're doing Oceans. That's been announced, right? Yeah. So Bradley Cooper not only starring in it with Margot, Bradley directing it. Yeah. Talented filmmaker, to say the least. Yeah. Did you have to audition for this? Did he come to you? I did audition. Nailed it. Killed it. Thank you. I guess I did.

58:18Yeah, I did. I taped for it. 60s set Monaco backstory of Danny Ocean's parents, essentially, right? Yeah, if you pick that up from the internet, then that's what's out. Okay. Well, I said it, not you. Yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, it's always hard to comment on something before you even step foot on set. But I'm super stoked. Bradley is a director I really admire. He's an actor I admire. Margot, same thing. Her production company is just like so incredible. I find her and her husband, like what they've done is just and the whole company. what they've done is just I mean it's amazing to get to see a woman produce to that capacity and I find that very cool so I'm not only excited to work with them as actors that kind of like blows me away but also to get to see how they operate in that environment where she is producing and he is directing and where they're acting in the project and doing both of those things.

59:24I'm just like, I just, I mean, I've always been a person who really likes to sit in Video Village and just absorb what's going on. I did that like almost every day on Unreal because I was like, I just want to be here. I just want to know what this is. And I expect to do that again with this just because they're so, yeah. No, they're two of the best. I've seen like Margot at like film festivals just like to be there to like see movies. Like at Telluride, you're like, you don't have a movie here. She's just watching movies. She's the real deal. I love. Yeah, somehow she manages to be a full-time producer and a full-time actor.

59:59I have no idea how she does it. I should let you go soon, but just to ask, how active is the Top Gun text thread? Is there a date? Do you have time carved out for the sequel? Are you hopeful? The Top Gun text thread has been kind of quiet for a minute. Oh, okay. Yeah. We've had a lot of... Yeah, I don't know anything. We can't say anything, and I don't know anything. And that's happened several times throughout this process. It's not to say that any rumors aren't true. It seems like there's a will, but we're not quite at the point where we know definitively what's happening. Yes. Is that fair to say?

1:00:44Yeah, but it is reminding me. I do think Jay Ellis makes an appearance in One Night Only, which I'm pretty excited about. And yeah, I feel like we should all hop on a FaceTime sometime soon because now that I'm thinking about it, it's been a minute. We used to do them pretty regularly. Aw. So, yeah. Aw. Aw. Okay, we end with this. Happy Sag Infused Profoundly Random Questions. Monica, are you ready for these? I know the answer to the first one based on our conversation. Dogs or cats? Dogs. Well, I love cats, too. No, shade the cats, but... Yes, I would more readily adopt a dog. Okay. What do you collect?

1:01:23Ooh, what do I collect? Not much, I live out of a suitcase. That's okay, you're busy. Yeah, suitcases. Suitcases to fill up, that's okay, that's fine. And journals, I love, I like write, I journal. So I got a lot of those full of thoughts. Do you have a favorite video game of all time? A favorite? Video game. No, I was not much of a gamer. No games even growing up. I did enjoy GoldenEye, like I would go to my friends, and I learned that I could just make the character go like this, and it was really hard to shoot him. That was the extent of my video game. Sure. Hardcore gamer, Monica Barbaro. She learned a trick nobody will ever try again.

1:02:07Dakota Johnson asked me this. I ask everybody, would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one be in your butt? Like in your butt?

1:02:18Yeah. You're really going there. I know. I almost started to cry over that thinking about my mouth.

1:02:28That's maybe the hardest question I've ever gotten. That's why I ask her. Dakota Johnson asked you this? I know. Well done. She's got a deviant mind. She's a really creative, yeah, person. and deep yeah yeah there's a lot going on darkly deviant oh shit um there are no wrong answers maybe my maybe my no i guess my the most the more convenient one would be my butt yeah because i could like hide that yeah just so you know the mouth i could take a break i would take a break 92 percent i might get some sleep do the do the butt i can't believe i just said that word but Yes, they go with the butt. Also, 99 % do the butt.

1:03:09What's the wallpaper on your phone? Obviously, my dog. Nice. Yeah. Last actor you were mistaken for? Happens all the time. Yeah? The recent one. It's whoever's current and also whoever, if I'm standing next to any man, any woman who's been in association with that man, they'll say I look like them. Stop it. I don't know if it happens to the other women, but it happens to me. I think the last actor though recently is I don't know how to say Emily Bader Bader Emily Bader which it's always a compliment I'm always like okay worst note a director has ever given you

1:03:53don't think actors aren't supposed to think come on was that the face you gave in response to that probably probably do you want to name names um i do but i actually here's the biggest flex i don't even remember his name love it there it is we can find it out because i can say what project it was but no i'm not gonna say it i don't remember his name and uh he does not deserve the shout out agreed okay finally in the spirit of happy second fuse an actor who always makes you happy you see them on screen you're in a better mood. Ooh. Amy Adams, Kate Hudson, Goldie Hawn. Perfect. Cool. Movie that makes you sad.

1:04:34And Spornie Weaver. Yeah. Movie that makes you sad. Ooh. God, the documentary Amy wrecked me for like three days. And I have this yearning to rewatch Whale Rider. not because it's ultimately sad but I do think like when I want to feel deeply that's what I'm going to turn on yeah and a food that makes you confused you don't get it a food that makes me confused why do people eat that? why do people eat that? well I understand I don't I just don't I just hate peaches interesting yeah I haven't heard that one before okay yeah but it's not like it's not like I don't get it I just don't like them. Not for you.

1:05:24Yeah. And I also discovered a weird thing about me is that I don't like songs where they sing about fruit. Now we've opened up a minefield at the very end. Which just, it came up in conversation and then it was like, it was called to our attention that that's a weird thing to have said. Is there an example? Like what's a, like. I'm just about to burn some bridges. I like, like I don't like the song Watermelon Sugar. Like I just don't, I don't like it. Fair enough. There's more though. Poor Harry Styles. He really needs my support. I like Harry Styles. It's fine. No, no. You've created a beef today with Harry Styles.

1:06:03I've created a new riff. He's like, who? Stop. What? Okay. What else? There were other ones. Okay. It actually turned into like just a riff train of songs that have things about, I used to really hate the line, really love your peaches, want to shake your treat. not because of what it's talking about, but because I'm like, oh, peaches. Yeah. But there's... We're going to have to continue this internet therapy session. Yeah, yeah, so sorry. We don't have time to unpack that one. Oh, my God. I didn't know it was a thing until I said... I was like, yeah, I think I just don't like when people sing about fruit.

1:06:38And then that boy... Breakthrough. Yeah. And now I've given it over to the internet. I love it. We thank you for that. We thank you for that, your performances, and the rest is... The best is yet to come. You're doing great. You're killing it. I'm so happy we had a chance to catch up for this one. Everybody check out One Night Only. Reward big rom-coms on the big screen. Come together. Absurdity and billboards everywhere. Please go see it. There it is. There it is. Monica, thank you for the time today. I appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused.

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