Skyler Gisondo

24 Sep 2026 · 59 min · 25 chapters

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In short

Happy, Sad, Confused episode featuring actor Skylar Gisondo discussing his career and current projects, especially Primetime (a drama based on the Chris Hansen/To Catch a Predator premise), plus his work as Jimmy Olsen in James Gunn’s Superman: Man of Tomorrow and his role in a Gorilla Grodd spinoff.

Guest backgrounds

Skylar Gisondo is a longtime child actor who started at age six, later doing multi-genre work (multi-cam TV, comedy, drama, and film). He’s known for playing Jimmy Olsen (Superman franchise), appearing in Fokker-in-law with Ariana Grande, Robert De Niro, and Ben Stiller, and voicing/acting in the Air Bud franchise (including Spooky Buddies).

Key claims

Primetime felt “the most challenging” and formative role for him; he and director Lance Oppenheim embraced uncertainty on set. He connects to his Primetime character through audition eagerness and wanting something badly. He says acting is a collaborative “magic trick” dependent on directing/editing.

Notable examples

Venice world premiere standing ovation; his Primetime character as a struggling actor who sells his soul; his Jimmy Olsen audition tape mistakenly thought it was for Superman; his Paul Thomas Anderson experience for Licorice Pizza (he practiced Scott Joplin’s “The Entertainer” for weeks).

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Skyler's Career and Primetime

0:00 to 0:38

Discussion about Skyler's roles and his new film 'Primetime'.

“Insurance isn't one-size-fits-all, and shopping for it shouldn't feel like squeezing into something that just doesn't fit.”

Skyler's Career and Primetime

3:21 to 4:25

Discussion about Skyler's roles and his new film 'Primetime'.

“Famous rappers have launched their careers.”

Venice Film Festival Experience

4:25 to 6:17

Skyler shares his experience at the Venice Film Festival and the unique atmosphere.

“It's helpful when it's that kind of singing where it's like, there's sort of like a specificity to it.”

The Challenge of Acting in Primetime

6:17 to 8:04

Skyler discusses the challenges he faced while filming 'Primetime'.

“possible you're in someone else's dream like this isn't real are you also like how i always like to ask about the famous standing o's how awkward was the standing ovation dude it's so awkward i don't know.”

Working with Robert Pattinson

8:04 to 10:15

Skyler reflects on collaborating with Robert Pattinson and his career growth.

“does it feel like a marker kind of for you in a career?”

Acting's Vulnerability and Humility

10:15 to 13:20

Skyler discusses the vulnerabilities of acting and connecting with his character.

“taking the risks that he does, working with the coolest filmmakers, it's an inspiration to me as just a film lover.”

Insights on Casting and Collaboration

13:20 to 14:01

Skyler shares his insights on casting and the collaborative nature of filmmaking.

“the costume, the hair, the makeup, to create this thing that's so much greater and then the sum of its parts, the whole of its parts, great, the whole is greater than some of its parts.”

Collaboration and Filmmaking Insights

14:01 to 16:15

Learn about the importance of collaboration in filmmaking and the unique approaches of different directors.

“It's sort of like whatever makes sense for this, whatever we need for this.”

Collaboration and Filmmaking Insights

17:19 to 18:34

Learn about the importance of collaboration in filmmaking and the unique approaches of different directors.

“can be intimidating and lonely at times.”

Collaboration and Filmmaking Insights

18:38 to 18:48

Learn about the importance of collaboration in filmmaking and the unique approaches of different directors.

“I mean, the nature of those that, I mean, I watched To Catch a Predator back in the day.”
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Character Preparation and Realism in Acting

18:48 to 20:47

Exploring how actors prepare for roles and bring characters into real-world situations.

“Like, the nature of this character you're playing, this guy, is like, the acting required, it's these real-world circumstances he's putting himself in, which is kind of fascinating.”

Growing Up and Early Aspirations

20:47 to 22:44

Discussing the early life and aspirations of Skyler Gisondo as an actor.

“And you have a very youthful disposition.”

Formative Acting Experiences

22:44 to 28:05

Skyler reflects on key moments that shaped his acting career and philosophy.

“I don't know why I fixated on these two things.”

The Joy of Acting and Air Bud Films

28:05 to 30:22

Skyler discusses the confidence needed in acting and reflects on his experiences with the Air Bud films.

“It was like this joyous thing making that movie.”

Working with Jennifer Lawrence and Paul Thomas Anderson

31:51 to 38:03

Skyler shares memorable experiences from his career, including working with Jennifer Lawrence and being cast in Licorice Pizza.

“So you've done every kind of acting, it seems.”

The Journey of Jimmy Olsen

38:03 to 42:00

Skyler talks about his role as Jimmy Olsen, the audition process, and the lessons learned from director James Gunn.

“he's such a nice guy that like, even if like a really unkind person showed up on that set, you would feel so embarrassed to be anything other than the night, it just neutralizes any kind of, he's the man.”

Reflections on Superman and Character Dynamics

42:00 to 44:38

Skyler discusses his experience with the Superman movie and the character dynamics with Tess Mocker.

“such a it's a truly a dream dream job looking back and i've seen superman a lot i love that movie what he did, what you all did.”

Behind the Scenes of Man of Tomorrow

44:38 to 48:30

Skyler shares insights about the filming environment and camaraderie on set during Man of Tomorrow.

“Which, I mean, that's a high compliment that like the first spinoff, et cetera, from this universe.”

Upcoming Projects: Gorilla Grodd and Goblin

48:30 to 52:33

Skyler talks about his upcoming projects including the Gorilla Grodd show and a new movie called Goblin.

“De Niro of course you know so I met him I came Mr.”

Rapid Fire Q&A with Skyler

52:33 to 55:18

Skyler answers random questions ranging from personal preferences to past experiences in the industry.

Mistaken Identities and Anecdotes

55:18 to 56:05

Skyler shares humorous stories about being mistaken for other actors and his experiences in the industry.

Misidentification and Celebrity Encounters

56:05 to 57:31

Skyler shares humorous stories about being mistaken for other celebrities.

“And I was like, I promise I would tell you.”

Notes from Directors

57:31 to 58:04

Skyler discusses experiences with director feedback and notes during filming.

Actors Who Bring Joy and Comfort

58:04 to 59:56

Skyler talks about actors that make him happy and food confessions.

Dinner Preferences and Social Eating

59:56 to 1:01:01

Skyler and the host discuss their food preferences and social dining experiences.

“So I really appreciate you trusting me, coming on the podcast.”
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Transcript

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1:23So I sent in that tape fully thinking, this is for Superman. So if I look at that tape, do I get Superman vibes? Like, are you... I'm like, apparently not. Prepare your ears, humans. Happy, sad, confused begins now.

1:42Hey guys, it's Josh. Welcome to another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Today on the show, we have Skylar Gisando in the house. First time guest on the pod. Someone that has only done one other podcast before. I'll take that any day of the week. He's talking about Primetime, his new film with Robert Pattinson, and so much more. Thanks, guys, as always, for checking out the podcast. Remember, subscribe if you haven't already on YouTube, on Spotify, on any podcast platform you like. I don't care. Just subscribe, guys. Check out what we're doing over here. So thrilled to have Skyler on the show today.

2:13He has been crafting a remarkable career in recent years. Look, he is, of course, Jimmy Olsen. We talk about Superman, Man of Tomorrow. And yes, he has his own spinoff show facing off against Gorilla Grodd, which I'm very excited about. They've been shooting it lately. We talk about that. He's in Fokker-in-law opposite Ariana Grande and Robert De Niro and Ben Stiller. He's in the new Shrek movie. Very busy guy. And of course, this new film, Primetime, which is a change of pace for Skyler. This is a full-on drama. This tells the story of Chris Hansen. Yes, it is based on the events of To Catch a Predator.

2:48and Skyler is kind of the secret weapon of this film, kind of a co-lead. I don't want to ruin too much, but as the story progresses, it really becomes as much Skyler's film as it is Robert Pattinson's and he is fantastic in it. I'm so happy to support him, support the film and just talk about his crazy career that's just like really just been reaping great rewards for him. And I think we're getting him at a really cool time in his career and life. And as you'll see and hear from the conversation, just a fun guy to talk to so i was really happy to connect with him today and i think you guys are going to really dig this one here is me and skylar jazondo enjoy oh man you ready for this skylar i'm ready are you though i think so skylar welcome to the podcast thanks so much for having me man i'm very excited to have you here you are you're absolutely killing it there's a thousand things to talk about um hard g or soft g first of all in the last name soft g thanks for asking soft g that's also like a good like yeah soft g soft g that's like a good nickname it's a good like rapper name yeah yeah you want to pursue that route my my my manager came up with my rapper name recently oh uh accidentally sky priority yes greenlit with and then i pitched the dollar sign for the s yeah sky part just just floating that just test run here today hashtag sky priority it's also not a cool way to launch a rapper i got a real cool new rapper It's got a priority.

4:12Famous rappers have launched their careers. I'm happy to say I confused before. So you're the next in the line. Do you rap? Do you sing? Are you a? I've had to under duress. I mean, in, you know. Primetime, there's some singing. There's some singing. It's helpful when it's that kind of singing where it's like, there's sort of like a specificity to it. Like I'm a Broadway-ish, you know, I want it. So it's like singing. It's through a character. Singing as a character, you feel so safe. Yeah. singing me yeah and probably not no yeah you don't want to start something worse it's like 8 30 in the morning you want to sing for us right now just sing for your supper it's like 45 minutes of vocal warm-ups i could tell we'd be out of time by the end do you do vocal warm-ups most morning yeah do you really no no no i did i did um for during prime time because i kind of like my voice is sort of up a register yes and so i i found like i wanted to get like out of that and into the higher thing but usually no but i'd be down to start how many it's not a prerequisite to be on the podcast don't worry just good work which you are achieving um okay so you're here first and foremost for prime time which i mean folks that listen or watch this podcast probably this is very high on their radar because this is lance oppenheim this is based you know loosely or not so loosely on to catch a predator chris hansen the whole craziness and um it's obviously you and Robert Pattinson and everybody's in for a treat for this because like Rob kills it but you're also kind of like you're kind of the secret weapon of this Skyler like you really are amazing in this thank you um talk to me a little bit first just we'll get to the production but you recently were in Venice for the big world premiere oh so cool so you've done some cool things but that's a unique experience totally totally it is dude it was just one like moment to moment then the entire day was just one enormous out-of-body experience it was like you know uh that it's such an eye everywhere you're stepping you're it's such it's so iconic you have all these images in your head of like all the people who have stood there and like the press and the energy there man it it it's just unlike any other it just feels like you're in like the epicenter of cool yeah this is the coolest possible you're in someone else's dream like this isn't real are you also like how i always like to ask about the famous standing o's how awkward was the standing ovation dude it's so awkward i don't know.

6:302 Chainz 1 Famously, okay, let's have the scene for those that don't know. The standing O's at Venice go on and on and on, which is great. 3 Chainz 1 Yeah, awesome. 3 Chainz 1 But like, if you do the math, standing up for more than 30 seconds starts to feel weird, let alone like 10 minutes. 3 Chainz 1 Right, and you, which I didn't realize, like, you're also kind of clapping back at them. So, you feel psychotic. You're just like looking, you're there looking at you, you're looking at them. And then I just kept asking Rob, like, how much like, do we keep going? He's like, you just keep going. I'm not gonna be here.

7:00And then, dude, I'm so glad. I shouldn't draw attention to it, but Lance was like, Lance was like, okay, bow, bow, Sky, bow. And I was like, no, what, solo, bow? And he's like, yeah, they want bow. And I was like, Lance is like, tell me about it. So I was like, okay. And then I did it, and then I like ejected immediately. So there's a moment where I'm just like, and thankfully it didn't cut, now it's fine. I don't know what I'm talking about. Now we're gonna go back to the tape and really analyze it. But there's a very regrettable moment where I kind of like, And also to acknowledge, just to do a solo bow.

7:33Did you curtsy too? Did you just do a little? I should have, that would have been better. But then we did the group bow, which felt, but you clap, you clap, you clap. And then eventually, thankfully everyone does stop. And it's over, and it's done. Just stop too much. And then you're like, why'd you guys stop, man? Yeah, no, wait, come on, more. I'm an actor, I need this. I feed off of you. But look, this is a big moment. There are a lot of things to talk about. But this film stands out. This is obviously a moment for you, like a different kind of a role that we haven't seen you in certainly, different kind of a film.

8:04Did it feel like, I don't know, does it feel like a marker kind of for you in a career? Totally. Thanks, man. Yeah, it felt... It was certainly the... When Lance and I first spoke about it, I said to him, I was like, I don't know what you've seen of mine that makes you think I can do that. Like, if I was you, man, I would not... The Air Bud movies. He was like... He was like... Yeah, dude, I saw Spooky Buddies specifically, and you're revelatory is how I felt about. But so yeah, going into it, which is not... I'd heard actors talk about wanting to do stuff that scared them or something. Right.

8:36And I never got that. I was like, why would you wanna be scared? What did you want to know? It's gonna go well, and like... Yeah. Life is scary enough. I don't wanna scare myself. Totally, dude, there's enough. And so this was the first time where I could not believe Lance wanted it was gonna happen but I was terrified I mean there was like reading the script there was things that I just like I didn't know if I could do it how I would do it how it would go and so it was this incredibly formative experience and also in that like we all became Lance is so young David Boland his cinematographers young Prit Will a lot of our producers it felt like there was no adults on set oh like I was like a bunch of kids making a movie and so it It was, Lance is so collaborative, and it just was this very sort of like, it was the most challenging thing I've ever done.

9:22It was the most like, but I started to, and I felt inspired by Rob in that way. Like, he, Lance has said that he like jumps off a cliff every take, and when you're working with an actor who's like that dynamic, like you let go of the idea that you know what it's gonna be or where it's gonna go, and you start to get more comfortable like operating in that uncertainty. And I found a real joy, I think, in that uncertainty. Kind of inspirational. I mean, yeah, I've talked about Rob so much on this podcast over the years. He's the goat. He's the goat. And people might be like tired of me saying it because I go back to the Twilight days and I covered Twilight so damn much.

10:01As you should. I was at MTV covering Twilight. As you can imagine, we did a lot. And to see what he has done with his career, like, I'll be honest, I did not have this on my bingo card. He put in the work. He really did. And where he's at right now, taking the risks that he does, working with the coolest filmmakers, it's an inspiration to me as just a film lover. And it sounds like to you as just like a screen partner to see what he's doing in a scene. Totally, dude, he puts it all on the line. He takes the biggest swings. He works with, like you said, such interesting filmmakers early in their careers.

10:32You know, before you've really seen, like Lance had done, his doc stuff is unbelievable. you know but he had not done a narrative he had not done something and so when you're rob and you are where he is in his career to just be like i like you i like you let's go let's do this it's uh it's it's amazing man yeah truly it uh and he's so there's very few actor i feel like most of us are like turning up and down the dials on different parts of ourselves and there's a very select few who really shape shift and kind of uh just go somewhere completely new every time and yeah a totally inspirational dude to work with.

11:07So this character that you play within the narrative is, it's kind of interesting. There's a bit of a meta quality. He's a struggling actor that's willing to kind of, I don't know, I don't want to spoil anything, but kind of sell his soul a little bit, go to really extreme lengths for this chance at some degree of success. I don't know. Are there points of any connection that you make to Dan as an actor in this? Totally, dude. in the like, you know, acting is humiliating, honestly. It's very embarrassing, it's this very vulnerable thing. And I was fortunate in that like I started young enough, I was like six years old when I started, and so by the time you start to get to that age, like 12, 13, 14, where you're developing a sense of like self-consciousness, I had like a resume or something.

11:54So by that, I kind of had this like, you know, I sort of was like, oh, this is what I do. I didn't have too much time to think about like, Like, this is crazy. But then still, the things I connected with the most are just that eagerness and that kind of like walking into a room and the auditions on Friday. You got sent the material on Monday. It's all you've been thinking about all week you want. And you know everything could change everything. Like, that's every role. Like, week after week after week, it's like, oh, dude, this is the thing that could. And so that sense of, like, you know, wanting something so badly and feeling so far from it.

12:30And then two in his like awe of Chris, you know, like I having, when I was, especially when I was younger, getting to work with people who you're just like, you know, they're 10 feet tall and you can't believe that like, you just want to soak in everything. And like, so certainly there was a ton, there was a ton that was there. So do you still feel, cause I have this conversation a lot with actors about how silly it all is in the end and how silly you can feel if you can't, like silencing the part of your brain that's like, I look like an idiot. like in a different context. If you take the cameras away, what the fuck am I doing?

13:04I look like a mad person. So it's, dude, it's a really, I'm humbled all the time by like, anytime you see a take that they didn't use or like what it should, it's like acting really is 95 % directing, writing, editing, you know, everything, everything comes together, the costume, the hair, the makeup, to create this thing that's so much greater and then the sum of its parts, the whole of its parts, great, the whole is greater than some of its parts. and I think that yeah you have this idea in your head that like the past like year so I've been a part of a couple of projects where I was cast and then other we had to find other actors so I was coming into chemistry read with people and so having that experience for the first time I remember thinking for so many years when I was auditioning for things man if I go in there and I'm like undeniable you know I can do it like I just got to show them I can do it yeah and then you wouldn't get it and then being on this side of it you see actor after actor come in and they're all great.

13:58And everybody is just different. And there's no like right or wrong. It's sort of like whatever makes sense for this, whatever we need for this. And no one person is really capable of giving the performance the other person is giving. So I think you start, I just start to, yeah, you start to let go of like, whenever you're acting, there's gonna be a lot that's really bad. And from the wrong angle, even something that looks cool here might look really dumb there. And it's really a magic trick. It's like this highly technical thing. And so you're very dependent upon all of these other people to kind of lift you up.

14:28It's the it's the key to also find the right collaborators and the director that's going to protect you in the edits because like every actor has been burned and been like taken taking a chance and then seeing the final cut and be like you use that. So dude I literally said this to Lance the other day inevitably whenever you watch anything you're like that that take or this that. But then with Lance it is dude the opposite to the degree that I'm like, when did I do that? Like, how'd you, how'd I, it is, he, he's, the way he sees things, the way David Boland sees things, his cinematographer, like, I have never, uh, it's such a privilege to get to, like, I said to Boland, like, I was looking at the monitor, it was like, dude, every frame you set up is like a painting.

15:04Yeah. And to get to step into that world. Yeah. It's like, amazing. It's also cool. Like, I was, I'm fascinated when, like, a filmmaker can go from the doc side to the narrative side, like Lance's, we were just talking, he's, he's killing it right now. I got a chance to see the Nathan Fielder doc, which he also directed. I'm so jealous. You're going to fucking die. But did that bring, I mean, could you sense like a different kind of approach to filmmaking because of the doc pedigree? Big time. Yeah, Lance, like, it's so alive with him. He really operates in that place of like, I don't know that he really has, he has a shot list, but him and David, who he's worked with for many years, like, they are so comfortable operating from a place of uncertainty and going like it's very it was very exciting it results it results in this process where it feels like anything could happen yeah and things can change very quickly whatever's working like going to that going away from something rewriting something and also it's like best idea wins they have no like lance is the most egoless there's no he could have spent a year thinking about something but the second something else pops up he's like let's go with that i like that and yeah things felt so alive all of the time more happy say confused coming up.

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18:47I mean, the nature of those that, I mean, I watched To Catch a Predator back in the day. I'm sure many people did. Like, the nature of this character you're playing, this guy, is like, the acting required, it's these real-world circumstances he's putting himself in, which is kind of fascinating. Right. Are you the type of actor, like have you ever brought a character out into the real world? Like, are you like going to Starbucks as Jimmy Olsen just to see like if it works? You know, I did something recently, just this small thing where I was in like, I had like neck tattoos, neck tattoos and like a fake beard.

19:20And so I just looked like a man. I just looked like a hard man. And then me and my castmates. That's your natural look. That's how you normally look. This is the mask. In an alternate universe that I felt. And then two of my castmates who also had the same look. we had like half an hour off and we went to this in and out down the road and i never i never felt more respected in my life in a put like i was like man this is what it feels like to like this is amazing so that was like like to think took a character out in the world but ultimately no i would feel too i feel like that requires such confidence i i i don't know that i could uh i would like you know on set for prime time oftentimes just because like dan was in like this a very isolated place or just some dark kind of thing.

20:03We were having so much fun and we'd all become such good friends. I had to like remove myself from that. Right. So you kind of, you have like the dark cloud over your head and you're kind of like holding off to yourself. But as far as taking it, not yet. I'm excited for your neck tattoo beard phase. Not the character, just as a real person. In life, thank you, thank you, man. I mean, you're 30 now. I'm young, I still get, yeah. My dad always told me he couldn't grow a beard until he was 30. and I recently turned 30. Have you ever tried to grow a beard? Still waiting, you know. By the end of this interview, it's going to pop in.

20:33Something happens that's not, it's not good, you know, and it's not really a beard. I see. But something does happen. Yeah, something's happening. But maybe 40, maybe like. What is your, because it is interesting, kind of ties into the film. Look, you're playing a guy who's playing younger, right? Yes, yes. And you have a very youthful disposition. Yeah. Like, are you, and you are 30 now, like, have you kind of like, when's the last time you got offered a teenager role? Like, do you still kind of like, do people assume you're younger than you are? And is that, that's an asset, but it's also tough to negotiate.

21:02Totally. Yeah. I think I remember being like, I remember maybe I was like 25 and I said to my reps, I was like, whatever the next thing is, like, I don't think I could wear a backpack again. I was like, maybe, maybe no more, or no more graphic tees, you know, with like a hoodie over it where I'm in a hallway. Yeah. For some actors, it's like no nudity for you. It's like, I just can't do a graphic tee. Not another Jan sport. Yeah, please. Please. over um but no you do definitely and i think it's been um yeah i know like in fokker's i play like a fiance right and that was like i was like oh cool i'm of age enough to get married to another human being yeah totally like i felt when i was like this is crazy fiance but i'm like this is very age appropriate and reasonable um but yeah i think that's always been a theme and uh yeah it's been like i the last couple of years it seems to have like there's been a shift towards more mature stuff maybe totally totally all right so let's go back a little bit if you'll indulge me so so growing up extrovert introvert what do friends family say about young schuyler how would they describe you uh an extrovert to the nth degree just like a maniac yeah my poor family my poor uh i i don't know why we didn't really have any like connective tissue to the film industry or anything um so i don't know why i like had from i i had this idea in my head that i wanted to be in movies.

22:20I would watch the same things over and over and I would beg my mom to like let me be on TV whatever that meant. Yeah. And I would like I had two older sisters and they would thankfully like humor me and I would like make us dress up and do like plays. I like West Side Story a lot. So I would like this. I've heard you reference often West Side Story and Happy Gilmore. Those were the two movies. That's not the usual double feature people go to. I don't know West Side Story. I don't know why I fixated on these two things. Happy Gilmore. My mom, my uncle showed me while he was watching me while my parents were out of town my mom was not pleased because they're yeah she felt it was not appropriate okay um but so yeah young from an early age very uh we would go to like when we first came to la we were walking around i was like six or seven and in santa monica uh all of like on the promenade all of the i would just like put a hat down and start like dancing to sure other people's music yeah yeah i don't dude i don't know what was going on do you still do that if you just like the beat the beat gets into the I was doing the strike actually, yeah.

23:19It was, yeah, I hit the promenade and yeah. What was your go-to move at six or seven on the promenade, like what were you doing? I don't know that I physically could do the go-to move anymore. I don't know that there was a go-to move as much as just - Just felt the, in your body, you just let the body move. Let the body, on the body. She would take me to this place, Millennium, where I would take hip hop. I loved it. I was like, I wanna go to Millennium. And then there was a - Sounds like a club. It kind of was, it was like very like, it was very cool like a lot of real dancers went there and was it cool it's probably not for me to say if i was there oh i'm sorry i don't know why i'm bashing millennium hold me accountable i appreciate it it's your job but there was the kids area and then there was uh the dome where like the real like adults dance like backup dancers were coming and i was like um these kids can't hang with me i gotta get to the dome and so she took me to the down and i dude i don't know why they let me do any of this i was like seven just popping it in the dome yeah yeah at I think that's what they called it.

24:17That's a euphemism for something nowadays. I don't know what it means. But to answer your question, that was, yeah, I just loved it. I loved, always, I don't know why. Yeah. Did you get in on either audition or up for either the Happy Gilmore sequel or the West Side Story reboot? Neither. What? What the hell? Yeah, can you believe that? I know. Hopefully there'll be more. There'll be more. I'm sure they'll do another West Side Story movie, a sequel at some point. Everybody ends up totally fine at the end of that movie. Yes. So what do you remember about the early audition days? Like, I mean, rejection is hard for an adult.

24:49How is rejection for a seven or eight year old? Or were you? Part of the gift of starting young is the rejections lost on you. There's not a sense of like, yeah, it doesn't hurt. You know, you don't have a sense of the stakes. You're just bopping around from room to room. And like, I think the early days were quick because it would be you'd show up and it was just cattle calls. Like you'd show up to a commercial. There'd be a hundred kids there. They'd want to find the kid that day. Yeah. So it was, but I loved, I just loved it. And there was so many, also when you're younger, there's so many things to audition for when you're kind of auditioning for everything.

25:20So like every day it was sort of go, go, go. I don't remember ever feeling dejected or like there was things I really wanted that I'd be bummed I didn't get, but it was always just like onto the next one. Did you have like a type? Was there like, oh, this is like, this is your wheelhouse? It's a good question. I don't know, like I did all the, you know, I did like the when I was younger the guest like all the procedurals and all of the you kind of do the rounds you know like the cold case the mug strong medicine ER like all of those kinds of uh I guess as I got a little bit older the archetype was like it seemed to be this thing that was working was just this like overly earnest right sort of like you know well-intentioned do we be dude kind of thing sure uh that like seemed to be what was work but you also don't really have an awareness of like what what's where I think especially at that age you're not aware of like perception or how you're coming off you're kind of just like yeah it's why it's so you know it's kids are just so free it's what it's you know you're just sort of like being you you're not really thinking about that much do you think about a transition point of like where it kind of went from just behavior like being yourself to like putting some craft into it and kind of like thinking about it more intellectually as an actor yeah great question I think there was a few like formative I think when I was 17 doing Night at the Museum with was enormously formative I it was my first time being like a big part of a very big movie and you know Ben Stiller was like just such a hero of mine and seeing the way that he worked like he you know how methodically he worked how precise it was how much of like it was it really like I think set something in motion for me of like I had been because I never really formally studied or trained or anything.

27:05It was sort of like learning on the job, learning from people. And so seeing Ben at that age at that time, I was like, oh, dude, this is what it takes. This is what it looks like. This is what you have to like, you know. And in something like Night of the Museum, it's like, you know, you would think it's like, oh, you just show up and you just do the third movie. Right. And it's also like he's he's playing kind of an everyman. So he could and many actors would and still be great. Just sort of like show up and do it. And he cared so deeply and everything mattered a lot. And it's like, it should, dude.

27:34Like people, this is a big movie. Like there's a lot of money on the line. Like this is a huge, just the, you know, the idea of like being worthy of the opportunity and like earning it and working for it. And so that really, that's why it's so cool to get to work with him again because it had been this like, you know, those waves kind of like, and then, yeah, every job you kind of like a little bit rubs off on you. book smart was a really big you know at 22 like olivia uh that was when i feel like so much of acting is just confidence you know like having the confidence to try things to sort of like be comfortable not knowing you know what you're gonna be being confident enough to fail and and olivia like gave us so much room to run and to be that young and to be told like you know i want you to just go go for it like i want you to do this and that and like it was the first time i I felt like that was sort of, yeah, that was a very kind of formative experience in that way of like, it started this fire in me of like, oh, I love this.

28:35It was like this joyous thing making that movie. I remember thinking like this feeling, like I want to chase this. What was the feeling you got out of working on the Air Bud films that inspired you as an actor? Oh, dude, well, those were dark, you know, that was like everybody was really in. I was committed, you know, I live, I built the house actually that my character lived in. I lived there for a few months on the property. How many Air Bud movies did you do? Can you rank them for me? What should I start with? What should I go? Well, there's Air Buddies. Yeah. Classic. Yeah, obviously. I'm not going to.

29:07No shade. Snow Buddies, Space Buddies. Spooky Buddies. Spooky Buddies, Treasure Buddies. Yep. Santa Buddies. And in one of the movies, and again, I don't know why I'm talking about things that I hope people don't want to know about you. But in one of the movies, I think it's Spooky Buddies, I'm the voice of B-Dog, and I'm the main live action kid who is B-Dog's owner. And I didn't have, like, the tools to, like, I was, like, 10. I wasn't changing my voice. It's just me being like, what do you want to do today, B-Dog? And then it's B-Dog being like, whatever you think. That's fucked up. I don't know the lack of oversight.

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29:46Dude, I don't know. But it worked, I guess. That probably broke some kids' brains. Why is B-Dog talking to me? I've always thought that. I've always knew something was off. Wow. So I should start with which? Oh, sorry. You know what? I think Spooky Buddies, I think we found our groove on Spooky Buddies. I like how you started staring off into space. You went somewhere else when you were thinking about it. I wish I could remember. Dude, I can't. Yeah. Oh, my God. More Happy Sad Confused coming up.

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31:51So you've done every kind of acting, it seems. You do the sitcom Bill Engvall show, and it's like Jennifer Lawrence also on that show. Isn't that crazy? That's crazy to think about. What do you remember about working with Jennifer, who is, I mean, I've done a lot with, I'm obsessed with her, a singular soul. It was, I mean, that show was like the last of a sort of dying breed of like, you know, live action. And multi-cam. Multi-cam, thank you. Multi-cam, live audience. Right. And so being, you know, nine years old and like live audience, it was so much fun. I lived for the Friday nights. And it's so crazy because I think Jen, she did, I think it was like between seasons two and three that she did.

32:34Like Winter's Bone? Winter's Bone. Yeah. Great. And this show, it could not have been more night and day. I remember my memories not I remember we like I think fought like brother and sister like we were like very close there was like you know me her and our Graham who played our brother we were all very close and like we I idolized both of them because I was that age where like I think they're five six years older than me and so I just thought they were I thought her and Graham were like the two coolest people in the world so whenever I could be like please can I hang out with you but I you know you at that age you have like a studio teacher and you have to go to you know set and everything to school but yeah it is such a trip such a trip i think i saw like a clip from that show recently i think the whole thing's like on youtube or something bill engvall either than bill engvall fans out there yeah appreciate it yeah okay so again doesn't get much more diverse we're going from bill engvall air buddies to pta not the usual path but i mean that's got to be a moment to get into licorice pizza with like every actor is like dying to work paul thomas that's that's the moment for sure yeah that that's like uh that was the most surreal it's like the greatest of all time you know you can you can you never even like i don't think uh i could not have fathomed of ever having the opportunity to be in his world and what's the vibe on a pta set what's awesome like weird like my stuff was like fun i like it was like really like he uh you know the audition process was like uh i sent him this tape and like he called and i i think i've told this story before but he on this facetime where he was basically giving me the role he like asked me if i played piano right and i don't and without missing a beat i said uh i've been playing my entire life and i went to the extreme i went to the extreme not just like yeah i do a little bit like no i'm a trained pianist i i i could have just said it would have been a lie it would have been a lie to be like yeah i play a little bit yeah but i swung for the fences yeah dude i said i've been playing my whole life and uh and then i and he was like oh great so you're gonna play this song scott joplin's the entertainer like uh should be you know not too hard and i was like great and we hang up and i immediately listened to the song and if it was any other director i would have called back right away and been like you know what dude like i think we maybe should have a contingency plan i'm listening to the song and it's but i just it was terrified so terrified i was like you can't how much time did you have to we had 10 weeks and i just thought like in that way that act that delusional what they the actors think you kind of can just i was like this will be my full-time job i have nothing else to do right if i have to play eight hours a I'll play and I did I played legitimately probably like five hours a day every day the whole time thinking like waking up in cold sweats like I'm not today's the day I call him and come clean and like tell him I can't and then like a week before I was the first time I was like I think I'm gonna be able to do this and we do it show up to the scene it goes like great all of the filming was so we have like the best time like the it was like a really fun experience and then doing ADR a couple of months later I'm on FaceTime with Paul again and I was like how's the movie looking man and he's like, oh, it looks great.

35:35We cut the piano stuff, but everything else looks great. I was like, oh, right, okay, right on, man. Right on. And he's like, yeah. I was too scared to tell him. You never told him. At some point you told him. Never told him. Never told him. Never told him. I told his wife. She was like, you got to tell him. I was like, I'm never going to tell him. But now I'm done. I hope, you know, if he's pleased, I hope he, but he knows because hilariously, which I didn't know, you don't really get to read the script, there's a scene in the movie where cooper hoffman's guy he's getting ready to go to his first audition right and alana heim tells him whatever they ask yes just what literally and there's a scene where she's like fencing he's like yep right horseback riding and then like she's getting to the point where she's like she knows he's lying and so i you know he knows it was life imitating art i think that's amazing yeah um yeah briefly i want to mention um righteous gemstones i mean mcbride was sitting in that seat not so long ago oh was he really the best as you know the coolest man he's created his own world out there and it's just making it work yeah what do you learn from a set like that working with someone from like mcbride dude so much danny is like true maybe just the nicest guy like in hollywood and he's uh you know he learned so much like from the way that he works but also like outside of the work itself the life stuff like he cracked the code he cracked the code he like you know it's like him and his best buddies and his these guys he goes so far back with and like um they just do it together and like it's a family and his the crew you know everybody like he there's so many different versions of like you know it's you know to you you there's so many different ways to do this job and like have this career and the way that he's gone about it the way he takes care of people and looks out after people it's it's amazing and the way that he were like yeah i learned so much from like he doesn't danny doesn't really like he he doesn't really write jokes like all of the comedy comes from the characters yeah you know so sometimes you read scenes of his and like you don't even realize how funny it is until it's on its feet and then he just has that quality where like the second he starts talking and he's also like the part of his brilliance is like as i'm sure he's like the smartest guy in the room but he has no he he so does not need anybody to know that but he's like the most voracious reader i've ever met his output is crazy like i remember you know it's tough to get him to like talk to too much about his own stuff, but like his output, the amount that he writes, how much pours, like he's such a workhorse and like, and just the nicest dude.

38:02And that vibe, he's such a nice guy that like, even if like a really unkind person showed up on that set, you would feel so embarrassed to be anything other than the night, it just neutralizes any kind of, he's the man. Yeah. Maybe he can pop up with G.I. Joe. He's doing the G.I. Joe movie next. I know, dude. Let me get in there. That'd be cool. That'd be cool. Well, you do have stuff going on, needless to say. Jimmy Olsen. Let's talk Jimmy Olsen. Okay. So famously, tell me if this is true. I believe this is true. When the audition, the opportunity comes around, you thought at first maybe you were auditioning for Supes?

38:35That's right. Yeah. Okay. That's all good. You could have been a great Superman. Thank you, man. I really appreciate you saying that. So at what point did you know? I don't, man, I really, I don't know why I had the idea in my head. I got Senate and I thought, and I looked at it because I told the story. I looked back. The side said Jimmy. They said Jimmy. Right. It's a code, though. I had this idea in my head that it was dummy size. For whatever reason, I skimmed. Sometimes I didn't read. You get these emails about a point that are very long, a lot of information. And I was like, oh, my God, a very exciting Superman thing.

39:08And for whatever reason, I had the idea in my head. I was like, I think it's for Superman. And Gunn's always because he's cool and imaginative. I was like, maybe it's like a normal every man kind of thing. And so I sent in that tape fully thinking, this is for Superman. So if I look at that tape, do I get Superman vibes? Like, are you? Apparently not. Apparently not. Do you remember how you were playing it? Like, you know, like. No, I played. I knew I was like, I just got to be me, you know, and if that's what he's looking for. So I was I did. I was. Yeah. Thank. Thank God I did not try to do.

39:43Yeah. The smoky eye. Like a little. That's my Superman. There you go. That's that's an inside. There it was. Oh, wow. That's what David does. and then the first time i told james that story after he dude he laughed harder and then anybody he laughed so hard and that felt great he was like how could you think that it's a little insulting james but okay okay it's not that not that funny but no that that was so i mean you talk about like just a golden ticket like total magic carpet ride from the beginning I mean, it was this, to be in like, Gunn, he's just like such a dreamer. He's got like, and he has the entire movie in his head always.

40:24And he, you know, he just sees it so clearly. And to have like a captain, you feel like, oh man, we can't. And he said, one of the things that really stuck with me, like when we first, I got the movie and then I didn't start filming for like a year. And so he had so much time to freak out and be like, man, this is a really big deal, like Superman. And finally comes around and like in three days, We shot like 80 % of my stuff in the first movie in this like, because we only had this location for a little while. So it just felt like all this time to think about it. And then it was gone. It was done.

40:54And so we're at this dinner like that week. And it was kind of spiraling a little bit, I think. And like James was like, like Jimmy, he calls me Jimmy. He's like, Jimmy, how you doing down there? And I was like half joking, like, I don't know, man, kind of freaking out a bit. Maybe I feel like I blew it or something, you know. And he got really serious. And he was like, have you seen my movies? And I was like, yeah. guys, like, do you think that, like, have you ever thought someone was bad in my movie? And I was like, no. He's like, right. He's like, I did my job. I did my, he's like, you're, don't worry.

41:21He's like, this is good for me to know, but like, you, and it was, it was kind of this thing where it's like, oh yeah, dude, like, it's not about, this guy is like, this movie, there's so many moving pieces. He's got the, and it was just like this massive relief of like, he's got it. Like, that's the, I'm here to do my job. I'm a crazy actor in my own head. I'm a crazy actor. You can't, you can't concern yourself with like, there's just so much, you have no idea editorially what he's thinking you don't know like structurally where you are in the movie or tonally what scene you're going where you're going like you try to think about but you just can't know yeah and so you kind of like yeah and then he's also as much as he knows the material and has like always keeps us he also like gives us so much room to try things and run and like it is such a it's a truly a dream dream job looking back and i've seen superman a lot i love that movie what he did, what you all did.

42:08It was fantastic. Thanks, man. Is Jimmy a good guy? He treats Tess Mocker. I don't know. I don't know how I would like, I don't want to be too judgy, but what do you, defend Jimmy's actions if you can. I think I, first of all, I'm glad you brought this up. It's alarming to hear. I'll work on that. I mean, we finished the second, I hope the second, I'm nicer. I'll work on it for the third. I'll do it. I'd say you're a mean guy. No, I know what you mean. I mean, you're a hero in the film. Let's say that. But Jimmy's really put upon, I think the, yeah, I thought, I think when Sarah's so funny and from her first audition, she had this energy that was like, she was just so bubbly and sweet.

42:47And I think James and I both thought like the funniest version of this is just Jimmy being so put upon by this person who is like so sweet, so well-intentioned, doting on him. And so sort of the more she went that way, it felt like the more I was going the other way. And that's just like how it shook out, you know? I think Jimmy, at the end of the day, he wants only the best. And I think you'll be happy to see in a second. No spoilers, but I think you'll be happy to see. What was the environment on Man of Tomorrow? We just had Adria here. Oh, no way. Yeah, it was awesome. How was her costume? She was very secretive with me.

43:30Oh, I haven't seen it yet. You haven't seen it? You didn't work with her? No. Oh, man. You're fine. Who cares? Whatever. i don't know um yeah i didn't know that's another set where like nobody but also nobody can keep secret like right you know everything gun will come up to him he'll be like pete saffron it's like yeah it runs the studio he'll be like don't tell pete but uh and then pete will be like well don't tell james but don't do that you all need to stop talking and then lars our live producer back james and pete told you all right and then like everybody do you get a whole script for a song like that yeah yeah you do okay yeah okay yeah which is awesome and um it was so much fun it's such a great that movie truly feels like uh because we film a lot of it at the studio uh where there's not a ton out there and so there's across from the studio one hotel like with like it's like kind of like the truman show there's like one street one of everything you need and it's sort of built to support the ecosystem of like the filmmaking and so everybody literally i've never been on set like that we're like everyone hangs out 24 7 yeah because like it you can't hide like there's no so we get dinner every night and like james usually spearheads it and like it feels like you're at summer camp it's like such a wonderful group of people you feel confident about what you guys were able to do it's wrapped by now it feels like special in its own way i hope so i i really do think um i i mean i i think i think this is a better and even a better movie i i think that it's uh yeah i i don't i don't i'm so terrified i was saying anything but james i i just think he's sort of like it's a theme with him he just like he he has this superpower of like the first movie he sees what everyone brought to their characters and then in this script you read it and he just sort of like zoomed in on what worked for everybody and like put it even more into their voice and sort of like just gives you more you know yeah i think it went well i think it went i think it went good okay so you're also knee deep in this Gorilla Grodd show.

45:24Yeah. Which, I mean, that's a high compliment that like the first spinoff, et cetera, from this universe. Totally. Like when did that come up? Was that on set? Like that must be a nice phone call, email, or something when James is like, we have this idea for this show, we want to center Jimmy. Totally. You know what's funny? From the beginning, it was one, I guess like it was one of the first ideas early, even before the movie, James had been, and he wanted something like a mockumentary set in this, he thought it would be great. And then Dan and Tony, literally who better than American Bandle is I think just unbelievable.

46:01And so when I first got the first movie, they were talking about it. It was in the works, but you sort of like, it sounded so amazing that I didn't wanna let myself get excited about it, because you're like, who knows? Like there's so much this and that and the next thing. And to be doing it now, it's like I said, I'm such enormous, I'm an enormous fan of Dan and Tony, and I can't believe we're getting to do it. I've never seen anything like it. I mean, the set photos, usually I'm not watching, looking at the set photos, I'm trying to avoid it, but check them out, guys. So what am I looking at?

46:33Is there a guy in it? Demetrius, yeah, they're a great body actor, and he's, I will never, I said like, no actor should ever complain ever again, this guy's in this full suit. We're in Atlanta, it's like 100 degrees, like 100 % humidity. they're pumping cold air in he's got to get the head off like every 10 minutes he's on unbelievable and singing apparently i've seen some singing and the the puppet team did an incredible job uh it's i think practically we're going to be able to get away with a lot um and not need to rely as much on cgi as they thought or uh yeah because i thought like it would be awkward acting across from him kind of like tennis ball acting yeah but the the puppet it's so you look into his eyes and you like immediately care about him and you feel like you're talking to somebody and uh it's been really fun so tonally is it going to feel like american vandalish like super funny like super awkward like i think so i think that that it is in that world totally and then i think the stakes because it's also you know metropolis i think it's sort of like that kind of comedy but with the uh the annie kind of revved up a little bit i can't wait honestly okay also i'm seeing this very soon they're giving me a sneak peek i think fokker and law yes yeah i'm very excited about this um obviously you mentioned before you're reteaming with ben which must be rewarding totally um then you add you know ariana grande into the mix i assume you're doing a lot with since you are partners in the film yeah um de niro needles to say again you've worked with a lot of luminaries totally man what's that set like looking to the left de niro to the right ariana grande awesome it's like superman where you're like you know coming into and just those movies meant so much to me as a kid and like it's a real uh yeah it it is having and also john hamburg who like he's such a hero of mine i like yeah it was very much uh like he gave us sharding with philip seymour hoffman back in the day long came polly man's a genius the best dude the best the best yeah i very very yeah so so so nervous coming in uh having worked with ben before was like very helpful and john's like the nicest dude ari is like the loveliest person and uh everyone calls Robert De Niro Bob Bob Bob was so warm that it was immediately a very familial environment and like it was so much fun I I know that I was very nervous about I might have said this before but like calling everybody calls Robert De Niro Bob right but I knew it would be insane for I wasn't gonna he's the greatest actor of all time I wasn't gonna come to set and be like hey Bob how you doing so it's like Mr.

49:03De Niro of course you know so I met him I came Mr. De Niro how you doing so nice to meet him and I'm playing his grandson you know so it's like playing your grandson he's like okay nice to meet you and then the first week of filming goes by like Monday Tuesday I'm like hey good morning Mr. De Niro and by the middle of the week I was starting to sense that like he wanted me to not call him Mr. De Niro energetically it felt like it was time to grab but he wasn't gonna he's so he's like this very chill guy it just felt like it was time okay I couldn't do I was like nervous I was nervous to go to Bob and so I made a game plan that Friday when we wrap end of week one going into the weekend so if it goes poorly i have time i'm gonna i'm gonna lay the first bob on him and it had been like because i'm playing it's supposed to be like a warm work and so like friday we wrap i was like ramping myself up and i was like all right bob thanks for a great week man and like i could have been reading too much into it but i think i saw a glimmer in his eye and he was like i'm happy i think i saw he was proud he's like you got famous the famous de niro little kind of it's been weird that you kept calling me mr but you insist that he calls you mr jazondo yeah yeah he once slipped up and said skyline i was like uh we're not there we're not quite there yet um but it was really we had a really fun time making that movie and um i've seen i think it's very sweet i can't i'm excited for people to see it you're also in the new shrek movie which is probably gonna make a gajillion dollars like it really probably will i'm putting my money on that one um were you a shrek person like is that a part of your childhood yeah everybody I think all of it like right you know that is the job of everything going on that is the one everybody in my life has been like dude Shrek like everything else is a cool like superman's alright truly truly Shrek is that's the I have arrived moment yeah everybody and for me too I yeah I can't it's been true the most because you're what you're doing the record right and they're playing like I have a scene I'm listening to Eddie Murphy's donkey and you're like I can't oh my god if like little me could see this is the most like you know that is the most surreal moment of it all I think have you met any other cast members no you're just unfortunately not because you're doing it yeah you know it's all isolated you know but this will be a press story you'll actually look forward to yes you'll get to meet everybody very much so okay so what are we I mean not that you need to manifest much at this point because you're very very busy yeah but like it does feel like you're in a bit of a transitional point dictated by the kind of opportunities you've had and made the most of dictate by your age where you're at like what are what are you you know 20s went well what did the 30s hold for you what are you hoping um i hope uh honestly um you know i i think truly working with with rob uh lit this kind of fire under me of like whatever it is whatever it looks like uh i i i look forward to like continuing to do these challenging things that feel very outside of my comfort zone hopefully and taking big swings and um i'm doing this this this next thing in the new year this say 24 movie called goblin yeah that sounds crazy which is a swing it's this way it's it's it's insane yeah it's it's uh it's other than primetime the most insane thing i've ever read and uh i'm really looking forward to like getting getting weird with it so you're not the goblin kenneth ron is the goblin of course yeah of course yeah yeah so but not physically he's like a voice of a goblin he's the voice yeah it's like a two and a half foot tall sure uh green guy yeah like a practical puppet and um that requires i think like 10 or 11 puppeteers simultaneously uh the test footage i've seen looks amazing and um yeah i i think yeah hopefully that for that's it for the 30s man just continuing to uh as much goblin work as possible as much between the grot and that yeah as much puppet stuff i mean you went crystal monkey uh way back in the day like monkeys gorillas goblins yeah that's the where do we go next i don't know man yeah good question yeah maybe back to breakdancing i was gonna say back to the dome probably back to my roots yeah busking and back to the dome i've always found my inspiration at the dome yeah when in doubt Before we wrap it up, happy second few is profoundly random questions for you, Skylar.

53:17Are you ready? Are you a dog or a cat person? Dog. You have one? Not currently. Okay, that's okay. Look at this unbroken eye contact. Yeah, we just locked in. What do you collect? What do I collect?

53:33That's a good question. I don't really... It can be nothing. Nothing, I guess. Surfboards, kind of. Okay. no i don't collect i just i have too many you have a few yeah uh but that's yeah i don't know i'd like to collect like guitars i think that i play that's cool right right now pianos you're a famous pianist so you yeah and i've always said that yeah and so piano i actually have a large collection uh very low maybe the largest of pianos wow that's cumbersome yeah cool it's that's just that's my life so that's what i do favorite video game of all time breath of the wild maybe i'm not like a big uh video game guy but that game got me dude i don't know who put me onto it but oh my god i just did the months disappeared into it's like the most fun have you played i haven't i mean i know of it but yeah yeah yeah it's amazing and now there's a game i know i'll play mario party with my friends sometimes i love mario party and there's a i but the majority i play backgammon on my phone and that that's 99 a sophisticated gamer like a sophisticated i have sunk i i at the end of my life if you could see how many i i would i have no it's good it's gonna have been years by the end i'm playing backgammon on my phone any interest in the grand theft auto this is gonna about to take over pop culture you know yeah the games i get you know as a kid my mom wouldn't let me play the violent ones and now as an adult i find they make me a little a little anxious a little upset i'm like this poor guy didn't deserve to get hit by a car and that i don't want to do that to that guy so I don't really enjoy I don't like it okay Dakota Johnson asked me this I ask everybody would you rather have a mouthful of bees or one bee in your butt

55:13bee in the butt yeah bee in the butt what did she say 90 % of people say bee in the butt that is the prevailing wisdom I feel like just practically just get it done with bees in the mouth you don't know if they're going you know down to the and then you have other problems be in the butt yeah i don't think he's going to be able to get deeper unlikely it depends on likely i don't right i'm not i'm not i'm not abreast of the right right how but i we'll get some medical texts out and see yeah we can get some input be in the butt for now uh what's the wallpaper on your phone it's a picture of me and my girlfriend nice last actor you were mistaken for uh all the time will poulter uh from not anymore not not boat not anymore but like five years ago jeremy Alan White and Will Poulter because Will Poulter did the year where the Millers came out is the year Vacation came out and both were like rated R family road trip comedies and we both play like the awkward teenage son yes and where the Millers made like a way bigger splash yeah and and so uh yeah people I it got to the point where there's at one point I just felt bad not telling me so I've taken pictures with people who think that I'm I've told store I've spun tales of like how I was like production was great it was great really like how was i was like because they're so excited yeah you're like it's not me yes and so you're like oh my god sudeikis the man yeah oh my god they're like oh that's and i've always wondered if he ever i doubt it catches up with him and then when before jeremy allen white got like jacked and became a huge movie star people and this guy was like look he still looks so cool people were like oh my god from shameless and a handful of times the kid from everybody hates chris oh and i recently was in an airport and this woman, God bless her, would not refuse to believe I was not.

57:01She's like, oh my God. And I was like, no. Oh, let me see a picture. No. She's like, quit playing with me. That's it. And I was like, no. She FaceTimes like her cousin. She's like, tell me this isn't. I was like, it's not me. And her cousin was like, that's you. Quit messing around. That's the guy. And I was like, I promise I would tell you. I swear to God. It was my government issued ID. I walked away, both of them thinking I'm a piece of shit, who just won't acknowledge that I'm the kid from Everybody Hates Chris. Well, you're well known to be that. worst note a director has ever given you damn you don't need to name names unless you want to um uh oh wow good question uh I I don't I've been lucky man I wish I had a good answer for you I think the only mistake it's not a note it's getting a note before you've done the take oh yeah yeah preemptively kind of closing something off it's like hey I was thinking that that can be because it's sort of like you know you get one she like i'm gonna you're gonna tell me and we're gonna do it like yeah we'll do it one with no let's do one where we have no idea what's gonna before there's any but i've never gotten like a bad right that's good yeah yeah i've been lucky okay been lucky and finally in the spirit of happy second fuse who's an actor who always makes you happy you see them on screen you're happy i think i'd say ryan gosling i think i mean who you know who doesn't but he there's he there's such a joy in his in everything of his i've been a fan of his like forever for my whole you know everything from the beginning but yeah he just and it seems like he's only he's only getting more and more in the pocket right um but yeah i'd watch yeah anything i think movie that makes you sad um i always forget if it's i always it's one of my favorite movies and i always mess up the title about about love or about time about time the donald gweeson yeah about time yeah it's so i can't have the emotion talk about it's so beautiful but it's so yeah and it is so uplifting and there's some but there's something uh oh it's so sad yeah so sad no it's a good one but it's so good and a food that makes you confused food that makes me confused yeah i don't i'm really i i will i don't venture out enough i will eat the same thing i don't give myself the opportunity to get confused because especially when i'm alone i'm doing like rotisserie chickens over this i'm i will eat the same thing every day wow for months from if i'm not where like i will walk at home there's a Bristol Farms right across I will just walk in chicken teriyaki bowl every day you can set your clock or and then after like three months I'll move off of that and there's like this uh place Benny this Mexican place I'll go get the carne asada every day every day for months right and I don't venture out enough um so I don't yeah I don't often get confused okay I'm just reliving the same day over and over and over and over I'm just like I'm just I just want the slop man I just want a bowl right just a bunch of meat just a meat vessel that just needs like something inputted it's not there for the pleasure just just no pleasure involved yeah it is just calories in calories out oh i've never related to someone less in my life literally what's your answer i mean there's plenty of things i don't like but i i like food is why i'm living my life yeah like not you just to keep you alive yeah yeah yeah i think i disagree i get anxious by the idea of like you know group everyone loves a group dinner sure right but it's always family style and it's like a bunch of small plates so you're playing this game the whole time oh i don't like that i don't like sharing oh i want someone else to get that first and then you're like oh did i take too much i take too much next thing you know you've been there for three hours you're still hungry yeah you didn't eat anything fulfilling yeah you're like i'm gonna i wish i had my slop yeah you're just in the corner with your little chicken teriyaki bowl yeah yeah like a monster yeah like a monster okay yeah um i appreciate you doing this thank you so much for having i didn't mention at You haven't done a lot of this.

1:00:44So I really appreciate you trusting me, coming on the podcast. Thanks for having me, man. It's coming at a great moment. Congratulations on Primetime, Fokker and Lost Shrek, Goblin-related material. And I'll see you at the Dome. I'll see you. Dude, I'll hold you to that, please. All right. I'll see you at the Dome. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Appreciate you. Thanks, man. And so ends another edition of Happy, Sad, Confused. Remember to review, rate and subscribe to this show on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm a big podcast person. I'm Daisy Ridley and I definitely wasn't sure to do this by Josh.

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