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21:37Jason Mantzoukas:No, thank you. They try so hard to obscure the faces whenever real circus is used that they're shooting underneath, through a net and you can tell that these circus performers are trying to tuck their head in as hard as they can. We don't see any facial features on anyone. What's crazy is at the beginning of the movie when Carlos and Lena, a.k.a. Mariposa, are together and they have baby Gabby. They come back from vacation. She's like, I want you to get a job. He's like, I'm a circus. I'm a trapeze flyer. She's like, then I want a divorce. It's over. He just leaves. He's done. Doesn't say goodbye.

22:12He's literally done.

22:14Jason Mantzoukas:But by the way, they keep on cutting to this young girl that we will meet older because it does do a time jump. And the parents are having a conversation like this. Look, you need to get a job. I can't get a job. Well, then we should get a divorce. They cut to the girl sobbing. Sobbing. Like you are hearing the biggest fight that has ever happened. And it's almost so polite that I'm like, did they just get a divorce? They are so, she's like, well, you have to get a divorce. Go ahead. And he just walks out with the same bag he walked in with. He did. And at which point it's 10 years later. Cuts to 10 years later.

22:44So I'm going to assume it's been about five years that he hasn't worked. It's 15 years since he has done trapeze professionally. He's been doing what the fuck on Circus Island for 10 years. I'll tell you what he's doing. He's raw-dogging his wife is what he's doing. He's not doing well. Lena's sister can't remember her name, not Mariposa. Do you want to know, can I explain to you how I decided to tell them apart? Sure. In one scene, Mariposa is wearing a cowboy hat, and the sister is wearing a trucker hat. So I just started referring to them as trucker hat or cowboy hat. Got it.

23:21Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I know it as straight hair, curly hair. Straight hair, curly hair. Curly hair. Curly hair. And we're all aware they are actual sisters? I assumed they were. Well, I mean, I'll just say it right here. You know, written and directed by Audrey Landers, written and directed by Judy Landers. So they wrote and directed it together, and it was produced by their mother, Ruth Landers. Wow. And the daughter is actually their daughter, another Landers. Gabrielle? Gabrielle. Gabrielle. Yes, we're going to get in Ann. That's so much to process. Yeah. Ann Landers? But I'll tell you, by the way, I'll tell you how Carlos has been living on that island.

23:59When Curly Hair shows up, Curly Landers shows up, he's like, I'll take you out for some sushi and whatever. Oh, wait. Wait, wait, wait. And she's like, well, first of all, she says, I brought a granola bar. I rewound that three times. I couldn't make heads or tails of what was happening. But I believe from that point forward, he's living off of her dolphin training salary. Oh, for sure. That's crazy. Well, I mean, we are meant to be rooting for him. He's the villain until Ashley shows up and then she's like, hold my beer.

24:36Jason Mantzoukas:Now, the way that you just painted that meet cute, it's way weirder. because she has to go to that island that is told to her is haunted to wait out a storm. And he's like, let's go have dinner. Cut to, it seems like maybe an hour has passed. And he's like, it's too late now. We're in love. And we find, like, they find, he first of all finds out that this is his wife's twin sister. They find that out immediately. And he goes, too late for me to change because I'm already in love with you. He just met her an hour ago. He offers her sushi and a surprise. Oh, that's what it was. Which I thought was not cool at all.

25:23But here's what's so crazy, though, because she says... She says, it's moving so fast. She says, Curly Lender says that her sister, Mariposa, has stopped speaking to her because she got into bed with a man who stole all of her money from like a bad business venture or something like that. And it's so wild because as the movie's going on, I'm like, oh wait, is she doing that all over again? And then, but then here's what's so crazy about the Lander sisters and their body of work. Here's what's so crazy because then as the movie goes on, we see Mariposa apologize for that and say that she's sorry, She judged Carlos.

26:08She's sorry. And I'm like, no, everything you thought, every warning you gave her was appropriate. Yes, he's been living off of you and your dolphin work. Yes. And by the way, what's happening out there that they stopped dolphin research? And then for sure, like when she loses her dolphin job and they're going to lose the island, the kids write to the aunt. The aunt comes in. She has the camp idea. She's going to save the day. And he's still like, no, I got to go to Mexico and wrestle. I'm Ed Mariner my name's Carlos

26:37Jason Mantzoukas:I do want to just say that Lena, the straight haired more serious sister does just suggest a camp that can fit 10 she's like you can open up a camp here for 10 people that's not going to save anybody 10 people? why even open the doors at that point? here's the other thing I'm going to say and maybe you guys didn't notice this there were a couple of training montages in the movie? Did you notice? I don't think I remember. There were a couple of montages set to music. Were the whole songs played? I don't know. Whole songs were played and they usually went in this order. Jumping springboard, balancing on globes that are the earth, climbing a rope, all set to music.

27:27And there's no improvement every time we saw them, right? There are four complete song training montages. in which all of the people are doing all of the circus training. There are, I'm going to say conservatively, 40 people in those scenes.

27:41Jason Mantzoukas:Well, there are real circus people. There are real circus people. Now, let me ask you this. I just want to get one more thing straight, because there's a lot we're laying out here. And we haven't even really started. We haven't even cracked it. We just have to get the baseline. I get it, but I just want to say that in the scene by the fireside, Ed Mariner does say, your eyes are so much like my ex-wife's. before he figures out that they're sisters what the fuck is this movie and and then he's like well what do you want me to say they do look like my ex-wives he at that point that's a signal that she should leave even in a thunderstorm um there's also before any of this happens when she does crash on the beach or not crash when she sets her boat gently on the beach um there are footprints in the sand happening and right oh ghost or jesus because i was thinking about that famous uh in poem like when you know why are there two footprints now but one footprint jesus like because i was carrying you and i'm like oh all right is this the jesus beach i didn't know yeah um but they really let that ghost is this the jesus beach so paul you think that just happens on one particular beach i thought that that's the beach where it happened And you think, just for, I'm just, I just want to drill down into this for a second.

29:02Do you think that Jesus has been to Florida? Never mind Circus Island, because if so, it disqualifies him as the son of God.

29:15Jason Mantzoukas:I think that Jesus has the most work to do in Florida, so he's spending a lot of time there. Can we make out of this Get Made shirts that say Jesus motorboated me on Circus Island?

29:29Like, I want to... The little kid with the rat tail motorboats everybody in the movie. Spoiler alert, he hugs everybody all the time.

29:39Jason Mantzoukas:All right. Quickly, you'll see why I'm asking in a second. When we do the time jump, how old is the daughter? The daughter that is Ed Maranera's daughter. Gabrielle. Yeah, she's in high school. Four or five? No, no, no. Sorry, sorry. When we see her in high school. Oh, ten years later. So 15, right? Yeah, 15. 15, okay, great. So that would say that he left the house for about 10 years. It says 10 years later. Okay, 10 years later. I'm just going to hit these numbers. Go ahead, go ahead. And then when we meet his new family, he seems to have kids that are about 10 years old or older. If you don't think that the daughter of him and Trucker Hat was conceived at that fireside the second they met, she says, I'm so sorry, oh gosh, I'm falling for my sister's ex-husband.

30:34It's over. It's done. She's so fertile.

30:38Jason Mantzoukas:So you think that they basically had three kids in three years and then they... Done. Boom, boom, boom. Got it. All right, that's all I really want. Let me hear you say, hey-oh, hey-oh. Because I was like, that's a lot of kids. No, I thought about it, too. It didn't seem like there was any time for pregnancy. Right. Yeah, but again, it's a magical Jesus speech, so who knows? And not for nothing. These kids look nothing alike. Nothing. No. I've got questions. Rat tail's a real mischief maker. And the videographer, I don't know what he's doing, but it's not cool at all. Not cool to just go up and down a woman.

31:15Jason Mantzoukas:Your sister. Not just a woman, your sister cousin. He's looking at her like Roger Rabbit looks at Jessica Rabbit. What's going on? These kids are creeps. I wanted to pull up our family tree because now we've identified everybody. Carlos is at the center of our family tree, married to Jenny and Lena. Did we make this or did someone make this? No, this is our producer Scott made this amazing family tree that we can kind of check in. I did not know Mandy, Tyler, and Tucker's names at all. Wow. I love it because right now it looks like Bobo's the mom. Yeah. Because I called them in my notes rat tail videographer and the girl.

32:06Well, I guess the question here is, and again, I'm leading to this moment to say that

32:12Jason Mantzoukas:is Ed Marinara a homeschool teacher? Okay, great question. Because they're not, are they going to school? What do they do? That's why, again, the moral of the story is they stay on the island and Lena realizes this is what her daughter wants and this is the right decision for her daughter. And I want to say no, it's not. This is a terrible decision. It's not a beach town. It is a deserted island. There's no infrastructure. They don't have a grocery store. There's nothing on this island. No, I agree. Everything's on the mainland. Barely, there's power on the island. And it seems to me that for 11 years or 10 years, the one piece of infrastructure they have, they have never touched.

32:53Jason Mantzoukas:Like, that circus tent has been cobwebbed up. Yeah. I love that we're calling the circus tent infrastructure. Yeah. I just want to say, like, so the only one they have, they have not even turned their lights on. They haven't touched it. I wish I knew their day-to-day. You know? I was working with anything I had. At one point, Carlos does say to his daughter, when Gabrielle comes into the picture before her, her sand bottle falls. And he realizes, because that music plays, this is my daughter. Before that, he says to the other daughter, Jennifer, or whatever her name is. Mandy. Mandy. And her father.

33:35Like you couldn't be farther away from Mandy than Jennifer. He says to her, is this one of your friends from school? And I thought, school? Yes. Where? Where? Well, I think they go to school a boat ride away. Oh, so they're on that boat every...

33:54Jason Mantzoukas:It seems like the kids are driving the boat. They must. Oh, yeah. Mandy's driving the boat by herself. When Mandy and Gabrielle are heading towards the island, they seem to be in the backseat of a boat and no one is driving. Like they seem to just be like the ghost is driving that boat to the island. There's a lot of questions I have about how they're getting there. Oh, yes. Well, I have a lot of questions about also the economics of the camp because there are, we watch so many training montages. is there are you never see carlos train anyone by the way he's not well he's also not good he's not nothing well and the person saying that i don't know who that is who is that there's also who is that there's two trainers people who are doing stuff like an old gray-haired man with a mustache to me they decided to make a circus movie and then insurance is like well you need to have a professional on set but in the world of the movie those two people have to be paid yes right Right?

34:57So it's like, well, okay, all these kids need three meals a day. They need some sort of, they're living in tents, that's fine. But they have, we have two at least trainers to play. We've got to buy all those balls.

35:10Jason Mantzoukas:But by the way, they're not living, they're not June. We've got to buy the paint to make them look like Earth. June, they're not living in tents. They're living in full structures because when the evil girl comes to trick the boy. When Ashley goes to get Billy. When Ashley goes to get Billy, Billy, who, by the way, is the main love interest in Russian Doll the first season. Oh, cool. Yeah. By the way, I thought he might be a real trapeze artist. No. There's one shot at the very end where he hops off the, you know, they all do that very specific role off the net. And it seemed it was very good.

35:46Jason Mantzoukas:Well, you know who's not good? is Carlos, who seemingly only hangs from a bar, swings back and forth, and then triumphantly jumps off. Like, he just basically is doing the basic swing technique of a child. Now, Paul, in your introduction, you said that one of the sisters was scared of water, and one of them wasn't. Yeah, Paul, you said that. You said that. That's something you said. Jason, I heard it. You said it. Yeah, I did. I did. Prove it. I did. When did you find that out? Well, because when they're on the beach having their romantic wine and talking about falling in love. Oh, and they have like big glass glasses.

36:26Yes.

36:27Jason Mantzoukas:He says, my wife hated the water. And she goes, I know somebody like that. And then the first time that Lena gets on the boat, she's like, ah, ah, ah. And then that plot line drops aggressively. But she could not, like she was so freaked out on the boat. She hates the water. and the other one loves the water. Another way to tell them apart. Cowboy hat, trucker hat. Did you wish that trucker hat, her profession, her work with manatees, her work with dolphins, did you wish that tied in at the end somehow, someway? We see so much nature footage of manatees and dolphins. I think there's only, I'm going to say, 35 to 45 minutes of actual like movie.

37:16Yeah. And the rest of it is montages and B-roll of wildlife. I honestly, as I'm looking back on it, I'm rolling it back right now. I don't think Gabrielle, who I think is the star of the movie, question mark, I don't think she has more than five lines in this film. There's a moment in the movie where there is a full song training montage, a 30 second scene, and a full song identical training montage afterwards that I was like, what? I thought I was having a panic attack. Yeah. I was like, didn't I just watch all of this happen? Like, is this possibly happening again?

37:52Jason Mantzoukas:Are you talking about the song Tabula Rasa? Guys, I could talk. Tabula Rasa, a song that makes no sense. I'm talking about both Tabula Rasa and, if I'm honest, also Island Fever. Okay, well. Which you might remember from its, I'm going to say, eight times being played in the movie. I'm going to let you know that Island Fever, No Problem, Boom Chugga Latte, and Down by the Bay, not only... Boom Chugga Latte? Yep. Are written and performed by Audrey and Judy Landers. they wrote most of all of this. They also, for Boom Chugga Latte, they did team up with Vito and Alberto Manifresco. Hang on. I have a real question to ask.

38:50And we'll cut this out of the episode if it turns out to be true. Did the mafia make this movie?

38:57Jason Mantzoukas:Jason, they did not. I can give you some details that are insane. I mean, there's so... I would love to see a movie about the Lander sisters making this movie. Like that. Same. I would love it. Hard same. Because I do love them. Like here's the thing. Like this movie has, as wild as it was, it has a very special place in my heart. And it did before I knew about Judy and what's the other one's name? Jennifer? Yeah. I mean, do you guys not remember these people? Oh, I do. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, yeah. I do, but I feel like they are a part of my age TV and stuff like that. So I feel like they are, young people would not know.

39:33I don't know them. I'm young. Okay, well. I never know them. Do you remember when they sang the song, No Problems, Be Happy? That's what I want to hear for second opinions. No Problems. No Problems, Be Happy. And you kind of wanted to sing it, you know, Be Happy, but you couldn't. It almost feels like, don't worry. Well, but it's so not, but it's so. No Problems, Be Happy.

39:58Jason Mantzoukas:That's a definite Alberto Manifresco arrangement. Original.

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42:10Please. She is by far the most complex character in the entire movie. And the fact that she's not in the family tree is a shame because she's, in my opinion, the most important person in the movie. Yes. So here's the things we know about her. And I think really, like the only thing we know about her home life is that her parents are in Paris.

42:31Jason Mantzoukas:And they're rich and he's a lawyer and he'll get her out of anything. She's giving me Paris from Gilmore Girls energy. She also is being driven to a public school in a private chauffeured limo. And her first line is, I don't talk to the help. Yeah. I don't talk to the help.

42:50So, but why does she have it out for Gabrielle so bad when no one at the school seems to care about Gabrielle? No, Gabrielle is no shining star. Yeah. She seems shy and like she's not seeking attention or anything. But the other thing that surprised me, and this might just be because of the small scope of the movie, but Ashley didn't have like a group around her Mean Girls style. She didn't have cronies who were backing her up. She was alone, which was strange. So she had two girls at school, but they didn't seem to make it to circus camp. Apparently not. I don't know what happened there.

43:28Jason Mantzoukas:They were lost at sea. Okay. They were killed by a manatee in another scene. It's very funny because when the boat arrives carrying the people from circus camp, Ashley, I'm assuming this was a choice that was made or was just part of the real experience, Ashley looks seasick. Very, genuinely seasick. These are the things we know about Ashley. Yes, or she's an incredible actor, but she looked very seasick. Very, very, everybody else is having the time of their lives. It's like spring break. She's also, during circus camp, wearing pink high-heel pumps. Which I was like, what's happening with Ashley?

44:08I, too, thought this movie was set in 1984 and made then. but for Ashley's wardrobe. And specifically that juicy coated sweatsuit. And it really brought me back because I was like, oh, okay, now we are in 2004. There are references where it's like, oh, I want a Starbucks. Like Hermione. There's things, but none of them felt right.

44:33Jason Mantzoukas:Time stands still on this island. Truly. And it felt like, wow, are they in the past seeing into the future? Like, I couldn't accept that this was in real time. Yeah, I didn't like them talking about Starbucks. I did not like the McDonald's at Starbucks at all. They're on a deserted island. Is there a Starbucks here? I'm dying for a latte. I was like, are you insane? And then her sister's like, I'll get you a margarita. They go to a bar where everyone is drinking, and she's like, I'll have a latte with almond milk. And the bartender's like, huh? And that scene in the bar, every single background actor is doing level 20 stuff.

45:10Yes, yes. everybody's going bananas in the background it's so good but ashley's just to go back to ashley's velour sweatsuit the juicy sweatsuit because those that look to me at that time in my life was everything i was like there's nothing better this is the most i've never looked better than i do in this um it was so that look was so important to me and now i look at it and i'm like and it's not just her body it's any woman's body at that time they were so low-waisted and then they were cropped and boy does it make the proportions of a body look strange and every woman looks like a lizard well it hits i did too i did too it hit it makes lines where there shouldn't be it's so strange it's like you can't find the waist and then you think you're at the waist that's the hip and then you're going around.

46:06No, they create a Dada-esque body. Yes!

46:10Jason Mantzoukas:Which works perfectly for this movie because it's full of clowns. And so they're also warping our perception. By the way, I was so upset that there was no real clown work. Zero. Well, there's a lot of clown paintings in the house. Sometimes the same clown painting in different rooms, it seems like they had run out of enough. They had to make sure the house felt circus-y. one of my favorite moments in the entire movie is in the scene where Ashley is seasick and all the kids are arriving for circus camp they're all getting off the boat and there's the last kid they have to ADR a line of someone saying watch out for the seaweed, it's slippery or something like that because the kid walking wipes out so hard and then looks directly into Lenz like I gotta say I was like, you know they wanted to use that so they had to ADR the line.

47:03Watch out for the seaweed. It's slippery. So I question this because our... Whoop, boom. Lena Mariposa also slips on the seaweed when she arrives. And her slip and fall, pratfall, is also amazing. Yeah. It's so well done.

47:19Jason Mantzoukas:Well, but then can I also say that the final scene of the movie is a kid covered in... We don't see the slip and fall. We just see the seaweed on his body. And he is the one who sees the ghost at the end. I'll show you. he is covered in seaweed. Oh my God, I didn't know that. So the falling on the seaweed is a gag that this movie has adopted because also the dock is full of seaweed. So I don't know what that is. It seems like the dock would be seaweed free because it doesn't feel like seaweed is covered in the top of the dock unless they built it very low. Now, here's my question about the ghosts of the island.

48:05Oh, wow. Ghost. You're really going there, huh? Okay. I am because I would think that what we are building toward in this motion picture is that Carlos would man up and realize at a pivotal moment that Gabrielle needs him. First of all, she shouldn't be up there. She hasn't been trained correctly. There's no...

48:28Jason Mantzoukas:Are you saying that the circus camp isn't training their professional kids for the big end of summer show? He should have had a moment. Also, he's pressuring her in a way that I'm like, dude, you're not part of her life. You have no standoff. Who's coming to this show, by the way? That was a packed house. Also, not to jump back too soon, but before even that happens, where did that country western band come from? On the beach. They seemed like they were campers. His microphone not plugged in. They seemed like they were campers who were just... What are they up to? Singing. I don't know. I couldn't figure that out at all.

49:01Where did the full country western band come from? Don't know. But my question is, or I think there's a better movie in here, in which Carlos has a come to Jesus, Jesus on the beach, come to Jesus as he's pulling away in the boat toward the mainland to Circus Mexicale and realize he's left this daughter he's just reunited with and he's put her in a position where she can't succeed and he should come back. And maybe that's the ghost telling him that. Maybe that's his father who's also jumped on the boat. And maybe he's sort of turning, he's holding onto his hands on the wheel and he's turning him back.

49:44That's interesting to see.

49:45Jason Mantzoukas:But that's not what happens. She could handle it. She was sabotaged. She only failed because the net was cut. That's fine, Paul, but the story is not. She doesn't need it. That's fine, but the story is not about, like, can she handle it or not? It's like, are you a father or not? Carlos learns nothing. Nothing. Carlos learns nothing, and he is the villain of every person's life in the movie. Full stop. His children should be taken away from him. He should be put in jail. Now, that's it. Now, I will say I have more empathy and respect for Carlos' grandfather, the ghost, who decides. Is that Carlos' grandfather?

50:33Jason Mantzoukas:I believe it was his grandfather. I think it's Carlos' father. Was it his father? I thought it was his grandfather. Oh, I apologize. So you guys said father before. I didn't want to correct you. I did check the text of the script, and I really was getting into it. Now, the grandfather, because he had the old-timey mustache. That's how we know. He's got one of those mustaches. So, and he's also wearing one of those. Here's the thing. If you really drill down into it, for how old Ed Mariner actually is, the father figure that they're calling grandfather would have had to have been the age of Ed Mariner's actual father in that era.

51:10Also because he's Ed Maranera at the age of, I'm going to say, conservatively 57, is playing his grandfather from the past at, I'm going to say, 57?

51:25Jason Mantzoukas:Now, if we're just saying the grandfather is dead, right? Well, no, we are saying that. Right, okay. I think we're saying that. That's not up for debate. But he's dead, but he hasn't fully passed over. He still has work to do. He has been dead for, let's just say conservatively, at least 10 to 15 years. At least. The grandfather? Yes. You want to say longer? Oh, I think the grand... You're telling me. Okay, you tell me. Ed Mariner's grandfather has only been dead 10 years. I'm... What are you talking about? Well, because what Paul's saying is just like the actor's age. He's assuming that Carlos, not Ed Mariner, Carlos is a 30-year-old.

52:07Jason Mantzoukas:year old man okay well but wait no no what i'm trying to get to is this conservatively tell me how many years the grandfather has been dead 50 great if we can all agree on 50 so this grandfather waits 50 years to fucking show up like uh fucking yoda in the end of the star wars movies where he's now the ghost is fully, fully sitting in a chair having full-on conversations. He's fully corporeal. So for 50 years, while his son has been here, while everything has happened, he's like, I won't use this trick yet. Do you think, and this is a real question, Do you think the grandfather hasn't moved on because he's there to save Gabby's life in this moment?

53:02Like, that his unfinished business is Gabby's fall in 2005?

53:09Jason Mantzoukas:He does say that some, you call me ghost, I say I'm an angel. Right? Because that's just like, here we go. How could you be here if you're dead? Who knows? And that's the best writing you're going to get. But continue. Who knows? Take the note, M. Night. How does it work? Who knows? Who knows? Don't look too deep at it. You're a ghost. Some call us ghosts. And some call us angels. I came because you needed me. I wish Daddy was here. He will be. So now, here's my question. So he also can see the future. What's his name? Joseph. Joseph. Where's Joseph from? Italy, baby.

54:04Oh, I almost got you. I almost got you. Wow, that was close. But real talk, where's Joseph from? Because this guy's got an accent.

54:17Jason Mantzoukas:i can't believe that we have not even talked about the boy who's being abused billy is being abused by this man who looks like a by the way best performance in the movie incredible stuff incredible now okay so so when we see billy in his foster home what a what a indictment of the foster care system. I did appreciate that. When we see... The Landers sisters really took it to task. When we see him in that home, he's in the shed, and then when he goes to the main house, he knocks on the front door, and I wanted to say, Billy, you live there, don't you? Are we to believe that he lives in the shed with the tools?

55:02He lives there. He stays there? Wow. Well, where is his bed? So many audiences are very adamant

55:07Jason Mantzoukas:that he does live there. I didn't get that. I just thought he got like, you don't fucking into the house unless you knock and say that I could be busy in here. I feel like it's a sock on the door kind of house. Wait a minute. A sock? A sock on the door kind of house? I don't think you can put a sock on the door of a whole house. Well, I mean... I mean, that's a fucking baller move to be like, don't come into the whole house because I don't know where we are and it's fucked up. I don't want you to see so don't even come into the whole ass house. I believe that that guy is up to a lot of bad stuff.

55:50Imagine coming up to a house and seeing a sock on the door being like you know what? Why don't we take a walk? Why don't we find a diner? Oh my.

56:05A sock on the door kind of house. What are you talking about?

56:12Jason Mantzoukas:One of those socks in the door houses. That's, by the way, anybody who has been through that program knows. What program? Foster care. What program? Foster care. Now we're getting somewhere. Have you been putting socks on the door of our home? You know what? I got my business. They got their business. June, when you get home, check your shed. Oh, my God. Holy shit. There's so much back and forth. Lena and Gabby do so much back and forth between Florida and Patterson, New Jersey, for no reason. They go back and forth and back and forth. I'm like, just give us Circus Island. I mean, well, I don't think the audience can handle that much Circus Island.

57:02Jason Mantzoukas:Holy shit. Can we talk about the use of slow motion? Sure. in another i'm assuming bid to make the movie longer they just inexplicably at times do slow mo on scenes that are do not warrant slow motion it is like someone like bouncing on off of the net it's just slow mo of people barely in frame falling out of frame it's so weird the thing that strikes me as weird we've talked about a lot of weird things what bothered me the most was Billy, when they were sleeping in the living room, he's like, I can't sleep here. Bobo, come with me. Bobo's the bird. And him and Bobo leave. So is he treating Bobo like a dog?

57:51Jason Mantzoukas:Like him and Bobo sleep in the same room? Here's the thing, and I wrote this in my notes. The bird freaked me out. Me too. And Paul, I apologize. I know you were raised with birds. Yes. I don't like it. When birds are in the house. I don't think they should be. They should be in the sky, period. Yeah. Paul was raised with birds, but he didn't like them. No, no, no. I know. I'm just saying. I really, the bird's presence concerned me. Yes, very upsetting. And I felt like the bird was a better father than Billy's foster father. Yes. And possibly Lena as a mother. I'm not sure. Let me break down a little bit about these.

58:31Jason Mantzoukas:Can I just say one thing, Paul, before your stats? No stats. Oh, okay. So, Ashley, I just want to ask, when Ashley, you know, lies about being sexually assaulted and raped, so that happens. Can we watch that scene for one second? Let me ask my question first, Paul. So, Billy rejects her. She immediately changes course and jumps in the water. Now, I'm not sure. Looking back, I'm like, was she being pulled out by the Riptide? I don't know. It felt like either she really was being affected by a Riptide, perhaps. But more it felt like if you're not going to give me the attention that I want this way, here's another way to force you to give me your attention.

59:16But then there was the storm, which confused it as well. So I couldn't quite tell. It was so difficult because I was working with the reality that she actually was struggling in the water. That she did almost die.

59:29Jason Mantzoukas:Well, let's just check it out. And that Billy saved her. And she still did what she did. Yeah. Which is really wild, Ashley. Really troubled stuff. So this is her splashing around. Let's get out of here. Oh, yeah. And that these creeps are filming the whole thing. Filming the whole thing, but also. And then don't do anything with the footage. And leave her for dead. Yes. But also, why? They're like, let's get out of here so we don't get grounded? Why don't they admit it? They're afraid. Like, they're letting Billy get kicked out of camp. He's being kicked off Circus Island. They're letting it happen.

1:00:03I would believe that if, well, here's, honestly, the story I told myself, because the movie didn't give this to me, but it was also there somehow, some way. My story was that Carlos... This is a man at the top of his game. Top of his game. Vis-a-vis trapeze. This is a man that is Olympic level athlete?

1:00:37Elite trapeze artist. My story was that he has such an anger issue and such a rage problem that to tell this dad that they went outside at night and got out of that tent. By the way, why were they sleeping in the tent when their bedrooms were inside?

1:00:53Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Anyway. And the campers had their own huts. They were really terrified of him. Yes. Right until he's abusive. I think so. Well, he also like, he abandons everybody all the time. He abandons Gabby when she's a baby. He abandons them. They're like, oh, tomorrow is going to be the big show. Your friends and family are coming. and all this stuff's happening. He's like, but I won't be here. I'm gone. Can't make it. I'm out. I wish I could, but I won't be. I have to go achieve my dream, which is not you, family, or not you, other family. It is neither of these families of the sisters I fucked.

1:01:28I just want to drill down into that like Carlos did. He's fucking these sisters, and he's like, but I still got to go do the circus in Mexico because that is my dream.

1:01:39Jason Mantzoukas:He says that whole thing, you have the same eyes as my sister and face and nose and body these are twins that look identical and he's like wow you the eyes it's everything buddy now i'm just gonna give you a quick rundown because i'm sure this will come up as we go out into the crowd three generations of landers women and boys collaborated on this made for tv movie ruth landers okay uh she escaped germany in 1938 and Audrey, she was born in 1956. She plays Lena, the one with the straight hair. She married Donald Berkowitz, an executive of some sort of packaging company. They had twins Adam and Daniel, who appear in this movie.

1:02:17Jason Mantzoukas:Daniel plays Tucker, the kid with the rat tail, and he continues to act. Was rat tail the one that the sort of circus MC? Not video camera. Yeah, ring master, what are they called? Yes. I thought he did a great job in that role. Oh, yeah. And I could see even up here that he's got something. Well, Adam, who plays Tyler, the camera kid, took his father's last name and is not involved in entertainment. Now, Judy, born two years after Audrey, she plays Jenny, the one with the curly hair. She's married to a Dodger. They have daughters, Lindsay, who plays Gabrielle, and Christy, who plays Mandy. Oh, wow.

1:02:59Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. Yeah, I figured. Now, they are also on my Super Sweet 16. Yes, Christy's birthday was on My Sweet 16, where, and this is where it all comes together, she had it at the Ringling Museum. Because the Sweet 16, that MTV show, My Sweet 16. Now, she had it at the Ringling Museum because, and this will tie the whole thing together, the family is from Sarasota, where Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus do their winter training. Hence, the circus tent. And that is probably the genesis of the idea. And we all go backwards from that. By the way, here's the thing. I think that the idea of a circus training movie, that's really interesting.

1:03:46I'd love to see that. Right? Why does that start at minute 50? Don't know. But also, why on an island? Yes. But even still, I'm like, okay. I'm willing to be like, weird island, haunted, circus. Okay, but why is everybody so old? Yes, and why is there an attempted murder? Here's the thing. Everybody in this movie is somehow both too old and too young. They're too old to be vibrant, thriving athletes, and the kids are too young to be like sexualized in the way they're being sexualized. If you don't mind me saying.

1:04:29Jason Mantzoukas:It's Sarasota, so rules are different there. But that's it. You're right. It's Florida, baby. That's the thing. This movie's playing by Florida rules. It's true. Like Ed Maranero is like hot to go. Like he's like, you know, so I can see how in the retirement community, in the 55 and over community, he is an elite athlete. I also see how. When he's like, because they say she even, she begs him. His wife begs him. She says, the camp is doing great. We're no longer in debt. You don't need to go to Circus Mexico, you know? And he's like, this is my dream. This is my time. He says the phrase, I hold the world in my hands.

1:05:13Vis-a-vis how big he's going to become after performing trapeze. I really wanted to know, though, how much do you get paid? Like, this is a professional road to nowhere for him.

1:05:26Jason Mantzoukas:And by the way, he also talks about learning a special maneuver, like a special triple flip, which we never see executed, nor does he ever train for. What a great, like, little bit of a thing you could put in the movie to be like, to watch him getting better and better and succeeding, you know he's going to do it. It would be more fulfilling to be like, oh, he actually learned how to do this thing. The movie would be better if he died

1:05:54I mentioned earlier Everybody would be better off if he died, period I bet he has a life insurance policy Honestly, it would be so wonderful For these sisters to raise a family together On an island That's like a dream come true

1:06:07Jason Mantzoukas:Have the ghost take the corporeal shape of the guy And then have the So you think the sisters should fuck the ghost I smell a sequel All right, let's go to the crowd. We've talked, and there's a lot more on the bone here. Hi, what's your name and what's your question? Hi, my name's Nathan. So assuming this camp is for-profit, given that Billy... 100%. Yeah, right. I don't think they got, like, the 401c application done in time. Are they doing forensic accounting on Circus Island? Yeah, no, no, no, luckily. But how did Billy make it there, and is the camp funded from foster care money? oh that's a great question you're right Billy should get kicked out I think that the public school provides them field trips you don't have to pay extra to go I also think Lena is trying to take care of Billy so I think she kind of ensured that he got there so that I guess he could drill her daughter

1:07:07Jason Mantzoukas:what's your name what's your question hi Jesse I just have a quick theory I actually got the vibe that they made this movie because Mandy, the younger daughter, she was the only one they actually showed do all the tricks that she said she could do. I think that she was actually part of the Ringling or whatever, and they decided they were going to make the movie for her. I wondered about that, too. That makes sense. The tough thing about Mandy's actual skill level is she had one trick, and she did it over. We saw that one 15 times. She did the flip at the picnic bench. She did the flip at the picnic bench.

1:07:44Jason Mantzoukas:I'm sorry, sir. Do you rep Mandy?

1:07:50We get it. You love Mandy. What? She should get more work? Here's my question, though. We know that Mandy's been training for circus since she was five. Why didn't Carlos train his sons? Yeah. Well, I will say Rat Tail is training. Like he's doing in the montages, Rat Tail's very present. That's fine. But the other kid just does video. Yeah, he's just recording it. He's just peeping and creeping. But why hadn't they been starting their training process earlier?

1:08:20Jason Mantzoukas:Because by the way, they didn't know that they were going to get video evidence of a faked sexual assault. Yeah. They were just straight up getting... Peeping and creeping. Well, I mean, I guess they saw there was a little bit of manipulation, but they're just taping. I mean, they got stuff on there. They definitely have Ed Maranera fucking... Honestly, release the tapes. Release the tapes. Release the tapes. Please, release the tapes. Wait a second. Is this Epstein's Island? Is this? Is this? Yes. Circus Island is Little St. James. You're right. Ed Maranera hung himself? I don't believe it. All right.

1:08:57Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, your question. Hi, what's your name? Linnea. Hi, Linnea. So Jesus is actually credited in the IMDb credits. Yeah, I saw that. and apparently it just says Jesus and then self as who he is. And apparently there is a special thanks in the credits of the film to Jesus. So someone from the production specifically made a Jesus IMDb account to be able to credit Jesus. I will say, and now look, you say like he wasn't there. I do think that those were his footprints going back to my beach theory. Right? That's what he does. He's known for the footprints on the beach thing. You get Jesus. I tried to get him a couple times.

1:09:35Jason Mantzoukas:He's hard to get because you've got to fly him from Florida. He won't. He was in the dictator with me. Yeah, he'll do local hire stuff, but he won't travel. All right, hi. What's your name? What's your question? My name is Jason, and this is a question. Cool. This guy gets it. And I think you're going to like this question. It's been a while since we've had one. In the climax, when Ashley is behind the pole and being like, no, she's concerned about the net, there is a shot of her. She's wearing a wedding ring. which adds an entire dynamic to her character that is not developed at all so i think ashley's married yes i saw that as well and i was like what the fuck is this but what i thought was because she's in that scene she's stealing from the house she's snuck into the house and is stealing money and stealing stuff so i was like oh did she steal that ring and put it on and maybe they cut the scene in which they show her put i was like is because i also was like is ashley married because I was like heartbroken.

1:10:35Because that's my girl.

1:10:37Jason Mantzoukas:I did do a little research on Ashley and where she is now and she's a life coach now. I love it. And I just want to be clear Paul, you mean the character. Yes. Hi, what's your name? What's your question? Hi, my name is Van Duncan and my question is about Jamaica Joe. We haven't we haven't been talking about the most interesting character, Jamaica Joe, it is fake dreads. We're obviously not in Jamaica. Is this his only job is transporting children to and from this little, little St. James, because where is he getting this paid for this? And also he enjoys it too much. Yeah. Like, what is that? By the way, it does feel like that was an actor choice.

1:11:18Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, I have this, like, like, it's like, well, you got like, like a hat with dreads in it. Like, yeah. And he's like, I'll wear that. And no, I disagree with you. I feel like the Lander sisters showed up and said, you're wearing this. Your character's name is now Jamaica Joe. I did wonder about Jamaica Joe though because also because the trip from the mainland seems to be five minutes. Yeah. So for me, I'm like, you're giving everything you have Jamaica Joe in the hopes of, I think a tip, but this has been such a short trip that like you're not getting much. Jamaica Joe is like an Uber boat driver.

1:11:53Jason Mantzoukas:Sorry, Paul. I think Jamaica Joe is like an Uber boat driver, right? I mean, that's what he's supposed to be like. But he's also But he's also, I think, responsible for the party vibe. Like when they show up like it's spring break, I believe it's not because they're excited for circus camp. That's because it's Jamaica Joe. Okay, so then that brings me back to my first question early on, which is like, we know it's Florida. But this movie, I don't think posits it's Florida. I think this movie goes, it's Jamaica or it's an island. I think they're going, it's an island. I think you might be right.

1:12:28Right, it's an island somewhere. I mean, the other crazy thing you have to remember about Jamaica Joe is that he's such a good time that when Lena, who has a fear of the water, according to you, Paul. She does.

1:12:39Jason Mantzoukas:Well, mine, I'm right about that, right? She gets off the boat. She's singing. Yeah, that's true. That's the power of Jamaica Joe. Yes. What's your name and expression? Christina, and on that, when she's out and the storm hits, she's like, oh, land is two hours away. I guess I have to go to that island. and then the island becomes a five-minute shuttle every time anyone else wants to go. True. How many boats are coming to fill that circus tent? Because it looked like hundreds of people. What's she doing? To see a student show. What's she doing with the dolphins? Real question. What is she doing?

1:13:14Other than naming them. She gives them names. I think she's researching them. How? Well, that's where they shut it down.

1:13:23Jason Mantzoukas:They're like, you didn't do much. I mean you just named them lady yes that's what I like I when she got fired I was like that's fair at one point they go you haven't met our other sister she's a dolphin yeah to which point I'm like oh that will come in later no no I mean wouldn't it have been cool if the dolphin had saved Ashley that's what I was hoping for you know or killed her but no yes or killed her oh if the dolphin killed Ashley fuck that would have been cool as hell yeah your name and your question My name is Susan I just want to know How long is this camp? How much money Are they making at the camp?

1:14:00And how good are they getting Within the time frame These circus acts I don't understand How quickly this is happening It makes no sense Well I will say Very dangerous stuff

1:14:08Jason Mantzoukas:Very quickly While watching She says all our bills are paid How? She says all our bills are paid If you don't mind What I love about this question Is you asked the question About the financials of the camp And someone over here went Yes! like my question is being answered show me the spreadsheet well listen i think what they're hoping for is that even if they're not this could be sort of like a a beta test of it all and i think they're hoping because you know lena has that whole conversation about teach someone give someone a fish feed themselves for a day teach someone how to fish feed themselves for a lifetime so i think what they're hoping is this is sustainable.

1:14:50It does seem pretty seasonal as a camp.

1:14:52Jason Mantzoukas:Well, yeah, because they said you don't have to go back to your school. I was like, yeah, you do. Where are you going to get the influx of children for the camp? Well, I mean, if they really scale it up, they can be getting kids from more than just the Patterson, New Jersey high school. How about that? The Patterson pipeline. How about kids that want to do circus camp, not fucking Ashley, who's here to do murder? what are we talking about and by the way they really could open up and franchise this because it doesn't need to be on an island in fact it's worse an insurance would never let this exist do you think that this is the beginning is this the beginning of the Ringling Brothers Circus is this an origin story of it in 2005

1:15:42Jason Mantzoukas:there was no elephants they really got rid of that There were no animals. Yes, your name and your question. My name is Victoria, and my question is, why was Carlos so anti-telephone, yet he had high-speed internet? Loved it. Oh, yeah. He didn't have a telephone. Who knows why? And how did the kids... I honestly think something like there were collectors calling him or something. Someone was coming after him. Why have a telephone, then someone can call and offer you a job?

1:16:13Jason Mantzoukas:Our friend from Australia, where are you? Do you have a question? I want to give you a question. You traveled so far. You don't have to have a question, but I wanted to give you a chance. Okay. Just to June's point about Sailor Circus, is it possible that the circus is like a shipwreck? Because they have nets and they have a crow's nest and they have ropes. Maybe this movie is trying to tell us something about the origins of circus. So circus was started by sailors. Wow. who crashed on the shore and had to entertain themselves. Boy, are you envisioning a version of this movie that is so much more interesting than the movie itself is interrogating?

1:16:55Yeah, that would be awesome. I love that. That would be awesome. You're right. So many of the elemental circus components can be found on a tall ship. Like it's as if master and commander shipwrecked, And if the surprise went down and they were like, I guess we'll tumble? So much bad tumbling in this movie. So much bad tumbling. So many unsure-footed landings of flips. The problem with the montage, aside from it being the whole movie, was that when we get to the last one, well, even the show, our team's ready. We did it. We watched all this. We watched some work. We watched some persevere. or some fall, fall, fall.

1:17:40But we never see them excel. We just never see it. And we never see them, we also never see them get better. We're not charting growth.

1:17:50Jason Mantzoukas:I just realized something. When she cut the net like that, Ashley, wouldn't people have died? I'm so glad you brought this up, Paul. Before? Well, they show that. They show that, but this is another crazy fucking thing about the way Ashley's mind works. is it seems... The Ashley Mind Virus? It seems that she cut it in a way where she knew when Gabby was going to come up. She knew other people were going to fall and that the force of them was going to open it a little bit, a little bit further than the next person. And then she knew when Gabby, big old volleyball playing Gabby, six-footer, that she was going to bust that thing open.

1:18:31Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Right, so she really was duplicitous. Well, I mean, she's a genius. She's a genius. She is an evil genius. Yeah. I'm just going to read some notes that I made in order. Okay. Ashley is wearing pink pumps at circus camp. Ashley is an absolute psycho, and I love it. I would rather be watching the movie that is about Ashley slowly killing everybody who won't engage in her drama. Ashley is relentless. I respect her game. She gets caught every single time but still persists in being awful. Ashley is unreal She's a fucking boss Ashley is an alpha I wish this was Ashley's movie Holy shit Ashley's doing straight up sabotage I guess Ashley is this movie's villain?

1:19:18Now Ashley does have one moment Of regret and humanity Oh my god She tries to stop Every time she's hanging on the pole And being like loser Or whatever whatever she's saying it's so funny this character is so good and I'm only angry that there's like 40 minutes of the movie she's not present I know

1:19:45Jason Mantzoukas:now obviously we have opinions about this movie people out there with a different opinion it is now time for second opinions hi my name is Harley this is going to be bad so sorry no it's going to be great here we go here's a little song I wrote in the last 30 minutes of the show no problem be happy it's about an island off the coast of Sarasota Florida and ghosts it's circus island it was overstimulating to me but I guess it made some other folks happy it's second opinions yes amazing amazing just know everybody who is singing a second opinion song tonight just came up with it right now. All right, so here we go.

1:20:37Jason Mantzoukas:It's now time for Second Opinions. All right. Hi, I'm Kevin, and I just want to preface this by saying that scene before the show where they had a bunch of yellow balloons. This is what inspired this song. Great. Circuses just need yellow balloons, yellow balloons, yellow balloons. Someone only bought yellow balloons, yellow balloons, yellow balloons. Please don't talk about all the yellow balloons, yellow balloons, yellow balloons. I'll stop singing about the yellow balloons, yellow balloons, yellow balloons. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you. Now, for all of you who have not been in attendance tonight, I said to everybody, I said, who has a second opinion song?

1:21:33Jason Mantzoukas:No one had it. So these two people came up and they delivered amazing second opinion songs. But guess what? We didn't need them because there are no second opinions. Yes, there are no second opinions. For the first time ever in 400 episodes, there is not a single. review on Amazon. No five-star reviews. No one-star reviews. Okay? There are no reviews. I'd like us to fix that. Yeah. The job here tonight is go home and write some reviews for Circus Island. We cannot have this continue. I can't believe that. of 400 episodes. I am surprised there's not more Amazon reviews because I do think this movie...

1:22:29There are none. Right, none. More than zero. Why are you so mad at us?

1:22:34Jason Mantzoukas:I just think in 400 episodes, there's been zero. We love you. Here's the thing. Paul, we love you. I do think that this movie has an opportunity to be a real class. I'm serious. There's things about this movie that are so great. I can't recommend the movie more highly I feel the same it was a joy in every way it's confusing in the most wonderful ways but yet it all makes sense I want these people to never retire and there are things, there are literally pages and pages of notes because I wrote down at certain points the boy who just says belly flop and jumps in an inch and a half of water. Incredible.

1:23:24Jason Mantzoukas:Incredible stuff. They bring an estranged girl to this island and she's like, give me a minute. And they go, okay, see you later. They immediately leave her just alone in the house. There's no, there's nothing. And that joke about swimming, swinging, which doesn't even seem to make sense. But yet they just commit to it. And yeah, I just love it. I love this movie. And I'm also like, you know, again, not to repeat myself from earlier in the show, but like the idea that we've never known about this, nor have known about the entire Lander Sisters oeuvre, that it sounds like we have many more movies to cover.

1:24:06Yeah, I do. I think I need to write a movie about the Lander Sisters. Oh, by the way. I do feel very inspired by them. I love this. Yeah. It's set in Florida? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, a movie about the making of Circus Island? Please let me play Ed Maranera. You got it.

1:24:26Jason Mantzoukas:I've got the gray chest hair. I'll get the rat tail. Let's get this. Jason Mantzoukas as Ed Maranera. As Carlos Carrera. In Circus Island. We will make our Jesus shirt. We'll make a Circus Island crew shirt so you can get the word out. Wow. Jason, June, any final thoughts? I mean, fucking hell. This was really, honestly, and I didn't know it was our 400th episode. And sorry to interrupt you about that. That's okay. Thank you, Paul. But honestly, it feels so right that it was. Yes. Because it feels like we're going to make 400 more. Oh. You know, it just. You know, I agree. It just feels like. I agree.

1:25:12It's honestly like a real reset. Cut to show is over announcement. No, I agree. This was exceptional. I was cackling with laughter today watching it. This was an absolute treat in every single way, in a way that I was like, this is why I'm still watching nonsense in the middle of the day, out of my mind, racing here to talk about it. I loved every minute of it. And here's the thing. This is just one of two exceptional island-based pieces of media that I'm consuming. I'd also love to shout out Widows Bay right here. Friend of the podcast, Katie Dippel. Incredible show. Amazing. Unreal. Another show about a haunted island.

1:26:05That's right. Which is better? You tell me. That's right.

1:26:08Jason Mantzoukas:Widows Bay or Circus Island, are they the same? Oh, God, that's right. And why aren't the Lander sisters on Widows Bay? And they can be. Yes. And that's the important thing. Let's get a Lander's on Widows Bay. Thank you for being here tonight with us. I know this is a freewheeling show. You have all been an amazing crowd. Not all of them. A handful of them. There's a couple of duds. thank you everybody thank you for coming out 400 episodes you have been amazing thank you everybody up in our booth thank you to Largo we love being here we'll let you know when we do another show bye bye eat shit LA

1:26:53Jason Mantzoukas:I hope you all enjoyed that magical voyage to Circus Island and for those of you going to summer camp there this year I hope that you are learning so many special skills thank you as always to our pals at Largo I'm talking about Flanny Griffey and skills in the booth. And yes, we did make the shirt. Jesus motorboated me on Circus Island. It is now available at how did this get made dot dashery dot com. That's right. A brand new T-shirt sticker iPhone case place to get your merch from the show. I mean, it still is T public, but now it's just how did this get made dot dashery dot com. You can also just go to H.D.T.G.M.

1:27:32Jason Mantzoukas:dot com to just have a cleaner path there. I want you to know that the show's not over. No, we give you now a chance to add your thoughts, and you can do that by going to speakpipe.com slash HDTGM. What's great about this is so many people are leaving us more messages because you don't have to call it. You can use your phone or your computer and just record a message. We've been loving these messages, but if you want to stay, you know, back in the old school and just type in your message, you can always do that on our discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm and then we will judge a handful of those worthy enough to play on last looks and make you all compete for the best correction and omission let me tell you next week you are going to want to be listening to last looks because we are sitting down with abbott elementary showrunner justin halpern he will be talking about his brand new book but Justin is one of the funniest guys, the creator of Shit My Dad Says, the original Twitter account.

1:28:36Jason Mantzoukas:He's just simply the best. We had a great time chatting with him. And just so you know, we will be back at Largo on July 31st and August 1st. Jason, June, and myself, we will all be there. Movies will be announced soon. And if you can't wait, then why don't you go see June and I, now I'm only in it for just a couple seconds, in the brand new RuPaul movie, Stop That Train, which is very, very funny. Go check out, support some independent cinema. It's so, so good. And June will be in the Legally Blonde prequel series L on Prime Video, premiering on July 1st. Oh, it's so good. You are going to love it.

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