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26:43That's the shirt, death smoochie. Time for you to die. But I think that they try to get Tad to be interesting because when you first see him, he's like doing that baseball play-by-play. But that's like, it's too long and it's not funny. And it's not funny for multiple reasons. But I would say one of them is, what are we trying to get from that? I don't even get that he's carefree. It's so hard because, yeah. he's set up like that moment we think it's Phoebe Cates' movie but like when she comes out to get him I know we're supposed to think this guy is hot and charming but for me I'm like get inside go in it's a fucking engagement party get inside it's suggesting that he has cold feet and I don't know why or if he does he's harmonicaing here comes the bride into a funeral he's pouting he's pouting for reasons that are never explained I feel like the movie wants us to think they shouldn't be together him and Phoebe Cates he doesn't want to be married to her he's just waiting for his angel to I think that's what that's why he's equivocating or something but it doesn't make sense because I'm immediately on her side and I'm like this fucking piece of shit sucks I'm serious fuck this guy I felt the same way Fuck this guy I hope the devil comes And marries Phoebe Cates I can't believe By the way I'm gonna blame this On Phoebe Cates But I really think That role was written She's a model She's supposed to be Super close to her dad Well she models In the ethereal campaign No I think her dad Was like You're my perfect model Come here Smoochie smoochie Like I feel like Don't do that to me again I don't like that Don't do that I don't like that Don't do that Because I mean clearly The dad is Smoochie smoochie The dad is Ooh, smoochy, smoochy.

28:38The dad is... Let's all hope all of us tonight later are like, how about a little smoochy, smoochy? Smoochy, smoochy. I feel like the dad wants her to be a model. And the reason why the whole company is going down the drain is because they react so negatively to her face. The company is going under because of her face. Okay, but I know all of this. But I think... I know all of this. I know all of this. I watched this. I understand this. I'm an expert on this movie. This I know. But I think, again, that's what the movie is showing us. And I think that's probably how it was written. I think she was also probably written to be a little frumpy.

29:11Like, the red dress, I think, was supposed to look ill-fitting and unflattering on her. Especially later, she's in, like, she appears to be wearing men's briefs over pants at one point. But unfortunately, like, she just always looks beautiful. And even when she's called to just be shrill and reacting and screaming, because she's Phoebe Cates, we're always on her side, charmed by her. She's the most charismatic performer in the movie, full stop. You can't take your eyes off of her. She's hilarious. And she does an incredible job with what she has. I mean, she also says the line that it's something like, my dad's acting like he's in a real poo-poo mood.

30:00And I, after she did it, I really thought to myself, okay, June, if you saw that in a script, like, how do you, how would you approach it? Like, what, you have to say it. It's in there, you have to say it. Like, you have to find your way into that. Aaron Sorkin wrote it, you can't change it. You can't change a goddamn thing. You have to say it. And I was like, I don't think I can. I don't think I'm good enough to do that. So, she is truly one of the best we have. I will say this. One of the best we have. No, of course, our love for Phoebe Cates is well documented in this podcast. But I do want to point out one thing about her.

30:38That when she gets kicked in the hiney, her response is, where's my gun? Yeah. Like her immediate response is, now I'm going to shoot you. I'll show you. I'll show you where's my rifle. She has a shotgun. She's like, I'm going to kill you for kicking me in the hiney. That was after kick one. Not even kicked to. She's ready to kill this man. She is. By the way, I wish she had. I did too. I was like, let's go. She had killed Tad, and then she and the angel fell in love. That's a movie I'm going to think about in the hotel later. But can we talk about, I think, the most charismatic, the most charismatic trio are the party ninjas.

31:32The party ninjas. Holy shit. I love the party ninjas because they are not cool. They seemingly aren't that fun and they're real dumb. And like the bachelor party seems to have been for four people. Yeah. And there might have been women there because when they come in they're like, let's see this woman. It's like. No, I think that's the, they had like a 16 millimeter porno called The Tender Bartender. Are you being serious? I'm so sorry, Paul. Did you not see that The Tender Bartender was featured prominently? I was too busy looking at the... Or maybe it was the blow-up doll. I was looking at the pin the tail on the donkey.

32:12And I was like, that was part of the bachelor party? That's the worst bachelor party in history. But also... And they all left him. I know this is neither here nor there, but in terms of the cadence of wedding events, it was too early for a bachelor party. We're just doing the engagement party. We've just announced this. It also, oh, I see. It's not the night. I agree with you because the minute they were saying, oh, it's your bachelor party, I was like, oh, is the wedding in the next few days? Yes. Is this imminent? Is the clock ticking now? Is this movie going to end at a wedding? By the way, it should have.

32:52Wouldn't that have been much better? Nope, in the forest. Nope. Yes. Baby dears. Get me more baby dears. In a clubhouse we have no reference for. Perhaps no movie in our entire history have I thought every step of the way I understood where this movie was headed. And you were wrong. You were set ass wrong. The Party Ninjas get, I'm going to say, 40 legitimate news outlets to show up to someplace called the Press Club where they live in the suburbs so that they could debut an angel from heaven. But meanwhile, the Party Ninjas seem to run a theater where they could have simply held a... They do?

33:37No. Oh. They are... You mean the place where that's located? Yeah, that's the press club. No, no, no. Guys, their home, I think, is the Party Ninjas live above a theater set shop. Thank you. Oh, okay. So they don't run that theater. That's just where their loft is. You mean George and Rex and the other guy are just hanging out above a... None of it makes sense. By the way, this is a small issue that I have with the Party Ninjas. Our main guy, our bachelor, Tad, when he wakes up drunk with the inflatable girl, his tie is just slightly askew. His tie never came off for the bachelor party, nor did it get very askew.

34:22It was sort of like the first move that you make if you get in the car. Like, ugh. It just stayed in the car. It was still very high up on the neck. He looked unpartied. Oh, he was fine. He looked totally fine. Well, except for the brain tumor. Yes. Except for the gigantic brain tumor. Then splash. We hear a splash. Splash. Water pours into the apartment. Pours in. Listen, I'm no scientist. But when we go back out to that pool and see the water displacement from her 120-pound body. Not even. Not barely. The wings. With the wings. The wings weigh a lot. 820 pounds. But she has lifted out, like, I want to say four feet of water.

35:11Oh, yeah. It's six inches of water in the house. Okay, I thought about it for so long because I'm like, well, you are falling from heaven. So that's a certain amount of force that's coming down. Did her wings break? Like, I'm assuming she was flying and she may have hit like a power line. So I don't think that she fell from that high. Hold on a second. Whoa. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. There seems to be a consensus. Who has the answer? Somebody here will know. Sir, what's your name? Paul, be careful of the man in a putter in a bra shirt. I knew he was safe because he was an official merch.

35:47Really be careful. All right. Why is her wing broken? Because she hit the satellite. Oh, she hit the satellite. Somehow, I missed that. I missed that, too. Somehow we all missed that, but all of you watched it? Keith, tell me what happened. So she's sent on her merry way by God, and she's headed towards Earth, and then all of a sudden a satellite comes out of nowhere. Do we see this? Yes. Oh, and then... When? It's a POV shot. Okay, we have a lot of... Who's POV? A POV shot from the satellite? From Keith's point of view? She was like wearing a GoPro. That's the footage we saw. Wow. How did I miss this?

36:27Oh, God, we all missed it. You know what? Sometimes I don't pay attention during the time. This movie sounds a lot better from Keith's point of view. Okay. So she broke her. So this is kind of a commentary on Star Wars, not the movie, but the arms race, satellites in the sky. You know, it's very prescient. Reagan era Star Wars. Yes, yes. So that's how she breaks her wing. She falls. All right, so the satellites fall. I just want to say, if you don't mind me just backing up for one second to the party. When Tad is pouting out in the rain, Phoebe, and he is embarrassing. Because these are not young people.

37:02No. They should have been. This movie would have been better if they were all in high school or something like that. If they were young. Sure. You know what I mean? But they are old. Old enough to know better. And he's pouting in the back. She comes out there and she goes, you know they all hate you. Yeah. You know, everyone in our families hates you. And then he goes... And I do too. I'm with everyone else. I also hate you, Dad. But it's such lazy writing too because the way they make Phoebe Cates unlikable is like, I know, no more fun. Like she's always saying, no more fun. And that's like a weird thing.

37:45And the party ninjas are actively trying to sabotage her in a way that's like, you know, I think like toxic beyond. George is a true psychopath. Yeah, when they came out with that net. What? The party ninjas are the government in E.T. Absolutely. Absolutely. They are like animal control trying to capture this. But first of all, they're trying to market the angel to this guy. I don't know who the fuck this guy is. They're trying to sell the angel. The angel is yet not a commodity. It's like me trying to sell E.T. a year before E.T. comes out. I'm like, it's a little guy. Big eyes. Phone home. I'd be like, what?

38:35What are you talking about? Like, you can't pre-sell, like, merch. Like, we got the bumpers. We got the shirts. It's like, for what? For what? Oh, no. And they don't even have her yet because their big thing is like, we got to get her in a net and then we'll lure her away with French fries. We got a French fry. I was like, these fucking maniacs need to be put down. But what I do like. BBK should be shooting these guys with a gun. But what I do like about them is that they do provide a dress code for the press conference. You guys can dress casual. To the press? You tell the press how to show up?

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41:49But you have a for-real angel. You go into a church with an angel, and the priest is like, go tell it to the Baptists. The church would be so excited to have an angel. they would be like we fucking did it holy shit it's real they would be so excited she's up there doing angel shit and he's like i don't want to look at it get out of here well that's the thing with this movie interestingly there was the in on a newspaper headline it said that priest from that church was moved to a different parish because well he only moved to a different parish to get better weed yeah because you'll notice when he was around rex was like i don't want to hang out with him him smoking weed too far minneapolis what minneapolis very religious town oh no don't say that that was the thing that was so interesting it's like whenever there is a choice to make you don't need to make it weirder like that's a priest he's holding confession let's give him a joint wait why why are we over complicating it because we are dealing in a world of such crazy, fantastical nature.

43:02And I'm all for it. Like, yes, she's an angel. But no one questions it. It's like, she's an angel. Got it. No one's like, check her wings. No one has a question. No, she's not. She's just a kook. Nope. Okay, yeah, she's an angel. She's an angel. Oh, everyone bought it. It's real. It's like everybody in this movie has been waiting for this. And it just happens to be today. But it's not. It isn't really a surprise. Or it's like there's other angels. It's a world in which there's lots of angels. We just got one here. I mean, that's not the case, but everybody does feel very okay with it. I will say, I thought she handled some of her comedic beats quite well.

43:37The french fry sequence, I laughed at, you know? Was she upset that the hamburger was made of meat? Gotta be. But how would she even know? Or that it was a deeply out-of-season, unripe tomato slice on it. The tomato slice was, like, mostly yellow in the middle. and I was like, this is a scathing indictment of Wendy's. Scathing. I also don't think it was a square burger, was it? No. No, it wasn't. So please know that Paul and I, someone, his mom had bought us a private sushi chef for our first year anniversary and this woman Paul's head is going to pop right off. This woman arrives at our apartment many years ago and she's not Japanese.

44:24I love sushi. So I got you a private sushi chef at your house. Long story short, it's a little uncomfortable to have this person in our home. And Paul and I are like doing small talk with her. Can I also say the most uncomfortable thing about it, and not to be offensive in any way, it was just a white woman. And there was something about it that just felt like, huh. It's just very, very strange. It's like, what are we all doing here? I like sushi. I go to a lot of different restaurants. I can remember twice when it was white people. When it once was in my house, and the other time was in Hawaii, and that man was surrounded by Asian people who made fun of him for being white.

45:15It made me feel better. Yes. So there were so many things happening, and we had to do about four hours with her. But during this time... Sushi is a notoriously quick meal. This wasn't. This wasn't. Because she's in her home, we didn't... And it was also, we had a tiny apartment. There was nowhere for us to go and not be with her. So we're watching her wash her knives. We're watching... And we're also helping her. We're doing her dishes. Like, it was a very strange experience. We didn't barely have a kitchen. We had like a small counter space. Yes. So the whole interaction was so terrible. But just to go back to tomatoes for a second, this is where I really started to get worried because she said to us, you know what I'm about to say.

46:03She said, we're talking about food at night. And I said, so if you spend any time in Japan, just trying to get to what her experience with sushi is. And she said, yeah, I did. She did. And then she said, but I, what I really love is every day I go to Subway and I get a Subway sandwich.

46:23And the tomatoes, the way they slice them so thin. And I'm thinking to myself, the Subway tomatoes are, they're like the tomatoes in this movie. They are. They're not real tomatoes. And they literally don't have a taste. But now I guys wanted to let you know, Subway has stepped up their game. Oh, God. You can't be preparing sushi for people in their home. They're slicing their own meats now. Patrick Mahomes told me, the Sisono Meats. Him and Steph Curry sign off on it. Wait a minute. This feels like promotion. You can't be in that situation and then just waxing ripsonic about the subway tomato.

47:06She also gave us a tip for eating sushi the right way, which was wrong. She's like, and again. between the two halves of a six inch sub roll. She's like, you got to put it in the roll. I don't know if that was wrong. A little oil. It was wrong. A mayo. All right. You want this sushi Mike's way? Put some balsamic on this ahi.

47:41I was at a restaurant the other day. I was at a restaurant in Maine the other day, and I said, I'll get the grilled salmon. And the waitress said, you like salmon? I was like, whoa, what? I was like, wait, it sounds like you don't like this. She was like, I hate salmon. I was like, please, tell me how you really feel. and I'm saying this all but all of it had like the heaviest Boston-y Massachusetts-y so she was like oh my god you like salmon? oh I think salmon is disgusting I was like what are you talking about? and I was like yeah I'm gonna get it anyway I got it it was delicious and she came by and she was like what did you think of that salmon?

48:33and I was like yeah I thought it was absolutely delicious She was like, ugh. She was like, the owner said he wants me to get a picture with you. He knows who you are. I have no idea who you are. I love her. I love her. And I was like, let's do this. I love this woman.

48:53I was like, I'm home. I love it. Last night, I did take a compliment for John Cryer.

49:05someone came up to me and said i just want to say big time adolescence meant a lot to me and i was like uh-huh and i never heard that i didn't know what it was either and i quickly googled it's a machine gun kelly pete davidson movie that came out two years ago and he said i watched that all the time when i was in high school and i'm like you look like you're in high school now this movie came out two years ago. You can't rap rhapsodically about this. Whatever. I said, aw. This episode has the most usage of rhapsodic in podcast history. And I said, oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much. You didn't correct him.

49:48I love that. Had a great time making it. Machine Gun Kelly, weird guy, but we had fun.

49:57Holy shit. I'll never correct anyone even the guy who once said I was Robin Williams at airport security TSA going through LAX the guy's like I know you and I was like oh hey and he's like I know who you are funny guy and I was like oh thanks so much and he's like Robin Williams

50:24and I laughed and I was like alright And he goes, very funny guy. And then I was like, oh, he's not joking. He's like, I'm not going to blow up your spot, Robin Williams. And Robin Williams had been dead for some time. What?

50:44Holy shit. You should have, as you were walking away, been like, hey, bro, Google me. And then leaned in for a smoochie. I was the angel coming back for him. I'm close to Robin Williams today. Oh, my God. Holy shit. My favorite moment in this movie was Tad, who lives in the town, he lives there, drives to the gas station, he goes, where's the press club? You live here, man. You would have the equal amount of knowledge of the town. Also, forgive me, but what's a press club? It seems to be a place where press conferences happen. in a small town? In a tiny town? Is there use for that? Is that a real thing?

51:31Am I just being a fool? I don't know. It didn't even look like it looked like a high school auditorium stage. When Phoebe Cates and her father are having a screaming match and her only option is to put herself into the closet I was like, yes this is the movie. This is the movie I want to watch. When she comes out with a hanger, like I'm going to fuck my dad up with this hanger. I'm like, yes, the dad and the priest are creeps. Get them both out of here. Let Phoebe be Phoebe. Bring in Fred. Fred fucked the angel. Oh, my God. I was trying to understand, like, what the difference between the angel gaze was and just, like, her falling in love with Tad.

52:23because it's like, well, everybody's under her spell at points, but they're not getting the kiss of death. They're not going to be transported into another dimension. She wants to catch everybody. She hypnotizes. They seem affected by her, but I don't know that she is as into them. I see. Half her powers. Because I think a part of what's happening is just like they're falling in love with women who don't speak. And there's this sort of like transfiction. She's like a villa. She's like a villa in the Harry Potter story. She is a beauty that people can't help but be like, you know, the dad is the best example.

53:03He's like, absolutely not you ever.

53:08Like absolutely undone. I believe that angels have this, like the way Crocodile Dundee could hypnotize animals with the two fingers, you know? You could do that. I feel like the angel has that. You're doing a lot of finger work this tour. I did. The other night it was this. This and this. Which none of us liked. That's checking out. None of us liked it. Tonight it's this. But I remember like, but in Crocodile Dundee. Do you remember in the, I'm so sorry. In the movie, when he wakes up after the bachelor party and he's got the blow up doll, he puts it aside, he does this. He does? He sniffs. He does.

53:46I didn't see that. Sniffs his fingers. Oh God. With his own fingers, as if to say, oh, no, did I do something stupid? No, I'm okay. What? Whoa, whoa, whoa. There's a dead angel in the pool. Oh, no, we partied too hard. The stripper's dead in the pool, man. But that's, wow. He sniffs his fingers. I did not. I did not see that, or I blocked it out. It's got to be an improvised moment, because all I think, a lot of funny business stayed in this movie. But to your point, June, I do think that, yes, the angel has powers, but she's

54:28Jason Mantzoukas:not at full power until her wing is fixed. But, I will say this, you say she doesn't talk. I think she is talking. And as a matter of fact, we have supplemental clip four. I'd like to show you how her voice came to be. The kind of work that I've done film, in voiceovers. The first one I was invited to do was a film called Date with an Angel, in which Emmanuel Bayard played an angel who had fallen to earth. And the filmmakers wanted her to make otherworldly sounds. And evidently all she could think of to do was squeak. and so when they test marketed the film and this beautiful woman opens her mouth a squeak comes out and the audience fell on the floor laughing well that wasn't necessarily what they wanted and so the sound designer contacted me and said you know can you help us so they flew me out to Los Angeles and we worked on a sound stage and I basically replaced her voice for about 90 % of the film We did three complete separate tracks.

55:44One was a more musical track. One was sort of strange sounds, otherworldly sounds. And one was speech-like, but not too speech-like. And then, so they used that. The sound designer mixed my sounds with other sounds that he had and came up with this composite voice. For her. And so she created something called. I'm obsessed with that woman. I'm absolutely obsessed. That's her first job. Yes. And she created something called otherworldly speech. So supplemental clip five. We'd like to play some otherworldly speech. Oh, boy.

56:27Jason Mantzoukas:Because she does perform otherworldly speech. Okay. So this is Solitary Journeys of the Mind.

57:07Oh, my. an angel.

57:17I'm on a date with an angel. Press club. All right, we can kill that. That is... Holy shit. That is a five... That is a five and a half minute... A five and a half minute improvisational musical piece. Five and a half minutes? I find it, put a beat to it like this could be Enya I could believe this could be Enya this could be this is better than the whole movie wow so it's so interesting that she said they took those sounds and smashed them together because all I heard were squeaks I mean all I heard was whale noise it felt like so much so that at the end of the movie when she says she's been sent back here by God to heal him and also make music with him.

58:14I was like, with that voice? Yeah. No, it was, and it's especially clear, there are moments where, and I wonder if in the script they wrote lines for the angel, because there are scenes in which she is trying to have, she's trying to communicate with Ted. There are scenes that appear as though they are having a conversation, but she's doing dolphin sounds. And he is kind of like, okay. I mean, most of the movie, too, he's just talking at her and kind of filling in what she might be saying. And we're supposed to believe that for them, this is what it is to fall in love. To have a foundational inability to communicate using language.

59:06But it would make, I think that the fact that Tad is so earnest makes it less fun. Because if he was like a little, like he's so earnest and she's so earnest, I'm just like watching two people just be very earnest with each other and it's bumming me out. Like it's like, I'm like oh, we're, it's slow and they originally wanted Jim Carrey for this. And they said no. For the angel? No, no.

59:36They wanted Jim Carrey as the lead, and they said, no, he's too funny. We don't want funny. We want leading man. It's interesting because I wonder if Jim Carrey in, like, Taken Down a Notch, Jim Carrey, would have been incredible in an affable Tom Hanks-y way. I just don't know if he would have been able to do that. It's so hard because, again, we're never going to be on Ted's side because he has a fiancé who has done nothing to deserve this. treatment. So it's... Yeah, he's always a villain. And again, this angel, an agent of God on high, is here stealing someone else's man. And... And he's like, fuck her, let's go.

1:00:22Let's get out of here. She's kicking Phoebe Cates' ass in the woods. And then also... But also, like, then the end of the movie is... What, is that your guy? I'm going to fucking take your guy. Don't worry about it. But the end of the movie is also this moment where God actually wants you to make music. Like, we got to make music together. That's a crazy end. But he's like, God is like, yeah, this guy's got the goods. That's what I actually couldn't understand. When you said the last two minutes explained everything, I was like, not for me it didn't. I mean, it gave you information that made a little sense of some of what was going on.

1:01:03Well, it makes sense of why he falls asleep in the middle of the movie. When he's looking for her and they're at the press conference, he wakes up. I'm like, wait, so he was looking for her and he just fell asleep? He does that a number of times. Okay. In the woods, too. Brain tumor. In the woods, he's just kind of like, huh. Right. I would say the brain tumor is played very low. Like it's, yes, it's like background noise. If I really focus on it, I'm like, yeah, you've given me clues. But it's not like shocking me because I'm watching a priest smoke a joint. I'm watching guns get fired. I'm watching a girl put underwear on.

1:01:41I'm watching a guy get bit on the ass by a dog. Is it a better movie if she's not an angel, but to him, because of his tumor, he thinks she's an angel. Yes. And everybody else just is smitten with this beautiful woman. but he thinks she's some sort of from another, you know, blah, blah, blah. And that that is because there it none of it adds up and they just keep throwing stuff at you to be like, oh, what if he's got a brain tumor? Or dare I say it? And I know that we forbid it. Is it better as a Jacob's Ladder scenario? Yes. For him. And it's like they've all been around his bed the entire time.

1:02:24he's imagined the entire thing. What if it's a Jacob's Ladder scenario for the stripper at the bachelor party who dies in the pool? Done.

1:02:39Who imagines whose dying dream is that she's an angel who is rescued from this wretched existence by this man and curries God's favor so that they can become musicians together. That's the movie. All right, let's see what the audience has to say here. We've got a lot of people with questions. Maybe there's a theologian in the house. I don't know. Maybe there's an angel. What's your name and your question? My name is Sarah, and my question is, have you ever received a telegram as good as the ladybug? Oh, thank you so much. This is something that I did want to talk about. Thank you so much. The love bug.

1:03:20Love bug. A love bug is, I laughed a number of times in this movie. That was one of them. And I was like, this is the part I would get in this movie. This or probably George. The love bug is a singing telegram who delivers the singing as they are leaving. Like, the singing was a side effect of the telegram. The singing happens at the end and then all of his exit is just maniacal laughter. And it's like, hey, your boyfriend better love this.

1:03:56And then later in the movie, he drives by in his love bug. When he's getting into his car, he's like, that's my son.

1:04:08Give me a movie about the love bug. Hi, what's your name and what's your question? Hi, I'm Cassie. So in the massive exposition dump we get in the last like 30 seconds and she can suddenly speak. Part of it she explains that she has now been brought down to earth for her good behavior. Which raised some implications that in addition to not having a name or a voice, angels perhaps don't even have free will. But also are angels capable of bad behavior? Are angels on like a... Are they being monitored? They're fucking angels! Shouldn't they be exemplified of good behavior? Well, that was what... Yes.

1:04:50If you are an angel, you've already done your good behavior. Yes! You know, that's the whole idea. Wait a second. So you think an angel is someone who has died and come to heaven? Satan was an angel! Satan was an angel. You're right. Satan was a fallen angel. Just so we make sure that that is clear, someone just yelled, Satan was an angel. I felt so unsafe when that happened. Just in case it wasn't picked up, it was said like this in a moment of chilling silence. As if the audience knew this person would need to say this, someone said, Satan was an angel.

1:05:39thank you for quoting metal apocalypse lyrics at me I will say this though as soon as he said it the whole theater now smells of sulfur there's a fucking goat's head on stage alright your name and your question my name is Allison and my question is hi Hi. Hey, guys. Do you think this movie is about capitalism? Explain. I like it. Tell me. So the friends, when they meet the angel, their first response is to get money, monetize it. And also Phoebe Cates' dad, his first response is to make her the model. Yeah, it's all about business. And when she fails, he doesn't care about love. He wants to find another way to get money.

1:06:31Well, and he doesn't care about his daughter at all. He just cares about getting the angel. So Tad is a communist? I think so. I like it. I like this. I do believe this is a scathing indictment of 20th century capitalism. So far, this would be taking down Reaganomics. It's taking down Star Wars. This is in the greed is good Gordon Gekko era of American greed. Everybody just sees an angel and sees dollar signs. but the other thing is and I keep on going back to this they accepted her as an angel she does nothing angelic she's got these wings I mean that's pretty angelic but she does have wings and is an angel but we haven't checked them out no one goes let me see what do you want to do with them Paul?

1:07:22do you think there are angel wing authenticators? what's this? I've seen that show with Rebecca Romaine where they dress people up like Panthers and shit. You go to Heidi Clinton's Halloween party, you're gonna see fucking angel wings. I watch Victoria's Secret shows. They got angel wings. You do? Check it out. How often do you watch the Victoria's Secret angel wings? Study for this a lot. But I mean, but no one goes like, let me touch those shoulders. What do we got? I don't like the way you said that. I don't like any of this, by the way. I don't like when Paul says let me touch those shoulders.

1:08:00You wanted to sort of take a look under the wings to make sure they were really... You wanted someone to tug on them. Oh, so Paul, you are positing that she is a scam artist. My first instinct would be, check them wings. Yeah, show me what's under the hood. Show me your wings. I grew up in New York. You're going to tell me an angel. You got to prove it. Do some sort of magic and let me touch them wings. Wow. I agree. Unbelievable. I'm not going to take you at face value. I agree. I would be skeptical as well. I would be skeptical as well. I would want to see where those wings joined her back. First of all, she doesn't have to prove to either of you that she's an angel, okay?

1:08:45But the minute she makes dolphin sounds, I'd be like, oh, classic angel. when she was hypnotizing one of the party ninjas I thought they were going to pull like a little switcheroo and he's like behind this curtain an amazing angel and they're like oh when he reveals it it's going to be like the party ninjas with their pants down or something and then the angel's going to be gone but no she's still tied up in a chair and then you hear a reporter go oh that's not right well they've got her tied into a chair They've got a cloth over her mouth to stop her from doing hypnotic chirping. They take it off.

1:09:24Then they put one around her eyes as well? Do they? At one point, they have a press conference for a kidnapped woman. This is like, it really is. They bring out a woman tied to a, they bring out a hostage. They're like, we have a hostage. Yeah. And this is like, we are from Abu Ghraib. We have this. Why cover up her wings then? Like, that's actually when we need to see them. The choices that these men make... Thank you, June. Check them wings. Check them wings. I guess now I'm on your side. I will say, I think the t-shirt for this episode should be the t-shirt that they hold up when they're in...

1:10:04Oh, yes. When they're in the patent office or whatever. Holy shit. I like that. I wish the movie had now been about just party ninjas. Okay, your name, your question. Hi, I'm Megan. My question is, what is the angel manual that he's reading in the treehouse where he's like, oh, according to the book, your powers are fully recovered. Wait a second. That book was in the treehouse. I thought he got that from the library. He did. But he checks it out from the library and brings it to the treehouse. Oh, yeah. He's doing a lot. The book in the treehouse had like a colorful cover and the book in the library had like a leather bound, like old book.

1:10:43The library in this town has access to books from the 13th century. That's a no way. The library in this town has books that only Giles from Buffy has access to. Okay? That's what we're talking about here. This is not real books. And Tad is up here reading about angels like he's cracking the code. He's too dumb. He's way too dumb. Here's a book that no one cracks. The Bible. Yes. No one's looking at the Bible. A book that might have some information. This is like the mystical surprise. So that's why this episode we're giving away a Bible to everybody. Look under your seats. Under your seat, you will find a Bible.

1:11:31How did this get prayed?

1:11:37Black it out. That's the end of the show. Good night, Minneapolis. I was reading the book of Job. Can you believe this passage? It says right here, he who walks, now get this, he who walks through a valley. Now where are these valleys? That would be our whole show. Your name, your question. I'm Bess, and I just wanted to address the physical comedy. Oh, we're talking Ecclesiastes tonight. This is crazy. Sorry, go ahead. Please go ahead. Well, I mean, like, the dog. The dog attack. Like everything was just so over the top. The dog attack was from the POV of the dog, right? Going into the man's ass.

1:12:21And yet I forgot about that. I mean, it's not going into the man's ass. Seems like he went pretty deep into it. I feel like he got side cheek and back cheek. Yeah, no. I loved the dad, after he's been bit on the butt, which is like midway through the movie, on the hiney. Thank you. On the hiney. After he's been on the hiney, for the rest of the movie, he does a lot of sitting down and then jumping up and being like, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, my hiney. You know that I was attacked. I really laughed when the dad is in the boardroom and he's trying to describe who the new face of the ethereal beauty line is.

1:13:02The hardest laugh in the movie. I genuinely laughed so hard. He goes, I got it. It's my daughter's fiance's girlfriend. Mistress. Mistress. It's even better. And everybody's like, uh-huh. And it's like the casting notice for everybody in there is weasels. It's a boardroom full of weasels who are like, meh. Also, they were alluding to something going horribly wrong in that makeup company. Again, I think it was Phoebe's face. The guy comes to their house in the middle of the night with the marketing research reports, not sales. Like, we just did the testing. It's bad. And gleefully, gleefully tells him it's bad.

1:13:51I had to come over and tell you. It's bad. Your instincts are shit. Your daughter is the worst. I wrote down the press is witnessing an abduction. Go ahead. Your name, your question. Hi, I am Dina. Hi, Dina. Hi. Has anyone figured out what the date was? What date? What do you mean? Oh, I see. The titular date. Yeah, there doesn't appear to be a date. I think it's like a date, like his date with destiny. It's not like we go to Bennigan's. It's just a general my date with destiny. They go to Wendy's. It's interesting, though. By the way, what an indictment on Wendy's. I know. I didn't even think about that.

1:14:39It is interesting, though, because I do have a vague memory of the dad in the engagement party scene talking to Ted's mom. We haven't even touched on her. We haven't even said a word about her yet. We need to spend roughly the next two hours talking about her, Ted's dad. And also, where's Phoebe's mom? Unknown. But I do remember a reference to Tad working for her dad and that being the path. It seemed like that's where we were going. But I don't know because once Phoebe's on screen, she doesn't seem to care. I had an issue. It was confusing to me that when he shows up at her house, she throws stuff out the window.

1:15:26They weren't living together. So she's just throwing her own shit out the window. Well, some of it is like cards and stuff that he's probably given her or whatever. But like, yeah, I agree. It doesn't seem like that's a family that allows her boyfriend to sleep over. But then again, I agree. But that suggests that she lives with her parents, ergo is young. And so then I'm like, how old are these characters supposed to be? Now, hours away from the movie, it's kind of starting to make a bit more sense. I think we're supposed to believe that Tad's from the wrong side of the tracks and that this marriage is going to be meaningful to his family and to his mom because they are going to profit off of it in some way.

1:16:13Correct. Okay. Because he drives like a piece of shit car. And she drives a Corvette. She drives a Corvette, lives in a mansion, and her dad is like business, business, business. Capitalism. Capitalism. Keeping up with the Joneses. Okay, your name, your question. You have a screen grab. I'm Will. Less of a question. More of a reading of Roger Ebert's review of this movie. Okay, this is great. I actually... Well, can you play... We've never done this before. I was going to save this to the end, but I think it's worthy of it now. Can you play a review?

1:16:48Jason Mantzoukas:The most impressive thing about this whole movie is the way that Emanuel Bayard is actually able to play a convincing angel. At least I was convinced. If it's not an angel, then at least it's certainly a beautiful blonde with wings. On some kind of a basic level, I liked her performance. In fact, I think you can even guess what that basic level probably was. Sexual. And I liked a lot of the details of her relationship with Michael and Knight. You're being so kind. I think this movie is garbage. I did not think she was convincing. I didn't think it was magical. I didn't think the characters surrounding her were interesting.

1:17:17All she does is chirp. She is a beautiful woman, Gene. So what? There are lots of beautiful women in the world. There are not that many. Yeah. There are not that many. There are a few movies that are as bad as this one. Isn't there some kind of a basic human level upon which you can respond to beauty of this nature without having to just always be a critic all the time and see how dumb the movie is? What? Isn't there something pretty to look at there? Yes, and then the movie starts rolling. Take a still picture of her. Don't look at the film. I love nothing. I grew up every week watching at the movies on PBS.

1:17:51That's every, I, nothing is better than the animosity that Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert have for each other. It is so powerful how much they dislike each other and how much they are just constantly going after each other. I mean, and that is brilliant. Like, he's like, you know why I like her. Sexual. Sexual. So upsetting. Can we bring you on our second opinion, people, right now? Here's the thing. While you guys are lining up. If I'm Tad, have some fucking balls and go and have a conversation with Phoebe Cates and be like, it's over. They cut all of that stuff out because the morning after the bachelor party, he goes like, I know you called after you woke up and tried to explain the situation.

1:18:36I'm like, why didn't we get to see that scene? He says, I'll be there in a half an hour. Doesn't do that. Clearly doesn't even have any attention. This guy is a fucking piece of shit, and I hate him for what he did to our girl. Yeah, Ted might be a piece of shit, but you know what? There are people out there that think a little bit differently, because now it is time for a second opinion. What's with this angel in my pool? Where did she come from? What will my fiancé think when she sees her in my bed? And going to Amazon to leave a review. Gonna be fine, Louie, you. You look just like an angel.

1:19:33Oh, oh, and I'm recently engaged. I don't know what this movie's about anyway. I don't care about that. I give it five stars! Yes! Amazing job. Great job. Every single one of the 32 people who sang songs tonight were perfect. Thank you so much. Those are amazing songs. and now we're going to read some amazing reviews. On Amazon, there are 1 ,403 reviews of date with an angel average rating 4.7 out of 5 stars. 4.7 out of 5 stars. 82 % are 5-star reviews. Only 2 % are 1-star reviews. Mel Leonard writes, this is in 2018, title, A Movie That Has Remained as One of My Favorites for Decades. When I was a movie theater manager back in the 80s, I had the pleasure of screening this movie, and I thought it was wonderful.

1:20:50Girls came out of the theater crying on their boyfriend's shoulders, and everyone had smiles on their faces. However, the critics panned it terribly, and not many came to see this great show, which I thought was a real crime because of these charlatan judges this movie failed at the box office I have never forgiven those who were responsible for this I just want to say I still think this is a great movie and I highly recommend it to anyone dated, pardon the pun though it may be it is both funny, heartwarming, and sometimes sad But, with the proverbial happy ending, you will do yourself a favor if you take the time to watch it.

1:21:42Five stars. Thank you, Mel Leonard. Now, Mel has a little bit of an edge, and so does Cher. Not Cher with a C, but Cher with an S. and Sheridan S wrote this in 2011 and the title is DVD Date with an Angel. This DVD was difficult to locate and the cost in Canada was double from Amazon. I got my DVD and I enjoyed it very much and I was delighted to add it to my collection. I wish Amazon would arrange to deliver to Canada as having to drive to the U.S. to pick up a parcel at a designated place is a bit much. Thank you again, Amazon, and I hope you will consider finding the same products in Canada or the U.S.

1:22:40or rather than selling it or going overseas. Keep it at home, keep it Americans, and keep Canadians working. Five stars.

1:22:53what the fuck is that review about this person is pissed off about this movie and ends with keep canadians working capitalism wow okay yeah capitalism indeed um and that was that review was written by justin trudeau and you know what a lot of his legislation gets first started at the review level and then it moves up. That's the way you have to do it in Canada, apparently. We've got some great reviews on Amazon. That's how a bill becomes a law there.

1:23:28We're having fun. R. R. Cos writes this. The title, great movie. My wife and I love this movie. Get divorced.

1:23:42We feel that the FX for the wings were done extremely well. Much better and more realistic than what I think could be done with CG. We just love the detail put into this movie and we're happy to add it to our DVD collection. Five stars, great movie. Can I say one thing about that? I agree, I think, because the wings were not too white. I guess they just seemed like they had been... I don't know, used for some time. Wow. That's why she's behaving badly. She's behaving badly. Now she's behaving better. You felt like those were used wings? Yeah, in a good way. In a good way. I agree. And I actually thought they looked good as well.

1:24:30And I thought they did a good job of not giving us too much access to them. So as to let them be. Let them breathe. Let them look bad. Although I did take issue with the scene where he was trying to disguise her. I can understand putting a coat on the wings, but why does she need to be in a hat and sunglasses? I'm so sorry. Also, why does she need high heels? Get this angel sneakers. Please get her flats. Get this angel sneakers or flip flops. Give her anything. There's a decidedly angry attitude to a lot of these. You want to put an angel in flip flops? Why, she doesn't belong in flip flops, Paul.

1:25:06You want to put an angel? She's an angel. That's my favorite John Prine song. Angel in flip flops. I'm doing flip flops. Walking through my life. Isn't that that famous poem? I don't know if you're with me tonight, Minneapolis. Oh, God. Come tomorrow night. We'll see what's up. In the toughest times, I was carrying you, but I tripped on my flip flops. That's the footprints.

1:25:34Ed from Denver writes this. The title is, what is there to say about a movie I ordered? Dot, dot, dot. What is there to say about a movie I ordered? Because I already knew about it before I ordered it.

1:25:51Five stars.

1:25:56I think he thought he needed to... I think he's confused about what reviews are.

1:26:06I will read one... You think he ordered it and then got the email and it was like, leave a review here. and he was just like, well, it hasn't arrived yet, but... I mean, I already ordered. Yeah, I ordered it. It came. A review. I gave you a review of the ordering process. This is a review written by I Am Blessed. Okay. The title is For Angel Lovers and Others.

1:26:38To me, a collector of angel lore, Emmanuel Barrett is the personification of angels. My guardian angel agrees. What? And I think you will agree. Five stars. That's chilling. I just picture that person watching the movie and then looking at an empty chair and being like, I know. Me too. So those are some five-star reviews. We got a bunch there, a bunch of great ones. I guess the question is, would you recommend this movie? Yes! Yes, forever and always. Absolutely. Yes, if only to see what a piece of shit Tad is for choosing this angel who is not going to be with him forever. she's just clearly glomming on to him for her music career.

1:27:41For him to pass up Phoebe Cates. Again, this is a movie about Phoebe Cates. I won't hear anything else. And it's fantastic. Everybody should watch it. Yeah, this is truly like, this was a find. This was a wonderful find. And I did genuinely enjoy, I did enjoy it, I think. I think I really enjoyed it. I don't know which end is up anymore. I think I really enjoyed it. this movie was released in the theater and made like, this is a real movie. We're going to see it. There were no questions asked. This feels to me like whatever you want to do, make it. And they're paying for music. The Cars, Steve Winwood.

1:28:18There are needle drops of hit songs. Steve Winwood's The Finer Things is in this song. Don't worry. I had that tape, guys. Me too. At this point, I was 15 years old. I had this tape. I listened to this song and i was lonely the movie bankrupted the studio that released it

1:28:47they thought it was going to help reinvigorate it but this year was bad for them and it It was an$8 million movie that made$2 million, but it was nominated for Best Fantasy Film at the 1988 Saturn Awards and lost to The Princess Bride. I feel like now this movie would be a faith-based movie. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. It would skew in that direction and would be appropriately not as sexual. Yeah, go ahead. Here's what I would say. This is Blind Date, the Bruce Willis movie. I think you put Bruce Willis in this movie. I think you put Kim Basinger in this movie. It's a big hit. Great. It's a big hit.

1:29:33It's big and fun. We're talking about Splash. I think Splash is so similar, but Tom Hanks, Daryl Hannah, it is electric. There you go. It is not an electric connection between any of the people here. and Phoebe Cates is pouring incredible work into like a bottomless pit of nonsense. I will say this. I think we figured out our shirt, which is the shirt they made in the actual movie. I think that's the one. It's pretty, I don't quite remember, but I think that's pretty good. I think we can just cheat it. I remember feeling like when I saw it, there was like angel wings on the back. Can we do that, Paul, please?

1:30:09Paul, can we please have two sides? Please, Paul. We are going to do two sides. every now and then i like to keep the cost down but you know what you guys need a two-sided shirt minneapolis thank you everybody for coming out here tonight now billy joel good night everybody

1:30:34Jason Mantzoukas:that is a wrap on date with an angel thanks again to the entire staff at the pantages theater and our fantastic Minneapolis audience. We love you, Minnie. Our t-shirt design for this episode says, Angel, just in quotes on the front with an image of huge angel wings on the back. To get this shirt and more, just click on the merch link at hdtgm.com. As always, if you have a correction or a mission from this episode, leave me a voicemail at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K or write a comment on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm and I'll respond to your messages next week on Last Looks. Dinosaur Improv will be back at Largo in Los Angeles on February 28th with Edie Patterson and Nicole Byer.

1:31:19Jason Mantzoukas:So many great people. Danielle Schneider will be there, as well as Rob Hubel and myself. You can watch the dark web every single week for free on YouTube. And remember, if you listen to this podcast on Apple or Spotify, make sure you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. It helps us and we appreciate it a lot. And lastly, I give a huge thanks to our behind-the-scenes team. I'm talking about our producer, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, and our intern, Quinn Jennings. We will forever be thankful to the one and only Averill Halley.

1:31:51Jason Mantzoukas:That's all I got. We'll see you next week on Last Looks. Bye for now.

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