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20:52Jason Mantzoukas:My favorite thing about Snake was... Are you guys cool? Are you guys best friends? Well, he told me to call him Snake. Wait, the... Kurt Russell. You're just afraid to say the last name. Kurt Russell. Plaskin. Plotnitz. That was with a B. Plotnick. Snake Plotnick. Snake Pachinsky Snake Plotnik there was just a there was just a moment Tommy Plotnik where they're they're flying into Disneyland at the end of the movie which by the way is a very long extension of LA like I felt like all the way to Anaheim yeah it's like that's a real big break they didn't even say Disneyland that's what like yeah they don't say it because they can't say it of course but then Snake is like is that what I think it is and I just like that Snake knows about Disneyland because that character does not seem like he would know So what kind of ride do they have there?

21:39Yeah, that's what I thought.

21:40Jason Mantzoukas:The ghosts get in the car with you at the end. Trippy. Yeah. Snake was like the guy who wrote the Thomas Guide. That's kind of who he is. No, and that wasn't funny, I guess. It's a very young audience. Very hot. You guys have ways. Fuck you. I'm 35. Very young. Very hot. Very young. Very hot. But I do think the beginning of this movie, I was like, oh, wow. Now, for this day and age, it seems more in line for what would be happening right now. It's like this island of deplorables. But I guess Cliff Robertson's more of a preacher. Although I don't really understand how an earthquake in California has installed a new president.

22:23Jason Mantzoukas:Right, right. He is president for life. Oh, yeah. He is president for life. Yeah, that was scary, right? Because it doesn't seem like most of the country is affected. It's like, New York's already an island. Right. Then another earthquake happens, and there's another island, and he's like, now I'm going to be president for life. I'm nervous that as long as Snake Plissken is alive, more and more of America will become island. Yeah. That's what's concerning to me. I kind of like that. I like Cahuenga Beach, though. That seemed really cool. Welcome to Cahuenga Beach. Do you feel like maybe that snake can't die?

23:01Is he an immortal? Oh, you think he's a highlander? I feel like there's just a tiny... I feel like they didn't... I mean, if that was true, they'd probably get into it more. But it was like, dude can't die. I feel like they kept saying, I thought you were dead. People shoot automatic weapons at him from very close distances and miss him entirely. Except for the one time that Steve Buscemi fires a gun during an earthquake and manages to wing him.

23:29Jason Mantzoukas:Which I think is only done because he gets hit in the leg in the first movie. Right. So it's like, we gotta balance it out. We did it in the first movie. Yeah. They should have gone for his other eye. Like, that's what I would do if I was trying to kill him. By the way, this movie, if his patch changed eyes throughout, it would be fine. No one would even comment. I did find it interesting, though, because everyone who is shooting at him or chasing him, they give up real easy. Like, at one point, he runs out in front of a building, goes into, like, a manhole, and the guy's like, ugh! All right.

23:58Yeah. Not only that, those guys, those are the guys in robes they run away in the opposite direction as if he's still shooting at them.

24:10Jason Mantzoukas:Oh man alive. Let's just see the opening here. I want to talk about Cuervo Jones. Oh yeah. There is so much. And Tass Lima. Is that how you say your name? I think so. I want to talk about oh yeah go ahead. I'll just make an opening to set the scene of how it all went down here.

24:59Here we go.

25:05After the devastation, the Constitution is amended and the newly elected president accepts a lifetime term of office. Los Angeles Island is declared no longer part of the United States and becomes the deportation point for all people found undesirable or unfit to live in the new moral America.

25:24Jason Mantzoukas:That's a fuckload of exposition. Yeah. Oh, my God. That's a lot. Like, even watching it now, it's like, wow, I didn't even remember it being that dense. Right. It's a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like they should have saved money on all those car accidents and worked more with the green screen. Because I feel like those car accidents seemed expensive. Well, first of all, the car accidents in this movie are done like a Star Trek battle bridge scene. It's the cameras doing 90 % of the earthquake work. Yeah, for sure. A lot of them. Crazy earthquake! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throughout the movie, every time there was a tremor or whatever, it was always like the camera.

25:59Shake that camera! Yeah, yeah. And the poor actors were like, whoa. Oh, no.

26:06Jason Mantzoukas:What do you think about the special effects in this movie? Flawless. I could not tell when they were being utilized. This movie is arguably one of the worst special effects I've ever seen. What about that shark, though? That looked real. I mean, that was another interesting thing about watching them back to back is that even though the first one was made, what, 10 years before? More, probably. Yeah, 15-something. The special effects work so much better in the first one than the second one. Well, this feels like the George Lucas school of special effects. There's special effects for no reason. Right, right.

26:44Jason Mantzoukas:But now here's the fact that kind of blew me away. This and Jurassic Park came out in the same year. What? You're lying. And this had a budget of$50 million. What? And Jurassic Park had a budget of$65. $15 million. Different, not much. Do you think Kurt Russell was like walking around the step being like, they're making dinosaurs over there. Wait to see this fucking shark. Do you think they, do you think John Carpenter saw Jurassic Park and was like, uh-oh. You guys, I'm going to tell you something really quick. When I saw Jurassic Park, I was in junior high. I wasn't a dumb-dumb, but I was in junior high.

27:23And when I watched it during the, like, you know, the scene where he like takes her head and he's like, you know, the brontosaurus scene. Look at that. I had a thought in my little like junior high head like, oh, I'm going to fuck Kurt Russell. I'm going to fuck this dinosaur. No, I thought like, oh, my God, I guess there really are dinosaurs somewhere. Oh, wow. I thought they were extinct. So you were stupid. No, no, no. No, no. No, you're like Stephen Russell. I did not say high school. I did not say high school. I said junior high. Junior high is a teenager. Okay. The young side of junior high.

27:59So you're 13 and you're thinking dinosaurs are real?

28:01Jason Mantzoukas:No, but I agree with you. They look so real and you've never seen anything like it. And it holds up to this day. It looks great. It looks great. This movie does not hold up to this day. No, no, no. It didn't hold up then. It couldn't have. That movie had barely made it to the theater. Yeah. But apparently they hired a graphic house that never did special effects before. Oh, man. That's very clear. That's so funny. They never did it. Yeah, these guys. We were behind them. So it seemed to me like just a bunch of people in a room just going, ah, shit, shit. But by the way, Universal Studios there.

28:36Fuck, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In a movie where there's a character named Cuervo Jones, they're doing just fine. I would argue that they're doing work up to the level of the script. Yeah, the script is so bad. Look at this.

28:52Jason Mantzoukas:Ew. There's some of the... Go back to some tiny bits. By the way, so the joke in this is that he's in a submarine, and he's in a submarine, and then Jaws, the shark Jaws, almost eats the submarine. As if, to your point, Jaws is kept, the real shark is kept at Universal Studios, and the earthquake simply let him go free. Not that Jaws at Universal is a... I didn't even make that connection. I just thought there was a shark in the water Yeah me too No I think you're right Clearly to go to Universal Why is he able to fly Or drive any device Or machine Because he's Snake Plitzkin The most famous man in the world What's his name?

29:40This name is a real hurdle for us Plitzkin Snake Plitzkin Snake Plitzkin Snake Felskin. Snake Felskin. Plitskin. Plitskin. Snake Plitskin. Snake Plitskin. Look, the problem, his name is the least of our worries. It's not Plitskin. Plitskin. Ew. There's no T in it? Plit. Plitskin. Like Clitskin?

30:03Jason Mantzoukas:Plitskin. Plitskin. It's Plitskin. I think it's technically... It Plitskins on the lotion on itself. Oh, I see. It rubs the Plitskin on it. It rubs the lotion on its Plitskin. Just turn down the lights for a second, and people, if you're listening while driving, close your eyes. And just picture this. This is the worst CGI scene right here. You can just see it. That's it. What is it? This is just CGI. That's Cahuenga Beach. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ew! It's so... It's not even video games of the time were that bad. It's the level of the VR in Lawnmower Man. But yet the VR that they posit in this movie makes no sense.

30:48Well, that's just like video quality. You mean like when he goes into like where Rayanne is doing, stealing the black box? Yes.

30:58Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Well, he goes in there and then there's a camera in the room that was taping her, but then who was taping the other? Who was making the VR tape? Where are the other 500 cameras that must be covering every bit of the room? Oh, boy. No, none. And he seemingly just kind of like, Like, it's, I don't know, his reaction to VR. He also seemed unfazed. Yeah. He was like, well, I guess I'm in virtual reality. Again, he knows about Disney. He's into virtual reality. He writes for a tech blog. It's all what Snake Plotkin does. Plotkin, that's it. Plotkin. I love. Plotkin. What? Someone yelled something.

31:37What's happening? What happened? What's happening? What are we doing right now?

31:40Jason Mantzoukas:Someone yelled hot shot? Maybe plot shot. What do we think? Hot shot. A hot shot. Maybe that's a basketball reference later on in the movie. We'll get to it. Let's get to that basketball scene. I want to get to it. I want to also just say, like, I love, well, Cuervo Jones. We're first introduced to Cuervo Jones. I don't hate him.

32:02You are, like, horny for the guys. I know. I'm normal horny. You're all over the place. I'm normal horny. Wait, so.

32:10Jason Mantzoukas:I'm normal horny, Darcy Carden. Wait, so your fuckability of Kurt Russell goes down, but then Cuervo Jones goes up? Well, Cuervo Jones does this thing when you first introduced him where he's throwing a dove, and the dove clearly was not participating. That's from virtual reality as well, right? Yes, he's right. So he throws this dove, and I think the idea would be he throws a dove and it goes up. He did have a magician vibe to me. I had to rewind that. I did not understand what was happening. I had to go back because I couldn't even understand what was happening. What they were saying was she was communicating to him over like these video messages.

32:48She had become isolated and lonely. Right. And Cuervo Jones. The Cuervo Jones. Did anybody else think of the Steely Dan song? Every time they said Cuervo Jones. Anyway. And that he was invading Rayanne's. AJ Langer will only be. Don't call her that. Rayanne. Rayanne Graham. From My So-Called Life Forever. Yeah, forever. It was hard to get past that. Wait, do people not know that she's Raeanne? You know that, right? Okay. She had the funky hair and it's super cool. The best. The best. She's the best. Come on. She did? Oh, yeah. Great episode. Come on. Come on. Anyway, he was communicating to her.

33:31That's how they feel like he got to her, was through her VR.

33:35Jason Mantzoukas:Well, interesting thing about Utopia, her character's name, Utopia. Oh, but wait. The dove was not participating. So he goes to toss the dove up, but the dove just goes down. And they replay it so many times that you can't not notice the dove going like... It is the least impressive romantic gesture you can do. It's like pulling a dead rabbit out of your hat. Here's the odd thing about this. Goldie Hawn was supposed to be Utopia. What on earth are you talking about? But she was in the hospital during some of the shooting of this. That's not possible. T.O. T.O. I know, that makes no sense. Hold on.

34:21Jason Mantzoukas:I'll get there. Hot shot! Hey! Hot shot! Hot shot! Everyone calm down. This crowd is getting out of control. Ooh, the late crowd is wasted. Slot skin! They're hammered and rowdy. I set the shit up and then I bring it home. And then they auditioned Kate Hudson. What? Who? Who? Who? Yes. Okay, so it was going to be Goldie Hawn. So he wanted it to be Goldie Hawn. She couldn't do it. And they're like, well, let's audition my daughter to do it. And then she didn't get it. He must have been so pish. She must have been very young, though, at the time. Yes, she must have been. Well. I feel like she would have been very young.

35:00She could do it. She's seven.

35:02Jason Mantzoukas:I bet you. What year did this come out? I bet you Utopia would have been the president's wife if it was the other way. Yeah, I bet that's true. What year did this come out again? 96. So she would have been like 15, 16? Yeah, baby. Yeah. Yeah. That's about normal. That would be about right. I mean, she could do it. Yeah. Kate could do it. Kate could do it? Kate could do it. She said call her Kate.

35:27And Utopia and PlotSkin didn't have like a sexy relationship. No. She seemed to be engaged entirely with Cuervo Jones. Cuervo. Yeah. The Cuervo Jones. Cuervo would have been so mad.

35:43Jason Mantzoukas:A wonderful night. They get, after Snake takes the submarine to L.A., one of the first things he sees in L.A. is the most peaceful drive-by shooting I've ever seen. It's like two leisurely cars. It's like pop, pop, pop. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Right. A great day for a drive-by. And that and Peter Fonda. Whoa. Right? Peter Fonda? Someone just said oof, and that is so true. An audible oof. And that is so true. It was so oof. It's embarrassing. That is an embarrassing... I had to look up Peter Fonda because I was like, don't we respect him as an actor? That was a bad move. I feel like this is part of Peter Fonda's comeback.

36:28Jason Mantzoukas:What did you find out? Where it is? You do? I think we do. Yeah, no, he was redeemed. He's pretty respectful. Julie's gold. Where did you find Peter Fonda's fuckability? I don't, I'm normal horny. I don't want to just fuck things. But Quervo Jones. Quervo Jones is not a thing. Nobody's suggesting things. He's a movie star. I'm not attracted to Peter Fonda. Nobody's suggesting he or Fonda no. Kurt Russell was, but not. Quervo Jones. didn't know now into Peter Fonda always not. Always not. Are you attracted to Peter Fonda? No, not at all. I'm glad he's a great guy. Does he listen to the podcast?

37:12Yeah, he does.

37:14Jason Mantzoukas:Peter Fonda has actually been on the podcast via an interview that someone, a friend of the show. Thank you, I have Peter Fonda, friend of the show. So much audience participation, guys. I'm going to need you to shut it down. Hot shot, hot shot. Shut your mouth! Friend of the show. All right, so Snake is in L.A. Well, there's so much stuff going on. Stacey Keach and Michelle Forbes, who I think is always great. I love Stacey Keach. Valima. Is that how you say her name? Oh, yeah, yeah. No. Tesla? What's her name? Her name is... Talisma. Talisma, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no. That's... Wait, no.

37:54Jason Mantzoukas:Her name... Hold on. That's Valerie Galino as Talissima. Are we talking Hot Shots girl? Hot Shots girl is brazen. Oh, is that why you said Hot Shots? Because she's in Hot Shots? But wait, had we even talked about her yet? Or are you just like, get to the girl from Hot Shots? Talk about the girl! They fried an egg on her stomach! I'm a nerd in a podcast, but I want to talk about the girl! Hot Shots is a deep dive for Michelle Forbes. It's like she's also been No, not Michelle Forbes. Isn't it Valerie Galino? Oh, Valerie Galino No, no, yes, you're right. That's Hot Shots. It isn't a deep dive, right?

38:29Jason Mantzoukas:No, that's it probably. No, no, I think she's actually done a ton. Hot Shots! Hot Shots! Hot Shots! Now look when you guys yell it out. Hot Shots! Yeah, there you go. No, someone's fight. Fight each other. Kids. Kate Hudson! Mint mobile plans are only$15 a month. I mean, what's the catch? Well, here's the thing. There isn't one. There's no gimmicks, no gotchas, just unlimited talk, text, and data, fast, reliable coverage on the nation's largest 5G network, and an award-winning care team. That makes Mint Mobile a catch. I mean, honestly, what else do you need? You can bring your current phone number and phone with you.

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42:38Jason Mantzoukas:That's what they're so scared about. They are, they are. Well, we were talking about this a little bit backstage. That was, I guess, the fear in 1996 was the ozone. Especially, I think, in L.A. It was always like, pollution. L.A. is so smoggy, pollution. You're going to get in this zone where you're going to get, I guess... Cancer? Yeah. I mean, they don't really talk about the effects of UV rays. Nor do they talk about the effects of the acid rain that's apparently... Oh, yeah, that's right. Raining down Peter Fonda's like, you gotta put the hood up. Snake's like, I'm cool. Yeah. He's got a luxurious head of hair.

43:12Not only that, but he falls into a sewer that must be full of acid rain. Acid rain. Like, why is it? He should be so dead, except he's such an undeniable hunk. That's what I'm saying. He can't die. The man can't die. Maybe he's the hologram the entire time. Well, see, that's... Then when he... Not to cut to the end, but here I go. When the explosion happens and he walks out, I'm like, dude's a vampire. Something, something. thing i was like he he he can't die this man can't die and then he's a fucking hologram

43:39Jason Mantzoukas:it's funny he's a vampire because it was interesting as one side of this was that um they thought this was gonna be a huge franchise for snake plissken right so it's gonna be escape from new york escape from la escape from mars really that was the third one and then john carver is like well i guess people don't like snake plissken anymore so he just made vampires from Mars. Like he's made like a movie. Wait, there's a movie called Vampires from Mars? If I write it wrong, it's like a ghost, ghosts of Mars. Ghosts of Mars. Are there vampires in that? Should we do that? Yeah. Is it good? Do we hear?

44:18I mean, is it good for us? Yeah. Not even for this? Interesting mix. So you think, he thinks just it was Snake Plissken, that was the problem? He's like, it's not the world that I've created? It's like, they've just given up on that character. I think it is. I actually, I do think, I mean, no disrespect, I guess all disrespect to Kurt Russell, but like it ain't good. He's great and we love him, but like that is it's not good. It's just a voice, right? There's nothing more to his character than a voice. There's not a lot of levels to stay close. There's nothing more. I feel like he's trying to do I feel like this for him is his version of, he thinks he's doing his version of Clint Eastwood's man with no name.

45:00Right. You know, like just like a few lines of dialogue, gruff voice, no emotional involvement, nothing. Why doesn't it work? It doesn't work though in this. It's like, well, I feel like this one is like, because it becomes a little jokey too. Yeah. Well, once he gets in the submarine, that's sort of the problem. We've already talked about that.

45:20Jason Mantzoukas:Once he gets to LA. It starts off like, yeah, he does start off as a badass. I'm like, I like him there. But just like everybody else, once he gets to LA, fucking changes, changes, totally loses his head. He becomes an L.A. asshole. Totally changes. I mean, it is kind of about that, right? Yeah, I mean, this movie is a metaphor for a lot of things. For sure, making like a big comment. He almost gets a bunch of plastic surgery. The plastic surgery. Bruce Campbell. Right. I hated that scene. That scene made me feel ill. I don't like scenes like that. I don't like that scene from Brazil where they take Mona from the boss's face and pull it.

45:57I thought of that, too. I thought that. I actually loved that scene. I loved the scene where it was like all the plastic surgery and I was like people really look like this now this is like reality television I'm looking at real housewives yeah that's true yeah that's right assholes I knew though as the scene was happening I was like he's going to grab her boobs and say those are real I knew it was going to happen and then he did it and it was so great I had a problem with his sense of direction it's great to know your pervert ESP no no it worked out Oh, I bet this broad's about to get felt up by a weirdo.

46:35Ooh. Hey, babe, I was right. They are real. I just knew as a cheesy way, not as like, oh, yeah, let's grab some fucking weird tits.

46:46Jason Mantzoukas:But I felt like his sense of direction in L.A. was also kind of off, too. He had to go to the Hollywood Bowl, right? But then he walked by Capitol Records, and then he walked by Man's Chinese Theater, and he's like, where's the Hollywood Bowl? I was like, yeah, you passed it. You were closer. Yeah, you were. You were already there. He was on Cahuenga Beach. Yeah. At Cahuenga Beach. He landed at the Hollywood Bowl and then he headed to the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah, he walked away. Come on, guys. He passed it. He passed it. Yeah. I mean, that's a tiny problem. They should have given him a Thomas guy.

47:19What's interesting to me is that this movie is the original, like, they give him a disease, or a virus, rather, and are like, you have 10 hours, blah, blah, blah. This is the original Crank.

47:33Jason Mantzoukas:I guess you're right. This is the same, like, Crank is the same storyline. We're going to do something to you, fuck you up, and as a result, you're going to have to do what we want you to do. As someone who loves Crank, that's really fucked up. But there seems to be no driving force because in Crank, Statham's like, fuck, and in this, he's like, meh. Well, that's the thing. is they've given him something that arguably makes him less likely to succeed. That's the funniest. They're like, you're going to basically be really tired. Yeah. You're just going to get closer and closer to dying. He just has mono, basically.

48:11He doesn't care. He doesn't care. That's the one thing. It's such a funny thing to give him. He's not that stressed about this horrible disease the whole time. Just walking around trying to kill people. Or you think he would just be stressed about it. And everybody's like, are you Snake Plissken? Why is he so famous? He's so famous. Why is he so fucking famous? Everyone knows him. He's so famous. He gets to LA and he's so famous. Aren't you Snake Plissken? Literally, what could he do? Apparently, whatever he did in Cleveland, everybody was like, oh shit. I thought they had to be in Cleveland, man.

48:43Jason Mantzoukas:It seems to be petty shit. Right. It's like, because he's hanging out with a car thief, Hershey. Oh, I didn't even realize Hershey. I didn't either. Oh my God, I didn't either. I didn't either. I thought it was like a bad black pun. I did too. Now I realize it's a terrible other pun.

49:05Pam Greer was like, she kind of was dope in this movie.

49:08Jason Mantzoukas:I like Pam Greer in this. Anytime, Pam Greer on a hang glider with a machine gun. Home run movie. A plus. Five stars. Anybody hanging out. That hand gliding scene, again, it's a low impact thing. It's like gliding. They are in such close proximity to people shooting machine guns at them. None of them are shot. No bodies, no hand glides. Zero. The only time he made sense was in the beginning when he shot them and they're like, those are blanks. Oh, yeah. That was even... That was retarded. I thought you might try that. You did? Yeah. You know what? Make sure he's got this, but make sure he's got one clip of blanks.

50:05Make sure that's the clip that's in the gun, because he's definitely going to try and shoot us. We've already fooled him with the hologram thing, so we can't do that again. That went like this. They were holograms. Yes. And then in the next scene, they weren't holograms, but they introduced him to all of the weapons. Yeah.

50:24Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, yeah. And then the next scene. Because now I guess maybe he fucked his head enough. He's like, well, now he doesn't know. Are there blanks or not blanks? He won't try. They gave him his own guns. Right. Yeah. So what if he, instead of being like, had just been like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. That'd be Deadsville. Yeah. End of movie. Right. Credits. Credits. By the way, that would have been the best. That's not a 40 minute. John Carpenter is stealing$60 million. dollars. It's a four minute movie. Most of it is narration at the top done by... Steve Buscemi is in this movie. Yeah, he is.

50:54Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. The bouche is loose. The bouche is loose. He comes in as a character that I can't describe. He's an agent. Yeah. Wait, what? Or he's an agent. He's really... I mean, he's like the map to the stars guy. Yeah, he's the map to the stars guy, but he reveals he's an agent. He's like, we're going to make a lot of money, Snake. But where? There's no more. Show business is underwater. He's a terrible agent. Well, the shark is even out of work. I mean, the shark is trying to eat submarines. But what is he representing in the deplorable world? I think he was sneaking in being an agent. I don't think he was really an agent.

51:33I think he was a scam artist, right? He was trying to make a damn buck. That's the impression I got. That he was going with whoever he thought was going to give him the most access.

51:43Jason Mantzoukas:So he's just lying about his own profession. At first, I thought he was going to be like Cabby from the first movie, but he was not like Cabby. I thought he was going to be like a sweet old, you know, dummy. I was hoping that he was going to get excited and send Snake out for pilot season. Here, here's some sides. Read this. What do you think you can play? How old can you play? I can pull off 18. Snake, you're up against Cuervo Jones for this role. So remake of Bosom Buddies. You'll play Bouty. Wait, Bosom Buddies? Belki? That's right. You're a terrible agent. You're a terrible agent. This is ridiculous.

52:21No, we'll do it more than that. Everybody knows that Belki is from Perfect Strangers. Not Bosom Buddies.

52:29Jason Mantzoukas:Cuervo Jones and him. Belki Bartokomus. Yeah. It's the reason I got into acting, everybody. No, no. You are from Meepos, right? I can do this. I got this. Your family is from Meepos, right? Yes, we are from Meepo's. We came over on the boat from Meepo's. With a sign that said USA or Burst? Yep. I was like, if Belki can make it in L.A., I can make it in L.A. And look at you. Look at me. Don't look at me. You're standing tall, Jason, on the way to your dreams. Now, um. That show was on Tuesdays and Thursdays, by the way. Perfect Strangers was on twice a week. Really? FYI, yes. New shows? Imagine.

53:09What? Just pumping out Perfect Strangers like that. That's crazy. Crazy. Tuesdays and Thursdays. I watched it all the time. Anyways, that was a side note. I will say this. A network did develop a very perfect Strangers type show that I did the table read for as the foreign cousin.

53:26Jason Mantzoukas:Really? And I was like, this is where I'm at. This was a long time ago, but I was like, yeah. It makes sense that I'm playing the Balky part. Right, right, right. Guys, my life is great. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not us and laddies. Jason, is that character with us tonight? Huh? Go to hell.

53:50You can watch him in The Dictator.

53:54Jason Mantzoukas:The basketball sequence. Yeah, let's talk about that. This is... This was amazing. I also want to talk about when Valerie Galena hits on Snake Plissken. She's basically like, I want to make you feel good. And then she goes, my boyfriend and I broke up tonight. Yeah, tonight. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight. Right before we were kidnapped. I want you to come home. Yeah. She's a little bit, I don't want to be like, you know, but she seems, it's a little bit slutty a little bit, right? I mean, she just breaks up. Dan, I'm not going to slut shame her at all. I don't want to, I don't want to. She's after whatever she wants.

54:29A lovely girl. She's not found out. She's got out. Right. She's a beautiful person. But I'm also like, why do we need to know that she and her boyfriend broke up? So it's pure. We didn't see a boyfriend. She can't just be single. It also seems like a lie. It's like a very aggressive thing to tell someone. Like, you woke up tonight. She was just being honest. I'm into it.

54:48Jason Mantzoukas:Well, Snake has to, you know, do a challenge. This is my love-hate relationship with this movie because I applaud the insanity of it. Like, it's like, okay, his challenge is to make 10 points on a full-size basketball court. So he's got to make a basket. Every 10 seconds. Every 10 seconds. Every 10 seconds, run to another basket. So he's got to run up and down the court. So it's a little bit of a cardio exercise. And Cuervo Jones at one point goes, he's getting tired now. I was like, no, not really. But he's shooting baskets, and the person before him, he chops someone's head off in front of him, and the blood splatter into his face.

55:29And he's like, no, you will play basketball. Here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. The basketball court is enclosed in fence, right? And there are gunmen all around it. Shooting the one person on the court. A.K.A. shooting each other today. Why did they know what he does? But everyone has terrible aim. There's no collateral damage. The same thing happens at the end of the movie. Yes, it does, Jason. They encircle the hologram, which we don't know is a hologram. And they fucking blast it. I totally saw that. Everybody would be killing it. Everybody's so stupid in this movie. Well, really, when he was on the fence, when he was on the fence paying off, and they were shot at him so much, that was the one time where, like, he's dead now.

56:12Right, right, right. He's dead. When they did this circle, like, when all the guys were shooting him in the middle of the basketball court, I truly, the words in my head were like, how did this get made?

56:21Jason Mantzoukas:But there was, but here's my thought, too, is, like, you can, it's not real, right? We all can agree with that. Wait, this wasn't a documentary? This is real. This is real, Paul. This was a reality show. This was a documentary. Guys, I... Shot in the year 2013. It was not real. But no, like, so at a certain point, someone would have to be like, huh, maybe we should put him in a circle. Like, it wasn't like we had to put him in a circle. Like, there's no reason for any of it. And even like the part where he's like climbing over the fence and Cuervo's getting his gun, like, well, just make it more cumbersome.

56:57Jason Mantzoukas:Like, make him not get the gun so quickly. But he gets the gun quickly. He's like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Now I'm just going to hold it here and I won't do anything. That awesome shot of the red circle around him. Yeah, for a long time. Very long time. As a director, you could at least maybe cut that scene tighter so it feels like, oh, he just missed him. Nope. I'm going to leave that red dot on him. He had the perfect shot for seconds. Oh, yeah. That's where you thought the director was going to take control of the movie. And also, there is a stadium full of armed people. Right. He also could just be like, shoot him.

57:29Yeah. Shoot him. If you ever want to, don't do this. But go back and watch that scene because they're all kind of like waving their guns in the air. A lot of them are like rubber and they're just kind of like doing, they're going like, well, they, I mean, they've been won over.

57:42Jason Mantzoukas:They've been won over by an amazing basketball performance and we know it's amazing because they put it in slow-mo. Oh. This is, and by the way, I love it. And Kurt Russell made all these shots himself. And he like, he was one of the writers of this movie, right? Yes, he was. So he just wanted to show off his basketball skills. First and only writer's credit and apparently his real addition to it was the ending, which would be the only thing that would be slightly different. We've got to play basketball in this movie. Yeah, this is some of the best basketball. Okay, right here, Graff standing up.

58:13Why does he make eye contact with her? Because he's like, look what's going to happen. You're wasting time, bro. In these seconds, he could have moved. I know. And in the heat, he said he gave us a gun. I think he really did make it. It would have been great if he missed. do you know how many people could do that like nobody would ever die in that challenge because it would be easy okay well according to Cuervo every fucking person died in that challenge and by the way

58:44Jason Mantzoukas:why is there such a big crowd if everyone's dying you'd be like oh I guess they're just gonna execute somebody after they make six points like I mean it's like it doesn't seem like they're not playing against each other like there's no like that's the undefeated team like you gotta play you gotta play the big man and all of a sudden, Shaquille O 'Neal makes an acting appearance. Great. And he's covered head to toe in some sort of steel. Not his costume steel from the movie Steel. Wait, he's just wearing steel? Unrelated to his performance in the movie Steel? Yeah, just to give him something a little fun to wear.

59:16Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, that seems confusing. Armor, sort of. Yeah, sort of armor. Old school knight's armor. Why? Like Martin Lawrence Black Knight. What? To play basketball? Who knows? It's the future. It seems like it's a steel tie-in. Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. Maybe he's got a big hammer like that character, Steel, but it's not related to... This, again, seems like Steel. I don't know. And people call me hero and whatever. It's no big deal. That is for sure Steel. Now, I'm no weatherman, but that was a lame tsunami. Hold out. What? Well, not professionally. Amateur meteorologist. You bet. But no, that tsunami that they prepare for didn't seem to be that...

59:58Jason Mantzoukas:It actually kind of seemed nice. The one that Peter Fonda was like, tsunami, bro! Snake is able to surf the tsunami with a bullet in his leg. So it can't have been that bad. And have small talk. And high five. And jump on the back of Steve Buscemi's car. He loves jumping on a car. Oh my God, how did this scene happen? This scene is out of fucking control. And still no mention of his sickness that he's dying so soon. Right, right, right. Yeah. You think he'd be like, oh, I really got to solve this whole thing. Well, you know, he did cough a lot. That's true. Throughout, just like. I noticed that they would ADR coughs in a lot.

1:00:36Jason Mantzoukas:But here's the thing. Spoiler alert. It's not really a poison. Oh, wait. Is this for this movie? Don't tell me. Oh. Okay, go ahead. Wait, no, no. You saw it. But no, he was never sick. So Snake is like a psychosomatic kind of character. No, it gives him the flu, they said. Oh, okay. That's true, that's true. Whatever they called it was the equivalent of the flu. They were like, you fucking idiot. You have the flu. You dumb shit. You fell for it, you idiot. It's so funny if he had to blow his nose throughout the entire movie. The most unattractive thing is like... Right. I need some emergency. Can I get some emergency?

1:01:17Yeah. It would be amazing if he just got diarrhea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, we just gave you diarrhea. You ain't going to die. He's like, we got to surf this shit out. And he's like. For those of you at home, Jason's pretending to surf while doing diarrhea.

1:01:31Jason Mantzoukas:And to the idea that someone agrees like that is a smart idea. Like, yeah, we got to give him diarrhea. He's going to be shot, but he's not going to notice because he's going to have explosive diarrhea. By the way, they gave up on him so quickly when he first landed there. and he gets captured. You're like, he's dead. Wait, just give him a second. Here's the, and I love Snake Plissken. I love Escape from New York. He's a fucking idiot in this movie. Every move he makes from the minute he maxes out the sub forward. Why did he do that? Why? Why max out the sub? Why did he do that? Why crash the sub?

1:02:05Why do everything, every step of the way, he's caught by everyone. Because everyone knows him. Oh, Snake. Everyone catches him. Yeah. Because everyone knows him everywhere he goes. Snake Blitzkens. The most famous in the world. And he's basically like, where's Cuervo Jones? Bang, bang, bang, bang. He's like the least subtle. Right. Least effective. And everyone's like, you're shorter than I thought you were. Yeah. Which I liked as a runner. Sure. In terms of like, you're a tiny hunk of a man. Right, right, right. Right.

1:02:35Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he, but I guess my question is too, like, he, I guess he's never at peace, Snake. You know, he. Why did they put him on the treadmill? It's L.A., baby. It's L.A. Maybe they thought there would be a basketball game coming up in his future. He ended that cardio great. Was it to warm him up? Like, honestly, why did they put him on the treadmill? Like, that scene where the... He's got to fill in insurance paperwork. Hey, before we put you in this execution scenario, we've got to make sure you are physically... We've got to do a stress test. We've got to do a stress test on your heart.

1:03:08When they cut to Cuervo Jones talking to the world, like, I'm going to do this thing, and I've got the button, and blah, blah, blah. Right. And Snake Blitzkens is just in the background. And that's how they realize he's still alive. And Stacey Keach is like, wait a minute. That's Snake Blitzkens. Why is he on a treadmill? I don't know.

1:03:28Jason Mantzoukas:He's doing a turkey trot. I don't know why they put him on that treadmill. But the other thing about it is like he, I feel like this is what the problem with the whole movie is. It's written by someone who was doing some sort of drugs and there's like elements of it that's like, yeah, this is fucking going to be great. And then this other part is like, put him on a fucking treadmill. Put him in a hand glider. I don't care. He's going to crash into the Matterhorn. Make that a moment. It's a fucking Matterhorn from Walt Disney World. It's not that imposing mountain. Pull up! Pull up! We're going to hit this fiberglass mountain.

1:04:00It's maybe made out of styrofoam. It doesn't work.

1:04:05Jason Mantzoukas:He, um, if there was a, what was it here? This is, um. Wait, you guys, why did he, when Pam Greer was talking, why did he go like, I'd recognize that voice anywhere? because it was his old partner the car thief oh They had been together in Cleveland. That's part of the lost Cleveland crime. It was like fast Eddie. Carjack. Carjack. Carjack Malone. She used to be called Carjack. Wait, was that character in Escape from New York? No. No. Okay. That's why you were joking about Escape from Cleveland, but we almost need Escape from Cleveland to make this movie make sense. Guys, I'm telling you, I will finance the making of Escape from Cleveland.

1:04:46Kurt Russell. Call me?

1:04:49Jason Mantzoukas:Carjack Malone is also based on a dude that John Carpenter knew. I name all my characters after the people I hang out with who sell me cocaine. Allegedly. You'll be in the movie. How much for this? You guys, can I ask the audience a question? Yeah, please. One time a dude told me that I look like Pam Greer. Do you guys think I do? no I thought it was pretty cool it's not a bad thing it's not a bad thing but it's definitely not true I kind of think I do I kind of see it look at me from the side I mean do I look like Kurt Russell? I mean do I look like a shark? ish alright this is this is the thing that made me most upset about this movie and it was not anything that was on Guys, let me ask you a question.

1:05:40If I put on a beret, would I look like Cuervo Jones?

1:05:46Yes. Ish. If this movie gets remade. Ish. Not wrong.

1:05:58Jason Mantzoukas:Jason, that is your Halloween costume. And everybody will know. Cuervo Jones. Who am I? Oh, I'm Cuervo Jones? You know it. You know. You know. You know from Escape from L.A. Escape from L.A. You should be. I hate to think. Cuervo Jones. No, I'm not Che Guevara. Nope. Nope. I understand how you might think I'm Che Guevara. Nope. No, no, no. I'm Cuervo Jones. Cuervo Jones. No. Cuervo. Not Balki, but I'm in the remake. I'm not Balki Bartokomus. I'm Cuervo Jones. Yes, I know it's racist, but. Okay. Your favorite thing. Your worst thing. My worst thing was this. this movie shot for 70 days straight, only night shoots.

1:06:44Jason Mantzoukas:Whoa. Oof. That made me like real bummed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hard. And that's why I think the treadmill's there. I think that's why it's like, I don't fucking know. Put him on a treadmill. We have a treadmill. Can I just go home? I'm so tired. Can I go home? Yeah. I don't know night from fucking day. That's how to make someone insane. Yeah. 70 days, night shoots. And he's not really off screen ever. Right. Oh, no. So that would be hellish. Yeah, that's true. Now I feel bad for saying he's not fuckable. Night shoots and doing this movie at night. That's also happening. And like getting the script and being like, okay, what do I say here?

1:07:22Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, boy. You could kind of feel that. You could kind of, I felt like you could kind of feel the actors a little bit like being embarrassed. Not to keep on going back, but when he got in that submarine and he kind of was like, On his belly? that was that was okay he's not into this at all actually I just I just had a memory of watching the movie this very day just two days ago and sitting next to my dog and like looking over at my dog and being embarrassed that I was watching the movie I will say at the dog at the dog playground there it's like oh man I gotta watch I watched both of them what? yeah she only had to watch one for the podcast but I had to watch both I like that you think it's called a dog playground

1:08:15We're having fun, Doug

1:08:17Jason Mantzoukas:We're just having a great time Going up and down I mean, technically that's what's happening Well, let's go to the audience Let's talk to the audience Oh, these assholes? Let's see, they've already been so vocal But let's see what you guys have to say Oh, let me bring my bag of goodies for you all. So, if you... I want you to give me your name, a name of a character that might exist here in Escape from L.A. Uh-oh, there's someone dressed up like Snake Plissken. Oh, yay! All right. Darcy, don't fuck this guy. Bravo! Amazing. Wait a second. Is he a hologram? I put my finger... Jason, he's coming for you.

1:09:00Bring him up here. Darcy's going to cheat on her husband. I'm normal horny.

1:09:08Jason Mantzoukas:All right, sir. Your name, your character name from some of the... This is very cool. The jacket is legit. My name is Blake. Blake. Love it. Blake Plisskin. Blake Slitskin. Don't look at me like that, asshole. you left the house with an eye patch in your pocket he's way too committed I'm scared he's gonna murder us all on stage Bangkok rules alright and name of a character that could exist in this world Blake Plissken love it and your question observation or explanation hope question for the curly haired guy I hate you already oh my god this is so bad he's cruising for a damn bruising What is it?

1:09:57You mean Cuervo Jones? You thought I was funnier? I thought you'd be funnier. Oh, it doesn't matter. You paid for the show. Your money's in my pocket, asshole!

1:10:08Jason Mantzoukas:Did you really come up for... I invited you on stage. Blake! You can't wear that outfit and then make fun of me. Get back to your stage. Wait, Blake, that wasn't a question. Go back, Blake. Blake Plifkin. Boo! Boo! Well done. That's what he wants. That's what he wants. All right, yes, your question. Would Kurt Russell be as famous, as amazing as he is, if it wasn't without that beautiful, beautiful hair? The hair. The hair is amazing. The hair is almost everything. I'm trying to give you a second. I agree. I mean, I agree. And he looks great. He looks amazing. He's like an incredibly handsome man.

1:10:53He's got a luxurious head of hair. He's like a boyish, kind of...

1:10:58Jason Mantzoukas:What? I'm just noticing no women have raised their hand for this movie. That's a very... Oh, there's one over here. I see some gals. There's one over here. Come here. What's your name? Amy. Okay, great. Hi, Amy. Hi. A name of a character that could exist in Escape from L.A.? Donald Trump. Okay, great. Love it. And again, sheepishly, I like it. And then your question. I'm just going to agree with his comment. How does the snake duck... Are you pointing at me? Yeah, you. You've been killing all... Thank you, Amy. But you still don't know my name? Do you not know my name? This is not like a forum.

1:11:40We're not voting on things. She knows. Jason, I know your name, Jason. Thank you, Amy. Big fan of the league. Huge fan of yours, Amy. Only reason I'm here tonight. Oh, my God. I love connection. I was in the league, too. I know. But you're married Someone's getting The socket locket Who? Jason? I think that's technically A socket cocket Guys I gotta go I'll see you later Blake

1:12:09Jason Mantzoukas:How do you like him Now Blake Let's say he's What are your questions? Sorry go ahead Amy Oh yes what's your comment Amy? How does a snake Dodge bullets It's just what you said earlier But then He gets hit by the bolo It's called a bolo. Yeah, bolo. Right? I looked it up. I looked it up, too. Because I was like, oh, that's a cat. That's Cuervo Jones' weapon of choice. The same weapon that a thundercat used. Is two weights on either side of a string. Yes. Oh, yeah, that thing. He's also trapped very easily by a net. He's bad at his job. But by the way, you try to escape the net. That net part was kind of Jurassic Park-y to me.

1:12:53Like the part where the guy was like, you know, he was like being flanked from all sides of a girl or whatever. It's crazy to think that that's the same fucking year. I'm going to kill myself.

1:13:04Jason Mantzoukas:Darcy! Maybe Steven Spielberg took every good computer editor. Like, so that one year, every other movie sucked. All right, so, sir, your name, your character name, and your question. Here we go. My name is Ben, and my character name is Hunter Mongoose. Ooh, I like that a lot. That's legit. By the way, get it written. Yeah. Yeah, just make it. Hunter Mongoose is definitely an escape from Cleveland. Yeah. Hunter. Put it on the Kickstarter. Hunter Mongoose. Hey, Paul. Part Android. Paul, I'm going to just put you on pause for one second. Ma 'am, are you asleep?

1:13:43You are, though. Boyfriend? How could you be sleeping? Is she asleep? No. You are, though. We will send fucking Blake to you. She's pretending it's a podcast. She's pretending it's a podcast. She's pretending it's a podcast. She's pretending it's a podcast. I will scream at you! You are five feet away from me. You cannot fall asleep during the show. Do you understand what's happening? Okay, good. Paul, please continue.

1:14:07Jason Mantzoukas:Yep. Okay, Hunter. Hunter Mongoose, your question. So, every time Snake spends any length conversing with a woman, someone is either shot, he is shot, He is theoretically poisoned. And the same thing happens in Escape from New York. He has a conversation and she gets consumed by sewer people. By the ground, yeah. So, given that they upped the level of this, why do you think they thought it was more important to include more, you know, like, was it hammering in the point of just, if snakes talk to women, terrible things happen? Wow. Yeah. That's deep. I did sort of notice that, that, like, anytime he had any sort of even remote love connection, It's that very terrible thing of motivating a man by killing the woman that he might be interested in.

1:14:58Right, right, right. Which is a fairly reprehensible thing. Sure. But that is perfectly in line with this era of movie making. Right. 1996? Yeah.

1:15:08Jason Mantzoukas:Your name, your character name, and your question. My character name? I got the mic. Okay. My character name would be Blake Plissken, the Copperhead from Cleveland. Okay. You just took somebody else's idea.

1:15:28Blake Plissken, the Copperhead from Cleveland. Yeah. Let's keep moving forward. Let's not examine it too much. My question is, based on your expertise, which do you think Snake is best at? Hang gliding, surfing, or basketball? surfing. Surfing. Surfing. He was shot in the leg and he was just fucking cowabunging. He was definitely. He was like hanging loose, bro. He was absolutely hanging ten, my man.

1:15:54Jason Mantzoukas:He was shredding that gnar. Anybody who can have a casual conversation with Peter Fonder while surfing in a tsunami with a shot leg. Yeah. And remember when Steve Buscemi sees him? When they like make eye contact? Yeah. Whoa. Well the tsunami wave is at the same level as the highway which is perfectly broken for a tsunami wave to go by And they're like he's looking for him he's like my bro's surfing Yeah And there's like surf music like Dick Dale Yes there is Do you think when they were filming it the director was like okay now Sibushemi look to the camera as if you see them surfing the tsunami and you're surprised to see them bigger bigger let's do it again let me see those Buscemi eyes I cast you for those giant eyes let's see them pop those eyes Buscemi pop them and remember you're a weird vague agent a vagent a vagent the end of the movie is Kurt Russell looking down the barrel of the camera what the fuck was that he finds a pack of cigarettes, which are outlawed.

1:17:13No, no, they were cloves. I think it was a clove. No, they were American spirits. American spirits. Although they were brown. It looked like a clove. But I think it was probably like a natural cigarette. Well, it's 2000 and something. Is that what American spirits used to be or something? Like brown, weird, brown, gross cigarettes? Maybe. Like a package of cigarillos?

1:17:29Jason Mantzoukas:Well, there goes our sponsorship, Jason. I'm just kidding. Smoke them if you got them. Delicious, yum, yum tobacco. You like dirty brown cigarettes? He takes a drag. Want to look gross and European? Want to look like you work at a head shop? He looks down the barrel of the camera and is like, what does he say? This is the future America. Wake up. Yes, welcome to the human race. Doesn't make sense. Doesn't track with the whole movie. It is so weird. Also, Cliff Robertson also says at the end, he says this will be the final solution. Oh, yeah. He has a weird Nazi quote. That's what I'm telling you.

1:18:10Jason Mantzoukas:There is just a lot of half ideas thrown there. But like, welcome to the human race. This is what Kurt Russell added. I don't know if this is the only thing, but they're like, we can't crack this movie. It's been 10 years. We can't crack it. Kurt Russell's like, I got it. Welcome to the human race. And we'll work backwards from there. We know how it ends. So now we'll construct a movie that leads to that. So now the whole country will be in darkness. The whole world. The whole world. just at night. Right. Not terrible. That's okay. What has he fixed? I truly thought when he pressed that button, like, I thought the fucking world was going to explode.

1:18:50Yeah, me too. That would have been a better moment. It just leads to the pilot of the TV show, Revolution. Right? What was it called? Yeah. Right? Thank you. But that moment where he looks into the camera, I was like, this is just too much for me. That's when I looked at my dog and I was like, I don't usually watch movies like this Penny. That's when you were like, this is too much. This is, yeah, yeah. The last second. The last second, you're like, this is it. I can't do this one second more. I'm done. That Santa's been there the whole time, right? What's Santa? Apparently,

1:19:22Jason Mantzoukas:there was a TV series planned for Snake in the early 2000s, but it was turned down by every network for being too dark and too bleak. Well. By the way, that would probably work now. I was going to say, It might. It's not impossible, but. I don't think, yeah. And then it was the third movie, I'm sorry, was Escape from Earth. Oh. And then it was Escape from Mars. Oh, so it was going to be four movies. Yes. He's going to be, this guy's always fucking escaping. Right. He's like, can't I just get settled? I want to see just like a snake. Settling dog. Yeah. Just a cheers version of snakes. Snakes. Snake redoing a home in Encino, just comfortable.

1:20:10Jason Mantzoukas:Snake just becomes like the Wilson from Home Improvement. He's like next door. Hey, Snake, what do you think? Your son's becoming a man. He's going to challenge your authority. Happy wife, happy life. I did want to know one thing about Snake. I wanted to know what his damn life was like, other than that he was famous. Other than kicking ass and taking names. People thought he was tall, yeah. Well, obviously we have an opinion about this movie, There are people out there that have a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Cuervo Jones and me, we're gonna be breast bros. Utopia is the best name for this movie.

1:20:49Cause it totally fucking rules. Cuervo Jones. Second opinion.

1:20:56Jason Mantzoukas:Love it. And you snuck in. Give it up for Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim. Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim. Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. See, Blake, that's a good audience member. These are five-star reviews called from Amazon, and there are some great ones. There are so many good ones that I really had a hard time narrowing them down, and I was like, I'll do it before the show, but I didn't because they still were so good. All right, I'll start off with this one by Lorraine A. Wharton, written in 2013. What could be better than to watch and re-watch and watch again hunky Kurt Russell dressed in tight black leather?

1:21:50Jason Mantzoukas:This is a completely unbelievable, outrageous flick that takes you outside yourself and totally immerses you in that world. Great twist at the end. love this movie and I have watched it over 30 times. What on earth? Five stars. By the way, I'm Kate Hudson.

1:22:16Jason Mantzoukas:Oh my God. Here's another one that I really liked. This one is by James Ortega. I'm rating this movie five stars because I want everyone to see me in it. That's right. I'm in this movie. as the Chinese gangbanger who unloads the magazine of my Uzi on Kurt Russell. I remember. This guy is super talented. Great job. And does he like run into a Dick Tracy car afterwards? Well, he goes, of course I miss. I'm the kid in the front spraying the nine millimeter all over. Then I jump in a black car and take off into some ditch. I fucking remember this dude. Watch the movie and look for me. Five stars. that's great that's how you make it in Hollywood I would love it I'm gonna sign this guy I'm gonna be his manager I would love it if that review got him other work this one is just worth reading because it's the first time I've ever seen this in any review and this will be the last one to read Escape from L.A.

1:23:16Jason Mantzoukas:is a movie that will gain popularity as time goes on this movie is a good B-movie action and entertainment Snake plays by his own rules his loyalty is only as dependable as the leash to keep him on, and the second he's released, the simplest act totally knocks the power elite off the throne. Bottom line, this one has a better sense of the absurd and more biting humor with just as much action. I prefer it to the first addendum. Written three months later. Since writing this review, I have watched part of the original, and I can see why many fans prefer it.

1:24:00Oh, my God. That's so funny. That's so funny. Three months later. Three months later is so good.

1:24:12Jason Mantzoukas:Went back. And Renee done his five-star review. Three months later. JK, my bad. Actually. There you have it. Those are five-star reviews coming from Amazon. but anything else to talk about before we kind of get into the wrapping it up anything that we missed I'm sure there is but we did cover most of it 45 minutes are spent not even talking about the movie I did think the trailer that you played for us before yeah I thought the trailer that you played for us before was pretty dope the trailer is pretty great yeah the trailer is oh I love that fake out yeah that's a great fake out the trailer for the movie adds like this very it looks like you're at a movie theater and then it slowly becomes the world that Snake puts in.

1:25:02It's a bummer. This is a bad movie. But I will say unabashedly, John Carpenter is a fantastic filmmaker. And even though this is a bad movie and he's made plenty of bad movies, there's stuff like that. There's stuff in here that I'm like, ooh, I like John Carpenter. I like what's at play a lot of times even though it's terribly executed in this instance.

1:25:24Jason Mantzoukas:But I think, like, here's the thing that I feel about this movie that's weird, is it costs almost as much as Jurassic Park. Right, that's crazy. And I feel like, but ultimately, it's almost like a meta thing, because he's, like, saying, fuck you, blockbusters. Like, he almost is, like, going, like, I'll give you a blockbuster. I'll make the same fucking movie again. And it's not like, it's sort of like, it seems like, eh, fuck it. I'll do this. I feel like there's an energy of that to it. It doesn't seem like he's trying. Right. Definitely not trying. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I almost think if either of these were remade today, it could work.

1:26:00I think it's... I mean, yes. Escape from New York, I think. I will play Cuervo Jones. You don't have to ask me twice. I think it could work.

1:26:08Jason Mantzoukas:I own a beret. I think it's a cool idea, and I think that this one, especially, you know, as people talk about, oh, California should separate from the United States and all that sort of stuff, it's interesting. I think the power structure of it, the social world of it is really great. it just feels like it's all it feels like the first 15 days of shooting everyone was like yeah yeah yeah yeah and I was like how many more night shoots do we have? where's Kurt? he's still playing basketball we gotta get him in here to shoot some more when's that surfing scene? I'm ready for that surfing scene would you recommend people watching this movie purely for this purpose and we know how you feel if you're a dog owner don't watch it in front of your dog would I recommend this to anyone?

1:26:55Jason Mantzoukas:For this purpose. To watch a bad movie? Not just as like, you know, you wouldn't be like, yeah, you should see Moonlight and you should see Escape from Hell. Like, it wouldn't be like that. It would be like. Yeah. Um, no. Okay. No. Okay, great. I would maybe recommend the first one, but even then, not a lot. Yeah. All right. I would definitely recommend this. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's worth a watch. Definitely. 100 % yes. Yeah. And I agree. Watch them both back to back. You know, and if you haven't come by the end of the first one, you're going to come in the second one. Or in Snake Putzkin's eye socket.

1:27:34Jason Mantzoukas:Yep. Ooh, that moist socket. Ooh, socket. I agree. Socket to me. Guys, it's late. I enjoyed parts of it. I really do have a love-hate relationship with this movie because I think there's some things that are great and I think there's some things that are just really, really bad. All right, so that's that. Let's talk. Dan, you have a brand new special on CISO called Lion. Yes. And now, and people can follow you on Twitter, they can follow you on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At Dan Levy. Darcy. Paul. You are on a hugely successful, critically acclaimed new show right now. Talk to us about that. When is it on?

1:28:15Jason Mantzoukas:What's all the details? Okay, it's called The Good Place. It comes back January 5th. Where can people follow you? You know, Twitter and Instagram at Darcy Carden if you feel like you want to do that. Well, I think people would like to do that. Absolutely. I follow her. She's great. I follow her, too. I follow you guys. I follow her, like, around the neighborhood. Yeah, stop doing that. So Cuervo of you. Stop doing that. Ooh, I'm like, ooh, look at this hiney. You're throwing doves at her, and they're just not flying away. Jason, what would you like to plug here in January? Well, here's the thing.

1:28:46at the end of the show I'd like to apologize to Blake Plissken for not being funnier tonight even though I crushed hard. You can follow me nowhere. Do you want to apologize to the fucking woman that you yelled at? I want to apologize to Sleeping Lady although she has not slept since. She learned her lesson. So I think I did a pretty good job. Very awake. You can't follow me but you can follow us at HowDidThisGetMade on Twitter. Yes. And I think we're on Tinder now? We are on Tinder

1:29:17Jason Mantzoukas:and Grindr. I think we're on Tinder and Grindr. And the weird thing is we'll just show up and we'll go in a bathroom stall with you and just talk about bad movies. That's what he's doing. So Shaq plays Kazam.

1:29:34It's late and it's been out for a while, but I'm going to still promote it. Watch the Gilmore Girls, guys. Yay, Jason! You are in it. I mean, I might be in an episode of the Gilmore Girls, so don't worry about it. If you believe in it, guys, dreams can come true. Is that character here tonight? You mean Robert Castellanos? Esquire? He's not here. Yeah, those are my plugs.

1:30:02Jason Mantzoukas:All right, great. I can't think of any good plugs right now, but I will say thank you to everybody here at Largo for coming out. What a great audience. Amazing crowd. Sign up for our brand new mailing list. we'll announce our live shows with a little bit more notice and we'll be able to give you some info and scoop if you don't have Twitter or Facebook which seems to be a common complaint now. So I guess eventually we'll get down to making a zine. So I thought it was easy. Soon this podcast will be released only on cassette. And then that cassette will have to be retrieved by Snake Plissken. But Blake Plissken will be there trying to kill him.

1:30:40Jason Mantzoukas:And trying to kill you. Yes. Thank you guys for staying so late. A big thank you to Averill Halley who put together all these amazing clips and things I didn't even show you like the hand gliding machine gun or how the hand gliders in this movie look like the birds from Birdemic. A big thank you to Leanna Waldron. Nate Kiley does all of our research and found out all that information about Escape from New York. And everybody, thank you so much. Bye-bye.

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