Hudson Hawk w/ Emily Gordon (HDTGM Matinee)

26 Aug 2025 · 57 min · 32 chapters

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In short

The How Did This Get Made Matinee episode reviews Hudson Hawk (1991), a chaotic action-comedy-heist fantasy that the hosts argue is a “vanity project” with mismatched tone, cartoonish physics, and nonsensical plot mechanics.

Guest backgrounds

Emily Gordon is known for her video-game podcast The Indoor Kids. She joins Paul Scheer, Jason Mantzoukas, and June Diane Raphael.

Key claims

The movie’s heists are too easy and time logic is inconsistent (bomb countdown goes wrong; VCR/dubbing mistakes; characters celebrate mid-robbery). CIA agents use candy-bar code names (Kit Kat, etc.) and eat the named candy at an auction. The villains’ alchemy plan to turn lead into gold is scientifically and narratively flimsy, including a “gold vs lead” test where characters can’t tell the difference. The film is said to be song-driven: Bruce Willis wrote the movie based on the end-credits song “Hudson Hawk.”

Notable examples

Kit Kat’s bad mimicry (dressing as Andy McDowell), the “Swing on a Star” singing robbery sequence, the Vatican infiltration, the “how’s my driving” tollbooth gag, and the Nintendo-era video game tie-in (stealing from the auction house and Vatican).

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Chapters

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Movie Overview: Hudson Hawk

0:17 to 0:27

A discussion about the various genres and themes of Hudson Hawk.

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Movie Overview: Hudson Hawk

2:05 to 3:20

A discussion about the various genres and themes of Hudson Hawk.

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Physical Comedy and Tone

3:20 to 4:25

Exploration of physical comedy and tonal decisions in the film.

“Guys, let's talk about this movie because, first of all, what the hell is it?”

Vanity Project Gone Wrong

4:25 to 5:10

Discussion on how Hudson Hawk feels like a misaligned vanity project.

“I will say that everything about this movie is like a vanity project gone horribly wrong.”

Candy Bar Names and Character Traits

5:10 to 6:04

Analyzing the peculiar naming of CIA characters in the film.

“All the CIA characters have candy bar names.”

Heist Logic and Execution

6:04 to 8:10

Reviewing the illogical aspects of the heist scenes in Hudson Hawk.

“I love that that's the fanciest candy in the world to us.”

Musical Elements in the Film

8:10 to 10:10

Exploring the unexpected musical elements of Hudson Hawk.

“But it's juxtaposed with scenes of brutal violence.”

Robbery Timing and Execution Flaws

10:10 to 14:00

Critique of timing and execution during the robbery scenes.

“By the way, I'm going to say one thing before I play this clip of them actually singing because I think you need to hear it.”

Flawed Heist Logic in Hudson Hawk

14:00 to 20:02

Explore the flawed logic and absurdities of Hudson Hawk's heist sequences.

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Flawed Heist Logic in Hudson Hawk

21:58 to 23:06

Explore the flawed logic and absurdities of Hudson Hawk's heist sequences.

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Character Analysis and Plot Ridiculousness

23:17 to 28:01

Discuss the character choices and plot ridiculousness of Hudson Hawk.

“The opening scene is just to basically set up the final scene, which is like, oh, and this room has everything that you'll need for our characters to play with, including a flying machine, which comes in very handy.”

Exploring E.T. and Undercover Nuns

28:01 to 29:59

Discussion around the film Hudson Hawk, focusing on character revelations and humor.

“But still, I mean, if he's so great at doing this stuff, why didn't he break out of jail?”

Confusion Among Secret Organizations

30:00 to 31:39

Analyzing the various secret organizations in the movie and their interactions.

“Well, then the problem really was that they, at various times, were teaming up and were double-crossing each other.”

Bruce Willis and Movie Humor

31:40 to 33:59

A look at comedic moments in Bruce Willis's films, focusing on Die Hard references.

“You don't want to go out dressed as a statue.”

Character Relationships and Humor

34:00 to 37:08

Examining character dynamics and comedic elements within Hudson Hawk.

“These are like jokes that people make at a cigar club.”

Screenplay Insights and Casting Changes

37:09 to 39:13

Discussion on the screenplay's writers and casting choices for Hudson Hawk.

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Controversial Humor in 90s Films

39:14 to 40:02

Addressing problematic jokes and themes present in early 90s cinema.

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Controversial Humor in 90s Films

40:03 to 41:11

Addressing problematic jokes and themes present in early 90s cinema.

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Controversial Humor in 90s Films

42:03 to 43:05

Addressing problematic jokes and themes present in early 90s cinema.

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Controversial Humor in 90s Films

43:07 to 43:17

Addressing problematic jokes and themes present in early 90s cinema.

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Villains in Hudson Hawk

44:29 to 46:14

Discussing the performances of Richard E. Grant and Sandra Bernhard.

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Bruce Willis and Satire

46:15 to 47:42

Analyzing Bruce Willis's defense of Hudson Hawk as satire.

“And then the fact that they threw the dog out the window at the end.”

The Concept of Satire

47:43 to 49:06

Exploring the definition of satire and its application in Hudson Hawk.

“They dig the fact that it was making fun of itself, and that it was satire.”

Box Office Failure

49:07 to 51:04

Discussing Hudson Hawk's poor box office performance and its legacy.

“I've actually never heard that definition.”

Andy McDowell's Dolphin Noises

51:05 to 52:32

Analyzing Andy McDowell's unusual performance in Hudson Hawk.

“And this had that, like that's why I went to a date.”

Critiques of Hudson Hawk

52:33 to 54:34

Reviewing audience reactions and critiques of Hudson Hawk.

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Amazon Reviews Segment

54:35 to 56:00

Reading and discussing five-star Amazon reviews of Hudson Hawk.

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Critique of Hudson Hawk Reviews

56:00 to 58:00

Discussion on how critics perceive comedy in films, specifically Hudson Hawk.

“A lot of the Hudson Hawk reviews attack critics for being bad.”

Memorable Moments in Hudson Hawk

58:00 to 1:00:06

Analysis of standout scenes and character moments in Hudson Hawk.

“And we want to just play Danny Aiello's comeback moment.”

Character Analysis and Comparisons

1:00:06 to 1:02:00

Discussion about character portrayals and comparisons to other films.

“if you have any final points, but they make a big deal about Danny Aiello being fat.”

Final Thoughts on Hudson Hawk

1:02:00 to 1:04:00

Wrapping up thoughts on Hudson Hawk and its entertainment value.

“And I will say I watched most of it, but the three-part interview series with Bruce Willis and Robert Kraft as they sit around.”

Final Thoughts on Hudson Hawk

1:05:19 to 1:05:50

Wrapping up thoughts on Hudson Hawk and its entertainment value.

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Transcript

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1:50Jason Mantzoukas:How did this get ready? We're gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, cause you know you wonder how did this get made? Let's wallow in the mediocrity of subpar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made? Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made. I am Paul Scheer, joined as always by my two co-hosts, Jason Mantzoukas. How are you, Jason? I'm good, Paul. How are you? Very good. And Miss June Diane Rafe. Am I getting that right? Yeah, that's correct. Okay, great. Right. As always, we have a very special guest with us.

2:23That's the issue. Miss. Miss June's. Yeah. Oh. Just like our Twitter handle. MS. You got that right. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. I'm just sussing that up for myself. We have a very special guest today. You know her from her podcast, The Indoor Kids, all about video games. It's awesome. Please welcome Emily Gordon. Welcome, Emily. Hello. Hi, everybody. Welcome. I like the one hand clap. I know. It was right there. One. And you're here. You got to clap. Yay. I'll say this. Very few claps ever had. We never give a clap. Oh, really? Yeah. It wasn't like not a clap. We didn't make a conscious choice. No, that was the most that anyone's got.

2:58Well, then you guys give a clap. It really was. Like, you should appreciate that Paul had an involuntary response, which was to applaud your being here. And that June and I looked at him and said, what are you doing? No. Yeah, no. Yeah, they were not going to give it up. We don't want you to get too cocky. Yeah. I'd be like, I love L.A. How's L.A. doing tonight? Anybody smoke weed? and then see what I can get from that. I love Cheap of Love. Guys, let's talk about this movie because, first of all, what the hell is it? Is it a comedy? Is it a mystery? Is it an action movie? A drama? A musical? I think it's a cartoon that is just with real people in it.

3:36That's what I ran about. There's lots of very Looney Tunes, like head bonks, and whenever stuff, like punches and stuff, it's very, like the sound effects are crazy. Yeah, it's a bit much. I couldn't quite tell, though, if that was a decision made before, like, after the movie was shot. Or did Bruce Willis write them in? Because he wrote this movie. And I think they were already in. Because if you'll remember the scene where, by the way, I have no idea what happens in this movie. I just wrote down words. Like, Mario Brothers, Mayflower, Da Vinci. Like, I do not know the plot of this movie. But there's one scene where someone punches him and he sort of folds in two.

4:14Yes. and then he comes back up and then he folds again. Oh yeah, and like the paralysis scene. There's a lot of physical comedy that is very kind of... So I think that's the tone they were going for. I think so too. I agree. I will say that everything about this movie is like a vanity project gone horribly wrong. Yes. Because I don't think anyone was on the same page. I feel like Bruce Willis was doing something and everyone else was doing something too and we were talking about this before this started. Like, I think everyone was committing 100%. Oh yeah. There was no... tried really hard. Yeah.

4:46And everybody I felt like was like, you know what? We're really nailing it. I felt like Richard E. Grant and Sandra Bernard. I felt like James Coburn. I felt like everybody was like, you know what? We're fucking killing this. David Caruso killed it so hard. David Caruso was unbelievable. I can't be like that kid possibly. And by that, I mean he was horrible. David Caruso plays a mute named Kit Kat who is working for the CIA. All the CIA characters have candy bar names. We can get into that later. Or not. Or not. Who gives a fuck? I think that's it. I think that's all you need to hear. Not only do they have candy bar names, but they are all eating the candy bars they are named after at the auction.

5:28Their introduction, before they are named, their introduction is he looks around and notices there are five people eating candy bars in an auction where there are also like five shakes. But I thought that that's how they got their names. Well, they had other names before. and then they renamed them. So you might be right. Maybe that's because it's their preference of candy. I like my favorite. But then they still have to eat them? They don't have to. It's just like, that's the candy they like. Guess what? If you're an undercover CIA agent at an incredibly fancy hundred million dollar auction, guess what you don't do?

5:59Pull out store-bought candy and start chomping on it like you're a goddamn asshole. Lindor truffles. These have to be Lindor truffles. Yeah, yeah. Like a Faroe Rocher. DCM.

6:13I love that that's the fanciest candy in the world to us. That and Toblerone. The classic candy. Those are the candies that your parents brought you back from the duty free shop when they went on an international trip. All airport candy. And sometimes an Andy's Mint. Oh, I love those. But let me ask you a question about Kit Kat, because Kit Kat's defining CIA trait is that he dresses up as people. He's a mimic. A mimic, but he's not a good mimic. He's not only a mimic, but he's an incidental mimic. He just incidentally arrives on the scene wearing exactly what one of the two people in the scene is wearing.

6:56Either Bruce Willis or the one that truly blew my mind is when he was dressed as Andy McDowell. When he shows up and he escorts her out in Italy in a matching red dress and a wig like hers. How could he have known? What is this movie? The CIA is like, so are you going to be Andy McDowell at any point? No. He's like, oh, this will be fun. I'll dress up like the people we're working with. But I'm not going to use that to any advantage, tactical advantage. None of it. The only thing he does to any advantage is say to Bruce Willis via card, because he doesn't speak, watch out for the blue wire. Right.

7:32And by the way, so he has to communicate through business cards. But the business cards are so utterly specific. They're pre-typed. Yes. You guys, that's the bit. That's the bit. There's so much in this movie that, like, it's like, there are pieces of this movie that have a toys-like logic towards the movie. Yes, for sure. That is completely unfounded and unwarranted. Like, toys lived in a fantasy world and everything obeyed that reality. Do you mean, like, when they fall out of the sky, they land on chairs? Yes, one. Or when they fall, when they jump off of, like, a two-story building and land on a marble, like, slab.

8:09Really hard. It looks really hard. They're just totally fine. But it's juxtaposed with scenes of brutal violence. People getting shot in the head. Heads cut off. So it's like they didn't stick that landing. I'm okay with a Three Stooges movie, but never in the Three Stooges do you see someone get their heads cut off. I felt like Bruce Willis was like, let's do Die Hard with Three Stooges plus Bugs Bunny plus Da Vinci plus the Vatican. Andy McDowell's a nun. and I get to sing a song. It feels like they were writing this movie on set. Like, hey, we'll sing a song now. Put it in, new script pages, new script pages.

8:47Because guess what cat burglars should be doing while they're robbing an auction house is audibly singing. This is my theory. My theory of the movie is that Bruce Willis has a band called Bruce Willis and the Accelerators. Oh, I had the album when I was a kid. I mean, what's the... The Return of Bruno. Yeah, and my theory is that he wanted to make a movie where he could sing and yet not have it be like a quote unquote fruity musical. And so he was like, I need to make an action movie, maybe put some humor in. But then there's not enough singing. I agree. I could have used more. I'll tell you what, I enjoyed that scene.

9:22The first one? Swing on a star. It actually was quite enjoyable, even though it didn't make any sense whatsoever. Oh, heaven's now. Here's the thing, and I enjoyed the concept that they would time the robbery because they knew the length of certain songs. I agree with you on this, but I'm going to just throw one wrench into this. That would require them to sing the entire time together. Which they don't do. They stop for harmonies or they stop for solos. So if I'm in another side of the museum and I'm just pausing. You're still counting at that point. I think they're still counting. Yeah. Okay.

9:59Regardless, though, it would be one thing if they both put on a little transistor radio headset and listened to the song. But they are singing out loud while cat burgling. And dancing. Oh, and dancing. By the way, I'm going to say one thing before I play this clip of them actually singing because I think you need to hear it. This movie is based on a song. What? Yes. Come again. Bruce Willis wrote this movie. It was based on a song that him and this guy, I believe Robert Kraft is his name, they wrote a song together called Hudson. Krafty? Yes. Oh, called Hudson Hawk. That's right. Called Hudson Hawk.

10:31Because it's the one that plays over the end credits. Yes. Yeah, it's horrible. So basically that song bred this movie. Now here's a song. Now here's them singing. Let's take a listen.

10:50He does have a nice singing voice. He does. If you like someone whispering a song. I do. I do. I guess I do too. And so they do this long musical. They do this long, long sequence. Now, here's my issue with that sequence. It was a kind of, again, I agree, cool premise that they know the beats and everything like that. But then Bruce Willis is the sloppiest cat burglar because not only does he rob the safe, but then he leaves everything open and really unattended. Very unattended. Very unattended. There's no... Which robbery are you talking about? The first robbery. Okay, got it. The first, right?

11:28Oh, by the way, they're robbing a place that, they're robbing a gallery that behind their famous paintings, they have a safe. Yep. Which I thought was a weird touch. That's what paintings are. They just are covers for safe. Well, that's only museums. There would be a painting and then behind the Mona Lisa is a great safe. Well, you know that most museums have upwards of 2 ,000 safes in the walls. Yeah, that's all. Because it's just, behind every painting is a safe. It's like a safety deposit box, but it's an arty deposit box. There may not be anything in them. No, no. They're always there. He is.

12:00They are. The action in this movie is so deeply flawed. I mean the action, like the heist specifics. He seems so able to do everything needed in a heist within no time at all. Yes. He gets from the basement to the roof, from the roof to the gallery. He opens this. All he has to do is put a lockpick three inches from a lock, and the door is open. It's like, it is very bizarre how easy it is to rob the most complex organizations. He robs the Vatican at one point, spoiler alert, and with ease. He was in there for roughly three to four minutes. And he had roughly an hour of prep. He got to Italy. He woke up in a giant suitcase.

12:45Excuse me. He woke up in a giant suitcase. Stuffed with peanuts. Everything shipped to Italy. Why? Why did they need to ship him to Italy in a box? Because he would have fought. He would have fought the whole way. But why not just knock him out? No, he was passed out. Yeah. But I'm assuming they put him in cargo. Yes. Oh, for sure. Yeah, because he was in the peanuts. He was in the packing peanuts. Guys, what? So many eyebrows would have been raised if they tried to get him to an airport. A knockout Bruce Willis going to security? You're not going to get that. You're not going to get that. He and Danny Ayala were singing that song.

13:19He gets the horse. Then they start singing it just full-throated. Yes. And then they come together. They're like, job well done. We did this. They come together and they're laughing. And they're dancing. And they're still in the auction house. They're in the middle of the robbery. Like he decides. They're not at the end. No. They're in the middle. But are celebrating the fuck out of this. You have to get out of there. They don't know that. They knew they had a very short time interval to get out. And they had no problem leaving the safe. Also, the whole plan was that this video thing would be on a loop.

13:52and at the end of two minutes or whatever, it would reveal itself. It's not unlike in Toys, when Robin Williams makes the music video, which is also a very flawed idea. Is this your go-to reference? We just watched it recently. And it's so full of so many amazing moments. June was unfortunately not there. I didn't see it. Wait, you didn't see it, though? She doesn't feel like she's unfortunate. Oh, June. It's really not good. But you would think the idea would be, we need to rob this place, and so when the video monitors come back on, everything will be back to normal. But they make a giant mess of that room.

14:23Oh, yeah. A huge mess. Yeah. Well, there's also like a complete disregard for time. Oh. Okay. So, like, for example, just in this example alone, Danny Aiello goes, I need five minutes. And they go, perfect. Here's the song. Whatever. Bing, bing, boom. Now they all start singing. Bing, bing, ba, doo, boop, boop. Okay. Five minutes does not. I mean, like, the time is, Danny Aiello fucks up the VCRs. Yes. Like, whatever it is. the dubbing of the footage. He's mistakenly done that. He's made a mess of that. And then later, when the guy sets the bomb to go off in two minutes, the bomb goes off in 35 seconds.

14:5935 seconds, 100%. It's counting down like two minutes. You know, 140, whatever. And then, boom, it explodes. Well, the bomb logic in this movie is insane. As one person gets a bomb stuck to their head, later in the movie, and it's just by a big suction cup. It's like a squeegee. Yeah. You can get that off. He could not get that off. That would be something that you could get off. By the way, if you shot that thing at his head with that amount of volume, his head would have exploded instantly. Or just broken his neck. I mean, the force of that 50-pound thing. Here's the weird thing about - It's a gun that shoots bombs.

15:33If anybody's wondering what we're talking about, the bad guys have - One of the sets of bad guys have - We haven't explained this movie at all. No. We haven't talked about Da Vinci. We haven't talked about - You were great at Da Vinci, by the way. This movie. How dare you? How dare you? A lot of people wrote in that you look exactly like Da Vinci. We'll post a picture on the website so you can see it. You know what, audience? I do not care for this. You will respect me. I will. From now on. From now on. Wait a minute. Let me see it. Here it is. Here it is.

16:04It is an amazing, amazing likeness. Son of a bitch. Well, by the way, Da Vinci does one of those things. In this movie, I'm going to talk about this a couple times, I think. It does these things, bad movie tropes. and one of the things that always gets me is old characters putting on sunglasses. Great. Skateboards. Skateboards are always welcome. Which is definitely in there. I wrote down another one in here too. We'll get to it. One of mine was. Oh, okay, got it. No, no, please. Freeze frame, which turns into drawing. I love it. Which is the end of the book. Yes. Like, yes. So those are three things that I feel like if you ever see those, you know you are watching.

16:38Oh, and, and, and sorry. Oh, no, that's in the next movie. When a movie opens in like 1300, whatever, when it opens on that and it just looks like something like the corner of a Spencer Gifts that they somehow I'm like oh I'm on board I'm ready for a movie how about this how about when Da Vinci enters his lab and cracks his knuckles he like extends it he like crack like let's get to work by the way what was the purpose of that device for Da Vinci to make gold he wants to make gold by the way if you guys are guessing this movie is about alchemy okay but cut to present day what were they using it for exactly same thing It's the same thing.

17:13They want to turn lead into gold. Wait, Richard E. Grant and Sandra Byrd? Yeah. Yeah, they wanted to turn lead into gold so that they could world domination. You know, world domination. So they could just control currency. Yes. That's exactly. It wasn't even, that's what I loved. It wasn't even like, then we'll have a lot of gold. We can sell it. That's what I couldn't understand. Yeah, it was like, no. To control currency and, like, to start sort of mass chaos. Yeah, yeah. That was the end goal, right? Well, I'm assuming, yeah, I guess so. I mean, maybe having that much gold would, who cares?

17:40I want to get it. First of all, their plan is a terrible plan, and I don't think even anyone knows what their plan is. I will say that Sandra Bernhardt and Richard E. Grant, who are the villains in this movie, don't know a lot about gold and lead, or either the script writer didn't either. Because there's a scene where they put a piece of gold and a piece of lead in Bruce Willis' hand. And they go, you need to tell us the difference. They're exactly the same. How would you tell the difference? They're not the same. The gold bar they had would weigh around 30 pounds. And the piece of lead would be about one pound.

18:14So that would be amazing. That's how strong Bruce Willis is. That it doesn't mean anything to him. Gold is 70 % denser than lead. And they also say there's only one molecule of difference between gold and lead. That is also not true. That's three protons and seven neutrons difference. So even the research on this movie is bare bones. That's easy. The difference between gold and lead. I've seen in the past, the Da Vinci opening scene where you walk through Da Vinci's lab and they've got the gold machine spinning. And Da Vinci's working on everything that he's done simultaneously. The Mona Lisa is almost done.

18:51Wait a second. Okay, hang on. We all saw that the Mona Lisa's bad teeth were also in that police officer in the present day, right? Yes, uh-huh. Why? No, I did not catch. I thought they have a thing about bad teeth. Oh, that's funny, yeah. Because they did it twice within the first five minutes. But never again. Never again. Anyway, okay, so I wanted to mention that. But they're in the past. But finally we know why. I mean, that's a funny joke. Oh, it's hilarious. Finally we know why Mona Lisa's not smiling. I'm assuming Willis was like, hey, we still got those fucking Mona Lisa teeth around? Throw them in this guy's mouth.

19:25This is going to be hilarious. Anyway, so in the past, they've got the gold machine spinning. And the thing zaps the whatever. And then they crack open the thing and everybody's like, oh, and everybody's speaking Italian. Everybody's speaking non-subtitled Italian. And somebody goes, oh, gold. And I was like, there is no way that somebody in the fucking 1300s goes, oh, gold. Like, it made me so mad.

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23:31Yeah, yeah. I was like, I can't wait for this to come. And when he spots it, I was like, oh, money shot. This is going to be it. I saw this movie on a date in high school. Wow. Oh, wow. And that was the only part of the movie I remembered. Was them flying out of the exploding building. That is amazing. And I remembered hating it. How did that date go? Was the date good? Not very well. No, no, actually the date went totally fine. The date went fine. But it was like we both were like, fuck this movie. This is one of my mom's favorite movies. Yeah, you were saying that. No. My mom has great taste in movies and also very bad taste.

24:04So she'll watch a lot of really interesting indie movies. Like, have you seen The Flower of Dr. Nobody? And I'm like, no, I haven't seen that one yet. And she's like, oh, it's amazing. Wait, you haven't seen The Flower of Dr. Nobody? No, not yet. Oh, dude. I know. I know it's playing at the whatever. But she also loves this movie and also Saving Silverman, which is a fine movie. Oh, my gosh. Those are two of her favorite movies. Why does she love it? I cannot get an answer from her. Does she love Bruce Willis? I mean, she loved Moonlighting. We used to watch Moonlighting. Okay, Moonlighting is amazing.

24:30I did too. Oh, I love Moonlighting. Loved. By the way, I was, just to sidetrack on a tangent here, like How I Met Your Mother this week. Again, we have a little rivalry with How I Met Your Mother. You know what? You know what? Fuck those guys. Uh-oh. How I Met Your Mother this week, we're like, they did a rhyming episode, and it's never been done before. And I was like, no, Moonlighting did it. Yeah, that's true. They did the Iambic Pentameter episode. The Shakespeare, the Taming of the Shrew episode. Yeah, so I just wanted to break that down for a second. So guess what, How I Met Your Mother?

24:55You guys fucked up again. The feud continues. You know the deal. Meet us in the parking lot. I want to watch this. I want to watch this. H-Y-I-M meets H-D-G. Whatever. I'm just realizing, too, when they do that first robbery, and they're so casual about it and taking so much time, He hasn't done a heist like this in a decade? Many years. Oh, at least 10 years. He's not even played Nintendo. He's not even played Nintendo. Let's get into the Nintendo. The video game runner of this movie is insane because he's also a young guy. Like, you imagine that Bruce Willis did this movie at, like, 32, 33? Yeah.

25:39I mean, it was in 1991. 91. So I feel like that's, you know, I don't know. I'm not going to do the math of that. All right. Wait, where did actually, I don't know this. Right after Die Hard 2. Thank you. So he's still a young man, but he plays up that he's been in jail for such a long time. Like 10 years on this, and he goes, I don't even know what Nintendo is. And Nintendo comes in, Mario Brothers comes in. Well, there was a Hudson Hawk video game. That's exactly what I found out today. It was a really terrible Hudson Hawk video game, but they pushed it a lot. It was for Nintendo, right? Yes, it was for Nintendo.

26:16after the movie was out to go along with the movie it was going to be this huge thing that's why you're here I'll only do movies that have video games it was released for the Commodore 64 Amiga, ZX Spectrum and Atari as well as the NES and Game Boy and it's like by the way what kid is going I love the movie I want to play the game and what is it in the game do you rob things let me rob rob Vatican According here, you play as Hawk and you must steal the Storza and the Codex from the Auction House and the Vatican, respectively. Then, Castle da Vinci has to be infiltrated in order to steal the mirrored crystal that needs to power the gold machine.

26:56On his journey, Hawk must face many oddball adversaries, including dachshunds that try to throw him off the roof of the Auction House, janitors, photographers, killer nuns, and a tennis player, presumably Darwin Mayflower. That is the really weird thing about this movie. like none of the theft is done with any grace or intelligence or strategy. No, no, no. Or like. No, like versus like an Ocean's Eleven where half of the movie is planning. Which, by the way, is so sexy. Yes. Amazing to watch. I love it. This is like he wakes up in the suitcase day of and they give him one tour of the Vatican. Yeah.

27:30And they're like, oh, and you're robbing it tonight. Postal service. The people service. And there's no. Yeah, there's no trailer. And his list of things he needs are like olive oil, a bunch of stamps. Wait, what did he do with the stamps? Oh, he mailed himself into the Vatican. Remember he was in that big box. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, I want to, this is again. Second time he got mailed. I love mailing himself. That's like his fucking move. He liked it.

27:51Jason Mantzoukas:He liked it. I do want to bring up one of the things, again, why I couldn't figure out how long he's been in jail. He doesn't know what Nintendo is. I buy that. He hadn't seen E.T. That's it. Yeah. Never saw E.T. Because E.T. is what, 82? Oh, or maybe. All right. So E.T. came out in 82. Yes. Okay. That works. Yeah. That works in math. Yeah, for 10 years. For 10 years since. All right. All right. There we go. But still, I mean, if he's so great at doing this stuff, why didn't he break out of jail? That's number one. Andy McDowell is a nun. Oh. That happens. She is the romantic lead in the movie.

28:25She keeps flirting and going after him. Oh, three quarters of the way through the movie, it is revealed by virtue of a wardrobe change Yes. By putting her in a nun's habit that she is a nun. Are they allowed to dress sexy on their off time? Well, I mean, she's an under. She's also undercover. She's an undercover nun. She's an undercover. Guys. Undercover. Fucking nailed it. Make the poster. Make the poster. Undercover. Undercover? By the way, that is a movie. That is a movie. This is not been done. We have to make an undercover. Undercover. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. By the way, that should be. I almost want us to cut this out of the podcast.

29:05It's brilliant. I'm not kidding. I need to register this before the undercover. Oh, God. I need to leave right now. I have to start writing. Hey, can I? She'll be in the habit of busting all the crimes. Oh, that's okay. That's okay. Wow, wow. He really shot you down on this. How about busting crimes is her habit. Oh, I like that. I mean, you just took my idea and moved it around. You know what? I get that. I get that. You know what? You know what? You can control the video game. Undercover the video game. That'll be a really sexy one. By the way, Nundercover. That is amazing. You know what? Those kind of moments, they don't come along all the time.

29:44You have to really respect it. By the way, I feel great. I'm not a lawyer. I feel great. I'm not a lawyer, but if anyone writes that. Wait, you're not a lawyer? I'm not a lawyer, but if anyone writes that, I think we can see you. We have the basis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you write that, you're off. Timestamped. Yes. I've been timestamped. Okay, she's a nun. she's a nun who communicates through a talking light up crucifix that thing scares the shit out of me that really frightening that was really weird uncomfortable to look at well there's four organizations of secret people in this that's what's so confusing and I know I did just get a flu shot today so I watched it I was a little out of it I was very confused I also got the same flu shot and it did not temper my brain power this is not a I was very confused about who was CIA well there's CIA there's Vatican CIA Vatican CIA Then there's the other bad guys, but then Mayflowers.

30:32The Mayflowers. So I guess that's just three. Well, then the problem really was that they, at various times, were teaming up and were double-crossing each other. Against each other, yeah. So that was what was confusing to me. Right, like Kit Kat was double-crossing. Who? Kit Kat. Caruso? No, the Mayflowers killed him. Yeah, right, because he was... Danny Aiello was double-crossing, but then he wasn't double-crossing. But I thought Kit Kat was... Kit Kat himself? These are words we're saying out loud. I thought Kit Kat was... I thought Kit Kat was... They found out that he was double-crossing the Mayflowers.

31:06The Mayflowers found that out. No, the Mayflowers just decided to kill the CIA team. They also shot the Butterfinger. Oh, boy. What am I talking about? They're almond joy. Snickers. They killed Snickers. You know, like, they decided... And then they say, why are you killing them? And she says, we're greedy or something to that effect? More like, she basically says, we want it all for ourselves. Oh, gosh. Don't try to make sense of the plot. because I don't think that they even did that service. And Kit Kat, his dying words written on a note were, I always liked you. Shown to Andy McDowell. But she had prepared, so I guess he knew he was a statue.

31:37He knew he was dressed as a statue. Well, here's... Dressed as a statue. That's not the way to go. You don't want to go out dressed as a statue. What the fuck was that? I once heard Bruce Willis in an interview say the reason why people like Die Hard is because of the New Jersey comedy. What? What? Yes, he said the reason why people connect to that movie is because they like seeing a guy from New Jersey cracking wise. Oh, this is what happened. This is why we got this movie. And this is why we got a movie where literally a guy gets his head cut off and the line that Bruce Willis says is— I know it, I know it.

32:09I guess we won't see him at the hat convention in July. Yeah, I guess we won't see that guy attending the hat convention in July. Which makes me think there is a real hat convention. By the way, it would not surprise me if Bruce Willis was a guy who goes to hat conventions. But by the way, come on. This is a guy losing his head. There's a million jokes. Like, oh, I guess he lost his head. There's also one where he says, how's my driving? 1-800-000. Oh, that's the line I was just trying to look for. That's my favorite scene. That was. That scene is amazing. He says, wait a second. He says that line.

32:43Bruce Willis is that. Right after a car pulls up next to him. Bruce Willis. Yes, it's my favorite line. Bruce Willis has fallen out of. He's in an ambulance. Connected only by a long ship. He's got a gurney on wheels, connected by a bed sheet to the ambulance, going over the bridge. The bridge, yeah. The Verrazano Bridge, or like a big New York bridge. Anyway, and he's careening all over the place, and a convertible pulls up next to him, and some pretty girls go, Hey, mister, are you going to die? Like, that's what they say. Like, so, like, ha, ha, ha. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy. This man is bleeding from a, yeah.

33:18This is, you are going to watch someone die. And then he says, the line, you just said, how am I driving? 1-800-I'm going to die. And then he goes to a toll booth. And pulls out exact change. The exact change, the cigarette that a woman tosses out of her window, she catches and says, oh, menthol? Yes. Are you kidding me? Great joke. This is my favorite scene in the movie. That is my favorite scene. And then there's all these, I guess to me it's like, all right, I buy that scene because that scene at least felt like it was tonally appropriate. They made a choice. But the rest of the movie doesn't go that way.

33:50But then you have these moments where it's like you pass by some security guards and he's like, hey, can you believe it? There's so many Wongs in the phone book. And he goes, oh, so many Wong numbers. And then he goes, look up chin. That's it. These are like jokes that people make at a cigar club. And they're like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny. That's funny. And it's like, oh, yeah. Well, when they're eating pasta in Italy, they're putting a thermos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's a joke that I wasn't clear on what was the point of this. When James Coburn, who's the bad guy CIA agent, he's all mad and he goes, I can't remember what he says, but then he goes, we blow up space shuttles for breakfast.

34:33I was like, well, man. I'm going to use that one. Hey, man, that's not cool. That was too soon. Too soon, bro. Like, what are you talking about? So, wait, you guys blew up the space shuttle? Yeah. That's true. It's only been at that point a couple of years since I'm looking right now. McCullough. That was in 1986. So that was like only five years, five or six years older. Way too soon. Guys, too soon for this movie. Not cool. Not cool, guys. Although I do like that line. It's a good line. I did think that was a bold one. I mentioned in the opening, Bruce Willis does have five earrings. Oh, yeah.

35:03Like a pirate, which was a very interesting choice. I thought that the - He can't get a cup of coffee to save his life. Cappuccino. That is a real running gag. All he wants is a cappuccino. So again, making the character super accessible. He's a safe cracker with a heart of gold who only wants a cappuccino, but he gets pulled into an elaborate alchemy plot. There she is. Oh, sorry. Please, go ahead. Sorry. Please continue. I was looking at my notes and I just saw something. I want to talk about the relationship between him and Andy McDowell, two scenes in particular. One, Andy McDowell's genuine amusement at this guy.

35:40He flies off of a building, lands in a chair. Again, I buy the Looney Tunes aspect of that. Coughs out feathers, like full on like. Like he's a clown. Like he's a clown. And Annie McDowell sits there like. Charmed. Charmed. Charmed. And they're there for like all of. A guy comes up and he goes, what do you want? And he goes, sir, I'm the waiter. And he goes, okay, I guess you are. And oh, they order and he wants ketchup for his pasta. Well, that's the other thing too. There's a thing about like Italian food being bad. Like it's like, I want ketchup. No, no, no. you're in Italy and you're Italian and you're from New Jersey.

36:14Like this shouldn't, you should be wonderful for you. You've been in jail for 10 years and you, and you want a cappuccino. You have a refined taste. You don't want ketchup. Also ketchup and a cappuccino. You can't want both things. Yeah. And then cut to kick, not kick up a Butterfinger, the big doofy guy who's like steak burger. Give me a steak. Okay. The one joke I really laughed at with Butterfingers was when he was in the back of the car there. I think they're not sneaking out the restroom, but someplace. And he's saying something. And the guy in front of him goes, here, just read a book. Read your book.

36:49Read your book. And then he starts reading a children's book. He starts reading green eggs in him. Yeah. He starts reading green eggs in him. I did laugh out loud. And they go, to yourself. He's like, I felt bad for him. Yeah, I felt bad for him. Yeah, he was a real dummy. He was a real dummy. Just for the fans of the show, I think this is interesting to mention that. The screenplay was a How Did This Get Made all-star mashup. It was written by Steven D'Souza, who wrote Street Fighter. Amazing. And Judge Dredd. And also co-written by Daniel Waters, who wrote Demolition Man and Batman Returns. Oh, my God.

37:23So these guys were... Heavy hitters. Yeah, really heavy hitters. Did anyone else notice that at the Vatican in the postal subway, there was a cross that had been packaged and was just behind them at one point when Andy McDowell is walking through the subway? No. There's a giant, like a crucifix that's just in brown UPS packaging. So weird. Well, how else are you going to move them? I mean, I guess. How else do you move across? I guess now that we know that Andy McDowell is a nun, I can answer this question. But Andy McDowell gives him a shirtless massage. And he goes to kiss. I thought this was post-coital.

37:57I thought they had sex. And they were in bed because he's, I guess, just shirtless. and she's rubbing his back and asking about his tattoos, blah, blah, blah. And she is wearing all of her clothes. Every single one. And I was like, are they done? What is it? And they go to kiss and she goes, I can't do this. Wait, wait, wait. But you can give a guy a shirtless back. I mean, it was very sexual, but now we know why. What I was confused about is what exactly her plan was. Like, what was she trying? She was seducing him. She already knew what he was going to do. She wanted to stop him from stealing the codex because they need to protect it.

38:32But did she ever really try to do that? No. Yeah, she was trying to get close to him to figure out his plan, but then she realized he was just being used. He's a nice guy. Because the Vatican thought he was the threat. Right, but he was being forced to do this or he'd go back to jail. Or they'd kill his Danny Aiello, et cetera. It was actually supposed to be Isabella Rossellini in that role, by the way. Yes, it was. That was something I read. And Annie McDowell. Oh. Yes. Because she's like a southern girl. Annie McDowell is not an Italian. She's gorgeous. She was actually the third choice. It was Isabella Rosalina who was originally cast.

39:04And then they recast Marusha Detmers. But then she had to leave because she had back problems. And then they brought in Annie McDowell. Now, I will bring up this one disturbing moment. I don't know if any of you caught it. But the Butterfinger, the big, messy, that guy, goes. I know what you're talking about. There's a moment where they're spying on them. And they're trying to come up with what their plan is. And he writes, should we rape them? He says, okay, roughly that. Why do we have to do this in movies? Early 90s, why do we have to do this in movies? Can I ask you, this is when they then say, read your book.

39:41It's the same scene. It's the same scene. Now, okay, I really struggled with this because I was like, did he really just say, should I rape her? Yes. No, them. Them. He did say them. Them. So that's helpful. That makes me feel better. Does it? Does he? Yeah, he's a monster. He will rape anything. Yes, he will rape anybody. I'm willing to bet he's saying something else, but that we heard. Is it possible? No. Oh, that it got dubbed? No, no, no, no. What else could he have said that that's the better version? I don't know. No, because I couldn't make heads or tails out of that. I'll tell you what it was.

40:19It was just a heightening. Like, this guy is a complete animal. Even though he's reading a children's book. And so like the idea being like our next move here strategically might be just me raping them. Because for what purpose? I think this is a question he asks a lot. Every mission.

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44:58So that's a little sense of what they are. Bombastic, crazy characters playing tennis indoors. That's how you show people are crazy. And I don't, again, know exactly what their plan is to control the world. World domination, he says. World domination. Richard E. Grant did write in his book, With Nails, that this movie was just replotted during the actual days of filming. Wow. Yes. That's cool. Yes. So, I mean, any thoughts on these people? I like their dogs a lot. I enjoyed them. I enjoyed their performances. I really enjoyed Sandra Bernhardt. Amazing. So good. Really, really good. I couldn't take my eyes off of them.

45:37Both of them, I thought, were terrific. Like, they were just chewing the scenery. I feel like they were also on tone. Like, they were like, okay, this is what it is. It's as if in Dan Aykroyd's Terrible Movie, Nothing But Trouble, the Brazilians were the villains of the movie. That's what it's like. Remember the Brazilians? Yes. The brother and sister. They were just incredibly bombastic characters. Sexual, weirdly sexual. Weirdly sexual, really weirdos. And I enjoyed it. I thought that they are the saving grace. What I didn't enjoy was that dog. The dog was, I didn't like the dog rooting around and Bruce Willis' crotch.

46:18I was like, come on, do we really? And then the fact that they threw the dog out the window at the end. Well, the dog was trying to attack Andy McDowell. What are you going to do? Yeah, they, and there was, you know, the dog had it coming, to be honest. The dog was evil. At the end, you could tell the dog, like, wanted, the dog seemed actually more evil than either of its owners. Well, that's, I was going to say, did anybody else think that the dog was the boss of them? Yes. Like, they were just probably doing the dog's bidding. They're like the son of Sam. I love that first time you see Sandra Bernhardt.

46:44Like he was the big evil? Yeah, he's the big guy. That she's just thinking, I've got the power. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was good. Sitting on a conference table. Wait, what was that a conference table of? Because there was a small Indian boy. A lot of ethnicities. A lot of ethnicities happening. Was this the Legion of Doom or something like that? Were they all bad guys?

47:07Jason Mantzoukas:I don't think so. They were working for a company. Their company was at M Corporation or whatever. Yeah, but that's like one of them was a child. One of the people at that table was a child. You don't get it, Jason. You don't get the comedy of it. It's funny. That's not like some Temple of Doom stuff. You know what? Yeah, the Maharaja guy, yeah. I think you need to hear Bruce Willis explain why you don't get the jokes here. Can you play that clip of Bruce Willis talking about this movie? Oh, jeez. There's a half an hour interview about Bruce Willis defending this movie on YouTube in three parts.

47:35Bruce Willis talks Hudson Hawk. You'll find it. Here we go. Here's a clip.

47:42Jason Mantzoukas:You know, looking at how it kind of became this cult film, and what people come up and say to me on the street about it is... Take your time, Bruce. They dig the fact that it was making fun of itself, and that it was satire. And I don't think anybody got that when it came out. They didn't know what to make of it. But, you know, me and Danny Aiello singing in a movie was just unheard of. Is that satire? Is that considered satire? They were mad that we were trying to make them laugh. He's Tommy Wissowing this. He's rewriting history. This is riveting. It's amazing. The interview itself is amazing.

48:28But blaming people for not getting satire. But then hearing him say that satire is him and Danny Aiello singing. That's not satire. I don't understand. He made this earnestly. He didn't make this. He thought this was going to be fucking. Indiana Jones. He thought this was going to be like. His James Bond or his man Flint or Austin Powers or whatever. I think he was like, this is going to be Die Hard plus. Yeah. You know, it's going to be the action and the adventure of Die Hard, but with better jokes. New Jersey humor. And more like swashbuckle. The jokes are so slapstick. Just by the way. Yes.

49:01Just if you're wondering what the definition of satire is, I will tell you that. Oh, hello. The use of humor to ridicule, expose, or criticize people's stupidity of vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics. I've actually never heard that definition. So that, I mean, you know, so I don't know if that movie falls into that, the alchemy. He really took down the alchemy committee. But the movie's original catchphrase was catch the excitement, catch the adventure, catch the hawk. But when they realized it wasn't really an action movie, they changed it for the home video release, which was catch the excitement, catch the laughter, catch the hawk.

49:33That's very telling. Yeah, they knew. They were like, we got to figure out some other way to package this thing. This is not working out. Bruce Willis does not. Bruce Willis gets so defensive on this movie when you hear he goes, people criticize this movie. I have so much money. I could just sit by a lake and skip stones. What do I care? That's his response. That's funny to me. His response is like, no, no, we tried something. He's like, fuck you. I don't need it. I don't need you to like anything. I'm rich. I did this for me. I didn't even do this for you. I'm rich as shit. Which he is. I was actually, I was looking at his IMDb.

50:05That man has been working forever. He has so much money. So much money. I also, I do think probably this falls into the category that we are now, like, I hate to say it again, but Toysing. I'll bring up Toys again. I believe this to be a project that because of his power, box office power, Bruce Willis was able to get this movie made. Oh, absolutely. You know, this was a passion project for Bruce Willis. Not like, they didn't, he wrote this movie. It is built for him. With a budget of$70 million in 1991. Wow. It brought in a total of$17 million. Which is, I mean, that's some money. It didn't, oh, I guess it definitely bombed.

50:45I mean, this is one of those movies that is a bomb that you forget about. Like, people talk about Ishtar. Oh, yeah. But they don't talk about Hudson Hawk. I mean, and I was excited. I remember seeing this and knowing that Bruce Willis was in a movie. I was like, oh, it's going to be great. It's going to be like acting. And it looked awesome. Yeah. You know, this was an era when, like, between, like, Die Hard and Indiana Jones, but also like a time when like Romancing the Stone was a big movie to me. Yeah, that movie. And that movie is amazing. Like a real adventure romance. Oh, it's so fun. And this had that, like that's why I went to a date.

51:14You know, I took a date to this because it looked like it was going to be awesome, the way Romancing the Stone was. Yeah. And instead it was worse than Romancing the Stone 2. Oh. Jewel of the Nile. I like Jewel of the Nile. We haven't even talked about Andy McDowell's Dolphin. I was just going to say that. The Dolphin sounds were amazing. I don't, and I remember looking away for a minute and then looking back at the movie and going, wait, what is she doing? What is she doing? She was doing voices. She was doing shtick. She was like, they were like, they double crossed her or whatever. And then she was like, I'm not a, you think I'm a damsel in distress.

51:46And then she goes, you know, I can't pay the rent. You must pay the rent. I can't pay the rent. Eee, eee, eee, eee. And like started doing like dolphin noise. Was she trying to intimidate them or freak them out? She was just trying to show them that she wasn't scared of them, I think, was the bit. that she could do bits. No, no, no. She was under some sort of drug, right? But the drug was too... No, that's what they were saying, that she must still be coming off of the... I thought she was. The paralyzing drug? Yeah, but that wasn't... No, that had to be it. That was not a side effect of the drug because Bruce Willis and Danny Ayo had never experienced that.

52:16Well, they were being just as silly as they always are. Come on. Well, they're guys from New Jersey. Just a couple of pies on. By the way, to see Andy McDowell do those dolphin noises, I mean, I didn't know what to do with that. So you were won over by that performance, the dolphin noises. I didn't know she had that in her. Let me ask you a question. Isabella Rossellini because she had done those dolphin noises. That's a great question. That's a great question. She would have sold it a bit more. I think so. I mean like Blue Velvet era Isabella Rossellini. By the way, I know we already talked about it, but I'm going to say it again.

52:45She plays an Italian nun? Italian nun. That's crazy. I didn't even really put that all together. But she's American. No, no, no. She's not playing Italian. She's not playing Italian. Yeah, she's American. But she should be Italian, right? Yes, she should be Italian. Sure. I'm sure if Isabella Rossellini had played it, she would have been a native Italian. Yeah, that would have made sense. We want to talk about Frank Stallone, who was part of the Mario Brothers. The Mario Brothers, amazing Frank Stallone. Give it up for Frank Stallone. More clap. This is like when they play the old Howard Stern tapes and everybody's clapping for no good reason.

53:20I like a good clap. They make some subtle digs at Stallone, too. Sly Stallone. We have a clip of that. we're gonna just play a clip of Frank's one. There's a quick one here. There's a safe on the seventh floor. You take their thingy and you put it in this thing. Directions even your brother could understand. Oh, shots fired. Little did he know that they'd be opening a plan in Hollywood just months later. Oh, wait, but he's talking about the brother that's sitting right next to him. But we all know. By the way, the beginning of the movie, like he's gonna eat a drink, a cappuccino, and a guy pulls out a gun in the middle of a crowded restaurant, shoots a cappuccino glass.

53:56No one moves. No one moves. And he's out there with a gun. Yeah. Not hidden. The bullet, the gun has a silencer. Yes. Yeah. So it's like, you know, but like every, it's a crowded bar and nobody flinches. Nobody seems to notice. And then Danny Aiello hits a guy in the head with a wine bottle a few minutes later, shatters and people, like two people look over. Yeah. This is where this movie. It's a weird bar that they own. You know what? Fuck this movie. Obviously we had an opinion about this movie, but there are certain people who have a better opinion. Now it's time for five star reviews from Amazon.

54:27Second opinion, second opinion. They're not your first, but they're gonna be your second. These are five-star reviews. You guys can comment on these as you see fit. Here we go. This is titled, For a True Movie Fan. I've probably watched this movie round a hundred times, and I can practically quote it round. A hundred times? Mm-hmm. Is there an apostrophe before round? Yes. Okay. I think my mom wrote this review. Around 100 times and can practically quote it from start to finish. I certainly wouldn't have done that if this movie was bad. Oh, my God. Five stars. Oh, my God. Anyway, I do agree with you, Jason, though.

55:10Like, the apostrophe. What's the point? It's one letter. One letter. One letter. You've already done it. Taking the place of that apostrophe. Yes. There is the same number of characters in that word. Yeah. Yes. Here's another one. Boom. And the colloquialism of it, the casualness of it, it doesn't matter. That word doesn't matter. And I know I'm sure I used colloquialism wrong, so everybody shut the fuck up. Shout out. Everyone shout it. Everybody relax. You're going to get you. Stop saying I look like Da Vinci. This one is titled, boom, side by side, boom. You'll be rolling on the floor laughing, but be careful and not die laughing too hard.

55:49What? Did Danny Aiello write that? That was a five-star review. I have had some experiences with side-by-sides. I just want to say that. Bruce is a riot. I'm worried about it. This is what I get. A lot of the Hudson Hawk reviews attack critics for being bad. So this one goes, I think movie reviewers underappreciate a good comedy. Most are stuffy, overweight, undereducated film study dorks. Uh-oh. I agree with that. I agree with the first sentence of that for sure. Yeah, they don't appreciate comedies. They don't appreciate comedies. Yeah. Who are these critics? Who cares? These are the same critics that think that Gandhi is one of the best things to happen to film, which just goes to show you what they know.

56:31This movie is about fun and entertainment and not meant to be scrutinized, analyzed, or otherwise-ized. Watch and enjoy. Five stars. Oh, I love that guy. And this is my favorite review of all time by Yellow Defender. I thought the storyline was great. It was a little boring, but it kept me on my toes. My favorite parts were when the dog bunny goes flying out the window, and when Bruce gets out of jail and throws the key into the mop thing, and he adjusts his hat. He had me try cappuccino, too, and it's pretty good. I think this is one of Bruce's best movies, even if he doesn't think so. So he turned him on to cappuccinos.

57:10That's huge. One of his favorite parts was the head? When he adjusts his head. This is also, again, another non-joke joke. Bruce Willis steals a guy's keys and then tosses his keys in a dirty mop bucket. He's like, hey. Just as a hat. It's a cool guy. It's a non-moment. It's a non-moment moment. But it's also like, he's so cool. Hudson Hawk is so cool. That's what I think this guy was responding to. He does it to his hat. He drinks cappuccinos. He throws dogs out of a window. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think he definitely appeals to the, I want to hang out and have a beer with that guy. Which he does that in his other movies that are better also.

57:49Oh, yeah. This movie is terrible. He's great in a million movies. Die Hard? Are you kidding me? We think that Danny Aiello has died in this movie, only to realize that he has come back. And we want to just play Danny Aiello's comeback moment. Here we go. No way! Yes way! Did I miss anything? Did you miss anything? You're supposed to be all crashing up at the bottom of the hill. Can you fucking believe it? You're supposed to be blown up into fire each other. Sprinkler system set up in a back. Can you fucking believe it? Yeah. That's probably what happened. Drink a cappuccino. Hey, drink a coffee.

58:33He gets his cappuccino. Oh, thank God. And a moment before he gets his girl to play Nintendo with him. She agrees to play Nintendo with him. They play the Hudson Hawk game. Danny Aiello pulls up to that scene riding a donkey. I just want to say, he is just riding the donkey into town. Because they have also just flown in Da Vinci's original flying machine. Which still works and was not updated at all. What? Yeah. It's amazing. I love that scene of them, the two of them just having a blast. I like to think of that day of filming that they were like, all right, just get on my back. It did look like fun.

59:09But that's the one thing I do feel like the two of them were like, there's a scene in the movie where they just both grab their balls when they hear an explosion. Like, oh! It's like, I feel like they're like, yeah, we'll do this, and this is good. Little moments. Or how about like when they're hanging off the side of a castle. They've somehow, he and Danny Aiello have scaled a castle. They are hanging off the edge. They're luring the guards to come so they can punch them out. And Bruce Willis goes, hey, how do I look? And he goes, what are we going to do with this right now? I just want to know, how do I look?

59:39What are you talking about? We're hanging off the edge of a castle here. You're asking me, how do I look? And then the guards come up in and they're like, punch, punch. You look pretty good. You look pretty good. That's the kind of bullshit this movie is full of. It's like if the guys who hung around Tony Soprano wrote a movie. This is Christopher's movie. This is Christopher. If you told me Christopher Moltisanti wrote this movie, I would be like, okay, I get it. And it's not that bad. Then also, they make a lot about, the one thing I want to say just before we wrap up, too, if you have any final points, but they make a big deal about Danny Aiello being fat.

1:00:12I was about to say that too. He's not that fat. Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Bruce Willis, his figure is also not the slender figure of like a thief or a cat burglar. That's true. He's not graceful or flinky. Just for the listeners, June is doing cat-like motions with her hands. Like a cat burglar. Like a cat, like rear, rear, rear. I'm going to rob you. Meow. Guess what? You consider yourself robbed. You'd be a great cat burglar. Would you like to be in undercover as a cat burglar that robs a church? You know what? I'm going to need to see you in the habit. I'm going to need to see you in the habit.

1:00:49No, no, no. She's the burglar. She's the enemy. Oh, God. Oh, no, but the nun has to go undercover. As a cat burglar? As a cat burglar. There's a lot of double sizes. Or is it a cat burglar that goes undercover as a nun? Guys, I want to assure everybody, this will be not even remotely similar to Sister Act. Not even remotely similar. It'll have moments of miscongeniality, I think, in thematic. Possibly, possibly. What's the basic premise of Sister Act? Sister Act is she witnesses a murder and has to go hide out in a convent. She's a soul singer. Will it be anything like nuns? But that is all about getting the convent to sing.

1:01:27Yes, exactly, exactly. Will it be anything like nuns on the run? No, it won't be like nuns on the run. Who did nuns on the run? Irish guy and somebody else. Irish guy and the other one. Oh, yes, that one. I'm sorry. Irish guy and the other one. Eric Idle and Robbie Coltrane. That's right. Any final thoughts? Anybody have any final thoughts? Go see it. Five stars. Yeah, would you guys see it? I would recommend you should watch it maybe. It's a fun party movie. I think it's a fun party movie. It's crazy enough. There's crazy enough moments in it. Watch it, but be willing to fast forward. Absolutely.

1:02:03Because who cares? It is definitely. Definitely watch all the Richard E. Grant, Sandra Bernard stuff. Oh, my gosh. That shit's awesome. And I will say I watched most of it, but the three-part interview series with Bruce Willis and Robert Kraft as they sit around. And Bruce Willis just goes into getting very defensive about the movie and explaining the movie and talking about the song. They play the song. They sing the song. It's a three-part thing on YouTube. Bruce Willis talks Hudson Hawk. I think you will enjoy it. I think I won't. I think you will love it. so alright so just once again Emily your podcast is on the Nerdist channel they can get it the Indoor Kids it's you and Kamal it's awesome I've done it it's great you should do the Hudson Hawk game maybe we should do a crossover that would be fun I gotta track it down have you guys ever done the movie to video game we have we have done and actually that one didn't come up in the episode that we did but we did a lot of like the Godzilla games that have come out like a lot of the E.T.

1:03:00one that new Godzilla trailer is fucking awesome I haven't seen it yet. I'm pretty excited. It's fucking awesome. I'm saving it. It's just like Oppenheimer talking about like the. It's really neat. Yes. All right. Cool. If you are looking at pictures of me from this podcast, you'll notice I have a mustache. It's because I just came from the Arsenio Hall show where I just played Archerio Paul. That happened already, but I'm sure you can find me as Archerio Paul on Arsenio Hall's website or anywhere else. So definitely check that out. You can follow me at Paul Shear on Twitter. Oh, and what do you do?

1:03:33I'm at TheGynamite. Oh, yeah. That's right. I'm at MissMSJuneDiane. Jason, just checking in on your Twitter. Yeah, yeah. No, not on Twitter, guys. Okay, great. Still not on Twitter. Not on Twitter. You know what? It's good. You probably have more time to do stuff in your day. So much time. So much jerking off. Undercover. I've got to write an undercover now. Thank God I'm not on Twitter. Thank God I'm not on Twitter because now I have time to write an undercover. So I do actually want to plug my upcoming film project, Nundercover. Because by the time this airs, I suspect I will have already sold it.

1:04:08Oh, maybe look on Kickstarter. Maybe I should Kickstarter Nundercover. I would get behind it. I would tweet that link out. And you should get the Twitter account for Nundercover. I'm sure nobody's going to do it. Yeah, get this by the website. I've got to get it before this comes out. Set up your website. I've got to do all this before this episode drops. Shit. You've got some time. You've got some time. And also a big thanks to everyone who helps us out here at the show. Our lead engineer, Frank Capella. Thank you so much, Frank. You're always amazing. And our clip puller, who's always suggesting great stuff, Avril Halley.

1:04:40And Nate Kiley, who's doing all of our research. He's amazing. And the fantastic Katie Dyer, who does our Twitter account.

1:04:48Jason Mantzoukas:You can follow us on Twitter always at at HDTGM. She also does our Facebook page. Leanna Waldron does all of our cool art. Check us out in the Earwolf store. We got cups. We got new shirts. Do it. Guys, we did it. Hudson Hawk. We caught the adventure. We caught the hawk. We caught the laughter for sure. Thank you so much for joining us, Emily. We'll talk to you later. Bye-bye.

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Emily Gordon (The Big Sick) joins Paul, June, and Jason to discuss the 1991 comedy Hudson Hawk starring Bruce Willis wearing 5 earrings, Andie MacDowell, and Danny Aiello. The crew cover all the candy bar-named bad guys, Bruce's cappuccino obsession, all the Nintendo references, the burglary duets, and so much more. Plus, they start writing the future blockbuster movie NUNDERCOVER, and you better believe that busting crimes is this nun's habit. (Originally Released 12/03/2013)

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