In short
This episode is a “Last Looks” wrap-up for Vertical Limit, focused on corrections/opinions and extra context from listeners.
Key claims
K2’s litter and human waste are a real problem, and climbers/independent groups have to clean up despite altitude difficulty; a scene where a helicopter reveals Annie as “fastest woman to scale a mountain” via magazine pages is clunky exposition; breathing/coughing sounds in the film are especially gross; some viewers think the movie’s fun is being over-criticized, while others cite editing/projection issues (e.g., visible boom mics, a hovering body before impact).
Notable examples
Liz Wilcox’s Applebee’s challenge rant from Survivor; the “boom mic/hovering body” theater memory; the magazine cover exposition reveal.
Guests
Miss June Diane Raphael (filling in for Jason on Just Chat) and listener callers/voicemail contributors (e.g., Dakota, Dave, Doug, Iman) plus referenced Discord user FunFacts47.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMinions and Wi-Fi
0:00 to 0:27
A humorous exchange about unexpected guests using Wi-Fi.
“Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity?”
Introduction to Vertical Limit
1:47 to 2:54
Hosts introduce listeners to the discussion on Vertical Limit and engage with fan submissions.
“Hello, all you villains getting your cum muffins.”
Upcoming Show Highlights and News
2:54 to 4:25
Announcements about future episodes, live shows, and a charitable t-shirt sale.
“But to make sure we actually get the song, I suggest clicking on the Submit a Song button on our own website at hdtgm.com.”
Corrections and Omissions Introduction
4:25 to 4:50
Hosts begin discussing corrections and omissions from the previous episode.
“100 % of those proceeds will be donated to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation in Averill's memory.”
Context and Opinions on Vertical Limit
4:50 to 5:41
Hosts share audience feedback and opinions on various aspects of Vertical Limit.
“It is now time for corrections and omissions.”
Discussion on Film Elements
5:41 to 9:28
A dive into the film's elements like exposition and character actions.
“Thank you, John Steele, for that theme song.”
Listener Phone Calls
11:33 to 13:16
Listeners provide their thoughts on Vertical Limit, including notable cast members.
“Before we hear more of your thoughts on Vertical Limit, I must remind you to tune into our classic episodes.”
Vertical Limit Defense
14:01 to 17:00
Listeners defend and critique the film 'Vertical Limit', discussing its themes and characters.
“I feel like it was the pulse of the movie, the cough of doom coming in.”
Doug's Theater Experience
17:01 to 17:58
A listener shares a memorable experience watching 'Vertical Limit' with technical issues.
“I just wanted to regale you with my memories of scene Vertical Limit in theaters.”
Projection Mishaps and Film Quality
17:59 to 19:10
Discussion about film projection issues and how they can impact viewer experience.
“I didn't know it was possible in film because I know it's possible in like when they did widescreen TVs, like old episodes of Buffy.”
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Correction and Omission Winner
19:11 to 21:25
Listeners share corrections and humorous opinions, including a special prize announcement.
“Anywho, I don't know if you've listened to the unhinged fever dream that happened while you were away yet, but wow, did Jason have some nonsense opinions and contexts that you want to review ASAP.”
Correction and Omission Winner
21:29 to 22:20
Listeners share corrections and humorous opinions, including a special prize announcement.
“It is almost time for June to drop in for just chat.”
Correction and Omission Winner
23:14 to 23:26
Listeners share corrections and humorous opinions, including a special prize announcement.
“Carter's has your family covered for every summer first.”
Correction and Omission Winner
23:31 to 23:47
Listeners share corrections and humorous opinions, including a special prize announcement.
“One thing I've learned is that you buy a house, but you make it a home.”
Just Chat with June
23:53 to 28:03
Paul chats with June about her role in 'Elle' and personal anecdotes.
“Now, I would ask you what you've been into, what you've been watching.”
Cruise Confessions
28:03 to 29:43
The hosts share their thoughts and experiences from a Disney cruise.
“And then if I say, oh, Marcus did this, you're like, who's Marcus?”
The Magic of Disney
29:44 to 34:24
Exploration of the unique appeal and experience of Disney cruises.
“This was the first experience as an adult taking a cruise.”
Alaska Adventures
34:25 to 37:07
Discussion about the sights and adventures on their Alaskan cruise.
“He said, we were talking in the hot tub, but then he said, you know, I know this movie.”
Connecting with Crew
37:08 to 40:07
Reflection on the relationships formed with cruise staff during the trip.
“It was like, it is the Disney service level and the experience is actually Alaska.”
Childhood Whimsy
40:08 to 42:00
Conversations about the importance of embracing childhood joy and imagination.
“I will sit there and be like, and I had nothing critical to say.”
Farewell to June and Upcoming Movie Tease
42:00 to 42:42
The hosts reflect on their chat with June and tease the next movie episode.
“And I will say, I think for a lot of you Team Fred members, that idea of integrating the child within you like Drop Dead Fred is about is so important to touch down with.”
Introduction to Thrashing and Its Plot
42:42 to 43:34
The hosts introduce the next movie, 'Thrashing', and outline its plot.
“Iman tried to get it back, but now we are here with me.”
Thrashing Trailer Discussion
43:34 to 44:11
The hosts discuss the trailer for 'Thrashing' and what to expect.
“Thrashin' is available to both stream for free or rent on Prime Video.”
Thrashing Trailer Discussion
44:45 to 45:08
The hosts discuss the trailer for 'Thrashing' and what to expect.
“Over 4 million businesses have skipped the line with Stamps.com.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Honey, did you invite the Minions over? Well, you know how we talked about getting Wi-Fi from Xfinity? Yeah. I ordered it this morning. It was online in minutes. Then, they showed up. So they just came over to use the Wi-Fi? For what?
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1:34Why Applebee's is so good, but so bad. And June and I just got off our first cruise and we have thoughts. All this and more on a brand new episode of How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. Play the goddamn theme song. May I have your attention, please? How Did This Get Made? Last Looks. The summer of the stream.
2:03Hello, all you villains getting your cum muffins. It's me, your mountain guy, Paul Scheer, here to lead you on a treacherous ascent up. How did this get made? Last Lux Mountain. Today, you, the listener, get to voice your issues on Vertical Limit, a movie that Discord user FunFacts47, I like FunFacts47, thinks should have been called Funky Cold Edema. I couldn't even get through it. Thank you, FunFacts47 for that alt title. It made me laugh. And a big shout out to the Action Jackson 5 for that awesome Extreme Summer theme song. That's right. We are in the middle of Extreme Summer all summer long.
2:45That's why we call it Extreme Summer. Anyway, remember, if you have an alt movie tagline or title, submit it to us on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm. And if you have a theme song, I know on the previous Last Looks, Jason told you to send your songs to the Doughboys podcast at birdfuck.com. But to make sure we actually get the song, I suggest clicking on the Submit a Song button on our own website at hdtgm.com. Now, coming up on today's show, you'll be hearing all of our corrections and omissions on Vertical Limit. I'll even share a deleted scene from that episode with Lacey Mosley. And then the one and only Miss June Diane Raphael will be filling in for Jason today on Just Chat as we talk about a cruise.
3:30Yeah, we went on a cruise. We just got back. We are recording this fresh off the boat, which is a plug also for a show that I was on on ABC. No big deal. Remember, as always, at the end of the show, I will reveal the movie that we will be covering on next week's episode. people if you haven't watched yet check out Elle it's the Legally Blonde prequel series airing right now on Amazon Prime June is hilarious as Elle Woods's mom Eva Woods uh the cast is great the show is so good James Van Der Beek uh is awesome in it I just I love the show it's really really fun and if you didn't get a chance check out June in the New York Times she had a full two-page article in the New York Times.
4:14It was awesome. Los Angeles, we are going to be back at Largo on July 31st and August 1st. Go to hdtgm.com for tickets to see what movies we'll be covering. We are also selling a t-shirt in honor of our movie-picking producer, Averill Halley. 100 % of those proceeds will be donated to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation in Averill's memory. Just click on the merch link on hdtgm.com to find out more. That's all for the plugs that we got today. So let's get into it. Last week, we talked at length about Vertical Limit. Well, we had questions and we might have even missed a few things. Here is your chance to set us straight.
4:52Fact check us, if you will. It is now time for corrections and omissions. As I said earlier, an opinion or context. We're asking to correct it. The assumption should be that we're always right. Instead of correction and omission, it should be opinion and context. I love it. Context and opinions. And you're right. You know what? I think Jason really came in here and set the record straight. This is context and opinions. You know, no more corrections. We weren't wrong. We're only right. All right. Thank you, John Steele, for that theme song. And Jason really put his thumb down on this. I love it so much.
5:50Let's go to the Discord. Android Lauren Hotel writes, with all the talk of climbers in the film having huge barbecues, I thought I'd point out that the amount of litter on K2 is a real problem. A lot of equipment and grossly human waste pollutes the landscape. Other climbers and independent foundations have to clean up the mountainside, but it is difficult in the altitude. Wow. Okay. Well, yeah. I mean, should we be putting in pay toilets on K2? I mean, I feel like that's what we're saying. Pay toilets and get a garbage truck up. They're not one of the big ones. One of the small ones, like the small buses, but the small garbage trucks.
6:26You ever see one of those small garbage trucks? I had a friend who lived on a pretty private block, and he got a small garbage truck. They make them. Go up there. Clean up that shit. By the way, I also heard that most people are never bringing anything up to K2 because it's like it's you're not making food up there. Anyway, Android Lauren Hotel writes, also, it's funny. Paul mentioned Applebee's on Survivor. Reminded me of Survivor player Liz Wilcox having a crash out because she lost the challenge and really wanted a burger. And she felt entitled to the prize as it was a tradition every Wednesday to have a burger with her daughter.
7:00Don't blame her. She was really hungry for Applebee's. Oh, believe me, I am very familiar with this clip because it is a classic. And if you don't know what we're talking about, take a listen. I'm pissed! Y 'all say you ain't gone without eating? I see you eat every day? I don't even want to be around y 'all I'm over it now Thank y 'all for letting me have that I feel better I just exploded I'm sorry I love Liz She did deserve it It was her tradition People go nuts over Applebee's They go so nuts that I'm like Am I crazy for not eating more Applebee's? Like I don't crave it like these people And then I sometimes have it I'm like it's not bad But I don't know.
7:50I guess if I'm starved, Applebee's would be pretty good. But again, like I said, you'd be shitting your brains out. It would be good, but terrible. I got poisoned recently. Yeah. I went to a restaurant. I didn't get, look, I'm lactose intolerant. I know that. And I poisoned myself. Honestly, I poisoned myself. I had too much creamy stuff. And I had what could only be described as a full level of, I mean, I've never felt this way. Chills, headache, muscle aches. I read online that in severe cases of lactose intolerance, I could get this. I lived, I got to talk to Jason about this with the egg allergy.
8:31I was in such insane pain and then all of a sudden all went away, just done. Look, sometimes you bring a creamy pasta, a creamy dessert to me. And I shouldn't have done it. I don't even like that stuff, but I was like pushed into ordering the stuff I didn't even want because then I feel bad. I'm like letting down the waiter. I shouldn't feel bad about that. I should have just gotten what I wanted. Anyway, I poisoned myself. Dr. Guts, 1003 writes, one scene with clunky exposition that made me laugh was when the helicopter flew over base camp and caused a magazine's pages to blow over and reveal a cover showing that Annie was the fastest woman to scale a mountain.
9:10was there no easier or more natural way to share that info with the audience? Yeah, I mean, truly, that's the easiest thing you could have communicated. You didn't need to be on a magazine. And also, like, it seems like that's actually the hardest way to communicate that information. All right, it is time for a quick break. But when we come back, we'll head to the phone lines for more corrections and omissions. Or, as Jason likes to say, more context and opinions. We'll be right back. Today's podcast is brought to you by our friends over at Squarespace. You know, I love Squarespace because with Squarespace, everything that you need to succeed online is in one spot.
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11:01Sugar bee apples elevate everything from charcuterie boards and salads to baked treats and everyday snacking. Ready for some inspiration? Download our free recipe book and discover delicious ways to enjoy Sugar Bee apples at hellosugarbee.com. Sugar Bee apples, from bee to you. Carter's has your family covered for every summer first. First steps, first swim lesson, or first sleepover. Our clothes help kids and parents shine, thanks to comfy design and easy dressing details. Visit carters.com to shop the latest styles or find a Carter's store near you. Welcome back. Before we hear more of your thoughts on Vertical Limit, I must remind you to tune into our classic episodes.
11:38Every Tuesday, we release a classic episode. Last week was the roll-abating masterpiece, Airborne, with all-star guests Scott Aukerman, Kumail Nanjiani, and Daniel Schneider. And next week, we will be revisiting the John Travolta and Jamie Lee Curtis movie, Perfect, with guest Seth Morris. So keep checking out all of our replays of classic episodes every Tuesday. Now, let's go to the phones. Dakota from Toledo, what do you got? Hi, Paul. A longtime listener of your podcast. I'm a big fan. I love you guys. And your episodes are always such a blast to listen to, especially this week with Vertical Limit.
12:18It was such a blast, pun intended. But anyway, I noticed that in the podcast, you guys called out a young Ben Mendelsohn. And I was a little surprised you didn't call out the other Star Wars alum who is in this movie. And that is Tamara Morrison, a.k.a. Boba and Jango Fett. He played the helicopter pilot and the guy who throws the shoe bomb. And I thought he did a great job in this film. Also, often on the podcast, you guys talk about your disgust for wet mouth noises. and I was surprised that you guys didn't also talk about just how disgusting all of the coughing and wheezing and deep breathing sounds in this movie were.
13:02By the end, I was so happy that the sister got saved, more so because I didn't want to hear her cough anymore. It was making me truly uncomfortable, and so I was a little surprised you guys didn't talk about it. But anyway, love you guys. Bye. Okay. Here's the thing. I got to tell you, Dakota, I knew, and I had it written down and I'm like, you know what? All this is going to do is just be a mention and then we're going to get off into Star Wars. And then I'm just going to further align myself as like someone who's going to get off on a tangent on Star Wars. I didn't want to do that. Didn't want to do that at all.
13:37Can I tell you one thing though? I once was in a hot tub with Tamara Morrison. Boom. Won't talk about the rest of that story now, but he was a lovely man, which makes it sound even more suspect. There was nothing that happened in that hot tub. I just happened to be in a hot tub with him.
13:56Anyway, you're right. The breathing sounds were gross, but they didn't bother me. I feel like it was the pulse of the movie, the cough of doom coming in. All right. Thank you, Dakota. You are the best. Who do we got? Oh, we got a guy named Dave. Dave, what do you got? Hey, guys, this is Dave. I am a vertical limit apologist. That movie is super fun. And I was actually really surprised that you guys were down on it so hard. It is unbelievable in the best way. I'm not going to get on you for not understanding why Scott Glenn shaved his beard. I mean, obviously, he was purifying himself and presenting himself, knew he was going to die and wanted to meet his wife again, looking like his old self.
14:44I'll let that one slide. But I don't understand why you guys kept harping on Bill Paxton wanting to make a commercial. It wasn't about the commercial. It was about his ego. I mean, come on. In this day and age, you don't understand a billionaire needing to be right and to control everything around him and to have his way all the time? I got to be honest. I was a little bit surprised, but still love you. Okay. First of all, Dave, you're telling me that Scott Glenn is going to go back in the same body to heaven? Is that the way it works in Scott Glenn's mind? He's not going to go as the perfect version of himself.
15:23So if you die with a goatee, you got to forever have a goatee. Come on, man. What kind of religion is that? Show me the religion that says if you die with a mustache, you got to keep that mustache for eternity. I don't think it exists. I think you die and you get into the version of your, like a version of yourself, right? Like that you like, maybe the best version of you. I don't know. I don't think, I don't know, you're telling me that like, uh, if I have a backache and I die and I go to heaven with that backache. Now, second of all, I like this movie. It's super dumb. It's the dumbest movie of all time.
15:55And that's what we're doing. That's what the whole show is. We're ragging on the movie. We're ragging on it too much. Really? That's the show. You think that this movie doesn't deserve ragging on? Because it is dumb as fuck. It's great. But you can't be like, well, come on, guys. It's two. It's dumb. It's dumber than dumb. And that's why it's on the show. And let me tell you something. It wasn't, yes, ego. Yeah, we get it. But it was also that commercial. Like, he was racing up the mountain. Not because he never said, I want to be the fastest up the mountain. He was like, I just want to get up.
16:33there to time it with the commercial. His goal wasn't to beat her record. His goal was to go with her so he could move quick to make the commercial. Like his ego, that's where the issue is, right? Like if his ego was, I need to climb this mountain, the commercial wasn't a dumb add-on. Like make it like, I want to be the world's fastest climber. Then, yeah, we're agreed. You're giving this movie too much. I love you. You're the best, but too much. Doug from Prince Edward Island. Hey Paul, this is Doug. I just wanted to regale you with my memories of scene Vertical Limit in theaters. It was on a Toonie Tuesday where you could see movies for two bucks and this was about the right price.
17:16I think the projectionist did something wrong because in about half of the movie you could see boom mics in almost every scene. You could see the memory. The main scene that I think of the most is someone's body was supposed to hit the snow like they had fallen, except you could see the body hovering off screen for a few seconds before it dropped and hit the snow. Anyways, that always stuck with me quite a bit. All these years, I just thought the movie was poorly edited and I assumed it was a really cheap movie, but I'm looking online and apparently no one else had this experience except me and my friends.
17:47So I think it must've been the projectionist. But when I think of vertical limit, I think of boom mics and just bad editing. Thanks for doing what you do. Take care, bye. Doug, I love that you brought this up. I didn't know it was possible in film because I know it's possible in like when they did widescreen TVs, like old episodes of Buffy. You can see, you know, extras and camera equipment, a whole bunch of stuff. That is really fascinating. I didn't realize you could do it for movies. I went on this deep dive because Scott told me that there's like really cool pictures online of like filmmaking.
18:22And I guess you're right. There's a mat that has to go over the film. And that's also the way that you project it. I think that a lot of movies work outside of that. Like the mat isn't as crucial as maybe a cheaper movie like this. And you're right. Uh, you probably got to see just some weird version of that, which is odd because it seems like it's pretty simple to do unless he had a different mat on it. That might've been the case as well. I don't know. Uh, but, uh, great. I'm glad. I'm sorry that you had that experience, but also great that you had that experience. Uh, look around for a lot of the old school TV shows that suffered from this in widescreen.
19:02And finally, Iman, what do you got? Hi, Paul. Long time listener, first time caller on corrections and omissions, but I guess we're calling it opinion or context now. Hate it. Anywho, I don't know if you've listened to the unhinged fever dream that happened while you were away yet, but wow, did Jason have some nonsense opinions and contexts that you want to review ASAP. he did have one good one though speakpipe HDTGM is an absolutely ridiculous thing for a grown adult to say and that instead we should just use fuckingcallpaul.com so I set that up and now you can so hopefully this will let you conserve your energy for other things like never giving Jason control of the podcast love you, love the show, don't ever go away again finally, thank you Iman for getting my back in so many ways.
19:57Fucking call paul.com. Now that is what we need. Producer Scott, take listen, take note, fucking call paul.com. Uh, that will now forward to our speak pipe page. Um, well, Iman, we have to give you something special and honestly, I'm not going to even consider anyone else for this week's correction and omission winner. I am going to give it to you because you spent$10 of your own money to give us, you know, the privileges of using fucking call paul.com. And your grand prize is you've won a free subscription to K2 barbecue boxes, the only mail order barbecue meat that comes with poop bags to keep it clean.
20:38You know, when the rumblies come out your tumblies, you can kind of just boom. You know what we should do? And this is maybe the idea. We should have poop bags attached to drones. And then when you're climbing K2, you shit in the bag, you hit the drone, the drone goes up and it brings it down to like a port-a-potty location. I would love some more, uh, shit level technology, kind of like what they did on Pluribus, uh, when the drones were coming by to take out her trash. Uh, I think it could be done. We should do it. That's the way we have to clean K2. Get those shit drones running. All right.
21:11And for the rest of you who didn't win that amazing prize, you can try your luck next episode by submitting your corrections and omissions on our discord or by leaving us a voicemail at speakpipe.com slash HDTGM. Or if that's too hard to remember, you can now also go to fuckingcallpaul.com. Fuckingcallpaul.com. All right. It is almost time for June to drop in for just chat. We literally just got off a boat from Alaska and I'm making her sit down with me right now. But before we talk about the boat that we took to Alaska, where we might have passed, As a matter of fact, I believe we did. We probably passed our good friend Doug, Prince Edward Island there.
21:51We could have joined him for Looney Tuesdays. Take a listen to this deleted scene from our Vertical Limit episode where we read a bonus second opinion review. and I'll just read you this one because we've never seen this ever before in an Amazon review it's a five star review by Amazon customers with no name it says yes vertical limit was up to my expectations please stop emailing me now I appreciate you sending it to me but please stop emailing me thank you five stars like what? because I think when you buy stuff on Amazon it just says will you rate your will you rate your transaction and this person is so furious.
22:30Like, yes, yes, it's fine. You did it. It's up to my expectations. Yeah, and Bezos was real thirsty in 2000, so I know they were sending hell. Send a review. Leave a review. Comment, like, and subscribe. It's me, Q-Ball Bezos. Some flavors can only be crafted by nature. One sunny day, a honeybee discovered a mysterious apple blossom and carried its pollen to a honeycrisp tree. Months later, something extraordinary was born. The sugar bee apple with notes of honey, caramel, and molasses balanced by bright sweetness and an extra crisp crunch. Sugar Bee Apples elevate everything from charcuterie boards and salads to baked treats and everyday snacking.
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23:40Angie, the one you trust to find the ones you trust. Find a pro for your project at Angie.com. All right, everybody. Welcome back. Without any further ado, it is now time to chat with my lovely and talented wife, Miss June Diane Rayfield, John Astonish, play us in. Jason and Paul, just chat. June and Paul, just chat. Paul, John Shear, just chat. How did this get made? Last look, just chat. So excited to have you here, June. Thank you for joining Just Chat. Happy to be here, Paul. Now, I would ask you what you've been into, what you've been watching. We've all been watching Elle, which you are fantastic in, and the show is so, so good.
24:21I love it so much. Thank you. I love it too. It's been amazing to see all the attention around it. And if you've not checked it out yet, June plays Eva Woods, the mother of Elle Woods from Legally Blonde. But this is a prequel, takes place before Legally Blonde. And it's been really fun to see like that world, which is like the 90s, which is the first. I guess I feel old now because I feel like, oh, I'm looking back at my high school experience. which is a little odd. Well, I was the age that Elle is in the TV show. Oh, man. In 1995. See, this is... So that was very strange. I remember getting my permit or something.
25:08I remember driving alone and finding out that Kurt Cobain had died. And that's one of the jokes in the first or second episode about this is the second worst thing that happened to Nirvana. and I was like, oh, wow. Like it, it just, it feels so current, but also I guess it's very far away. I was in the basement of Eileen Tehan's house. Oh. You know, so many basements. I was in so many basements that were redone, but to have a redone basement, I feel like in high school was the, or middle school, high school was like the best thing. I mean, I didn't have one, but I, certain people I knew did. And I was like, wow, that's living.
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25:51I mean, I finally moved into a basement because when my mom got remarried, I was in a like they have a thing called like a mother daughter house where like there's a separate entrance where I guess the mother lives or maybe the daughter lives there. I don't know where the mother or daughter lives, but I lived in the bottom part. I lived in the keep them away from the front door part of the house. uh but i have my own by the way i feel badly because after i said that you know i'm realizing that we are redoing our yeah but it's not the same but well it could be but and uh we were asked by our son if it could be he said a teen hangout spot he said a chill zone and i said nope well here's the thing i think i may have i may have introduced that concept to him because he's like oh why are we redoing the basement i was like because you know it's gonna be great for guests but then also it could be like just a total chill place for you and your friends to hang out it can't it's not a chill zone babe it's not a chill zone oh my god furniture in it like i don't want any of them chilling they have so many spaces this whole house is a chill zone i mean we would find a lot of popsicle sticks in that space they are children produce so much trash and seem to have no idea what to do with it besides shove it into couch cushions like as if no one will ever find it here i i look at my car floor it's full of gum i'm like guys there's a there's trash bags moments i'll never forget this it was a while ago but i think it was sam was playing soccer and he like they stopped them for like they had a snack at his little soccer class and then he came over to me and I was sitting in a little chair and he had, you know, like a, um, a little muffins wrapper or something or some kind of wrapper.
27:45And he just threw it at me. I, I blame. That's where that, like, you are trash. You are. You are the trash person. You are garbage. Well, and then. You do with this what you will because it's your kind. like needs to be with like take this garbage well it was so shocking i i've seen so many things that boggle my mind i mean you know i'll tell my son hey can you you know scrape off that dish my son by the way sure our son i say can you scrape off that dish say to me like oh yeah my friend did this or one one of my friends i'm like who well i'm always like why does it make a difference You don't need to know.
28:30It's not a part of the story. Because it's crazy. And then if I say, oh, Marcus did this, you're like, who's Marcus? I don't know Marcus. So then I go, a friend. And then you're like. The normal thing to do is, you know, I don't think you know this person, but I'm actually kind of friendly with him. His name is Marcus. I know him because he goes to the same. Why? Because he goes to the same tennis clinic that I do. Oh, that's so much. It actually doesn't take that long. It's so much unnecessary. This guy, Marcus, from my tennis clinic. Anyway, he was telling me, great. No, you and I have a friend that will do things like, oh, you know, Marcus, he's the cousin of my aunt.
29:07Well, because he doesn't, but that's overcorrect. You know so many people and you do that all the time. That person who you're referring to absolutely overcorrects and we don't need to know any of that information. You're right. But I'm your wife. Okay.
29:27by the way my wife who we have just spent a very special amount of time together because we were just on a cruise it was me you our sons in a little stateroom on a disney cruise ship what with the terrace i mean i gotta tell you i've never really been like oh i need to take a cruise. This was the first experience as an adult taking a cruise. I got to tell you, it was the best. Well, first of all, I know this is Jason Manzoukas' worst nightmare, but I think we have to make a distinction, actually, because I don't know. And Jessica Sinclair actually got my mind right when I talked a little bit about this in the deep dive, but I don't know if we're cruise people, but I think we love a Disney cruise.
30:16I agree, because here's the thing. That's an important distinction. I think that going on this cruise, or I should say going on this Disney cruise, made me go, oh, I can see all the ways that this can go horribly wrong. But they have everything kind of planned out so it doesn't go that way. And I'm going to tell you the one big thing is it's good for it's multigenerational. You see old people, you see young people, you see babies. I mean, there was a baby crawling, like, gladiatorial event on the last day that was one of the funniest and best things I've ever seen. Jack Jack's Diaper Dash. Jack Jack's Diaper Dash.
30:52I'm talking this boat had three levels of people hanging over guardrails watching these babies race. And it was the closest I'll ever get to a gladiatorial event. People are like, yeah! Babies were being held up overheads. It was joyful. It was crazily fun. But I think that multi-generational energy makes the cruise a lot better because it's not just people like looking to get wasted or just like party their face off. It's a different type of fun party vibe. Well, it's, you know, I was telling Jess, I saw this TikTok. I guess TikTok got wind of the fact that I was on a cruise. Wait, whoa. How did that happen?
31:40I don't know. But I saw this TikTok from this guy, very, very normal, normal, if anything, like kind of like tough looking guys in his car filming this on the side of the road. And he just goes, I just want to say something about you people who judge Disney adults. Now, I'm one of those people who judge Disney adults for a long time. Obviously married into Disney. I know you don't. You have an interesting relationship with being a Disney adult. And I love Disney. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm not calling you a Disney adult. You're an adult who loves Disney. And I understand that distinction.
32:09Certain parts of it. Certain parts of it. Okay. Like I'm not getting tattoos of like the mice from Cinderella. No, but no. But you know a lot about it. You have an appreciation for it. You saw me at Trivia Night. You saw me at Trivia Night. Get a five. I was like, oh, I can get this. We were with like graduate level, doctoral level Disney adults. You were way out of your week. I went to multiple Disney trivia events on that boat and got my ass. You looked a fool. Looked a fool. You looked a fool. You showed your entire ass. But the TV one, I was good at. The general TV knowledge, I was good at.
32:53Well, but anyway, this, and I know you're in a different, you're not your typical Disney adult. You're someone who really appreciates and loves a lot of things about Disney. Okay. So that's where you fall. For me, had I not, I guess maybe if I had kids, but I just, I would never have spent any time at Disney. I'm not that, I wouldn't have ever stepped into this part of our culture. So I have approached it with a healthy amount of criticism and judgment, and I have been changed. I really appreciate. Well, and I, yeah. And I know that's universal. I know that's wicked. That's different. But I will just say, this guy in TicTic really articulated what I think I couldn't quite understand about the experience, which is he said, you know, I have to say to all you people who judge Disney adults, like, you think we're weird because we like Disney.
33:51We like these characters. We like these stories. We like thinking about imagination and magic and how magic enters our life. And we like whimsy. We think you're weird for denying your childhood self. We think you're weird for seeing your childhood self as so separate from who you currently are. we think that's weird we think that's troubling and i was like oh wow that is what was so special about being a part of the experience was you know we had two kids nine and twelve who who approached it you know they're they they're boys they weren't running you know they weren't like they're not wild about disney characters and stuff i didn't know how they were going to experience it by the end they were running to get pictures with pluto oh oh my gosh it's so much so that a kid cut our son and it felt like the he's like daddy cut me and you didn't say anything and i was like you know what because these disney people have it under control they are looking out for these rogue kids that are coming and they're not going to let people cut but you know uh yeah we were on But my point is, I saw them and even Sam, you know, we were in the hot tub watching Raya and the Last Dragon.
35:16He said, we were talking in the hot tub, but then he said, you know, I know this movie. I forgot about this. I forgot about it. Yeah. I forgot about it. I love this movie. Every scene that came on, I love. And then finally, I was getting out with Gus. And he said, I said, do you? He was putting his towel on, but he still had his eye on that movie. I said, do you want to stay? and he was like, oh, I don't know. I go, let me wrap you up like a little burrito and you stay on this little pool chair and watch the movie and he did. And he loved it. And he loved it. And he could come down and you feel safe about it.
35:49Of course, but that to me is the magic. Now we could talk about the service. We could talk about the people who work there, many of whom I genuinely am actively grieving and missing. I know, it was really sad. I'm missing them. We literally just got off the boat and I am sad to have left our Colin, our team, Andreas. I will say also the thing that I thought is really interesting about it is these like port adventures that they give you where you dock where we're going to Alaska, which was honestly one of the best experiences. That is something to really see by a boat. Let's be for real. I mean, we're seeing whales.
36:31I don't know about cruises other places, but that is something that you actually really should see. Alaska by boat. Yes. But those, I think what they did so well, too, is, yeah, you got the raya on the big funnel vision. You got the unlimited ice cream, all that sort of fun stuff. Did I eat ice cream every single day there? Yeah, I did. And guess what? I weighed myself today. I didn't gain any weight. So I don't know what happened. Well, I definitely did. But I'm okay with that. But I think the way that they mix it up that's really cool is that it's not just Disney. I was trying to explain this to a friend yesterday.
37:09It was like, it is the Disney service level and the experience is actually Alaska. Like, that's the theme park here. It's like you get off the boat and we're flying on like water planes, going over glaciers, and we're in boats watching. Like we have five whales are around our boat and we're seeing icebergs and it, it was lumberjack show. Big shout out to the lumberjack show. I've been told by many people, when you go to catch, you can see the lumberjack show. You may not want to see the lumberjack show, but trust me, it's good answer. It was very good. Uh, but that was part of the fun of it is that you, they brought like that Disney experience or whatever to these like port adventures.
37:52So that became the spectacle. And that was kind of the fun. And you have all these places like we watched the World Cup game in that like British pub. There's no Disney framing there. So I think it kind of gives you a lot of everything. So you don't get like, I guess you don't be like, oh, my gosh, I'm going to be trapped in this thing for seven days. I can't take it. No, it's like you're just in an awesome experience. And the the place you're visiting is really like that. That's the standout. And then, yeah, you're going to watch Mickey walk around in like a sailor's costume, which or I should say captain's costume, which is also great and and you get to go and watch movies on the big screen they get to watch like we always see toy story 5 it was so much fun but i think that they did a great job of like giving you every experience that you want there are people on there that are just going to be full-on disneyed out and meeting tiana at the royal palace and doing all that they're going people that just doing bingo which we did how many times okay i mean almost every day every day You know, there is a crazy feeling.
38:53I was like, oh, I'm playing bingo at 11 a.m. every day. But that was okay. That was fun. It was fun. We never won. It just felt like you were everyone cared about you in a way. And I know it sounds funny to say, but, you know, you spend time in hotels, you travel a lot. We both do. And I never connect with the staff of now because there's not enough time you're in and you're out or you're there once. And it's like all of a sudden by the end of this trip, like we have relationships with the guy running bingo, with the person serving our table, with the person cleaning our room there. It was something really special about it.
39:30And I think that's what makes it more bittersweet to leave. And also sad to know that as we dock three hours later, a whole new crew, a whole new crew of passengers are coming on and they're taking off. And that felt hurtful. I know. I really feel it. It felt hurtful and like we were being betrayed. It's honestly like I don't even really like to think about it. But, you know, I also I do think at a time when everybody is like very cynical about things and the state of the world and feeling like people are so over it and it was a snarky thing to say. It's very nice to have an experience that is just positive and joyful.
40:10Positive and fun. It was just fun. And you'll me. I'm the most critical. I will sit there and be like, and I had nothing critical to say. Like, I was like, seriously, like, what's the worst thing? Well, the only thing I could say is there were a few times the sodas weren't. That's exactly. The dining room, the sodas weren't. Fully carbonated. No, not fully carbonated. It was like there wasn't enough syrup in there. Something was wrong with the sodas. Look, like I said, my biggest complaint was one night when I went up to go get some water. uh, there, the ice machine wasn't working one, like for maybe about an hour and a half.
40:49Like, and like, this is not even, this is me just being like, I, there was nothing that, nothing rubbed me the wrong way. It was great. I wish we were back there. Um, and I will say that, uh, the one thing that I'm into and maybe you are too, and I know I made you watch it too much is that every day on the cruise ship, there was a TV show. It was a good morning, Disney wonder, which is the boat that we were on where the uh like crewmen of the ship would host a morning show and i i i ate it up every morning i loved my cruise director and assistant cruise director every morning i didn't realize that what is the sound a ship makes when when it's leaving yeah i didn't realize till a few days in that the sound was um
41:38and it came to me and I was like oh my god that's so special I also loved I mean we haven't even spoken about the farewell show but the the fact that they and I'm gonna take this to the kids actually like don't say goodbye they don't ever say goodbye they say until we meet again I love And I love that. And I will say, I think for a lot of you Team Fred members, that idea of integrating the child within you like Drop Dead Fred is about is so important to touch down with. So I just I highly recommend it. I don't know about other cruises, but we like this one. I'll tell you that, June, in that spirit, until we meet again on Just Chat, it was a lovely chat with you.
42:26It was great to talk to you until we meet again. Everybody watch Elle on Amazon Prime and watch the wonder that we all know that June is. Disney wonder. June is a wonder. Elle is on Prime. We love it all. Always love getting to chat with June. We bring some normalcy back to Last Looks after Jason took control. Iman tried to get it back, but now we are here with me. And now that we've said goodbye to June, it is time to say hello to the title of our next movie. Next week, we'll be going from rope hangs to skate gangs. Yes, we'll be continuing our extreme summer lineup with the 1986 skateboard classic, Thrashing, starring Josh Brolin and Pamela Gidley.
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