Grizzly II: Revenge w/ Jake Johnson

8:17Jason Mantzoukas:Maybe just to fly to Budapest? He then got offered the part of Karate Kid.

8:21Jake Johnson:Oh, no.

8:23Paul Scheer:He was going to be Karate Kid. His dad, an old-school purist, said, all you've got is your word. So he passed on being the fucking Karate Kid. To be in this? I mean. And the story was almost like, I was mad at my dad for a long time. But that integrity. And I'm like, no, that's just bad dad advice. It was terrible advice.

8:48Jason Mantzoukas:For Grizzly 2? Terrible. For Grizzly 2. And now, talk about. No. It's not a movie. You pass. And so, you know, later on.

8:56Jake Johnson:Was the Charlie Sheen, Clooney, Laura Dern, was there supposed to be more? Or was this the sum total? They get murdered. Like all three of these future superstars are cast just to die in the old in the cold open.

9:11Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. So so so originally that scene was going to be later in the film. That's why about 20 minutes into the movie or so, we see the National Park staff discover the bodies of the three dead teenagers, because in the original cut of the movie, they had just been killed in the scene before. All right, so this is kind of weird, right? So it wasn't until years later that the film's remaining producer, Suzanne Nagy, re-edited the movie and then moved the Clooney, Dern, and Sheen scene to the beginning once they all became huge stars. Oh, now the screenwriter did say that the only reason that they were hired was because of nepotism.

9:50Jason Mantzoukas:And they thought that if they used these names, that would help the box office. Incredible. Who's Clooney connected to? Rosemary. Rosemary.

9:59Paul Scheer:Oh, right.

10:00Jason Mantzoukas:And I guess on a level of a movie like this, it was enough to give it, like, something, right? So they were gaming the system. That's fascinating. They said, yeah, their auditions are fine. But the reason why they were hired was to help, like, game the box office.

10:15Jake Johnson:That's so fascinating to me because it seemed so odd to me that before they were anywhere near stars, the three people who would become that maybe this is just truly an indictment of nepotism inside of this business. But the people who would become unequivocally the biggest stars out of this movie are the three who are like just cast aside in the cold open.

10:37Paul Scheer:I wouldn't call it nepotism, Jason. Did you see the other acting in this movie? This was some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. The main guy and the blonde lady when they were doing their scenes. I honestly felt like this can't be on planet Earth.

10:52Jason Mantzoukas:No, I mean, they're not real humans here. John Rhys-Davies, who I love, you know, obviously from Raiders of the Lost Ark, Sliders, I've been in a bunch of great stuff. He is doing something at a certain point. I'm like, should I be offended by what he's doing? Brashard. Brashard. He's a special character. Here, take a listen to John Rhys-Davies.

11:11Jake Johnson:They say that Grizzly was created by the great Manitou. But Grizzly grew to be so strong that even Manitou himself had to flee to escape him. In the beginning, bear walk on two legs like a man. In those days, he kill his prey with clubs and not with teeth and claws.

11:38Paul Scheer:You really believe that garbage, don't you?

11:41Jake Johnson:Grizzly is a beast from hell. If you do not know that now, you will someday.

11:48Jason Mantzoukas:He's an all-timer. When they established later on that, well, he actually was just a normal guy who went nuts and now thinks he's a Native American.

11:57Jake Johnson:After a bear killed his wife and daughters.

12:01Paul Scheer:It's a pretty awesome, I will say, pretty awesome storyline.

12:04Jake Johnson:I know, Jake, you texted me and said, you're going to go as Bouchard for Halloween. Bouchard?

12:09Paul Scheer:Just because I have every year since 2000.

12:11Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, Bouchard really is a great character. It's a special character. And I did think, I was like, did they retcon his backstory? Because John Rhys-Davies probably got to say, I'm doing this. And then they were all like, okay. There's a moment where the lead actor literally takes a knee. Because it's like, well, I can't compete with whatever John Rhys-Davies is doing. How about when he moves the tree?

12:33Paul Scheer:He moves the tree with his bare hands. Incredible. He's the strongest man on planet Earth.

12:37Jason Mantzoukas:I want to answer some of these questions. And I can also break down some things in the movie. Just so you guys, I have a clearer answer on some of this stuff. Okay. about this producer. So basically, he took the money from the film. He didn't even tell the other producer. Instead, he let that producer's husband tell her that he just ran off with the money. He was jailed later for other shady business. You don't have to say that part. We all assumed it. Got that. And now this movie was made in Budapest and the Hungarian government seized all the film equipment because they didn't pay their bills.

13:11Jason Mantzoukas:And as a result, they never got a chance to do post-production on it they even took the bears um and so yeah i love

13:19Paul Scheer:and you know what we were saying earlier we all got in the bloat business when we all got in this game the other business i wanted to get into is this business oh this i wanted to be in a movie in budapest and have they somebody come to my hotel room and go there is no movie and i go why and they go they confiscated the bears everything and the bears are gone thank you so much for the opportunity gentlemen this was a really fun 10 days i mean and by the way everything all the film is missing as well it should be this was the worst project i've ever been a part 45 days this movie

13:51Jason Mantzoukas:they started shooting in hungary months after ronald reagan declared the uh russia as an evil empire and they were shooting it on a military base and they were apparently surrounded by secret police the entire time of the shooting which is now i'm like is this an like an argo situation where they like was this like a chance to get in um and yes so this movie then toiled for many years uh and 87 our friends at canon film group who've made all the movies that we've talked about on this show they were like we're gonna we're gonna finish this up but then they had to ditch it when they went bankrupt so everything has kind of gone bad uh on this uh who is the group that just re

14:33Paul Scheer:So there's a group that came in recently and said with those three stars at the beginning, we could sell it to Netflix for at least$250 ,000.

14:43Jason Mantzoukas:Well, that's the Gravitas pictures. Gravitas are big in the indie game. They're the ones who. That's like a real production company. Yeah, they bought it. And I think that they were like, this is weird enough that it could be like a bird. I think this is me now adding my own thing to it. Like, it could be a birdemic. Like, well, we, they, they were able to re-edit it all together, put some bare footage back in, you know, they stitched it together just to kind of make sense, even though, I mean, night, day. The stitching is dog shit.

15:09Jake Johnson:Oh, the difference between the 80s, yeah, the 80s footage and the, they shoot a bunch of like modern stuff, like modern drone shots, modern, they shoot a bunch of a modern musical, music festival where people are wearing like tie-dye and all sorts of like modern logo shirts and stuff.

15:27Paul Scheer:Also, the nature footage at the beginning, I was like...

15:31Jake Johnson:It's so funny.

15:32Paul Scheer:It's so funny. It's so crisp. Yeah, but there's like, why not just make a weird 72-minute movie? During the concert, there was those two old guys in white jackets playing something. I was hard laughing, but then when it cuts to the karaoke footage of the modern band, something about it pissed me off.

15:51Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, well, I'll tell you this. Modern band, by the way, they're a band called The Days, and they're performing their song, The Planet. Now, here's the thing, all right? This was from a...

16:00Paul Scheer:Please tell me they're here today. I wish.

16:03Jake Johnson:Welcome to the stage. The Days.

16:06Jason Mantzoukas:Now, The Days, that track is from 2016, far away off from 1983. And on a comment on the YouTube video of their song, it says the footage was requested by a company, but they didn't know what it was going to be used for. So they unwillingly gave, like... They didn't know. They didn't know that that's how they were.

16:27Paul Scheer:I feel bad for this band. They signed a contract they didn't read. They're like 17 pages. And somebody says, how much? And they go, 500 bucks.

16:34Jason Mantzoukas:And they go, click sign. Done. Just take it. Do whatever you want.

16:37Paul Scheer:I didn't know I was going to be in Grizzly 2. It's a concert from 1983. We made it in 2016.

16:42Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, my gosh. It looked like time travelers.

16:45Jake Johnson:It is so confusing. I will say, if I had stumbled on this, it was so confusing to watch this patchwork. quilt of footage from different eras of uh of filmmaking so it is also visually like the visual storytelling is all over the place they're making cuts time jumps they're making cut the bear bullet

17:10Jason Mantzoukas:time and the bear doesn't move the bear cannot move the bears all by the way also burned up in a warehouse fire in hungary after the film was made i'll tell you another thing that really

17:20Paul Scheer:threw me off and had stuck with me is the the young daughter storyline yes she falls in love with the musician but there was no setup when did that happen all of a sudden she's doing a scene and he's like everything's just a laugh and she's like what am i and i'm like did i miss a 40 minute

17:39Jason Mantzoukas:arc a relationship came out of the blue but that scene is perfection i just want to listen to it for a second. What's wrong?

17:47Jake Johnson:Nothing, nothing at all. I just, I just wanted to say we've had such

17:53Paul Scheer:fun together and I like you a lot, but I'm nothing.

17:59Jake Johnson:I'm just a gypsy, a clown, a juggler. I go from town to town. I do my show and then I'm gone. It's all a game. A laugh, a joke. Am I a game, a laugh, and a joke? Yes. When did they fall in love such that he's now being a dictator? Who is he?

18:23Jason Mantzoukas:It seems to all take place in a day. And what I really love about that scene is that he touches his fedora, like Hamlet looking at the skull, you know? And it's funny. It's a funny actor's choice to look at that fedora, and the fedora represents...

18:39Jake Johnson:I bet his lines were written on the board.

18:44Jason Mantzoukas:Also, this politician who's involved here, she's like... You mean Nurse Ratched? Nurse Ratched. That was cool. She's like, I took this job because I'm 50 and no one offered me any work when I was 50.

18:56Jake Johnson:Did we also all notice an uncredited Tim Spall? No. British actor Tim Spall. Mike Lee favorite Tim Spall. Wow. Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movies. When Nurse Ratched comes up and says, we need to go over there. And he says, you can't come in here. and he's got his arm in a cast, it's like a very young Tim Spall. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Nobody allowed in here. I think you've made a mistake. This is Senator and Mrs. Thornton.

19:22Jason Mantzoukas:No matter who they are.

19:26Jake Johnson:What's your name?

19:27Jason Mantzoukas:Rob.

19:29Jake Johnson:Thank you.

19:30Jason Mantzoukas:Wow.

19:31Paul Scheer:That's cool.

19:32Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, there's so much in here that's also in the...

19:35Jake Johnson:Based on what we were just talking about, though, can we assume that the movie wants us to believe there was a love story between the daughter of the ranger and that pop star that we were just talking about who's on stage is it possible they shot scene are there more scenes for this movie

19:52Paul Scheer:that have not been included if there are more scenes and they chose not to put it in no everything is in this new footage no they're the biggest idiots in the game i i mean this is a movie that

20:03Jason Mantzoukas:is i i feel like it's inept in every way they did not like anything that they had they used

20:08Paul Scheer:They probably did shoot it. And when their film got stolen by the Hungarian government, it got lost. I bet. Or they cut it out. Or they cut it out. But also the scene then when that girl is with her dad, who I did not realize was her dad, the main guy with the beard. And all of a sudden, it's like it's shot kind of sexy by the Jeep. And I was like, oh, is she going to go after like the cool lead guy? Because I thought he was going to go after the blonde lady. And then all of a sudden she goes like. Hey, daddy. I'll make you proud. I'm a good little girl. I was like,

20:40Jake Johnson:what the fuck am I watching? They seem the same age. They seem like peers.

20:45Paul Scheer:This is terrible. Yeah. Right. You imagine being on that set with that director and being like, good. One more time. Say, I'm a very good girl. I was like, ew.

20:55Jason Mantzoukas:This is why I also feel like it's also the actors feeling like they could say whatever they want. It's like, we're going to improvise here. Like we'll, we'll have a little flirty thing. Cause probably in real life, they were a little bit close in age. Right? Because doesn't she say, like, you know, there's something about it where I feel like they don't know. Or, like, there was enough people there that no one was, like, there was no script supervisor that day.

21:16Paul Scheer:That's a really funny idea. Two actors who are improvising, and they don't realize their father and daughter is in. But the old guy's like, look at you, sweetheart. You look wonderful. And they're in a video of villages. It's a very sexual vibe. He says that thing.

21:33Jason Mantzoukas:He goes, do you go for daddy?

21:35Jake Johnson:You're a gopher.

21:36Paul Scheer:What?

21:36Jake Johnson:you go for this you go for that you go for your old man in a big way oh yeah we have a kiss

21:44Jason Mantzoukas:like do you go for dad or like what like that's a weird thing because she's gonna be a gopher you go for this you go for that you go for daddy i was like oh i felt weird never should you talk

21:54Paul Scheer:to your daughter like that he was like the actor was like look i'm the lead of this movie would you like to get dinner i'd love to talk to you about the business when we go back to hollywood

22:07Jason Mantzoukas:now i understand that obviously we need to have our bears out there killing people but this is a movie that takes place in a state park and it feels like they've never had a bear problem ever right like they have no infrastructure to deal with this grizzly but yet also this grizzly is not just a grizzly that's out for killing it's a giant grizzly that has never been it's like it's a Godzilla of Grizzlies. It's a psycho Grizzly.

22:33Jake Johnson:It's 20 feet tall? Yes. I mean, they keep saying they're finding claw marks 18 feet up in trees. And when they try and give you perspective when the bear finally gets to the festival, some people yes, appear as though they're looking at a kaiju, and some people are like oh, there's a bear over there.

22:53Jason Mantzoukas:My favorite part is when the bear kills like, there's a couple things that we're following. We're following the bear people trying to solve the bear problem we're following the concert people we're and then we're also following the poachers well this is what i was talking about this drug dealer well the drug dealer from jamaica who's got great weed from hawaii i got that oh how about the guy who was

23:17Paul Scheer:running it with the cool glasses oh i love that guy that guy had a great you know that kind of reminded me of you know i just i was playing cards last night and i heard and i can't believe i heard this for the first time i'm sure you guys know this but do you know about joni mitchell's uh

23:33Jake Johnson:blackface era oh yeah you do no i do jason can you tell paul about it because i just heard about

23:40Jason Mantzoukas:it yesterday i mean not my mind's blown wow wow jason is wearing a joni mitchell shirt as incredible

23:48Jake Johnson:timing they have they have in modern times changed the um the jacket the cover art for don juan's Reckless Daughter because it featured a picture. So Joni, for a period of time, would do a blackface character. And she'd go to parties at it.

24:07Jason Mantzoukas:I'm looking at it right now. Oh, Lord. Oh, yes, Paul. This is a real thing. Whatever you are imagining, you will be more shocked when you see it. It looks like she's out of a black exploitation film. Like, I mean, this is like a character that might have been in Dolomite the way that the way that I'm looking at it right here. Wow.

24:26Paul Scheer:Joni Mitchell. She was doing this at parties in Laurel, Kansas, and everybody was like, wow.

24:32Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, and by the way, and I want to call out because you said it like, yeah, she's in blackface, but she's also in drag. She's a black man.

24:38Jake Johnson:She is a man.

24:40Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, you're right. Oh, my Lord. All right. Now, I will say just to kind of lift up my theory that the lead actor was trying to get some flirting in. This is a quote that the nurse ratchet said, Louise Fretcher, she said that when she met with the director, Andre Sotz, he said, did you read the script? And she said, yes, of course I read the script. And he goes, movie, we make nothing to do with script. Crazy to hear from a director and then say yes. I love that the director was like, no, no, no, and we won't use that. So we get the idea that this movie is kind of loose and letting everybody go, you know, wherever they want to go here.

25:22Jason Mantzoukas:but i will say that it causes a lot of weird problems because at one point when they're having a meeting about the concert there's a line where a character says we're gonna have 80 to 100 000 people here and then i was like okay oh i was sorry i was like now i'm saying it out loud now it makes sense i was thinking 80 like 80 to 100 000 now i see it i was about to i was like you

25:45Paul Scheer:know what i think we all saw that happen to you in real time yeah i was like wait a minute i was

25:49Jason Mantzoukas:like what's so bad about that and i was like oh i just saw that adds up yeah in my mind i was like how could you have less than 100 or more than 100 000 you really don't know how well your tickets

26:01Jake Johnson:are selling if that's where you're at well and by the way i think we're projecting anywhere between

26:04Paul Scheer:80 people and 100 000 the staff like how many security people do we hire like i honestly don't know how many drinks do we have at concessions i mean that's why that's why i thought that they

26:15Jason Mantzoukas:were so confused like yeah we don't have enough security guards for this event we only thought

26:19Paul Scheer:about 55 people here we either have so much security or so little we hired 1500 people

26:26Jason Mantzoukas:i also like that bears like have this this is a very jaws 4 kind of territory like jaws 4 he's

26:34Jake Johnson:hunting down the family that killed well wasn't that also called the revenge it was jason jaws

26:42Jason Mantzoukas:for the revenge yes with michael kane uh and yes so this this is a bear that is just mad and it seems like the bear is so specific about enacting revenge but not on the people that created the situation like the first kill are just three innocent kids who were not the poachers and then he seems to kill only innocent people like there's no like i mean the poachers i guess finally get it

27:09Paul Scheer:I love speaking of the poachers. Yeah. They were fun.

27:12Jason Mantzoukas:I like those poachers.

27:13Jake Johnson:I wish we'd been with them more. The part where the guy is talking about how they're going to split the money when they sell the Bears gallbladder. And he's just inexplicably holding a rabbit around the neck in shot like this. He's like, it split a hundred thousand. I'm not good with numbers, but four times four is 25. But times two is 50. And then there's no. And then suddenly the poachers are shooting each other.

27:39Jason Mantzoukas:Well, by the way, that scene about the gallbladder money, what I loved about that was like, they come in like, hey, Luke, your brother's dead. Anyway, I think we go kill that bear and then we go get his gallbladder. And he's like, they just run over that your brother was killed by a bear.

27:53Jake Johnson:And he's like, my brother's dead.

27:55Paul Scheer:And they're like, yeah, man, get out. We got this. That's how we should all start treating it. Let's just start living like we're in Grizzly 2. We got to become poachers. Everybody does. wasn't there a scene i'm i was at that point of the movie i was getting mad at it but where they all like start wrestling or dancing or they wake up what was that moment where i was like they were just such like clown performers where they were just letting oh wait that's where they're drinking oh yeah they're just letting everybody know that they're trained actors yeah and they're like they're

28:29Jake Johnson:grabbing each other's butts and dancing around i was like clearly four men and you see this a lot

28:34Paul Scheer:with actors where it's four men in their 50s where all of a sudden they were like man this takes me back now we get to act and you're like what is this movement you're a poacher no now they yeah

28:45Jake Johnson:they're like they're now they were actors i do feel like america is currently in its poacher era like the country definitely feels like we're consumed by poacher the poacher mentality it's

28:57Paul Scheer:all of a sudden really cool to like murder a lion and stand by it yeah there was an era we all admitted like that sucks and now we're like that's pretty cool man it's a pretty big ass lion you murdered for no reason now in this world getting infected with the poacher mind virus

29:11Jason Mantzoukas:but here's the thing these poachers don't even care that they would be killing a big bear they're like we just gotta get this gallbladder back to san francisco like that's it like they they're they're they're not even like it would be a great kill yeah i love it too i always love that the

29:27Jake Johnson:Poachers are always after the thing that is reported to be an aphrodisiac.

29:33Paul Scheer:Yeah. Like, that's it. All they want is money and sex.

29:36Jake Johnson:Yes. All they want is the money and the boners. That's it. That's what we got.

29:40Paul Scheer:A thumbs up appeared on Paul's screen when you said money and boners. That might have. But you didn't do anything different.

29:47Jason Mantzoukas:I wish it was not. Maybe it was me just giving the thumbs up.

29:50Paul Scheer:No, it was. I literally think you were thinking such a positive thing that your computer heard your

29:56Jake Johnson:thoughts and popped a thumbs up you have the you have the neural link set up right you are the

30:01Jason Mantzoukas:first it came with my tesla it was not a big deal uh i was in and out in the same day it was great

30:08Paul Scheer:speaking of boners yes uh how about the george clooney laura dern opening incredible oh yeah all of a sudden i was like he's really slopping kisses on yeah and she does that weird european dance when she takes her clothes off i was like this is a wild and then chuck sheen looking hot is like hiding up in the woods i was like yeah what's happening here it's like these three people

30:32Jason Mantzoukas:are gonna go camping and with the like implicit knowledge like and then when we fuck you got to go away from us like just go like around the corner yeah i also want to just highlight for everybody

30:41Jake Johnson:because i don't know if you all noticed but they say that they hiked they hiked 20 miles yeah and And Laura Dern is wearing a strappy wedge-heeled sandal. She's wearing a two-inch wedge-heeled sandal.

30:57Paul Scheer:And nobody's sweating. No one's sweating.

31:00Jason Mantzoukas:They look great. They look great.

31:01Paul Scheer:I will say, movies used to do a thing that I thought was going to be adulthood, and it's not. And that is, if you go out with a couple, they're going to fuck so soon, and you're just expected to run up a hill. That's never happened to me. And they're going to—

31:15Jake Johnson:Here's the thing. They're going to start while you're there. Yes. They're going to start while you're there. And it's incumbent on you to know, hey, I got to make myself scarce.

31:24Paul Scheer:If I don't get out of here, I'm just watching my friends have intercourse. And then I'm the bad guy? Yeah. Hold on. I'm not a pervert. I'm the creep. I'm in my sleeping bag watching you guys. Where else am I going to look? You woke me up. And by the way, of course I'm touching myself. You're having sex right near me. I'm not watching you and masturbating. I was masturbating and I see you.

31:47Jason Mantzoukas:It was in the middle of their conversation, too. It wasn't like, hey, we're turning out for the night. It was like, hey, yeah, I saw that movie. That was kind of good. All right. We're now we're fucking. It's like they start going at it.

31:58Jake Johnson:There was also the intimation. It also felt like they were intimating that Charlie Sheen was in love with Laura Dern, but that she was with Clooney. Right. Like, I felt like they were setting that up. So much more here.

32:11Paul Scheer:Or Charlie was just adding a layer for us.

32:14Jake Johnson:Maybe you're right. But I was trying to be like, okay, so this is going to be a movie about these three. And then I was like, oh, wait, all three die immediately in the same scene? This is crazy.

32:25Paul Scheer:You know, that's a bit, though, that people have been trying to do. They probably have at this point. But there was a period for every big action comedy movie. It was try to get the biggest star you can and have them die in the first scene. Oh, yeah. They actually do it in this. It's the other guys. And I will tell you, it's the other guys. Yeah, that's exactly right. The other guys did it. But you're like, it's a funny idea. What's disappointing in it is that you're like, I would love to see those three in this movie as opposed to having to watch these other guys.

32:52Jason Mantzoukas:You've pulled the rug out from under us now because now we have to not be with these people.

32:58Paul Scheer:I want to see a young Charlie Sheen and George and Laura Dern deal with a grizzly more than I want to see that weird pervert with the beard hitting on his daughter.

33:06Jason Mantzoukas:I also, here's the other thing. You know, you were upset that Charlie Sheen didn't go do Karate Kid. I kind of think he would have been too cool to be Karate Kid. Like, Charlie Sheen, great actor, especially in that time. But I don't know if he's got the... Like, I don't feel like, you know, William Zabka could be beating up Charlie Sheen. I feel like Charlie Sheen would just, like, lay him out. One, two, three.

33:25Paul Scheer:How about a young Charlie Sheen? You know Charlie Sheen post-Major League and post-Platoon?

33:33Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, right.

33:33Paul Scheer:But we just grew up on that guy. But the other guy was Emilio's little goofball brother. okay Emilio was the hunk Charlie was Carlos Esteban which is a statement you never think you're gonna say Emilio was the hunk but by the way Emilio at that era oh my god he's the guy and then his little brother Carlos get out of here dude you're not even that good of an actor

33:56Jason Mantzoukas:I I love what Emilio does I I love when like when Andrew McCarthy comes to Emilio's house in that documentary he did about the Brat Pack like I I like Emilio a lot like he's just over it like not into this guy and you could see amelio getting like low-key pissed off at him like all right man get the fuck out of my house now like oh this documentary is great it's basically andrew mccarthy um not getting over that there was one article that called him the brat pack and everyone else is over it like to the point where like except for him and he's like trying to get people to be like aren't you upset about this like no no and like it goes so far to years ago man like rob lowe literally is like are you kidding me it's the best fucking time of my life amazing it was great like everyone's like no it was fine it was fine he's like no it labeled us it was bad we were wronged yeah and he just can't get anyone on his side world cares but

34:46Jake Johnson:just holding on to a a grudge or a aggrievement in a way that is just not even remotely acceptable at this what i will say even though i agree he's insane imagine being in that group where you guys

35:02Paul Scheer:think you're the next thing oh yeah and you're like we finally done it you're everybody's young and cool you're doing good stuff and you're like they got the rat pack then you got the jack nicholson crew you got the pacinos and the neros who are we and you the brat pack no we're doing

35:19Jake Johnson:good movies didn't they wasn't there a an attempt to label the vince vaughn jack black generation is the frat pack yes remember that after old school vibe that's it that's i think what it was

35:32Jason Mantzoukas:maybe yeah and it seems like i mean everything i've read from that time the brat pack it's like this this writer had a little bit of an edge he's like fuck these people like because they're out partying and they're being cool like and there's a little bit of a you know mean it was mean but it was uh but if you're right they were doing good movies or at least movies were awesome yeah they

35:50Jake Johnson:were great movies the great actors also also what a way to elevate a dumb article yes yeah which is to become obsessed with yes to become obsessed imagine like one piece of writing imagine like

36:02Paul Scheer:tim chalamet austin butler whoever else are these like you know jeremy allen white all this like great group and you're like guys this whole group together put them in a cover and call them like the new geek squad yeah no these guys aren't the geek squad you're like the geeks are the finally running Hollywood. Yeah, Austin Buller on a motorcycle being like the geeky James Dean. You're like, uh, straight from bike riders. You just, you could kill him ever. And then everybody called him the geek squad. It would be,

36:35Jason Mantzoukas:it would, we should get that going now. We should just, we should be like, yeah,

36:41Jake Johnson:we should encourage people. We should tell everybody that all of those young Hollywood hot actors are the geeks. Oh, you just refer to themselves as.

36:48Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, the new Superman movie has got a couple of those Geek Squad guys in it. Oh, yeah.

36:52Paul Scheer:The lead guy's in the Geek Squad, and then the woman from Maisel's, she's a Geek Squad. She's kind of Geek Squad. I feel like Nick Holt is British Geek Squad. You know what we could actually do? How Yop music is... Yeah. It's very clear who's Yop music and who's not. We could actually create real rules and rules in the Geek Squad. Because I will say, the woman from Maisel is not Geek Squad. but I do think the lead Superman is Geek Squad.

37:18Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, well, Geek is like, I think, well, definitely Nicholas Holt is Geek Squad, according to us.

37:22Jake Johnson:Nicholas Holt is pretty close to Geek Squad. Austin Butler is Geek Squad. He's prime Geek Squad.

37:27Jason Mantzoukas:And I think that this is like, all we have to do is stay with confidence

37:30Jake Johnson:and then people will start to adopt it. Now, here's the question. How soon are we going to get a cease and desist from Best Buy?

37:38Paul Scheer:We're spelling squad differently. Okay, good. Who is the Mount Rushmore of Geek Squad?

37:45Jason Mantzoukas:All right, so... Timmy Chalamet. Yeah, Tim C.

37:47Paul Scheer:Austin Butler.

37:48Jason Mantzoukas:I think Jeremy Allen White.

37:50Paul Scheer:Jeremy Allen White. Jeremy Allen White. Like, I'm trying to think of who else is like that. Is there a lady in the Geek Squad? Or is it very much a... I mean, Margot Robbie's not in the... Is Tom Holland Geek Squad? Oh, Zendaya? No, because he was before them. No. No, yeah, she's...

38:04Jason Mantzoukas:I don't think so, yeah.

38:05Paul Scheer:They start a little bit younger. They got their own thing.

38:07Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, Jacob Elordi should be in the Geek Squad.

38:09Jake Johnson:Yes, Elordi is Geek Squad.

38:11Paul Scheer:Elordi is Geek Squad.

38:13Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah.

38:14Paul Scheer:he's total geek squad and he's great oh i'm assuming somebody is going to photoshop all of these actors wearing uh geek squad polos oh my god but those guys as the pillars of geek squad

38:28Jake Johnson:is awesome and guess anybody who's been rocking a tiny mustache lately geek squad i love geek squad

38:34Jason Mantzoukas:geek squad and all we need to do is just get a couple like send a little article into deadline Send a blind submission into Dumois and be like, saw some Geek Squaders out there on the street.

38:47Paul Scheer:Wait, Squad, S-Q-W-A-D. Squad.

38:52Jason Mantzoukas:S-Q, that is, oh. Geek Squad. That's funny.

38:56Paul Scheer:Here's what I'll say, and I know we're having fun.

38:58Jason Mantzoukas:Is Sydney Sydney Geek Squad, or is she too early for Geek Squad?

39:01Paul Scheer:She actually might be. Oh, you know who else is? It's Glenn Powell.

39:05Jake Johnson:Glenn Powell, but he's a little bit older, right? He's been, to me, he predates Geek Squad.

39:10Paul Scheer:But he and her in that romantic movie they did might have been the birth of Geek Squad. That's a Geek Squad rom-com for sure. But that is like the beginning of like, there's a movement here. These guys made$100 million doing this movie. I think this was the birth of Geek Squad.

39:27Jake Johnson:Here's what I want to be very clear to say. I want to be in Geek Squad.

39:31Jason Mantzoukas:We all want to be in Geek Squad. I don't know if you can. You're too old to be in Geek Squad, Jason.

39:36Jake Johnson:I want to be in Geek Squad so bad. I'll shave a mustache.

39:40Paul Scheer:You're so old.

39:41Jason Mantzoukas:Can't be in Geek Squad. Are you kidding?

39:44Paul Scheer:I'm Geek Squad dad age. Here's what you could do in Geek Squad. You could play a guy who works at a store when the Geek Squad comes in as a cool scene, and you could go like, excuse me, you forgot to pay.

39:56Jason Mantzoukas:Now, here's the thing. The reason why they're in Geek Squad is because they bought a hangout place. They bought an old Best Buy, and that's where they can actually party and be away from people. Oh, like the Blues Brothers guy.

40:06Paul Scheer:Yes, yeah.

40:07Jason Mantzoukas:This is their own club. And guess what?

40:09Paul Scheer:Because now New York and L.A. sucks. So they actually got it in like near Omaha.

40:16Jason Mantzoukas:It's out in New Mexico.

40:18Paul Scheer:It's like a mid-sized city in America. It's the best.

40:20Jason Mantzoukas:All right. So here's I'm just going to give you a couple of people. Just tell me yes or no. Are they Geek Squad? Margaret Qualley. Geek Squad? Geek Squad. Yeah, she feels Geek Squad. Actually, she's pretty Geek Squad. Yeah, she's very Geek Squad. I would say and then I mean and then I would go on the fence with like Haley Steinfeld. I mean, she's been around for a while. No, no way. She's okay. All right. And then Florence Pugh? No. Okay. I agree with, by the way, I agree with, but this is the one that I'm the most. Who are we? Who are we to judge?

40:50Paul Scheer:You know who we are, Jason? We're fans of the Geek Squad. Yes.

40:53Jason Mantzoukas:Yes.

40:54Paul Scheer:Just like I'm a fan of the Brat Pack.

40:56Jason Mantzoukas:Big time. Jenna Ortega. Geek Squad. Geek Squad. Big time is right. Now, I'm looking through some names here. I we had an Anna Taylor joy but I don't know if she's geek squad I don't know I don't think she's

41:09Paul Scheer:geek squad I don't feel like she's geek squad we gotta make something very clear about geek squad and this is I think what you were saying Jason with the we want to be in the movie this isn't an insult no no this is a movement of people so to say the frat pack guess those guys were frat pack yeah vince vaughn jack black owen wilson they seemed like the funniest guys in a frat will ferrell yes that you were like yeah they probably didn't like that they're like we don't know we're serious actors who are comedic actors but i was like i don't know when you guys all get together it just feels like you're laughing at those funny older guys that you go i'm not in your frat but you guys are so funny yeah geek squad fixes all the technology yeah this is a

41:53Jason Mantzoukas:good thing now there were other ones the brit pack the brit pack was gary oldman tim roth colin furth uh daniel day lewis then there was uh the rat pack revival well i guess that's this them older i'm looking at some websites here that this feels like ai created those two uh this the it girl boom i don't know if that's a thing i tried to create that i guess really brit pack brit pack and fat and frat pack is in here it's uh you're gonna say fat pack i was like that's that's mean

42:21Paul Scheer:spirited they're like oh man my movie in alaska i got put in the fat pack i do like geek squad geek squad feels god's great yeah uh but but i'll tell you what's positive about geek squad because for older people when you buy technology and you get your first big flat screen you're putting on a wall and you go i don't know how to hang it and get all these different things in there when the geek squad shows up you think this is the wrong name for what you do because it's a hell of a service you're very good at it it's very efficient and you fixed my house they are

42:57Jason Mantzoukas:the here's what i squad this is what i see they're the bridge from the old to new because look you know what my mom may not be interested in going to the movies every week but she knows timothy

43:06Paul Scheer:chalamet yeah he bridges he bridges like about timmy uh timmy c when he wins that award he gets

43:12Jason Mantzoukas:up there and goes i want to be one of the greats yeah yeah great i want to be in the original rap

43:16Paul Scheer:pack that's why i got my geek squad that guy jacob is hot as hell he's doing cool movies sydney sweeney's a monster yeah yeah you're like you guys are killing it this is a group

43:26Jake Johnson:the geek squad is coming in the next generation by the way all they lack all they lack is a moniker

43:32Jason Mantzoukas:we're speaking about this as if they all listen to the podcast and are like we're so mad right now they're so like here's but here's what i will say man and here's what the new era which we all know

43:44Paul Scheer:has changed and it's way more about technology so now who are like you know this movie i just did the dink we were talking about yeah what's the release of it apple bought it okay cool so what does that mean who knows you know what the geek squad does fixes your technology yeah they make technology cool where i go when i hear this stuff as an old-timer i go like well what's the theatrical release so many right and they go like hey geezer call the geek squad hey jake your movie is coming

44:10Jason Mantzoukas:out on tiktok in 90 second intervals it's gonna have a 22 week release i'll never do it you get

44:16Paul Scheer:one guy in the geek squad all of a sudden i'm going i would love to be in i'd love to be the

44:20Jason Mantzoukas:waiter in the restaurant of your 90 second can i tell you leonardo dicaprio is in tiktoks now with the young girl from uh one battle after the other like he's trying to get a little bit of that taste because she's trying to get i mean she's trying to get in that geek squad i'm sure i think

44:36Jake Johnson:this is i think one of the demarcating lines for the geek squad is they are a generation of digital native actors yes they are and they get it they get they get it and they grew up with it but you

44:50Paul Scheer:know you got to also say about the geek squad and this is you can't get a job at best by any geek

44:56Jason Mantzoukas:squad unless you're one of the best at it yeah well let's not let's not loft the geek squad up that high i feel like it wasn't that paul i'm gonna and i'll tell you they're the greatest actors of our generation oh no they're the greatest actors i'm just saying we're putting a lot of we're putting a lot of weight on the the job interview process for the geek squad how about this imagine

45:16Paul Scheer:if you have a new stereo you try to get it set yeah yeah sure sure pay the 85 bucks some guy shows up he's from the geek squad and he goes don't know right what they know everything better know dude and guess what i've had him here a lot they always know i like the geek now they might have to come back two or three times sure but they don't have all the stuff in the truck and guess what they don't charge each time no because they they they will come they will get it yeah they get

45:41Jason Mantzoukas:it it's a compliment to be in the geek squad i like the geek squad um now i will say if you're ever in if you're ever in the outskirts of new mexico stop by yeah just hang out you maybe see him walking in and out of that best buy uh you see uh chalamet bring it they bring their own like chairs in there and stuff they're cool uh this movie grizzly too uh you know gives a shit we're talking about geek squad i just need to figure out who else is geek squad

46:12Jake Johnson:here's my question did you guys feel like that the bear in this movie would have better would have been better if they had cast instead maybe one of the uh bears from country bears jamboree like one of the big animatronics maybe liver lips mcgrowl or teddy barra you know big al the bears

46:33Jason Mantzoukas:from country bear jamboree more emotive i love that you ended on big al the most notable big uh bear from Country Bear Jamboree.

46:41Jake Johnson:I'm just going in order.

46:42Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. I will say this. There's a, I mean, many famous stories about why jaws work, right? The, the shark didn't work. There's a play, the shark's still not working. There's books about how the shark didn't work. And what did Spielberg do? He took that and used it to create something that was full of drama and tension. It feels like in movies like this, they're like, yeah, the bear doesn't look real. I'll shoot it anyway. Like no one ever has learned from the lesson. It's like, oh yeah, well, what he did was not shoot the shark. Yeah. And made a movie without it until the very end. And then it's great.

47:12Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah.

47:12Jake Johnson:The crazy thing is the bear clearly could not move. So it was just a matter of putting the bear in the foreground or the background of shots and having the, whatever it is. So it'd be like the concert and the bear would be super close to lens. And you could see the concert fuzzy in the background. And you're like, Oh, the, I guess the bear has gotten to the concert again, a hundred thousand people at a concert, one big or 80.

47:37Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah.

47:37Jake Johnson:For 80. 80 people, a big grizzly bear is a threat. At 100 ,000 people. You're fine.

47:43Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, they're protected. They're protected because they're in a grouping of, it's not like they're all across the park. Well, the concert doesn't stop. No, of course not.

47:50Jake Johnson:The concert isn't interrupted by the bear or the pyrotechnics. You got a band from the future playing.

47:55Paul Scheer:There's a band from 2016 doing a 2016 banger. The show's going to go on.

47:59Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, first of all, this bear is so big that John Rhys-Davies, who is a bigger man, was able to jump on it like a telephone pole. He's also the strongest man ever. He's a strong man. Bouchard? Bouchard getting that human scent.

48:13Jake Johnson:Bouchard, he's got the, what is it, the lasso made of bear?

48:17Paul Scheer:He and Steven Seagal, and I don't know who invented this look, but there was a style in the 80s that some bigger, thicker white guys invented where it was just taking a few cultures, throwing on an accent where I don't know where it was from, maybe doing a high pony, maybe having a thin beard. And it was just culturally...

48:41Jake Johnson:So you're just describing Seagal.

48:43Paul Scheer:Yeah.

48:44Jake Johnson:And maybe the beard is heavily dyed. And maybe... Maybe he also plays blues guitar.

48:51Paul Scheer:Maybe he does a Cajun accent. Maybe he became a sheriff. Oh, my God.

48:56Jason Mantzoukas:Maybe he released an energy drink as well. And maybe he became friends with Putin.

49:01Paul Scheer:He has Russian citizenship now. One quick question, and then I will drop this. Because I can tell from the tone of you two it's time to move on. Oh, it's never time. And I'm sure your audience is ready to do that. No worries. Are we going back to the Geek Squad? But I just need to finish with Geek Squad. Please. And look, I do it on my own podcast all the time. It's over. Everybody's bored of it. But if we were to recast this movie with Geek Squad. Okay, this is a question. Love it. Who's playing who? All right. Now, let's not start with Charlie Sheen, those guys.

49:33Jason Mantzoukas:No, no.

49:33Paul Scheer:We have to go... Have the three of them play themselves in this movie as old guys.

49:36Jason Mantzoukas:Who's Bouchard? Who is Bouchard? You want to start with Bouchard?

49:39Paul Scheer:It's a big character.

49:40Jake Johnson:Elordi. Elordi only because he's big. He's a big... Elordi is like 6 '2 or 6 '3.

49:46Jason Mantzoukas:I was only starting with Bouchard because it's the only character I know by name.

49:48Paul Scheer:Okay, how about the main guy with the beard? Who's your true protagonist?

49:53Jason Mantzoukas:That's Jeremy Allen White. You're totally right. Yeah, that feels right.

49:57Paul Scheer:Who is the blonde woman who cares about conservation? The bear scientist. Sidney Sweeney.

50:02Jason Mantzoukas:The bear scientist. Yeah, Sidney Sweeney. Yeah, that's Sidney Sweeney. Or I could see that also being played with a Jenna Ortega kind of a lilt, too. I could, too.

50:08Paul Scheer:Sure, sure, sure. In your dream world, who would you cast?

50:11Jake Johnson:Well, no, I think what you do is you cast Jenna Ortega as Jeremy Allen White's daughter. That's the play.

50:20Jason Mantzoukas:And that's the weirdness of the age. Because it's the same setup as this movie. Do you go for daddy? They're essentially the same age. Okay, great. I like that.

50:29Paul Scheer:Then you've got Jacob as Brouchard.

50:31Jake Johnson:I think so. I mean, there aren't any like, there aren't any big geek squads.

50:38Paul Scheer:Well, because you gotta get behind the TV at times. I know.

50:41Jake Johnson:We need like a big, who's the big birdie? You need a guy to bring in this stuff.

50:45Paul Scheer:The delivery guy in Geek Squad.

50:47Jason Mantzoukas:I'm also thinking like, who's our deliverance crew? Like, these are our actor-actors. I may pull a Lordy into the deliverance crew, like Holt, a Lordy. Like it's, it's these, uh, you know, these guys are going a little bit, maybe I'm trying to think of another one in that world that could be going real deep. In the poachers.

51:06Paul Scheer:Timmy C can get deep in the poacher. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He would be great.

51:09Jason Mantzoukas:There you go. That's a good poacher crew.

51:14Paul Scheer:All right. I feel pretty good about it. I feel pretty good. I'm happy with it.

51:16Jason Mantzoukas:I like it. And you know, and maybe what I do is. I could also see Sidney Sweeney as a lady poacher.

51:21Paul Scheer:I was about to say, and I didn't want to say it, I think there would be a female poacher now, and there would be no comments about the fact that there was a female poacher.

51:29Jason Mantzoukas:Well, Jake, I was going to say this. I want to move off my original casting and pitch you both. You know, I don't know if you are familiar, but Sydney Sweeney is now in this boxing movie. I'm like, maybe she's Bouchard.

51:41Paul Scheer:Whoa. I love it. I don't like it. I don't like it. Now, I hear why it's a good pitch. Right, okay. But I feel like it's going to be a big thing that Hollywood's going to like. We're going to be excited about it. And no one in the world is going to like it.

51:56Jason Mantzoukas:They don't want to see her like jumping on a bear.

52:00Paul Scheer:You get Sydney Swinney, one of the greatest looking actresses of the game. You got her in a black weird wig and a beard. And she's heavy.

52:10Jason Mantzoukas:She's going to Joni Mitchell it. She's going to play a man.

52:15Paul Scheer:Hey, Bruchard doesn't change.

52:16Jason Mantzoukas:you gotta wear the same clothes oh wow i was reimagining bouchard okay oh okay okay all right all right now now we're on the same page i want to see jake oh you want to see clothes yeah all

52:29Jake Johnson:right then back full back to the original stolen valor full cultural appropriation he's the only

52:34Paul Scheer:character i want it word perfect i everybody else you can rethink his stuff accent perfect too it's

52:39Jason Mantzoukas:gotta hit that um i will say this if i was also casting i don't know if she's fully in geek squad but I don't know if you remember, but there is a French maid waitress that is serving people during the concert. There's like, oh, there's a moment where they cut away to like a server, like just delivering drinks on a table where like the summit captain is like, and she's just dressed like from like a murder mystery, like that kind of maids outfit. And I was like, that could be Sabrina Carpenter. I think she could do a fun part in there. Oh yeah, that's interesting. She's Geek Squad.

53:10Jake Johnson:I think Sabrina Carpenter's Geek Squad.

53:12Jason Mantzoukas:Well, she's a musician. I don't know if we put musicians in.

53:14Paul Scheer:I wouldn't put her or Olivia Rodrigo in there.

53:17Jake Johnson:I'm speaking generationally. They seem like they are Geek Squad adjacent. They might be adjacent, but I'm not putting those pop jokes in.

53:24Paul Scheer:I'm fine with it.

53:26Jake Johnson:I'm not going to go to war on it.

53:27Paul Scheer:But I hear exactly what you're saying.

53:30Jason Mantzoukas:No, I mean, it's right, but it's also wrong. But here's the thing. To be clear, Taylor Swift, not Geek Squad. No, but hangs with Geek Squad, but is above Geek Squad. Of course, because she respects.

53:38Paul Scheer:Look, is Jennifer Lawrence like the godmother of Geek Squad?

53:41Jason Mantzoukas:That's what I was thinking. Like, well, that's what I, like, I feel like that's a little.

53:44Paul Scheer:She's not Geek Squad, but without, if you don't, there's no Geek Squad without Jennifer Lawrence.

53:47Jason Mantzoukas:I agree. I agree. Like, you want that, like, you, and you want those people, like, you know, Tom Cruise famously not in the Brat Pack.

53:55Paul Scheer:But if there's no Tommy Cruise, there's no Brat Pack.

53:57Jason Mantzoukas:Exactly.

53:58Paul Scheer:If there's no Jennifer Lawrence, you would never have Geek Squad. But when she broke on the scene, you're like, she's a great actress. She's great looking. She also could, she kind of could be in Geek Squad, though, too, I think.

54:09Jason Mantzoukas:She's the original Geek Squad before there was enough Geek Squad to fill it in. I don't think she's Geek Squad. You don't?

54:15Jake Johnson:I think she paved the way for Geek Squad to exist. Yeah, she walked so Geek Squad could run.

54:21Paul Scheer:But you're right that she is a little bit different because she's also connected to the older generation. So she's a little bit old school.

54:28Jake Johnson:I would put her more in the Haley Steinfeld. I totally agree with what I mean.

54:32Paul Scheer:They're in another group. But also Haley walked so they could run. And where is Zendaya? Zendaya. There appears that way. Shailene Woodley as well. Zendaya and Tom Holland are in whatever that group is. They just don't have a title.

54:44Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. Got it. But they have their own thing.

54:46Paul Scheer:They have their own thing going on. But Geek Squad definitely... I gotta say, we might be wrong on Jeremy White. I actually think that too. He's not Geek Squad.

54:55Jake Johnson:He's not? He's too old for Geek Squad, right?

54:58Paul Scheer:And also, look at him from Shameless.

55:00Jake Johnson:Because of Shameless? Yes. Okay, okay, okay.

55:02Paul Scheer:Now, if there was no...

55:03Jake Johnson:But he certainly seems to be culturally Geek Squad. You know who he is?

55:07Paul Scheer:If he was a beatnik, he's William Burroughs. He's not in them. He's older. But you're like, they all love him.

55:16Jake Johnson:But they don't revere him. I don't think they look up to him the way that the beats looked up to Burroughs.

55:20Paul Scheer:I think they do deep down. Really? I think they all want to be in the Bears.

55:23Jason Mantzoukas:I think you want somebody younger. They all want to be Bruce Springsteen. Paul Mescal. Geek Squad. Geek Squad. Geek Squad. Yeah, right? The British Geek Squad.

55:35Paul Scheer:I think he takes Jeremy C. I think Jeremy C. I don't think that's right. I think he's just a little bit different. I agree. He also rips cigarettes publicly.

55:48Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, I think he's just a little, I think the Geek Squad has to have a little bit of youth on them too. It's a very fine line.

55:55Jake Johnson:What's interesting as well is almost everybody we've talked about are feature film actors, and Jeremy Allen White is primarily a TV actor.

56:05Jason Mantzoukas:yeah does that change it well we'll see at this award season by the way yeah but no jeremy allen

56:10Jake Johnson:white's gonna do whatever he wants now oh i mean he's incredibly talented but you are right

56:15Paul Scheer:but i do think the reason that jeremy is a different animal is he's a veteran and i know

56:20Jason Mantzoukas:i don't count when you're a kid actor like adam driver yeah yes but but adam driver's for sure

56:26Paul Scheer:not geek squad no no no no way he's just one of those vet you're like at a certain point you are without a group and these guys eventually will, one of them will make a documentary where they'll go like, can you believe those guys on that podcast called us the Geek Squad and the other ones will go, I never heard it.

56:42Jason Mantzoukas:They wrecked our career. They wrecked our burgeoning career. I don't want to say what's a podcast.

56:47Paul Scheer:You mean those geezers in their closets?

56:54Jason Mantzoukas:We are definitely making a Geek Squad shirt for this episode. I feel like we should list them all like your favorite players from a basketball team or something. By the way, Geek Squad does still exist. I am looking here. Oh, it does? I was going to ask. You can chat with a Geek Squad agent at any time if you give them a call. But again, we're not spelled the same way. Our Geek Squad is not spelled the same way. Wow, we really went... We did it. We did it.

57:17Jake Johnson:I don't even know we have anything more to say about the movie.

57:19Jason Mantzoukas:That's what I kind of feel like we've done it all. We've said it all. And I will tell you this. Jake, I love your show. You are fantastic on this podcast. You're fantastic and everything, but I just want to talk about this podcast because we're here to help. It's like Monday, Wednesdays, occasionally some Fridays. You got great rotating people coming in. But you and Gareth are great. You are funny. Jason, have you ever done it? No, never done it.

57:45Jake Johnson:I've never been invited.

57:47Paul Scheer:Jason, you are publicly invited. I'm so furious.

57:50Jason Mantzoukas:June and I have both done it.

57:52Paul Scheer:I'm going to court you from here on out. Yes.

57:54Jason Mantzoukas:But not for Geek Squad. June and I have done it. And what I think is so fun is it, by the way, if you like this episode where we are devolving into Geek Squad, I think you're going to love We're Here to Help because it is a show that is prone to fun tangents. You get to go off.

58:11Paul Scheer:I got to tell you, our base audience gets very upset with me. I'm the one that are liking the least these days. Oh, my God. Just because you chase down the tangents? What's funny about a base audience, which I love our group, and it's what I didn't realize this about podcasts, that you just form your group and every once in a while you get some new people, but there's the main group. The main group has so many opinions.

58:32Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

58:33Paul Scheer:And they get so mad at us. Our audience is going to be very upset about this.

58:39Jason Mantzoukas:Just wait.

58:39Jake Johnson:Yes. This episode is going to be infuriating to them.

58:43Jason Mantzoukas:That we had this great movie that we have now spent. And by the way, I wouldn't change a beat of it.

58:47Jake Johnson:I can't believe I watched that whole movie and they didn't talk about it for more than 10 minutes.

58:52Paul Scheer:The audience gets...

58:54Jake Johnson:They're obviously just jealous of younger actors. Geek Squad bullshit.

58:58Paul Scheer:I wish Nick Miller would stop talking so much.

59:03Jake Johnson:And that guy who kind of looks like him. They're so mean. I will tell you this much. It's so funny.

59:12Jason Mantzoukas:This is some facts that I think are interesting about it. You talk about the bears being bad. They went to David Prowse, who played Darth Vader, to be the bear. And he interviewed. And then they said, you know what? We don't need that guy. We'll just hire a very tall mime. And they hired a mime.

59:30Jake Johnson:Is that true?

59:30Jason Mantzoukas:Yep. They went with a Hungarian mime.

59:34Jake Johnson:I did feel like when they did, were able to trap the bear in the invisible box. That did. That was satisfying.

59:41Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, that's the best ending moment of any movie. A bear running through a concert stage. Getting caught. in it and I guess electrocuted. Electrocuted?

59:51Paul Scheer:Question mark? And then what was that final line from Nurse Ratched where she said like,

59:55Jake Johnson:You said part of the show.

59:59Jason Mantzoukas:Yes. Yes, it is.

1:00:02Jake Johnson:That's a weird ending. Oh, very weird. No, we don't catch up with any of the main characters again. No resolution. We end on a tertiary character's not real joke line.

1:00:15Jason Mantzoukas:And why does she even want to get back? So she's now running a public park and she wants to get back to D.C., but it would seem like she was disgraced in some way. She's like, the congressman will be here.

1:00:24Jake Johnson:And the way she's trying to impress them is to invite them to her rock concert in the park. It doesn't make any sense.

1:00:31Jason Mantzoukas:And then I also love the way they speak about the rock concert. They're like, this is how you've set it up? It's like, yeah, it's a one-night-only event. We will be building until the show starts and then we will be taking it down. It's not like you built the house and we're having an over. It's like, yeah, we're building a stage for a one-night. yeah this is it we don't you didn't build woodstock a year before woodstock happened

1:00:50Paul Scheer:they'd be like no it's like all the stages are still up you never take them down and and this

1:00:56Jason Mantzoukas:there's so many ideas here that were just not executed in any way as far as like they just

1:01:00Jake Johnson:pull a simple plot yeah they didn't finish i couldn't tell you what the story was for most of these characters they just seem to be scenes stitched together in it could be like in any

1:01:11Paul Scheer:order almost to talk to your audience for a second i was upset about this episode and the tangent we went on is this not the perfect type of episode for grizzly 2 a stitched together movie no through line that all of a sudden you're in a movie from 83 then you're in a karaoke video and a guy and i go what am i literally watching yeah and then it just goes to the left then there's a scene between a dad and a daughter that's sexual and they go what and she's like i'm gonna make you proud then you're i'm like what galaxy so of course we went to geek squad because grizzly 2 made us go there you can't control where we go grizzly 2 inspired geek

1:01:55Jason Mantzoukas:squad that's this is part of the legacy the long lasting legacy well uh that's the time that we have to spend with grizzly 2 and and you know if there was any doubt in your mind we're not going to do second opinions today only because who really has an earnest five-star review but you know and i don't think there are many but i will tell you that there is one that we found actually molly found it um our investigation has led us to believe that this is from the uh the special effects designer so i'll read it to you uh the movie is given five out of five stars and uh and the title is called crew perspective i read the comments that there were problems with the animatronic 14-foot bear.

1:02:35Jason Mantzoukas:That might be what the techs were told in the U.S., but there was no such item. The 14-foot version was a puppet that was intended to be used on the full-size stage, and all those shots were completed before leaving Hungary. The half-size animatronic version was complete and working prior to leaving Hungary, too, and we shot tests of it at that time. I had an agreement with Joe Proctor to direct half-size effects and elements. Other than that, there was a man-in-a-suit version that was complete. We were finished and ready to shoot in coordination with the storyboard that I also supervised with Tony Beasley.

1:03:12Jason Mantzoukas:The money dried up, and the crew's personal equipment was seized by the government, who told us that they were held against non-payment of production bills. We never got our stuff out of there. And that's why, guys, we're gonna make the movie that the geek squad will star in where they go in and get the camera equipment they go

1:03:31Jake Johnson:back to hungry like how many other reels of unseen film are there on the shelves in random countries

1:03:40Jason Mantzoukas:miami connection is a found in a storage locker right there are these movies that people find and uh look that's that's what we did we did this we did it jake thank you thank you for being with us uh i love the geek squad uh and i'm gonna think about the geek squad a lot yeah we're gonna i'm

1:03:59Jake Johnson:assuming we're gonna start a text uh immediately because yeah look i know it's it shouldn't catch

1:04:06Jason Mantzoukas:on but it's really good i really i really like the geek squad and if we can just subtly get it out there like this is what i've seen kind of pop up i know it's a little inside baseball but i've heard a lot of executives use the term meta and they've call and and they go well barbie's meta and then i've heard like naked guns meta and i and i think that they don't want to call it a comedy so they call it meta so i think that these things can take on like barbie's not meta it's it's you know it's but i think that like all we need to do is say it to a couple people and make them feel uncomfortable about like we don't explain it three of us have the kind of reach

1:04:41Paul Scheer:meetings yes we're all we need to say maybe here's the goal yeah we never say that this is where it started we've just heard it where you go like oh weather and heights looks great and you go like well i mean you got one of the kings of the greek squad in it so you know it's gonna you know not only is it going to work financially but you know it's going to be good quality and they go one of the members and you go all the school no you just call them the squad it needs to come

1:05:07Jason Mantzoukas:back to us that's when we know that we have won wad yes when we hear it from someone else we i also

1:05:13Jake Johnson:think we should say it as if we obviously we we didn't come up with this but like oh what are what do they call them uh the geek squad you know we could do here's what we could do guys

1:05:23Jason Mantzoukas:we gotta call them the g squad oh i like that hide it a little bit more because and then we yeah like where did that even geek squad come from what you just said jason sounded insane

1:05:34Jake Johnson:Well, yeah, I know. You know that's what you've been saying for about one hour.

1:05:39Paul Scheer:Because we also look alike, hearing you say it and looking like me, I realize we're crazy. That's what it's going to sound. That's what that experience is. It's bad.

1:05:47Jake Johnson:Yes, it's not good. It can't be a bunch of 50-year-olds calling the young hunks and hotties the geek squad. This is a bad idea.

1:05:57Paul Scheer:Abort.

1:05:57Jake Johnson:Abort. I just got a text from Jake that says, edit all the geek squad stuff out.

1:06:04Paul Scheer:i thought it was a compliment on board it sounds terrible coming from us

1:06:08Jason Mantzoukas:i'm gonna say it like this i'm big oh man you see uh one battle after another i loved it i mean alana haim though trying to get in that g squad i mean

1:06:15Paul Scheer:by the way she's great what do you mean oh just the younger generation yeah taking over you know i thought i honestly i love everything paul thomas anderson does it was nice seeing leo you throw a guy from the g squad in that movie though i think it's gonna be way that's boxing i mean look and i think

1:06:29Jason Mantzoukas:But the problem is, I think Paul Thomas Anderson got so caught up in trying to make somebody from the G-Squad with Chase Infinity, who's great, but she's not full. Guess what?

1:06:38Paul Scheer:G-Squad sounds like Gangster Squad, and that's cool.

1:06:41Jake Johnson:Or it sounds like God Squad. Yeah. You know, I'm just saying.

1:06:49Jason Mantzoukas:Holy cow.

1:06:50Jake Johnson:Oh, man. Oh, man. I loved it. Tremblay really wants that G-Squad action. what a wild trip this episode was from the movie to the conversation everything just an absolute

1:07:02Jason Mantzoukas:surprise one surprise after another oh my gosh all right uh we'll have if you have your suggestions for the g squad hit us up next week on last looks jason and i will evaluate and get through it all like g squad's cool the way you just put that yeah this is good i like the g squad and by the way just use it alana hayman is the perfect person because she's great but she's not she's not she

1:07:25Paul Scheer:is not not yeah but because guess what paul thomas henderson is not a director for the g squad no not at all no so if you're in with him you're cool but jane g squad yeah this is good i'm i'm feeling

1:07:37Jason Mantzoukas:good about i'm feeling good about where we're headed with this g squad yeah and if you're a musician you're a pop star you're not g squad and if you are somebody who like writes her vulture or the ringer, feel free to say, oh yeah, everyone's been talking. Everyone needs to figure out on your sub-stacks, whatever you're doing.

1:07:52Paul Scheer:Vulture would be a perfect place for it.

1:07:54Jason Mantzoukas:Or somebody on TikTok.

1:07:56Paul Scheer:But here's what I want.

1:07:57Jake Johnson:I want them to do it, and I would like to encourage them to do it without referencing us. As if it's their own thing.

1:08:06Paul Scheer:Because if they reference us, it's going to seem like a joke. But if it's just the

1:08:10Jason Mantzoukas:G-Squad... It's got to be said very casually. Again, it's said to make people feel like they didn't know. It's not about we're introducing the G-Squad. It's Yacht Rock.

1:08:22Jake Johnson:Yeah. Whenever you're doing press, Jake, for the next movie, you've got to be like, you know, we went out. Do you have any G-Squad in The Dink? We chased a couple of those G-Squad kids but couldn't get them.

1:08:34Paul Scheer:No, there's no G-Squad in Dink. Ed Harris is a little bit older. I'm thinking really fast. No, there's no G-Squad. Then I did a movie with Dakota Fanning. She's not G-Squad. No.

1:08:44Jason Mantzoukas:a couple years earlier she might have been a couple years later she might have been

1:08:47Paul Scheer:I don't even think Elle Fanning is G-Squad

1:08:50Jason Mantzoukas:I don't either

1:08:51Paul Scheer:I actually don't think I've ever worked with G-Squad

1:08:53Jason Mantzoukas:I've worked with G-Squad well I did a movie with Joey King and she was dating Jacob Elordi at the time so I guess I was hanging out with G-Squad

1:09:01Paul Scheer:but Joey King is not Geek Squad

1:09:04Jason Mantzoukas:she's Geek Squad adjacent but yes so I was I guess I've never done it yeah I guess I've not yeah you're right okay wow gotta take that in i mean yeah anthony ramos anthony ramos hey slow down babe we're

1:09:20Paul Scheer:getting older this happens g squad comes and then when they come you gotta kick some little shit off the boat we're the only shit on the boat oh yeah we gotta be old barrels just

1:09:31Jake Johnson:guess what guess we are the wilford brimley's of that for them agreed oh wow remember to them We're younger.

1:09:39Paul Scheer:Yeah. Yeah. Those guys are younger than us.

1:09:42Jason Mantzoukas:Younger. Younger. Danny Glover was 42 in Lethal Weapon to be too old for this shit. 42. So guys, Carol O 'Connor was 47. How about this?

1:09:52Paul Scheer:When he played Archie Bunker. What? 47. Imagine a G-Squatter watching this little zoom of the three of us. You know who he's seeing? Danny Glover. Archie Bunker. Yes. I mean,

1:10:05Jason Mantzoukas:Wilfred Brinkley. Wilford Brinley, 49 in Cocoon. 49 in Cocoon. I guarantee those guys don't have headphones when they do zooms.

1:10:17Paul Scheer:They do it differently somehow. It's Geek Squad. They know it. They know it. You can see our wires, you geeks. Look at us all. Oh, man. They're all automated. They're all like fucking AirPods. They're like, what are you doing? You can see the mic, and we're like, it's better sound quality. And they're like, you need G Squad.

1:10:34Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, my God. This is so funny. This is the best. Holy shit. Wow. Wow. We did it. I don't know what we did, but we did it. And if you're a first time listener, this is a little different than what we normally do. So I encourage you to check out another episode if you'd like. And make sure that if you are listening to episodes, you are following us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. We will be back next week on Last Looks to talk more about Grizzly 2. We can even actually talk about the movie, or we could just keep on talking about G-Squad. Your choice. I really am interested what June would think about the G-Squad.

1:11:11Jason Mantzoukas:But you know what? Maybe you can ask us about the G-Squad on the road. That's right. How did this get made? And Dinosaur are going out on the road on the East Coast. We're going to be in D.C. We're going to be in Boston. We're going to be in New York and Philly. Philly, we're back. So go get your tickets. Go to hdtgm.com. We cannot wait to see on the road. joining dinosaur Edie Patterson from the Righteous Gemstones, Danielle Schneider from Garbage World, Mary Holland, Rob Riggle. So many great people are jumping in on this dinosaur shows, and they've been selling out. So come check it out. HDTGM.com.

1:11:46Jason Mantzoukas:You can also subscribe to The Dark Web. It's free. It's on YouTube every week. Me and Rob people go to the depths of the internet. Also have a sub stack, which has been a lot of fun. It's completely free. Or you can And also throw me some money if you'd like, but that's not why I'm in this. Okay? Enough people are taking your money. June is in Weapons and Freak Your Friday, which are both now streaming. And you can catch Jason in Amazon's Invincible. It's a great show. You can follow us on social media at HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producer, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, and our movie picking producer, Averill Halley, as well as our engineer, Casey Holford.

1:12:19Jason Mantzoukas:We'll see you next week for Last Looks, where you decide what we're going to talk about. Boy, oh boy, it's going to be a lot. Bye for now. Aessa הז particular sai una gai jus