Last Looks: Grizzly II: Revenge

0:00Qualey out, send it in, Jason and I pitch a movie to Marlon Waynes, and the connection between Jaws and Grizzly to revenge. All this and more on today's How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. Hit the theme.

0:40And start, how did this get made? Hello, Geek Squad. I mean, G-Squad. I'm Paul Scheer and welcome to How Did This Get Made? Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Grizzly 2 Revenge. A movie that Discord user Sean McBee thinks should have had the tagline, Grizzly 2, the movie that saved Karate Kid. Ha ha, yes. Thank you, Sean McBee. You can always submit them right on the Discord. but first let's give a shout out to Devin Helmer for that amazing theme song. Devin, you killed it. You did. I love that theme. People, you're the best. I got to say every week I tune in to see what we have.

1:25I mean, I'm not tuning in, I'm broadcasting out, but I look at all the things that you send in. I'm always impressed. I love the chats in the Discord. I love that you buy tickets to come see us when we're out and about. It means the world to me. And that's as sincere as I'm going to get for the rest of this episode. Let me tell you this. We got a big show. We're going to be talking about corrections and omissions to Grizzly 2, a movie that we barely talked about in the actual show. You got a lot of opinions about G-Squad. We'll get into that as well. Plus, Jason stops by for a little Just Chat where we're going to talk about Halloween movies.

1:56We're talking about this prank I played on Rob Hubel that went well and one that I played on Jack McBrayer that went less well. But anyway, hold on to your buddy, the elf animatronics. And as always, at the end of the show, I will reveal the movie for next week's episode. But guess what? One little piece of bad information. I will not be sharing a deleted scene from our Grizzly 2 episode because there was no off-topic material, okay? Nothing cut from the show. That was pure Grizzly 2 info. Tips to tails. else. By the way, if you're part of the G squad, the geek squad, we have a geek squad shirt available now on our merch store.

2:39You can just go check it out. You can get it as a sticker, which I have done and now put on a water bottle. Yeah, I'm wearing my own merch or I guess I'm just repping my own merch, which is OK. My son did go to school in a dark web shirt for pajama day. I didn't have any part in that, but I was proud. People, how did this get made is going to be in New York and Philly on November 7th and 8th. New York is almost sold out. So we just added a brand new date. That's right. On November 6th, Dinosaur Improv is coming to Town Hall. Same location, special guests. We got the best of the best in New York.

3:14Edie Patterson, Mary Holland, Danielle Schneider, Rob Hubel, me and Jason. So much good stuff. Every show is completely different. So come see us in Boston, D.C., Philly, New York, two nights in a row. Just go to hdtgm.com and check us out or see us here in Los Angeles. At the end of the month, we are doing some live shows at Largo, Dinosaur, and to How to Disket Maids, where a good friend, Nick Kroll, is joining us as a very special guest. I also want to say keep the prayers, keep the goodwill, keep the good thoughts going for Averill Halley. If you want to send her any sort of just good wishes, you can do it by snail mail at andrewatmoviebitches.xyz or at Averill Halley, PO Box 641, Agorahills, California, 91376.

4:03People, you had thoughts, you had questions, and now I try my best to give them answers. And a little section we like to call Corrections and Omissions. Marty Iglesias, hit that theme.

4:20Corrections. Corrections. Ambitions. Corrections. Ambitions. Corrections. Ambitions. Ambitions. Ambitions.

4:48All right, lizard breath. Was anyone else bothered by the two-liter bottle of Slice that Laura Dern had hooked to her backpack? Now, Scott did include a picture of this. This is true. There is a two-liter bottle of Slice just connected, like almost like a hook. Anyway, why wasn't it in a cooler? Warm orange soda doesn't sound refreshing after a long hike. Now, Scott wants to point out, it is not a bottle of Slice. It is a bottle of Orange Crush. So, Lizard Breath, you've been debunked. Everything you say now, it doesn't make a difference because you were wrong. Wrong orange soda. By the way, if there's any hot soda to have, orange would be my favorite, I think.

5:39How about you? What do you think? Come, find me online. Let's talk about it. Uh, Mick G 3D writes in the beginning stock footage, you can see a guy surfing on a moving motorcycle in one of the overhead shots. I was so confused. Whoa, hold on one second. I didn't even see that. Good thing. Our eagle eyed producer, Scott saw it, pulled a clip. I watched it. And yes, you are indeed right. There is a man doing a motorcycle stunt. He is standing on a moving motorcycle. I, this movie is absolutely amazing. It continues to confound me. If you've not read Brian Rafferty's article in The Ringer, you should definitely check it out.

6:18I was talking to him this week and, you know, give him those clicks because he goes way into the deep Grizzly 2 lore. I don't think he gets to the bottom of the guy doing a motorcycle stunt, but man, stock footage. It happens to the best of us, The Shining and Blade Runner, right? They use the same stock footage. I forgot who did what. But Sean McBee writes, not only did we not ever see the bear actually hit the electric fence. Whoa, Sean, too many knots in that sentence. But the footage of it being fried is literally cropped and saturated footage of the shark dying in Jaws 2. Wait, what? Again, you have to be on the Discord because all of this is in the Discord in its beautiful glory.

7:03I can see the scene from Jaws 2 and Grizzly. And yeah, it's the same shot. Whoa, how did they get that footage? Where are they getting all this footage from? I mean, did they steal that just from a Universal movie? Jaws 2 is still a popular, you know, that's like a, it's a Universal special. That's not like a company going bankrupt. Man, oh man, I love it. Pete, the S-Man writes, can we talk about Bouchard saying how he and his family killed 25 bears in one day slash night? That's a massacre. First of all, are there even that many bears in one central location? and think of the travesty and all the blood that they left behind, let alone wiping out an entire species in an area.

7:47Wow. You guys did the thing that we didn't do this week, which is really talk about the movie. And I got to tell you, that did stick out to me. The next omission is actually from AV club writer, Will Harris. Now he reached out to me saying that he interviewed John Rhys-Davies back in 2012, and he asked him about Grizzly 2. Here are a couple of quotes from Will's interview. This is John Rhys-Davies talking about his character, Bouchard. I thought it was a rather good performance that I gave. I don't know why I put that accent on it, but I'm going to continue to do that. And this is John commenting on Steve Inwood, who played Chief Park Ranger.

8:28John said, Poor fellow. He was very handsome, very strong, but he had one or two problems. And I guess coming off the near superstardom of staying alive, it made him perhaps overvalue his contribution a little bit. And the whole thing was a real eye-opener. Sometimes you learn more from the films that aren't terribly successful. And indeed, sometimes you learn more from the real disasters than you do from the ones that succeed. Sliders forever! I just added the sliders forever. Thank you, Will Harris. I love Will. Will is a friend of the pod. Check out his writing wherever. You like pop culture, you like film, you like Will Harris.

9:15Dig back into his AV club and also just see what he's up to. He's a good read. All right, let's go to the phones. Josh, what do you got? Hey, Paul. My name is Josh. I just thought you'd like to know something interesting following Grizzly 2. Damon Carvey and David Spade have a podcast called Fly on the Wall, and they just had a brand new episode with Charlie Sheen in which he says that Grizzly 2 was his first acting paycheck, and he received$6 ,000,$2 ,000 a week. So he received three weeks of pay and immediately cashed the check, went into a store and bought two, in his words, fancy camping vests, one, two in different colors.

10:05And he said it was the first time that he actually felt like a big shot. So I thought you might find that interesting for your last looks episode. I love the show and please keep going I listen to your podcast and then I watch the movies and it really keeps me going thank you so much, bye Josh, you're the best I love, thank you for your message first of all, I will admit that when I first started I was like, yeah, yeah, we know, Karate Kid yeah, yeah, yeah but then, you pulled in this other fact this fact that no one knew about these camping vests, these camping vests that I guess each cost$3 ,000.

10:52I mean, maybe like 2 ,800 and tax kind of put it over the edge. Wow. Blew my mind. I love that fact. I love the fact that Charlie Sheen remembers that. And I think it's like one of those things that you remember those purchases when you first get money. Like for me, it was a fold-out couch because I mean, I was living in a studio and I thought that was a real upgrade. I guess I should have moved to a bigger apartment, but I remember spending a thousand dollars on a fold out couch. I was like, yeah, this is it. Uh, and then I also remember when I got a little bit more money that I bought another couch at Crate and Barrel, because at that point in my life, couches were the things I was spending the most money on.

11:35I was like, whoa, a thousand dollars. Like how could I ever, I mean, rent, obviously, but wow. I love that fact. Josh, you are great. That Charlie Sheen documentary is fascinating or as fascinating as it could be when you pay for a documentary to be made about yourself. Here's what I'll say. A lot of talk has been around the monologue that Sam Rockwell gave in White Lotus. I love Sam. Sam is the fucking best. Huge heart, great actor, super funny guy. I thought that Charlie Sheen's monologue about the other side of the menu hit a little harder than Sam Rockwell's monologue in White Lotus. So what I'm really asking for here is can Sam Rockwell bring that character back to just do the monologue from Charlie Sheen's doc?

12:32I would love to see it. Thank you, Josh, for that call. Next up, Kelly, what do you got? Hey there. This is Kelly. I'm still honestly feeling a little disoriented from Grizzly 2, but I did want to bring up something for corrections and omissions because it didn't make this hot. And that was the wonderful Louise Fletcher, who y 'all correctly identified as Nurse Ratchet, and also played the terrifying grandmother in the 1980s adaptation of Flowers in the Attic, very big for people my age, but then had a much larger role as Kai Winn, one of the major enduring villains of Star Trek Deep Space Nine, probably hearing from a lot of Trekkies this week.

13:13I was sorry we didn't get to see more of her in Grizzly 2, but seeing as how she got more screen time than George Clooney, Laura Linney, and Charlie Sheen, I guess you do well. The crazy thing, though, is that this movie had yet another Deep Space Nine connection. One of the poachers was actually played by Mark Alaimo, who played Gul Dukat, arguably the other major villain of Deep Space Nine who, sorry for the 30-year-old spoiler, actually teams up with Kai Wynn for the end of the series. So it was truly bonkers to see Louise Fletcher and Mark Alaimo in a project together, even though their characters never meet, like 10 years before they were on the same Star Trek.

13:55I really wonder if they ever talked about Grizzly 2 on the set of Deep Space Nine or if it was something they both maybe buried in the past since it never came out anyway. Anyway, thank you. I love the podcast so much. I'm hoping to see Dinosaur in DC. Oh, and I'd really like to nominate Julia Garner for G-Squad. Bye. Thank you. Kelly. Kelly, oh my gosh, first of all, these messages are warming my heart. Kelly, I'm a nerd. I'm a Star Trek nerd. You don't got to tell me. You don't got to tell me twice. But, you know, you probably do need to tell me twice because I didn't recognize Louise Futcher.

14:35I know that name now that I'm looking at it. I mean, Gold Dukat, 100%. Of course, I know Gold Dukat. And now you put it all together. So even me, a Deep Space Nine junkie, I love Deep Space Nine, especially the later seasons. Uh, so good. Great pull. Um, and I'm going to guarantee a hundred percent. Yes. These people talked about their experience on Grizzly two, because it is a, a bond, a bond. When you work with somebody on a movie or TV show, that's so fucked up. It is forever. The thing that connects you. It is, this is, I'm sure I wish they would have hosted a podcast about it. They should have get them on a podcast.

15:11Let's get them doing a Grizzly two recap podcast. Let's make it happen. All right. Coming up, we have a quick break and then more corrections and omissions because they're so damn good. Plus, Jason and I are going to chat about Halloween and we're going to reveal next week's movie. Stick around. Okay, welcome back. Since our last caller, Kelly, talked a little bit about Julia Garner being in Geek Squad. Now, I didn't address that initially because now we're going to get into it. Okay, we're not going to talk about Grizzly 2 anymore. We are going to just respond to corrections and omissions solely related to the Geek Squad.

15:50And Kelly, your message was awesome. It meant the world to me. But guess what? Julia Garner, not in Geek Squad. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know why. It's my gut feeling that she should not be in Geek Squad. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Let's see what other people say. Emily from France? Hi, Paul and Jason. This is Emily from France. And I'm calling regarding the last chat you had with Dave Johnson just to tell you that in France, the G-Squad is actually a boy band. When you guys had Backstreet Boys and NSYNC, we had G-Squad written G-S-Q-A-D. You should check it out there. something.

16:43Thanks for all the great content. Love you guys. Bye. Well, of course, Emily is right. I love an international call. Thank you, Emily, for calling us. And G-Squad does look like our geek squad. I like it. So I guess essentially by laying down the law that there is a G-Squad, then we have to call it Geek Squad. No more G-Squad. It is Geek Squad. We do not want any confusion with French boy bands. Okay. Now we're going to go to the Discord for a second because Bolo Nomadic writes, Nick Holt is like 15 years older than Timothy and Austin. He has been famous for like 25 years. He can't be in the Geek Squad.

17:30And Bolo Nomadic, I agree. I agree. I don't know why. I, you know, maybe I had Superman on the brain. And, you know, we all know that, as Scott points out, that Nicholas Holt's big break was back in 2002's About a Boy. He played the boy against Hugh Grant. Great movie. I'm a big fan of that writer, Nick Hornby, who has a great sub stack as well. But I agree. All right. Holt is out. Garner is out. iCoop says, the only thing that bothers me is that so much of the Geek Squad aren't in movies together the way the brat or frat packs were. we need a modern-day breakfast club or St. Elmo's Fire. Well, Coop, that is a fair point, and we got a call that suggests maybe there is a movie that contains most of the Geek Squad after all.

18:17Drew from Atlanta, what do you got? Hey, Paul. Wanted to call about last week's episode where y 'all talked about the pitch for Geek Squad. I thought a possible good template for who is in the Geek Squad is the Manson family kids from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. those kids all went on to have great success and you mentioned a lot of them during your show there was awesome butler mikey madsen maya hawk sydney sweeney margaret qualley just name a few or even a couple that you dismissed like dakota fanning but she doesn't need to be in there i'm sure she would understand love the show and appreciate everything you do to brighten up my week every week would love for you all to come out to atlanta for a tour i don't believe you all have ever been there before.

19:00But I would be first in line. Thanks again and take care. Okay. Wow. Drew laying it down. Drew, we want to come to Atlanta. We've asked to come to Atlanta. I don't know why we haven't. That's not, that's odd. I ask about it all the time. Maybe it's just about where we're going and how long we're on tour for. We will get there. Eventually we'll get there. All right, but let's get into what the main point of this is, Drew. Okay, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, Austin Butler, Mikey Madison, Maya Hawke, Sidney Sweeney, Margot Qualley, Dakota Fanning, all in that movie, right? Now, we've already talked about getting some of these people in and out of here, but this is what I'm going to say.

19:43Mikey Madison, I've been on the fence. I don't think that she is worthy of Geek Squad yet. Anora, awesome performance. Once by a time in Hollywood, great performance. But I think we need at least three or four performances to get in that squad. That's what I'm saying. Three or four big performances. Maya Hawke, I think, falls in that same category. All right. Dakota Fanning, I was there. I was there. People talked me out of Dakota Fanning. I thought she was a little too old. I don't know. I mean, Mikey Madison has been one that has come up, but if we're talking about the movie, then I have to put Mikey and Maya in.

20:29Again, this is not fully up to me. I have to take it to counsel. By the way, June has a lot of opinions on Geek Squad. Now, here's the question though. Is, you know, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood the only kind of Geek Squad movie? Well, guess what? there is another. That's right. There's two. Just like, you know, that movie, Star Wars. Let's hear from Kate from Mississippi to find out what Kate has to say. Hey, this is Kate driving to a concert in Memphis, which I'm late for, but loves every single bit of the Grizzly 2 episode. But the entire time we were talking about this, I wanted to scream, Sophie Thatcher.

21:12Sophie Thatcher's Geek Squad we also have the other Nepo baby along with Quali Quaid in there and then what's the other guy's name basically the cast of the Companion Lucas Gage I think but Sophie Thatcher 100 % Geek Squad just wanted to throw that out there thanks y 'all great episode talk about this shit all the time thanks y 'all yes Kate the cast of Companion are all Geek Squad Sophie Thatcher Jack Quaid. Lucas Gage. Love Jack. Let's put him in Geek Squad. Lucas Gage. Interesting. Sophie Thatcher. I like this too. I like, I'm liking what we're pulling together here. Okay. We're building the Geek Squad together.

21:54We're going out of the box a little bit. All right, Kate, thank you for that message. Everybody's message. Really, this has been one of the most heartwarming. I'm so into the corrections and omissions. I'm not actually taking in all the emotional feedback I'm getting here. It is making my day. You are all the absolute best. I'm coming at you with a lot of love today, and you are coming at me with love, and that's the way it works. You get back what you give. All right, but here we go. Kate has a hot take. Hi, Paul. Longtime listener, first-time caller. As a woman who is older than any of this geek squad but definitely still younger than Jason, I loved the last episode, and I have a few observations about people who should be in the geek squad.

22:40Um, first, Sabrina Carpenter is definitely Geek Squad. She was on the Disney Channel, and she did that, like, Netflix, Christmas, whatever thing. And so I think she counts. Um, I couldn't believe it took you so long to say Paul Mezcal. I was literally strolling through Central Park shouting, Paul Mezcal! I'm, like, waving, I'm doing jazz hands, you can't see it. Um, as soon as you started talking about the tiny mustaches. Um, and also, I think Daisy Edgar Jones probably counts. and what's-his-face from the movie with Jacob Elordi who dated Sabrina Carpenter. Barry, I don't know, I can't remember.

23:16Anyway, I loved it. I think you should do more of that nonsense. It was an absolute who, and I was laughing the whole time. And so also on a maybe like a little bit more serious note, I just wanted to tell you that like last year I was struggling really bad with depression on top of my, you know, persistent ADHD. ADHD, it got so bad, honestly, that I could hardly get out of bed. And one day I went to run an errand and I put on the Little Italy episode of the show and I ended up walking all day and listening to a bunch of episodes and just like wandering around New York totally mindlessly and aimlessly.

23:57And so I kind of was able to get myself to do that for a full week. And it was enough to like get me to take a step and go see the right kind of doctor and start to like deal with whatever it was that was going on. And I really love the nonsense that you guys are doing. It brings so much joy to my life. Keep doing it, please. That's all. And I hope you have a wonderful weekend and week. Bye. Sabrina Carpenter. I don't want to put her in Geek Squad. I don't want to put her in Geek Squad because, you know, it just feels like it's off center. It feels like that's why we're talking about Taylor Swift out of Geek Squad.

24:39I get it. I get why you want her in there. I don't feel like it works. Barry Keoghan, feel like it works. Now, am I messing up my age thing? I might be. Daisy Edgar Jones. Yeah, you could twist my arm. My castmate from Twisters, you could twist my arm to Daisy Edgar Jones. I think that she could do it. But Sabrina Carpenter, I'm drawing that line because she's a different type of entertainer. And now she comes back to acting and it's open doors open again. You know, if she pulls like a smashing machine, you know, kind of safety brothers team up, I'm going to open up the door to Geek Squad to her.

25:16And I got to say, Kate, just when I go out there and I say, oh, my gosh, these messages, They've meant the world to me. You come in and you up it even more. I'm so happy to hear that. I'm happy that you are doing great. And thank you for sharing that. And thank you for also sharing three solid choices. You're the best. And hopefully we'll have some good live shows coming up that will make for some good walking around New York listening in the future. But that means a lot to me, Jason, and June. but we still have business at hand okay because before we wrap up the geek squad i want to acknowledge that yes jason manzoukas jake johnson and i we are middle-aged men we aren't the best arbiters of who is geek squad i mean that's what people tell us right so to provide a more youthful perspective here is our how did this get made in turn and official gen z correspondent quinn Jennings.

26:16Quinn, take it away. Hello, this is Quinn, the official Gen Z representative for How Did This Get Made? I heard there were a lot of takes about the Geek Squad, and I have some opinions. I definitely think Timothee Chalamet and Jenna Ortega are in the Geek Squad, no question. I know Jeremy Allen White was kicked out at the end, but I'm going to throw him back in there, because even though he's been around for a while, he is currently in conversation with these young actors. He is a Hulu show. He is a biopic. He's really doing it. I'm going to boot Austin Butler, Jacob Elordi, Margaret Qualley, and Sydney Sweeney.

27:01I really don't think any of them have the edge to be in Geek Squad between some Nepo Baby status and some denim commercials. I really don't think any of them, the four of them, have charmed me enough to be in Geek Squad. I would add Zendaya, Rachel Sennett, Iowa Debery, Rachel Zegler. I think Barry Keoghan could be like the controversial Geek Squad member. Lucas Gage, I think, is another person that really is just everywhere and would kind of vibe with these people. And I'm going to replace Nicholas Holt with Harris Dickinson. Nicholas Holt has been around for a while. Harris Dickinson has been in movies with these people.

27:50And people get Nicholas Holt and Harris Dickinson confused anyway. So as long as you have one of them in there, doesn't really matter which one. I'm going to say heristic and sin. So those have been my Geek Squad takes. Bye. Okay. Quinn's laying it down. Back in Jeremy Allen White and Zendaya. I was always Zendaya on this. Kicking out Austin Butler. Okay. I think we're done with him. Kicking out Jacob Elordi. Interesting. Margot Qualley. Out. Sydney Sweeney. Out. New pitches. Rachel Sennett. Ayo, Rachel Ziegler, Barry Keoghan, Lucas Gage, Nick Holt out, Harris Dickinson in. I got to say, Quinn, you are not coached.