6. Bills are Hot, Titans are Not: First 4 Weeks in the AFC & Spooky NFL Stories

2 Oct 2025 · 1 h 8 min

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Episode Summary

6. Bills are Hot, Titans are Not: First 4 Weeks in the AFC & Spooky NFL Stories

Hosts: Victoria Henderson, Giovanna Scroggins Release Date: October 2023 Episode Highlights:

  • Overview of the AFC's first four weeks.
  • Spotlight on standout teams and players.
  • Discussion of injury impacts and cultural shifts within teams.
  • "Spooky" moments in the NFL so far.

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Key Discussions

AFC Overview

  • Buffalo Bills:
  • 4-0 record; praised for their balance and health.
  • Key players include:
  • Josh Allen - Performing exceptionally well.
  • James Cook - Impressive rushing stats (401 yards, 5 touchdowns).
  • Keon Coleman and Dalton Kincaid contributing significantly in the receiving game.
  • The team appears grounded and humble in their approach.
  • New York Jets:
  • 0-4 record; struggling, especially with injuries.
  • Justin Fields' mobility is seen as a glimmer of hope.
  • Discussion about the importance of backup quarterbacks in the league.
  • Pittsburgh Steelers:
  • 3-1 record; defense-driven identity.
  • Key players include TJ Watt and Jalen Warren.
  • Cleveland Browns:
  • Transitioning quarterbacks from Joe Flacco to rookie Dylan Gabriel.
  • Significant defeats early in the season impacting team morale.

Cultural Shifts in Teams

  • Indianapolis Colts:
  • Cultural reset following leadership changes.
  • Ownership under Carly Irsay positively impacting team dynamics.
  • Tennessee Titans:
  • Mention of their rookie quarterback and current struggles.
  • Longest losing streak since moving to Tennessee.

Injury Impacts

  • Tyreek Hill's Injury:
  • Discussion around player safety and the impact of turf-related injuries.
  • Tyreek's reaction to his injury raises questions about his mental state.
  • Lamar Jackson:
  • Hamstring injury concerns and implications for the Ravens.

Spooky NFL Moments

  1. Bengals Offense's Decline:
  2. Issues surrounding Joe Burrow's injury and offense output.
  1. MetLife Stadium Turf Concerns:
  2. Players voicing discomfort and the potential for more injuries.
  1. Malik Neighbors' ACL Injury:
  2. Impact on the Giants' momentum and future prospects.
  1. AJ Brown's Cryptic Tweet:
  2. Concerns regarding his performance and targets in the Eagles' offense.
  1. Big Name Injuries:
  2. Tyreek Hill's injury compared to other notable player impairments.

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Key Takeaways

  • The Bills are currently the strongest team in the AFC, showing exceptional performance and balance.
  • The Jets face challenges but have potential with quarterback Justin Fields.
  • The Colts are experiencing a positive cultural shift under new ownership.
  • Injuries continue to plague many teams, with discussions surrounding player welfare and organizational responsibility.
  • The "spooky" stories highlight the unpredictable nature of the NFL, as well as ongoing player safety concerns.

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0:22I'm Victoria. I'm Giovanna. The game's on. Welcome back to another episode of your favorite podcast by the girls for everyone the game happy october wait i just like my mom's birthday is in is in october my birthday is in october oh my gosh when's your birthday october 20th when's your mom's birthday the 23rd whoa oh she's a scorpio yeah you know what i found out that's where we get a lot are you a scorpio too no i'm a libra oh okay oh that's so that's an interesting cut off. But yes, happy October, guys. You know what I found out today, though? What? Josh Allen is a Gemini. Wait, what like what range is that?

1:06It's June. But OK, I love a Gemini girl. Gemini girls obsessed. Gemini men have been the worst burns of my life. Like the men who have led me on the most or like pulled fast ones harder than any other man have been Gemini men. And I've had three times over so after three i was like not for me thank you no thank you not for me that's interesting it was a pattern like you're valid it was a pattern yeah we had we had to change it up yeah and it was it was always guys it was never guys that i was in like a serious relationship with because i could never it just like never got there with them but they would always like bait and switch me or something crazy so josh allen is a gemini which i don't know i think it's good to be like gemini's are like confident and usually like outspoken i feel like that's great for like a quarterback and very charismatic.

1:55Yeah. But I thought that was so interesting and I didn't know that. That is interesting. Yeah. Anyway, happy October. We're going to do some spooky season for our top five today. So top five spooky moments going on in the first month of the NFL. We're also going to recap the AFC's first four weeks. And then next weekend, we will do the NFC's first five weeks. What were we expecting from the teams? What did we end up seeing? Honorable mentions. If you haven't been watching the NFL and you just tuned in, this episode is going to be great to catch you up on what you need to know. So if you're not on our Substack yet, go ahead and subscribe to our Substack, the game, the podcast.substack.com.

2:41We are going to be putting out some more articles than we were previously putting out. So some reading pleasure for you. We also have our chat in there. We live chat every single game and some days college football Saturdays. So if you're not on that yet, make sure to go ahead and subscribe over there. We also have our living in a fantasy leaderboard. It is the top 10 points for each week. So it's total points, not win loss streak. So total points, we have the top 10 up there now. So you can check back every single week. It'll update on Tuesday mornings for that week. So go Go ahead, check that out.

3:15Shout out to Jojo, who created that leaderboard for us. We love you. And it's been so fun getting to know you and having you help us out. If you're not following the show, make sure you hit follow. And let's get into it. So, yes. One note on the sub stack, though. Shout out to all the girls in the chat. If you're not in the chat, you got to get into it. Because I'm talking, we talk fantasy. We talk about our lives. We talk about the scores, players, the tea, the drama. So, like, make sure you get in our sub stack. the chat is awesome. Yeah, it's awesome. We were talking about, we were talking about a lot of girls like kids and them making cute little bows for their daughter's cheer teams.

3:52And one of the girls does these amazing graphic tees that she was sending us. So it's just super good. It's a really good group of girls and a great community. And it's so fun to get to chat with everyone and just like have built-in friends on game day Sunday. So literally. Okay. Speaking of the girls, the girls love the bills. We love the bills. So let's start out with AFC East top and bottom teams. We're going to recap the top and bottom teams and everything you need to know. Plus some teams in the middle that need to be mentioned from the first four weeks. So top team in the AFC East is the Bills and the girls love Josh Allen, the Stallion, the Gemini.

4:36The Bills are doing their job. They are 4-0. So them and the Eagles are the only two 4-0 teams in the first four weeks of the season. Their fourth game was against the Saints. They won 31-19. That game was not as much of a kind of blowout easy run as people were expecting. However, they did pull out the win. So Bill's quarterback, Josh Allen, he's married to Haley Steinfeld, notably known for her music. I Love Myself is one of her top songs. If you haven't checked her out, she's amazing. So Josh Allen is doing his job. He is leading with confidence. There's really no notes on Josh Allen's performance.

5:18He's doing what he needs to do. He rushes when he needs to rush. He moves the ball when he needs to move the ball. He's converting the teams looking good. If I'm back about Haley, though, she's actually in Michael B. Jordan's new, well, not so new now, but she's like a lead role in Michael B. Jordan's movie Sinners and like kind of plays like a love interest for Michael B. Jordan. and I actually watched it for the first I watched half of it for the first time last night so seeing her and like not talking about her it was weird but she's actually a very she talks in like a southern accent the whole movie and it's like adorable yeah she kills it kills it Josh Allen is a lucky man however I would not want to watch that movie because she turns into a vampire and it gets kind of crazy no spoilers but the bills on the NFL side of things what we're gonna talk about the bills.

6:11Yeah. For, you know, off to a great start coming into the season already really high on the bills. So I'm hoping they make a deep playoff push. I do expect him to be one of the teams in the Superbowl this year. So we shall see. We shall see. Yeah. They came in with really high expectations. I think fans had high expectations. The team had high expectations. I think they're playing humbly. If you watch their celebrations and what happens when they miss something or if there's a pick or anything like that, the way that they're responding to it seems very humble. So it seems like the team is pretty grounded.

6:46They've also had no major injuries this season, which a lot of the other teams in the league have been just absolutely plagued by injuries or had major injuries. So the Bills not having any major injuries at this point, knock on wood, knock on your head. They are looking good. A couple of notable players just to be looking out for, James Cook. He's a running back, 401 yards so far in rushing. A great season. He's off, like he's cooking. James Cook is quite literally cooking. Yes, 490 total all-purpose yards for the season, five rushing touchdowns, just absolute animal. You know, we can attribute a lot of the Bills' success to his efforts here this season.

7:28Also, So wide receiver Keon Coleman, 203 receiving yards, tight end Dalton Kincaid, three receiving touchdowns so far. I feel like tight ends have been a little bit sleepier this season. Giovanni, you can tell me if you think differently, but I feel like we're seeing a lot of wide receivers and a lot of tight ends are they're doing their jobs, but they're a little bit on the quieter end. So I liked seeing this stat and watching him do his job. Yeah, I mean, Dalton Kincaid is one of the best tight ends in the league because he just has size and like he's going to go up and make a play. but I don't know.

7:59Tight ends are interesting. You have Tyler Warren who's out there with the Colts. Brock Bowers who's been had a quiet season so far but he's over in Vegas with the Raiders. And then you have Dalton Schultz who's been with the Cowboys now's on the Texans. Jake Ferguson for the Cowboys. A lot of these Tucker Craft, Green Bay Packers he's had great games so far. A lot of these tight ends in the league are making splashes and I think that position specifically is kind of on like an uptick trend where like we're seeing them being able to make plays, but also blocking, making blocks, making important, like just decisions.

8:35So I like the tight end position. One of my favorite positions on the field, if I must say. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I love it. I think, I think you're right when you, when you list them all off, they are making plays. I just feel like it's a little sleepier than maybe years past that I've seen in the first couple of weeks of like tight end, touchdown, tight end, touchdown, tight end, touchdown. I feel like I'm not seeing as much of that, but that could also just be opinion or the plays that I'm specifically clocking. Yeah. Well, speaking of touchdowns, Darren Waller tied in from Miami. Mind you, Darren Waller just came out of retirement.

9:04This is his first season back in the NFL from coming out of retirement, played for the Miami Dolphins. He had two touchdowns and Monday night football in this past week. So he's been kind of sad too. Yep. Yep. Okay. Okay. I love it. Matt Prater, notable mention he is the 40 year old kicker for the bills. We did an episode where we talked about the daddies delivering kind of the oldest guys that we're watching out for in the league. But Matt Prater looks as young as ever. I he's he's doing a really, really great job. 37 points kicking in the first four games, nearly 10 points a game. I mean, I think that their decision to, you know, roll with him and put their faith in him is definitely working out.

9:49Rookie Cole Bishop, he is a safety, critical interception, week four, stop of scoring drive on the Saints. I mean, that score ended up 31-19, so it wasn't so far out of the realm of possibility that Saints could have made it happen. But Cole Bishop making a critical interception, really exciting for young rookie safety. And then Greg Russo in Russo, defensive end, stopped a two-point conversion in that game as well. So Bills are doing their job. I expect to see them continue this. I'm hoping and praying that they stay healthy. I'm loving how grounded that they are appearing in press conferences on the field with good plays and bad plays.

10:31And I think we're just continually excited to watch them grow and can play well. Yeah. On the bottom, this one, I'm glad we're starting with this one because I can get out of the way because I feel sad. The Jets 0-4 record. Yeah. It's a bummer. Which, okay, again, this 0-4 record, like, two out of these four games were played with a Jets backup quarterback. Mm-hmm. And, like, yes, I think we're slowly seeing, especially this season with the amount of injuries, especially at the quarterback position, I think we're seeing how valuable QB2 is on rosters. And I think next year and years to come, we're going to see teams maybe paying a little bit more attention to the backup quarterback and not having just a nobody, a scrub behind QB1.

11:23But point being is you had a backup quarterback play two of those four games. Justin Fields, I believe, is worth having hope in this Jets franchise. Yes, you're 0-4, but if y 'all can turn it around, if Justin Fields stays healthy, this Jets team isn't that bad. And not to mention you have Garrett Wilson, who is a phenomenal wide receiver on the Jets team. So I have hope for them. I'm not down on them quite yet. Yeah, so on the Justin Fields note, this was a huge storyline going in for the Jets. Justin Fields was previously at the Browns for three years and signed on with the Jets this year. Notably, the Jets also have new head coach Aaron Glenn.

12:04So I think people were excited to watch Aaron Glenn and Justin Fields, both really, really qualified. Aaron Glenn as a coach, Justin Fields as a quarterback. So I think everyone was very excited to kind of watch them and see how they could come together. From my perspective, Jets fans were cautiously optimistic. I don't think that they were overhyped, maybe as like Bengals fans were so, so hyped, but I think everyone was excited to see what happened. Justin Fields went out with a concussion. So went out with a concussion, missed two games, came back. In week four, he had a 43-yard rushing touchdown.

12:41And the craziest part about this is that it was on fourth down. Yeah, it was a busted play. Totally, like, not only was it fourth down, but it was a busted play. Like, there was absolutely nowhere Justin Fields could have thrown the football. But man decided to use his legs, takes off, and is in the end zone. It was beautiful. Beautiful. I think the growth of players, quarterbacks using their legs is so fascinating to me because 20 years ago, you're not seeing quarterbacks scrambling, sliding like they're in the freaking MLB. And now it's a cornerstone for a lot of franchises. They want a quarterback who can kind of do it all, which is interesting.

13:21And then the conversation around quarterbacks who don't necessarily scramble or slide as often sometimes get like a negative tick to some analysts, to some viewers of the NFL as negative if they aren't kind of scrambling around. So I think that this showed some diversity from Justin Fields, which I think players and coaches and fans are really excited about about seeing. Yeah. And side note about Fields, he actually was drafted by the Bears, the Chicago Bears. then he went to the Steelers for a year and now he's with the Jets what's ironic about that is Justin Fields started for the well Justin Fields was competing for a spot with Russell Wilson on the Steelers last season Russell Wilson is now QB2 on the Giants just got benched for Ricky Jackson who we'll maybe mention later but Justin Fields comes over to the Jets Aaron Rodgers who was QB1 for the Jets last year is now QB1 for the Steelers.

14:21So they did a little swap. Did a little swap. Yeah, that's I almost forgot about that storyline that they switched places, which. Yeah, I mean, the Jets last year was obviously a mess. And hopefully I think our prediction and we talked about this a little bit previously, but our prediction is that the Jets are not going to have a two and 14 or 15 season. The Jets are going to definitely get some wins in there. They have a team that's so capable. Justin Fields is back. If he can stay back, I do trust Aaron Glenn. I think he's an incredible coach. If you didn't see it, you got to watch Aaron Glenn's dance response from last week, week three.

15:04It is so funny. It's all over Instagram. Like look up any, just look up Jets or Aaron Glenn and you will see the dance. People have been putting it in different songs. It's awesome. So I just like really love, love seeing that. And then players to note, defensive linemen. Oh my gosh, I hope I don't botch this name. Quinine Williams. Keanine Williams. Defensive linemen make its place. Sorry, we'll do you better next time. Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver, constantly produces thousand plus yard seasons, primary pass catcher. Justin Fields is looking out for Sauce Gardner. He was a big point of interest coming into the season.

15:48And then Brees Hall running back with a ton of power. So I think if they can lock in, I'm anticipating week five being interesting. And then they play the Cowboys. They play my boys. I feel like the Cowboys can really go either way. Right now, the Cowboys can either really be good or really be rough. Jets have home field advantage, though. And I feel like that says a lot. Especially coming off game week four. So, I don't know. We'll see. Yeah, I think week six, we can kind of expect the Jets to start going in that upward ticking direction, getting a little bit more power, getting a little bit more accurate, which I'm excited to watch.

16:31Okay, so that is your AFC East. Let's go AFC North. Steelers on top, Browns on the bottom. So Steelers are 3-1. Their only loss is to the Seahawks. The Seahawks, I did not see the Seahawks coming this season. I'm not going to lie. But the Steelers only losses to the Seahawks. Top stories. Aaron Rodgers, as we just said, was at the Jets, tore his Achilles tendon, came back this year for the Steelers. The Steelers have a really highly paid defense, including TJ Watt, who had his record breaking contract that made him the top paid defensive player. Now Michael Parsons has broken that record on the Packers, but that deal was still a very big deal.

17:22TJ Watt, very well known, very well loved and very well paid. But three sacks and one interception this season. And DK Metcalf, receiver, he's doing his job. 15 receptions, 261 yards and three touchdowns so far. Jalen Warren running back, doing his job. Kenneth Gainwell coming in hot. He had 99 yards versus the Vikings in Dublin. So Steelers went to Dublin last week, week four, played the Vikings, won against the Vikings. So Kenneth Gainwell is doing his job. And Jalen Ramsey has an interception in the first four games. So Steelers are looking good. I'm loving the Aaron Rodgers storyline. I'm liking watching him play.

18:04I, okay. So I have stated before, but I always feel a little embarrassed because of the show that like, I'm a newer fan. Yeah. So I was thinking about Aaron Rodgers, daddy Rogers. And I was like, okay. So I was looking at like Jackson Dart and I was looking at young rookie quarterbacks and like young rookie players. And it's just like, you know, they're like young, but they're like the hot new commodity on the team. And so I'm like, was Aaron Rodgers hot? Because right now, like, okay, so I'm 30 and I've dated men in their forties. I don't know that I would like date Aaron Rodgers. I don't know if I saw him in a bar, if I'd be like, that's my guy.

18:46And like, you guys can tell me if I'm totally wrong. But anyway, I decided to go with him. I'm laying in bed. I can't fall asleep. And so I Google Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers was like super hot back in the day. You know, it's even crazier. Aaron Rodgers has a brother, Jordan Rodgers, who is on TV, talks about football. I actually watched him this morning on Good Morning Football. He is married to, Jordan Rodgers is married to Jojo Fletcher, who was on The Bachelorette. And that is how Jojo met Jordan Rodgers. So she married into the Rogers family. They also have another brother. I don't really know who he is.

19:24He's kind of important, but I actually was literally watching Jordan Rogers on TV today. So I was like, that's just crazy when you think about it. I will say, though, it's interesting that the Steelers only lost was to the Seahawks because DK Metcalf, wide receiver one on the Steelers. Guess what team he was on last season? The Seahawks. We've been a lot of flip-flopping switcheroo here back and forth. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at this point, it's just like a pool of like, you're probably going to play on eight teams by the time you retire. And yeah, it's just how it goes. Yeah. It's interesting. We were talking to Brooklyn.

20:03If you haven't listened to the Brooklyn Adams interview, Amon Ross St. Brown's long-term girlfriend, their high school sweethearts. And we were just talking to her about her experience being a longer contract girl, because she's signed on for years and years and years at a time. But the reality for many players, like we interviewed Allie Ridgway, who her husband is a defensive and defensive tackle for the Saints. And they've moved around. She's had five states in five years from college through the NFL. So being able to be in that long-term position and kind of on the Lions from Brooklyn, the way that they kind of like bring up younger girls and like welcome that community is really interesting.

20:43back to the Jordan Rogers thing for a second though. Jordan Rogers was also an NFL quarterback. So Jordan Rogers played for the Jags, the bucks and the dolphins all in Florida. So he's from Chico, California, but he played all in Florida, which is crazy. Like what, I don't know what deal he signed with them. Like give me somewhere like hot and sweaty to play, I guess. Um, he said, you can trade me, but don't trade me far Florida boy at heart. And then yeah, he went on Jojo season of the bachelorette and one and now they're married they're very cute no they're very cute and he beat him being a quarterback and obviously his brother being a quarterback he does analyze quarterbacks so actually today when i was watching him he was talking about dylan gabriel who we're going to talk about because they're in this division but just other rookie quarterbacks in the league right now and he was analyzing them on their play so far and like comparing it to college and things like that so shout out to jordan rogers last thing last thing last thing okay isn't it crazy though this is crazy to me so like when you get cast on the bachelorette you're with like a bunch of average people right you have like john in sales you have like the jerk who like it is doing whatever like doesn't have a job can you imagine walking into that room being an nfl quarterback are you kidding yeah like you're just not only are you an NFL quarterback but your brother is Aaron Rodgers like I would have just walked home you're telling me I have to walk in and mind you on the bachelorette it's what like 30 men that she has to choose from and get down to the wire this man was the clear winner I think they're either expecting or they might have had their child already but um yeah that's like from a guy's point of thing and like let me be so honest men are so dramatic men are very dramatic and the NFL is living proof of that.

22:32But I would have walked away if I was a guy and I had to be on Jordan Rodgers' season. Like, I'm trying to think about who the equivalent would have been in, like, girl form.

22:46That's like a famous singer's sister. Yeah, but, okay, it could be, like, Brandi Cyrus. So Brandi Cyrus is also very famous, incredibly talented. I have this shirt from her that says Giddy Up and I wear it all the time. but I think that Brandi Cyrus would be similar because she has a kind of more famous like really really a-list sister she is also very famous and would be like starstruck to be in there with yeah yeah Brandi Cyrus like shout out she's incredible voice of an angel stunning I'm so glad that she's had her moment okay let's go to the Browns the Browns the Browns are losing this season, they notoriously came in with the five quarterback room.

23:33So they had Joe Flacco, Shaduar Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, and two other quarterbacks on their quarterback list. None of them were truly like such a standout to be the best. Joe Flacco has a Super Bowl win, the only Super Bowl he ever went to. He won. He has like, he beat Tom Brady. He beat Tom Brady. So he has a lot of qualification, but has not been doing well. He's already had six interceptions in the first four games. So I'm wondering, is this Joe's last season? To me, it feels like it might be. And he might have played his last starting game if he does decide to retire after this. So curious to see what happens there.

24:16But Dylan Gabriel is stepping in. So the lineup was going Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, Shadour Sanders, and then the other quarterback on the list. Dylan Gabriel is an older rookie. So he's 24. He played six years of college football. He's on a four-year,$6.2 million rookie deal with the Browns with a$1.16 million signing bonus guarantee. He's known for his ability to scramble, create plays outside of the pocket. Like we were just saying, a lot of teams are looking for that these days. So I think it's going to be interesting. The last week, the Browns lost to the Lions 34 to 10. They scored in their first drive or one of their first two drives and then basically couldn't get it back after that.

25:03I'm really excited. The Browns were hanging in for a second. They were. At the beginning of that game, as a Lions fan, I was like, okay, okay, we're going to have to work here. We're going to have to work here. And we did. And, of course, we did work. but it was more like work instead of like you gotta work you know yeah w-o-r-k versus w-u-r-k oh wait i spell it w-e-r-k wait is there three different words i guess that's it's w-e-r-k i've never even heard w-u but this is the same thing when you say per and i feel like a grandma i never feel like a grandma i'm so young at heart okay guys victoria whenever Victoria like asked me something or like is like checking in with me on like times for like us recording she's always like okay does this work and I'm like yeah it works and then when we solidify it I'm like purr and the other day she goes I just can't say that I feel too old I like never heard it outside of you and I'm not gonna search for it because then my algorithm's gonna get messed up I like my algorithm of women in their 30s and 40s they're my people I like them no like if you're young go off i lived my young life and followed my young my young girly pops on the internet all throughout but now i'm about to be 31 libra season and i don't know the lingo and i'm okay with that hey i do i do follow a trend sometimes though like the little sunglasses i've like gotten into those oh yeah yeah yeah i love those the only reason why like i think i'm still in with the lingo is because I also, if you don't know, I also teach dance on the side.

26:45So like I'm around middle schoolers, high schoolers, and elementary students on a weekly basis. So I get a plethora of education. You're also 24 though. So when you say it, it doesn't sound crazy versus like when I say it, I have friends with an 11 year old. So you're like, maybe not. But speaking of the Browns this Dylan Gabriel thing is like I saw it coming I don't know if it's going to be Joe Flacco's last season in the NFL because Joe Flacco was on the Colts this previous season and now obviously Daniel Jones is taking over that position Daniel Jones has been doing great besides this past week but we'll talk about them in a second Joe Flacco is just like such a veteran and I think because of his accolades and his long resume that he has he's gonna continue to be someone that at least teams are looking at to have on their roster for a couple more years.

27:41I'm not going to say he's going to be in the league for 10 more years, but I don't foresee this being his last season. It could very well be, but I don't see it. Dylan Gabriel has played a lot of college football and he's 24. He's played a lot of college football, as Victoria mentioned. So him already having that experience, mind you, he played on multiple different teams in the CFB. So he's had multiple different teams there. Now he's coming to the NFL. Yes, a huge step up, but primarily because of the fact that he's played a lot of football already at a high level, I think he might slide into this role.

28:14And I do think it's going to mirror what happened in New York this past week where Jackson Dart played for the Giants the first time. Jackson Dart is also a rookie out of Ole Miss. he didn't have a great game. I think he threw for like 100 and some odd yards, but the defense, the receivers, the coaches, everyone played with like a little bit of a different energy because it's like this young kid is coming in and he's giving it our all. So I think that situation is going to be replicated with the Browns when Dylan Gabriel starts. And I'm kind of excited to see it. Also, shout out to Shadir, which is funny because Baltimore really wanted Shadir Sanders.

28:51And it's ironic because Lamar Jackson is possibly going to be out for... a little bit of time. So Shadur Sanders could have went and played for Baltimore and been behind Lamar, but now he's QB three. And if the rules stand the same, I believe QB one and QB two have to be absolutely hurt for QB three to even get in the game. So even if Dylan Gabriel is playing like crap, Joe Flacco is still the second quarterback. Shadur Sanders cannot get in the game until both those people are ruled out. Right, right. And if you're just coming into the season, Shadur Sanders was supposed to, quote unquote, be one of the top picks in the draft.

29:30He ended up going fifth round and there was some controversy over what happened. Adam Schefter came out with a, we got a notification a couple of weeks ago saying that Shadour didn't want to go to the Ravens because he didn't want to be second string. And now he's third string. The press has had so much to say about Shadour Sanders. And in my opinion, a lot of unfounded claims about his attitude and his pompousness, because if I'm one of the top paid best quarterbacks in college, I'm also going to be showing off my watch. I think he's iconic. There's I think the majority of things that I've seen in the media about him from him, not from anyone else.

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30:10You can say what you want about all the rest of the media, but from him, everything that I've seen of him saying, I don't hate him. I don't hate him. And I also think that things get twisted a lot. And I don't necessarily think that he was calling saying, I don't want to play for you. I think that call might've said, I would like to hold out to see if I could get number one spot. And so you never know. It's all he said, she said at this point, if you have a transcript of the phone call that can be taken differently. I think the media has skewed against him so negatively. And I don't like to see that, especially from a young guy who has a lot of potential.

30:50So he's a whole situation. I think the only thing with that, though, Shudder knew he wasn't going to be the number one guy anywhere because he fell so low in the draft. If you're drafting a quarterback that low in the draft, he's not going to be a number one guy no matter what the situation is. But we also don't When that call was had, like, we don't know at what point in the draft that piece of information came out because it could have been day one and they could have said, hey, hold out till our next round. We're going to pick you up. And he could say and he might have said, hey, we're still in round one.

31:22Like, we don't know what the transcript is. So it's all speculation. But my problem with the entire situation is that the media has pushed all of the speculation negative when we don't know. we don't know i think it comes from though like his family background like his dad was a great player in the nfl if you don't know his dad his name was deon sanders he had he's head coach of colorado who is where shader sanders went so that's also kind of like he was not one of the highest paid receivers in college football but it's also his dad was that coach that when you look even farther past that they had a reality tv show growing up so these kids have been in the No, but my point being, these kids have been in the press for so long, so they know how to play into narratives, and they're also accustomed to a certain type of lifestyle.

32:13Am I saying Shudder Sanders is the most arrogant player in the league? No, there's way more divas in the league other than Shudder Sanders. however where there's smoke there's fire and I do think he definitely passed up an opportunity not playing but behind Lamar Jackson and Baltimore because he thought he could beat out Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel with the Browns at that point in the draft like it wasn't and I think the Baltimore Ravens I need to go back and look but it was a specific pick and I don't think it was in the first or second round when they were going to pick Shadur so yes and no like I'm not Shadur is a great quarterback period but yeah so why are we all talking so much shit that's my problem but it's you can't it's the storyline like his dad his family having a reality tv show and playing with travis hunter who's the heisman winner like you can't not talk about him because he's had five billion other things around him that are like also like prime time things and i think like now he's proven himself like he played well in the preseason but like we're still nobody's mad at him I think like that he's he's working it no because I think the narrative of him being like mad that's pass it's like yes he got drafted late yes he didn't want to play for the Ravens okay cool now he has to go and actually prove himself in the NFL I think he can do that but I think it has to be done gracefully and like hesitantly because of the word but because of the things around him like it's it's just it's just it is what it is like you're not gonna say the same thing about oh nobody from iowa's like you know what i mean it's just it's just different for him unfortunately that that's just how it is i'm gonna agree to disagree i'm gonna say my last point is I think this is so much of the media's doing.

34:10I don't, I think that if you clip everything from just Shadour, the narrative could have been different, but now the media has done this and like, I don't care that he had a TV show. He's also 22 and he's probably over people speculating about him. So he's like, I don't care anymore. Okay, we have to move on from him though.

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35:56That was their first loss. Their main storyline here is obviously getting Daniel Jones from the Giants and Jim Irsay, their owner, passed away. Carly Irsay Gordon assumed the role of CEO and primary owner. I said it in one of our first episodes, but this is what happens when you put women in charge. We change the culture. We look at things differently. Carly's on the field with their headphones on and it seems they have a good thing going at the Colts. Nobody was really expecting anything from them. I think with Daniel Jones coming in, obviously anytime there's a new quarterback, you have some expectations, but I think that they've really blown it out of the water and come out as a team from behind that really no one was expecting.

36:40And obviously this is a show by the girls. So we got to cheer on our girls. Carly sisters are also vice chairs and co-owners who are likely having an impact on the overall culture. So whatever they're cooking over there we are loving it yeah I mean shout out to the Colts didn't expect y 'all to have the season that you're having so far didn't expect you to be on top of the AFC South especially with the Texans and the Jaguars and arguably the Titans because they also have a rookie quarterback but yeah they're doing well no complaints I love what they're doing in the front office and I think that's a huge part of why they're doing so well when it comes to like the organizational standpoint of this team and how they run their team as well yeah absolutely so we'll just say colts go off keep going off we'll be watching the titans the titans yikes yeah yeah i mean when your quarterback goes essentially on national television and in a press conference after the fourth game that y 'all loss and tells everyone in the whole world that y 'all are ass says a lot yeah it does say a lot so cam ward their rookie quarterback he's on a four-year fully guaranteed rookie contract valued at approximately 48.7 million with a 32.1 million dollar signing bonus that's so much money it also like for a rookie quarterback insane that's a fifth year and a fifth year option He was the number one overall pick from the 2025 draft.

38:12Whoa. So it's interesting just to talk about the shoe door of it all and then come to this contract. 32.1 million signing bonus is holy cow. I hope that he's investing that in 401k stocks. I hope that we're doing some good stuff with that money while you're young. The Titans are on their longest losing streak. Since moving from Houston to Tennessee in 1997, 10-game loss. That's brutal. Yeah, definitely brutal. But it's funny because Kent Ward and Shadur Sanders, I actually saw in person together right before they got drafted. They were at some game in Texas because I think Deion Sanders still has like a house or something here.

39:00So Shadur Sanders and Shiloh, who's Shadur's brother, he was in the NFL, but he got cut. which people don't talk about that either. And that's another really interesting point about his family. But yeah, I saw them together and they're actually pretty good friends. And people were comparing the stat lines. I mean, obviously they're always going to do that. They're going to compare them to each other. But Cam Ward's a really good young talent. I think it sucks when you're the best quarterback coming out of college and you know you're going to a trash team because that trash team needs the best quarterback coming out of college.

39:34so that's just how the cookie crumbles hopefully they can rebuild but yeah i don't see the titans going anywhere up from here unfortunately yeah what are the it's the first stage in grief is acceptance or what it's uh what is that the fifth is that the fifth stage well i think that's the first stage i feel like acceptance is when you're like okay i'm over it okay I think that is the fifth the fifth stage anyway yeah well they've accepted it I mean if he's saying that out loud then they're probably talking about it in the room so maybe they'll be able to pull something out I mean they have Tony Pollard who's you know pretty good at rushing Calvin Ridley wide receiver he was on my first fantasy team ever and I really liked the guy got me some good points he didn't give me some good points so I don't know he's a he's a check in my book.

40:28He's a good receiver. Yeah. We'll see. I'm expecting them to have a losing record. Hopefully they can pull out at least a win or two for a little bit of self-confidence. Okay. And then finally, AFC West Chargers versus Raiders. Justin Herbert in Brazil in his opening game, 318 yards, two touchdowns in Brazil, which Brazil has also been affirmed as a place for the NFL for the next couple years. I don't remember the exact details, but we will be going back to Brazil with the NFL, which is exciting. Generally, if you have 250 or more passing yards, that's like a good game for a quarterback. So to come out 318 yards in that opener is great.

41:13They just had their first loss 21 to 18 loss to the Giants who had just put in their rookie quarterback, Jackson Dart. So that's really interesting. But Keenan Allen smashing it 24 receptions 231 yards three touchdowns this season he was actually on the Chargers 2013 to 2023 then they broke up how sad he broke up he went to the Bears and then they were like oh my god I want you back like we need you I miss you come back so he's back he said okay I guess okay fine fine I'll come back to you I miss you too and he has 998 catches as of today So he's about to hit his thousandth reception, which is super exciting.

41:58So congrats, Keenan, on an incredible career. I'm glad you got your girlfriend back. I'm glad you're feeling good. I'm going to make something happen. Mind you, that first game that they played in Brazil was their division rivals, the Kansas City Chiefs. And I was going to say, when you told me that they're atop of their division right now, don't get used to it. Because the Chiefs are right behind them. And they just got Xavier Worthy back, where Shee Rice comes back in two games. And I think that's a game changer for the Chiefs. Total game changer for the Chiefs. Yeah, I, you know, the Chargers are on top, but the Chiefs are back.

42:43The Chiefs were playing like the Chiefs. We know I criticized them previously and said, you know, they need to change something in their organization. to continue to be dominant. But I think something in them like clicks with the Chiefs, like something in them, I don't know what it is, but the entire, it's like they're wired. It's like they got chips or something. And then it's like, okay, go time. And they can make it happen, which I think has made them one of the most dominant teams. I do think, I don't love watching the demise of anyone or anything. I'm like just kind of like sappy girl. Like when teams lose, I feel sad, even if they suck.

43:24And like, if you're like, if you have like a nice head coach or like a good seeming quarterback, then I just feel bad for you. But I think like seeing a Chiefs like just complete implosion was going to feel sad to watch rather than like exciting for other teams. So I think that the Chiefs coming. I like the storyline. I think it's really interesting to talk about and watch, watch as we go. But on the Chargers, Omari and Hampton is a rookie with 270 yards. Oh my gosh. two touchdowns. His name is being thrown in for rookie of the year. I know that you love, who's our guy that you love? Peekabooka.

44:02Yeah, Peekabooka. But I think both of their names are really in there for 1 ,000%. Yeah. I mean, Amara and Hampton, like he, he's, he's really good. I love watching a rookie that is undisputably good because we talk about all these rookies and we're like, there's always like kind of an excuse for them, right? Like, oh, well, this guy's family or like, oh, well, this guy didn't want to go there or whatever. And I feel like I would love to study how can we get the stats for incredible starts and longevity or overall payment in the league? I would love to look that up over the last 10 years of like who comes in hot.

44:42Like what did Travis Kelsey's first season look like versus like all of the success that he has had or that's super interesting to me. Yeah. It's also interesting because like, I don't know, the Chiefs, you kind of want them, like, I don't hate the Chiefs. Do I want them to win another Super Bowl? Heck not! But like, I don't hate them. And I also love Hershey Rice. Hershey Rice is going to be probably one of the best receivers we see from the time he got drafted until, until, until. So that alone, pairing that up with Patrick, it's just like it's kind of a nasty combo super nasty combo super nasty combo patrick mahomes is so crazy we'll talk about it on a different episode because we don't have time for him today but i feel like i have opinions that have nothing to do with his performance i can't wait to hear them i'll just say one why do goatees still exist that was the first one you no but like i'm in agreement with you i'm sorry your husband or boyfriend has a goatee i don't i mean like no some people can pull it off because like sometimes my boyfriend will have a goatee and it's not terrible oh i'm sorry i'm going to attack you no because i do agree with you though still yeah but because like sometimes i'm like okay we got to like get this double back.

46:13Yeah. Cause like only for a short period of time, we're going to have to look up men that look hotter with a goatee than without one in the NFL specifically. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Well, I mean, yes. In the NFL. Also, maybe if we can't find any good, good info, we'll, we'll do it for the rest of them. We'll do the NFL. I'll look it up over the next five weeks. Period. Period. Well, I think that was like a really good recap of all of our team. Did we talk about, we talked about the bottom too well no we didn't talk about the bottom the Raiders I have zero notes see it's hard for me because like I was really high on the Raiders pre-season yeah you were I remember that I was very high I loved you know Smith at quarterback Gino Smith like he's not the best but like he can still get the job done he's like Joe Flacco but like not as bad That is Joe Flacco.

47:07I mean, he does throw some interceptions. But not only do they have Geno, who's in his first year with the Raiders because he was on the Seahawks last season. So they have Geno's with that quarterback. They also have a new head coach, Pete Carroll, who I believe is one of the oldest coaches in the league, if I'm not mistaken. So new head coach. They have rookie running back Ashton Gentry. Ashton Gentry was pretty much the runner-up to winning the Heisman. If you don't know what the Heisman is, it's like the most distinguished award in college football for a player to receive. So you have Ashton and Dan running back.

47:37You have Brock Bowers, who's a really good tight end. And you have J.K. Kennedy Myers and Trey Tucker, who are wide receiver one and two. The team is not terrible on paper. It's a really decent team. I don't know. I don't know either. But I do think that Pete Carroll is who other white elderly men should be looking to for how they should act in the press. Why do you say that? I'm just going to leave that there. i'm just gonna no explanation you have to go look it up you know why you guys know why come on men over 75 do not need a twitter go read the newspaper go read the newspaper is they're trying to they're trying to evolutionize themselves evolve with the times um lastly i will say that the raiders ashton jenji does this really weird stance and people in the media have now compared it to Michael Myers.

48:35So typically, like when you line up and you're a running back in the backfield, you're behind the quarterback expecting to receive the ball, right? Ashton Jinty stands straight up. No emotion, no movement in his body. He is standing straight up. Imagine you on the defensive line looking at Ashton Jinty getting ready to absolutely demolish you because he can getting like getting a run and possibly getting an end zone so that is a very spooky thing and speaking of spooky things it's a direct lead into our spooky season top five spooky moments top five is a segment that we do a lot but since it is october we decided to do a spooky themed top Top five.

49:24I will say the Ashton Jinty thing is definitely probably like an honorable mention. But my spooky season, number one, top five thing is the Bengals offense descending into the abyss. The Bengals offense, obviously Joe Burrow, he is the quarterback for the Bengals. He is now out for a long period of time. Since then, QB2 Jake Browning has taken over and their offense has looked terrible. can't blame it all on the quarterback though because i think some of the play calling is questionable but if you cannot get the ball in jamar chase and t higgins hands jamar chase and t higgins are both wide receivers on the bangles and jamar chase is one of the if not the best wide receiver in the league i'm sure most of you know who he is you probably went one two or three in your fantasy drafts but if you can't get the balls in chase's hands then you who have some issues.

50:17Not only to mention, they have a really good running back in Chase Brown, and he can't even get anything going. So that's my first spooky season. Do you have any thoughts on that, Victoria? It's sad. I was really looking forward to a tank that says here for Joey B. I think when I go to a Bengals game, I'll still wear it. Maybe he'll be back, but turf toe's pretty serious injury. It's taken out, you know, a lot of really, really great quarterbacks. It sounds absolutely ridiculous. Someone renamed this, But it's basically you overstretch the ligaments in the bottom of your big toe. You don't know how much you need your big toe until you don't have your big toe.

50:49So it's a really rough injury, actually. And I think it's just really sad. I think that the whole team is feeling like the lack of hype after Joe left because they're one of the teams that I have noted. The expectations from their team are so far from the reality of what's going on on the team now. Now, I don't think they're totally spent, but I can imagine them having a 9-8 or an 8-9 record from this point forward unless Joe comes back. So I don't think they're totally squashed, but they are going to make some serious adjustments. Yeah. And this is a playoff caliber team, so it really sucks. Last point, I will say they have a negative 534-yard differential in two games.

51:34That pretty much means in basic terms, their offense ain't doing nothing. And they, if you watch the last game in Monday Night Football, they got so many three and outs. They couldn't even convert and continue drives down the field. So it's sad. Three points. Three. No touchdowns. If you get done with the game and you don't have one touchdown, that feels horrible. Yeah. And again, you have Jamar Chase on your team. it's like when you it's like when you go out and you look like so hot and you're like i'm so confident and like your friends don't even compliment your outfit and you're like oh dang i rethink this that that was a good comparison okay i'm gonna list that was like my number one spooky season going into october these next four i'm gonna list off real quick and then we can kind of dive into each as we see fit but met life's curse we talked about the giants and the lake neighbors by receiver for the Giants goes out this week missing the rest of the season with an ACL injury obviously Giants were riding some momentum with rookie quarterback Jackson Dart coming in and now Malik neighbors their best receiver is out speaking of people that are out Lamar Jackson vanishing for week five talk about that a little bit earlier he has a hamstring injury nobody knows like how serious it is and like Raven's head coach came out and was like oh like it's not that serious like if Lamar wanted to play he would have still played but we had to keep him out which is valid like I think anybody in that position is going to want to still play but like think about the long-term consequences so that's interesting Ravens look to Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley who are their backup quarterbacks last or two more Tyler Kale also goes down that was really spooky to look at his reaction to getting carted off the field going down in Miami's Monday Night Football game.

53:22My last thing is AJ Brown's cryptic tweet that sends chills through the Eagles flock. It's interesting because this tweet was essentially kind of like a plea for not getting the targets and then not getting the ball as he's used to. AJ Brown is the number one wide receiver on the Eagles, but if you look at the numbers, yes, the Eagles are 4-0, but their offense has been not producing like normal. So those are my top five spooky seasons. I'm curious to see out of those, which one stands out to you the most. Okay. Oh my gosh. Okay. It was a lot. I want to go number two. What was number two? Number two was the whole giant situation with Malik neighbors going down.

54:09Yes. Okay. So this I want to do really quick, but a bunch of players have come out saying that they hate that turf, that the turf is so bad. So I was seeing in the media, players are saying like, something's got to change. We need real grass, all that stuff, which also is funny because the Cardinals, they have their ugly, like dirty uniforms that are supposed to look a little roughed up. Hate, hate, hate, double hate, loathe. Name that movie. And that was a terrible, terrible, whatever acting moment for me, but it's from the coach and really hate those uniforms. And it doesn't even make sense because everyone's on turf.

54:46So, like, why are we dirtying up our uniforms when, like, all you're going to get is, like, turf or paint? But I think that if players are coming out and saying something, like, you guys have enough money to fix it. You gotta listen. I don't think it's a curse. Like, I don't know that I, like, I don't think it's a curse. No, the Giants are cursed. Historically, they're cursed. Okay, the Giants might be cursed, but I think that they need to change the field. Fair. So, that's what I have to say about that. if players are coming out then i i think that psychologically knowing that you could get injured on that field also then makes you more primed to get injured on that field which i just think is it's a net negative in the nfl a new field yes it's expensive but we're dealing with billionaires owning teams okay i'm not afraid of whatever amount of money that is the new freaking bill stadium was like eight like two billion dollars billion billion billion dollars okay five ten fifteen i don't know how much a new field costs but like i can't cost that much high schools have them high schools have them okay oh don't even start on that come to texas you'll find out real quick how big our stadiums are in high school football yeah so we can change the field and at least like let that go because if there's something that's actively consistent issue in injury that's been noted by players we got to get rid of it okay i want to talk about tyreek hill yeah tyreek hill is you know one of the top receivers in the league that's it and i don't know if you i would not look it up if you don't like his leg is this was similar to me watching not quite as bad but like if hutchinson's injury last year i don't know if you guys do not look it up if you don't like gory like he got like like, dumby leg.

56:32If that was a 10, this one is like a 7.5 to me. It's really nasty. But the interesting part about this that Giovanna brought up is, like, his reaction. He had a huge smile plastered over his face. So I'm curious, is this all of the adrenaline pumping through and him putting on a show to say everything's going to be fine? were all okay or giovanna you brought up yesterday do you want to make your point about it yeah i mean not only was this man smiling he was like waving to the crowd like he was a freaking being like he was in a procession he was getting like waltzed across the field or something i don't know but tyreek hill has been in the media for a long time now if you're not sure last season he gets pulled over right in front of the stadium for a speed and for a speeding ticket that didn't go over well because there was some you know racially heated things that were involved with that then you move on now he's in the media again because he wants to be traded or says some interesting words about him not wanting to be in Miami anymore and then you move on and he has like this whole court thing going on with one of his baby mamas and then now this so my opinion is that he was smiling because he's thankful he does not have to play another snap with Miami for now Do I think that's like fully the truth?

58:00Maybe not. I think maybe it could be very much of a mass, like say like it's okay. But because of the amount of things that have been in the news about him specifically, I'm just like, you didn't even really want to play here in the beginning and the Dolphins so far have been terrible. So yeah. So they have a decently good game on Monday night football. I will, I will give them that they played decently well. So if you, if I was to like be an aura reader, which I'm not, but I don't think that Mike McDaniel's aura and Tyreek Hill's aura are friends. No, I agree with you. My husband's 42 years old, the coach.

58:43So he's like a younger head coach in the NFL. Yeah. He's a little quirky for sure. He looks. Yeah. I was like, all the time. With his little glasses. Yeah. He just looks like, he looks like a smart, like he's a little on the like quirkier end, like no shade. I mean, he's interesting to watch for sure. But it, it doesn't seem shocking to me that if Tyreek Hill said, I'm not enjoying playing for him, that I would be like surprised and not because either person is a bad person. But I think also like Tyreek Hill has been in the media. He's faced a lot of like off the field adversity and some of it's doing for sure.

59:29You know, like I'm not saying that all of this happened to him and he's a victim. Yeah. But he's been in the media a lot for a lot of negative things. And it's, yeah, maybe he's just hit his max. And so when he got hurt, it was like, I'm done. Yeah. Yeah. Because you mentioned that to me yesterday. And at first I was like, I think it's just all of the adrenaline and it's this mask and whatever. but the more that I've kind of really thought about it. It kind of makes sense, right? Also something I told you yesterday, but I'll reiterate it. There's a couple driving on the highway that was next to the ambulance that was carrying Tyreek Hill to the hospital.

1:00:06And this man is like sitting in the chair on FaceTime, like still smiling. Like typically you see players when they are carted off, they're like cursing. They're upset. They're crying. They're emotional. They might have a tower over their head because they don't want you to see their faces because of how emotional they are. Like being carted off the field is a heavy thing to go through, especially when you're a player like Tyreek Hill, who's a big part of your team's identity. So it's just interesting that the Dolphins did end up winning that game. And I want to mention because that was why Darren Waller tied in that I mentioned earlier had two touchdowns.

1:00:41But they did win that game against the Jets 27-21. So again, we'll see how they operate without Tyreek. Yeah, I think Miami's going to have a losing season. I don't know what I think the numbers are going to be, but I think without Tyreek Hill and just with the way that they've been playing, I can't imagine this becoming a winning season. I mean, I didn't expect anything from the Colts and look at them, but I think this is a big loss for the organization. However, if Tyreek's like that, then I'm curious who's going to step up. Because anytime that there is big energy, whether it be positive or negative, when that gets removed, something else always comes into that position.

1:01:26So I think if Tyreek was very unhappy, and even if you're just kind of mute at practice, like even if you're not speaking out, like energy does matter, especially in a locker room. So I mean, I don't know how he was in his locker room. I don't know if he turned it on for the team, if he was a leader of the team, but he's had a lot of stuff going on. So I'm curious of if if there is somebody else to step into that energy, even just on the field, what's going to happen to the organization? So I think they're really interesting. Like this makes the Dolphins so much more interesting to me than they were previously.

1:02:02Just kind of like losing Tyreek's upset. That's kind of all we're hearing. like Mike's kind of showing the talking block. Yeah. But now I think this is a more interesting story of like what's going to happen next. So, yeah, I think Jalen Waddle is definitely going to have to step up. Who is the wide receiver to will now probably be one outside of Terry Carroll, but more importantly, two is going to have to step up. Who is the quarterback of the dolphins. He's not playing at the greatest of football. And there's a lot of controversy around him. Listen to as a great person, but I do think it's a valid argument to sit here and evaluate him and realize should he be playing football in the NFL still if you don't know to his history he's had a lot of things with concussions and like CTE is a very serious very serious thing that like I think players don't take into consideration until it's too late so that's like my my heart hurts for Tua because I understand like you want to play football you're a young guy still but what's more important getting this really bad franchise possibly to a playoff possibly to a super bowl or protecting yourself and protecting you know your health and the future so i don't know yeah i think that it's really interesting because i'm pretty sure that cte can develop even without concussions yeah it says that they're a risk factor but like bad coffee creamer is a risk factor for cancer.

1:03:32So I don't know if there's, I'm curious to dig more into it. Is concussions, like, is there a correlation that we know? Because from what I know about CTE, it's, you don't know if you're going to get it. Like there's no exact, this is what causes it. And so that could be part of his, his idea. I do think that the guardian cap should be worn on him just because he has had concussions. One of the major ones is he had a concussion and something with his spine and his hands ended up closing up, which I think really scared the world. I think that's like a really scary thing to watch. And I think that people love the NFL until it gets really scary.

1:04:14And then that really makes a cause. At the same time, they have some of the best medical staff in the world. If someone gets an injury, they have an MRI within 10 minutes of getting the, like within a day of getting the injury. And so I do have some trust in the trainers that are, that are there that have been there for so long that if it was like, so if it was so dangerous for him outside of the regular danger, like would they put him on the field because it is his decision to play, but it's also the organization. So it's very, it's dynamic and it's interesting. And yeah. I don't care if you tell me that they're not cute.

1:04:53Like everyone should wear a guardian. Yeah. Not a gladiator cap. No, Guardian. Tua needs to wear one. I don't think there's a direct correlation, but I always remember this movie, Concussion. I've watched it probably five times, but it highlights concussions in the NFL and how that's leading to CTE. Is it a direct correlation? No. But is it one of the leading causes? Yeah. And it comes from the hard contact. That's why they have the targeting rules. They have the quarterback safety rules. and I think after two his last injury we're like talk about a hard watch like I had to turn the TV off like seeing him like I think outside of that the the Bills guy I forget Damar Hamlin after like him if you don't know who Damar Hamlin is he's on the defense of the Bills he like literally die on the field like his heart stopped on the field during a game and they had to rush him to the hospital by the grace of God he is still alive and still playing football too but the two thing like it just scares me and like I like Tua and that's why like I have a heart for it right it's like it's like it always comes from like a place of love I mean Aiden Hutchinson went down he got the wind knocked out of him last weekend and Aiden Hutchinson is like huge part of the Lions defense and when that happened they were panning to the stands and the way that the fans you could just tell that their heart stopped but then it's we're not saying don't play because we don't want to watch you we don't want you to be successful but I think that like people get emotionally attached to these players and watching them play.

1:06:23And then you're emotionally in it and they get hurt or something happens. And I think especially with the brain, it's scary. It's scary. So I definitely like understand where you're coming from, where you're coming from with it, especially just like your brain matters. I actually got a brain MRI last year and I just, the pictures just resurfaced and I'm like, it's so cool. I know what my brain looks like. That actually is kind of cool. I'm going to text you a picture of my brain later. Please. If you don't send it to me, I'm a text student waiting for your brain pics. Where's the brain pics? Okay.

1:06:56Well, I think that closes out our day today. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Happy October. Happy spooky season. Happy Libra season. And we will see you next week for another episode. We should have an exciting interview coming next Friday as well. So look out for that. follow us the game the podcast.substack.com I'm at hey Victoria Henderson Giovanna at Giovanna Scroggins the game the podcast wherever you get your socials will be on YouTube within the next month or so so excited for that a lot of people after the Brooklyn episode requested video so we are figuring out how to make that happen for you we love you follow us on social come hang out don't forget to set your lineups and we'll be coming out on Thursdays originally we're coming out on Wednesdays.

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