Last Looks: Surf II

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2:24Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Surf 2, a movie that honestly, I mean, it just grossed us out. We were utterly disgusted by this movie, but also kind of loved it. I tell you that Aaron Renee, one of our Discord users, thought the movie should have had the tagline, Surf 2, Grease 3, Eugene's Revenge. I love it. Thank you, Aaron Renee, for that alt tagline. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or a title, submit it to us on our Discord, and we might just read it on the show. All right, it is 4th of July, people. So we'll be hearing all your corrections and omissions on Surf 2.

3:06There's not going to be a lot of them, because a lot of you people are out on vacation, living the life, not trying to correct us, just letting us live. But we will get to those corrections and omissions. Plus, we have a deleted scene from last week's episode, which you're going to love. And Jason's not here. He's also on vacation. It's just me, fresh home from F1, which I fucking loved. It's the best. I mean, yes, is the bad guy a little complicated to understand sure but i don't care um it's like top gun maverick but dumber but in a way that makes it better i don't know i'm still processing it anyway uh we have so much to get to but we'll also reveal next week's episode but before we get too far into things i have to give a shout out to quinn Quinn, I love that opening theme song.

4:05It was so good. Good for you. Good for all of you. I love doing this show every week. Week after week, I am here for you. And you are here for me because you deliver the best last look episode themes in the world. No one else has as good themes as we do. So keep them coming. Just go to httgm.com. That's our website. There's a little button there. You hit submit a song, and that's how you could submit songs to this. It's easy. Keep them short, though, right? Brevity is the soul of wit, and I believe that was said by Michael Bay. All right. Next week, Pacific Northwest, you've been warned. Dinosaur Improv is coming to Seattle and Portland.

4:50July 9th at the Neptune Theater. July 10th at the Portland Theater, which is also the Aladdin Theater. I like to call it the Portland Theater. We'll be at the Aladdin on the 10th, and we'll be at the Neptune on the 9th. Joining us is Edie Patterson from The Righteous Gemstones and Resident Alien. It's going to be me, Jason, Edie, Hubel, Seth Morris, Carl Tartt, Owen Burke, Chad Carter, and then get ready. How Did This Get Made? We'll be in Vancouver on the 12th. Okay, we have changed locations. Repeat, How Did This Get Made? And Vancouver has changed locations. You should have been notified by your ticket seller, broker, whatever you call the people you buy tickets from.

5:31We are now at the Vogue Theater, and we might, as of this recording, be completely sold out. So, heads up, Vancouver is at the Vogue Theater now. We cannot wait to see you, and we'll be talking about the 2001 Sylvester Stallone car racing drama, Driven, which will not live up to my F1 IMAX experience. Oh man, you know, we have two IMAX theaters, a true IMAX theaters in LA. One's on CityWalk. One is at the Kodak Theater, the Dolby Theater, the big one, Man's Chinese Theater is what I call it. And I got to tell you this, beautiful IMAX, great sound, saw RRR there, seen a lot of movies there. Concessions suck ass there.

6:20They're terrible concessions. It's like the concessions are trapped in 1984. I don't get it. I don't get why the concessions are so bad there. Anyway, that's just a shout out to a very specific problem that I have with one of the only two IMAX theaters here. And I know there's these other theaters. Oh, we have IMAX presentation. It's not IMAX. It ain't IMAX, buddy. It ain't IMAX. Anyway, if you haven't heard, this is going to be too abrupt of a change of tone here. You know, we have been celebrating bad movies for over 15 years on this show. And one of the reasons why this show is so good is our movie picks.

7:01And the main person responsible for these amazing movie picks has been, for as long as I can remember, Averill Halley. Averill Halley is one of our movie picking producers. I mean, she is our movie picking producer. and she is going through a battle right now with brain cancer. And, you know, she has asked for some love. That's really one of the most beautiful things. If that tells you anything about Averill, it should tell you everything. We were hoping that if you have a second, you could send her an email, some fan art, just something to brighten her day at andrew at moviebitches.xyz. You can send it right to andrew at moviebitches.xyz.

7:50Just a little note, even checking in if you've done it before. And if you want to send or something, nothing perishable and nothing scented, you can send it to Averill Halley, P.O. Box 641, Agora Hills, California, 91376. Averill is truly one of the kindest, nicest people I have met. I've loved my time working with her. We can't wait to have her back. Just, you know, if you have a second, send her some love. Okay, that is all that I got. Let's get into it. Last week, we talked at length about Serv 2. Well, not that long, just regular. We had questions. And you know what? We might have even missed a few things.

8:27Here's your chance to set a straight fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. with your bad attitude. You know you got nothing to prove. How did this get made? They've got a mission to cover all the things that they've been missing on a little section that they call Corrections and Omissions. Boom! That's Action Jackson 5. That's like, was that Dark Ska? I mean, is it called Dark Ska? I love it. All right, let's go to the Discord. Dov. Dov. Dov writes, the Buzz Cola International Surf Trophy that they gave Eric Stoltz at the end is a woman's bowling trophy. I'm looking at a picture of it and you are correct.

9:15And you know what? This movie gets it. I'm not here to pick apart this movie. This movie gets it. But Dove also goes on to say the sign above the store said, Sir Boards, Sir Boards, because I assume they didn't give an F. Oh, I like that Dove. So many Easter eggs and other things just for the audience. They definitely had a blast. You know, this is stuff that actually came up during the fan Q &As. We cut it out for time. But yes, sirboards and groceries is a great notice, a great find, if you will. And the Discord is full of these finds. Pictures, everything is so beautifully detailed. Mitch Kappa, Chunk Star writes, giving the nerdiest couple two full pages in the yearbook seems really extravagant.

10:05Well, Mitch Kappa, we all know the nerds put together the yearbook. So of course, but they were called the nerdiest couple. Maybe it's a small school. I had a, I went to a small private school when I was very young and I still have my yearbook from it. And, um, there was only one senior. so it was like junior class uh sophomore class and then it was the senior the senior and it was a full page picture of her um lonely that seems so lonely but back then it felt so cool uh ghost bag writes does eddie deason's character in this film create buzz cola with three z's with the intention of initially putting the surfers to sleep oh and the zombification isn't like is a unintended consequence?

10:54Okay, wait, wait, wait, Ghostbag, let me go with you. I like this. What if the buzz cola means zombies? Buzz and the extra Z is for a zombie. Ghostbag, we got something. Let's go to the phones. First up, Rob. Oh, we know where Rob is from. Rob from Long Island. What do you got? Hey, guys, it's Rob from Long Island. Just listening to the Serve 2 podcast, and you talked about a thong, and you were surprised that the Beach Boys sang about thongs, but in the olden days, thong was referred to flip-flops, basically, because it's that little strip that goes between your toes. It's kind of like what we think of now as a strip between your legs or whatever.

11:36So a thong is basically a, it could be a flip-flop or a bikini bottom or something like that. So that's why that's that. All right. Bye. Well, how about that? finally learning something on this show. And you know what, Rob? I looked it up in the dictionary, which is I just typed into Google and I typed in definition. And a thong is defined as a narrow strip of leather and or other material used especially as a fastener or as the lash of a whip and also a skimpy bathing suit or a pair of underpants. Well, well, well, thank you. I'm glad that my image of the Beach Boys stays untarnished thanks to you.

12:20All right, next up, a lot of calls from Seattle. And by the way, we are so excited to come back to Seattle on a Wednesday. And you guys are buying tickets for a Wednesday? Hell yeah, Seattle. We fucking love you. All right, John, what do you got? Hey, Paul, I haven't done this in a long time. This is John. You helped me out a lot with my kids with some questions back in the day. I just want to kind of give you a full circle follow-up. We were at your Seattle show a couple weeks ago where you got the legendary shirt from Ben of Thieves. The very next week I went to CinemaCon, and we got to watch a screening of How to Train Your Dragon with Gerard Butler.

13:02And I only had, like, two seconds to talk to him, and he was either get a picture with him or show him my phone where I took a picture of you wearing the shirt. So I chose option B and I showed him the picture of your shirt, you wearing the shirt at the show. He was stoked. He started laughing and he was like, I'm glad it's got a good home. So anyway, that's basically it's dumb, but I thought you would enjoy hearing that. All right. Love the show. Bye. Well, John, I'm glad to hear that my advice has gone over well. But let me tell you this. More importantly, you did the right thing. I know that it would be cool to have a picture with Jerry B.

13:40but you do a moment like that as someone who has to deal with a lot of different people in my life and people come up that's going to stick out in his head you did done right you did done right john i i appreciate you taking your moment to share it with him um i appreciate you calling in i appreciate you being back on the show but i'm going to just say uh i know it's a bummer not to have a picture with him, but I got to tell you that story might live on longer with him. And then you are part of it. So, I mean, you're not getting to benefit from it, but just know that was awesome. And a way to go that he's doing a train your dragon screening in Seattle.

14:25My buddy produced that movie and way to go for that whole team. They're awesome. We went to visit them as a matter of fact, when they were shooting, when we were in, um, Belfast. Yeah. Okay, next up, Katie. Oh, not Katie. Jafar. What do you got, Jafar? It's Katie from Seattle, but yet again, anyone listening to this is going to know me as Jafar. So fuck it. I guess I'm just Jafar now. I'm calling with an answer for Jason because yelling from the upper balcony like a true monster is absolutely not the best way to convey information. At the time, it just seemed really vital that we clear up what I'm now referring to as Crawlgate.

15:00Okay, so, after the huge reveal about there being a director's cut, Jason wondered what else is different between the two versions, apart from the crawl. Which, by the way, I'm pretty sure either replaces or plays over the montage most of us saw with the carbuncle feet. Because I think Jason would remember it if he had seen those monstrosities. But aside from the crawl giving you the entire plot of the movie up front, there's literally only one other significant difference. The director's cut has significantly more nudity. When Jason said he loved the movie so much because I had topless scenes every 15 minutes like clockwork, it made me realize I must have watched the wrong version, because while I saw some big American naturals, I definitely didn't see that many big naturals.

15:40Naturals aside, though, I agree with you. It was way more fun not having the crawl and having to try to make sense of what's happening while absolute mayhem unfolds. Sincerely, thank you so much to everyone who makes the podcast, especially the live shows, happen. Not just for the great episodes, but for giving nerds like me a place to indulge very specific, very strange creative pursuits. When Surf One happens, I want to be in the costume department. Thanks so much. Take care. Katie, you are definitely hired on Surf One. I like this explanation. I'm wrapping my head around it, and I think you're right.

16:16I think it is better that we understand the movie less, leave more to our imagination. And thank you for coming in great costume. I will say if you come out to see dinosaur, no costumes needed. But I believe you might actually be coming to Vancouver. So we hope to see you there. All right. Next up, Luke from, you guessed it, Seattle. Hey, Paul. Had a great time at the Surf 2 show. Hoping to catch you guys in a week or so for dinosaur. so not necessarily correction or omission, but more theory I wanted to posit. The more I think about, the more I've convinced myself it's true. But I think this movie might have inspired one of the more iconic images in modern pop culture, and that's the image of Homer Simpson just choking the shit out of Bart, a la Chuck and Bob's dads when the guys come out of the water from competing in the surf competition.

17:14or surf competition, they just wrangle their necks. And the first thing I thought, boy, that looks a lot like Homer choking Bart. I also think Matt Groening, being a guy in California at that time, being a fellow Pacific Northwest weirdo and someone whose dad made surf movies when Matt Groening was a child, I think it's very possibly true. So that's what I think. I want to give a shout-out to Avel and just want to thank her for all the weird-ass movies that she's brought into my life and putting me on some watch lists probably. So take care, guys. Hope to see you for Dinosaur. Wow. Okay. Well, first of all, thank you for buying a ticket or hopefully buying a ticket to come see us in Seattle.

18:00No pressure. But this might be the best connection yet. You know, I gave a lot to Rob from Long Island. I've given a lot. I mean, look, this is actually one of the better corrections of missions we've had. This is tricky. I don't know where we're going to land at this. All right. But I'll tell you this much, Luke, you were not the only one that saw that Simpsons connection. There were a lot of Simpsons connections, which make me believe your theory even more. So you can check out our Instagram because on our Instagram, we are going to post all the Simpsons connections that we have found in this movie.

18:37And they are great. I mean, Buzz Cola of references. There are the transformation of Sparkle. You're going to see. It's good. I believe you. You know what? Luke, you might have really cracked open a whole gold mine here. Anyway, let's go back to the Discord. John Steele writes, Hey Paul, that's a fellow lover of One Crazy Summer. I just want to bring up the appearance of Tom Villard, aka Clay Stork, Bobcat Goldfein's on-screen twin as Jocko the Surf Zombie. Oh yes, I did notice. And I'm glad you pointed it out. I did not bring it up because I felt like I would have to explain so many different parts of it and it was out of, but yes, John, I saw Tom Villard.

19:20I was psyched to see Tom Villard. I love the Stork brothers. I'm a big fan of One Crazy Summer. And if you've not seen it, what a perfect time to watch it. Last year, we were in Nantucket for the film festival doing How Did This Get Made show there. And we watched One Crazy Summer, which shot a lot on Nantucket back then, and it was a real, it was fun for the whole family. Anyway, this one's going to maybe boggle your mind. From Fun Facts 47, even though Eric Stoltz lost out on sharing the screen with Biff Tannen in Back to the Future, if you don't know that story, look it up. I don't need to get into it here.

19:53He did star in this movie with a different Biff, Biff Maynard, who played Bob's dad. Now, it would have been more of a coincidence if Biff played Chuck, that's Eric Stoltz's dad, instead. Well, yes, that would have been the coincidence we would have needed. And fun facts 47, that feels like a 47th fun fact. Like you got the good ones out of the way and now you're getting like, you're digging a little bit deeper than you need to. JXL writes, I was fascinated by the character arc of Big Head. He starts off with some self-awareness, joking about cheating his way to a 53 on his IQ test, and then tacks on a bow wow as a sketch phrase early on.

20:31As the movie progresses, his dialogue is stripped down to just a sketch phrase. Did he do some lasting damage to himself in that garbage eating contest? I'm going to say Big Ed, I think, was suffering once he started eating a chain link fence, which was right in the opening scene. You can't digest that. That's too much metal. I'm in the garbage eating contest at that point. I think his brain was already gone. A bow wow. All right. So many great corrections and omissions this week. But man, oh man, what could it be? What could it be? I have to say, Seattle brought it this week. I want to give Seattle the winner of the week, but that's unfair to give it to all of Seattle.

21:12It would be like, I'm kind of like, oh, giving them too much. I'm going to give it to Luke from Seattle, who pointed out this giant Simpsons connection that I've never heard about or knew about, and I love it. So Luke from Seattle, you are the winner. And guess what, Luke? I normally say you win nothing, but guess what? I'm going to give you two tickets to Dinosaur if you want them in Seattle on me. I'm comping you. Just hit us up. I don't know how to do that, but hit us up. Hit us up at howdidthisgetmadeatdearwolf.com. No. Well, on Discord? You're on the Discord. Yeah. So just hit us up on the Discord.

21:56We'll figure it out. Okay. You win.

22:04You win. Yay! Okay. That was more complicated than it needed to be. Anyway, if you want to chime in with your own thoughts about the latest episode, hit up the Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm or call us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Coming up after the break, it's Paul's pick. But first, take a listen to this bonus deleted scene from Surf 2, where we talk about the origins of Surf 2 and it being in 3D and how this movie is connected to our home theater in Los Angeles, The Largo at the Cornette. All right. So take a listen to that. All right. Let's see. Okay. Oh, Joshua Cadman was cast as Johnny Big Head after impressing producers by drinking an entire six pack during his audition.

22:50There were unsafe work conditions on this film. I know it. That is unsettling to me. That's unsettling. We did hear that the writer-director had suffered a surfing injury to the face and while on Painkillers he wrote this movie in two days. It was originally called Frankie and Annette Go to Hell. I love that too. And then he retitled it Surf Death, the movie. And then And then basically he made it into surf trash, which was sold at Cannes as a 3D film. Cannes? Yes. So they sold it at Cannes as a 3D film. And while it was not shot in 3D, it wasn't. they did use a lot of images that they felt like, oh, maybe we'll turn this into 3D.

23:39Because some setups seem to be 3D. And then... The scene where the boobs keep slapping the guy in the face would have been incredible. In 3D? Forget about it. That'd be incredible. I'd never leave my room. Yeah. Now, here's another, two interesting connections here. So they had, when they finished the movie, the studio was like, Jason, Jason, come back. I'm just picturing it and I'm like, Calgon, take me away. When they finished the movie, the studio was like, we can't release this. So they had to kind of add in a bunch of the new sex and gross out gags. And they really wanted to capitalize on Revenge of the Nerds.

24:24So they originally titled it Surf 2, The Nerds Strike Back. But that came away. And now this is the best part of it. We perform at Largo, which is the Coronet Theater. This film premiered at the Coronet Theater at Largo for the overflow. So basically, kids who couldn't get into the premiere went to Largo to watch Surf 2. Wow. So that's maybe, I mean, look. So we've been in the same theater that premiered Surf 2? Yeah, what a piece of history. Wait, Paul, can I ask you a question? I think we might have covered this. So those boobs were added post? Yes. Really? Not all. Not all, but more. I think a bunch of the very inserts that are very close cut are the reshoots simply because they don't have any other people around them.

25:25And those people might already have their boobs might have fallen by the time they were doing the reshoots. Fallen off? Fallen down. Fallen down? There's a lot of sun damage going on. I don't know. You think the sun makes boobs fall down? Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, because they grow away from... Yeah, gravity. Look at gravity. Okay, gravity I understand, but you think the sun controls gravity? I think that sun damage doesn't do great things for big American naturals. Oh, so now the naturals are American, as they should be. You will be surprised to know that... We're going to build that bra. Yeah!

26:09that the way that they sold this movie at Cannes was around Sparkle. What? Was she a name? Well, it's Linda Carriage. That was the one they were like, it's going to be a Linda Carriage movie. We'll go see a Linda Carriage movie. This is bizarre that this movie was ever in Cannes. Well, I think they do that to sell a lot of weird movies. It's like a lot of movies come out of Cannes. Like, oh, we've got the financing for it. The Palme d 'Or Award goes to Surf 2. For kids, summer means freedom. And as adults, summer still means freedom thanks to Mint Mobile's summer sale. Right now, all of Mint's plans are$15 per month, even unlimited.

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