59. Case Keenum's Moment, The OG Jets Haters & HGD Hot Takes

28:45Victoria:But honestly, I love a morning game. like I love a morning game and I love a 5 p.m game those are the elite times a 10 a.m and a 5 30 p.m best times for a game because the morning I know that girls over here they like to wake up go to Pilates go for their walk meet a friend for coffee come home sit down make the crockpot okay I know that that's fabulous and I'm talking about all this sounds like dual income no kids girls OK, but that's what I am right now. So, OK. Or you take your kids on the East Coast, you take your kids to their sporting games in the morning and then you don't have to miss your NFL team game because your kids are already done, which sounds actually fabulous if you have kids.

29:32Victoria:But for a non-kid girly who's a morning person, being able to wake up at like 8, 8.30, I make my come-ex, I'm relaxed, I go to the couch, I put on my sweatshirt, my cozy outfit, and I sit on the couch and while I'm waking up I get to watch the Lions play. That is peak, primo, the best football watching experience. Or even like tailgate, like you wake up and like you get a hot coffee and you're like bundled, you know, and you're just like cute and like comfy. It's ideal. I like how you're saying this. I'm like sweating over here. And I'm just getting hot because you're talking about hot coffee and bundled up.

30:20JoJo doesn't have air conditioning in her hotel. I know. I chose the one hotel that doesn't have AC. At least we're in London and it's not 80 degrees here.

30:29Victoria:But still, I feel like also whenever I record this podcast, I get sweaty no matter what.

30:39We just get heated up.

30:41Victoria:We just get heated up. Yeah.

30:46Victoria:Okay. Did you find out what the bedding thing is? Oh, yeah. So it's not UK. I don't know. I don't know why I said UK, but says U.S. sports leagues urge lifetime betting bans for those threatening athletes. So if you are threatening an athlete, you're going to get banned from betting ever again. Which I think is primo. That is a great idea. That's how you stop the hate. Like, it's no brainer, I think. I think that's fabulous. Like, yeah, you can't go after your own mistakes. Yeah. Also, it's like these guys are trying their best. Nobody is trying to tank your bet. Like, they are trying to have a good game.

31:43Victoria:And if they suck, that sucks for them, too. Yeah. but can we talk about the Jags game did you see what Trevor Lawrence did when he didn't you like go down at the one at the one yeah because he wanted um to in to get a touchdown but then everybody's down right well I don't know or did they everybody's saying I think he did but But everybody's saying that he wasn't supposed to and he rigged it. And Fanatic's sportsbook actually is voiding legs where the bets of people that had Trevor Lawrence getting a touchdown. So they voided it because of that play. So it doesn't count against them. It's against the people.

32:40It's crazy. Okay. That's what.

32:46Victoria:So they had under nine minutes remaining. Clear path to the end zone, slid and took a knee to the goal line. Aim to bleed the clock and secure the blowout victory rather than risk an unnecessary stoppage or quick score. And then he admitted that it was overkill. there's still eight minutes left like like the the like one minute is not an like you could just make your next drive long but i do feel like teams are really bad at that like they're really bad at um like when they need to management yeah like when when the games are close they're not that good like it always ends up being like a crazy play you know like 45 yard catch and then like touchdown and then there's like two minutes and 30 seconds and i'm like it's too much time like you can't be slacking it when you're in a close game right especially with like against a good quarterback like yeah that's that happens against uh patrick mahomes i think a lot and and that's too much time to lead for patrick mahomes way too much time yeah speaking of Patrick Mahomes.

34:09Tell me.

34:11Victoria:I don't like watching the Chiefs, okay? It's the same effing story. I cannot stand this. Like, I can't. I cannot look at him. He's all hand wave. I just, oh, it's so cringy. I know, I understand that the Chiefs are an incredible football team. I know that they win championships. I know that Andy Reid is a Hall of Fame coach and deserves money and flowers. And I am not saying anything bad about anyone on the Chiefs, but I don't like to watch them. because I am so bored. It's the same effing story every time. Like, give me some drama. And not the kind where your players go and do crazy shit outside the field.

35:00Victoria:Like, do something in the first two quarters. Like, do anything in the first two quarters. I'm so bored of watching you give teams hope. This is what they do. This is why they get you, because they give teams like the Miami Dolphins hope that they can do it, and then they rip it out from under them.

35:20and as a Malik Willis fan, I am offended. Man, that was not a good game, huh?

35:30Victoria:Okay, but the thing is, I feel like just like the Bills Chargers, like the score does not tell the whole story because they had, I think it was the same score, because the Dolphins were 24-10, okay, And then the Bills' Chargers was 24-16. So, like, a similar score. But the thing is, the Chiefs didn't score most of those points. Like, they were in the range of the Dolphins for the majority of the game. Yeah. And they just kind of pulled out, pulled away. Yeah. Yeah. And I think like I. Until the fourth quarter, I feel like the Dolphins played a great game, like a really like a great game. They held the Chiefs, their defense, like did their jobs.

36:24Victoria:And I think maybe they just got exhausted. and they weren't prepared for a potentially close situation that they kind of like put it all out on the field in the first three and then couldn't hold it when the Chiefs intensity went up. And then they either maintained or dropped their intensity in the end of that game, which led to the Chiefs winning, which is what the Chiefs do all the time. The Chiefs are always on, they're always on a 45 degree angle. They never start at their highest intensity. They're like, yeah. They ramp up to it. Yeah. So, yeah. But I think the Dolphins are not washed. I don't think the Dolphins are screwed.

37:10Victoria:I think the Dolphins should have a lot of confidence because of the way that they played the first three quarters. Like, were they the best team in the NFL? Absolutely not. But are they going to have a 0-17 season? Like, no. Well, they lost a chance. they did lose a-chan so that's i i wonder if that'll be like bad for morale or if they will like be like okay we gotta go win this for him because he was kind of the star he of that team they were gonna run him to the ground yeah this is like another thing to get on my training training thing though his injury was non-contact yeah was it acl acl yeah and so he's like out for the season but i think i don't think this one's like as dramatic as other injuries though because everything in that building is new like they are so green like their plan is not cemented because like one player is not a plan you need it like as much as he's a huge part of the plan like one player is not the entire plan so yeah I mean I think that they're just gonna feel like the way that they probably that I would recommend in my very professional football but I feel like I feel like everything at the Dolphins is an opportunity whether it's an opportunity to like score points or step up to the plate or show something that can get you traded to a team that is winning.

38:45Victoria:Like, everything that happens at the Miami Dolphins right now is, like, a massive opportunity. And so I think that they'll just take another young running back and be like, you can either step up or we can lose. And, like, you get to decide. Because, like, their defense did a pretty good job for the majority of the day. And if they can repeat that week over week, then, like, they're not going to need to score an absurd number of points. They just need to learn how to hold it until the end. but like to keep the Chiefs to 14 points for the first I think it was like I think it was three quarters yeah they just they don't have a lot of star power but I think that could also be a good thing that they're all very young and just you know grind it out and try to win something yeah because their defense does look good um and then I was just looking at the depth chart there's a guy named chop first name chop that's never that would never be a girl's name chop chop not even chip it's chop isn't there like a thing though we're like chop robinson um uh ncaa players are like make up their own names like they don't put their names on their jersey they like make up other names oh really no i think that's a thing i don't know that's that's new it's like uh your acting name your your stage name your stage yeah okay so to circle back yeah so the chiefs were seven in the first quarter seven in the second quarter at halftime the score was 14-7 the dolphins scored in the first quarter zero in the second Then you get to the third quarter, Chiefs don't score at all.

40:38Victoria:So there's zero points. Dolphins go three points, so then it's 14 to 10. And then in the fourth quarter, Chiefs go 10 points. So it's like the Dolphins' defense had an excellent day up until the fourth quarter. And I think even if it was 20, well, no, I feel like you got to be in the same decade, the same 10. How do you say that? I don't know. The same 10. Like if you're in the teens, you need to be in like the 10s, the teens, the 20s for it to look like a closer game. But I feel like this, I feel like the Dolphins did their job and we should give them credit for it. Yeah, I agree. We'll see what happens the rest of the season with them.

41:24But I think they'll win a couple. Yeah, I think they'll win a couple. In defense alone.

41:32Victoria:I want to talk about the New York Jets.

41:43Victoria:Why don't you want to talk about the New York Jets? Because I'm a Bills fan. We don't like the Jets. Okay. Fair. That's fine. I'll talk about that. Go for it. So I saw someone, actually one of my friends, she posted like, I'm so tired of everyone hating the Jets. And I was like, wait, but Jets fans are the OG Jets haters. like Jets fans Jets fans are the most dedicated haters on the planet like the Jets lose and they go of course we fucking lost and it's like so true though like no one hates the Jets no one no other teams like even you who's a Bills fan like nobody hates the Jets they just are irrelevant I yeah I think we're not threatened by them anymore yeah so I just thought that was so funny because I was like I was like you're the OG haters like you are the most dedicated and they've been through pain I don't know what it's like to be I know what it's like to be a fan for life of a team that's never gone all the way like right the Padres have never won the World Series while I've been a fan the Lions have never won the Super Bowl they haven't been to a Super Bowl so like I get it and like I do think that the Jets Jets fans endure a special kind of pain like I don't know what they put in their water to keep them bought in because the Dolphins suck and barely anyone watches the Dolphins like it's hard to find people who like the Dolphins at all but like not with the Jets you want a Jets fan I'll find you I I got a I got a laundry list of Jets fans but the Jets fans are the original Jets haters.

43:39Victoria:It was just so funny when people were like, everyone hates on the Jets. I'm like, no. It's you. It's you guys. It's just you. Yes. But did you, okay, so I assume you watched highlights from that game maybe? Yeah. Did you see Jameer Gibbs do Aaron Glenn's celebration?

43:57Yeah.

43:59Victoria:I thought that was so funny. I don't, I remember the Lions booed the Lions fans booed last year when the Lions played the Bears but I don't think they booed Aaron Glenn because Ben Johnson oh yeah I remember Amon Ross said on his podcast like yeah we're gonna boo him when he comes in I was like oh damn oh damn yeah also Amon Ross St. Brown's recently engaged if you didn't know to Brooklyn oh he is oh congrats yeah i know cute they got engaged like i don't know a month ago or something before season started but we had brooklyn on the podcast very very early she's like one of our top list like girls is in the episode like now still and i'm like that was like our second interview i've never been more nervous than for that interview you must you must have been like on cloud nine though like lion's wag like that's sick and she's like very beloved like yes yeah yeah so she's dope she's really cool she's yeah she's super cool and i like her she has like that awesome mix of like your opinion doesn't matter to me and being super nice like she's the the amount of like like such a good combo of unbothered and kind.

45:34Victoria:And I feel like you don't get that often. Like you either get people who are like kind of standoffish and unbothered and people who are like really nice and almost like so open. And she just like does it really well. Yeah. Yeah. She was, she was super down to earth and like it was, they had a cute story. Such a cute story. Yeah. Yeah. From high school. and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember listening to that it was it was really good interview yeah so cute okay so anyway the jets 31 to 24 a seven point game there was 10 games 10 out of 16 games this weekend that were decided by one score and this was one of them 31 to 24 and i believe it was in the fourth quarter they were tied.

46:26Insane. Insane. Were you nervous? Were you nervous watching or did you, you, you loved both teams. So who are you more rooting for?

46:36Victoria:So yeah, it's kind of like that feeling. I didn't want to watch the game to be honest. I didn't want to watch it because that's insane. I remember when I said this on the pod last year, some, one of the girls DM me and she was like, she was like, Victoria, You have to, you're supposed to be like, she was like, I think she said, I can't relate to you feeling bad for teams when they lose. But I just feel bad for them. I'm like, you were so hard and you lost and losing sucks. And so I didn't, I didn't want to see Aaron Glenn lose because what I really don't want to have, I want the Lions to win the Super Bowl.

47:13Victoria:I wanted the Lions to win. But I don't want Aaron Glenn to have a bad career. I want Aaron Glenn to win. And it's not because he does fancy celebrations. I just think that like his. He's like a coach that I feel safe with running important organizations. and so I think that like people I mean we don't know him but I feel like people like him and with that demeanor make such a positive impact on the sport and therefore on fans and on young kids and things like that that like I want him to win and I want him to have a great long career in the NFL and if the Jets lose lose lose Aaron Glenn's chances of becoming a head coach somewhere else drastically decline.

48:05Victoria:And so I want Aaron Glenn to win. I don't need him to win a Super Bowl over the Lions, but, and I don't want them to win a regular season game over the Lions, but I don't want Aaron Glenn to go down with the Jets. Yeah. I think that's a great point. And so, but I also like love the Jets story right now is probably one of the best storylines in the NFL.

48:30Victoria:How so? team has never won second year head coach washed quarterback geno smith that nobody believes in and then now it's turning to like all of this talent that's been unused for so long you know it's like it's like um i don't even know i'm like thinking of a really cheesy metaphor but like winter to like spring when like all the flowers are finally blooming you know so loser-y but like what's what's like a what's what isn't there like flowers that like they're dormant for like 30 years or something i feel like it's like venus flytrap you're yeah i am i'm comparing them to little daisies that are finally blooming whatever Yo, you're wild today.

49:24Petunias. Jets are petunias. Love it. Yeah.

49:31Victoria:Buried petunia scenes can remain viable and dormant in a garden soil for many years, germinating suddenly when construction or soil disturbance brings them closer to the light. Okay. They're just, you know what? They're late bloomers. And so was I. That's it. That's it. Okay, I can get on with that. Me and the Jets are the same. We're just the late bloomers. Late bloomers. We'll see how it goes this season. But I think Garrett Wilson looks good, finally. He needs someone. Well, isn't he hurt now? Is he hurt? Yeah, I think he got hurt, but I don't think it's like an out-out thing. I don't think he's out for his season yet.

50:18Victoria:They have some solid pieces. Yeah, and their defense crushes. Like the Lions over the last few years put up, they have super high scoring games, which I saw a headline, and I'm so tired of these headlines. Like, get new stories. Like, pick a new story. Somebody was like, is Jared Goff finally a viable QB1 in fantasy? Finally? Finally? Where have you been, sir? Where have you been? It's one of the top scoring offenses in points per game. What do you mean, finally? Like, are you done? I'm sorry, do you do math? Do you do math? Because if you're consistently scoring over 24 points a game, that's going to give your quarterback a lot of fantasy points.

51:12Right.

51:14Victoria:Anyway. Anyway. Yeah, so I think the Jets defense is also really good, which makes sense because Aaron Glenn is an extremely great defensive coach. Yeah, and just one last point on that is that I was afraid that Gibbs would be stopped this week. And I almost made a post, glad I didn't, to say, you know, beware, you know, Gibbs might not score this week. And then he scored three times. Of course he did. I knew that was going to happen. I was like, as soon as I think one way, the exact opposite happens. So I'm glad I didn't bet on that. But good for Gibbs. Yeah, you had like 41 fantasy points. Insane.

52:03Victoria:I've been looking really deep into like if a girl has X player on their roster, what percentage of teams won in our league. Yeah. Which I think is really crazy. Like, it was like something 79 % of girls who started Josh Allen in fantasy last week won. And then Jameer Gibbs got 41.4 points. 79.7 % of girls who had Jameer Gibbs won their matchup. 228 of 286 girls. Wow. Yeah. And the single girl that started Geno Smith won. Yeah. Wow. What a G. And now, I'm curious, are people going to start Case Keenum now? It wouldn't be a bad idea. Who are they playing this week? They're playing the Jets. Oh my god.

53:03That'll be a fun game. How about that Falcons-Packers game? What happened to the Packers? penix is back uh absolutely crushed it drake london went off bijan which we learned this week that's how you say his name bijan uh bijan bijan he's he that's i like it yeah i like it's not dijon it's bijan bijan bijan um but yeah they absolutely crushed it and they're they're back. The Falcons are back. It was a little scary there for those first two weeks. They're back. And I think... They look great. Especially against the Packers. The Packers fanbase is

53:55Victoria:losing faith in the Packers. Yeah. Like, the Packers... I... Do you think it's a fluke? The fluke being the Packers losing. Packers sucking. I don't know. They don't look good. I don't think Love is doing anything special this year. He's not really doing anything. Yeah, exactly.

54:27Yeah. Yeah.

54:31Victoria:Because I think that the Falcons looked really good and the Packers looked really bad. And the Packers ended last season really rough and started this season really rough. Are they 1-2 or 2-1 or are they 0-3? I think they're 1-2.

54:58Yeah, 1-2. They lost to the Vikings the first week. they won against the jets barely and then they lost against and they lost against the falcons

55:15yeah i don't know it's the falcons are back which i kind of like because i the falcons have never

55:25Victoria:really been great during like my deep fandom so i'm kind of excited to like just it's like a new a new team to like kind of follow along with and i love bajan yeah i like and it feels so funny to like say that like to like change i feel bad that we've been saying it wrong this whole time right like i think it's really important to like pronounce people's names correctly like really makes them feel like seen and comfortable and i think that if you're not doing that it's like a very middle-aged white man thing to like say someone's name wrong and feel like it's fine because they don't get it but like right as like a woman who cares about people it's really important that we say people's names right but i did recently find out that marriott is marriott what yeah so the owner somebody in the owner's family said that it's Marriott.

56:20Victoria:And but now, OK, now I talked about this on my Instagram, like I guess this was kind of a while ago, but I can't go to my family and say my family's a Marriott family. We always stay. We like love Marriott. It's fantastic. We go there all the time. It's like our the our hotel chain and

56:45Victoria:i can't just tell my family are we gonna stay at the marriott they're gonna be like what the fuck are you talking about so i can only say they're gonna make fun of you to the outside world but i can't say it to my my family because i'll be like why are you saying it like that yeah i think it's different because marriott is not a human oh yeah but it's somebody it probably is once you put it out in the world you have to be okay with people deciding what it is i think i think yeah i think it's i think it'll be okay if you call it whatever you want marriott i call it marriott is that how you yeah anyway bajon And Bajon, I feel like, was a player that didn't get the joy of the quality of his play for a very long time because the Falcons weren't very good.

57:46Victoria:And so the Falcons being good means that Bajon gets so much more elation because he is one of the best running backs. Like, I think he and Jameer Gibbs are very close in... Top two. Yeah. For sure. For sure. So I feel like it's fun if the Falcons start winning. Also, Michael Penix Jr. I don't know. I feel like he's kind of had a rough go. This is a sweet guy. He's like a cutie boy to me. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's... I don't know. He's still young. And I think he's not even peaking yet. No. And he could do big things, especially with that roster, with Drake London and Bajan. Like, they could absolutely crush.

58:38Yeah.

58:39Victoria:And I'm pretty sure Bajan put up on his Instagram, like, his stats. His stats and Drake London stats. It was like, Drake London, Drake London. They were like very similar stats, which I thought was really, really cute that like they have support for each other in that in that capacity. Yeah. OK. I have a couple of things that I I need to talk about before we go. Matt Stafford threw his 33rd pick six. Oh, my gosh. I actually think I would cry. Like, 33 pick, not even picks, pick sixes. And I know he's older, but like, my lord. That's too many. Wow. That game was fabulous. That game was so fabulous.

59:35I loved watching it. Okay.

59:40Victoria:I think that's bonus. Oh, Bonix. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was slaying it, man. Bo Nix was doing an incredible job. It was such a different game than the first week. Yes. No, that's so true. That's so true. Yeah. Do I ask the girls for their hot takes? So maybe we do the hot take and we give like a five-second response, like a one-sentence reply. Okay. Purdy is better than Mahomes. Wolf. That's hot. That's a hot take. That's a hot take. Packers would be 3-0 if they had an O-line. I don't think... No. Disagree. I don't think it's the O-line. I think there's more to that. I appreciate the Packers' love, but I disagree.

1:00:38Victoria:This is the best one. May catfished me in the draft. What?

1:00:49facts I love that one

1:00:56Victoria:another Drake May one Drake May was a one hit wonder

1:01:02yes I can get behind that one

1:01:05Victoria:yeah I feel like absolutely I think he's gonna I think that maybe this season maybe at the end of next season we could call him a one hit wonder but I think he'll come back you think so I think he'll be a middle I think it'll be a middle of the road. So maybe he was a one-hit wonder, actually. Yeah. I don't know. That's tough because the Patriots are just a whole mess. Yeah. The Falcons are back. Absolutely. Yes. We agree, obviously. Jalen Hurts is lucky he's cute. 100. 100%. Agreed. the Raiders winning was not on everyone's bingo card. Yeah, absolutely. Agree. Crickle chains. Um, Oh, there's a couple of Cowboys ones.

1:01:59Victoria:The Cowboys are still wedding the NFC East. And then it says, argue with a wall. Argue with a wall.

1:02:11Victoria:That's great. But I don't know if she's telling us to argue with the wall or if she's arguing with the wall. But it's so funny. I don't think... I'm just picturing her talking to a wall and be like... Like, typing it. You know? Your cowboys are going. They're going.

1:02:32Victoria:Dallas is better than this record, and I refuse to elaborate. I don't know what is wrong with them. They just can't pull it out. Like, they're good on paper. On paper. I actually agree with this. Like, I think that they have so much more potential, and they showed us last year their ability to do a great job. They just need their offense and defense to be on the same page because it looks like they're playing two different games, I feel like. Yeah. Yeah. The Broncos need to get their head in the game before Q4. Yeah. Agreed. They're, like, following in the Chiefs' footsteps, like, do nothing until the fourth quarter.

1:03:14Victoria:Right, right. this one's hot aaron rogers might have some old man magic left no absolutely not that guy's done i hate him sorry i think we'll see some great plays come out of him but i don't know if it will be enough magic to like actually be seen in the entire game his attitude is the worst part of him he hates who he plays with if you miss a catch from him he just hates he hates you yeah yeah like i i would never survive like i would never survive in that environment i would have to quit i would have to be i'd be like give me a trade because i get anxiety if people are like that exactly so yeah um okay last two that we'll share the bears are a good team with or without Caleb in parentheses, go birds, crying face, like smile.

1:04:13Victoria:I think I think they're a good team. But we have to see if Case can keep it up. I think Caleb makes them better. I think they're a good team. And the reason why Case was able to perform the way he was is because every single other person did their job very well. Yep. I agree. And then Case Keenum will keep playing until Caleb is cleared. And I think he better. He better. Yeah, don't put Tyson. Yeah. Anyway, come back. I'm going to try and post that each Tuesday so that we can do hot takes on the pod because they're so, the girls are so funny. That's one thing I didn't anticipate when, like, growing the social club this year.

1:04:51Victoria:I did not anticipate how hilarious the girls are. Yo, the girls are, they're cooking. They're cooking in the chat. So funny. Yeah, if you want to join the chat, her-gamedays.com. You can do either a single payment for like the football season or you can just get the yearly membership where we talk about like some other sports as well, which is super fun. So it's so the girls are so funny. So I can't recommend it enough. Any closing thoughts? Go Bills. Go Bills. Go Lions. Go Lions. Go Padres. I just became a New York Liberty fan. New York Liberty. Oh, yes. Women's WNBA team out of New York. won.

1:05:34Victoria:It was the first WANBA team 8 seed to beat the 1 seed and take out the 1 seed in WNBA history, which is incredible. Sweat. Sweat. Sweat. Yeah. So that was fabulous. So go Liberty and follow JoJo on Instagram hergamedays underscore JoJo I'm at hergamedays hergamedays.substack.com that's super fun and yeah join the chat honestly it's like the best$7.99 you'll spend every single month it's like way better than netflix it's so much joy in there so i can't recommend and and the girls are talking every day every day it's not just game days it's every day and yeah they put us on like a flexible hair clip this week as well yeah talked about books we were reading talked about the game it's just it's the best place on my phone hands down it's it's great yeah good time okay thanks for listening to another episode love you bye cheerio