Last Looks: Jack

24:15Jason Mantzoukas:Hashtag release the Copa cut. Here is a snippet from the article. DeMonaco wrote the original script with his friend Gary. And I'm not going to pronounce everybody's last name. So I'm just saying DeMonaco and Gary. And they were intending Gary to direct. But when DeMonaco and Gary sold the script, the studio found out that they could get Robin Williams to star. And so they were very excited until within weeks, the studio fired Gary. Okay. Now, Robin had this list of directors and DeMonaco thinks he was kind of playing a political game, you know, trying to get the most out of it that he could, because the directors that Robin wanted were Martin Scorsese, Barry Levinson, Francis Coppola, and Brian De Palma.

24:54Jason Mantzoukas:And I'm like, this is nuts. And DeMonaco just assumed those directors would pass and then Gary would be rehired. But this is what happens when one of those directors is deeply in debt. Coppola says, yes. Now I'm adding the deeply in debt there. The end result didn't fully please DeMonaco or Coppola as the regime changes the studio led to a lot of tinkering with tone, which left Jack feeling awkward and clumsy despite a handful of deeply felt moments. I mean, Francis had a cut that was much better than what the public saw, DeMonaco said. It was a very melancholy film. But then Mike Ovitz took over the studio, and he didn't like what Francis was trying to do, and the more morbid scenes were excised, and Francis Ford Coppola had to take notes from the studio at that point.

25:38Jason Mantzoukas:Wow, okay. So yes, hashtag release the Coppola cut. I gotta tell you people, I'm having experience right now where I'm working on something. I can't be more specific than that. It's not Dinks, which you should come see a live taping of. And I have watched this movie, Get Better, Get Worse, Get Better, Get Worse, Get Better, Get Worse. And I have seen it air on the side of worse, more than better. Now, I am uniquely removed from this. It won't affect me how this movie comes out so I can like leave my ego at the door. But it is an infuriating process to see something unequivocally better and then see it get changed yet again.

26:28Jason Mantzoukas:There's a thing that Paul Schneider said, yep, referencing Paul Schneider from Parks and Recreation season two, where he looked at a picture and it was a bunch of different images from everybody in the office at Parks and Rec. And he said, that's a good old fashioned camel. And they go, what do you mean a camel? He goes, a camel is when a bunch of artists try to draw a horse from memory. That's a camel. And I feel like, A, I might be misquoting that, but you get the gist. And then B, that's what happens on these studio movies. I have had so much, I mean, I understand this business to a certain extent.

27:07Jason Mantzoukas:This is the first time though, where I've actively seen how, I mean, it gives me pause because like, wow, I know there's a better version of it here, but we're not going to ever let anybody see that. Now you also have on the other side of that, you know, Stanley Kubrick who shot an epilogue to The Shining. And then after it was released, was like, you know what? I don't like that epilogue. Cut that scene. It was basically the caretaker of the Overlook comes to check in on Danny and Shelley Duvall at the end of the movie to be like, hey, we can't find your husband's body. We don't think anything happened up there.

27:46Jason Mantzoukas:You know, and then it's at the end, it's like, oh, I think he's a devil too. Anyway, he cut that two-minute scene out of The Shining after it was released. That I'm all for. Like, you're tinkering at the end of the day, if it's a director who wants to make it, but, uh, to, I don't know, to be able to give over to somebody that's like, uh, like I'm going to take this over and then they don't get any of the penalty for taking it over. Anyway, I have a lot to talk about with this movie. Oh, it's been a, it's been a journey. Uh, anyway, I won't talk about it when it comes out. Um, let's go back to the phones.

28:20Jason Mantzoukas:Nick from Illinois. What do you got? Hi there, Paul, Jason, and June. My name is Nick. Long time. First time. Hey, listen to the episode, Jack. And you started talking about how as a 10-year-old, he would know where his body begins and ends, even if he is growing quickly. And he would have awareness of where he is in space. And I got to push back on that pretty significantly. I have a son whose name is Jack. and he grew so fast. He is very tall for his age, just for his age. And man, did he just have a bear of a time figuring out where his body is in space. I see him trying to navigate the world and he's just a little clumsy and he's just a little, you know, just not smooth and lithe.

29:17Jason Mantzoukas:that he just has, he kind of bumps into things and he just wandered and he's just not always sure of himself. And it's because he's grown so goddamn fast and his name is Jack and it's awesome. Um, so I have to push back on that just a little bit. Uh, I love, love, love the podcast. Um, and my boys love to watch taskmaster Jason, you are their favorite agent of chaos so far. So thanks for that. Um, yeah. And then thanks for the years and years and years of entertainment. and I appreciate it. Have a great day. Thank you. All right, Nick, I'm going to take a little bit of a issue with your taking an issue with our issue.

29:54Jason Mantzoukas:I agree with you. I have a 10-year-old, I have a 12-year-old, and they are growing rapidly, not as fast as some would like, others faster, and it causes a lot of issues. But here's what I'll say. Robin Williams has been this way for a long time, right? So like, I guess the difference between if he grows, uh, you know, four times the age, right? So just say like for the last four birthdays, he's been in his twenties. So I don't think that somebody in their twenties or thirties is completely out of depth in their forties because their body has changed. I don't think your body changed. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think your body is changing that much from 20 to 40, as far as height is concerned.

30:39Jason Mantzoukas:So he would have been at this height for quite a long time, right? So it'd be four, eight, 16. I know how to do math. Uh, 21. So that at four years old, he is 21 years old. So from four, so in this movie, he's 10 or whatever, you know, so we're saying he's been this body size for six years. So anyway, Nick, I take issue with your issue, but I love you and you're great. And that was a good call. Good luck with those boys. Uh, Next up, Joe from Brisbane. Hi, Jason, Paul, and June. It's Joe from Brisbane, Australia. Love the show. Just wanted to think about the possibility of a way to fix this movie.

31:19Jason Mantzoukas:Maybe they should have just made him age three times instead of four. So if he was 45 and 15 and he was around 15-year-olds, maybe you could skirt the lines a little easier with some of the really cringy adult child stuff i know it doesn't make it that much better but at least you can have a real coming of age style story if he was 15 going through puberty and all that sort of stuff i'd love to know what you think i i think apart from here him being a 40 year old 10 year old uh i don't think this movie could be fixed really but um thanks again you guys love your work bye okay sure you mean like oh like if he was the size of a 15 year old yeah yeah that would have been great i would have liked that i think that that's a good idea they this arbitrary age they picked i mean this is the robin williams of it all like it doesn't necessarily serve the story i don't think but i mean look tell that to demonico and gary uh next up sean what do you got hey uh paul and jason um i've never actually left a voicemail.

32:26Jason Mantzoukas:So my hope is that you'll actually hear this one and maybe you'll use it. So I was listening to the Jack episode and you were talking about how there was like a trend in the movies in the late eighties, early nineties of like these, you know, kind of boomer directors who were reflecting on not wanting to grow up or the nostalgia of it all. And it made me immediately think of the time that when I rewatched Drop Dead Fred, not too long after that infamous podcast episode dropped, to refresh my memory about it, there's a moment where Marsha Mason says to Phoebe Cates, I did it. I got married. I had the kid.

33:05I bought the house and my life sucks because you aren't really that good of a kid or whatever. And I remember saying like, oh, that's what this movie is.

33:15Jason Mantzoukas:This movie, so going back to Drop Dead Fred, I'm like, that's what this movie is. It's the, we did we followed all the rules and we're not happy and i feel like that's the same thing with like jack and the observations that you all made we followed all the rules and we're not happy uh and uh 100 team sanity on my side uh and uh love the show and hopefully uh i hear this on last looks thank you damn right you're gonna hear this on last look sean uh team sanity forever you make a brilliant point and i think that i'm not just saying that because you're team sanity um here's the fix in my mind you just articulated how this movie gets 110 better you need to send a 40 year old back to being a kid not a kid growing into a like that's the thing right big is about a kid becoming an adult, but what we really are chasing is an adult wanting to be a kid again.

34:19Jason Mantzoukas:Now, that brings me to one of my favorite movies of all time, Hiding Out, which is a great John Cryer film. I love Hiding Out. If you've not watched Hiding Out, oh boy, oh boy, it's a fun one. It's about like, oh, I don't, Hiding Out's great. But that's the wish fulfillment. But here's the thing. It's super fucking creepy. You can't make it about a 40 year old who has all the knowledge of a 40 year old in the body of a 15 year old. You're fucked. It's gross. So that is the rub. And so we make it the other way and it loses a thing. But I think you're 100 percent right. We aren't happy. And that's a very, I think, an 80s or like late 80s, early 90s kind of boomer point of view.

35:03Jason Mantzoukas:anyway great call and it might have been my my favorite my favorite call because we we agreed here i mean there's research there's so much stuff but i gotta say i just want to give this best call of this week to jay from ontario she absolutely nailed it you really showed us how it's done on a call uh thank you for reading my book by the way and i'm not just giving you this because you read my book uh which is available to purchase wherever you get your books audiobooks whatever you want to do. I even still sign them. If you've ordered a couple of books, I'm a little bit late right now because I've been working so much, but I'll get there.

35:37Jason Mantzoukas:Anyway, Jay, for your prize, you have won a very rare and extraordinary bottle of wine from Francis Ford Coppola's winery. This French wine variety is called Jacques Pelou Blanc. That's, you know, basically translates into hairy white jack. And the reason this bottle is so special is that even though it's only 10 years old. The wine tastes like it's been aged for 40 years, and it will also make you fart a lot. Anyway, I hope you enjoy your Jacques Bellou Blanc. Anyway, Jay, you are the best, and thank you for everyone who is submitting these great questions. I love that we're using SpeakPipe. Everyone sounds so good, and you can call us at speakpipe.com slash hdtgm or by writing us on our Discord.

36:24Jason Mantzoukas:All right, coming up after one last break, Jason will drop by for a just chat. How Did This Get Made is excited to collaborate with Audible. Audible has a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts. Now, I am a giant audiobook fan because audiobooks help you get way more out of your day. I'm able to kind of check in when I'm in the car. I love an audiobook so much so that I actually created my audiobook, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, to appeal to listeners of audiobooks. And that's what Audible is known for, right? They have this range of amazing titles. There is something for everyone, like The Deal and Heated Rivalry.

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39:30Jason Mantzoukas:So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. And without any further ado, it is now time for a Just Chat with Mr. Jason Manzoukas. John Cohen, hit the theme.

39:45Just chat. Just chat about it. Just chat about it. Yeah.

39:53Just chat. Just chat about it. Just chat about it. Yeah. Jason, how are you? Paul, boy, you know, you and I are overlapping two very busy work schedules. I have this maybe the longest I've gone without really seeing you. I've been on my job. It's just ended. And now you're on yours and we we need to hang.

40:18Jason Mantzoukas:I know. I really feel that way. I feel like someone was asking me about you the other day. And I was like, I have this is probably the longest I have gone without seeing you. And in that time, my gosh, so many things going on. So many great things. We have a lot to talk about. So much. And we're going to spend all of this episode just talking about Sterling Point, right? Oh, we have to. How caught up are you on Sterling Point? I mean, Jason, I've watched it twice, so I'm ready to break it down. I'm not even kidding. I have watched all of Sterling Point. Tell me a little bit about it, because I don't even know if I've heard this name.

40:52Sterling Point is like a YA. It's not, though. It's Megan Park who did My Old Ass. Okay, got it.

40:59Jason Mantzoukas:I like that. But it's like, what if Megan, what if the maker of My Old Ass, which is a fantastic movie, made a, why a seeming story? Because it's not based on any book or anything like that. It's an original idea, but it is all teenagers who live in like rich area of like the lake region in like northern Michigan. Okay. But it's just like it's just coming of age teenage soap opera. OK, but it's not like a comedy. It's not like it's not like trying to deconstruct it. Not at all. It is. It is just a very well done one of these. Oh, OK. By the way, I'm a I'm a fan. I will watch the hell out of that.

41:41This got me in a way that I was. You know what it is? It feels like what in that way that I wanted Sex Life of College Girls to be kind of Gilmore Girls Goes to College. And it kind of wasn't exactly this a little bit is that it's like it's small town like Stars Hollow. It's got a Gilmore Girls element to it, except it's a little bit more grown up, if that makes sense.

42:03Jason Mantzoukas:I, you know, Jason, I've been thinking about you so much because I am we're on the Warner Brothers lot right now. Oh, yes. And we're in we're in Warner Village where basically, you know, I am right near like Lorelei's house. like I am I'm right there I'm our writer's room is in the Bob and a Shola house uh uh but uh and I think a pretty little liar's house as well but I we're like two houses down from a Gilmore girl's house and I was so excited I walk by it every day good it's so funny but um I was gonna say what we should definitely do and it's been the talk of the town if you have not gone yet is check out that Lucas Art Museum.

42:45Jason Mantzoukas:Haven't been. Would love to. That looks amazing. Would love to. And I'm really hoping that the George Lucas talk show can somehow do a live event within that space. That, I think, would be like some sort of canon event in Marvel terms. Like, it would be perfect if they could figure out a way to... I just would love it. I would love it. And I think it would be one of those things, like when Tom Hanks showed up on Dead Eyes, that if George Lucas showed up on the George Lucas talk show, but playing a character. Oh, wouldn't that be so funny? And then we just, then you lock, not to make him lock it down, but man, that would be the penultimate thing.

43:29Jason Mantzoukas:I would love it. I would love that. That would be a blast. Man, I've been watching and reading a lot, but I've also been traveling. So I just got back from Kenya, which was amazing. That's right. Yeah, go ahead. Well, I mean, nothing to recommend more than the country of Kenya. Wow. But I will say this, Pride of Lions killed an Impala right outside of our little camp. So we woke up at five in the morning, walls rumbling as this Pride of Lions just were tearing apart an Impala. And it does not sound like the MGM lion. It has a very different sound. But we had an amazing, amazing time. Have you ever been to Africa?

44:11Jason Mantzoukas:Because you're a well-traveled person. I've never been to sub-Saharan Africa. I've only been to Northern Africa. So no, I've never seen any of these animals. I've never been in any of those places. I think that you would. I will share some travel recs to you as we go. But what have you been watching? Oh, I've been watching a lot of stuff. Some of it I think you will really appreciate. And some of it I think you would genuinely like. I like that I appreciate it, though. Well, for example, something you might maybe appreciate more than like is so we on a recent episode here lamented the news that they were not going to move forward with the Gerard Butler sequel to the movie Plane, which was going to be called Boat.

45:00Yes. Now, I have great news. There is a Jason Statham movie called Mutiny that might as well be called Boat because it is basically that. It is basically Jason Statham gets on a shipping boat and has to work his way through the boat, killing all the bad guys. And it is a blast. Isn't that just under siege? Basically, yes. Except he's Jason Statham and doesn't have any of the nonsense of Steven Seagal, who I believe is playing the chef on the boat. He's the chef.

45:30Jason Mantzoukas:They didn't count on the chef. Now, did you know the little trick about that movie that Amazon accidentally released it before it came out in movie theaters? So they streamed it the week before it came out, and it completely messed up. Oh, I didn't know that. Because I watched it at home. I didn't go to the theater to see it. So I wonder if you watched when they made a mistake. Well, it's not your mistake. It's there. I just saw Jason Statham movie and I was like, let's go. No, yeah, they accidentally released it and it really affected the box office. Yeah, of course. It is, I will say, it is a blast.

46:12It is, it's better than Working Man, which was the Stallone one that was not very good. And so this is peak, you know, Statham, one-liners, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder. It's fine.

46:26Jason Mantzoukas:I'm excited that he's just turning these out. Now, I know that you may not have gotten to the theater because you've been working so hard, but Coyote vs. Acme, so happy that it did great at the box office. I fucking loved this movie. It was so good. This movie is incredible. Friend of the show, Yasser Lester, referred to it as a masterpiece recently. And I agree. It is fantastic. I think what people don't realize is, in many respects, it is like a comedy Aaron Brockovich in a way. Like, there is a legal drama. Its adherence to being a courtroom drama is so fun and funny that it really got me. I was like, I love that they're following through on this.

47:13It's not loosey-goosey. It's absolutely a courtroom drama featuring Looney Tunes.

47:20Jason Mantzoukas:And my buddy, Dave Green, he directed this movie. So good. And I just have to give him so much credit for, I mean, what he has been through. But more importantly, that he got Peter Lorre, the animated version of Peter Lorre, to be a main character in this. Which I think honestly just shows you how true this is to a vision. It's not like it's not, it is a very specific thing. It's not like a Space Jam 2 situation. It's not like a craven attempt to like cash in on these characters. It's actually an incredibly clever take on bringing all of these characters. Because one of the things that's great is because it's a courtroom drama, they can introduce into evidence all of the cartoons from the 30s and 40s.

48:05So they're playing they're playing Looney Tunes cartoons that are that are from the 40s as pieces of evidence in the courtroom. It's a blast.

48:13Jason Mantzoukas:I absolutely loved it. It was like, and it's just like, it's fun. And Forte, you know, we love Will Forte. The fucking best. He does stuff in this movie that I just think is like really smart and small. He's also hilarious, but it's like he - He's also acting against no one. No one. He's in scenes with cartoon characters. So he's doing this all alone, which is always impressive to me. And beyond that, it's not even like he's doing a scene with a character that speaks. The character doesn't even speak, so he really has to do a lot of work. I mean, that first moment where they're checking into the hotel room is the physical comedy in that is great.

48:53Yes, it's absolutely hilarious. And he I'm just that this is a movie that I feel like if all of this nonsense around and I don't frankly understand even the why. I know it's a tax write down and selling the company and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But this movie would have made money. Yeah, I think. I think this movie, had it been properly released with a P &A that was meaningful, it could have been a huge movie.

49:21Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I think what they don't understand is, and where people, it is a success, right? It is a success. It came in number two. Right. But it is a success on a$10 million marketing budget. budget and that is so like small potatoes in like major film releases like it just doesn't allow you to get the word out in a way that is actually impactful at all so for this movie to make that much on so little like that's even like you have to look at it even like that so you're right like if it actually had it would have been huge and it didn't have any of the the kind of um whiff of uh Oh, it was canceled.

50:03Or if it just appeared, was promoted and like hit, I think it would have hit hard.

50:09Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, I totally agree. Now, have you been watching Lanterns at all? Yes. Yeah. I'm having a blast with Lanterns. I like it. I think it's really good. It's fun. I think it's fun. And I think it's like, you know, I'm watching it. I'm listening to podcasts about it. House of R is doing great podcasts about it. The Watch Boys are talking about it. Great. It's all great. to me this is the level at which we should be able to execute IP TV shows you know like I don't think people like in in the sense of like people are like oh it's so much like true detective and and it is in in a certain amount of ways and I'm enjoying that component of it but I also feel like there's this way in which people are talking about it like it's it's good it's like true detective it's not like um secret invasion like well yeah you know and i'm like yeah i'm like well sure but it's also not like true detective it's not as good as true detective but this is the thing and i felt this way when i got a chance to see wonder man way before anyone else did so good i was so good it's the same idea i'm like oh this is an fx show yeah and i feel like that's the distinction to a certain degree it's like oh these are these are different ways of kind of treating these characters it's It's just, it's, it's, it's, yes, it's elevated drama.

51:26Jason Mantzoukas:It's like a drama. Yes. In the way that right now, if you went to secret headquarters to buy comics and you picked up Spider-Man, you picked up, right, Immortal Thor, you picked up a bunch of books, they would tonally be very different from each other. Yes. You know, they would have, some would be more mature than others. Some would be more all ages. Some would be smaller stories. Some would be epic crossovers. With the same characters. All of, exactly. Exactly. And all pulling from the same characters in the same world. And that's what I feel like DC is doing pretty well. I think DC with lanterns, but then the lanterns tone is very different than the Superman Supergirl tone, which is big, bright poppy.

52:07And that's all going to be very different from whatever this clay face tone is, which looks to be body horror Cronenberg type stuff. So I like that they're doing, It doesn't feel like DC is beholden to one house style look tone. And so I'm enjoying it. It's great.

52:26Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, I'm not like, I've never been a big lanterns person. Like I'm not, I'll go one step further. I think Green Lantern is dumb. Okay. So as a power set. Right. I'm enjoying it from like, I'm not a fan of lanterns, but I'm a fan of everybody involved, especially Tom King. and I gotta tell you he's got a new book out which is really fun called Six of Us it's kind of like a riff on friends but it's like a murder mystery it's so cool it's like basically it's like a sitcom cast and one of them gets killed and it's like a little mini series and so far I just read the first one and I think it's great it's really really fun Tom King friend of the show, fan of the show, we know, is genuinely one of the great comics writers of this era.

53:18And, you know, we've talked in the past about his Rorschach book, his Adam Strange book, all those books that are so incredible. And so all the stuff he did with Mitch Garrods, who did one of our tour posters, incredible, who was there the night of the Drop Dead Fred episode. Love that.

53:36Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, Tom King also, I believe if it's Supergirl, the movie is based on his book of Supergirl. And that book is amazing. Woman of Tomorrow. Read that book. You'll be a fantastic book. Anyway, I feel like there's so much in this show that I'm really enjoying. And it's also a sweet spot for me because all I want to watch is detective shows. And this is a detective show. Another detective show that has just returned for a new season that I will shut out is the series of miniseries that are built around a book series. I don't know what the books are called, but Leslie Manville stars in them.

54:17It's on PBS Masterpiece right now. The first ones were called Magpie Murders. The second season was called Something Else Murders. And the third season that just started is called The Marble Hall Murders. Fantastic. Leslie Manville is a book editor, and the man whose books she edited is a, writes a kind of Agatha Christie whodunit series. And then he dies, and she, so the stories take place in modern times while Leslie Manville's trying to solve the current mystery. But then also it pops into the narrative of the books because the guy wrote clues to all the stories in the books. so it has this period component to it which is the interior story of the book and then the exterior which is modern day Leslie and they are a blast oh I love that I I just was looking at this as a

55:10Jason Mantzoukas:novel and the novels seem even great like oh I bet they're great I haven't touched the novels I bet they're great the the mini there's six episodes each classic British kind of setup absolutely dynamite the new season just started the first two seasons are available like i said i think pbs masterpiece yes they are on pbs as well um but uh incredible now i've watched a movie uh that i was surprised i know we're coming up to scary season eventually in october here but i had never seen the witch have you seen the witch haven't seen the witch all right so this is the like the uh robert eggers right anya taylor joy like whoa it was great i don't know how i missed it and it is one that I like I like to sometimes recommend uh movies that are uh not too scary for people who don't like scary like people like I don't like scary movies this movie is great and like it is I it's a very old pull but I was like oh I just haven't been like caught into a world and this is obviously his first film um so it's a lot smaller than like Nosferatu and stuff like that but it has all that sort of stuff the text the way the children speak is all you know technically correct.

56:18Jason Mantzoukas:They're like shooting in the middle of a forest. It really, really, really good. The witch, if you've not gotten around to it, which surprisingly you're not alone. I've talked to a handful of people and people, there's a bunch, you know, I'm especially my, one of my true blind spots is horror. I'm not a, I don't love horror movies, so they end up being the ones that I get, you're not reaching for them. Yeah. You know? And so there's a bunch of really great recent, like, you know, past 10 or so years, horror movies that I just haven't watched. What's the, it follows. Oh, right. It follows, right.

56:56Which it, cause didn't the same filmmaker just make the dinosaur movie? Yes. Yes. Yes. That has come up again. And I was reminded, oh, I never saw it follows. So it's like that.

57:06Jason Mantzoukas:Well, you know, I have to say that, uh, you would love and this is not a shock to anybody but obsession is so good it's so funny yeah and uh and it's just a real like a real treat of a movie like that i was again i the summer i've been traveling a bunch i haven't gotten to to be at home uh and when i finally got to watch it i was like oh the hype is real on this this is really good and again that's great it's there it's it's there for you to to enjoy let me shout out a couple of other movies just while we're on movies You mentioned how whoever bobbled the Jason Statham release. Another terribly bobbled release for a, I will say, incredible movie is the Avatar Aang movie, which they accidentally leaked as well and then robbed that movie of its potential huge audience reception.

57:59This is a feature length movie starring Aang and the gang from Avatar The Last Airbender, but as adults. So this movie takes place between the end of Avatar The Last Airbender and the beginning of The Legend of Korra. And it was fantastic. Absolutely loved it. Love those characters. I mentioned in an episode recently, I think, John Early's movie Maddie's Secret is absolutely one of the best movies of the year. Everybody should watch it. Another movie I will shout out that was so fucking funny. One of the funniest moments in a movie I've seen this year is the scene where John Slattery's foot is caught in a door in the David Wayne movie, Gail Daughtry's Celebrity Sex Pass, which is an incredibly funny, very David Wayne movie.

58:48Jason Mantzoukas:It's very much, if you love like Wet Hot, it is so in that pocket. It's so good. But it's so funny. And there is a joke in here that is 1 million percent David Wayne. And it is just the John Slattery getting his foot stuck in a slamming door. And it made me laugh so hard I started to get lightheaded. It was really very funny. There is so much stuff. And I got to tell you, everyone's great in that movie. I really like a lot of people. But Ben Wang, that kid is really funny. He was in that new Karate Kid movie that came out, like Karate Kid Legends. He's in Long Walk, which is great. But man, I am excited to see more of him.

59:29Jason Mantzoukas:He's fantastic. I agree. Really great. I mentioned as well the Motor City movie that is Alan Richson crazy action movie. I thought it was fantastic. The Earth, Wind & Fire documentary that Questlove just did for HBO is an incredible watch. Really great. These are a bunch of good things. These are some great stuff. I'll shout out the Batman, the new Batman animated, Cape Crusader season two is out. A continuation of the first season, which is great. So good. There's a great and incredible anime called Witch Hat Atelier that I just finished and was absolutely blown away by. I'm also obsessed with an anime called Bochy the Rock, which is about a socially awkward girl who just wants to be in a rock and roll band.

1:00:13I like that. I'll watch that. But this is my headline. My headline is there is an Australian show called The Newsreader. Okay. That is, I think there's two or three seasons, and it is one of the best, like, one-hour dramas I've seen in a while. It is phenomenal. 100 % of Rotten Tomatoes. It is dynamite. And the woman who's the lead, whose name I'm not going to remember now. Anna Torrey? Yes. Anna Torve? Is it Torve? Oh, Torve.

1:00:42Jason Mantzoukas:Torve, yes. Anna Torve is giving— Oh, my God. She's from Fringe. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay, I love Fringe. I didn't see Fringe. Okay, so she's the lead of Fringe. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, then, because, so I'm just, maybe I've seen her in other stuff, but this performance is electric to watch. Oh, I loved her. It is a phenomenal show. I thought she was so good in that show. It's dynamite. It's, you know, like, all joking aside, like, I really enjoyed Sterling Point. I like a lot of the other stuff. This is a phenomenal show. Okay. Well, this is, that, now, I mean, there's so many, so many things.

1:01:15I will tell you stuff. And I'm just going to only just last but not least say if you're driving around at night, listen to the new boards of Canada record Inferno. And if you're driving around any other time, listen to the new Tierra Whack album.

1:01:27Jason Mantzoukas:I want to also shout out the new Wolves of Glendale album is great. They're on tour right now. We are friends with them. They've composed some songs for the show. The new album is so, so good. But the album that I really want to shout out is the new Mastodon album, which is fantastic. They actually came on Dark Web and they were great. But this album is, I mean, I just, I have been listening to it a ton. And I love it. They also just did a great episode of the Amoeba What's in My Bag YouTube series that had some great picks on it. Yeah, they're just a fun band. And if you don't know anything about them, their lead singer was having some substance abuse problems.

1:02:06Jason Mantzoukas:He left the band. And then in that time where he left the band, he passed away. And so this album is very much kind of dealing with that grief and that anger. and it's a really cathartic but cool album. Yeah. Can I just ask for something? Just because sometimes I ask for things and the audience sends them to us. Yeah, yes. I'm looking for the documentary Tony Williams in Africa, which is about the jazz drummer Tony Williams. I'm curious about that. I'm looking for that. I'm looking for Under Saltmarsh, the British Kelly Riley show. And then there's some other stuff, But, you know, we'll see what the people come up with.

1:02:46All right, Jason, what a pleasure.

1:02:47Jason Mantzoukas:We will talk soon. Thank you, Paul. All right, now that our Just Chat has come to an end, it is finally the moment you've all been waiting for. It is time to announce our next movie. Next week, we'll be going from a sperm that aged too fast to a worm from the ancient past. Ooh, I like this. That means that we'll be kicking off our spooky movie season with the 1988 bonkers cult horror classic, The Lair of the White Worm, starring Hugh Grant, Amanda Donahoe, and Peter Capaldi. That's right, Doctor Who himself. Now, IMDb says, when an archaeologist uncovers a strange skull in a foreign land, the residents of a nearby town begin to disappear, leading to further inexplicable occurrences.

1:03:26Jason Mantzoukas:Rotten Tomatoes rates the lair of the white worm at a 67 % fresh, and critic Ty Burr writes Russell's version of a horror film, an over-the-top hoot. It is perfect for an All Hallows' Eve drinking game or for terrifying the neighbor's kids by projecting it onto the side of your house. Ty Burr, I cannot think of a better way to describe this movie. This movie is awesome. All right, let's take a listen to the trailer. Something's been found in Stone Rake Cavern. Legend has it that Stone Rake Cavern was the lair of the Danton Worm. My God. When the venom attacks the nervous system, the victim appears to be afflicted by a form of vampirism.

1:04:04I hear you're having trouble with a snake. ah and you're going to uphold family tradition and slay the beastie are you out of your mind

1:04:13Jason Mantzoukas:you can stream layer of the white worm on prime video to be canopy and hoopla or you can rent it at all the usual places where you'd rent movies all right everybody that is it for last looks if you listen to us on apple podcast or spotify please rate review us and also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on it helps the show it helps the show so do that please and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media at HTTGM and a big thank you to our producer Scott Sonny and Molly Reynolds, our engineer Casey Holford, our social media manager Zoe Applebaum and we'll of course be forever thankful to the one and only Averill Halley.

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