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The Game - A Football Podcast by the Girls, for Everyone
Episode 17
Stats, Speed, and Shocking Playoff Rankings
Episode Overview This episode focuses on various statistics from the current NFL season, highlighting player performance, team dynamics, and playoff predictions. The hosts, Victoria and Giovanna, engage in lively discussions about standout players and teams while analyzing the impact of statistics on game outcomes.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Player Spotlight: James Cook
- Performance Metrics:
- Currently second in rushing yards (968 yards) and seven touchdowns.
- Buffalo Bills lead the league in rushing yards (147.6 per game).
- Notable stats:
- 635 yards gained after contact.
- 30 runs exceeding 15 mph, with 2 runs above 20 mph.
- Analysis:
- Importance of broken tackles and yards after contact.
- Comparison of Cook to other top running backs like Jonathan Taylor and B. J. Robinson.
- Discussion on how crucial the run game has become in today’s NFL.
- Defensive Insights
- Spotlight on the Denver Broncos:
- Lead the league in sacks (49).
- Defense is a key factor in their success this season.
- The Patriots:
- Quietly climbing the ranks despite not leading in major offensive categories.
- NFC Dynamics
- Eagles and Rams leading a competitive field.
- Discussion on trench play and red-zone execution as deciding factors in playoff seeding.
- Betting Conspiracies
- Discussion on benchings that influence betting outcomes.
- Analysis of the fines ecosystem in the NFL:
- How penalties contribute to player support and community initiatives.
- Breakdown of various fine amounts for different infractions.
- Playoff Picture
- Current playoff standings and potential matchups:
- Eagles and Broncos holding the number one seeds in their respective conferences.
- Notable predictions about team performance and surprises in rankings.
- Stats in the Context of Culture
- Exploration of how statistics can inform narratives in the sport.
- Commentary on societal and cultural implications surrounding athletes, especially regarding betting.
Key Takeaways
- Statistical Growth:
- The increasing importance of stats in analyzing player and team performance.
- The significance of yards after contact and play speed in evaluating running backs.
- Defensive Performance:
- Highlighting how critical defensive strategies can affect game outcomes.
- The role of effective offensive line play in supporting running backs.
- Cultural Commentary:
- The intersection of sports, culture, and betting dynamics.
- Acknowledgment of how player personas and behaviors impact public perception, especially for rookies like Shadur Sanders.
- Community Impact:
- The financial repercussions of fines and how they are utilized for community support and player welfare.
Conclusion The episode provides a comprehensive look at the current state of the NFL season through the lens of statistics, player performances, and cultural narratives. The hosts encourage listeners to engage with them through social media and community platforms for further discussions and feedback.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:22I'm Victoria. I am Giovanna. The game's on. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Welcome back to another episode of your favorite football podcast by the girls for everyone, the game. We are in our second week of doing three episodes per week. So a yap and recap, chatty, covering all of the storylines that we love on Tuesdays. Now we are in our stats episode for Thursday. And then tomorrow we have Isabel Sewell. Her plus one is Penny Sewell on the Lions. So he has a long-term contract with the Lions and she talks a lot tomorrow about motherhood and making friends moving and a lot about just not being ashamed about the choices that she's made as a woman, which we absolutely love.
1:10So we cannot wait for you to hear that episode tomorrow. But for today, again, we are on our stats focused episode. So talking a little bit more about the ins and outs, a little bit more numbers, a little bit more play calling, et cetera. So let's just get right into it. We are doing this episode for downs. So every down is a different topic and it is a bite-sized stats episode for you. If there's certain stats that you love, please DM us on Instagram or TikTok at the game, the podcast, or you can always DM me at Hey Victoria Henderson. And thanks for being here. We love having you and we love chatting with you.
1:45And if you're not in the sub stack chat, the game podcast.substack.com Tell us your opinions. Okay. First down, the stat king who is dominating right now, spotlighting a player that is owning the league. James Cook running back for the bills is second in overall rushing yards at 968 yards and seven touchdowns. I feel like people love James Cook because they love Josh Allen, but I feel like James Cook can stand alone. Sans Josh Allen. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree. James Cook was like one of those things walking into this season. I don't think I would have expected him to be as dominant. He's a good running back, but I think it was a little surprising for me to see how dominant he's been outside of other running backs like Jonathan Taylor.
2:34Like I feel like James Cook is up there. Maybe I would like rank maybe Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, James Cook. Cook is up there with like B.J. Robinson. What's also interesting about James Cook is the Buffalo Bills lead the league in rushing yards right now. Total rushing yards averaging per game, and that's 147, which I thought was really interesting. 147 yards, 0.6 per game. Bills. A lot of points. But when you look at that and then see how, like I said, dominant James Cook has been, makes sense. Makes sense. I do feel like it's a year for breakout running backs. Like we talked a couple, we talked last week about just how much the run game is so important in the NFL now.
3:18And it's, you know, becoming even more important year over year. But I feel like James Cook and Jonathan Taylor were two people that we were not expecting to be one and two in rushing yards.
3:36And total. And he's about to hit that with, you know, we're not even halfway. If the bills do end up going into the playoffs, do end up going, making a super bowl run. We're just about at the halfway, I guess we are at the halfway mark and he's already produced, you know, what is that like 50 yards less than what he did all season last season. Yeah. Averages 5.3 yards, which is also up from last year. He had 4.9 yards per carry. He did have a lot of touchdowns last year, 16. He's now at seven. So he'll need to up those touchdowns if he wants to beat that stat. But I think yards alone, he's obviously producing and being a big part of what's making the bills great this year.
4:21One stat that I have just become aware of and started to love. Okay. So I love a broken tackle. I feel like a broken tackle is so hot. Like if you can break two tackles and score, like wow i'm into that you're athletic and uh he has 635 yards after contact so yeah wow i know crazy i know this stat is crazy and we need to look into like what does contact actually mean it doesn't mean like an attempted tackle but just like contact being pushed, being touched. Um, but 635 yards after contact and his total yards is 968. So that's a large percentage of his yards after he's getting a hand on. Yeah. I do like that.
5:10I like that set a lot. Cause I feel like you hear about like some of the best receivers, even the best running backs too, in the league. We talk a lot about like yards after catch. So like after you catch the ball, after you receive the ball, how many yards are you producing? And are you, you know, making that play into a touchdown, making that play into, you know, a conversion on fourth down. So yards of the contact, I feel like that has to mean after you've been touched or like you said earlier, missing, breaking those tackles. It's really awesome for me to also look at running backs when they're quite literally being pulled down by like 200, 300 pound linemen and their legs are still going.
5:49Like they're still turning. And it's awesome for me to see. yeah also one of my favorite things to watch is like a big man leading the way who's like super fast there is a cardinals oh my gosh a cardinals o-lineman who's just an absolute animal just like barreling people down and their running backs are just like trotting along cutely behind them until they can like make a breakaway i'm gonna have to find him and bring him up next week because I was watching his, like some of his plays and I would just, yeah. Yeah. Because like a big man who can move is insane. And I feel like it's like the athleticism is just absolutely wild.
6:31Yeah. Shout out to the O-line. People forget how, people forget how important they are. Justice for offensive linemen. Honestly, justice for linemen in general, because we hear all the time about like safeties making plays. We hear all the time about wide receiver and running backs and blah, blah, blah. And literally none of that would happen if your linemen don't do their job. At all. Quarterback can't get the ball out. Your running backs are not going to have the holes to hit. So it's very important. Very, very important. Very, very important. On James Cook. So 23 rushes over 10 yards this season.
7:08I love a breakaway. I feel like obviously that's so fun to watch. Okay. And then I also have a second new favorite stat and it is runs over 15 or 20 miles an hour. So last year, Jameer Gibbs got a ton of good press for going over 22 miles an hour in a breakaway touchdown last year, but they have the stats for speed over 15 and 20 miles an hour for all players. So James Cook has 30 runs over 15 miles an hour and two over 20 miles an hour, which I just think is so badass, but 30 runs over 15 miles an hour. That's so fast. No. Have you, maybe you haven't done this, but have you ever like got with your friends and like try to run past the, like the, the signs that like mark your speed?
8:03Like when you're driving, you know have you ever done that before no okay just me okay never mind but um i i've done that with my friends and i don't think people understand how impressive it is to get to that top speed and also the amount of seconds it takes you to literally go from zero to 100 and this is why these running backs are dominating in their respective you know positions because the top speed and getting there is just elite. Yeah. So a 15 mile per hour pace is a four minute mile. Yeah. And then a 20 mile per hour pace is about three minutes per mile, which has never been done. And now I want to look up mile time world records because how fast are we really going here?
8:59because for that long of a distance, which is, I mean, a mile is not crazy long, but. Okay. So the men's, this feels wrong, but men's world record is three minutes, 43 seconds, 43.13 seconds. It looks like El Garouge of Morocco in 1999, while the woman's mile world record is 407 by faith kip yogan of kenya in 2023 which is yeah this is confirmed in multiple sources moroccan athlete three minutes 43 seconds that is so insane that's fast that is fast that is so fast and to to put this into perspective if you go to orange theory the old treadmills at Orange Theory only go up to 12 and the new treadmills at Orange Theory go up to 15.
9:52So that's a four minute mile, but you never see anybody doing anything except like sprinting on them. So it's just absolutely wild. So on that note, I was like, okay, well, that's pretty fast. He's pretty fast, but like, who's the fastest, you know, like who are our top guys who have run 20 miles an hour or more multiple times this season. So Jonathan Taylor has the most over 20 mile per hour runs. We don't have the exact MPH numbers. We just know that it's 20 plus Jonathan Taylor six times. And then Derek Henry, Saquon, Derek Henry is on running back on the Ravens, Saquon running back on the Eagles, Jameer Gibbs running back on the Lions all have four runs over 20 miles an hour.
10:39Then we have a Brees Hall running back on the Jets, Keaton Michael running back on the Ravens. And this is my favorite one of them all. Did you read my note? Do you know who the next person? Dang it. I wanted you to guess. I know I was nosy. I'm sorry. No, no, it's okay. I never would have guessed this, but Kayla Williams quarterback. back are you kidding me yeah three runs over 20 miles an hour that's insane i don't think any any anybody could have like ever guessed that and you also i mean we know keel williams can run and we see him run a lot but not we we're not like putting him up there in like one of the best elite dual threat rushing quarterbacks.
11:27So that's what makes that stat kind of crazy and impressive. Yeah. And it's like the Bears quarterback. The Bears. The Bears. The Bears. Just absolutely crazy. So that's like stat of the week for me is Caleb Williams has had faster runs than the majority of running backs in the league, which obsessed with that for him. Okay. That's all I have for our first one. James Cook is killing it. I'm excited to see him almost double his stats from last year. Hopefully he stays healthy. Maybe he'll be able to break into this 20 mile an hour or more crew that we have going on here. But let's talk about second down, conference check-in.
12:17Second down. Right on time. Let's do it. Right on time. Let's go. Who's separating? Who's slipping? You want to take it away on this one? Yeah. And before we actually get into the sauce, because we mentioned it last week on our stats episode, guys, the Chiefs are seriously not looking good right now. Like, they actually might miss the playoffs. I don't know. I feel like I can't say that yet. It's too early because it's the Chiefs. But after this week's loss, the Broncos, I am genuinely worried for them. Like, they have to turn it around. They got to figure it out. Patrick Mahomes is the fourth best quarterback in passing leaders.
13:02You know, he has 2 ,625 passing yards, which is really good. And he's still up in the top five. But that is just crazy. And speaking of the Broncos, both teams are sitting at 9-2, which is obviously amazing. Colts, we talked about them last week. They're at 8-2 as well. So it's just crazy. And the Broncos, the Broncos. Wow. I'm shook. I actually think they do lead the league in sacks right now, which, again, speaks to my point about their defense just being absolutely insane. It's a gauntlet. Yeah, they lead the league in sacks with 49. The number two team is the Atlanta Falcons with 34. So there's a pretty good gap right there.
13:4949 sacks, like in the season right now, that's a lot of sacks. Like they're getting up in the quarterback's face, which is why they're winning games. Getting up in the quarterback's face. They are. I'd be scared. I think one of their linemen is like his name is Benito or something. Man's a dog. Absolute dog. absolute dog yeah you know it's i don't know we'll see that's how i feel about the chiefs like i feel like i can't predict anything because my last prediction failed this week so now i'm like i'm gonna keep my mouth shut i'm not gonna keep my mouth shut but i feel like they're a closing team and they couldn't close it and that's embarrassing for them also okay swifties don't get mad at me but there's like something that i've started to love about Travis Kelsey missing passes and just how upset he gets.
14:40That's crazy. Literally preying on this man's downfall. No, I don't. You guys, I love Travis, but I just feel like there's like this like, man, like. The snap. It was a snap for me. It's like his least manly moment is like when he misses a pass and he's like bummed about it. This is why guys are dramatic. Big and like sexy and like whatever. And I feel like when he misses a pass, there's just something like, so like he was like childish about it or almost like his like, his like weird dancing in the kitchen side kind of feels like it comes out. So that's not on stats. I have literally no numbers on that.
15:19So I apologize, but I apologize. Just have to put it out there for everyone to. Yeah. Yeah. But you know, you mentioned the Patriots and the Broncos both with nine and two. And I know that buys are involved, but now their records are better than the Colts record at eight and two. So the Colts have been kind of like an unabashed leader that everyone's been talking about. And I heard another girl on like a podcast clip. It was like a girl and a guy and they were chatting and they were saying that they loved how the Colts were like acting essentially because they were like, well, they're not expecting to win.
16:00They're just enjoying it while it's happening. Like Carly's enjoying it. She's like wearing her outfits and the boys are enjoying it and they're not like so caught up in it yet, which I think is maybe why I'm like kind of thinking that it's funny because the Chiefs are caught up in it and have the external pressure where the Colts can just like kind of win. I feel like it's like the Colts are a startup, right? Like they just had a big change. They're like going through all of these changes. They're like learning each other. They're having a great time. They're celebrating. They have some like breakout guys.
16:34They've like raised some funding. I mean, they haven't raised any funding, but like in the startup world, like they have their series A, they're like raising for their series B and they're like super excited about it. But the chiefs are like the meta of it all facing the adversity of being on top. And so I just liked the way that she talked about it. So broke it down, broke it down, but yeah, Patriots and Broncos, both with that nine and two Patriots coming up Bengals, Giants, Bills, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins. I cannot imagine the Patriots falling below second at this point. I mean, Bills, Patriots, I feel like it's going to be absolutely bonkers, but here's the thing though and i said this last week the patriots like even though their record reflects a really good record they're how they win and it's similar to the broncos how they win games is kind of suspect and also when you look at the patriots i can't say about this but the broncos because the broncos are in the top five and are like are leading in sacks but the patriots when it comes to sacks turnovers passing yards rushing yards overall total offensive yards they're not in the top five in any of those categories.
17:47No, they're literally not in the top five for anything. Exactly. And so when you think about that, well, I mean, unpredictable. And W is a W. And like your record, y 'all got those wins. I'm proud of you. I do like the Patriots. I love Drake May. And it's really interesting because everyone, have you been seeing the tea with him and his girlfriend? So I just followed his girlfriend like yesterday, but they've been together since they were 12. Yeah. and it's funny because she like loves cooking and so she'll make all we have to have her on the show but she makes all this kind of stuff and and people have really flocked to drake may and like become really big fans of drake may this season and so all the comments on her tiktok and her instagram are like we hope you take good care of drake may tonight we hope you know he's eating right it's it's so funny it's it's so funny but back to our stats focus things yeah patriots not Not leading or not in the top five in any categories.
18:45Not even on the chart. Not even on the chart. They're a sleeper. They're a sleeper. Like the Colts are not sleepers right now. The Colts are in the top five in, you know, many of these categories. Rushing yards, passing yards, and total yards. They're in the top five on defense. They're not on the map at all. but the Patriots are sleepers. And I mean, really looking at this list, like, okay, so Broncos are leading in sacks with 49 and they're leading in defensive yards allowed, 274.4 yards allowed. The Texans are number one in that category. Broncos are three. Texans are one with 258.1 yards allowed, which is great defense.
19:35Great defense. They have one of the best defenses in the league year in and year out. Their defensive coordinator is a great mind. But yeah, the Texans. Are you talking about Texans or Broncos? The Texans. The Broncos, they have a good defensive coordinator too, but the Texans specifically have just a very good defense. You know what I feel like the surprise stat in the leaders is? Cleveland Browns. Yeah, low-key. Cleveland Browns on defense. It's because of Miles Garrett, though. Yeah. But, I mean, still, 273.5 second in yards allowed and fourth in sacks with 32 tied with the Seahawks. I don't think they were going to be on this list.
20:22Miles Garrett just puts the team on his back. Miles Garrett's like, don't worry, guys. I'm the whole team. No sweat here. No panic here. Okay. So going on to the NFC, Eagles and Rams are both 8-2. I feel like the Rams did, like, I've known the Rams are good, but they were kind of sleeping in my mind just a little bit. Obviously, they faced the Seahawks this weekend, beat the Seahawks. That was a huge win for them to put them at the top of the West. But now they both are... Very big win. Very big win. Sitting at 8-2. Nice close game there. Rams coming up. Bucks, Panthers, Cardinals, Lions, Seahawks, Falcons, Cardinals.
21:02Cardinals. So we'll see how they hold up against Bucks, Lions and Seahawks again. But that's only three of their games that I'm really looking at thinking, could those be closer games? I'm not really concerned about the Panthers, Falcons or Cardinals, although the Panthers, you never know. Don't you can't sleep on them. Can't sleep on them. And then Eagles coming up. Eagles are here in Dallas, where I am currently this weekend facing the Cowboys and then Bears, Chargers, Raiders commanders bills so I feel like they kind of have even schedules on potential to to kind of stay at the top yeah I feel like and again the NFC we talked about on our last episode the NFC is so wide open right now so literally anything can happen yeah yeah it's definitely like the more exciting conference in terms of shift unpredictability then yeah yeah I'm I'm rooting for the Rams, though.
21:59Other than the Rams? I am rooting for the Rams. I like the Rams a lot this year. Yeah, I need to go up to SoFi and go to a Rams game. I've only been to Chargers games at SoFi. And Chargers games are like okay at SoFi. I think they need to like build them up a little bit more. I just feel like... Do you feel like the Rams team is low-key? Like, can you say that there's like a better team in LA? Like not looking at stats, but just looking at fan engagement, looking at community, looking at like, who do we think Rams or Chargers? I feel like Rams. Honestly. Or is it the same? Okay. This is how I really feel.
22:41I feel like LA doesn't really care about either of them, to be honest. I feel like Southern California cares more about other sports than they do about the NFL. Like I feel like Southern California cares more about baseball than they do at baseball and basketball than they do the NFL. That's fair. And I feel like having two blue and yellow teams that play in the same stadium that are both like neither of them have really had any Super Bowl promise over the last what? Like, I don't know. Not that many years. Well, I mean, we just had us. The Rams just won a Super Bowl like not too long ago. Yeah.
23:19When was their win? I'm pretty sure that won in like 20 that was COVID year I believe oh 2020 okay well my you know what that was irrelevant so but I don't know I don't know maybe LA girls tap in because I I mean I'm from San Diego we had the Chargers Chargers went up to LA they lost a huge fan base in San Diego even though it's not like Buffalo that's all I have to say it's not like Buffalo and it's not like Dallas where everyone's a fan and everyone cares about it and everybody's in it like there's so many cities that are so much more into the NFL than LA is. And that's why I feel like both of them, like they have their fans and their fans are great and lovely and wonderful and awesome.
23:59And I'm sure we'll meet so many girls that are fantastic, but it's just not the same kind of culture around the NFL that I feel like you can find in other cities, Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, like you cannot put a Chargers tailgate against a Green Bay tailgate. Yeah. I feel like it's also the competition in the state of California alone. You'll have three NFL teams. Like that's insane. We have three NFL teams. We also were four hours away from Vegas where the Raiders are. You have the Seahawks right above us. Like the Cardinals, I could drive to the Cardinals stadium. Like it's a lot, a lot going on.
24:37Like pretty chill. So it could just be like an East coast, West coast thing, except game times are definitely better on the West Coast. Like I miss, since I've not been in San Diego, like I miss waking up at like 8.30, going for a walk for an hour and then coming back and sitting on the couch with my coffee. Now it's like noon. I'm like, you want me to eat lunch while I'm watching the game? That's insane to me. Speaking of Vegas, let's talk about this Cowboys Vegas game on starting off our third down, which is just what's interesting this week. And we're going to talk about how stats combine with storylines, but I want to start introducing betting on this episode and what's interesting about Vegas calls.
25:20Cowboys played the Raiders first drive of the game. Cowboys are in offense. CD lamb and George Pickens are not out on the field. They are benched, which if anybody knows that is unheard of. Why are your number one and number two receivers sitting on the bench and the first drive of your game reports come out. They're getting benched because they're being punished for something. There's also people saying that, oh, this is a Vegas call. Anybody that has money on CD and George Pickens scoring on the first drive, their money's fried. So it's interesting to look at the difference between like, okay, are you really getting benched because the coach has a problem with you or bad behavior?
26:00Or did you get benched because Vegas made a call and there's a lot of money on these players on this game so you can't you know play them so it's interesting to see there have been reports that have come out now that said that cd and george were spotted at casinos partying doing that in the morning because they were in vegas which is why they got benched but i don't know i don't know okay i do not think that the majority of things happen because of outside of football action like if you listen to players they're like i don't give a shit about fantasy like they don't care about fantasy and so a lot of people say like and like i feel like i've just seen more players come out and be like that it just doesn't matter because it like fantasy has no stake in the game i feel like money though i don't want to believe that players are acting based on external forces often.
26:58I think there are crooked people. In every sport, there's a scandal about a ref messing up the play calling, et cetera. But I don't want to believe that betting and money is impacting on the field play because I just think it's like annoying and depressing. And I think it's like kind of righteous of the betters to be like, what we want matters. And it's like, relax. If you want what you want to matter, pay off a politician like everyone else? I feel like there's two sides of the spectrum. I do feel like in the league, there are some like, and it's not necessarily you're betting on it and you need to make a call to make it happen.
27:36It's really the opposite. And I feel like if you, if there's, let's say if there's a million people that have put$10 on C.D. Lamb scoring a touchdown in the first drive, it is more than likely that Vegas is going to make a call for him not to do that because they don't want to pay out that money or they don't want, you know. So I do feel like those things happen in the league. Is the team playing out? Who's paying out the money? Okay, guys, I don't know anything about sports betting to be completely honest. I've never sports bet before. I don't know how to do a parlay. Maybe next year I will, but Giovanna's taken on the betting side of this full-heartedly because just straight up, I don't spend my money on sports.
28:15It's not like, I mean, there's so many different avenues to use bet And it's not like there's one singular person paying out, but they're, I mean, you have all these different apps, Vandal, DraftKings, like all those different apps. Every app and they're not all run by the same person. Then how is like. Because it's still, it's still like a Vegas call. Like it's still people. It's confusing. but when you look at where the money is coming from and how it's getting put to these people, it kind of goes back to the same place. This is, this is my question. Where is the money coming from? I mean, I don't really know where each person is getting like each.
28:58It's like, how can this like, I don't know. It doesn't make sense to me. I'll do, I'll do my research. I don't think there's like one person that's like, I don't know if there's an answer to that question, but I see where you're coming from. Is there like a group text of like the FanDuel owner and the owners of whatever else that's saying like bench CD because we don't want to pay this out, but also people are paying money into it. So it's like you want more people. Okay. Well, that makes sense. When you're addicted, when you're addicted, but when you have all these people that are like into sports betting and that bet consistently, when they lose, you're actually making more money because then they're mad about them losing.
29:42And so they're going to continuously bet until they hit. Okay. So, but then that makes sense that they bench, then it makes sense that they bench CD so he doesn't score so that they lose so then they put more money. Correct. Which hypothetical situation, it can happen to anybody, any player. But this is also why in the NBA, we've seen scandals about, you know, refs, coaches, players conspiring. Oh, my homeboy plays in the NBA. hey, listen, I just put a million dollars on you to not cover the under or to get your under. So like, let's say you have 260 passing yards and I bet on you to have 265 passing yards.
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30:23And I need you to go under in order for me to win that money. And you're in the league and I know you, I'm going to call you and say what's up. When I own a team one day, okay do not call me with this this is so annoying like but it's an industry like it's it's i feel like if i'm a ref and i get a call like that i'd be like when you when you see how much money these people can make like you can turn five dollars into two grand no i i understand that like you can make a shit ton of money betting gambling like i'm not immune to that understanding i'm I'm just saying if I ever end up in a referee position, don't call me.
31:05And like, you think that I'm going to remember you in the middle of all of that? I got a sweaty man that just fell on my head. Like, I just got hit by an NFL player. I'm not thinking about you, John, and the million dollars you don't need. Yeah, no. I mean, I feel like it's like, it has to be somebody close to you. I don't think they would do it for like a random. It's like your brother or something. Yeah, literally. Literally. Yeah. Yeah, it's really interesting. I think it's like such a dynamic topic. And I think that like sports betting is super cool. And I know like so many people love it.
31:37And it's definitely something that I like want to learn more about. It's just like shocking to me. It just is shocking to me. But maybe it's just because I haven't been exposed to it, you know? So like it. Yeah. No, I'm still, I'm still like learning a lot about the industry, but it's just, it's so massive. And obviously in Texas, I only get half of the good stuff because it's legal to actually sports bet in Texas. this. You can only do player props, which is like betting on a person's passing yards, betting on a person's sacks in a game. I can't actually bet on money lines and stuff. So we're just kind of like that.
32:10Okay. You know what we need to do? We need to have like an elite woman's sports better on. Yeah. And then ask her like all of the questions so that the girls who are new to sports betting or who sports bet, but want to like learn some hacks, we need to like get maybe someone at FanDuel or something like in it, in it. Yeah. And then we can ask some real questions like blink twice the shady she's like blinking twice at every single question that we ask because everything is so like i i have full faith that everything is so shady in the sports betting world i just can't but i have one money so it makes me happy yeah i mean like yeah you bet on things like it's fun super no it's too fun i have to stop sometimes yeah anyways what other storylines are we talking about this week?
32:59Because I feel like there has been a lot. And I know we talked about spit gate, but I know you did a deep dive into fines and stuff like that. Yes. So Jamar, so Isaac Rochelle, who is now working in broadcasting, his wife, Alison Cooch is like a huge influencer. Isaac played on like multiple teams and got out. He recently retired, like officially retired. And now he's working in media and he has been like pretty Instagram active or like social media active. But I feel like even more now he's talking a lot about like what's going on in the field, mentioning things kind of part of his new role. And he mentioned that Jamar Chase is losing around$600 ,000 for spit gate.
33:40So then I'm wondering what happens when you get fined? So I dove in to fines a little bit and I'll try to keep this pretty short, but basically fines are assessed and collected. And it goes to the Professional Athletes Foundation and the NFL Foundation. And the Professional Athletes Foundation is the leading, longest standing, most robust former player support organization, having awarded upwards of$25 million to players in need and engaged over 5 ,000 members through various well-being initiatives. So I went on their site and they have financial support, health and wellness, community events, wellness retreats, which is actually like a really sweet thing because a lot of these guys get out of college, they get an NFL deal, they make a ton of money and then they lose all of the money or spend all of the money because the average length in the NFL is somewhere around like three years.
34:28And then also going from like being an athlete to being a non-athlete. We've talked about this a couple of times, like the mental toll of that. And then like, also like if you don't make it in the NFL, like your dreams, essentially, you know, a lot of people will see that as a failure. And then like, what do you do next? And did you get a degree that could actually help you or not? And, and how do you kind of move through life? So I actually have, you know, been interested in kind of like what they're doing. And then the NFL foundation supports health, safety, and wellness of athletes across all levels, including youth football and the communities that support the game.
35:01So I love that. I just feel like the penalties, they're not just going back to like owners or to like big NFL. I mean, I guess they are, but it seems like they're at least showing and saying that they're going to a good cause. And I do know that like so many teams and the NFL do do a lot for the community. And it's one of the reasons why I'm down to be talking about them every single week. So the highest two fines that you can get are offense against an official, physical contact is the highest over$40 ,000. And then verbal is the second highest. And then fighting player to player is also the same amount over$40 ,000 if you fight player to player.
35:45So So there's a range for every single... A.K.A. Spigot. A.K.A. Spigot. Yeah. There's a range for every single fine in the NFL, which I think is interesting. So different players with different offenses can be... Like all of the fines are assessed. So we only have data up until the previous week. So we just plead week 11. We only have data up to week 10. Physical contact with an official$40 ,686 first offense, Second offense,$81 ,374. And then if you have verbal or other non-physical offense against an official,$32 ,547 for a first offense,$65 ,100 for a second offense. And then again, the fighting, same numbers.
36:31First offense,$40 ,686. Second offense,$81 ,374. Okay. my favorite one of these that I learned, if you leave the bench area during a fight, every player that leaves the bench area during a fight, first offense,$12 ,172. Yeah. Like you just get off the bench to join the fight, 12K, out, gone. Yeah. But it's so funny to me because like they just don't care. Like they literally don't care. I mean, Dak Prescott's making 60 million a year. 12K, not an issue. It's also funny to me when they get fined for like wearing certain things like your socks or your shorts or wearing the wrong undershirt or like a bad celebration you can get fined for.
37:20Like all that stuff is hilarious to me. Yeah. So there's multiple uniform ones. So foreign substances on body slash uniform, whatever that means. That's like just under$6 ,000. Chin strap, shoulder pads, thigh, knee pads, overbuilt face mask. Your pads are wrong. It's$5 ,797. Unapproved visor tint or lack of brand marks. Again, that$5 ,797. Personal messages, just under 12K. Unauthorized logo, branding, or intellectual property, just under 12K. Uniform violations, socks, jerseys, undergarments, et cetera, $5 ,797. And the interesting thing about the uniforms is all of those fines double. the second time.
38:06And then the uniform violation, the socks, jersey, undergarments, that one over tripled. So first offense,$5 ,797. Second offense,$17 ,389 for your socks. That's crazy. Insight. I looked up, I want to know how much money week by week is assessed in fines in the NFL. yeah i so we can get that stat next week i do have total plays this season through week 10 23 ,677 plays there were 191 fines from plays which is 0.81 so less than a percent of all result in fines up to week 10. And top fines from week 10 are third place,$22 ,388. Brandon Stevens on the Jets, unnecessary roughness use of helmet. Then Javon Kinlaw on sportsmanlike conduct with an official got fined$28 ,555.
39:15And the highest fine from week 10, Ale Cahoe, Washington commanders, unnecessary roughness, use of helmet got fined$46 ,371. So it seems like they have a minimum amount for the fine and then the league assesses the fine and then they decide what the final number is. We have 46 ,000 for use of helmet, unnecessary roughness. It's a big, that's a big fine. And I'm really excited for next week to come out to see how much exactly did Jamar Chase lose? Can we break it down? Let's see what the NFL actually finds him. And then when you get suspended, like Jamar Chase did, he's losing his player bonus for being an active player.
39:56He's losing the, his like money from that week. So, you know, a lot of these are also dynamic, like you can get fined, but if you get, don't get to play, then that's also huge. So we'll be looking out for that next week. We'll also do all of the, what is the total amount in finds up to week 11 on next week's episode to give you guys an idea of how much money it is because it's so crazy. And like, it just doesn't like that. It's like chump change for them. Fun fact. I went to college with Brandon Stevens. Oh, really? Beastie. Yeah. You want to text them? Be like, listen, you don't care about that.
40:33You want to just Venmo me? Yeah. Just go ahead. That's a good cause. Supporting my well-being is a good cause. Supporting my new car. Supporting my GY. supporting the purchase of givana's g wagon yeah accepting donations now okay fourth down we're in crunch time let's go fourth down fourth down i kind of like this is kind of my favorite one low-key because it's like talking about how the season is shaping out and guys we are really like it's gonna be december i know we gotta go to more games yeah the super Bowl's going to be here tomorrow. Not really, but it feels like it's going, it's like barreling towards us.
41:20But let's talk playoff picture. As of right now, and this is like vetted, this is from Fox, which NFL playoff picture going into week 12. Currently, the Eagles and the Broncos, Eagles and the NFC have the number one seed. Broncos and the AFC have the number one seed. So not super shocking there in the AFC. The Patriots have the two seed and if everything stands, they will then play the Jaguars who have the seventh seed right now. Bills are at the fifth seed. They will play the Steelers who are at the fourth seed. Colts, the third seed, they will play the Chargers bull up at the sixth seed and the AFC.
42:02So those are the games through week 12 and the AFC and the NFC. not really surprises. Cowboys are out. So depressing, but Lions are out on this list as well. So at number one seeded, like I said, in the NFC, Eagles, number two seed is the Rams. They will be playing the 49ers at the seventh seed. The Bears are out the third seed. They will face off against Green Bay at the sixth seed. And the Bucks have the fourth seed who will then play the Seahawks at the fifth seed. So I feel like this year, and we've alluded to this already a lot on the show, just kind of a wild card like teams that are actually have the seating and again this could change drastically from now until actual playoff time but just not in my wild card i mean jaguars out of the afc would not have predicted steelers would not have predicted being the fourth seed would not have the bears to be as high as they are the 49ers walking into the season with all their injuries are still playing very good so just a lot of up and down but speaking of both LA teams, both LA teams are up there and are a part of the playoff picture out of SoFi.
43:11Maybe they're doing something right. Yeah, maybe I'm talking too much shit. Victoria's like, yeah, no, it's fine. I said what I said. I said what I said and I made what I said. Let me know. I need to go to a Rams game IRL, so could be wrong. Also, I have a great friend who I met on TikTok who's a Chargers girl, and she's awesome. Her name is Jessie. She asks like fans funny questions. She says like, are you a funny fan? Jessie Price. You guys should look her up. She rocks. She's out in LA. So shout out, Jessie. Shut up. Okay. Well, I think that's all we have for you today. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for listening.
43:50Give us your opinions because I feel like we said a lot of opinions today. So come into the Substack chat, go into our DMs. Remember, we're kind here so you can have an opinion, but be nice. Just kidding. I'm really not worried about you guys being nice. I like you guys are the best. So. So you can come at me. It's fine. I'll send you a voice note back. When you can't type. Yes. And if you do know anybody who works in sports betting, who you would like us to interview, please let us know because I think that'd be a really, really awesome interview to get. So I'll work on that this week and see if we can't get somebody in sports betting, maybe even closer to the playoffs.
44:26I think that would be super dynamic to have a sports betting girl talking us through kind of how to make bets, what bets often hit during the playoffs, what are safer bets, what are riskier bets, and who could be trying to rig the games. Can I tell you something real quick that I just saw? Yeah. So as some of y 'all know, Victoria was quite literally gallivanting across Europe. This just to end, the Saints are expected to play a game in Paris next season. It's the Saints though. No, we can go with Allie. Are you kidding? Oh, that would be fun. Allie, if you're listening, I'll call you. Pack your bags.
45:06Pack your bags. We're going to Paris. No, you guys, when I tell you we're going to Paris, we are going to Paris. Okay. Also, more breaking news. Shadur Sanders is going to start in week 12. Shadur, if you didn't listen to our last episode, we talked about him a little bit. Rough first game for him, but you know what? I still believe in him. And oh my God. Oh my God. We almost missed this. His house got broken into. What? Last week. He had a bad, bad week. That's rough. Horrible NFL debut. Horrible. And his house got broken into. Like I'm over the Shadur hate. I'm just over it. Like nobody deserves to be hated that fucking much.
45:45Like nobody deserves to be bullied. Nobody deserves to like get their fucking house broken into. Welcome to NFL. Nobody deserves to have like a billion white men over the age of 50 calling for their head. That's exhausting. Yeah. It's a hate. Hate, hate hate. Yeah. Yeah. Shadour is just a guy. He's 22 years old. 22. Or 23. I don't know how old it is. 22, 23, 24, whatever. Something like that. I'm over the Shadour hate. I hope he plays a great game. I hope he smashes it so hard that everyone has to shut up. I feel like he will. I want a full 180 of the media next week. I'm gonna man I'm gonna go meditate and manifest it for him because he's had like a terrible week he has no he has no choice he has to go play good and I will be judging him on this performance because all week he's gonna box with the ones all week he's gonna have to have his life to get together so if he plays bad unfortunately you cannot judge him on this week alone that is so crazy of you no i this this game is so massive for his career he has to play good he has to play well it's not going to be good for his career but who are they going to use next well i mean who's going in next it is the browns i actually don't yeah they got made fun of so much for having 97 quarterbacks they dropped them all so he's all they have yeah they have no choice and again Shadr has to play good.
47:13Shadr has to play. He does. He has to play a good game. I really believe in him. And I hope he's sleeping through the night. Police say that 200K was stolen from his home. How do you break into Shadr? Okay, we have to end the episode because I'm going to go on a tangent. How do you break into Shadr Sanders? Well, because like you can have cameras and alarms. yeah but i don't even know how shudder sanders like that's just like how does get broken out like y 'all are weird for that like do y 'all like for breaking the shoe right now yes like you the links that i feel like you would have to go through but the like the should do okay here's the thing the should doers obsession is insane because people are obsessed with him whether they love him or they hate him.
48:05It's like any super polarizing figure has like absolute lovers and absolute haters. And it's very rare that people are in between. And that's like obsessive stuff. Even if you hate him, like you can have an obsession of hate. You can like hate watch. And there's a lot of Shador haters. And there's a lot of Dion dislikers. And there's a lot of Dion lovers who are disappointed in what Dion's kids have done. So people are like obsessed with him. we talk about him all the time you know like i i would actually argue that like i'm if you hate dion then you don't know ball but yeah then that's a you problem yeah if you like if you genuinely don't think dion zanders was a great player then you don't know ball because hall of famer but yeah yeah literally but i think that's a really good way to put it you would you love Dion, but might be a little bit disappointed in his kids and that situation.
49:01But again, it's, yeah. Have a good week. Let me leave it at that. Have a great week. Have a great week. Shudder, I believe you. Rooting for you. I believe in you. And if you're, if you're a man over the age, if you're a man, just like, don't slide it. Don't DM him. Hold it back. Okay. DM your ass. That's what I'm saying. Don't do that. Don't do that. but like don't just if you have feelings about Shador just stay off your phone okay get it buy a journal amazon.com 2 to 6 p.m delivery buy a journal journal it down you don't need to go into his messages okay yeah that's weird don't be weird don't be weird literally don't be weird okay okay we gotta go follow up on you at the game the podcast at giovannis cargans i victoria Henderson.
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