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23:13Jason Mantzoukas:I would say that even when Chili is trying to be charming, there's something unnerving about him when he's in the kitchen eating the roast beef. This is a world in which everybody's clocking the roast beef. and when the girl comes in to get some post-shower roast beef ooh I just I feel so nice and clean now let me just chow down on some roast beef and she even holds it up and it looks like prop food that has been left around for a long time terrible but he smiles at her like I wrote down like the golden steak killer just like oh yes it's open mouth like like maybe fangs will come out now i will murder you he's hiding that last piece of roast beef that she's like oh i thought there was roast beef and he's like and he just looks to the side and like shoves a bunch in his mouth really fast it was off-putting it was very off i would say that everything sexual in this movie is off-putting every kiss every Well, we'll get to the sex scene.

24:25Jason Mantzoukas:I like the break dance sex scene. I'm glad you brought this up in relation to the roast beef scene. Because right before, there is a questionable exchange between this chick and her brother. Oh. Who yanks her out of the bathroom by her towel. It was a little weird. What do you mean? There's a lot. Listen, there's a lot that's problematic about chili. I mean, and by the way, the way he's handled is so, the character of Chili is so upsetting because he's a violent man. And he is. He's a violent man. He is unhinged as a person. Sorry to skip ahead, but in one of the last scenes when he's getting the other Claire off the stage, I mean, he's physically just intimidating her and is aggressive toward her.

25:15She has to leave. he just picks her up and like holds her really tight threatens to hurt her physically and she tosses her I mean it is this is not this is not a good person this is just not a good person but at least he's got talent

25:34Jason Mantzoukas:nope

25:39but truly he's a homophobic misogynist like and by the way the movie doesn't deal with that on any level. And let's just take the homophobia out of the equation for now, but just even his treatment of women throughout the movie is so terrible. And the way women, I mean, Darlene has no standards.

26:07And is treated like shit throughout. He does nothing to redeem himself to her. And I mean nothing. Or his friends. He's a bad person to her, to his friends. He is selfish and not generous to literally anybody in the movie.

26:27Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I would argue that in these movies, and I go back to Cocktail and Staying Alive, both of those characters have similar journeys. They want to get somewhere, they get somewhere, they become dicks, and then they come back to their life. Well, Staying Alive is a little different. But there's an element of charm to all of these people. And Chili seems to be the side character that you're like, he should not be, like, the lead should not be hanging out with Chili. But Chili is the lead. It's like the movie should have been about someone else who just had a little bit more of a heart of gold. Chili is like the bad influence friend.

27:02Yeah.

27:02Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, Chili gets a little bit too much screen time. Because even, like, when they show him, I mean, I don't even understand why he's with Darlene. That whole relationship, I don't get what either. And why can't Darlene join Body Rock? She works at the hospital. She's got shit going on. And there's some great ADR done in the hospital scene. Replacing fuck, I believe, with screw. They had to get this down to a PG-13. I think I have that scene in the hospital, which is a great one here. Here we go. Darlene, are you going to have a break soon? I need to talk to you. Why don't you just go talk to your little freak?

27:45What little freak?

27:46Jason Mantzoukas:Or the rich girl. What rich girl? The blonde, shall we?

27:54How do you know about Claire? That's it. Just go and talk to Claire. Darlene, that ain't no big thing. You know, I think that's your problem. We don't even really talk. You just screw.

28:11basically. Why don't you just go screw her and talk to yourself? Or if that doesn't do it for you, why don't you just go talk to her and go screw yourself?

28:23Jason Mantzoukas:Three screw yourselves. And then she really came around just because he grabbed her off stage. I mean, why did she come around? Why did any of them take him back any time? He never owns his selfish mistakes. He never apologizes. there is nothing about his actions that tell me he deserves he literally is thrown out of the anyway whatever but like he jumps down out of the rafters and is like I'm here and everybody is like what? we love him now and it's like no he's a villain I'm pretty sure Chili is a villain for all of you he's hurt all of your lives they're like you get in and then you can bring us all up and he's like yes and then he brings nobody up then he takes the victory for himself and is like, but I'm going to pull everybody up and everybody's like, alright, I'm in.

29:13Never remembers to put them on a list. That's literally the least he can do.

29:19Jason Mantzoukas:But by the way, let's talk about this list for a club because what is this club? No idea. This is like Sleep No More style dance numbers that I don't know where the stage is at certain points. This is the largest club that has ever existed. At one point they go up a giant escalator to another floor and then they're like in a private area of the club that's also the size of two stages and the stage where they do the dance routines they don't they don't have dancers like on stage dancing to music they have like performance pieces in black light with like tunnels and tubes but that's what I'm saying like where is his audience it's like are you chasing it like sleep no more are you running around following the dancing because he literally walks into a the crowd is hey it's chilly then he runs down a tunnel and then the dance numbers are like where did he go?

30:11Jason Mantzoukas:Like that's the club. That would be like if I just ran backstage and like I'm doing the podcast and I ran out to the parking lot. It would not, it would be upsetting to you. Now listen, would I like to go to a club like that? Yeah, I would. I liked, I did like the giant boom box. Like it had set design. I thought it was terrific. There is some real, you know, stage value and performance happening. I've never seen anything like it. How much are they flipping it? How many days is the giant boom box there and they go, oh, we got a new thing. Mummies. Great. I would like to believe that every night it is a new theme, completely new performance.

30:54They're putting a lot of work in. Listen, the one performance I really loved was the skeleton piece.

31:00Jason Mantzoukas:That I thought was great. Amazing. I agree 100%. He himself didn't contribute much to it. He, not a thing. No, as a matter of fact, you were... Marched in place. Yeah, like, well, the director of this movie is a music video director. As a matter of fact, this is the only movie he ever directed. And now it all makes sense. Come on, are you serious? You know, and he directed videos for Bon Jovi and Motley Crue. So I believe that he did capture the dancing well and probably is the reason why the movie opens with two back-to-back musical numbers without any dialogue. A very bold move not to introduce your characters until you're about seven or eight minutes into the film.

31:43Jason Mantzoukas:Talking about all the negative stuff about Chili, we can be here all day, but there's one person that we love. I think we all love magic. Magic. I knew you were going to say magic. And I would argue, Jason, that this is where we see the redeeming side of Chili in his friendship with a young child. Okay. Or you could argue that he is stealing Magic's talent, passing it off as his own to marginalize Magic. Magic doesn't teach him his signature moves. He only teaches him the easy stuff. That's the basics, that's true. But this is what's so weird about Terrence and the other investor. Oh, Donald? Donald?

32:24Donald? Donald Trump? Don't do drugs in here, Donald. Just don't do drugs in here, Donald. I'm certain that character is based on Donald Trump. Okay, because Donald fascinates me, and we could be here all night to just discuss Donald, but what's so interesting is that they're not interested in magic. Yeah. Why do they see that show and not want only magic out of everything they know?

32:46Jason Mantzoukas:Now, here's my thought about that, because when they go to see him at the breakdancing club, Magic's brothers are seemingly in, and I'm going to say a biker gang, because they are dressed like a biker gang people, and they're so into their little brother magic that they're just bouncing the bottles on the bar and then they break. And when they break those bottles, they go immediately into a handshake. And I think that that frightened those guys off. They're like, oh, they broke those bottles. These people are too rowdy. We gotta go. Yeah. I have a quick point to make now that you brought up of the slamming down of those bottles and this first performance, which was really my only problem with the movie.

33:26for a movie about music and dancing. Is it? Dancing? No. It was especially lacking in rhythm. People are off beat so much of this movie. Most notably Chili, the first time he tries to rap sing and introduce the Body Rock crew. It's so off. And I would argue that those guys are also slightly off beat as they're trying to clang along.

33:56Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I mean, the rapping in this movie is amazing. I would like to play that... The first one? The second rap one, because I feel like that's where he's kind of like... Yeah, sorry, where he's introducing the crew. Here we go. Raise your hands up high and shout it out loud. I say, yeah. Yeah! I say, yeah. Yeah! I say, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I say, hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. And now I'm going to introduce to you another member of the Body Rock crew. He's been with us since he was 17. He's lean, he's mean, he's a rock machine. Like I have it with my wrist, it's up around my neck. I'm gonna snap my back to the line.

34:29He's not on beat. Jack with the best breakdown on the rest of the J-A-M-A. That's all I got.

34:34Jason Mantzoukas:I'm going to pause it for two seconds. It's to break down these first two performances. So, Chili, thoughts? Again, not on beat. What is happening? To me, this is what it reads as. Like, I've done my share of musical theater, not to brag. June, you were what? What did you do? Name the roles. I did Sweet Charity. I did Fiddler on the Roof. You need more? Can we get a taste? Can we get a taste? Well, what I was going to say, absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's not the time or the place. No, no, no. But I will say there's something called a marking rehearsal, which is like, I'm going to give nothing.

35:17like I'm gonna give you nothing right now and I'm gonna mark I'm gonna like walk the beats here I go, seven and eight you haven't lost a step yes but it's like I mean I can do better than that

35:30Jason Mantzoukas:the marking rehearsal is just like let's just get our marks let's go through the motions of what this is going to look like that's what this is this is just a marking it's like oh these are the words this is sort of the rhythm and we're going to go through it. Even if it is, it's unsuccessful. Totally. But that's all, this is the finished product though. Like this is where they said, got it moving on. Yes. Like moving on to the next thing. The one where Lorenzo Lamas is never on beat and the guy that comes in second is not on mic. Yes, but the guy who comes in second who actually can rap and is seemingly doing something amazing, I can't hear a word he's saying.

36:15I have no idea what's happening.

36:16Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I would also argue here that this whole movie feels like, they're like, who could we get? They went through a list of names. They landed on Lorenzo Lamas. And he's like, but I don't breakdance and I don't rap. And they're like, don't worry about it. We're going to write for you. We will surround you with those people. We will make you look good. We will do it all. And then he gets to the scene. He's like, you know, I just feel uncomfortable. I feel uncomfortable committing. He's like, just talk it. Just talk it. Be like the Rock and Moana. Just get through that song. Just do it. And by the way, I like that song a lot.

36:45Jason Mantzoukas:I like it a lot. It's a good song. But it's like, just like, let's do that. But you can't, like, talk through rap. It's talking. Well, it's also difficult because they do try and surround him with people that can sing, that can dance, that can rap, that can whatever. But the narrative of the movie is that he becomes inexplicably the star, having proven his value to be literally zero. And they point it out. Like, even his friend at the beginning is like, what are you going to do? They make a big point of how he can do nothing. And after two minutes of this performance, the people are like, he's our guy.

37:26He's it. Nobody, I see nothing else. That's the guy who's going to headline our club.

37:31Jason Mantzoukas:You are a goddamn idiot if you can't think that magic is the one. Like, take magic. Take that bigger guy. Do magic do his little butt on the ground? But then we are, you almost have to be though that this movie is about basically white people taking black culture and saying the white guy is the person that we will take. We won't take any of the minorities in his crew even though he's a garbage monster. We need the guy in our place to be white for all the white patrons, I guess. By the way, it's a very white breakdancing crew. I mean, magic is the only, yeah. There's a guy I like to call White Luigi and maybe that is not PC either but he just has like a spoof of curly hair and a big mustache and he always looks like he's dressed like a plumber but with a midriff and a scarf around his neck and he does a lot of arms and shoulders like a lot of chugga chugga chugga very good dancer that guy he's a great dancer I want to talk about the guy that was not on mic that we talked about here his rapping is like I'm ribbity ribbity ribbity ribbity bibbity like he's not saying words and he's not rapping so fast that he's like, it's not like Eminem where he's just like nailing out lyrics.

38:43Is he not saying actual words? No wonder I couldn't understand him. You thought he was great. He's literally saying like

38:47Jason Mantzoukas:ribbity ribbity rat. Like, here, take a listen again. Here we go. Stop saying ribbity rat. Like I have it with my rippings up around my neck. I'm a summer. That's the line that told me I can jam with the best. Break down all the rest. I'm a J-A-M-A. That's all right. In the beginning, it's... And he runs out of steam and just slows way down. I can jam with the best. He's saying like... Like I have it with my

39:10I mean, yeah. I would love it. I would love it if one of our listeners would transcribe this song and do it as a plaintive folk ballad. That and Vanishing Boys, which is awesome. Not mad at the music in this movie. I loved a lot of the music. Or the dancing. It must be said, the break dancers in the first sequence are awesome. The skeleton dancers are great.

39:35Jason Mantzoukas:When they do that camera underneath the breakdancers. I guess they were on a glass floor or something. I thought that was pretty cool. And then they do an overhead shot of just people helicoptering their legs in slow-mo for too long. Guys, I'm not going to lie. I took breakdance lessons at the YMCA. What? What? Barry, the lead. Oh, I had like... We would sit in my house and I would put down cardboard and I would watch Magnum PI and would practice breakdancing moves. I would breakdance in fifth and sixth grade in the halls at my elementary school. Wow. We would all breakdance. We would breakdance at bar and bat mitzvahs.

40:16It was hot. Okay. I'm going to say. Full little Greek boy mustache, Miami Vice style clothes at a bar mitzvah, breakdancing. Do you remember any of those moves? Oh, no, not at all. I'm going to say something and you might be upset by this. I would get hurt immediately. Yeah. So I'm not a huge fan of the form breakdancing. Wow. Okay, cool. Yeah, you were. I mean, you mean my art form? Yeah. Do you mean my craft? Okay. Interesting. Go ahead. But I guess I'm curious. Please continue. Well, I will. I will. Oh, for the record, I hate musicals. That's fine. That's fine. I just feel like I'm curious what happened in those classes.

41:01because to me, I always think it's just a bunch of gobbledygook. The dancing of breakdancing? Breakdancing. I'm like... No, there's like real... Maybe this is something terrible I'm saying right now, but... There's like real technique and craft. Guys, as someone who I mentioned earlier recently learned to breakdance for season two of Glow, it does actually take quite a bit of skill, June. I feel like there's a lot of isolation, body part isolation and fluidity. Should I do the worm? Yes. You think that's gobbledygook? You think this Danny McBride motherfucker is doing gobbledygook? I do. I do.

41:49You think that's gobbledygook? That's Danny McBride stone cold crushing. Here's the thing. I feel like if I got myself into a state, if I got myself worked up enough, I could do that.

42:03Jason Mantzoukas:Are you saying like you believe? June, challenge accepted.

42:11New York City, bring your best. When we're there, break off. I could get there with no practice.

42:20Jason Mantzoukas:Wait, are you saying? With no practice? No practice. We are going to battle so hard. Wait, let me ask you this. So do you think that what was happening in Wild Wild Country was breakdancing? Like they get so into it? That is an excellent question. They got worked up into a state. A state. Where you can't help but like pop. Yes. And go. And lock. How dare you? How dare you? I'm not worried. I can do it. We are going to battle. And the idiot dismissively goes, I could do that. I could. All I know is that when we're next in New York, I want DJs, I want rappers, and I want two squares of linoleum.

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45:58Jason Mantzoukas:It's worth mentioning that the theme song peaked at number 48 on the Hot 100 chart, and Lorenzo Lamas also got on the Billboard 100 chart for the track Fools Like Me. Both got in there in 1984, people. That is very depressing. 1984? Is that when this came out? Yes, this movie came out in 1984. The same year, Breakin', Breakin' 2, Beat Street and Body Rock came out. But here's an interesting thing. Breakin' and Breakin' 2 same year. Wow! I remember I had the Beat Street record. that had a pull-out poster of breakdance moves in the record. Yeah. I mean, Breaking 2 was my, I love that movie. That was the best.

46:46Jason Mantzoukas:But there are no real moves, are there? Only clips. Wow! Wait, what did you say? Wow! What did you say? Wow! Reddit! Reddit! Let's get this going. No, I don't feel like there are moves. You just get out there, you go, and whatever happens, happens. Holy cow. June, June, you couldn't be more wrong. Couldn't you say the same about Merce Cunningham? Couldn't you say the same? He's just starting and going. It looks like gobbledygook. I'm looking at you, Martha Graham. I'm looking at you, Twyla Tharp. I'm looking at you, Bill Moses. No, no, no. That type of modern dance, I don't think I could do successfully.

47:23I think I could do this.

47:24Jason Mantzoukas:All right. I am pulling up Super Dancer, one of the best break dancers according to YouTube. Let's see if you feel the same way about... I can do that.

47:38Okay, all right. I will say... I'm gonna... I will say those are the moves I learned at the YMCA. All right. So I'm gonna make a quick disclaimer. So I... I think that I can do the breakdancing moves in body rock. Yes. Yes. I think I can do those. easily. Oh, man. Well... I can't wait till we have a break-off.

48:08Jason Mantzoukas:With any... You know what, June? I think you suffered the same fate as Chili. You saw the easy route of break-dancing and the fame went to your head. And, you know, what's next gonna be? You're gonna say, like, you want a cup of Folgers? Oh, my God. When Chili is seen being his most, like, dickish, he's like, cup of Folgers would be tight. And you know that that's It's the exact same line his mother says to him earlier in the movie. There's a number of instances where Chili says lines that other people have said to him throughout the movie. So when she's watching TV, she says a cup of Folgers would be nice.

48:46And then he says it later. Can we just talk about that whole sequence after Chili has sex with Sheila from a chorus line?

48:58Jason Mantzoukas:That sex scene, I wanted to even break it there. Unless we can start with the sex scene, and then we definitely have to talk about his walking down the street and speaking straight to camera. Whoa, that was crazy. His leather jacket, like, strut. Like, I read online that he ripped 25 collars off of that jacket from popping it so hard. He popped the collar every cut. Let's listen to the post-sex trench coat. Well, I don't even know what this is. What is this? It's apparently, it's a very popular cut in Europe right now, he says. Oh, I'm not saying what is the outfit. I'm saying what is this sequence where he starts straight up Ferris Bueller-ing the movie.

49:50I thought it was like a commercial break in the middle of the movie. I was like, oh yeah, this is like a 1984

49:59Jason Mantzoukas:It made me uncomfortable Don't talk to me Can he see us? Yeah It's like when you make eye contact with a performer Does he know I'm jerking off? Just at the number of popping of the collars It's not a commercial, you think it's a commercial It doesn't make any sense of what this is It could end with, so come on down to Wilson leather. And I'd be like, cool, man. I will. The only leather that will strand 20 pops of your collar, guaranteed. I like to think that the director was really, that was his super creative moment. Like, we'll get him through the window of the car as it rolls down and like, you know, down from the fire escape.

50:48Jason Mantzoukas:And that's the thing about this director. I feel like the angles are very music video but the putting it together there as a movie is where it got fishy. Yes, yes. Like, by the way, I do like the artist, like when he's with the, you know, this woman, she's an artist. Like her apartment, I just noticed in the background, is a paint platform. Is there a bed? Like, it's something that you would build to like, paint like a ceiling. It's like a paint platform. And that's the bed. It's in the corner. I was like, cool, man. She's an artist. She sleeps on a high-level paint platform. And also him smoking weed seems so like really taking it in.

51:32Jason Mantzoukas:But this sex scene, so they, you know, this is... You know... The zippers, the pointless zippers. So many zippers. He's like enveloping her, like tweaking her. He unzips... The double-boob zipper. The infamous double-boob zipper. There's a sexual move that is to unzip her breast pockets. While, like, she's... And then she has to unzip the main jacket herself. Because he did nothing. Also, I'm just now noticing, are the windows painted? Yes. As I'm saying, she's an artist. There's art everywhere. She can't stop. So they're, like, having sex dancing. And then he takes off. This is weird. And then he's immediately naked.

52:21He's in like a jumpsuit that he only half takes off But he definitely is not wearing underwear

52:28Jason Mantzoukas:No underwear And it's a rough scene It was a rough scene for me to watch The 15 times I saw it This is like This is what sex is, right? Yeah, don't you just wave your arms Make a couple of squiggly lines And then lowering her to the floor and then standing and looking off into the distance. I mean, he really also presents his body, but she still has her clothes on, and you know he's completely naked. Yeah, yeah. And with a massive heart on. Oh, totally. Wow, massive, Paul? Massive? All right, man, be cool. Massive. Oh, and he's just got this rock-hard horse cock. Oh, okay, Shear, what's up? I say massive because I don't believe that Chili is ever not erect.

53:29Okay, Paul, wow. Paul, I'd like to see the rest of your notebook pages, please. Well, you can see there's some drawings. Mr. and Mrs. Paul Chili.

53:40Jason Mantzoukas:Some drawings of, like, different pants and just things, and then there's, I don't know. I mean, this is like, yeah. I mean, it's a hypothesis of what Chili's cock and balls look like. Oh, man. Chili's got those cum gutters.

54:00With his massive hard-on TM Paul Scheer.

54:04Jason Mantzoukas:I did kind of a thought of what a cock ring would look good on Chili. Like, different cock rings. Oh, you know he's got that big, thick, veiny cock. Chili. I'll let the people from London take a look at it. They can verify. Okay. June. June.

54:48Jason Mantzoukas:So, so June, um...

54:59Jason Mantzoukas:June's gone now. In a lot of ways, it seems like maybe she's just Donald's whore. But I would argue... Okay. And you know, Donald's cock, by the way, not as massive. as Chili's. Yeah, oh, Paul, did you want to run down your cock list size for the guys in the movie? Chili, great cock. Easy. Excellent cock. Terrence, not so great, but he knows how to use it. Jamma. Works for him. And then, of course, Snake. Of course. Oh, man. Listen, I do believe that Claire, I don't think she's a kept woman. I don't know though I mean I did you know when she's working out the moonwalk in her apartment I did feel like she is leading a creative life and there was something and she's partying and I was I was very interested in that lifestyle look you didn't let me finish I'm sorry I'm sorry I would argue that she is actually in a power position with Donald and Terrence more than anyone she's like the one who gets this amazing performance at the end they seemingly give her whatever she wants and I would like to say that her performance at the end of the movie is so much better than anything Chili ever does and they're watching it and they're like she's ripping off Chili I was like is she?

56:37if so let her do it because she's good she's covering Smooth Talker or whatever the fuck that song was and it is so much better. It's so good. It seems like a different song and she's doing like, she can't do the break dancing. She's just doing amazing dancing. I loved her.

56:56Jason Mantzoukas:Well, let's see what you all thought about this film. We're going to go out here for the newly titled segment of the show, Double Takes. This is your double take moment here. All right, sir, your break dancing name and your question. I think probably just like privileged, untalented white guy. That would be your breakdancing name. Yeah, I'd go by it. I was constantly confused by the ages of all these characters in the movie. Like, I feel like it opens and they're doing, like, what high schoolers would do. They're, like, tagging this thing. And then later, and then they're running around with a child.

57:29And later it's revealed that, like, she's a doctor. Which makes no sense. Like, how old are these people? And also, like, is Claire 30 or 80? Like, I have no idea. Regardless, she looks great. She looks great. She looks great.

57:45Jason Mantzoukas:Anybody over here? Anybody over here? All right. Here, you come here. Come on. All right. From the middle of the aisle. Is Darlene a doctor, a full doctor? No, I think it was a nurse. I sort of thought she was a nurse or just like a clerk. Yeah, I thought her work was more administrative. Yeah. That's a better way to say it. At the most, at this point, I feel like she's maybe an RN. I think these women are the worst titles tonight. Ma 'am? Maybe she's an RN. Well, an RN's a very, like, important position. You said it the most. I mean, RN is, that's... I'm not trying to take away... Okay. Apologies to...

58:19Yeah.

58:20Jason Mantzoukas:My mother was an RN. Yeah, to be a registered nurse is no fucking joke. Here we go. The amount of medical training, nigga. She's probably... Then she's probably a doctor. I don't know. All right, ma 'am, your breakdancing name and your question. Well, I feel like now it has to be, like, doctor break or something. But I didn't understand why they couldn't get in, like his friends couldn't get in. But then in the final scene, all his friends are in the club. No idea. They couldn't get on the list. I assume Magic put them all on the list. Well, so at the end, it was like a huge event, right, that Magic tells him about.

58:58And I also was confused as to why that's happening at Terrence's club. It's because it was Chili's idea. Oh, it was his idea originally. the idea to have like a what's it called extravaganza rap extravaganza that that they then that's right that they then decided to do but then they kicked chili out but they did it anyway can i also say in that moment no one's gonna care about this but you know donald the character doesn't really speak the whole movie even though he's like this all-powerful guy which i kind of was like hey terrence maybe you could have mentioned like that's who that old guy was that was hanging out.

59:34And until the very end of the movie when they're like, get him out of here. And his voice is like, what? He has the highest picture. It's not what I was expecting. Oh, maybe they cut all his lines

59:47Jason Mantzoukas:because he didn't sound dignified. They keep that stare down between Chili and Donald. Like, I was like, wow, this is still going on. Also, Donald is always in a tuxedo. he's never not how else would we know he was rich that's true

1:00:09Jason Mantzoukas:sir your breakdancing name your question my breakdancing name would be Kilowatt great no further questions that's it I don't know if June is a child labor expert but I was concerned about Magic working at the club late at night and his supervisor is his 10 year old sister Good question. So Magic's age too, though, was in question to me because there were certain shots where I was like, oh, he's nine. And then there were other shots of him where I was like, is he 18? Like, I wasn't totally sure how old Magic was. I think probably closer to nine. Really? I would say like 12. Like I would put him at like, you know, like...

1:00:56He looked great for his age. Yeah. He looked terrific.

1:00:59Jason Mantzoukas:I think we all agree, Magic looked great. Sir, your breakdancing name, your question. Super white.

1:01:09And there were so many lines of dialogue in this movie that were completely unintelligible. And not just like, not pointless ones. Like, he's intimately, he's intimately like in there face to face with his girlfriend. He's like, there you go.

1:01:31Jason Mantzoukas:cut scene i i agree with you there is a lot of bad sound recording it's the only movie that i noticed rain on a camera lens ever um when they're walking on the docks they're like it there's rain on the lens never seen that there's also terrible lighting in like the last third of the movie occurs mostly in just darkness. There are so many times I watched this on my computer where I kept on trying to get the brightness up and I was already at max. Well, again, we can't fault the transfer because if this was the proper 4K treatment that we all want. Oh, listen. I'm watching it in 240p on a fucking YouTube window.

1:02:21just like put a bullet in my head. Not only do I have to watch this piece of shit, I have to watch it in low res. What? And they made me... They're making me do it twice? That's crazy. On a dial-up modem?

1:02:43Jason Mantzoukas:All right, ma 'am, your breakdancing name and your question. Chili's, parenthetical, actually the restaurant.

1:02:53So, Little Luigi is actually Renee Elizondo, who is married to Janet Jackson on the down low. And I'm wondering if his association... Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. If his association with this movie was enough to keep it down and buried.

1:03:10Jason Mantzoukas:Or, is the reason why they're together because he was in this movie. I mean, yeah, marrying into body rock is a very rare thing. alright yes sir your breakdancing name your question breakdancing name is just a lot of shoulders

1:03:28and question and I think the answer is yes do you think working on this movie might make someone want to change their career path

1:03:37Jason Mantzoukas:fair question do you know something we don't oh hold on I posit that the director of photography of this movie saw a business owner using his power, abusing it for sexual gain, changed his career path from DP to federal prosecutor because the director of photography of this movie is called Robert Mueller.

1:04:04Amazing. It's a long walk. It's a long walk. I don't know. They seem to have appreciated it.

1:04:13Jason Mantzoukas:A medium on it. That is good work to find out the DP. You know, we mentioned a rap stravaganza. But you said it's Robert Mueller, not Robert Mueller. There's an umlaut in the opening credits. There's an umlaut. He said there was an umlaut in the opening credits. It could have also just been the way it buffered. It may not have been an umlaut. The tagline of this movie was, A rap stravaganza movie with dynamic music! Spectacular dance sequences! point. That is the tagline. So if you were to rent Body Rock or see it. 48 % on Rotten Tomatoes. Not that bad. Not bad. Not bad. For a movie that's essentially impossible to find in high res, I'm amazed.

1:05:07Jason Mantzoukas:Budget, we don't know. Opening weekend though, in 1984, it made$630 ,000. And the domestic it gross was 1.6 million, which based on everything I'm seeing, I feel like that was a success. Huge. If you told me it cost them$18 ,000 to make this movie, I would believe you. A lot of it appears to just be B-roll that they stole of them walking on the streets of New York. Well, now here is something interesting. So, the top three movies of 1984, Beverly Hills Cop, Ghostbusters, Indiana Jones, and the Temple of Doom. This movie came in oh this movie was beat by Rhinestone, Streets of Fire and Runaway the things we've done on this show and it beat nothing so maybe it was a little bit lower yeah so that's what we know about those are the stats of Body Rock but you know what we certainly had an opinion about this movie but we don't have the only opinion it is now time for second opinions I watch movies and it's all I can do On Amazon I read all the reviews These films are awesome I wanna tell you all what I thought Five stars is all I got Second Opinions Don't you want to read my Amazon reviews?

1:06:38Second Opinions Don't let it slip away Second Opinions I only want to share them with you You might agree with me today

1:06:55Give it up for Trish!

1:06:59Jason Mantzoukas:Give it up for Trish! Trish, killing it! Great job, Trish!

1:07:12Jason Mantzoukas:You have the best audience in the house people out here in costume. You guys are in costume out there. Great costumes. I love it. Very rarely do we get people in full costumes. Do you have some chest hair person out there too? What's on your back? Stand up. Turn around. Whoa. It says chili. He's got a chili jacket. He just did a number of collar pops. He's got a chili. That jacket's actually very big in London right now. Can I ask you a question? Are you prepared to break dance? No. You cannot break this, but neither can Lorenzo Lama. I was going to give you a shot. I was going to give you your shot, man.

1:07:49Your one shot to make it in the biz of breaking.

1:07:53Jason Mantzoukas:We've got to bring you up here when we take pictures at the end. Just have you facing your... Yeah, we've got to see that jacket. All right, so here's the thing, people. This movie is hard to find, right? So Amazon is not full of reviews, and the ones that were five stars are clearly facetious.

1:08:14Jason Mantzoukas:You know, so, you know, then they get like, you know, then they get really angry, too. It's like, you know, from like Peter 07, who titles his review, Llamas is an idiot.

1:08:29Jason Mantzoukas:Or Nose, who just, Dr. Nose, who says, body yuck. So not really a great world there for that. But I do have a review that I pulled from IMDB. So this one is pretty great. And it's one, a little bit longer than most, but we can stop and start. In the fine tradition of early hip-hop culture films such as Rappin', Breakin', Breakin' 2, Beat Street, Wild Style, Style Wars, not to mention Mixed Blood, Alphabet City, and even Gloria, although definitely more akin to the first four films mentioned, Body Rock is more than a worthy companion to those well-known films. Chili D is a kid? Question mark. From the New York streets who doesn't have a lot of money but he has a big dream to make it big with his crew of dancers and rappers the Body Rock crew.

1:09:30Jason Mantzoukas:Through some streetwise tenacity as well as a lucky break or two Chili achieves his dream but at what cost? He stops keeping it real and starts spending all of his time with these uptown snobs forgetting his downtown roots. He even moves out of his old neighborhood and into a ritzy loft with his new snobby lady, causing a rift between him and his true love, not to mention alienating the entirety of his once-beloved Body Rock crew. Will Chili lose his soul and become a sellout, or will he connect with his roots and pop and lock his way into glory? Everything about Body Rock is great. the music is infectious toe tapping and fun assuming you don't jump out of your seat and start breaking right there on the floor which actually maybe because there wasn't a whole bunch of rap music at the time encompasses a wide variety of genre there's rap dance new wave and even power pop represented um and then it goes on to talk about the the the uh the fashions and and the dancing, and he goes, the little boy Magic gets some great moves off and is very charming, especially when he's teaching Chili how to dance, including the fan favorite sit-down dance.

1:10:43Jason Mantzoukas:Also, the dancer in Chili's crew that looks like Reno 911's Thomas Lennon gives it all he's got and proves once and for all you could be a middle-aged white guy with a wife and kids and a mustache and still lay down some funky moves. And then it says, New York, this review is three pages and it's we're on the last page it's broken down to sections the sections that i just read were uh music fashion and uh now we're on new york city locations keeping it street there are a lot of new york locations that captured all in their 80s glory and it says you can even see billboards for romancing the stone playing in time square great and then okay this is the final line here from the opening of the film when the body rock crew are dancing their way across the street to the spray painting of the subway cars to the dance sequences to the training sequences to Chili's downfall where it becomes a pot smoking low life to the final rap stravaganza which is basically the whole movie you can't just say two two two two two from the beginning of the movie when Indiana Jones finds that thing to when he goes back to school to the moment where he goes finds the other thing to when he goes over here that's the movie You've just described the movie.

1:12:00Jason Mantzoukas:It's awesome, especially if you're an 80s freak like me. You will have a lot to feast on with the underrated Body Rock. Don't just watch it tonight. Live it tonight. Whoa! Five stars.

1:12:20That's great life advice.

1:12:23Jason Mantzoukas:That is creatively adding a backstory for the man with the mustache. We don't know that he's married with kids, right? Yeah. We don't know. Maybe. Maybe there's a line that... We don't know, Jason. We can't... Wow. Are you mad? Ellie, are you mad at me? I'm fine. What? Oh, God. Are you sure you're okay? Everything's fine. Oh. Oh, no. Final thoughts. Final thoughts. Anyone, any final thoughts of things we have not covered? Things you wanted to talk about that we didn't get a chance to? I just want to say that in the second song, this sounds like something very specific to say as a final thought, but it's been on my mind.

1:13:03Of course. Speak your truth. That the movie starts with a Body Rock song, and then it goes into a song about graffiti, and they reference Shakespeare and Moses. I wrote that down. And the line about Shakespeare is, have you heard about Shakespeare? he wrote a lot of good stuff.

1:13:25Jason Mantzoukas:And it says, Brother Moses was all right. He wrote some good stuff. They rhyme good stuff with good stuff. Yeah, that was pretty... That's my final thought. That's a great one. A great one indeed. June, anything? I mean, I know I've said some things about the form of breakdancing tonight. In thinking about it further and having a couple minutes to reflect on it, I feel like I want to amend my statement from before, from earlier. I think with the exception of Magic's moves in this film, I could do the rest of the break. I just want to make that clear. So Magic is a real dancer and everybody else is just doing gobbledygook?

1:14:12Gobbledygook. And if I was stated, I could easily do it. If I got myself into the right state.

1:14:21Jason Mantzoukas:You have to go to Wild Wild Country, get in that zone. If I got worked up enough, I could do it. Jason? With the exception of my... You know, this was a real roller coaster for me. You know, it really hit a lot of my nostalgia buttons just from my old break-in days, you know? You know, I feel like I came here and had my first, what I would consider my first art form maligned by one of my dearest friends. And I want to say something. I want to speak to that. Because I do, what I feel badly about is I do think that for a lot of little girls, they have so many outlets to dance. You know, they have jazz, they have ballet.

1:15:05And I feel like for boys, they don't have many outlets. Yeah. And at the time you were coming of age, break dancing was a way for you to express yourself physically. Trying to express. I know. I see that. There I was, 12, 13 years old, wanting to express, artistically express how I felt and how I was engaging with the world and my tiny mustache and trying to figure out the way my body was changing.

1:15:34Jason Mantzoukas:And everyone at those bar and bat mitzvahs got it. Just trying to finger girls up behind the dumpsters

1:15:43unsuccessfully in a pink collared, Not even collared shirt. It doesn't matter. There were espadrilles involved. Guys, Miami Vice was a thing. I also want to say that I have a correction and omission from something I said earlier. I said Bill Moses was a dancer. I think I meant Bill T. Jones. Yeah. Oh, okay, great. There's that. Before I get a bunch of harassing on the street.

1:16:10Jason Mantzoukas:Absolutely, you know. I wanted to bring up one thing that I thought was interesting. at the end when Chili breaks into the club for the rap stravaganza the audience in the club is all on board they're clapping and cheering and then the music stops and then it's silent and then his girlfriend she does the one clap thing yeah the slow clap but you don't need a slow clap when the whole audience is on your side like he didn't win them over well because they cut out the music this was like now the crowd was going to create the beat, but I would like to point out again, it was very offbeat. There were two different sets of claps.

1:16:50So she starts like, and then other people like, it was just like, so it turned into applause. Oh, I didn't realize that she was trying to start the beat. Yeah, that's what I thought too. But it didn't matter because then it turned into Give Us Back the Music and Break, which was the chant that the audience then starts doing to get Terrence to turn back the... Oh, God. I'm going to say, I don't know that I would recommend people watch this movie. No, absolutely not. I would say not. I mean, I would definitely listen to the song Vanishing Boys on repeat, because I thought it was great. Or just the body rock theme.

1:17:29Body rock.

1:17:31Jason Mantzoukas:I may buy the soundtrack if I can find it. If there's a Spotify playlist, I might listen to it. I would listen to this music and breakdance around my house just because it's a valid form of expression. And I mean, I would do the moves that I learned that are real moves. I mean, listen, to me it was always like, I'm going to say something that's going to be really harsh. But whenever I see someone breakdancing, I feel embarrassed for them. I do.

1:18:06Jason Mantzoukas:Did you feel embarrassed for that breakdancer I just showed you? Wow. Did you feel embarrassed for that break? No, I don't define what he was doing as breakdancing. Okay, what is he doing? I define breakdancing as like getting on the floor like a turtle. Like you're a turtle that can't flip over and just spinning around. So you equate breakdancing. It's harder than it looks. You equate breakdancing with helplessness? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do. I'm stuck down here. I can't turn over. make this clear. It's not that I don't, you know, I'm not someone who loves, like, high art and ballet and all that stuff.

1:18:46Like, this, I see where this is going. And I want to dispel that myth right away. Like, there's, I love where breakdancing came from and all that. I just, I find it unpleasant to watch.

1:18:59Jason Mantzoukas:So are you just saying, like, this type of breakdancing, this is, I'm gonna play another... I could do that. That's cool. Look, I'm not going to argue there's a level of difficulty that is absolutely, absolutely. I don't think you can judge it. How is your breaking in season two? It's not very good. And that's where I want to say that when you try to learn stuff like this, then you realize the value because it's very difficult. So just because something is difficult doesn't mean that it's good.

1:19:39that's wow that's

1:19:42Jason Mantzoukas:and that's my opinion I'm not gonna lie that's a t-shirt that's my opinion you got three t-shirts available now at Tee Public wow alright so I would recommend you do watch this movie um boy oh boy wow alright let's get to plugs Allison what do you want to talk about anything oh Glow Season 2 featuring me break dancing a very small amount. All episodes on Netflix, June 29th. Very exciting. Very soon, very soon. That's very exciting. Well, Grace and Frankie season four is on Netflix right now. No break dancing.

1:20:24I've got nothing to plug, but I do want to say, Tom King, Mitch Jarrett, I see what you're doing out there. I don't like it. Get back to work. That's what I'm saying.

1:20:37Jason Mantzoukas:And also, I wanted to tell you guys to subscribe to, I'm doing a podcast miniseries with Amy Nicholson called Unspooled, where we are watching the AFI's top 100 movies. It's the converse of this show. We are actually watching good movies, which I found to be incredibly refreshing. Like, whenever I have to watch one of those movies, I'm like, this is great. And I feel smarter and better and lighter afterwards. So that is my cleanse, and this is my junk food, so we are doing that. You can subscribe right now, wherever you listen to podcasts. And that is all. A big thanks to Averill Halley, who cut all these amazing clips.

1:21:18Jason Mantzoukas:Nate Kiley did all the amazing research for a movie that is practically unavailable. So that is great. Everybody up in the booth, Kelly Alto. And thank you all for coming.

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