In short
A live discussion of the film A Sound of Thunder (time-travel “adventure” to kill a T-Rex) and how its time-travel rules collapse under scrutiny, especially the “butterfly effect” and “time waves” that escalate from plants to animals to humanity.
Guests/backgrounds
Co-hosts Justin and Kelly (mentioned as “co-hosts” in the intro), with main hosts Jason Manzoukas and June Diane Raphael. They also reference cast/characters from the movie (Ed Burns, Ben Kingsley, Wallace Shawn, and the Love Actually actress).
Key claims
The episode argues the movie is confusing and under-explains paradoxes (why repeated trips don’t cause crowd/variant collisions), and that CGI/production issues (forced theatrical release without finished effects) make the dinosaurs and future tech look cheap. The “time waves” explanation is criticized as too convenient, since the scientist predicts events that haven’t happened yet.
Notable examples
A character steps on a butterfly; later “time waves” supposedly progress from plants to animals to monsters/catfish-humans. The hosts mock treadmill/green-screen “Chicago” scenes, misspelled background graphics (cannabis text), and Ed Burns’ emotionally flat reactions while loved ones die. They also cite a nitrogen leak that prevents shooting, and Ben Kingsley’s energetic performance as a highlight.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPlot Overview of A Sound of Thunder
3:16 to 4:43
An overview of the movie's plot and the implications of time travel.
“if they know how time travel works in the movie.”
Character Reactions and Performances
4:43 to 6:50
Discussion on character performances and reactions in the film.
“And especially about the CGI in this film But first, let me bring out my co-host Mr.”
CGI and Visual Effects Critique
6:50 to 9:45
Critique of the CGI and visual effects used in the film.
“and we love her for it please welcome my other co-host June Diane Raphael welcome june how are you paul i'm doing fine thank you for asking how are you i'm okay hey, I, oh, this was a thinker.”
Time Travel Logic and Paradoxes
9:45 to 14:00
Exploration of the logic behind time travel as depicted in the movie.
“A man named Charles Hatton used it to make money.”
Exploring Time Travel Logic in A Sound of Thunder
14:00 to 14:56
The hosts delve into the time travel mechanics of the film, discussing inconsistencies and plot holes.
“Because even if they go, we arrive a second earlier, a second later, it doesn't make a difference because that other group is coming.”
The Concept of Time Waves
14:56 to 18:15
A discussion about the concept of time waves in the film and its relation to the plot.
“is why did it take 24 hours for the world to recover?”
The Concept of Time Waves
20:16 to 21:30
A discussion about the concept of time waves in the film and its relation to the plot.
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Production Issues and Budget Cuts
21:42 to 26:22
The hosts discuss the problematic production history and budget cuts of the film.
“and I think we should talk about it right at the top, The budget was$80 million.”
Critiquing Character Actions and Plot
26:22 to 28:00
A critique of character decisions and the film's portrayal of societal collapse.
“All right, here's the things, some of the things I loved.”
Understanding the Movie's Ecosystem
28:00 to 28:58
Exploring the film's confusing rules and ecosystem dynamics.
“So I just didn't understand the ecosystem.”
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The Ripple Effect of Time Travel
28:58 to 30:08
Discussion on how changes in the past affect the future.
“All the changes in evolution that you affected, all of them will come in the waves.”
Character Reactions and Logic Gaps
30:08 to 31:06
Examining character reactions during a crisis and their logic.
“Like he is reacting he's reacting like the way that you react when you're not sure if it had rained on you or maybe was that like an air conditioner?”
CGI and Production Flaws
31:06 to 32:35
Commentary on CGI shortcomings and production design.
“Maybe, maybe you could convince me that Ed Burns and the actress playing the doctor here, because they know what's going on, they are a little bit more like, what are we doing, what are we doing?”
Character Design and Choices
32:35 to 34:08
Analyzing character design choices and their implications.
“And by the way, you're nice for saying they're on a treadmill.”
Ben Kingsley's Performance
34:08 to 36:25
Praising Ben Kingsley's acting and its comparison to Robin Williams.
“Ed Burns must have seen this and been like motherfucker.”
Plot Mechanics and Its Flaws
36:25 to 39:20
Investigating plot mechanics and the butterfly effect in the film.
“Ben Kingsley is doing, honestly, some of the best work of his career.”
Crisis Management and Logic
39:20 to 42:00
Dissecting the characters' decision-making during crises.
“And that's what sets the rest of the movie in motion.”
Exploring the Chaos of Time Travel
42:00 to 45:46
The hosts discuss the absurdities and plot holes in 'A Sound of Thunder'.
“Instead, he sprays, like, I don't know, some sort of chemical, and he's like, or water maybe or something, whatever, that clears the path, and he's like, go out the door, go out the door.”
Exploring the Chaos of Time Travel
45:52 to 46:08
The hosts discuss the absurdities and plot holes in 'A Sound of Thunder'.
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The Villainy of Nature and Plot Mechanics
48:30 to 56:01
The hosts delve into the underlying themes of nature as the villain in the film.
“because I could never really wrap She drew the picture.”
Exploring 'A Sound of Thunder'
56:01 to 1:00:44
A discussion about the movie's plot holes, character dynamics, and scientific inaccuracies.
“We're rooting for them to get back to shitty future.”
Audience Questions and Insights
1:00:45 to 1:04:30
Audience members pose questions about the film, sparking further analysis and humor.
“but Rennie Harlan was fired because Ray Bradbury didn't like his creative decisions, which means that...”
Second Opinions on the Film
1:04:31 to 1:10:01
The hosts discuss mixed reviews of 'A Sound of Thunder' and share their own experiences with film education.
“So it's the part of the movie where they see the big, like, future monkeys that are chasing people.”
Nervous VHS Exchanges with a Teacher
1:10:01 to 1:11:19
A humorous recounting of a childhood experience involving VHS tapes and a teacher's interest in borrowing them.
“And my teacher was always trying to take my VHSs of my pay-per-viewed movies.”
Review of 'A Sound of Thunder'
1:11:20 to 1:13:31
A detailed reading of a review that discusses the film's unique visual effects and societal context.
“This last review I tried to I tried to figure out Where to start and end it And I don't know where And I'm just, bear with me here It's written by Pierce And Pierce Yes And who did not get the part So it goes like this.”
Box Office Struggles and Production Issues
1:13:32 to 1:15:25
Discussion on the movie's box office performance and the production challenges faced during filming.
“It has a six on Rotten Tomatoes, but an 18 % for the audience score.”
Final Thoughts on Watching the Film
1:15:26 to 1:16:38
Critique of the film's length and CGI quality, advising listeners on whether to watch it.
Transcript
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1:32We saw a sound of thunder, so you know what that means.
1:51Justin and Kelly. A baby see a burlesque show with Nick Crowe. And take a bow with speed to hitting hoops control. Jay, man, big Paul, and the beautiful June. Gonna take you from the boom all the way to the road. Bring the game to shrink body, hope to blow off steam. Just a sucker, punch the odd life attempt at the great shot. This is Birdemic, how you stand in line. They call him a badass and he's on the line. Crank them 88 minutes cause they cool as ice. Cause they're bad Jim Barney looking kind of nice. Falling June, getting literal, Jason is getting late June is making sure all the monkey shots get paid They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade Here's a real question for you, how did this get paid?
2:30Hello, people of Earth! And hello, people of Largo!
2:39We are live once again in Los Angeles at our L.A. home, Largo, and we are so excited to be here because this is an important film. Very rarely on how did this get made do we talk about important issues like the problems of time travel. We are on, literally on a time bomb when we start to time travel. And let me tell you something, people. This movie is going to tell us how to prevent it. and it will be confusing and I'm not even sure if I know, if they know how time travel works in the movie. Let me tell you what goes on in this movie if you've not seen A Sound of Thunder. There is a group that runs adventure time traveling.
3:29Adventure time traveling that seems to only consist of one adventure. And that one adventure is killing a T-Rex. everyone's dream one dream you could travel anywhere do anything and the only thing they got is killing a T-Rex so they they do this adventure seems like three four times a day someone steps on something and honestly shit goes so terribly wrong that it's, like, if we are this delicate, we're fucked. Like, I don't understand. I don't even understand. It didn't even seem like what that person did or what he stepped on was that bad. What happened with that butterfly? Not like the only butterfly.
4:25Anyway, he steps on a butterfly. There's a better version of this movie called The Butterfly Effect with Ashton Kutcher, but same premise. Butterfly gets killed. Shit goes crazy. Ed Burns kind of unfazed We will talk about it all And especially about the CGI in this film But first, let me bring out my co-host Mr. Jason Manzoukas
4:56What's up, jerks?
5:01A sound of thunder The Sound of Thunder ASOT, where are my ASOT heads at? Yikes This was a full-blown yikes I was like, when this movie started and this shit started going down I was like, uh-oh They were like walking what I believe is on a treadmill while the green screen was going on I was like, what year was this? Like 92, 93, 2005 2005 2005 I have some interesting Space taxis but everybody's still dressed like it's the 40s I don't know why Or I would say some people are dressed like the 40s And other people just wore what they had in their closet Because Ed Burns is not rocking an old school gangster look I looked it up Ed Burns asleep during the entire movie they weekend at Bernie's him it was he is like he is like you said just now unfazed by truly insane sets of circumstances that are presented to him and he's like we'll be fine he reacts as if you know you just gave him like a slightly smaller piece of butter than he was expecting as if he's like I'm sorry I ordered a Diet Coke that's the weight I would even say that he doesn't even carry that much weight at one point in the movie in the third act he watches every person he loves die and he's like eh not not phased by much um but there is someone who can get to the heart of the matter and is phased by all the emotions and we love her for it please welcome my other co-host June Diane Raphael
7:05welcome june how are you paul i'm doing fine thank you for asking how are you i'm okay hey, I, oh, this was a thinker. You know, and I was listening to you backstage, and I'm like, Ed Burns, let's just get right into it. He says at the very end that he's going to figure out a way to tell himself, and I know we're jumping way ahead, to tell himself in the present time what happened in the future and that he's going to figure it out. But he doesn't. Well, he does. All he does is he tells his friend, the woman who's his friend, to tell him. But all he does... But she's the one that figures it out.
7:54But all he says is to himself, the future version tells the past version, I'm here. Doesn't, like, say anything. He says, like, no. He says, he says... The bio check is off. did such and such turn the bio scan off tell me show me this video because she's got a thing on her right yeah well but i thought it was out of the briefcase because she's also video she's got the briefcase thing too but she also has a thing so he's saying tell show me and only me the video of me now i saying the bio check is turned off but then she tells but then she tells the guy as soon as she gets back check that bio thing i know you're not doing the bio she doesn't even say it before.
8:36She tells him in the Yeah, while they're walking out. She's like, I know what you're up to. What's just so baffling is the movie set up and you're thinking, oh, there's some really clever, interesting way that this is going to that they're going to be able to communicate in present time from this and it's like, no, you just videotaped it. This is 2055. Let me first of all. They don't call first of all time safari is a brick and mortar store time safari looks like a bed bath and beyond you are walking down the street like relax the back i was like are they encouraging walk-ins but you know what i actually was like that's the one thing i want to do this that's the one thing for me that made sense because i was like retail is dying and this is they're bringing it back by The real sale is going the way of the dinosaurs.
9:35Absolutely. In the year 2055, a new technology was invented that could change the world, dot, dot, dot. And you have to wait for it when you're watching it real time or destroy it. Great, okay, I like it, good setup. A man named Charles Hatton used it to make money. We don't need that second one. Cut it. We don't, yeah. First note, cut that. Cut that. Now, I will say, when this movie opens up, I guess no one checked the masks That they wouldn't get too foggy Because you are looking at people's faces The light of the, like, the studio lights Are reflecting off the clear plastic goggles You really can't see their faces It feels like there's fog in there You can't tell who is who in there either I literally was so confused And I was like, this is how we're meeting our main cast and then quickly everything went away when Wallace Shawn's character from Toy Story, the dinosaur, appears.
10:40Because that dinosaur in Toy Story looks more realistic than this real T-Rex. The dinosaurs in the TV show Dinosaurs look better than the dinosaurs in this. These dinosaurs, again, what year was Jurassic Park? Oh, I'm not in the 2000s. 93? This is 2005. This is like a, this is a game that you would play on like a Game Boy. Yeah. This whole movie is cut scenes from a Sega CD game. It's like, was Corey Haim gonna pop up here and be like, dude, this mansion is wild and then disappear for 40 minutes while you just do a very... Was that a game? Oh, yeah. I had the Sega CD Corey Feldman. Maybe it was Corey Feldman.
11:36There was one of the Corys in a Sega CD game. I had it. I also had the Make Your Own Video Crisscross Sega CD. So you could take the song, you know, the Crisscross song, make a jump, and then you could re-edit it. But it really never worked. You really couldn't re-edit the footage, but you would sit there re-editing. So the game was editing? Pretty much. pretty much that's a task yeah it wasn't fun I always would put it in and then you would upload it and then you would create a music video yeah and then I wasn't getting paid my hourly wage but they said you know look this is about your career you were doing someone else's work that was a scam I mean this this whole opening I do have a a major question about this I like a time travel film okay as you like an airplane film I like a time travel film.
12:31The core problem to me about this movie, well, can you point it out? From a time travel perspective, can you tell me what I'm about to say? From a time travel perspective. Well, you don't need any preparation or training to do it. Okay, that's a good point. You can walk in and be in the prehistoric era an hour later. My thought was this. I was close. It was, they're going back to the same point. Right. for every adventure. It's not multiple adventures. It's this one thing to kill this one. Are you sure about that? Yes, because they know when the dinosaurs have dropped because of the volcano. Right?
13:08So they do this. Why aren't they running into all the other people who've gone on this tour?
13:20Yeah. Because they're all going back to the same spot. The same spot. It doesn't matter where you start from. No. If you're going to the same spot. You would be basically running into a crowd. Yeah. You would be, every time you would run this adventure, you'd be like, oh, fuck, oh, shit, oh, you're here? Well, and there would also be, like, it would create a paradox because the team, like, the guests would be different. Yes. But the team would be the same. So those people would be constantly running into variants of themselves. I couldn't get it out of my head. That should create the paradox. Yes.
13:55That's the butterfly. It doesn't matter if you kill a butterfly. You can't all arrive at the same spot over and over and over again. Well, I would have just... Because even if they go, we arrive a second earlier, a second later, it doesn't make a difference because that other group is coming. Because they're going to the same... They're playing out the same... It's a game, basically, where they're playing out the same five minutes for every mission. Yes, and that would make no... Like, the core principle of the movie, you have to go like, well, that's not important. Is that part of the Ray Bradbury story?
14:29Because I would lay it at the feet of this absolutely dumb movie, but it's based on a Ray Bradbury story. So I guess Ray Bradbury did have the technology worked out, but it just was too complicated for this movie. You need to get through it. You're absolutely right. That makes absolutely no sense. And really ruins the movie for me. Because I guess what I'm saying. I don't want to do this show anymore, to be honest. Black it out. Good night. But no, but that was like so interesting to me because also it means that like, all right, so if everything gets erased each time they go back, I mean, I also had another major time travel issue, which is why did it take 24 hours for the world to recover?
15:15because technically they leave that moment in the past and then the world would be moving forward from that moment. So they wouldn't even have a city or a building because the past would have moved forward. The waves of it all. Oh, the time? The time waves. And I'm just reflecting right now on the title of the movie. A Sound of Thunder. A Sound of Thunder. Is A Sound of Thunder a wave? Is that what we're... I don't know what a sound of thunder refers to in this movie at all. I think the idea is... Oh, I know it is. Because isn't it when you hear thunder, it's a little far away? It's like you can't...
15:59It's like you hear, you see lightning and then... No, you hear thunder and then you can see lightning or you see lightning and then you hear thunder. Well, either way... What is it? I know what you're saying. Yeah, right? I don't know. What does that have to do with this? Well, because it's like, because they did, like, so in this, they did something, and then a couple beats later, it starts to change. Oh, I see what you're saying. Like, yeah. That's, then I hate this movie more. I really do, too. Because I think that that is, I think that that is the idea of this. Because basically the time waves, yes, the, like, the compounding time waves keep making, And the woman who's the doctor who knows all the answers, she's like, well, this is how it's going to work.
16:46There's going to be time waves. And first it's going to be plants. Then it's going to be animals. Then it's going to end with us turning into like monsters. Okay. Catfish people. The shot of her turned into like an alien monster. She turned into. I almost fell over. She turned into a human catfish. By the way, by the way, I want to watch this movie. But that's what I'm talking about. Like, the idea of this movie. This should happen at minute 15. Then figure it out. The idea, but this is why I'm so confused. It's like, all right, so we have to accept that when he goes to visit her, when Ed Burns goes to visit her, she looks out the window.
17:30She's like, has it been 24 hours? He's like, actually, exactly. like he like he comes to her house at exactly the 24 hour mark so they can hit the wave and he's like i think what you said might be happening and he is again like all of his delivery is like i don't know i think like yeah i think nothing's going on even when like he's trapped underground with her and the other lady he's like you're gonna have to uh hold your breath and swim up there in the next couple of days. They're in a subway car, submerged in water. And he's like, we're going to have to wait, blow out the window, take the deepest breath possible, and swim.
18:10Like he's ordering a latte. It's so strange.
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22:20They're a foreign company. They had a deal with the studio that they must release theatrically their projects. And so they were forced into releasing a movie that did not have effects finished at all. They were just like, yeah, whatever. It was shot on Super 35, not even like real like not even it says Panavision at the end but that's not true they lied they lied to us they said this was going to be good just like Jurassic Park it was just it was so basically the thought is that the production company went bankrupt during post production and they're like well alright whatever we got we got well that's like what was it the snowman that we did where they just didn't shoot 15 % of the script and they just edited it together and it makes no sense.
23:17It really is a real... It's unfortunate in a way because there are some creatures like the crazy gorilla futuristic creatures I did think that they were really spooky and there were some shots when they revealed that they were all sleeping upside down Like bats? Like bats? Yeah. I thought that was genuinely scary and really creepy. Well, I thought this was a... Except Ed Burns is like, huh. Yeah. Yeah, he's like, just quiet down a bit. He's like, okay, we still got to get that. And we'll get out of here. Ed Burns. And they actually kept on flashing their flashlights at them. Constantly. I was like, stop.
23:53You're going to wake them up. That's what's going to wake them up. Ed Burns literally watches his friend sacrifice his life. And it looks like he's just trying to hear what he's saying. He's like, what is he saying? What is he saying? And I was like, can you throw a rock over there? Run! Run! He's biding time! Run! There's a woman in the movie who he knows because he promised her father he was going to take care of her. Oh, my God. She dies in front of him. And he's like, ugh. No, and at one point, he's got the worst justification. She's like, look, if you want to bring all these people back, we got to figure this shit out.
24:37That's why I'm not like, yeah, she died, but I'll figure it out later. Like, let's go. And this movie posits a world in which these eight people are the only eight people who can do any of this. Like, never once do they call smarter people, call the government, call other. And nobody. But nobody, it's like Ed Byrne, like the hunter and his crew are the only people who can solve the ice crisis. It seemed that what was happening, and I did think this was pretty creepy and scary, that what was happening is people were losing their minds. Yes. And so the civilians were just like panicked and shooting each other.
25:19That is true, yes. But I don't even understand why because - Because the thorns, the thorns. But to see the rate at which infrastructure collapsed. In 24 hours. Like, what is going on in this movie is, like, they are, all right. So, like, what the fuck happened in the past? They stepped on a butterfly and you're going to make me go, like, that makes monkey creatures, no buildings, poisonous. Like, it's, I get it. One small thing can affect everything. but let's make it a little bit bigger. I mean, you've created it. When they found the guy's shoe and flipped it over and that giant butterfly was on the underside, I was like, fuck you.
26:09I have watched children's shows. Peppa the Pig has more subtlety than this movie. I would rather, Caillou gets it better than this movie. All right, here's the things, some of the things I loved. I mean, fuck Caillou. They go to Ed Burns' house. By the way, this is when we get to finally see what happened to the actress from Love Actually. We see her character is continued here. When she seduces Ed Burns. I wish she had the necklace that Alan Rickman gave her. I really was. I was like, this is a continuation. In the future, she's figured out how. She's got the heart necklace on. Emma Thompson's listening to Joni Mitchell somewhere.
26:56Like a fucking queen. In her catfish face listening to Joni Mitchell. But no, in that moment when she visits his house to sex him, you see his house and it's 2055 and how do they show it's futuristic? He has clear moving boxes. Yeah. Ooh. Ooh. Like, I was like, what's the future like? In the future, moving boxes will be clear. Like, it's... I did think about it, though, and I was like, well, it's a pretty good idea, actually. See what's in there. But it wasn't even fully clear. Yeah, where's the kitchen stuff right there? Yeah, it's like, just move it over that corner there. All right, I'm wrong.
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27:41All right. The other thing that I love about this, the movie's trying so hard to try to show you cool future tech. And at one point, you find out that Ed Burns' character really wants to bring back animals. So he has a secret lab and a zoo. Animals are dunza. Except for fish. So I couldn't understand that. Wait, where do we see fish? The fish start beaching themselves. Yeah, that's one of the big stories. So I just didn't understand the ecosystem. There was some virus. If the ocean is thriving, we're all probably doing okay. and there should be, so I didn't quite understand the rules of... Oh, you didn't?
28:25The rules here... Consider yourself the only one here because we all get it totally. No, you're right. You're right. They did say that. I mean, here is one of the great explanations. This is a movie where even if you rewind it three times, you're like, I'm not sure what was said. like Star Trek jargon sounds better than this. All right, here. When you change something in the past, the future isn't affected all at once. Changes come in ripples, like dropping a stone into a pond. So you mean there'll be more of these? Oh, yeah. And they'll get bigger and bigger. All the changes in evolution that you affected, all of them will come in the waves.
29:05They'll start with climate, then vegetation, the early manifestations of life. Then come the more complex organisms. So what will happen in the last wave? It'll be us. We wave goodbye. The last wave changes the last species to evolve. Homo sapiens. God knows what we'll become. We may have no eyes. We may be sea creatures. We may not even exist at all. We don't have too many more waves before that one. Can we fix what we did? I don't know. Maybe. Now, okay, here's how that scene should be going. What the fuck? What the fuck? Can we fix it? Can we fucking fix it? Oh my God, what the fuck is this?
29:49What is this? We're fucked, we're fucked, we're fucked. Where are these plants coming from? How do you know all this? Oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. Where are my parents? Where are the people that I love? Can I protect them? Can I protect the people I love? Help me, help the world. He's like, I'll go one step further. can we fix it? Like he is reacting he's reacting like the way that you react when you're not sure if it had rained on you or maybe was that like an air conditioner? I don't know it feels like it might have where you go outside and you're like oh it's actually a little colder than I thought maybe I do maybe I do need a sweater but here is my issue my issue with this scientist and I know it's easy to poke holes in this movie but how the fuck does she know about these waves?
30:42It's never happened. Can we rewind just a little bit too? She literally plans out the whole movie but it's never happened. So like theoretically she's like, well... Or Paul, maybe it did. But then how would she remember it? Because he doesn't remember it. Maybe she videotaped it. Ooh. Okay, all of those people who are rummaging around, whatever, they should also be freaking out. Yeah. Everybody, they... No, they are so interested in vines. Maybe, maybe you could convince me that Ed Burns and the actress playing the doctor here, because they know what's going on, they are a little bit more like, what are we doing, what are we doing?
31:23Everybody else in the world should be like, what? What is happening? In fact, when I first saw this, I thought, oh, they're zombies. Like, they are, they've been, something's happened to them that's very bad. I think this is what happened to them. The director, Peter Himes, HDTGM alum, directed Time Cop, another time travel feature. They go, hey, Peter, we have four extras today. How do you want to use them? Keep them in frame. Just keep them in frame. They can't have them running. Because it's like the minute they run, they're off of frame. So it's like, mill, mill around. Everybody here is really contemplative.
32:04In the future, we contemplate. They're looking around there like it's an Easter egg hunt. They're just like... Keep in mind, they're in a green screen studio. They're looking at nothing. Zero. I mean, this movie is the first time that you see them walking, right? When they are walking, like you said, on the treadmill there. I mean, this is, to me, one of... Right? Like, we see a little bit of Chicago. And by the way, you're nice for saying they're on a treadmill. I just thought they were just walking in place. If you look at them, they look like they're walking in place. Oh, my God.
32:49And this is walking in place. And he's better at it than she is. What I love about this, too, is the little, like, they didn't have enough money to finish CGI. but as they're walking in the cityscape you get to see some fun little things that the graphic designers added in I'll show you one coming up in just one second I think it's right here it's a 7-eleven and then it's in the 7-eleven it says let's see hold on cannabis but it's so like I can make this I'm terrible at Photoshop it's like it's just like block font that just says cannabis. And it's just like, I don't even know if it's a... I can't read it from here.
33:36Yeah, it says cannabis. That's all. Oh, wow. And it says pay for two, take one. Oh, Cabanis. Cabanis. C-A-B-A-N-I-S. Cabanis, which I think is probably a brand of cannabis. Which is, or it's future cannabis. But this to me is the like again. They didn't even have time to spell check the graphics in the background. No, prints. The funny graphics. Ed Burns must have seen this and been like motherfucker. Ed Burns not lit. Right here, no light on his face. He's walking in broad daylight outside in Chicago. The lighting in general, it's a dark movie. Yes. There are lots of times where I couldn't quite see what was going on.
34:29Well, this hat, too, this poor woman is saddled with a giant hat. She's wearing an Amy Sherman Palladino-level hat that is preposterous. You know, they do this, I mean, to men and women, but, like, they really want to make it clear he doesn't want to fuck her. Like, don't worry, she's got that hat on. There's no way. And then he says, I promised your father that I would take care of you. You're not a sexual object. You're a hat. So I'm not going to fuck you. Yeah. But he's still dressed like it's Matt. He's dressed like 2005. Watch his reaction when she dies. If that is his reaction, this is the woman that he's supposed to take care of, right?
35:08Watch this moment here. He promised her father. And it's as simple as this. Take the deepest breath of your life, and then we'll go for it. All right? Okay. Just. Look at how calm they are. Give me a second, okay? You would be shitty.
35:27And the subway car fills up with water. Que sera, sera. Back to normal. No reaction. Let's go. Let's go. He says, let's go. His first reaction is, all right. He doesn't mourn her. Plan's still on. He doesn't mourn her at all. By the way, I would love to believe, like, in your reading, Paul, which is that he assumes he will see her again because he's going to fix this. But it doesn't feel that way in the moment. It really doesn't. No, he's like one less person. One less person. If the movie ended with, like, if the movie ended with him taking VR goggles off and the whole thing was a game he'd been playing, it would make more sense.
36:14A game that took place in 1989. Yeah, for how casual he treats the human lives of the people that he both loves and the people that are his team. Now, I will say the person who brings in a lot of energy is Ben Kingsley. Ben Kingsley is doing, honestly, some of the best work of his career. Yes, Sir Ben. SBK. Sir Ben comes in, and I'm going to have a theory here. He's so good in this. I know the wig is doing some work for Sir Ben. like that white wig is great but I also felt and tell me if you think I'm crazy I'll play this clip I think he's channeling Robin Williams like there's an energy to him that I feel like I don't know why I was looking at him I feel like this could have been a Robin Williams part I don't know you think it could have been a Robin Williams part yeah I don't know by the time I'm done suing you I'm going to own this joint but you're right Mr.
37:13Middleton I understand you're upset but I say to you look beyond your immediate feelings look at what you achieved today I almost achieved getting eaten and you weren't since we've been in business countless clients have jumped back through time faced the allosaurus and gone home trembling and proud that they cheated dead doesn't he have like a similar Robin Williams there's a cadence it's like a later Robin Williams kind of performance style Okay, two things about that. He has a reaction shot. It's not in this scene. It's in the party scene where one of the clients is, I think, questioning what happened on one of the excursions.
37:54And his reaction, he's doing full clown work, and it's some of the funniest things I've ever seen. Second thing, what happened early on in the movie when one of the guns fell in the lab area and something oozed out of it. Oh, I can tell you. Okay, what was that? Okay, so one of the guys dropped like a nitrogen thing. Yes. He's loading up. He's part of the team and he loads up the nitrogen containers. Yeah, fine. So it falls and he's like, oh, shit. Okay, he gets it and he puts it in. Okay, but it's leaking. And it leaks nitrogen onto Ed Burns' gun. So that's why he can't shoot it. And Ed Burns' gun is the safety for all the other guns.
38:39so they can only shoot when he can shoot. But do you think that they would do a check of the guns before they did? They said that they did, but that it didn't work anyway. They do try and exposition themselves out of it, but it is dumb. It is so dumb. But where does that... In terms of the butterfly, what does that give us exactly? Well, the idea is... That gives us the period of time. It gives us the period of time when he can't shoot, he has to distract the dinosaur, she distracts the dinosaur, and those two guys run off and hide, these two dummies. They run off and hide, and one of them steps on the butterfly.
39:21And that's what sets the rest of the movie in motion. And why are they on this moving walkway? like so this time travel the time travel thing that they do it's like not only does it like time transport you but it also shoots out like a like a pirate ship-esque blank that seemingly goes on for a very long time I had questions about that too because they were like don't step off the path or whatever they call it like so did they install that and wouldn't that be the butterfly effect but I think that that is a projection of their time, like it comes out, but once it hits the ground or even hovers of it, above it, I mean, I'm also just so confused because the volcano looks so far away and when they go back at one point, they're like, it's exploding.
40:16Run, run. It's like, well, that's not going to get there that quick. I mean. It'll get there pretty quick. You think it'll get there that quick? If you've seen the Werner Herzog volcano documentary, Into the Inferno. Oh, okay. There is footage of volcano shit that is terrifying. Oh, wow. Good to know. Good to know. Also, an incredible watch. I just felt like it was so far away. I felt the same way. All right, but I'll take that. And honestly, thank God. Just if you haven't watched the movie, their whole theory is we're going to a spot in time where the dinosaur is going to get trapped in the swamp and the volcano is going to come and kill it anyway.
40:56Right, and then we're going to shoot it with our ice bullets So we leave no trace. So we basically are just, we're basically putting a dinosaur out of its misery because he's already going to be, it's like a rat in a glue trap. He's going to be stuck in there. Wow. Guess who's coming to dinner? I'm Wallace Shawn. Did you audition for this role? I am pissed off. And they say that my... Do you have your audition tape? Yeah. Rawr. Rawr.
41:32The, the, there is, thank you. Don't clap for that. But there are these moments in logic that make no fucking sense. There's a moment where bugs are infiltrating this woman's apartment. So many bugs. That was terrifying. And he goes, step on this bag. Why? Like the bag is. Well, she did, and then they crawled right up on it. Right? And then... I wanted to tell them, like, go out there. You're standing right next to a door. Go behind the door and close it. It was, yeah. Instead, he sprays, like, I don't know, some sort of chemical, and he's like, or water maybe or something, whatever, that clears the path, and he's like, go out the door, go out the door.
42:16Then the thing is going to explode. The tanks are going to explode. they jump off the balcony of a skyscraper without a second thought. They don't think for a second and they land on a plant. Well, yeah, that plant. They knew that plant was going to be out there. Plants are everywhere at that point. And are literally like, huh, okay. Dude, and she goes, her line is, this tree wasn't here yesterday. By the way, these are the people I want to be with in a moment of tragedy. I want to be like, all right, let's see. She does say that it's not smart for her to panic, which I appreciate. By the way, you would say that this is the way that I react to certain things, right?
42:55It's true. You underreact to crisis. It's very unsettling. Every five minutes in this movie. I got Ed Burns' character. All right, we'll deal with it. We'll figure it out. Every five minutes in this movie, something happens to the main characters that should... Oh. That should melt their brains. I do feel like a movie like this, it's like reverse Jaws, because in Jaws, wasn't it like they lost their budget? Swatch? Swatch, yeah.
43:25It's just a Swatch scenario. Because in Jaws, they realize, oh shit, the shark looks bad. So what we'll do is we'll make it scarier by not showing them. But in this movie, it's like, oh shit, we don't have the money. Let's show everything. like they never hesitate to show everything in broad daylight nothing is hidden nothing is like there's nothing in rain there's nothing at night all the tricks to make bad special effects a little bit more obfuscated they don't use my favorite my favorite bad special effect and this makes no sense when she when Ed Burns is showing his his secret zoo laboratory off he's talking and then all of a sudden you see a fucking like lion walking down a hallway.
44:14Like gung, gung, gung, gung. And like I think as an audience member, you're supposed to be like, oh shit, he's in a zoo. A lion's coming. Ooh. But no, it's a CGI creation or like a VR version of a lion. And then I'm like, why was it coming from the hallway? Or just have it pop up. Yeah, like he has a table. And I'd be like, this is what I'm working on. Right, because that's where he is on that table. Like the lion walks in from the other room to sit on the projection table. Why are we, the camera and the audience, with the lion? And it is a hologram, so where is the light source? I mean, something should be...
44:58It's 2055. Yeah, they figured that out. But then, my favorite part of... We live in a world where there are clear moving boxes. Yeah. I think we can... We got light sources everywhere. Don't worry about it. All right. All right. Again, I stand corrected. It's a swatch problem. We've mastered transparent cardboard, Paul.
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49:03What was the issue? Yeah. They wasn't like, oh, the machine's broken. Right. Until it was. Until it was. Because of plants? The minute that fucking plant jumps up. I think all of Act 2, the real villain is plants. It's like that M. Night movie where the villain was trees at the end. I mean, this is, I mean, we've talked about, I mean, this is M. Night dealt with this too, right? There's a movie where trees are the villains in his movie as well. Is that right? That's the Mark Wahlberg movie. Is this a shared universe? Trees are bad. Guys, trees are fucking us. But I mean, they truly are fighting against nature, right?
49:44The idea is that if this one butterfly lives, the world is destroyed. It becomes like this giant, you know, humans take over, animals die. But if you kill us one butterfly, nature takes over. We don't evolve? I think so. But I think they're also trying to say, like, you live in a world without animals, without nature. He, like, they don't have this stuff. So the change means like the world is now overrun with animals and nature and plants and trees and all this stuff because the world doesn't do a good job setting it up. But he seems to be his altruistic belief is I'm going to bring back animals.
50:31Right. Right. That's why he's a good guy, not like a piece of shit. Yeah, because he doesn't like his job. No, because I think he thinks his job is allowing him to gather the DNA. But he's only going to the same spot over and over and over again. So he got the DNA. You got it. Yes, he got it already. But it also seems to me like that DNA, he should have used that somehow to figure this all out in the end. I was waiting for us to come back to that lab and have that DNA somehow create something else. By the way, I'm also like, if I'm paying, I don't know, whatever 2055 gangster money is to go on this adventure, I would want more than five minutes.
51:14That's shorter than a Disney we're in ride. To go back in time? Really? I mean, all they do is this is what they do. Hey, get your guns. Here we go. There it is. Shoot them. God, all right, see home. Like, that's the thing. But if I said to you tomorrow, we can travel back in time. I would say, but this is what I would say. Yes. Can I look around for a half an hour? No. Can I like, no. They come out. They literally come out of the tunnel. Get your guns. Get your guns. There it is. Bang. Okay. Everybody back. Get back before the volcano. It's like, just give me a month. Let me take it in. It seems like.
51:52You get a nice video at the end and you, I think, can keep the costume that you wore. You can keep that costume? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I guess he did get to keep his costume. Everybody gets to keep that. Everybody gets to keep their costume. And you can look back and re-watch it as many times as long. What did he do with those boots that he did? I guess he took the boots off and put them in a bag because that butterfly stayed on through walking through the streets of Chicago like that. I mean, that was really... Yeah. Things we haven't mentioned. Tammy. Oh, Tammy. Tammy, a character... Tammy's the reason for the season.
52:29A character in the movie who is like, who should be incredibly powerful as an ally, but they barely use. Tammy is the computer. Like the AI or whatever. And it's an acronym that stands for Time Alteration Manipulator Interface, which is an acronym that is as simple as this movie to understand. What happens to Ben Kingsley? Right? He dies. They show him dead. Oh, God, I must have missed that. We have him for one day, one outfit, same two sets. Okay? And that's all we got. Because he is doing the same two sets. It's like, it's the champagne room. They're like, okay, take the blood off, everybody.
53:11All right, Ben, you stay in the same costume. We're not going to get blood on you. Let's bring in the next guys to do all of his close-ups. Ben's got to get out of here in 45 minutes. He's got a birthday party. He's got to go. We got to get him out. Like, I think that that's all he did. And by the way, he brought it. He brought it in this short period of time. I'm just looking at my notes. And the number of times that I've just written the words, future taxis. I don't know why. I seem to have been obsessed with that. Because I wrote it a lot. Also, the TRD, the Time Regulation, TRC, Time Regulation Commission or something like that.
53:47Why aren't they part of this? Like, where is, where is, like, why is Ben Kingsley and this private storefront time travel organization. Which seems to be so expensive, you wouldn't need it to be on the ground level. Like, it's not for the common person. Like, that's why I want to see more adventures. It's like, if you're doing this. That's what retail's going to look like, though. I guess so. I guess you're right. I guess so. Everybody is so boring. Everybody in this world is boring. I know, and I wanted kind of a chemistry between the two of them, between Ed Burns and the scientist, like give me something.
54:25Well I like him and the girl from anybody. The girl from Love Actually is the only one that's kind of bringing this sex appeal. Like I don't even know why she wants to fuck him but she was dumb. I have no idea why she wants to fuck him. I thought she was a part of the team. Well everybody acts like he is like the hunkiest famousest guy in the world. And it's like so interesting it's like he is a good looking guy but God there's nothing coming off him. Every line he has in the movie could have been replaced with him just going oh nuts uh we don't have the oh nuts cut yes are you telling me everyone's dead oh nuts well there is though honestly he's just been put on hold when the guy when they go to the guy the guy who stepped on the butterfly they go to his apartment because they need to know what was it that happened to change the world.
55:24So they go to his apartment. This man has a loaded gun. And he's firing it at them. Right? What? I said people have gone crazy. Yeah, people have gone crazy. Because of? Because of the thorns. Which is another layer we don't need. The true villain of the movie, thorns. Nature. This is a movie where the good guys defeat nature. He's like, nature, get the fuck back. You get back underground. Animals, get out of here. Big buildings, space taxis, that's what we got. That's what we're rooting for. We're rooting for them to get back to shitty future. And Ed Burns seems convinced. It's as if Ed, I'm sorry, this is what it's like.
56:11It's as if Ed Burns in every scene, the guy's shooting guns at him and everything's crazy and he's like, it's okay, I read the script. It's gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah. We on Act 1 and we on Act 1? Yeah, this is why it's scary in Act 1. But Act 3 is going to be better. It's going to be better in Act 3. And honestly, a part of me wonders if he couldn't handle her character being the one that's calm and having the knowledge and being placating and if he just took on that energy. Yes, perhaps. But he also, I think, is trying to play the Han Solo hero, the kind of aw shucks like I guess I gotta fix it all kind of thing which is because everybody is treating him like he's the sexiest most desirable rogue or something and that's not the case here's another thing why doesn't he remember right because we're talking about these fucking time ripples that take like 24 hours to hit but when they stop it and he doesn't jump back wouldn't it take 24 hours to go backwards wouldn't it be like reverse time ripples like bruh-lum bruh-lum bruh-lum and then we'd be back.
57:19Oh, interesting. It just flips back so he would remember for at least two or three time ripples before everything went back to normal again. Like, ideally, we were led into this world with ripples. We would go backwards with the ripples. I don't... Yeah, you're right. I'm looking at it from a scientific point of view. Which, by the way, would have given us more of what I wanted, which is the love story of Ed Burns and the fish lady. Hey, so you're a fish. It's the shape of water. I love that movie.
57:57Do you? I really love that movie. Yeah. I feel like I was the only person who, I only watched it once. I could not get over Sally Hawkins' performance. I think it's a beautiful, 90 % sure you fell asleep in it. I did. I watched, yes, I did. I'm not calling you out. I believe that you saw it. And I watch the way that you sleep. And sometimes you will say to me, you have been asleep for a long time. And I'll turn the TV volume down. You're like, I'm watching that. I'm like, you clearly are not. You have spoken to it. Or I'm listening to it. You're listening. Because your eyes are closed. but you think you're listening and paying attention.
58:49I'm sorry. Is listening to a medium so shitty? Is that the worst thing you can do? I'm saying you are dead asleep. Like, should I tell him what happened last night or is that too personal? Yeah, go ahead.
59:06June had been gone. Out. I was actually asleep here. Like hardcore sleep. I was getting ready to go to bed and I turned off the TV. which had been off. It just had the screensaver on, right? So I was like, clicked it off. And June goes, I'm watching that.
59:26And I said, the screensaver? And to which she replied, yeah. Do you mind if I watch more? And I go, you're asleep. And she's like, I'm watching it. Give me the remote. And then I passed her the remote. to which she put on her chest, did not turn the TV back on, and went right back to sleep. That's right.
1:00:00Yes. And was mad at me when I laughed that she was watching it because nothing had been on for an hour. I mean, I still might have been watching the TV. In case someone steals it? I just feel you're so quick to turn it off, to take away my pleasures. It's like, just let me have my things, you know? I left it on. I worked so hard during the day. I was reading. I left it on on watching the moon, the beautiful moon or whatever fucking cityscape is on Apple TV that changes because I download it automatically. It's no big deal. All right, so by the way, Pierce Brosnan was going to make this movie with Rennie Harlan, but Rennie Harlan was fired because Ray Bradbury didn't like his creative decisions, which means that...
1:00:57He did like this? Yes. So, God knows. Anyway, we have questions, but we know that you might have some questions. Whatever it is, we want you to fact check us, bring it to our attention. Whatever it is, let us know. Raise your hand if you have something. Okay, great. Yeah, stand up so we can hear you good, nice and clear. Here we go. What's your name? Patrick. Patrick, what is your question? Wouldn't the volcano have also just killed the butterfly anyway? Great question. Wouldn't, great question. Wouldn't the volcano... But yes, the answer is yes. But I guess in... That's how it's supposed to happen, though.
1:01:35But in the millisecond that they killed it before the volcano went off, that's when all the shit goes down? Correct. What could have happened in that time? History has changed irrevocably. All right. Great question. Great question. You're an idiot. Ray Bradbury didn't have a problem with it. Yeah. In the back there. Yes. Yeah. Look this up. The dinosaur that was in the movie was like 80 million years off from the time it actually went to. Alice was 165 million years ago and the movie was 65 million years ago. so they didn't even do the research to figure out what dinosaur it is. That is amazing.
1:02:14And again, I would say, great, thank you for that. They did not do the right research, but again, I would say they just took the Toy Story dinosaur. They didn't really... But for this guy who started his thing by being like, I did the research, don't bother. Like, use your time better. In the back, we have two in the back. Yeah, great. So, it's been a long time, but I read this short story in school. Oh, great. So all the waves and all that shit they made up for this movie, it's basically, if I remember correctly, the thing that changes is when they get back, the equivalent of the Nazi party is in charge of America.
1:02:52That old chestnut, yep. He's right, they use the wrong dinosaur. It's also, it's supposed to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex, which is the great thunder lizard, the sound of thunder. Oh! See, this guy gets it. All right, yes, back there. So there's a point where they show the humans, they're the last point of the time wave, right? Yes. They show them turn into these, like, fish people? Yeah, the catfish lady. But the buildings are still there. Well, this is my issue with the whole thing. I don't understand, like, well, when would the buildings? Like, it's as if the time ripples, like, they don't. Okay, so my understanding is, to your point, sir, about reading the Ray Bradbury story, that one moment would forever change everything going forward.
1:03:47So there would never have been a building. It would just be an underwater world of catfish people, right? Like that would be what we would be in. But this movie says it does it in phases, but it seems like the phases just work around the pre-existing infrastructure that we have. So it would never be a fully realized future. So it would just be this bastardization. Like, it would be like catfish people living in skyscrapers next to taxi cars that are covered in vines. That's the movie I want to watch. I want to watch the movie where the time wave comes and Ed Burns falls in love with Catfish Lady.
1:04:24Like, show me that movie. This movie makes no sense, and I hate it. Anyone feel like they've got a really great one? Yes, you have two. Yeah, let's go. Yes, you can go. I'll let you both go. So it's the part of the movie where they see the big, like, future monkeys that are chasing people. Yeah. And then they get in the car and the bats attack them. And then they go to a place where it's really dark and there's something on the ceiling. And they look up. But it's the monkeys, not the bats. Right. Why was it the monkeys? Right, why weren't the... Because they got to keep you guessing, bro. I also was confused about why the monkeys all went to attack one person.
1:05:06There seemed to be about 50 monkeys eating one about 175 pound man. Well, also, if I'm Ed Burns and my buddy is there and he's about to get like mauled by all the... Shoot him. Oh, yeah. Put him out of his... Shoot him now. I was really upset about that. I thought that that's where we were headed. Of course, because he stays behind to watch him. Oh, he's going to kill him. Well, but if he shot him with that ice bullet, we saw what that ice bullet does. It decimates. Like, he would basically be taking away this... That's better than being torn apart. No, you gotta keep the... It's bait. It would be like giving a dog a biscuit, but stomping on it before.
1:05:44Like, you gotta... They gotta eat that full biscuit. What? Next question. You're talking about that man like he's a dog biscuit? that's what he was to that monkey he was a dog biscuit if i'm at burns i'm like at least let me stop my friend yes uh wow
1:06:22oh i love this yeah there's a ben kingsley i appreciate that was a joint question too. Yes, I like that it was a we. We noticed. We noticed. We noticed that. I appreciate it. We get it. You're in a couple. I got it. Everybody else. We get it. You found love. What I do think is so funny about this champagne tower. Alright, so look at this champagne tower. The champagne tower in the movie. We did this together. We found. The champagne tower is for a giant party of people. Each time it seems like two people go. Like, how many people are fucking drinking champagne? And then I think I remember even, like, Ed Burns bringing a champagne bottle in?
1:07:09Like, there's too much. No, the champagne tower also seems to be so bottom heavy. Like, it feels like they're missing a layer. because if you're taking champagne from the bottom, there should be more on that second layer. There's 22 glasses on the bottom level, 22 on the bottom, five above that. So 22, five, three, and one. Because what I hope is that no one who is going over there to get champagne is taking from that second level. This is a Jenga scenario. Oh, my goodness. Well, obviously, we answered every question there is imaginable about a sound of thunder. But you know what? We might have been too hard on it.
1:08:02There might be people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Now. What would you do for this movie's review? Would you rate it appropriately? Lizard baboon's airtight plot, Kingsley's hair, and all this super realistic CG. Now it's time for some second opinions. Made 12 years after Jurassic Park. Time for some second opinions. This movie lost millions of dollars. Time for some second opinions. Oh, wow. Home run. Home run. Two home runs. Great work. Great work, L.A. Bringing it. My only note, you should have mentioned those taxis, bro. All right. Here we are. A Sound of Thunder, second opinions.
1:09:07There are a lot of positive reviews here. No, there aren't. I'll start off with J.H.J. Review. It says, what a fun movie to watch. I use this to help teach the butterfly effect. To who? The title? Perfect film for English class. Five stars. So, there you go. Your children are doomed. Take your school, get them out of that school. This one's written by... Can you imagine your kids coming home from school and being like, we watched something called A Sound of Thunder? I will tell you that my... When I was a kid, you could get... Here we go. Uh-oh. Spotlight. You could get, you know, you could tape pay-per-view movies and you could have them on a VHS.
1:10:01And my teacher was always trying to take my VHSs of my pay-per-viewed movies. And she's like, oh, you know, what do you have? What have you been watching? Can I borrow them? And... Wait.
1:10:17I'm going to stop you there, Paul. What was the nature of your relationship with this teacher? What do you have? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? You holding VHS? What do you got? You got Betamax? What do you got? She was a cooler, younger teacher. Oh, God. And she saw that I had this. So she would always come up to me like, hey, can I borrow Ferris Bueller's Day Off? And I was like, all right, sure. and then but I was nervous about giving my VHS my you know because I taped this off a paper view I don't want to lose it you know I was nervous about giving it to my teacher are these the videos that your dad would erase the nudity out of oh yeah sure definitely I mean those are part of the yeah armed and dangerous was the one that he did that one for which doesn't even really have nudity so um I just want to point out you've told a story in which your relationship with an adult is deeply problematic
1:11:16Never, never will end It will never end And talking about deeply problematic This last review I tried to I tried to figure out Where to start and end it And I don't know where And I'm just, bear with me here It's written by Pierce And Pierce Yes And who did not get the part So it goes like this. This movie really hit the spot for me. It was refreshing seeing CGI used in this fashion. I would hope that what I'm talking about when it comes to how a movie is phenomenologically placed in a society, that it's being done in a certain fashion that's aesthetically common. and boring with the aspect ratio being ultra high def where it feels like you are on an acid trip throughout the whole movie.
1:12:19That's how I feel when I watch every movie. The more fantastical, the more acidic the trip is. I decided to travel into yada, yada, yada, mainstream this and mainstream that. In a mainstreamly rare way in which I believe that movies are the gateway to the next dimension. Through the occult, as above, so below, this movie was a movie. I loved it. And it hit a real nice, sweet spot for me in science fantasy. The title, Phenomenologically Placed Gem, the society whom is used to everything being done in certain fashion and aesthetically common and boring way. Five stars.
1:13:28Well read. I was really nervous reading it, but that's how it is written. and Sound of Thunder came out in 2005. It's an hour and 50 minutes. It has a six on Rotten Tomatoes, but an 18 % for the audience score. The budget was 80 million. It was cut to 30. The opening gross was opening weekend. They open up the paper, 2005. How much did it make? $917 ,000. Domestic gross, 1.9 million. Wow. Worldwide gross, 11 million. These are the top three movies of 2005. Star Wars, Episode III, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and War of the Worlds. The fact that those movies exist at the same time as this is insane.
1:14:21You know, like we said, Peter Himes, great director, made one of my favorite movies, Running Scared, but also made Time Cop, Sudden Death, End of Days, and The Musketeer. Another problem, besides the budget being cut for this movie, there were severe floods in the Czech Republic. So all the sets were damaged. The crew was constantly scrambling for high ground and moving sets and equipment to safety. They had to move out of their hotels as the water arose because their accommodations were red-tagged. So maybe, maybe Ed Burns is reacting so nonchalantly because he is living it already. He goes to set to just sort of like relax.
1:15:08Jason, June. He's like, what, you want me to walk on a green screen? Great. Yeah, he's like, who is? Because my hotel room flooded last night. I can calm down. All my personal objects are gone, but, you know, I wish I could see what I had. I have all these fucking cardboard boxes. Would you recommend this film? No. I would not. No. No, this was a real bummer. Yeah. we didn't even talk about like the just prolonged chase scenes that are kind of like it's just boring yeah it's the the the quest goals are pointless we have to go to this guy's apartment to see if he changed the past no we have to go to this guy's apartment to see if he changed the past so none of it really is satisfying so the answer is watch it if you're listening to the podcast watch it to see what we're talking about but don't watch the whole movie you gotta watch it for the CGI it is honestly some of the worst like the best worst CGI I've ever seen in a movie that has like Sir Ben Kingsley and Ed Burton in a movie that has like real actors in a real setting this feels like a like a Neil Breen movie or something like that it needs to be seen and yeah so for that I would say definitely take a little fast forward to it but watch it it doesn't go down easy, it's long it's very long anyway that is all for tonight a big thank you to Alec in the booth Devin in the booth our producer Molly Reynolds our producer Cody Fisher our researcher Nate Kiley and of course our movie picking producer Averill Halley.
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Ed Burns and Sir Ben Kingsley travel to the past on a time safari in A Sound of Thunder—a Ray Bradbury adaptation that might have the worst CGI in film history. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, Paul, Jason, and June discuss all the ludicrous time travel logic, how everyone in this world should be losing their minds, the incredible energy Sir Ben Kingsley brings to his scenes, and the reason why this movie was released with unfinished special effects. Watch out for those thorns everyone! (Ep. #292 Originally Released 05/05/2022)
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