Diana: The Musical LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)

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How Did This Get Made? - Episode Summary: Diana: The Musical LIVE! (HDTGM Matinee)

Episode Overview

  • Host: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
  • Special Notes: Recorded live at Largo in Los Angeles
  • Description: The episode dives into the 2021 film "Diana: The Musical," presenting it as if created by a creative sixth grader doing a book report. The hosts express their views on the film's production quality, storytelling, and the historical portrayal of Princess Diana.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. General Impressions of the Musical
  2. Overall Sentiment:
  3. The musical is critiqued as a flawed representation that fails to encapsulate the essence of Princess Diana's life.
  4. The hosts equate the experience of watching this musical to witnessing a bad theatrical production.
  • Theatrical Elements:
  • Paul expresses admiration for the set design while simultaneously critiquing its execution.
  • June and Jason comment on the performances being reminiscent of a high school production, lacking emotional depth.
  1. Critique of Storytelling
  2. Narrative Structure:
  3. The storytelling is described as akin to a “Wikipedia entry set to music.”
  4. The quick pacing leads to significant events being oversimplified or jumbled, such as Diana having two babies in a single song.
  • Characterization of Princess Diana:
  • Diana is portrayed in a way that suggests a lack of intelligence, leading to discussions on the musical’s failure to accurately represent her complexity.
  • The hosts question the musical’s ability to provide insight into Diana's character and motivations.
  1. Musical Composition and Performance
  2. Song Quality:
  3. The songs are critiqued for being unmemorable and lacking emotional resonance.
  4. One song is humorously referred to as the "feck you dress," highlighting a notable moment but also pointing to the lack of significantly impactful music.
  • Performance Quality:
  • Despite the material's flaws, the hosts acknowledge that performers are giving their best efforts.
  • They jokingly discuss how the performances could be likened to an improvised musical, emphasizing the disconnect between the performers' efforts and the script.
  1. Historical Context and Accuracy
  2. Critique of Royal Portrayal:
  3. The hosts express discomfort with the sympathetic portrayal of royal figures, particularly Charles and Camilla, presenting them as villains while attempting to elicit audience sympathy.
  4. Discussions include Diana’s relationships and the societal pressures she faced, questioning whether the musical does justice to her experiences.
  • Audience Reception:
  • The live audience's reactions are considered, with some audience members noting their surprise at the realization that they were watching a filmed stage performance rather than a cinematic adaptation.
  1. Concluding Thoughts
  2. The episode culminates in a humorous yet critical assessment of the musical, with Jason, June, and Paul sharing their disbelief at the production’s creative decisions.
  3. The overall consensus is that while "Diana: The Musical" may have aspirations of grandeur, it ultimately falls short in execution and narrative depth.

Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Commentary: The hosts provide a comedic yet poignant critique of the representation of Princess Diana and the royal family in popular culture.
  • Musical Critique: The episode illustrates the difficulties in adapting stage performances to screen, emphasizing the importance of audience engagement and narrative clarity.
  • Entertainment Value: Despite the focus on criticism, the lively banter among the hosts keeps the episode entertaining, showcasing their chemistry and comedic timing.

Additional Notes

  • Episode Number: #291
  • Originally Released: 04/21/2022
  • Listen: Available on various platforms including Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and the HDTGM website.

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0:00Just because you are singing words doesn't mean it's a song You know what that means We saw Diana the Musical So you know what that means

0:23I'm just going to be

1:09Hello, people of Earth! Hello, people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo, our L.A. home. A home where musical theater reigns supreme. Ladies and gentlemen, we are talking about a musical that makes you think that Cats is genius.

1:43truly watching this i had so many thoughts and we're gonna get into those thoughts but if you did not see diana the musical on broadway or netflix they're the same um with a exception of a couple weird camera angles that are so jarring to make the audience very unnerved What do you need to know? Well, imagine a very creative sixth or seventh grader who decided to do a report on Princess Diana and said, I'm going to make my book report different. I'll make it one where I sing. That's all you need to know. So it is about that level. It covers the entire life of Diana, or at least from 19 till the end.

2:35And wow, they merged some shit together in ways that are shocking. I think she has two babies in the same song. But again, there's so much to get into. And there are two great people to talk about it with. Please welcome to the stage, my cause, Jason Manzoukas!

3:04What's up, jerks? Wow! Wow! Show of hands or clapping, who is here for Stone Cold? Why are we being punished? We saw greatness. And then you give us this? This movie is a war crime. Jason. Take this movie to The Hague. This musical adaptation of a Broadway stage show is a war crime. You know how I feel about musicals. I know, you love them. Never mind failed ones. this is I looked it up a Wikipedia entry set to song that's all it is now I'm here doing this uh oh SpaghettiOs what is this movie references this was pulled from this novel footnotes footnotes Ibbid Ibbid This is clearly the British Hamilton.

4:22I will not take no for an answer about it. By the way, I wouldn't believe that. I wouldn't believe... If you told me that the UK had embraced this and it was the biggest musical there, I would be like, those fucking idiots. The UK even said, fuck this musical. But anyway, there's one person who has seen this musical not once, but twice. She's my other co-host. Please welcome June Diane Raphael.

5:02How are you, June? I'm okay. How are you, Paul? I'm well. Thank you for asking. June. Twice?

5:11So I saw it once. I saw the whole thing. In the theater? No. I saw the motion picture, question mark. It's a movie. Is it? I actually want to get into that in a second. I think legally it shouldn't be defined as a movie. It's more of like a presentation. Yes. I'm telling you, it is a book report set to music. If a sixth grade kid did this, you'd be like, whoa, you are, you, if you went to school, you might have something. I don't know the name of any of the actors in it. They're all doing their absolute best. But if you told me this was filmed by their parents, I would believe you. If you told me this was filmed by the actress' parents being like, great job, hon, I would believe you.

5:56Because this felt like absolute nonsense. And like a high school production. I'm going to report from my second viewing right now. Please. So now I'm wearing the hat of someone who's seen it twice. And I got to tell you guys, because I bet everybody just saw it once. well I have heard internet rumors that if you see it twice it leads to madness I didn't see the whole thing twice but I watched it once and then I was getting just the best parts I was getting ready and I thought I'm gonna put it back on and I put it back on and I genuinely started to enjoy it so I don't know by the way June tell people the how long it took from viewing one to viewing two?

6:48Oh, probably about four hours. Yeah. Oh, whoa, whoa. Oh, I thought you meant like you saw it weeks ago. No, no, no, no. No, today.

7:00This is... Today. This is wild. This is... I suspect... I suspect that we could have you legally institutionalized. Okay. We could 5150 you right now. This is an important piece of information. The first viewing. This is a cry for help. Okay. If there's a medical professional, a mental health professional in the house. The first viewing, I saw it in my sauna bed. So that's always going to affect things because I'm sweating profusely. And I'm a little out of it. This would be what you would see in a waking dream. Yeah. It has that kind of mirage quality. And then in the light of day, showered, I've eaten something, I worked out, and I was like, let's put it on again.

7:49And goddammit. I think we should start doing live shows on stage in sauna beds. In standing sauna beds, just to see how the heat affects the viewing. We should be watching movies in sauna beds and then doing the podcast in sauna beds. Or we could also have the audience in sauna. If we could get a sauna bed to like... Listen, or we just pump the heat up right now. Yeah, let's hot yoga this place. This is good. I wanted to announce that you're doing a special show in Sedona. It's going to be 140 degrees in the room. You all have to be in Downward Dog the entire time. The musical starts off weird because the first song, the term underestimated is said a lot.

8:36And I was like, that is a hard term to make, like, your lead thesis statement. Like, you're open. It's like, duh, I'm underestimated. And I didn't know where we were finding her in that first number. And I, you know, I thought the actors did just a fine job. But before we even get into the movie, where I'm stuck is just on the why. I love that. Yeah. I don't want to go too. I love that as a starting point. But I also would, I'm going to ask you right now. You just watched it twice today. Yes. I watched it today. How many people here watched it today? Okay, great. That's a good bit. Let's all, we got to decide if we're going to, if we're going to, let's all decide we're going to clap, not raise hands.

9:22Because you're fucking up the system. Some of you are clapping. Some of you are raising your hands. Get it together. Choose as an audience before you come in. Okay. now could anybody right now sing one of the songs someone can yeah really alright hold on do you have some sort of relationship to it no okay great stand up stand up right now everyone be as quiet as you can be everybody shut your fucking mouths don't come you don't have to come up no notes no notes you stay there I'll hold the mic towards you pretty pretty girl pretty pretty girl in a pretty, pretty dress. The songs are well done.

10:06That was great. Well, I'm going to be honest. That person made me look like a grade A asshole. Yep. So fuck you. Michael, take him out. But my point was going to be how unmemorable every song was. The only song I truly remember is the fuck you dress. The fuckity, fuckity, fuckity. Because it's so crazy. But that's not you. All you remember is that little bit of wordplay. Right. You don't remember the song, right? No, but that's what I'm saying. These songs are complicated. They are, like, underestimated. It's like, I'm not, like, I can't, like, just gravitate to that. I tried to listen to it on Spotify on the way here.

10:46Why? Again, I wanted to just... Why were you trying to drive into oncoming traffic? Well, here is my... Like, there should be a trigger warning in front of this because it might cause such desolation and despair. This is what I wanted to ask because I think it goes hand in hand with what you are asking, which is pretend we know nothing about the princess at all. We don't know anything about Diana. Does this musical work to let you know who she was? And I think, no. Or it gives you a very warped idea of who she is because she seems at points to be incredibly vindictive then it points to be like a child then it points to be like who is this movie's protagonist?

11:34Like what is the point of view of this movie? I think it's that romance novelist Barbara. Yes! Oh, I love her. Barbara Corcoran? Barbara Corcoran from Shark Tank? When Barbara Corcoran comes back on HGTV when Barbara Corcoran comes back when she comes back an hour into the play and like oh and now this is what's going on Wait, where were you? You're the narrator now? Where were you? And that's actually like, this is, again, I still haven't gotten an answer on just why. Why? But it could have been a cool device to actually tell the story as a romance novel or when Barbara's introduced to have the whole stage turn into like this crazy romance novel that she's describing, but there's, none of that happens again.

12:22Or have her be the narrator. Or have her tell the story from start to finish. An overarching structure that is, this story's being told to someone with a point of view. We do it like our town, but Jason Statham is like, hey, listen up, governor. Back when I was a kid, there was this crazy dame. And here's a story I'm going to tell you right now. You know, something like that. I would like you to film those pieces and somebody edit them in. But back... Nah, she don't talk like that, does she? But I'll tell you this. Back to my original question, though, Paul. So there's Diana the Musical, which was on Broadway?

13:00Well, yes, it was on Broadway. Wow. So that was on Broadway. Yes. It's a bold choice to record it without an audience. For how long? Well, I mean, we can get into it. Hold on. It's got to be like, if it ran more than a month, I'll give you$10 ,000. I know Nate Kiley did our research, and I know that there is a couple of things here. they were just about to open and then COVID shut it down. So they were like, oh, let's tape it. Another pandemic loss. Yeah. We've lost so many grapes. And then when COVID subsided a little bit and Broadway came back, it reopened and no one came. And then it shut down.

13:40Well, yeah, as it should. The show is not successful. And then Netflix says, let's put cameras on it. No, the show is about to open. And then they filmed it. Or they thought they were going to get in on the ground floor. I think they were like, this will be our Hamilton. The same way that they released Hamilton, you know, the live stage version of it. Disney moved it up. So I think they were like, well, this cast is ready to go if we do it COVID safe with no audience. But this is what I don't understand. Because there are musicals that they do film. And sometimes when you're outside of the theater, there's a little TV and they play clips from the musical.

14:20And those clips actually have some energy behind them. I mean, it's still not the show, but it's like you can feel something happening. There's an audience for most of them. There is an audience for, I don't know, because the cameras are close, but it just feels like they're performing for an audience, and it feels like there's an energy to the performance. And this was so odd. It's so dead. This felt like an industrial. Yes, exactly. It felt like an industrial musical. It did not, it felt like, like I said, a Wikipedia entry set to music. It was without emotionality for such an emotional story.

14:59It was everything, everybody's delivery was flat. And it was just, we're here to sing the plot. That's it. We are going to enjoy it joylessly. But I also feel like they did Diana dirty because she - Dirty Diana? Dirty Diana. I did not see that coming when I said that. I was shocked by that. I will tell you who I liked. I will tell you who I liked Camilla Parker Bowles. Okay, yes. She is good. I love that they introduce her and Charles is basically like, you're ugly. I didn't mean it like that. I was like, what the fuck is this? Listen, I thought she was good. It's always going to be hard for me to get on board with Camilla.

15:47Why? Why is it hard, June? Why? Because my understanding of it is pretty base. I haven't watched The Crown. I didn't see, you know, the... Have you heard the tapes? No. Oh, what tapes? The Diana tapes. Did you guys watch this movie? I watched it twice. I watched this movie, but here's what I'll say. I know astonishingly little about this story. Okay. I know a couple things. For it being so much in the... And that's hard, because now after seeing this, I feel like you know less. Yes. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know what I walked with. Well, this is my first introduction to the hunk known as James Hewitt.

16:27Love James Hewitt. I'm sure there are others here who know more about the truth and can dramaturge this story better than I can, but... Take your special. I, well, I did not know, or it was new information to me that Camilla kind of arranged the marriage. Well, that's what I thought was so compelling. I'd never heard that before, but maybe that, maybe that is true. That is true. Okay. Yeah. No. Here's. There's a little bit, there was about a 50-25 there. 50 % yes. You know what? Listen, you know what I heard for the first time as though it was brand new information. I had never taken in the fact that Diana was 19 and he was 32.

17:12Yes. And that she was a virgin, which I also didn't know. Yeah. Like a teenager. She was a teen. A true teenager. And she had pictures of him on her wall. And that felt not true to me. But I guess because like, are she longing after this man? He's royalty. And he's the prince. And he was definitely, he was always an odd looking guy. But he was the prince. Okay. Yeah, I do think she loved him. I did not know, and maybe this is part of if I'd watched The Crown or something like that. I did not know that her sister had dated him prior. That's how she met him. And it seemed to me to be like, the sister seemed to be fully dialed in on the bullshit of the situation.

17:51Yeah. And I was a little bit like, hey, protect Diana. Older sister. Yeah. Well, listen, I think that, and we've seen it with Meghan Markle, the family members are also so excited that the royals are coming to dinner. You know, that they overlook a lot of the stuff. Well, look, the idea was just suck it up because you are going to be, and that's what the message of the, I mean, it gets going quick. I mean, this movie is an hour and 57 minutes. They got a cover of life. So long. And like I said, they are compacting a lot of stuff in there because you're meeting Camilla. They're on their first date.

18:31She's in the dress. And by the way, the costume changes, A+. But the one thing I knew, the only... By the way, I do want to direct everyone to an incredible performance by the woman who directed Promising Young Woman who's Camilla in The Crown. Yes. And that scene, that... You should watch that, because there's a scene between Camilla and Diana in The Crown that's one of the best scenes on TV. So there are other... Better than the thriller of Manila? Like, are you telling me it's better than this musical number? between the final face-off when the... Let's take a look. This is... Stop this now.

19:10You've had your goddamn fun. We'll take our leave. Your little stunt is done. Can you stop for a second? This is ripping off another song. What song? Paradise by the Dashboard Lights, right? Start from the beginning again. And it's like, I'm going to stop right now. Yeah, but it's not the same yet. Stop this now. You've had your goddamn fun. We'll take our leave. Your little stunt is done. Ladies and gentlemen, now this is a show. It's not.

19:56Can you pause for a second? That was choreography. One afternoon they showed up and were like, today we're going to do neck stuff. Whoever choreographed this musical was into doing aggressive shoulder work. The bellhops had aggressive shoulders. The byes, everyone's popping that shoulder. They're popping that shoulder like they pop those flash bulbs on top of those old-timey cameras, which, I mean, I also feel like that shows like how weirdly dated it was too. These paparazzi in the trench coats running around like a Batman Commissioner Gordon. Like, hey, snap, crackle, pop. You know, whatever the fuck they were saying.

20:39I would like it if it was snap, crackle, pop, honestly. But there were these moments and the thing that falls so flat. And I just go back to what you were saying, June, about the emptiness of it. They are performing the hell out of it. I think they're doing the best material that they have. Oh, they're giving it their all. They don't change a fucking word. and there are like Broadway laugh lines and I mean that in the sense of if you ever see a Broadway show they're like dumb fucking dumb jokes but they know this will work and it's like Duran Duran and they hold Duran Duran Duran Duran Duran Duran and they hold like for laugh but it's just You're right they do hold for laughs Deadly silent and they do it three times like no one said like you know what just speed through those jokes because there's no laughter coming and there and that was unnerving to me.

21:26But why wouldn't the cast... So you weren't laughing during those little breaks? I was like, ha ha ha! And I was looking around and I found no one. June, that might have just been the delirium of the sauna bed. Probably. I wrote down so many lyrics that now I'm like, why? Where the prince could hear some prince and we'd all be funkadelic? The obsession with Princess Di and pop music. Now, the one thing I knew, the one thing I was very familiar with, and tell me if I'm right or wrong, you may or may not know this, was didn't Princess Diana perform Uptown Girl at, okay, so, but in the musical, she does a ballet number.

22:09The whole thing is about her loving pop music and at that one point, it's like, well, we can't get the rights of Billy Joel, so we're gonna make her fucking dance ballet. Well, I don't, I think both things happened. She did both. Both things happened. So she danced a ballet to Uptown Girl. There was a big deal about her. Like she offered that to him as a birthday gift that that was going to be her offering. Oh, like her Marilyn Monroe kind of happy birthday. Yes, and it fell really flat. He's such a dick. I fucking hate him so much. I'll say this. I found him to be charming in the musical though.

22:44This gets to like the whole point of the musical. It's enough. For me, the whole musical really just to me feels like I don't understand why we even want to watch the royals this is these are this is a play about villains right this is a play about the monarchy who are unquestionably villains right and we are asked over and over again to root for them yes somehow or believe that they are all trying to do their best when this play should be about villains acting villainous right but instead everybody's like I'm just doing the best I can trying to raise these boys well that's why I think it was it was not it was troubling to have Camilla I know you loved her so much Paul but to have her be so sympathetic because oh but they can have their Sundays back it doesn't work for the story here's the thing Royals I don't give a fuck if you don't get to have your Sundays back you fucks But here, to my point is, from the moment the play starts, musical play, movie, whatever you want to call it, it's all, they tell you royals are bad, this is bad, it's going to end bad.

24:06And I think from a story perspective, that's not the best way. Like, I would have liked to at least, like, I feel like everyone's warning her. So I feel like Princess Diana comes off really dumb or vindictive. I come off, I like Princess Diana, and I come off from here going, well, she's kind of like, well, she's fucking that guy first, right? Or she's fucking him, and then she's going there, and she's like, you want to dance with me? And then, I mean, where is she at? I'll tell you where she's at. I'll be back. I have issues with the movie, too. I'm going to step out for 10. But Charles was having an affair with Camilla before they were married.

24:41Throughout. And that continued throughout. But then she starts. Yes, she does. Yes. Right. Absolutely. But he never stopped. Never stopped. Not a once. And it was a loveless marriage, and he was so punishing toward her and humiliated her over and over. Well, he did that fun dance. Oh, my God. You know, when they got—I mean, look at this. You know, like, you say all this bad stuff about him, but then all of a sudden— But we're asked in the musical over and over again to root for he and Camilla to be together. But I'm looking for this guy who, when the cello comes out and it gets funky, he can dance.

25:22They had to rehearse this for weeks. This is insane. I forgot about this. For weeks they rehearsed this. They went home to their loved ones at night and said, it's bad. Yeah. It's bad, I'm fucked, and I know so much choreography. What is so crazy about this? They worked so hard. So hard. The choreography there in time. The choreography is great, but what I guess is they're not even parodying dance moves that we know. At least when you see that scene in Pulp Fiction, you're like, oh, I recognize these dance moves. I'm sorry, Paul, I'm going to interrupt you. These are famous British dance moves.

26:06These motherfuckers can't dance. You do the lift. Then you do the tames. and then you come over here, you do the... You do the tames? Oi, then! You do the tames. You do the tames! And I want to stress this because, in case listeners perhaps didn't watch the movie, the actors and the performers, the dancers, the entire company is really doing the equivalent of a... It is. It's a Broadway show. And it is executed flawlessly. It is terrible. But when you really think about it, they put months of work into this. Stage design, costume. Months of work. Every day rehearsing. Learning choreography. The choreographers designing choreography.

26:57All for this. I know. It will live forever on Netflix. It will never live forever on Broadway. What? You know all of these people were in the shower before they had to go in. I'm going to say, yeah. I'll say this. Eight shows a week. Eight shows a week. I don't think they even got that. No. But what if you had to do that for eight shows? I don't know. I don't know. That is wild. I interrupted you. So I was saying I was falling in love with this Prince Charles. This Charles is in a fantasy sequence. This isn't Charles. So she never played the cello like a piano?

27:39and she didn't want everyone to be cool and be like a rock star because what i'm getting from this is like i'm getting princess diana is hannah montana and she's like oh and that's i married a real stick in the mud well the aspirational song is the song is the song where she gets access to couture you know the difference is i'm throwing away the old clothes and I'm choosing my own clothes, right? Yeah. And that is the song that is like now I am myself. Well, I read that differently. I think that song is more, I now understand that I'm a commodity here. So I understand that I'm the most photographed woman in the world.

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28:21And so I'm going to, she starts playing into it more. But then when she goes to the AIDS ward, which happens in the musical, it seems like she's doing that as like a move of revenge but I guess she is. You have so much to learn about her. No, I think that was I am learning it from the musical. I think that was meant to be genuinely humanitarian. I know, but the way that I I'm not I'm very uncomfortable. I'm not saying I just want to draw the line here because I want to make sure that I'm clear. I understand how it was done in real life. I think the musical does her a disservice because it's positioned like that in the musical.

29:00Like, huh, what can I do to really piss them off? I'll go to the AIDS ward and shake their hands. Like, that's what it, it feels real petulant to me. I'm not saying that that's who she is. I mean, this musical doesn't do a good job of telling her. I think what's different and the reason why you have your reading and I have my reading is that I know her. So I'm not looking for... Failure as a piece of art if you need to know all day. I don't disagree. But, I mean, the question you have to ask yourself is why don't you know her better? I watched The Royal Wedding. I saw it live. And then you know what I said?

29:40When you were three? It's none of my business. When you were three years old? How old were you? It was a very big thing in my house, The Royal Wedding. I remember it. I remember it as a very... I remember sitting in front of the TV watching. Yeah. It was a very big thing. My mom was a very big Princess Di fan. It was a very big thing in our house. And so that was like, but I don't get involved in their business. I let them do their own. So we don't have you to blame for her death. But I do, no. But I do want to read that book that they, but now that was the other thing. Because in the, okay, again, a thing where I'm confused.

30:15In the musical, she goes, I'm calling up this gossip reporter we've never heard of before. and I guess we're all supposed to know. And she's like, I'm going to tell you everything, but you have to be anonymous. And then the book comes out and it's like Princess Diana in her own words. I'm like, well, wait, when did that happen? Where's the switch? Why didn't we, why, are we supposed to know this other story that like, why did he sell her out? Is she mad? I don't know all those details, but I think, I do think the musical. These are invalid questions though, am I right? I don't know all those details.

30:45I do think the music on the storytelling assumes, now this was, this isn't my Diana, you know? And so I... Your Diana isn't the one who says, I'm no intellect. Maybe there's a cool discotheque where Prince can hear some Prince and then we'd all get funkadelic. Then don't create a scene. You're auditioning to be his queen? No. Pet shop boys, come on, come on. Make some noise. Give it up for Adam Ant. Where are you, Diana, huh?

31:15I feel as though... And even though I just have said how much work went into this and all of that, It felt to me on a level of a group of very good improvisational singers arrived at the theater and said, can we get a suggestion? Someone said Princess Diana. And this is what they did. And by the way, if I saw this in those circumstances, I'd be like, they're geniuses. And I think everyone go see them. They are amazing. You blow your mind. Do you ever see Improvised Shakespeare? They're like them, but they do it to musicals. It was amazing. It was incredible. See, I took it as someone told them, you have exactly one hour and 57 minutes to tell every detail about this woman's life.

32:02Go. And give nothing weight. Because they really do it. We've got to just get to the next thing. I said it before, she has two babies in one song. And the trouble with creating a musical around this is also we know the ending. Do you all know what happened to her? I was surprised. I was surprised. I did know the ending. I only looked it up afterwards that that's not Diana. I was like, she's doing good. When we already know where she's headed, it's hard to ever feel that this is a hero's journey and that she's going to get redemption because we ultimately know that they killed her. Well, not only that, but here is, to me, the true offense of all of this, which is, yes, it is the story of Diana, theoretically, right?

32:55But it is so respectful of the royal family, who, again, are villains, so much so that the final word of the musical is given to Charles. Yes! I was like, shame on you. Well, that's right. Shame on you. You can't do that. Now, this is where I'll get you back on my side. I found the end to be terrible terrible because I felt like all of a sudden these people who were treated her like shit are the ones that go like ah so sad so sad like your fault you did they have no they have no they don't end with them in prison and all of the land that they hold given back to the people or what are we doing I mean listen I do think the royals I mean they essentially function as a tourist attraction now.

33:44But they own all the land. They do, but there is a sense, I mean, I don't know, is anyone British here and would you care to speak on the royals? But it does feel like there's just a tourism economy that the royals are... Oi, I'm part British. What you wanting to know?

34:03I'm shocked you don't get more jobs with that accent. That crazy bad go punching mirrors all the time. Oh, Paul, I just got a text. Guy Ritchie needs to talk to you. Oh, wow. All right. Snatch prequel, here I come. Mini snatch?

34:25I got to go back, though, to when someone made the call to put cameras on this. Like, I still need to understand a little bit more. So it's barely up for a week and they anticipate, like, this is... My guess is this. Because Hamilton sold for so much money in success. By the way, this is such a take. They were like, Hamilton this. I think they were like, let's get in before. Let's license this before it becomes obviously a mega hit. We'll get it cheap rather than bidding on it later when it's all big. Because Hamilton, what was it? It sold for$65 million. Just that, just something crazy. Yeah, it was a huge sale.

35:08My guess is they saw that and were like, oh, we can get in on the before this even blows up. Netflix knows exactly what they're doing. They're like, we got the crown and now we're going to give you like, you need another season. We got to edit that shit. So watch this, you dummies. And I'm sure so many people watch because. Oh, you know your mom watched this. Oh, absolutely. A thousand percent. And I'm going to tell you, people watched it and they fucking loved it. Like, I don't think this is like, because again, it's Netflix. You didn't go to the theater. There's no expectation. You're like, that was cute.

35:38Out of curiosity, out of curiosity, for those of you who watched it in the audience, like myself, how many of you were shocked to find out that this was a filmed live performance? I thought I was going to be watching, like, Cats. I was shocked that now we've just decided on small clips? I just raised my hand. This audience is not giving it up. I don't know about you guys. honestly, I think I hate. I just assumed, yeah, I assumed it was this Diana the Musical. I was like, oh, cool, okay. Yeah, it was a movie. I also was shocked that it was a film state adaptation. I thought it was a, going to be a musical film.

36:25I will tell you that if you think about it, like, The Crown is out. You have that movie, Spencer, which is, you know, which is out and getting award acclaim. And then this. And also Diana the Tapes. And Diana, oh wait, what's Diana the Tapes? If you head on to Netflix, there's another docuseries called Diana the Tapes. So Netflix is just kind of cornering the market of Diana stuff. So if you want to sell a show right now, it sounds like putting Diana in is a show for Netflix. Fascinating. I mean, I will say that, you know, what I was surprised at was the person who wrote it for the stage, he did write Toxic Avenger the Musical, which is the trauma film, Toxic Avenger.

37:11So he did come from that. But also he was the keyboard player for Bon Jovi. He was the composer. Oh. His name is David Bryan. And yeah, so these guys, I think, had, they also wrote this. Because I was going to say, it had like real, like rock and roll music vibes. Yes. You know, which surprised me also that I was like, oh, this is way more like electric guitar forward than I would have thought for a Broadway musical show. But it didn't feel like it continued throughout the whole thing. No, it was a mess. But these guys, these guys who work together, the other one is Joe DiPietro. They wrote this other thing.

37:46If you're in New York City, I know that you probably both know what I'm going to talk about is I Love You, You're Perfect Now Change. Of course. That was what they wrote before this. So I think they come from a more comedy background. So it's like Toxic Avenger, I love you, you're perfect, now change. And Diana, the musical. One of those things doesn't really fit. Like I could see like the funny version. Well, I guess I don't know what the funny version is. But I guess like there's a part of me that's like. Let's pitch it out though. What is the fun? You know what? It's the story of Diana, but it's hilarious.

38:23This is the funny version. I do, like, this is the funny version right here. Officer Hewitt, I hear you offer lessons. There's only one type of lesson I offer. Riding lessons. Boom. Oh, oh, oh, James Hewitt. Oh, I assume your husband gives you riding lessons. He's tried. He's not very good. Oh, oh, oh, you come, girl. Well, perhaps he just doesn't have the proper horse. And do you have the proper horse? Your Royal Highness, I think you'd adore my horse. oh all right all right i just made up those bits of dialogue but aren't they delicious they are no response zero response but that should be our window character but by the way sure by the way i think i do a better british accent than she does uh but i will say this why stop the musical to say i made that up so you tell me the rest is all transcripts You're telling me the rest is letter perfect To what actually happened That fucked me up It was like Alright we went too far here The rest of the shit We took some liberties just there Just there Everything else perfect Like truly Ken Burns before this I got in and I got a little silly When this happened When James Hewitt arrived And I was like okay got it I got it.

39:48I did that thing where I'm like, okay, this has got to be like, we're getting to the end here. One hour left. I had a panic attack. Yeah. Because I was already feeling unwell. Yeah. From what I'd watched so far. To have one, to click on that status bar and see that you have one hour left in this abject nightmare scape. All right. It was quite long. Now, is James Hewitt the one that there are rumors is Harry's father? Yeah. Because he looks like Harry. Looks just like him, doesn't he? Here they're like he looks like Hugh Grant, though. Here they give him Hugh Grant floppy hair. And James Hewitt wrote a book about Diana, too, and he was kind of really out.

40:34I did a little deep dive on James Hewitt because I was like, who is this hunky dude? And he seems to have had a rough go of it afterwards because he wrote a tell-all novel. He feels very badly about it. it looks like it took a toll on him. A tell-all novel? All right. Well, he took some liberties here. He fictionalized it? Tell-all books, sorry. I'm telling everything, but it's fiction. It's like Primary Colors, the book. But yeah, there was something really interesting about, I mean, oh boy, I have so many questions about Diana and you because I also felt like they had a good thing, but did she not really like him?

41:13I think she I don't know obviously but I think that she it's so hard so hard to get access to what really happened when this is your only when this is your I'm trying to be that person I'm trying to remember from the tapes I think that I do think she loved Charles and that no she didn't necessarily want a life with James Huell but she wanted out of that marriage right But in the play, she often says, like, I have been through divorce, and I know that I'm not having that happen again. And she talks about divorce as if I've murdered someone and I will never murder anyone ever. I'm like, wow, you're really upset about divorce.

41:59But she really has, like, I just think that all of her, like, she's getting out of bed, she's really happy with James Hewitt, and then she's going to talk to Charles, and she's like, hey, what's up? And he's like, hey, leave me alone. And I'm like, I don't know where you're at. I don't know where you're at. I thought you were happy. You really didn't have access to the interiority of this character. And I had a problem. But here's what I will tell you. I turned it on. I saw an hour and 57 minutes. I was like, you know what I'll do? I'll watch 30 minutes tonight. I'll watch 30 minutes tomorrow.

42:26And then I'll finish before the show. I couldn't turn it off. Couldn't turn it off. And then when I saw it, it was like 20 minutes left. I was like, well, I can finish it tomorrow. It's 1 in the morning. I'm like, no, I can't. I got to finish it now. I understand. And then when the credits started rolling, I was like, maybe there's a post-credit scene. And there was. There is? There was? Yeah, it shows them rehearsing with the fucking mask on and stuff. Please play it. I never saw it. Oh, I didn't see that. Well, yeah. I didn't see that. See, I watched it the exact opposite way. I was like, I was in a full flop sweat 20 minutes in.

42:59Not in a sauna bed. Not in a sauna bed, I wish. I was like, I can't handle this. I'm not, well, this makes me feel not safe. This makes, I don't like any of what's happening. I don't like musicals, never mind one that is this catastrophically bad. Paul, I feel like you're showing the audience too much. I went too quick. Okay, something really scary happened on our Netflix account, and I think we deleted it, but all of a sudden another profile was there. Whoa! Probably because of things like this. By the way, I think we just found out how that happened. It was really spooky, and someone had been watching things.

43:46Anything good? I don't remember. Maybe they were trying to recommend good stuff. It felt like a teenager, and I was like, oh, is there a babysitter or someone who... If it's a hard thing... Pardon the interruptions. This tile is not available to watch right now. Why not? Oh, there it is. All right, let's just... Oh. Maybe it's playing at our house at the same time. Oh, it is. It's on in the bedroom. Oh. Wait. It's on? You just keep it going? I paused it. I paused it.

44:22I mean, I think some of this play can be summed up. I do have one note. Open it in an income. Oh, no, it won't work. It won't work. Forget it. I was going to say I have one note here for myself that I just wrote down, which is musicals are hard. but I will say these actors make it look good I don't I want to again say they're doing great a great job with truly catastrophically bad material the set design the costume changes and even though there was a lot of aggressive shoulder movement the choreography was pretty much on point like they were really I don't think the choreography was great but they were in sync I beg to differ and I could be impressed with that well I'm going to say something else Paul which is I thought the costumes were terrible I thought the set was terrible and I thought the choreography was terrible really?

45:10but they're doing their best, like again the performers are we're talking about quick changes this is not a movie, that's why I'm saying if you're doing this on stage 8 nights a week and you're covering 8 nights a week? 8 shows a week 8 shows a week but you don't go to a musical to be taken away by the quickness of the costume changes. Yes, you do. I mean, you would have been lost in the story. Are you telling me? June, are you telling me that when you go see Oklahoma, you're like, oh, it doesn't look like a fucking real farm? I know it's not a real farm. I got to suspend disbelief. That's Buckingham Palace.

45:47I see a fucking gate. There's a bed. I don't need to see the four walls. I'm watching flashes. We got to give it up for suspension of disbelief. I thought the stage design, and I'm not going to say I'm an expert in this area, but I do feel... That's what you majored in. I do feel, I know a couple of stage designers. I do feel... Eve Feinberg, someone I went to high school with. Get them on the phone. And so I really do appreciate stage design in plays. And I thought this was terrible. You didn't like the long table when they all took that long table? It went from a bar to a back bar. It was a straight bar.

46:25Into a boxing ring. Yeah. I'm just saying there was nothing interesting about that stage. I know you loved it so much. You loved that stage so much. I want to be on that stage. I want to be on that floor pulling a table. You're saying that for you is really the room where it happened? Amen. Amen. I saw Patti Laplone do Sweeney Todd with no set, and I was there in my head. No, by the way, I saw the same production. There was a beautiful stage design. It's simple, but it was amazing. You're right. This is... This makes no sense. Again, this feels like a high school production. Oh, yeah. When the cello gets lit up.

47:07But you were not impressed with the dress. You weren't impressed with the quick changes. No, Paul. Paul, I'm comfortable saying that is base level what should be done. Am I comfortable with the fact that they knew their lines? You weren't surprised that they could sing on key? No, that's the job. I guess I just like live performers doing their craft. I think that's the closest it got to being a magic trick, and you liked that. I did. You're like, that was the point in the movie where you're like, how'd they do that? And it got your attention. I was all in. I was all in. I did feel uncomfortable for James Hewitt to have his shirt off for so much of it.

47:50On a mechanical bull? Yeah. Or a mechanical horse, I guess. Yeah, I didn't like that. I just felt uncomfortable for him. James Hewitt's song, too, was fucking bonkers. I mean, they're all... Wait, that one that we just saw? No, no, this one. The one where our romance novelist... No, it's me again, Barbara Carlin. Great set. Look at that set. Where are we? Buckingham Palace? Oh, yes. If your prince leaves you wanting more... Hold on. Look at this sage design. God. Red lights. Ooh, the red light district. I think those are pink. Who get you thinking? To match her dress. That's what I like. Costume matching the set.

48:33Red. Red means danger. I don't think it's going to suggest the red light district. Stop. This, again, is entirely set in the world of, like, extreme wealth. I don't know. This is getting me a little, you know. Well, good news. Good news, Paul. Bad news, June. It's playing in your bedroom.

48:58Why not score a man of war? Here comes, here comes. Yeah!

49:12If you can't afford a horse, get a saddle on a seat that comes out from the stage. How many times have you seen that in a Broadway show? This and the visual is getting hard on. Great stage design. It's a boner visual. Great stage design. And the red lights change to what? Blue. Balls. James. Hewitt. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh. James Hewitt. Everybody is soaking wet for this guy. I would rather... I love him. I would rather watch them fuck. They had a lot of chemistry Genuinely I'd rather watch them fuck So here's James Hewitt Pull up a picture of him During his riding days So his riding days There's a picture of him with Di No that's not okay Wait look at this He looks like a dork You can't just agree What are you doing You now have a subscription to the times.

50:22Or read every day. I want to find out where all the birds are doing. And you're getting advertising. You just got... Your identity is gone. Between the Netflix login and this, you're done. I do it for you, God damn it. You're going to get home tonight. There's going to be 40 more profiles I know everyone here is cool. All right. You shouldn't be... You're showing too much. There needs to be a how did this get made laptop. This is dangerous. Well, there you go. That's what he looks like. You need a burner laptop. These fuck, you can't trust these maniacs. They're out there like, fuck, did you see that?

51:05What was it? What was it? What was it? What was it? It was Gmail. And there was two, right? Yeah, two. There's two profiles. Did you get one? You get the top. I'll get the bottom. I thought I was moving pretty quickly. Thank God it's not being taped for Netflix, so you can rewind it and screen grab it and shoot it out. But look, we have a lot of questions out here. There may be some of my British friends out here. There may be people out here that have different questions. Let's go to you, to the audience. Let's have the house lights up a little bit, and I'll just tell you all, we are trying to record it.

51:33Well, of course, because it's a podcast. And so, because I'm not going to go out there with a mic, I may have to repeat the questions. So here we go. What do you got? Yeah, right down here. Why do you think it was so important for them to talk about how dumb Diana was? All right, great. so this is important. All right, so the question here, and what's your name? Montana. Montana. And whose side are you on ultimately in this? June's side. Okay, you're on June's side. There's no other side to be on. I mean, where's my team, Camilla? Wait, do you think, do you think we represent different sides of the...

52:12I think that Camilla made the ultimate sacrifice. What are you talking about? Oh, my God. Wait, so you are saying... They wouldn't let her marry him. You are saying you are Team Camilla. Isn't that the case? Isn't that the story that they wouldn't let her marry him? She was married. Because she knew it was a dead end. She's like, look, she's like, look, what do you want me to fucking do? I got it. You know she was already married when she met Charles. Oh, when she met him? Well, I think they had known each other for a while, but when they were having an affair, she was already married. Oh, okay.

52:50I didn't know that. I thought they were like long-time high school sweethearts. They went on a field trip to London. You're acting as if these are people who have had normal lives. These are monsters. All right. So the question from Montana was, why do they have to keep on pointing out that she's so dumb? And this actually goes into what I was saying, that they do her a disservice. They make her dumb. They make her like a dumb kid. Yeah, and I don't know, like, and that's why I do think the play isn't on her side. Well, I don't think the play is on anyone's side. I think the play is constantly having it both ways with everybody.

53:34They both want you to think Charles is an idiot and a villain, but then also believe in the love story of Charles and Camilla and the fact that they miss their Sundays. And they want you to believe that the queen is different than the romance novelist. She is. What? Are you telling me the queen's not... They're the same person in the musical. I thought that was what the show was trying to prove to me. That's quite a quick change. That was a good quick change. All right, so any other questions? Any other questions? Yeah. right there. Whose side are you on and what's your name? I'm Holly. June and Jason.

54:19Okay, June and Jason. Which is also mine. That's mine. She gets it. I'm just saying if you didn't know anything. I'm curious just so we don't have to waste time. Is anybody here on Paul's side? Thank you. Thank you. Look, I'm not saying in real life. I'm just saying the musical version of this. That's where I'm at. Yes, go ahead. The Becky dress. Yes, the fuck you dress. No, no, no, no. It's feck you until the last line is fuck you. Yes, the feck you dress. That's actually a famous dress, June might know. If you guys didn't know that black dress, do you think that was a feck you dress? You thought that was, was it effective?

54:59Okay, was the feck you dress effective? Let's pull it up here. Okay, so the question is, do you think it was successful in its attempt to be a declarative statement of something? Yeah, certainly. Yes, absolutely. This is a famous dress, right? That's a classic. Even I know this. Yeah.

55:26Palm pause. Oh, will you rewind it just like a couple, just like a few seconds. Right. Okay. So right here, you love that stage design.

55:38You're like, you're like, I love the light tubes. What I like about this stage design is a couple things. It doesn't take attention away from the feck you dress. It actually lets the feck you dress shine. And to your question, I believe it's a feck you dress because they're telling me it. So I didn't have to even imagine it. They told me, as everything, every emotion is told to me, except the things that should be told to me, like the suicide, that's hidden in a punch through the mirror. But this is very clean. Everyone is very clean and clear with how they feel. So yeah, she could be serving pizza and saying it's soup, and if you say it's soup enough times, I'm like, I guess that's soup.

56:27See, I liked this. This is where the musical fails, because this is a really good idea, at a juxtaposition between Prince Charles giving this televised interview where he's going to take some sort of ownership and she's stealing focus with this fuck you dress, right? And to be able to, that juxtaposition could have created tension and been something great, and instead it's just like not. Neither side of it is particularly effective at dramatizing the events of what I think is, is this a true story? Well, that I don't know. No, I feel like time was, like, things got a bit conflated, I think. This is true.

57:08She was going to go to this very big event. I actually do have this research from me. All right, so this is, okay, Paul Burrell, that's her close friend in Covenant. In an interview after the princess died, Burrell spoke about how Diana felt humiliated after Charles admitted his infidelity to the press. the evening that Charles' interview aired. Diana was scheduled to appear at the annual Serpentine Gallery summer party and nearly did not go. According to Burrell, he talked her into going and chose a very sexy black dress for her to wear with a diamond choker as a way to tell the world that she was not going to be humiliated.

57:44Their duet, The Dress, is a direct reference to this conversation. So that's... I like that. No, no, no. Wait, applause? I just... Now you're just giving the audience applause? I know this is joking. A cheer for me.

58:06Jason, Jason, Jason, Jason.

58:12Camilla, Camilla, Camilla. Team CPB over here. I'm so upset about that, Paul. I'm going to need you to take it back, honestly. This is the new teams. Team Sanity is Team CPB? I'm judging this as a person who just walked into the local Netflix cinema and shows Diana. I don't know what this is about. Is this true? But if this had been bouncing back and forth between him giving the interview and her doing this and blah, blah, blah, blah, that could have been fun and cool and have given more, again, more emotionality to the moment and to what they were going through. But instead, everything is reduced to just one thing, and this is just the dress.

58:52Do you remember that one song? and now I can't remember it, but it was when it's with the romance novelist and she goes, it's him, it's her, it's a combo of him and her. What is that? What are you, I don't even know what you're saying. What, like, that was odd. It was like, what is, like, what's the combo of him and her? Like, I didn't understand what even that was going for, but it does feel like, I said to June when she was watching again and I walked and was watching it over her shoulder. It's interesting because - Still on right now. So you both watched it twice. I definitely watched a few more scenes.

59:23You stop by and watch more of it than I think you're willing to admit. I'll admit it. And I guess every time I watch it. I want to have the severance procedure done for this movie so that I can live in a world in which I don't remember having seen it. I have to be honest with you, Jason. I might watch it again. I'm going to tell you it goes down smoother the second time. Obviously, we have an opinion about this movie. There are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. They go to Amazon to get their reviews on. These people's minds are gone. They're second opinionated.

1:00:00They're lowering their bars. These movies are subpar. They give them all five stars. Second opinionated. Amazing! What an amazing job. Thank you, Chris.

1:00:17Chris said he wrote that ten seconds before the show. you could not tell it was better than most of the songs in diana the musical um i would believe it if chris had written diana the musical diana the musical second opinions um so these are the reviews uh sadly just from the soundtrack on amazon oh when did this come is this came out in 2021 uh yeah so this was awarded all the razzies this year just a mere few weeks ago um so uh but people do mention the stage version and Netflix one a lot. So here are some reviews here. I'll start off with this one. From Man. Every performance is breathtakingly spot on.

1:01:02I would not change anything about this musical. A masterpiece. Five stars. Absolutely wonderful. There we go. Jennifer W. Hale writes, after seeing the Netflix show, I had to get the soundtrack. I know this is a controversial piece, but I love it. Five stars. This is a fun musical. I would say fun is not the word I would use. And then, okay. Two more quick ones. From an Amazon customer, I absolutely loved it. The music was so good. The cast is amazing. do yourself a favor and go see the Broadway show in person and then watch the Netflix iteration as well because it's just brilliant enough said.

1:01:58Five stars! Now here is the thing that was weird that Nate found. Nate Kiley, our amazing researcher, found out that a lot of the five star reviews happen to be for Shrek the musical. And they somehow are on the Diana page. So the ones I just read might have been for Shrek if they don't specifically say Diana because in the Diana musical ones we also found this one from Jandy. Jandy writes, this is a gift from my husband Tony who loves musicals, especially this one. He enjoys playing his cast album of Shrek while working on his computer. Five stars. Thank you, Jandy.

1:02:42June and I saw Shrek the musical. What? When? Remember we went to go see it at the Pantages? That was somebody else. We were there with Kulop and Scott and everybody. I will step out. You were definitely there. It was Kulop and Scott and everyone was there. I have no recollection of that. We got yelled at. How about this? This is the first I'm hearing that there is such a thing as a Shrek musical. It's on Netflix. Like this? Yeah. Oh. It's also on YouTube for free. Please do not make us watch it. Shrek the musical. Now, I will say Camilla Parker Bowles in that is actually, you'll see a different side of her.

1:03:23Would you recommend... She plays donkey? Oh. Oh, Shrek. Wait. That's the thing that makes you hurt? I can't believe him. Against me? I can't believe him. talking. Wow, despicable. It's the only other character I know from Shrek. Fiona. Should I have some lady Shrek? Lord Farquhar. I don't know from Shrek. I know there's a doggy. Would you recommend it? Cut that out. Actually, put it in twice. But instead, when I make the joke, instead of them booing, put in before when they chanted my name.

1:04:11I will kill regardless of what happens in this room. Would you recommend it? No! June. You know, it is something to see. And I do feel, like musicals in general, it's so hard to translate a stage production to a screen in general. It's not going to be as good. And so I do feel we've been judging this a bit unfairly. We might have had a different experience in the theater. Would you have enjoyed it more if you'd gone to the theater to see it? Would you have been more forgiving, perhaps? I think so. I think so. But in some ways, I think seeing everybody up close, seeing costumes up close, seeing all of that.

1:04:54Well, sorry, go ahead. No, too close doesn't. It's like that show, Is It a Cake? They have to watch. They look at the cake from like 15 feet away. you would like to look at this further away yeah one of my notes was one of my notes that I didn't say was would I have enjoyed this more if it had been filmed you're right not up close but like from the middle of the room and the audience been full of people enjoying the show it's kind of like that Bo Burnham special for Chris Rock where Spike Lee is taking up so much attention because he's like in the front row but you still feel like you're in the audience and I do like that idea I think that the audience not being here is a problem.

1:05:38I agree. Because this is like a Tony and Tina's wedding, a Charles and Diana wedding. I feel like it has like this element, but it's the wrong take for a story that is this dark. Listen, I don't think this succeeds necessarily on stage either. But I don't, but I think I would have enjoyed it. I might have enjoyed it more and been more forgiving. So you're saying your recommendation is go back in time and see it in the theater. Yeah, I mean, again, it seems it's playing on every TV in our home right now. We're making our children only watch Diana. Every one of those, that's why there's so many profiles on your Netflix, is so every TV can be playing this simultaneously.

1:06:19Everyone in our house watches something so different and it screws up everyone's algorithm, so I just made everyone their own profile. Yeah, you did.

1:06:31He really did. Is that for every app? Pretty much. It's for Disney Plus, too. It's for... He wants his own... His content on his own. Yeah. He doesn't want the rest of us. I don't want my content on my own. I just... Like, I was having trouble with that Netflix algorithm because you are watching anything where people are getting murdered all the time. And I'm like, how can I find the Atom Project? It's like, your version of Netflix, the Atom Project does not even exist. The answer is, don't find the Adam Project. Why are you looking for the Adam Project? It's supposed to be great. How do I find Free Guy?

1:07:08Ryan Reynolds sent me a case of Ginny's, a nice gentleman. I do think this is something to behold, though. It's something to see. And none of the songs are memorable. I would say they're impossible to even sing. Sure. Except for that gentleman there. They are, there's nothing hooky about anything. Yeah, there's nothing to hold on to. It really just is sung exposition, you know, for the most part. Well, good news. We're going to bring you to New York, and we're going to put this on for you, Jason. You are going to get to go and see this live in New York City. Let's go, everybody. We're all getting on a plane right now.

1:07:44The bus is outside. We're going to Broadway. All right. Well, that is it. A big thank you to April Halley, who has been sitting on this one for a long time. She's like, this needed to be a live show because you need to talk about the wonderful staging, the beautiful costumes. And you need to see it to believe it. Up in the booth tonight, our amazing sound engineer, Devin Bryant. Alec Dixon up there working all the sound and lights and everything like that. Our producer, Cody Fisher. Our producer, Molly Reynolds. And, of course, Nate Kiley does all of our research. Thank you to Largo. This is amazing to be here.

1:08:21We will see you soon. We'll be back.

From the publisher

Imagine a very creative sixth grader decided to do a musical book report on Princess Diana and you get the 2021 film, Diana: The Musical. LIVE from Largo in Los Angeles, Paul declares his love of the film’s stage design and gives us a taste of his British accent which is completely chuffed now, innit bruv? June schools Paul and Jason on the history of the Royals and Jason ponders if Paul reveals TOO MUCH of his personal information. (Ep. #291 Originally Released 04/21/2022)

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