Last Looks: Expend4bles w/ Jack McBrayer & David Wain

1 Aug 2025 · 39 min · 28 chapters

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In short

The “Last Looks” wrap-up for Expendables 4, featuring listener corrections/omissions, a deleted-scene discussion, and a “lost Sylvester Stallone podcast” bit that pivots to interviews with Jack McBrayer and David Wayne. It also includes tangents about related media (video games, taglines) and announces next week’s movie, Driven (2001).

Guests (in this episode’s segments)

Jack McBrayer (actor/comedian; interviewed via the “Sylvester Stallone podcast” framing) and David Wayne (writer/actor/director; interviewed as “David Wayne podcast,” formerly Jack McBrayer/Sylvester Stallone podcasts).

Key claims

The film’s plot hinges on an implausible prisoner exchange memo to save the Expendables; Charisma Carpenter’s character disappears after earlier installments; Statham’s facial hair is questioned; and the episode argues for “justice for Charisma Carpenter.”

Notable examples

Deleted scene about Statham’s relationship/pregnancy breakup; YouTube “Second Opinions” on 50 Cent Bulletproof; listener tagline suggestions for Expendables 4.

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Chapters

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Minions and Wi-Fi

0:00 to 0:27

A humorous exchange about unexpected guests using Wi-Fi.

“Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity?”

Venmo and Dinner Plans

0:51 to 1:41

A lighthearted conversation about splitting a dinner bill.

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Listener Contributions and Corrections

2:22 to 3:21

Acknowledging listener feedback and introducing episode content.

“a movie that Discord user Corgi Herder thinks should have had the tagline, Expendables 4, covering more senior citizens' health insurance through SAG-AFTRA than the VA.”

Upcoming Movies and Recommendations

3:21 to 4:38

Hosts share upcoming movie recommendations and shoutouts.

“We'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on Expendables 4, and I'll be playing an exclusive deleted scene from the episode.”

Support for Avril Halley

4:38 to 5:08

A segment expressing support for a producer's recovery journey.

Setting Up Expendables 4 Discussion

5:08 to 5:52

Teasing the main discussion about Expendables 4 and what to expect.

“If you left with any questions, don't worry, because by the end of this episode, you will be like, Paul, I know what's up.”

Corrections and Omissions from Expendables 4

5:52 to 6:41

Discussion of listener corrections regarding the movie's plot.

“Thank you, Anyhow Blues, for that theme song.”

Marveling at Plot Holes

6:41 to 8:17

Analyzing plot inconsistencies in Expendables 4 and related films.

“I don't believe they are called the expendables.”

Jean-Claude Van Johnson Commentary

8:17 to 9:03

Discussion on a Jean-Claude Van Damme series and its relevance.

“when he suggested playing his twin brother, which I'd say would have been an amazing decision.”

Surprise Call from Sylvester Stallone

9:03 to 10:44

A surprising caller shares thoughts on the podcast and movies.

“This is an older show, as a matter of fact.”
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Justice for Charisma Carpenter

10:44 to 11:27

Fans discuss the absence of Charisma Carpenter in the Expendables series.

“I would say the only note to that Stallone is, uh, I would say it, it doesn't matter how many Razzies you get, but you got to keep on getting up to get those Oscars.”

Future of the Expendables Franchise

11:27 to 14:01

Speculating on potential future reboots and casting choices.

“George Glass writes, so I decided to watch all four of these, because I couldn't just hop in at the fourth one, and this was my biggest gripe.”

Casting Alternatives for Expend4bles

14:01 to 15:50

Discussion about potential cast members for a future reboot of Expend4bles.

“And I'm like, for the amount that Megan is in this movie, maybe Charisma couldn't do all those stuff.”

Video Game Tangents: 50 Cent Bulletproof

15:51 to 18:06

Exploration of the 50 Cent video game and reactions to its YouTube trailer.

“Okay, now the video game that Paul was talking about in the episode was called Def Jam Vendetta, which was basically Mortal Kombat with rappers.”

Corrections and Accolades

18:07 to 19:27

Recognition of listener feedback about Charisma Carpenter and their impact.

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Upcoming Guests and Announcements

19:28 to 19:56

Preview of future guests and movies to be discussed on the podcast.

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Upcoming Guests and Announcements

21:03 to 22:01

Preview of future guests and movies to be discussed on the podcast.

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Upcoming Guests and Announcements

22:15 to 23:17

Preview of future guests and movies to be discussed on the podcast.

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Classic Episode Re-Releases

23:26 to 24:01

Reminders about re-released classic episodes and their significance.

“All right, everybody, I hope you're checking out classic How Did This Get Made episodes that are being re-released into your feed every Tuesday.”

Mom's Advice on Podcasting

24:02 to 28:01

A heartfelt conversation with Paul's mom about his struggles in podcasting.

“on our previous last looks you heard how stallone agreed to guest on my podcast but cup on standing me up for every episode so does sly ever show up let's find out Hello?”

Jack McBrayer Podcast Host Introduction

28:01 to 33:15

Learn about the dynamics of podcast guest selection and celebrity interactions.

“Hey, Jack McBrayer, you are on the Jack McBrayer podcast.”

David Wain Joins the Podcast

33:15 to 33:38

David Wain discusses his journey and thoughts on his podcasting experience.

“Welcome to the David Wayne podcast, formerly the Jack McBrayer podcast, formerly the Sylvester Sloan podcast.”

David Wain's Family Dynamics

33:38 to 37:10

Explore David's family life and his feelings about Thanksgiving plans.

“And I'm just really thrilled for the community of listeners and the world out there that they get a chance to hear what I have to say.”

Reflections on Thanksgiving

37:10 to 41:31

Paul Scheer reflects on Thanksgiving, celebrity life, and personal gratitude.

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Reflections on Thanksgiving

42:01 to 42:33

Paul Scheer reflects on Thanksgiving, celebrity life, and personal gratitude.

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Reflections on Thanksgiving

44:56 to 45:09

Paul Scheer reflects on Thanksgiving, celebrity life, and personal gratitude.

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Movie Announcement and Recap

45:09 to 47:00

Join the hosts as they announce the next movie and recap previous discussions.

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Movie Announcement and Recap

47:20 to 48:26

Join the hosts as they announce the next movie and recap previous discussions.

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Transcript

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0:00Honey, did you invite the Minions over? Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity? Yeah. I ordered it this morning. It was online in minutes. Then, they showed up. So they just came over to use the Wi-Fi? For what?

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1:00Auto Pacific Segmentation, 2026 Frontier versus latest in market competitors in the midsize truck class. Base models compared based on manufacturers' websites. How do you want to split it? Actually, dinner's on me. Okay, big money. Well, I got a Venmo balance that I can spend with my Venmo debit MasterCard, so. Well, I Venmo'd you three times last week, so it's kind of on me, actually. Yeah, you send it, I spend it. Did my money get, like, reincarnated? Yeah, it was chicken shawarma. Want it back? I can't believe you like ate my Venmo. Spend your balance instantly with the Venmo debit card. No monthly fee or minimum balance.

1:36Venmo balance account required to get a card and use a balance. The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp Bank N.A. Stallone calls, Jack McBrayer visits, and we give Charisma Carpenter a little bit of justice. All this and more on today's Last Looks. Hit the theme!

1:55How did this get made? I don't know. How did this get made? I told you, I don't know. How did this get made? I don't know. How did this get made? I don't know. I just know, you know? Hello, all you Salesforce employees. And we still don't know what your company does, but we appreciate you nonetheless. I am your men's studies class professor, Paul Scheer, and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Less Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Expendables 4, a movie that Discord user Corgi Herder thinks should have had the tagline, Expendables 4, covering more senior citizens' health insurance through SAG-AFTRA than the VA.

2:37Thank you, Corgi Herder, for that. That's pretty good. Alt movie tagline and a big shout out to John Cohen for his Stallone summer opening song. I know, John, you've separated from your brother and no longer are you the Cohen brothers. so I really appreciate this solo song on your own behalf. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm. And if you have a Last Looks theme, maybe an episode theme song, you can go to hdtgm and click on Submit a Song right there. Just click right there, and you can just upload your song to our Dropbox.

3:18Keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. Now, coming up on today's episode, We'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on Expendables 4, and I'll be playing an exclusive deleted scene from the episode. That's right. More content. Plus, I'll be sharing more of my lost Sylvester Stallone podcast featuring guests like Jack McBrayer, David Wayne, and even my own mom. And as always, at the end of the show, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. Just a heads up, on August 8th, you can catch June on the big screen in both Freakier Friday and Weapons. So get your butts to the movie theater.

3:59Weapons is fantastic. You will love it. I also want to give a shout out to my friends who made The Naked Gun. It is very, very funny. Apparently, according to Rotten Tomatoes, this is the best reviewed comedy or second best reviewed comedy in over a decade. So get yourself to the movies, people. Every Monday, the dark web is on YouTube. Absolutely for free. Me, Rob Hubel. And this week we talked about a cowboy who likes to give you sex tips. Pretty great. Anyway, our amazing movie producer, Avril Halley, is on the road to recovery with her brain cancer. the love the outpouring of just support that you've given her through snail mail at po box 641 agorahills california 91376 or through email at andrew at movie bitches dot xyz has been amazing if you want to keep it going she loves it we love it just want to thank you all for doing that for her and it's just amazing that her prognosis has been getting uh so much better um as we get into it, I want to just remind you that today we are going to figure out Expendables 4.

5:14If you left with any questions, don't worry, because by the end of this episode, you will be like, Paul, I know what's up. And you know what? Let's start it right now with a little corrections and omissions.

5:52Thank you, Anyhow Blues, for that theme song. Let's go to the Discord. Sean McBee, what do you got? Well, I'm going to read it. I think my biggest issue with this movie, other than every single minute of it being the dumbest thing I've ever seen is that the bad guy's plan hinges on capturing everyone and then convincing the government to do a prisoner exchange to save the team called the Expendables. Well, I don't know if their government calls them that. Timu Judy Dench should have said they're called the Expendables for a reason, asshole. But no, this is a world in which she had to send a memo requesting a prisoner exchange for a team explicitly used for their expendability.

6:38Now, Sean, I don't want to get into the nitty gritty. I don't believe they are called the expendables. Like, I don't know if they like go to the expendables headquarters. I think that they just put their mercenaries, right? They, you know, I hear what you're saying. I don't think that anyone in this world is saying, get your team of expendables. But you know what? As I say that, it probably is a line that there is in the movie. So you know what? You're right. Dr. Guts 1003 writes, why is a popular social media influencer putting an ad in a newspaper to find a new bodyguard? Dr. Guts, that's old man logic for you.

7:16That is some Stallone logic. Okay. I think he's still writing movies that take place in the early 80s. um arkham player writes did anyone see the photo in statham's locker of him and megan fox his facial hair is hilarious considering megan fox wasn't in the earlier movies and statham hasn't had facial hair in any of the movies why did this character decide to grow a questionable uh like goatee between movies three and four um i did not notice that i think in my mind i thought that he drew that mustache on himself but when you look at this picture you can see it on discord it It is straight up like, I don't know, magician who hasn't gotten a lot of work lately.

8:00There is something so bizarre about this thing. It just feels like something funny that happened on set, and they just took a picture and they put it up there. Anyway, let's go to the phone. Tristan, what do you got? In the Expendables 4 show, Jason said Jean-Claude does get it, but he doesn't get it, when he suggested playing his twin brother, which I'd say would have been an amazing decision. If you had never seen it, check out Jean-Claude Van Johnson, which is an Amazon Prime series where Jean-Claude Van Damme plays himself, a version of himself where his undercover identity is Jean-Claude Van Johnson.

8:42As he goes in and all of his movie shoots around the world have been cover stories for him to do some secret agent nonsense off on the side. And he 100 % gets it and is kind of poking fun of himself and his career in that. It's excellent. You should check it out if you haven't seen it. Thanks. Bye. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. I know about this show. This is an older show, as a matter of fact. And I'm a fan. uh directed by a friend peter tensio uh who i believe is related to the man who wrote the song for the haunted mansion where did that fact live in my brain anyway uh it is created by dave callahan who wrote expendables one and across the spider-verse uh and shang chi it's good it's really good uh our friend heather campbell also in that show uh you know heather from how did this get played, but now I think it's just called something else, like just get played.

9:41Love Heather. It's great. Okay, next call. Now, I can't verify this, but my producer Scott is telling me that this next call is from Sylvester Stallone himself. Let me hear. Hey, Paul, it's Sly. What's this I hear about my movies being covered on a bad movies podcast? A bad movies podcast? That's all right. That's all right. Let me tell you something you already know it's not about how many bad movies you make how many bad movies you make you keep moving forward how many oscars you make and keep moving forward that's how winning is done that's how expendables was made expendables four and five anyway there better be a summer still on unspooled that's all i gotta say about that bye paul okay now that i've heard it i gotta to say, I believe that is Sylvester Stallone.

10:42Wow. I am honored. I would say the only note to that Stallone is, uh, I would say it, it doesn't matter how many Razzies you get, but you got to keep on getting up to get those Oscars. That's the only note I would say that Stallone, but you know what? Stallone, a great writer. Uh, I appreciate him calling in. Thank you Stallone. Uh, I loves, wow. I'm honored. And I, you know, we will talk about doing a potential unspooled series. By the way, unspooled, we've been doing a lot of fun movies. We just did Naked Gun, a fun kind of breakdown of that film. We've done a lot of new, interesting films on that show, so check it out if you haven't heard it in a bit.

11:19But thank you, Sylvester Stallone, for calling in. I appreciate it. I hope you're not offended, and I know you're not, because you're just a cool dude. Anyway, back to the Discord. George Glass writes, so I decided to watch all four of these, because I couldn't just hop in at the fourth one, and this was my biggest gripe. justice for charisma carpenter she has a couple of scenes in the first one shows up in the second one where her character and statham get engaged and then she disappears never to be seen again and in the fourth one statham is just randomly dating megan fox what happened to charisma carpenter i did some sleuthing and it turns out they cut a scene in the second one where they break up but they never allude to it in the third or fourth movie she just disappeared now i know that I'm a big Buffy fan.

12:05We've talked about this. I'm a big angel fan. Um, I love Charisma Carpenter. We worked out at the same gym and I did everything within my power never to make eye contact or speak to her. Uh, cause I would have just completely geeked out. Um, but I remember seeing Expendables 1 and being like, damn, she's good. She should be in more stuff. And you're Right. Justice for Charisma Carpenter. Now, you know, we also normally in this show have like a little deleted scene. And this week we wanted to add one in because we did talk about Charisma Carpenter in the actual show. So take a listen to this and you can kind of see how her absence is even kind of more egregious.

12:51What's her name? What's your question? Oh, my name's Charlie. I was just going to say, I know, Jason, you haven't seen the other Expendable movies. You said you saw the first two, but Cordelia in the first one was in a relationship with Jason Statham, and Sylvester Stallone's like, you can't be in relationships and do this life. She's pregnant in the second one. He's a father in this one. Oh, no. I forgot about that. Oh, no. I'm surprised there was never a kid Expendables, like a kid's team. Well, by the way, I am in the Fast and Furious kids cartoon on Netflix. I love that. Not a joke. I am in one episode of it.

13:27He's a father. Well, that gives a lot of gravitas to him deciding to go down with the ship. He doesn't have even one thought about his offspring. So, yeah, not only did they break up, but they broke up when she was pregnant. No wonder they cut it out. OK, because it's like, yeah, that makes Statham a fucking asshole. Anyway, so weird. So weird. And you know what? This is said with love because I actually think Megan Fox is pretty great too. Jennifer's body, A+. I'm just bummed. I'm bummed. I'm excited we get Megan. But I'm also bummed we lose Charisma. And I'm like, for the amount that Megan is in this movie, maybe Charisma couldn't do all those stuff.

14:17I don't know. Somebody talk to Charisma. Find out what's going on. No, don't talk to her. That would be weird. Somebody talk to Statham and be like, what's up? why didn't you producers want to put her in? Maybe she asked for some more money and I bet you cheap fuckers were like, no. Anyway, uh, I, as a matter of fact, I guarantee it. I guarantee it. Uh, Corgi Herter writes, I got a question for Paul. Ooh, that's me. Uh, let's say the series is rebooted in 20 years. Who is your cast? Now be careful with ages because, uh, Vin Diesel would be 78 years old. Uh, Corgi Herter says I would go with Jason Momoa and Chris Hemsworth as the leads.

14:51I believe Hemsworth was in one of these anyway. Keanu Reeves as their stone-faced sniper. Jake Gyllenhaal is a crazy demolitions expert. John Cena as their stealth guy. Jason Statham in a small role to connect the franchise and villains. Tom Hardy and Michelle Rodriguez. I love it, but you're leaving out some good people. Frank Grillo. I think Frank Grillo could be in this. I think that John Cena could definitely be in this. You haven't talked about The Rock at all. Let's put The Rock in this. Oh, hell yeah. I also think when you're looking at this movie and you're thinking like, all right, who could do this kind of cool action?

15:30You know, we mentioned a lot of dudes. Obviously, Michelle Rodriguez is in there. Charlize Theron? I mean, wouldn't she be a fucking badass? Ana de Armas? I could see her in this. But if we want to even go one step further, Tom Cruise leads the team. It's like Mission Impossible, but old Mission Impossible. Anyway, let's go to Waterboy 2. Okay, now the video game that Paul was talking about in the episode was called Def Jam Vendetta, which was basically Mortal Kombat with rappers. Yes, thank you, Waterboy, for getting me. But Expendables team members, 50 Cent, also had his own video game called 50 Cent Bulletproof, where he's basically a superhero Neo James Bond.

16:11Not like a Neo James Bond, like a superhero slash Neo slash James Bond. Now, our producer Scott looked up the Metacritic user score for this video game. It is a 4.4 out of 10, of course, right? But we've noticed the YouTube comments on this trailer are overwhelmingly different. Yeah. So we're going to briefly interrupt corrections and omissions because now it's time for 50 Cent Bulletproof Second Opinions. What's mine is mine. What's yours is mine. I've run these streets. This whole city is mine. I never understand how people forget that. All right. The trailer for 50 Cent Bulletproof on YouTube has 758 ,000 views, 6 ,500 likes, and 446 positive comments.

17:07First up is a comment from 95BatmanLover. As a young kid, I honestly thought 50 Cent was a skilled mercenary like this in real life. You know, that is not too far off because we were taught as young people who love Steven Seagal that he was all these things too, not just like a karate teacher for rich dudes in Beverly Hills. Kid Gray, 3994 writes, this is one of the hardest clips ever. As a kid, my dream was to become a skilled killer like 50 Cent and gain respect around my whole city. I ended up with a minimum wage, nine to five, but thanks for the memories, Betty. Tev Dennis 11 writes, great times.

17:44I remember showing my mother this trailer, telling her how much I wanted this game. I still remember to this day when she saw 50 Cent shooting a guy hanging off the rooftop. She was like, oh my God, no, but still ended up buying it for me. Tev, that's a good mom. Adeloff 1 writes, before John Wick, we have 50 cent. You know, that's the thing. Like there was like that moment where there were a lot of biopics, but you know, I remember that like DMX did a movie with Jet Li. That was awesome. You know, I, and I feel like Fiddy had like his biopic movie, which is kind of a rip of the Eminem, not a rip, but like trying to steal thunder from that.

18:26I'm like, just put him in these fatigues and get him blowing shit up. Anyway, I love that. And I appreciate Scott finding that little 50 cent video game tangent. But you know what? Back to the business at hand. We have to pick the best correction and omission for this week. And you know what? I want to give it to somebody who talked about something that was very important. Yes, I know Stallone called and that was awesome. And I'm honored by it, but he doesn't need any more accolades. I want to give my accolade this week to our friend George Glass. George Glass, who says justice for charisma carpenter.

19:09And you know what? I have to agree with you 100%. Now, I wish I could give you something, but I can't. But I can have you listen to this song specifically for you. Milk, hit it!

19:30All right. If you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up our discord or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. And once again, you can find our new song submission link at hdtgm.com or in the show notes for this very episode. Coming up after the break, you will hear from guests like Jack McBrayer, David Wayne, and more as I bring Sylvester Stallone podcast back to light. And of course, I will finally announce next week's movie. Be right back. How Did This Get Made is excited to collaborate with Audible. Audible has a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts. Now, I am a giant audiobook fan because audiobooks help you get way more out of your day.

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23:43That's right. The Specialist with all-star Nicole Byer. So keep on checking out all of the replays of our classic episodes every Tuesday. I believe that Nicole Byer episode was the first live episode back after COVID. All right. Anyway, I've plugged it enough. It is now time to get back into my lost Sylvester Stallone podcast. on our previous last looks you heard how stallone agreed to guest on my podcast but cup on standing me up for every episode so does sly ever show up let's find out

24:29Hello? Hey mom. Hi. How are you? What's the matter? Just bummed out. What happened? I'm doing this so hard. Sylvester Stallone podcast, and I thought that I was going to get Sylvester Stallone to come in, and he has not come in.

24:53So what happens now? I don't know. They have me signed up for this contract, and I have to do this show, and people are listening, and I don't know. I feel like I'm going to look like a real jerk in front of everybody. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know if I should. What? Did he have a contract to do what he promised? This is what I'm. So we talked to his people at one point. And we advertised this. I talked to the Wall Street Journal. I just was on Bloomberg today. And talking to these guys. And I was advertising. They said, oh, yeah, now he's not going to come now. So he's not coming. you know so it just it just just you know I don't know if you know how when you feel like you you put yourself out there in a way and you just you know now everyone I don't know sees it and I just feel like a jerk about it you know because I don't know what to do to recover from it well let me let me ask you this is it totally lost is there any way that you could personally reach out to him I mean yeah I guess that's I mean yeah yeah I guess I could I mean, I don't know if I know him or anything.

26:05You've never met him, right? You never saw him in the city or anything like that, no? Who are you saying that to, did you? No, I'm saying that to you. Sylvester Stallone? No, because I remember you ran into Chevy Chase in that liquor store one time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I never met him in the city. Yeah, no. All right. But you know what? Can I tell you something? We had a similar thing happen at the hospital. Okay. where we thought we were going to have these hospitalists join the staff, right? Right. And at like 1201, they said, oh, by the way, we're not doing it. And the only thing that worked was for the chief medical officer to throw himself on the sword.

26:46And there was something that they didn't like. But rather than saying what they didn't like, they just said, we're not doing it. So he found out what it was that they didn't like. He couldn't correct it immediately, but we got them to start. and I'm thinking that the only, sometimes you have to kiss, well, I mean, in your business, you know it more than I do. You know, I think you have to kiss his ass a little bit. So maybe just like go in there and just kind of like, yeah, like just maybe like offer up something that he's not quite getting or something or just like kind of, yeah, follow my sword a little bit.

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27:17Yeah, that's exactly right. And, you know, you know, play to that. I will. You know, absolutely play to that. All right. This is, this is, I appreciate that. Actually, that's actually really good advice. You know what? Because I feel like everyone's just like kind of against me. Like June's even saying, like June told me, she's like, I don't want you to stop doing the show. You're embarrassing yourself. And, you know, everyone is, everyone's trying to say just cut your losses. And you're the only, you're the first person to tell me that I should continue. And I appreciate that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:46And I bet you it'll work. Yeah. I really do. I'll tell you, we had millions of dollars at stake. That's the same thing with this. Yeah, well, no, I mean, Wolf Pop, not millions of dollars, but it's a lot. you know it's a lot yeah and you know what maybe there's something you can offer him I mean would he be somebody that you would want on on the league well I mean you think he would be like into like if I could kind of put that out there like he could be on the show and be like he'd be a cool currency yeah yeah exactly exactly I would just really I you know I don't want to say beg but you know what I mean by falling on your story no I definitely do I definitely do this is great thank you mom okay honey thanks so much oh I'm glad to help I'm Christmas shopping for Gussie.

28:29Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, I love you, Mom.

28:36Hey, Jack McBrayer, you are on the Jack McBrayer podcast. I'm your host, Paul Scheer, asking you questions that the fans want to know. Hey, buddy, what's going on? Jack, you are now the star of the show. I originally started the Sylvester Stallone podcast. I've been having trouble getting him. But I figured, you know, next to Stallone, people will also want to know about Jack McBrayer, what makes you tick, what the fun parts of your career and stuff. And I figured if you're up for it, we could just do a podcast right now. You're on the air right now. I guess so. But now, clearly, I wasn't your first choice, though.

29:12Well, no, but you weren't my first choice because I didn't think that you were popular enough like Stallone. But now, as things have gone on, I'm definitely feeling like this is your gettable guest for me. But did you ask other people first? I asked a couple people. And now you're just now getting to me? I asked a couple people. Yeah, sure. You know, friends of ours and stuff like that. But now that we got each other, I think we shouldn't – we don't worry about the past. You know, you're never the first offer. Do you ever hear that? What does that mean? Well, like if you ever got a movie or TV – like chances are you're not the first person they wanted.

29:45Like I'm sure for, you know, Kenneth, they didn't write that part for you. It probably went to like a bigger actor, you know, or something like that. No, actually, actually, no, that is incorrect. I knew Tina Fey for a long time. Okay. And she did say, she wrote Kenneth with me in mind, Paul. I doubt it. Did you audition for it? I didn't audition. I'm just saying I doubt it. I'm just saying there probably was other people out there. You know, she probably, I don't know, went, you know, she probably went to like, like Donnie Wahlberg or somebody first, you know, like a bigger name person. Donnie Wahlberg?

30:16Yeah. Don't get caught up on this. We shouldn't get caught up on the fact that you're lower than Donnie Wahlberg on the celebrity ladder. You're a more accessible guy. That's why I'm calling you right now. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? You called me. I know. And you're the one who's telling me that you're offer only and that everyone wants you. Let me burst your bubble, buddy. I have never said that. I've never said that. I've never said that. I'm not even positive what that means. You just said that Tina Fey wrote the part for you and everything like that. Just have some humility.

30:46Okay. No, she did write that part for me. I'm not saying every job I get is written. What do you want to know? Why did you call me? I'm calling you because you should be excited. You're in the star of my podcast. Okay, you're the star. What's the question? All right, the question is, if you're in an alley, whose ass could you kick? Bruce Willis' ass, Jason Statham's ass, Van Damme's ass, Danny Trejo's ass, Arnold's ass, John Cusack's ass. Who's the toughest fighter? What are you talking about? I don't know any of these people. I would never be in a fight. Okay, well, I told you. The premise of the show was Sylvester Stallone podcast, and I still only have a bunch of used-up questions for Sylvester Stallone.

31:30So I'm just – you can figure that out. Who are you going to fight? Would you be able to beat up – You just said it was the Jack McBrayer show where I'm the star, and people want to know questions about Jack McBrayer. I don't know beans about Jason Statham and Bruce Willis and fighting them in an hour. Okay. That doesn't mean anything to me. Okay, all right, all right, fine. You know what? You're right, you're right. Okay, how about this? This is from, all right, okay. Okay, I have another question. Okay, Jason Kopech writes, who wins in a 10-round fight today? You or Carl Weathers? Who, of course, played Apollo, Cree, and Rocky.

32:04Again, you're marking up the wrong tree here, kid. I've never been in a fight ever, except with, like, my brother and, like, my sister. Who won? Who won? Okay, first of all, who won? Who won? It was a tie, okay? And does your brother look like Carl Weathers? Oh, give me a break. I'm just asking the question. You are a defensive interviewer. You're very defensive. Okay. What do you want? I'm about to go out to dinner. I'm about to go out to dinner with Jon Hamm. What? I want to get him. Oh, my. Can you get him on? I would love to do a Jon Hamm podcast. Can we have him on the show? No. You're a real jerk.

32:42He hung up on me. He hung up. Great. Well, it's either the Jack McBrayer podcast or the Sylvester Stallone podcast I'm not sure And we'll find out more and I'll get back to you tomorrow Thanksgiving's coming up, if you guys have a place for me to eat, I would love that So let me know on the message boards on Wolf Pop Love you and a special message to my wife I'd like to come home June, I'd like to come home

33:15Hey, everybody. Welcome to the David Wayne podcast, formerly the Jack McBrayer podcast, formerly the Sylvester Sloan podcast. I am your host, Paul Scheer. I'm sitting here with writer, actor, director David Wayne. David, welcome to the show. It's so good to be here. And I've always wanted to lend my voice to the podcast medium. And this is a great opportunity for the audience to get some of my wisdom, some of my tidbits. And I'm just really thrilled for the community of listeners and the world out there that they get a chance to hear what I have to say. Well, this is great. We're really going to get into it with you.

33:47This is obviously, you know, we're a gradual series. We'll start out with big ideas and get to some small stuff. But let's just find out, what are you working on now? Like, what's exciting? It's like, what am I not working on? I think of myself as a multi-hyphenate. It's like writer, director, comedian. I mean, no, gardener in my backyard. father, husband. It's like, you name it, I'm doing it. And so it's like projects, Hollywood stuff. Yeah. So you're doing a lot of Hollywood stuff in it. And you recently made a trip out here to Los Angeles, right? Yeah. Well, I've become West coast based recently and that's been, you know, a way to get into the, I feel like it's a lot of the heart of stuff in cable TV, network TV.

34:29There's the live stuff, you know, but it must be hard. You're, you're away from your home for the holidays and, you know, probably, probably tough to even have plans for the holidays. Well, you know, I mean, you know, it's just when I was in New York, I, my family's in Ohio. Yeah. And so I'll be, uh, going with my family to Ohio to see my, my parents and my. Oh, so you're gonna go, you're actually leaving LA and you're going to Ohio. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It'd be so fun to actually, I think like even to go with you there to kind of get like, get into your family life and see what your, what your dynamic is with your family.

35:00You'd love it, Paul. It's like the jokes around the table. Well, I would actually, I would, I actually would love it. I would love to come. If you're, if you're cool with having me come. Obviously I know, I know that, you know, I mean that literally in that, but you know, if you, in a, in a funny way as a bit, that's funny to say. No, no. Yeah, no, I would, I would, no, I, I, well, I mean, just, I mean, would it be weird? Would it be weird? I mean, I don't, I'm right now, I don't have any Thanksgiving plans, uh, right now. So I'm free. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's in Ohio. So it would be a plane flight and it's not.

35:34I think I would swing it. I'd get some money together. I mean, if I could just, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing is, it's like we have this table and there's only so many chairs in the table. And I actually did just a second ago. I actually spoke to my sister, Beth, who is setting it all up. And she said that you're not invited. So I can't go? The thing is that you can't come because you're – You know what? This podcast is boring. This is a boring podcast. No one cares about what you have to say about anything. We're not doing this podcast anymore. The David Wayne podcast, I thought. No, it's done.

36:18No one cares. Because you know what? I thought you were a nice guy. I thought you were a guy who cared about your friends, and now you just shit on me. I'm not sure. I'm saying you can't get on my Thanksgiving dinner, but America wants to know. No one wants to know about you. No one wants to know about you. You're done. All right. This is no.

36:37What a jerk. I mean, oh, you're going back to Ohio and you don't have room for me. I made a whole fucking podcast about you. I mean, this is the kind of stuff. Again, it's Hollywood. Oh, so nice to your face. And then when you ask them for something real, something tangible, they say no. You know what? Let this be a lesson to everyone out there who wants to be an actor, a writer, a director. You know what? Get used to being lied to because this is what this town is about. This podcast was started on a lie told to me and now my life is spiraling because of the liars here. You think that there is support and there is no, there's just no support.

37:13It is Tuesday. I currently do not have any plans for Thanksgiving and I should because I'm a great guest. I bring games. you want to put me on your Scattergories team, I'll fucking nail it. Oh, want to do the, you know, Mafia? I can do that. You want to do like a great like celebrity? I fucking nail all those games. So if there is anyone out there, anyone who wants to have a great celebrity at your party, and I am a celebrity. I was in the Eddie Murphy movie Meet Dave. I was cut out, but I was in it. I met Eddie Murphy. And you know what? So think about that. David Wayne, think about that. Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to the Sylvester Stallone podcast.

38:00I am Paul Scheer. Gobble, gobble. Happy Thanksgiving. Woo! Oh, man. Oh, geez, I gotta turn this down. Studio is closed today, so I'm just cruising, cruising around. and just checking out everybody out here in L.A. and seeing what's up. What's up, L.A.? Wow, this is strange. I'm sorry. This is... I'm not even paying attention. I'm just... You ever be driving and you're not paying attention and you're just like, how did I get here? Wow, this is my old house. I wonder what's going on in there today. I wonder what is happening there

38:55It's like, oh, it's Uncle Dave's car I guess June decided to have everybody over You know, she never likes to have people over I don't know what happened Oh, wow What am I thankful for? Oh, oh shit, shit Fuck, someone's coming up. Someone's coming up. I don't think they see me. I don't think they see me. Shut up. Fuck up. Oh, God, that was close. So what am I thankful for? Movies like Rocky, you know, and Great Stories of Triumph, The Underdog. You know, someone who everyone said, you're a failure. You're not going to get back up. And then at the end of the movie, he got that interview. I mean, he won that fight.

39:44and then everyone then he got a robot in the one of the sequels after they got a fucking robot and and that robot had a relationship with his trainer and that was all because he's an underdog and you know Thanksgiving is about underdogs and uh you know I may be whatever you know having myself a subway uh turkey sub with meatballs yeah out of the box that's what I think uh and you can do that. You just have to pay extra. Just ask them, can I get turkey sub with meatballs? It's healthier. Uh, and I'm just sitting in my car rocking out. I'm a lone wolf. Wolf. And, um, yeah, I hope you guys are eating some lone wolf or lone turkeys.

40:34Um, so anyway, this is, uh, This is me just saying, if you see a Prius cruising around your neighborhood, raise a turkey leg for me because I'm out there. I'm out there getting the job done, doing the work. This is the Sylvester Sloan Podcast, and I am Paul Scheer, and I am thankful for you and to be away from people in my life who give me bullshit. I don't need cranberry sauce one day a year for a lifetime of, you know, I'll come to bed the same time as me. I don't need that. All right, so I'm out. I'm out. Woo. Just rocking out. Yeah. Woo-hoo. I'm free. Free from family. Free from everyone.

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45:13welcome back make sure you tune in to our next last looks for the thrilling conclusion of the sylvester stallone podcast but right now it is time to announce our next movie next week we are going from boom booms to vroom vrooms that's right we are closing out stallone summer with the 2001 motorsports movie driven which was sly's attempt to make a formula one film years before Brad Pitt and Jerry Bruckheimer. Driven also stars Burt Reynolds, Kip Perdue, Till Schwiger, uh, Schweiger? Till Schweiger? And Gina Gershon. All right, Rotten Tomatoes rates this film a 14 % on the tomato meter, and Michael O'Sullivan from the Washington Post said, a music video shot by a cop's camera crew on crystal meth.

45:58Oh, fuck yeah, Washington Post brings the heat. I love that. Let's take a listen to the trailer.

46:07To race with courage. Everyone falls down. It's just how fast you get up. To love with passion. Don't blow this. Not over her. To risk it all. I can't do this. Don't overdrive the car. You must be

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