In short
This episode of How Did This Get Made? “Last Looks: The Forbidden Dance” is a listener-driven corrections-and-omissions segment about the movie The Forbidden Dance, plus a chat with guest Jason. Topic: fact-checking and expanding details from the film, including dance specifics (lombada/taxi dancing), language, and actor/character trivia; plus discussion of related pop culture and upcoming episode Mindhunters.
Guests
Paul Scheer (host) and Jason (co-host/regular), plus multiple listener callers/Discord users (e.g., John Steele, Mitch Kappa, Sean McBee, Elle, anonymous caller, Ginger, Adjective Animal, My fake Iron Lung). Key claims/examples: Richard Lynch (called “Rucker Hauer’s brother”) had severe Central Park fire scars; Nisa’s “lombata” dance changes each time; taxi dancing is an early-1900s “diamond dance” concept; Nisa spoke Spanish (not Portuguese); Lombada was remade as J.Lo/Pitbull “On the Floor” and re-entered charts in 2011. Notable example: anonymous caller describes a Spanish adult-PSA where Pornhub views funded Ocean Polymers cleanup.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOListener Corrections and Omissions
1:51 to 2:52
Explore listener insights and corrections regarding 'The Forbidden Dance'.
“Hello, all you Kid Creole and the Coconut fans.”
Discussions on the Film's Themes
3:02 to 4:48
Engage in a conversation about themes from 'The Forbidden Dance' and its characters.
“your corrections, your omissions about the forbidden dance in just a bit.”
Insightful Calls from Listeners
4:48 to 7:10
Hear callers share their thoughts and insights on the film and related topics.
“and TV because of these scars that happened in a 1967 incident in New York City's Central Park, where he did light himself on fire.”
Engaging with Spicy PSAs
7:10 to 15:08
Discussion on a spicy PSA concept that ties into environmental awareness.
“I don't know if you've seen our shirt for this, but Jason Needs a Swayze is a pretty great new design that we have in our TeePublic store.”
Catching Up with Jason
16:16 to 17:00
Discussion about recent events and personal updates between the hosts.
“We used to call these matinees, but now we're calling them classics.”
Memorable Movie Experience
17:01 to 17:48
Jason shares a memory related to the movie 'Club Paradise'.
“I felt there's been so much stuff going on.”
Diving into Scrooge McDuck's Pool
17:49 to 19:48
A humorous discussion about the concept of diving into a pool of coins.
“And at one point, Peter O'Toole's like, you're running this place into the ground.”
Insights from Jackass Set
19:49 to 21:37
Jason shares insights and experiences from visiting the set of Jackass 5.
“And I think the thing that was, that kind of blew my mind about it was when you're there, they're, they're shooting them at the pace in which you watch them.”
Poopies' Shark Week Incident
21:38 to 23:24
Discussing Poopies' shark incident during filming and the aftermath.
“And he was like, we all knew this was not a smart thing.”
TV Show Rights Issues
23:25 to 24:40
Exploration of music rights issues related to old TV shows like Jackass.
“And I just was like, it again, because my kids have gone so deep into it.”
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Extended Cuts and Unreleased Footage
24:41 to 26:32
Discussion on the release of extended cuts and their unique content.
“Oh, well, I mean, a box set of all of the Jackass stuff would be so fucking funny.”
Jackass and Lord of the Rings
26:33 to 28:29
Comparing the Jackass series to the Lord of the Rings films in a humorous context.
“You know, Johnny is my Frodo, and Steve-O is my Pip, and Pontius is my Mary.”
Exploring 'Nirvana the Band the Movie'
28:32 to 29:24
Discussion about the unique narrative structure and humor of 'Nirvana the Band the Movie'.
Documentary Style and Legalities
29:24 to 30:28
Insights into the documentary style and legality of using various media in storytelling.
“I think it's fulfilling on both ways that you watch it.”
Sherlock Adaptations
30:28 to 34:20
Discussion on various adaptations of Sherlock Holmes, including 'Young Sherlock' and 'Sherlock and Daughter'.
“Um, it is to me on a, it's not a prank film.”
The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins
34:20 to 38:35
Review of 'The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins' and its comedic elements.
“I love that Guy Ritchie's second coming is this kind of cool shows and doing this.”
Audience Engagement in Comedy
38:35 to 40:15
The importance of accessibility and engagement in comedy shows and audience reaction.
“And then they played it again and it had like this crazy rating.”
Next Movie Announcement: Mindhunters
40:15 to 42:05
Announcement of the next movie for discussion, 'Mindhunters', and its premise.
“I mean, and that's Nirvana, the band, the show, you know, or the movie.”
Discussion on Mindhunters Trailer
42:05 to 42:41
The hosts react to the trailer for Mindhunters and share thoughts.
“You're all smart or you wouldn't be here.”
Discussion on Mindhunters Trailer
43:08 to 43:42
The hosts react to the trailer for Mindhunters and share thoughts.
“We will see you next week for Mindhunters.”
Transcript
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2:01Jason Mantzoukas:Last Looks, where you, the listener, get to voice your issues on The Forbidden Dance, a movie that Discord user FunFacts47 thinks should have had the tagline The Forbidden Dance. You're tearing me apart, Nisa! And that, of course, is a mediocre Tommy Wiseau impression, but a great alt-movie tagline by FunFacts47. And here's a thought. Do I need to have a great Tommy Wiseau impression? I mean, aren't there enough out there? It's like if you're doing impressions right now, I don't think you need to work on a Schwarzenegger or Christopher Walken. Like those have been covered. So, you know, honestly, by me not doing a great one, I'm doing you a service.
2:40Jason Mantzoukas:Anyway, shout out to Quinn for that opening theme song. I love that. Remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm. And if you have a last looks theme song, go to hdtgm.com and click on submit a song. That's right. It's easy. Remember, keep them short. 15 to 20 seconds is best. We're going to be hearing all about your issues, your corrections, your omissions about the forbidden dance in just a bit. Then Jason's going to pop by. We're going to talk about Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie. also my visit to the brand new jackass movie set and we will reveal next week's film oh it's a big one um now let me tell you we love the forbidden dance we barely saw any problems with it but you you had a lot of problems with it and now here's your chance to set us straight fact check us if you will it is now time for corrections and omissions correct it correct it touch the rhythm Feel the bass, right your wrongs, save some face, give to me, give to them your corrections and a mission.
3:51Jason Mantzoukas:Thank you, Brian B. Love that song. All right, first one up from the Discord is John Steele. Hey, Paul, two things. Hey, John. Number one, I was surprised not to hear Jason's take on Nisa running through a men's bathroom barefoot while they made their escape from the villain. You know what? Honestly, John, I think that there's just too much in this movie to discuss that that was kind of left on the wayside. You know, here's what I'm going to say. Yeah, gross, but also not as gross as those dirty feet in Birdemic. I mean, those live in my mind forever. John Steele also brings up that the actor that we were calling Rucker Hauer's brother is Richard Lynch.
4:33Jason Mantzoukas:John Steele reveals that apparently he set himself on fire while on LSD in the 70s. Our producer Scott chimes in and says, yeah, that is true. He became a very popular nemesis in film and TV because of these scars that happened in a 1967 incident in New York City's Central Park, where he did light himself on fire. 70 % of his body is burned. But wow, way to go. This guy came back as a very hardworking, great actor. So there you go. Can't beat that. And kids don't do drugs. Mitch Kappa writes, one very funny thing that wasn't mentioned. Wow. Another thing that we didn't mention in the episode is how Rucker Hauer's brother eventually reveals his real passion project is to open an evil nightclub.
5:23Jason Mantzoukas:The one dastardly plan that happens to line up perfectly with having captured Nisa. So are you saying that this movie actually makes sense, that his evil plan could only work by capturing an amazing dancer? Well, now this movie works on a whole nother level for me. You may have made the movie make sense. Sean McBee writes, you all talked a lot about how Nisa and Jason never seemed to improve their dancing, but no one mentioned that the dance seemed to never be the same twice. I mean, every single time they danced, the lombata, it appeared to be a completely different dance. You know, Sean, you're right about that.
6:01Jason Mantzoukas:I didn't realize that. In my mind, I was like, oh, they're just doing different parts of the dance. But of course, I don't think that they knew the dance. This is, I love this movie. I really, really do. Let's go to the phones. First up, we have Elle with some very exciting news. Hi, Paul. I am calling with a correction. You all spoke pretty highly about Dirty Dancing during last week's episode of the Forbidden Dance. And the switchblade lady, Nikki, is her name, was actually in Dirty Dancing. I recognized her. She is like the older woman who is married that Patrick Swayze is pleading with before he meets babies.
6:50So I verified this. This is one of the only things that she's been in in these two movies that I've seen. Well, actually, she's been in a few others. Side and Peloton Key. But yeah, wanted to provide some more connected tissue between these two iconic dance movies. Thanks so much. Love the show.
7:10Jason Mantzoukas:I love it. Thank you so much. You know what? But he should have stayed with her. I think he should have stayed with her. He would be more happy with her. And by he, I mean Patrick Swayze. I don't know if you've seen our shirt for this, but Jason Needs a Swayze is a pretty great new design that we have in our TeePublic store. You can just go and get that by going to hdtgm.com and clicking on merch. I do love that. I'm not using that just to sell a shirt. I don't care if you buy the shirt. I think it's a good shirt. But I just want to kind of keep all the connective tissue together. Next up, a call from someone who's anonymous.
8:08Back when I worked in marketing, you know, I would keep up with trends and industry news, and I came across this ad produced by a Spanish agency called Officer and Gentleman. And they partnered with adult film creators to have sex on a beach while it was cleaned up by the organization Ocean Palmers. And for every view the video receives, they would make a donation to this organization. Well, it received five and a half million views and Ocean Balmers got a ton of money because of this not so traditional PSA. Love the show. Love the work that y 'all are doing. Your content is a bomb in these troubling times.
8:59Please keep it up and excited for the next episode. Bye.
9:04Jason Mantzoukas:Whoa, wait, what? That is the most insane story. I have to go find this. I also,$1 per view. So we're, I don't understand even how, okay. Oh, wait. So you, oh, this is great. I love this idea. More spicy PSAs. You should get this done, caller. And by the way, thank you so much for what you said. We love doing this show. And it means a lot that it's a sad for us too. I just think, yes, why not do it? As a matter of fact, Scott is chiming in. There's a whole New York Post article about this PSA. The title is, Can the Dirtiest Porn Ever Help Clean Up Our Filthy Beaches? And yeah, it's a flick. I guess I didn't understand it when you were describing it.
9:54Jason Mantzoukas:But Pornhub, every time you watched it, they would give a donation to Ocean Polymers, a nonprofit organization working on sending a ship to sea to pick up and recycle plastic from the world's waters and spread awareness about this environmental issue. While the Flix sites as the dirtiest porn ever because they wanted to kind of appeal to a lot of fetishes, basically, you never get to see anything in the act that's obscured by garbage until a cleanup crew is there in Pornhub Cares logos. So it's a porn that's safe for your own family, and I'm just looking at some stills from it. And you know what?
10:32Jason Mantzoukas:This is genius. This is a genius thing. All right, back to the Discord. My fake Iron Lung writes, I am surprised that Jason June and John did not mention what Nisa was doing at the brothel. It's something called taxi dancing. It's basically an old timey thing from the early 20th century where a diamond dance girls would dance with businessmen for companionship. The movie sort of merged that older style with a more modern brothel, which was not necessarily the case with taxi dancing. Obviously, Switchblade Lady and her establishment is supposed to be sleazy and in seedy Hollywood, so the conflict would be heightened if it was more akin to sex work.
11:08Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I think we did talk about that. She was just a dollar a dance girl. I mean, and we understand 10 cents a dance is where it was. I feel like this was like taxi dancing with more, right? It starts with taxi dancing, and then it heightens. And she wouldn't heighten, so she just did the taxi dancing. But anyway, it was weird, and I don't think that this was happening. any time around the time of this film. Like you said, it was from the early 20th century. Ginger writes, whenever Nisa spoke to her tribe or the witch doctor, she was speaking Spanish. Shouldn't she have been speaking Portuguese as that's Brazil's official language?
11:43Jason Mantzoukas:You know what? We actually did talk about it. It just wasn't one of the most interesting facts. We just kind of cut it from the episode. Adjective Animal writes, I can't believe they didn't cover the song Lombada was remade into the 2011 Jennifer Lopez plus Pitbull hit On the Floor. Every time that song played in the movie, which was many, I kept on expecting to see Mr. Worldwide to chime in. Apparently On the Floor was so popular that Lombada re-entered the Billboard charts in 2011 after 22 years, hitting number three on the Billboard digital chart. Whoa, I did not know that. And you know what?
12:22I mean, Mr.
12:24Jason Mantzoukas:Worldwide should be in a cameo in every movie. I mean, if there is dancing in the movie, he should be there just to cheer him on. Adjective animal, love this. I cannot believe that we did not know that Lombada re-entered the charts after 22 years. Blew me away. Wow, wow, wow. So many great corrections and omissions this week, but there can only be one that is the best. You know, it's going to be hard for me to figure it out. But I think the one that is our winner is our anonymous caller who led us to the best, most spiciest PSA of all time. That's right. Anonymous, you get this week's prize. And you know what?
13:03Jason Mantzoukas:For having the best correction, we have a very special prize for you, courtesy of a surprise guest. Nope, that wasn't a lion. That was the roar of Nisa's bodyguard and magical shaman. Remember him? That's right, Anonymous. Joa has agreed to provide you with one week of free bodyguard and healing services the next time you travel to Brazil. So to claim your prize, just go to Brazil and Joa will find you. However, I do want to clarify the Had to Skip Made is not paying for your trip to Brazil. And if you choose to use Joa's healing services, you must consent to his pet snake biting your wound. Not a big deal.
13:41Jason Mantzoukas:I think it's worth it because these bodyguard and healing services are top notch. So Anonymous, I know we don't have your official name, but I think you should take us up on this. Thank you, Joah, for supplying such an amazing prize. And for all of you who did not win this completely real prize, you can try your luck next episode by submitting your corrections and omissions on our Discord or by calling us at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. Okay, coming up after this quick break, Jason will stop by to chat about movies and TV. that we are loving, plus so much more. Stick around.
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16:24Jason Mantzoukas:This week's classic episode is on the erotic thriller Jade. So keep on checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. And now, without any further ado, it is time to welcome to Last Looks for a little Just Chat, my friend, Jason. Anton Wellen, play us in!
17:01Jason Mantzoukas:Jason, how are you? Paul, boy, oh boy. Thrilled to see you. How are you? I am thrilled to see you as well. I felt there's been so much stuff going on. I haven't seen you in a little bit of time. It's been too long. It's been too long. And we were in the middle of spring break. And I know you go hard. You go down to Florida. You know, I go down to Florida. I've got, I rent a house with a guitar-shaped pool. Oh, yeah, so fun. You know, you enter the neck and you come out the fretboard. You know, it's really, it's a cool spot. Did I ever tell you this story? I might have, and forgive me if I'm retelling it, but when I was seeing Club Paradise for the first time, which is like a Robin Williams movie from the 80s, it's like Robin Williams and Peter O'Toole.
17:43Jason Mantzoukas:And I think the premise of it is that Robin Williams like takes over a Club Med style resort, like full party, adult party thing. And at one point, Peter O'Toole's like, you're running this place into the ground. and and he goes i'm finding diaphragms in the pool and i didn't know what that was and uh and i was trying to find out for my dad i was like dad what it's like um what's a diaphragm he's like oh that's how you control your breathing i'm like great so could you lose that in the pool it was like oh what a strange thing for your dad to have to put together oh and then he was like oh no that's that's another kind of no that's that's a different kind of diaphragm oh my god but you have a lot of I guess what I was saying was you have a lot of diaphragms in your pool.
18:29Well, see, I have one of those, you know, um, when, uh, Scrooge McDuck dives into the pool of gold coins. Yeah. Uh, that's what my pool is like, except it's just diaphragms. I actually have no water in it. It's just diaphragms.
18:44Jason Mantzoukas:Well, there is water in it. Cause there's the diaphragms do absorb something. Yes, there is a little bit of water, but really it is mostly diaphragms. Um, I'm surprised that in this year of our Lord, 2026, uh, we have not ever seen anyone attempt a Scrooge McDuck dive into a pool full of coins. How has that not been a Mr. Beast thing? Yeah. Or a jackass six or whatever thing, you know, how have they not tried? Although, I mean, I think the answer is obvious. Metal is solid. It doesn't move like liquid. And if you tried to dive into a pool full of metal coins, you would die. But at the same time, we have to see if that's actually true.
19:27Jason Mantzoukas:I agree. And maybe the thing is, maybe it's a person couldn't do it, but a duck could. Ooh, a duck with a monocle. I think maybe the problem has been getting the monocle on the duck. And the robe. It's really a tailoring issue. I can speak about this without using too many specifics, but I got to swing by the set of Jackass five. So good. And wow. Wow. Can't wait. And I think the thing that was, that kind of blew my mind about it was when you're there, they're, they're shooting them at the pace in which you watch them. Right. Like I would say that I watched them do a bit and probably 15, 20 minutes.
20:13Jason Mantzoukas:And then it was over and it was like, okay, now we're moving to the next thing. They don't do it again. they don't get pickup shots they don't you know no the most that i saw them like tweak was just the we are here doing this yeah like just just the intro thing yeah just a succinct setup for it but uh yeah and the thing that blew my mind in visiting that set was i got there at lunch and like you know when you're on a when you're in a film you know you break for everyone breaks for And I didn't realize that like jackass breaks for lunch. And then I was like, why would you ever want to eat and then do any of these things?
20:53Like it doesn't feel like it's just imagining them lining up a catering to get like a chicken breast and some rice and all the traditional like onset meals. And then going back into having themselves like punched repeatedly in the stomach by like a robot.
21:09Jason Mantzoukas:That's all I could possibly think about. I was like, why are Preston, Wee Man, why are you guys eating? Don't eat. Just keep it like a liquid diet or something. Because a lot of the guys, the original guys, are older now. Yes. So is there a younger contingent of Jackasses? Well, yes, from Jackass 4. The same. Oh, that's right. There were some people. Yes, that's right. You got Poopsies. Poopsies. Poopsies.
21:38Jason Mantzoukas:Poopsies. my family um i did not realize this but poopy's got his hand eaten off by a shark during shark week the first ever injury on shark week happened promoting jackass four what and his hand was bitten off well it was severed at three tendons oh and uh and they had to like get him out of where they were shooting get him back to the states they brought him to a guy who uh was able to get it reattached it is reattached it's gnarly um and he says it's painful uh but i and there's footage of it you can watch the footage of it and so poopies uh like his like um shark week for shark week not even for the movie like they gave him the footage to put on his youtube like that was the mea culpa like yeah the shark week people were you can actually have the footage it's brutal and And then Steve-O talks about it as well.
22:34Jason Mantzoukas:And he was like, we all knew this was not a smart thing. He's like, because in our time with dealing with sharks and everything, he's like, sharks really don't fuck with you. And, you know, but these sharks were so hungry. He's like, I saw a leaf land like in the water and they all went nuts for the leaf. So then you drop poopies in there doing a literal jump the shark like Fonzie from Happy Days moment falls off. And then, and when you watch them race towards him, it is frightening. Oh, that's awful. And there's no, and there's no insurance. I was actually thinking that that's like the best, not the best gig, but like for Shark Week, it's like, oh, he didn't get paid.
23:15Jason Mantzoukas:Like he didn't get paid extra for losing his hand. Cause I'm sure he's signed everything away. Oh, I'm, oh, for sure. Oh, that's so upsetting. Yeah. It's really gnarly. And I just was like, it again, because my kids have gone so deep into it. We really found pockets that I didn't even know exist. Have they found or gotten to the, all of the TV shows? Yes, that's how we started. Oh, it is. Okay. Because I was like, I knew the movies would be great, but I was like, let's start on the TV show because it's harder to go backwards. It really is. It's a good ramp up. And so, you know, so that was the TV shows, which apparently, according to Jeff Tremaine and Johnny, they are in the middle of redoing because it was an interesting thing.
24:04Jason Mantzoukas:And just as somebody who worked at Viacom, I can identify with this, which is at one point when they were like, oh, yeah, we need you to QC these. You lose the rights to certain music. Now, Human Giant was a show that we knew about digital and DVD. So we really picked our music and hired musicians and we owned a lot of our music. But back in the day, Jackass and Real World, they would just play the top 40. They would play any song they wanted. Yeah. And then it's like things like the state had that, too. And you couldn't you can't release it because you don't have the rights to it. But back then, it's why shows like Moonlighting or 30 something or my so-called life spent so long not being able to stream is was because they had huge music rights problems.
24:52Jason Mantzoukas:um it's really wild yeah so it's like so i guess what happened was at one point they weren't really cue seeing it as closely as they should have so they're they have some issues with some of the music choices that are in there and like i mean i will say in watching it didn't really like you know but i do think that they're actually very careful and really selective about the music that they pick so i also feel like it's one of those things it's like well it wasn't picked by us you and it's not going to be as good. Oh, well, I mean, a box set of all of the Jackass stuff would be so fucking funny.
25:27Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, God. That would be an incredible, I would love that. And I also love that they always, one of the things I always appreciated was that they would put out a new movie and then the next year they would put out like 45 minutes worth of, like an extended cut of that movie with 45 extra minutes of stuff. Right, and it was very rarely, because we've watched all of those, The 2.5s or whatever, you know, it's very rarely the same bits, different openings, fully different bits. Like it's not even extensions. It's it really like I didn't understand that. I never really watched this because I already saw it.
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26:03Jason Mantzoukas:Like, I guess what I see a couple more ball hits. I was like, oh, no, no, it's a fully different film. Yeah, it's genuinely stuff that is like, oh, maybe they didn't get enough of this. But it's still very satisfying. Oh, yeah, I really I really enjoyed it. It's like watching the Lord of the Rings extended cuts. That's what a lot of people say. If I was to revisit a Jackass movie, like a Lord of the Rings movie, I would only watch the extended cuts. Well, you see, that's why you're a purist. I mean, that is the way that they're supposed to be watching. You know, Johnny is my Frodo, and Steve-O is my Pip, and Pontius is my Mary.
26:43Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, please, somebody draw that. I would love to see that. All of the, yes, all of the map, the map, the fellowship on to the jackass crew. And by the way, the island that they're on, it should definitely look like a dick and balls, like an old like an old map writing. I would love to see that. Oh, my gosh. It's called middle girth.
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28:10This is incredible!
28:11Jason Mantzoukas:FX's critically acclaimed The Bear, Season 5 on Hulu. Everything's either gonna be okay or not. And Season 3 of the HBO original series, House of the Dragon on HBO Max. You have power within your cross. Get the Disney Plus Hulu HBO Max Bundle today. All of these and more streaming soon. Plans starting at$19.99 a month. Terms apply. Visit DisneyPlusHuluMaxBundle.com for details. else now jason i know it's taken the world by storm and i'm slow to catch up on this stuff and i feel like you might have been ahead of the game and told me about it but nirvana the band the movie okay amazing so i did not tell you about it okay i suspect maybe seth or owen did because they are heavy into it okay so i haven't seen it but i've talked to them about it now are you aware of the fact that it like the trip is based on a tv series based on a web series that brought the tv series forward so i've watched it all so i watched the movie it was great uh and i was so blown away by it then i went back found the web series okay all 10 episodes of that and now i'm working my way slowly through the tv series just because i'm enjoying it so much i don't want to i don't want But by the way, but you don't feel like, oh, I wish I'd watched the TV series first, or I wish I'd gotten in it, done it in a different order.
29:31Jason Mantzoukas:I think it's fulfilling on both ways that you watch it. They do a great job. I mean, the premise is divinely simple. It's just like two guys want to play at this club. That's it. And that is from episode one of the web series to the film, the same quest. it is like the roadrunner and coyote. It's like coyote wants to get the roadrunner and any which way he gets there, it's like, well, we'll start back at, we'll start back at one. Like it just, you know, so that's really what makes the show so fulfilling. And I, and I think that, uh, the guys are great. And I'm realizing, and this is just, I'm not without any spoilers or anything because you shouldn't know anything about the movie.
30:17Jason Mantzoukas:I didn't know a thing about it besides it was very funny. The thing that I realized was, I believe the way they are getting away with stuff, because they're getting away with a lot of stuff, a lot of stuff. Um, it is to me on a, it's not a prank film. It has elements of a prank film. Um, but what I think they're doing is they're treating like a documentary because they both play themselves and they are both. And I think what they are able to legally say is, yes this is a documentary about us we would like to play this place yeah now whether or not they are and one of the guys is a musician so it does check out yeah like it's never out of that smart so they can get the rights to things i mean i'm talking about like music cues video clips it all falls in fair usage because because they're making a documentary yeah and i and and it's ingenious And once you start to see certain things, it's not a cheat at all, but it's really, you go, oh, because they dress the same pretty much all the time, very much like a cartoon.
31:28Jason Mantzoukas:So it's like, oh, they got that. Like they're mixing and matching to get the storylines all connected. But it feels like it's very run and gun in the sense that there is actually, I can talk about this, but there's a very big story that happened in Canada. And they were across town shooting something else. And they're like, oh, my gosh. Wow. Why don't we use that as a backdrop for a bigger part of our story? They ran over there. And when you look at the news footage from that day, you can see them in the background doing their thing. Oh, this is cool. So it's awesome. Oh, I'm excited. Yeah. So it's really like from a production standpoint, I literally have the theater going like, it's the funniest thing.
32:10Jason Mantzoukas:But also I have more questions than Mission Impossible. Like, how did they? How did they just? Yeah. Oh, because it also seems like it would be so simple to understand. Yes. But that is great. That makes me very curious. Because you get like, oh, Borat and Bruno, they're like, oh, he's going to a thing. But they're doing stuff that I'm like, what? How? I love it. And I read a great interview with them and they said something really cool, which was when the movie first started, I was looking at the credits. And because I like to support everybody in the arts, you know, not just about the people in front of you.
32:43Jason Mantzoukas:Sure. The below the line people are very important to you. I always say that. Yes. But there is a thing where, like, the VFX is really high up. And I was like, this movie needs VFX. And then I'm like, oh, it does. Wow. And why is it they're like, our VFX are there to make you, like, you don't even know that they're there. And that's part of it, too. It's so, it hides seams and cleans up stuff. And you can't, like, yeah, so you don't know what, I mean, yeah, you don't, there's so much stuff that I'm sure this happening. with little tweaks that you can't even tell. Ooh, that's cool. I think you'll love it.
33:19Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, I think you will absolutely love it. But yeah, highly recommend it. I will recommend, I'm, you know, I love any and every detective show that is on television. Of course. And so there's been two that have been recently on that I've loved. I powered through all of Young Sherlock, which is - Oh, I've been, it's on my list. Guy Ritchie, right? Guy Ritchie's young Sherlock. It's an absolute blast. It basically is like college age Sherlock. And he becomes best friends with Moriarty. And it's basically like they're on cases that are, you know, that affect them. You know, and it's it's in Sherlock's whole family is a part of it.
34:03It's not Ralph Fiennes. Joseph Fiennes. The brother is his father. And it's great. And he's a Fiennes. The actor who plays Sherlock is a Fiennes as well. What a Fiennes. What a Fiennes he is. Anyway, but it's got that kinetic Guy Ritchie style and vibe. Oh, I love this.
34:23Jason Mantzoukas:I love that Guy Ritchie's second coming is this kind of cool shows and doing this. I was obsessed when I was a kid with young Sherlock Holmes, the movie. I didn't see it. Oh, okay. When I was a kid, there was a movie called Young Sherlock Holmes. The game was afoot. And that was the big part of it. but it was a college age or, you know, high school age. And it was such a fun way to kind of do Sherlock. And it's a way to like, I don't know. It's like you can also give him, you can beat him down a little bit. Like he doesn't have to be Sherlock at full power. Well, that's what's fun about it is you are watching him become that, learn the lessons of Sherlock Holmes.
35:05He doesn't know everything. He's not. So he's kind of like stumbling his way through things, which is very fun. And in many ways, Moriarty is more attuned to certain things and is more perceptive or, you know, they're they're having their competition of minds and deductive reasoning and all that kind of stuff. It's great. So no Watson. No, no Watson. That makes sense. Because Watson's kind of coming in.
35:32Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, I think Watson's later. But I'm trying to think if there's anybody who's like a Watson stand-in. It seems like Moriarty is. Or they are having that relationship. Yes, it is more Moriarty. It is a two-hander for him and Moriarty, which is great. Oh, I love it. I also watched a show called Sherlock and Daughter. Oh, what? In which David Thewlis plays Sherlock. Wow. And this is like almost, I would say, a YA Sherlock story. because the main character is like his daughter, who is, I'm going to say, 17 or 18, or, you know, late teenage years age daughter, who comes from, we think it's his daughter.
36:12Jason Mantzoukas:There's some question mark. I'm looking at it right now. Very YA. It's a CW show. Yes. Yes. Okay, got it. But also a blast. And by the way, great cast. And David Thewlis is unreal in it. Yes. Do Grey Scott is in this? I love this. He plays the grown-up. Moriarty. It's great. And that was also very satisfying and very fun. But a very light, both of them are very kind of like light Sherlock's, you know, which I enjoy. I love that. Oh, you know what has been killing me? I've been laughing so hard. The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins. We talked about it before when it was just the pilot, but absolutely, let's talk about it now because more episodes are finally available.
36:56Jason Mantzoukas:And I like the pilot. I thought the pilot was very funny. But man, oh man, it exponentially gets funnier and funnier and funnier. It's like, it's almost like a super powered 30 rock in the sense that it's like, okay, that's our premise. And boom, and boom, and boom. And it's like, and they're just, they are firing by episode four. You're like, this is just wall to wall. We just don't have many joke machine shows anymore. Like our comedies are feeling a little soft and a little sweet and or just a little not funny lately. And so this show, like that kind of Robert Carlock, Tina Fey, sharp, joke-dense shows, I'm missing, you know, like the Girls 5 Evas and the 30 Rocks.
37:42And this is scratching that itch and then some.
37:45Jason Mantzoukas:And it's really what I love too is like, they, I also feel like, and I say this with the most love, Tracy's getting the rust off very quickly. Like in the beginning, I was like, oh, I don't know if this is like, oh, I want it to be kind of, and now I'm like, oh, he is in the pocket, firing on all cylinders. And I'm like, oh, this is really, really well done. And the cast just pops and great people popping up. Corbin Bernson in an episode. Craig Robinson and Heidi Gardner in there. It's got, it is, I think that show is dynamite. And it, my only like feeling is like a lot of these shows that I think are so great.
38:23I just wish it was on NBC.
38:25Jason Mantzoukas:Well, that's the thing. It's like, I don't know that people are in the habit of going to Peacock to find a show. I think it was, I think what they did was they did play it on NBC after the Superbowl. Yes. And then they played it again and it had like this crazy rating. It was almost like, it was like over. Cause our, our buddy Phil Jackson, who we do dinosaur with, he is one of the writers on it. I'm going to look at the thing because it's a crazy stat because I think what we're talking about is like, why don't they make these things? Do people not want these things? And the answer is they love these things.
38:55They just don't know how to find them. Right.
38:57Jason Mantzoukas:And it's like you have to get it on every possible thing. You just don't know because people want to watch it. I'm just seeing what the stat is kind of crazy. It's so hard because so many people watch things passively. and you know when you are having you know like when your show's on netflix or someplace that some service or something that everybody for the most part has yeah it gets those eyeballs you know it's like um um i was talking to sam richardson who was saying that detroiters has just been put on netflix and it's finding a whole new audience and people are acting like oh i saw your new show well this you know and he's like oh no that's a very old show but but thank you and that's and it's such a good thing but something on peacock so few people have it and so few people know to go there to find the new tracy morgan show i totally agree i mean we've been fighting this fight uh and i'll say it out loud here because if anyone works at sony or netflix we can't get black monday to stream anywhere and that's don cheetle regina hall yeah andrew annals me casey yeah wilson it's like there's so many funny people on it's like just get it on like why is it like trapped it's not it's not it's just like you can buy it but like put it on streamer let people watch these things it's crazy like it's just free it's a free show like what are you gonna pay the license it's not gonna be expensive here it is this is the stat the fall and rise of reggie dinkins the pilot ratings jumped more than a hundred percent reaching 13 million viewers since the premiere and that was like over a month ago but that's 13 million is huge giant for a great i love that and that's i love that and i hope it continues to thrive and create an appetite for more shows like this that are funny yeah you know not that are not you know and i love all the all the shows that all the comedies that are sweet and dramedies and the shows that are not funny like the bear but are nonetheless considered comedies it's a great show um but you don't need to have we don't have to live learn love and grow we could just make people laugh and We can just do bits and enjoy them.
41:01Yes. I mean, and that's Nirvana,
41:02Jason Mantzoukas:the band, the show, you know, or the movie. Yeah. It's like, or Jackass. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like a Jackass is a show that I feel like, boy, is that such a funny show? Um, so, so good. Uh, well, Jason, let's get to work. We'll fix that. And by the next episode, we should be on track. I feel like we'll get a bunch more. I think we'll have figured out everything. All right. Talk to you soon. All right. Thank you, Jason, for just chatting with me. but now it is finally time to announce our next movie. Next week, we will be going from Nisa loves cool Jason to ladies love cool James. That's right.
41:33Jason Mantzoukas:We are watching 2005's Mindhunter, starring Val Kilmer, Christian Slater, and of course, LL Cool J. Oh boy, I love this movie. IMDb describes it as this. A group of FBI trainees are taken to a remote island for a simulation, but once they are there, they realize that they are being hunted by a serial killer. Ooh. Rotten Tomatoes gives this film a 25 % score on the Tomatometer, and Richard Roper from Hebert and Roper says, Mindhunters is supposed to open in the spring of 2003, but they kept on pushing back the release date. They should have kept pushing. Ooh, Richard Roper with a slam. I like Richard.
42:09Jason Mantzoukas:Let's take a listen to the trailer. They are the FBI's newest profilers. You're all smart or you wouldn't be here. I just want you to be smarter. Training to get into the minds of the most elusive serial killers. Now, someone trained to think like a killer There's just one problem. is about to become one. There's no one here but us.
42:35Jason Mantzoukas:You can stream Mindhunters on Starz and Philo and you can rent it at all the usual places that you rent movies. Okay, so that is it for Last Looks. If you listen to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us. Please also make sure you are following us and have automatic downloads turned on. Have automatic downloads turned on. It helps the show and we appreciate it. Visit us on social media at HDTGM. And a big thank you to our producers, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, our intern, Quinn Jennings. And of course, we will forever be thankful to the one and only Averill Halley.
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Jason and Paul chat about TV, movies, and ask who the Jackass cast members would be if they were in the Fellowship of the Ring. But first, Paul responds to all your corrections & omissions on The Forbidden Dance. And stay tuned to the end of the episode to find out next week's new movie!
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