Law Abiding Citizen LIVE! w/ Adam Pally

13 Mar 2026 · 1 h 26 min · 40 chapters

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In short

This episode of Law Abiding Citizen LIVE! (with Adam Pally) is a live, comedic breakdown of the 2009 Gerard Butler film Law Abiding Citizen. The hosts discuss the premise: a man (Butler) whose wife and daughter are murdered after a plea bargain, then wages a long revenge campaign against the legal system, claiming he’s “a law-abiding citizen” while committing escalating violence.

Guests

Jason Manzoukas (co-host; actor/comedian known for TV and podcasts) and Adam Pally (comedian/actor; known for Happy Endings and podcasts; also mentions an HBO comedy special). They also reference “Morgan” as a lawyer audience member during Q&A.

Key claims and critiques

They argue the movie’s villain is charismatic and the audience roots for Butler, but the writing is full of inconsistencies and implausibilities (timeline confusion, evidence logic, prison logistics, courtroom behavior, and execution logistics). They debate whether the supporting antagonists (Jamie Foxx’s side and other “baddies”) have a coherent vendetta or are underexplained.

Notable examples

The home invasion and rape/murder cold open; the “use the peephole” takeaway; the judge phone-shooting moment; the huge prison explosion; the tunnel/underground city; and the courtroom bail scene where Butler erupts at the judge.

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Chapters

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Exploring the Movie's Premise

2:55 to 4:50

Hosts discuss the film's plot, characters, and its success at the box office.

“If you've not seen it, IMDB describes it like this.”

Introducing Adam Pally

4:50 to 6:57

Adam Pally joins the hosts to share his thoughts on the film and Gerard Butler.

“Paul, you said you weren't sure who you were rooting for.”

The Cult of Gerard Butler

6:57 to 8:13

Discussion on the hosts' admiration for Gerard Butler and his impact on the show.

“Let's see if you're doing that in about 45 minutes.”

Analyzing Character Motivations

8:13 to 10:48

Hosts analyze the motivations of characters and the film’s moral dilemmas.

“So I think we are always predisposed to enjoy a Jerry Butler, but you're coming in.”

Time Frame and Plot Confusions

10:48 to 14:01

Hosts discuss the confusing timeline and plot points within the film.

“It is the equivalent of Alfie Allen killing John Wick's dog.”

Exploring Law Abiding Citizen

14:01 to 21:16

The hosts discuss the film's plot and character dynamics, comparing it to other films.

“I mean, this is the tricky thing though, because this is a movie where I feel like there's a lot of big dick energy between both stars, because Jamie Foxx is like, well, I'm not a bad guy.”

Exploring Law Abiding Citizen

22:21 to 22:49

The hosts discuss the film's plot and character dynamics, comparing it to other films.

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Exploring Law Abiding Citizen

22:55 to 24:18

The hosts discuss the film's plot and character dynamics, comparing it to other films.

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Legal Inconsistencies in the Film

24:28 to 28:00

The hosts critique the film's portrayal of legal processes and character actions.

“You know you're getting to the court scene because we're going to do a flyover shot of Ben Franklin.”

Execution Scene Reactions

28:00 to 29:19

Discussion on the absurdity and impact of an execution scene in the film.

“That one guy goes, I just came because he has no family.”
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Bad Writing Examples

29:20 to 30:23

Analyzing the poor writing in the film, especially during courtroom scenes.

“I was like, welcome to the legendary status on this podcast.”

Jamie Foxx's Character Motivation

30:24 to 31:36

Exploring Jamie Foxx's character's obsession with DVDs and implications for his family.

“want on your side they treat everyone treats the judge in two seconds it's like hey judge how's it going, may you take it up the ass?”

Character Connections and Plot Twists

31:37 to 33:08

Discussion on character relationships and expectations in the film's plot.

“It's like, oh, yep, my school recital on DVD just was delivered.”

Execution Setups in Cinema

33:09 to 34:16

Debating how executions are portrayed in films and their realism.

“He has nobody else working on his behalf.”

Audience Interaction with Morgan

34:17 to 35:25

Engaging with the audience and asking for their input on legal aspects.

“They literally, like, they ratchet him up like he's on an amusement park ride.”

Critique of Gerard Butler's Performance

35:26 to 40:54

Analyzing Gerard Butler's acting choices and character progression throughout the film.

“And all I want is for him to be skyrocketing forward like he is in Plain, or like he is in Kandahar, or like he is in Greenland, or like he is in any of the other...”

Critique of Gerard Butler's Performance

40:55 to 42:00

Analyzing Gerard Butler's acting choices and character progression throughout the film.

“And I also don't want to spend a fortune.”

Critique of Gerard Butler's Performance

43:15 to 43:25

Analyzing Gerard Butler's acting choices and character progression throughout the film.

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Exploding Prisons and Naked Scenes

44:29 to 46:01

Discussing the explosive incidents and character choices in 'Law Abiding Citizen'.

“It rocks the outside of the prison while he's walking away.”

The Tunnel System and Plot Holes

46:02 to 48:34

Exploring the logic behind the prison tunnel and its implications.

“He should never be jacked because he is a low-impact kinetic operations guy.”

Character Dynamics and Missed Opportunities

48:35 to 50:26

Analyzing character interactions and the narrative's focus in the film.

“which means in 2009, they have no cameras in this prison?”

Graphic Violence and Thematic Discrepancies

50:27 to 52:53

Debating the film's portrayal of violence and its thematic consistency.

“My favorite moment in the film was like, it's 6 a.m., you'll die.”

Audience Engagement and Legal Insights

52:54 to 56:01

Interacting with the audience and discussing legal implications in the film.

“I imagine at one point you must be like, I know you want this guy to feel everything, but you're like, I think I did it though, right?”

Discussing Jamie Foxx's Role

56:01 to 57:20

Explore the complexities and implications of Jamie Foxx's character choices.

“She said that she's 33, she's got a bunch of cats That feels like, yeah, maybe Would you have made a deal like this?”

Audience Questions and Insights

57:21 to 1:00:21

Audience members share their thoughts and interpretations about the film.

“There's been a lot of energy over here, which means good question or utter destruction.”

Insights from a Body Double

1:00:22 to 1:03:04

A guest shares their experience working as a body double in the film.

“So it's not in any recognizable way because I was Colm Meany's body double.”

Experiences from the Film Set

1:03:05 to 1:04:58

Another audience member shares their experience as a prison guard in the movie.

“I did nine days on this as a prison guard.”

Exploring Film Details and Humor

1:04:59 to 1:10:02

Discussion about the film's content, humor, and audience reactions.

“That's fucking too hot Do I come back down to you?”

Audience Question About the Film

1:10:02 to 1:10:40

A participant asks about a character's actions in the movie.

“Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.”

Discussion on Sequel Development

1:10:40 to 1:11:59

The hosts talk about the potential sequel to 'Law Abiding Citizen' and its relevance.

“I was thinking if the person that operated the robot gunman was at the premiere of this movie and walking the robot gunman down the...”

Speculating on Character Backstories

1:11:59 to 1:14:18

The hosts brainstorm ideas for prequels or character developments in the film.

“And he's like half burned up and he comes back Two-Face style.”

Audience Review Segment

1:14:18 to 1:16:31

A review of 'Law Abiding Citizen' is read, showcasing various opinions.

“Jerry blows up, cuts to Jamie Foxx in the auditorium with his daughter's recital.”

Highlighting Audience Feedback

1:16:31 to 1:22:11

Hosts read and discuss audience reviews and ratings, emphasizing their thoughts.

“84 % of the 5 ,725 reviews are five-star reviews.”

Exploring Inconsistencies in the Film

1:22:11 to 1:23:41

Discussion of various plot inconsistencies and realism in 'Law Abiding Citizen.'

“A couple of things that don't make sense in this movie.”

Imagining a Different Film Narrative

1:23:41 to 1:24:00

A humorous take on the film's plot as imagined by someone who hasn't seen it.

“Well, we asked one person who didn't see it to explain it.”

Movie Overview: Law Abiding Citizen

1:24:00 to 1:25:55

Discover the plot and themes of 'Law Abiding Citizen' as discussed by the hosts.

“Of course, I haven't seen it, but I will speak on it.”

Critique of the Film's Execution

1:25:55 to 1:27:05

The hosts share their opinions on the movie's execution and missed potential.

“By the way, I would love to watch that movie.”

Behind the Scenes and Script Changes

1:27:05 to 1:28:27

Insights into the script changes and the impact on the film's narrative.

“because they changed too much of the plotting of it.”

Discussion on Men's Health Podcast

1:28:27 to 1:30:05

Adam Pally discusses his podcast focusing on men's health and wellness.

“to become the new Clyde so now he's Batman?”

Adam Pally's HBO Special and Upcoming Projects

1:30:57 to 1:32:49

Adam shares details about his HBO special and various upcoming projects.

“Every time I call Pally, I have to hear Will Arnett.”
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Transcript

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1:26Jason Mantzoukas:We saw a law-abiding citizen, so you know what that means.

1:33Thank you.

2:00How he's staying alive They call him a badass And he's on the line Crankin' 88 minutes Cause they cool as ice Cause they're bad Jim Barney

2:08Jason Mantzoukas:Looking kind at night All is Joel getting literal Jason is getting laid Joel is making sure All the monkey shots get paid They're just a bunch of movies While they're making the grade Here's a real question for you How did this kid pay? Hello people of Earth And hello people of Philadelphia

2:28Jason Mantzoukas:We are live at the Miller Theater talking about a Gerard Butler classic. Some people say Rocky is a movie from Philadelphia, and I say no, Law Abiding Citizen is a movie from Philadelphia.

2:54Jason Mantzoukas:Let's talk about this film, shall we? If you've not seen it, IMDB describes it like this. A frustrated man decides to take justice into his own hands after a plea bargain sets one of his family's killers free. Law-abiding citizen. Well, yeah, that kind of skirts over a couple of details. Taglines, a man who loses everything is capable of anything. And then they killed his family. Now justice is his vengeance. Doesn't roll off the tongue, but it feels good. Budget,$53 million. opening weekend 21 domestic gross 73 this movie was successful worldwide 127 million dollars this deserves a sequel and hopefully tonight with all of you renting it here in philadelphia it might just turn the right wheels.

4:09Jason Mantzoukas:Someone at Apple TV is like, wait a second, hold on. Jerry, we got one. We're going to break down this movie. A movie that makes complete and total sense. A movie that doesn't have plot holes. A movie where I don't know who I'm rooting for. And I'm okay with that. But to do it, I need to bring out my co-host. Please welcome Jason Manzoukas.

4:50What's up, jerks? Let's go! Let's go, Philly! Ho-ho-ho! Oh, shit! We did it. Now, Jason... Paul, you said you weren't sure who you were rooting for. Yeah. I'm rooting for Jerry. Well... Kill them all, Jerry!

5:13Jason Mantzoukas:Kill them all! I will say, I'm with you. I was upset at the end, and I'm like, then I'm interrogating myself. I wish I could have driven by a crater in this city that Jerry Butler blew up. Did you remember... I remembered this movie and it... I didn't. Okay. I hadn't seen it, but I didn't even remember it existing. This is why I remember it. And this could be completely wrong, but I don't think so. This was a spec script that was going around and people said, we have our next seven. Like that's... People were like, you like seven? You got to read this script. I remember an agent was like, everyone's going wild about this script.

5:59I don't know why Other than it is a script That is like wow what an incredible Villain And everybody else sucks Everybody else is so drab And boring I don't care about anybody But Jerry and all I want Is for him to triumph over everyone 100 % More tunnels

6:25Jason Mantzoukas:Dig more tunnels Jerry More penises cut off by tiny little razor blades. That actually felt like more painful for him than the guy. I'm like, you've got to get it. It was too much. It was a lot. That scene I fast forwarded part of. I was like, I don't need this. I don't want to see it. I don't need any of this. Now, we are missing one of our co-hosts tonight, but we decided to call in a How Did This Get Made All-Star. You know this person from his podcasts, from his television shows like Happy Endings, from The Throwback, his brand new HBO comedy special. Please welcome Adam Paley!

7:31That's very... Let's see if you're doing that in about 45 minutes. So, a third of the way through the show? That's generous.

7:41Jason Mantzoukas:Adam, so excited to have you here. Thank you, so I'm so happy to be here. Thank you. I just want to set the room for you in this way. Gerard Butler has become one of the people that we have done the most in the show, his films. Maybe a patron saint of this show. Yes. Sure, he's keeping it going. Like, we worship at the church of Jerry Butler. He pays you more than serious. Yes, very much so. I will say, Jerry Butler made a video for this show. He knows where his bread is butlered. So I think we are always predisposed to enjoy a Jerry Butler, but you're coming in. You don't have to like a Jerry Butler.

8:19Jason Mantzoukas:I just want you to know if you feel this audience. You have to like it. this audience is, I mean... Pro-GB. Pro-GB. Oh, yeah. Just wanted to let you know that. This audience is chat GBT. We did get a little of the butt and butler here, too, with that scene where I feel like they were like, we need to add some sexy things. He's like, oh, the cops are about to come and get me? I better take off all my clothes. I'm surprised that none of the cops That came in were like Oh, you don't need You don't need to I'm surprised more people just don't do this as a strategy Yeah, me too If I know they're coming for me, guess what You have to look and touch at my dick I'm going to start doing it If I feel threatened by someone walking behind me Done I'll be like, I know exactly what you want If I don't like the second opinion songs I'm going to be like Take it off take it off I think that this movie if you don't like this movie if you do like this movie it teaches a very important lesson which is always use the peephole on your door because that's all it would have taken none of the movie happens if the peephole gets used and it's like I don't know who it is bloop oh it's a man standing with a bat cocked like he opens that door the bat wasn't from behind It was like Flintstones over the shoulder, like, ba-bonk.

9:51Can I ask a question? I have a couple of questions. Yeah, sure. And it's about our two baddies. I can't remember their names right now. Ames and... Taxidermy Jesse Plemons.

10:07Or imploding William Forsythe. Drowned Philip Seymour Hoffman. R.I.P. R.I.P. But my question is about the baddies. Sure. Are they there purposefully? Well, I... Or do we find out... Is this a random... No, because he says to the guy, the tagline, right? The fate tagline, which implies to me that he's involved with someone that Jerry has done questionable acts. I believe that, too, but is it ever... They never label it as such. I was wondering if I'd missed a component. One of the many ends that are yet to be tied. Truly, because for them to just... It is the equivalent of Alfie Allen killing John Wick's dog.

10:55Right.

10:55Jason Mantzoukas:It's like, why? Why? You can take a spoiler from John Wick 1. Hang on. Oh, you guys can know that's why he does everything. Get out. Get out. John Wick's dog dies in 1. You bring up a good one. In the prestige, he's playing twins. Dude. Dumbledore dies He's not playing twins He is twins He's playing Just like Danny DeVito and Arnold Schwarzenegger I'll tell you about the usual suspects But I'd rather tell you about Kevin Spacey Where he ended up I wasn't sure Were they there because of some Vendetta against Jerry Butler Or was it just random It would seem like at one point There's moments where they confront each other Where someone could say like see?

11:42Jason Mantzoukas:But they don't do it. I mean, he says, like, you can't escape fate, but without any backstory, that's a tough line. It's like, well, if you have kids and a wife, they will get murdered and raped. That's fate. Is that it? You got out, you started a family, but we're going to pull you back in? You can't run. It's like, you still did all that hitman-ing. Yes, completely. But it seems like he's killing leaders of third world countries. It wasn't like he was taking care of business in Philly. And he's also a tech. They keep saying he's a tactician. A brain engineer. An engineer. And a brain. He's not like.

12:18And now the first scene we do meet him he is dealing with explosives at the kitchen table. Yes. While his daughter is drawing. Oh it's so good. And I love that they try and make him nerdy at the beginning. Yeah it's oh my god it's like yeah all of a sudden Jerry Butler's Rick Moranis. Yeah.

12:36Jason Mantzoukas:If we put his hair down he'll look real nerdy. Yeah. Because he even does stuff like, oh, but I, oh, um. I also couldn't figure out what is the time frame of this movie. Ten years pass, and it's very hard to tell. What? Yeah. Yeah, they say ten years. Yeah. When? When do, wait, wait. I'm not kidding. When do those ten years pass? When Jamie Foxx comes home from the first trial, he's like, let me talk to my daughter, and Regina's pregnant. And then the daughter's, like, playing in a cello concert. It takes ten years. That's the same daughter? Yeah. it takes yeah okay okay that helps me no but i that helps that does help me because yes because i was like when the fuck did he dig this tunnel when did he dig the tunnel he had 10 years okay he had 10 years okay okay okay holy shit that fucked me up yeah i wrote so many times where what's the time frame where didn't he just didn't this i was so confused well the amount of times that I wrote down, what year was this movie made?

13:41This is a great... Everyone has flip phones, but also everyone has iPhones. Yes. Smartphones and landlines. And landlines and iPhones and old school recording attacks. I'm pretty sure I saw Sidekick. An Iraq 2 bomb robot. Yes! The year... Iraq 2. The empire strikes back of Iraq wars. You could tell the robot looked janky.

14:07Jason Mantzoukas:It wasn't from the first one. 2009 2009 it's you know it's it's right in that i would have said earlier you you mentioned john wick paul yeah and like i thought it had way more john wick than seven right but was john was the first john wick made by the time this movie was made let's see i mean i don't think i think it's 2012 2012 because or later that's crazy to me that john wick the keanu reeves yeah who says like two words in that whole franchise is more likable for revenge murders for his dog than Gerard Butler for the murder and raping of his wife and child. I mean, this is the tricky thing though, because this is a movie where I feel like there's a lot of big dick energy between both stars, because Jamie Foxx is like, well, I'm not a bad guy.

15:03Jason Mantzoukas:And Gerard Butler is like, but I gotta also be sympathetic. Like, they're too sympathetic. The movie that it reminded me of was The Fugitive. Okay. For a lot of it. Before he goes to prison, obviously. Sure. How? When you saw The Fugitive, were you on Mushrooms? Yes. How does this remind you of The Fugitive? Just that idea of the injustice of, now obviously he's not blamed for it. Sure. But the injustice of the inciting incident is his wife and daughter are murdered. Justice is not served. Now he's not made culpable, but nonetheless. I thought he was. Jerry. Oh, oh, oh. Jerry Butler's not blamed for it.

15:38I'm sorry, is what I mean in this movie. But nonetheless, and it then becomes about the two of them on opposite sides. But, like, Jamie Foxx is outmatched in every single way at every single turn. Yeah, go ahead. Sorry. And when they meet the guy in the subway, and he's like, I'm a spy. Oh, I love that guy. He's not even what I am. This movie has so many bad writing. I wrote them down. So many bad writing? So many bad writing. That's the only way to say it. It has so many bad writing. It has so many bad writing. I think this podcast has so many bad writing. And that comes from someone who does so much good reading.

16:12Oh, wait, was that a quote? I do so much good reading, so I... She knows about bad writing. I know bad writing. But there's so much, there's so many lines. Like, she's 10 years old, Rick. It's like, I'm okay.

16:28Jason Mantzoukas:Well, when Leslie Bibb says, I'm 35, and you're like, well, it doesn't seem like she's like, and I've devoted a lot of my life. I'm like, wait, she's supposed to be way younger What she's saying is I've given up on having certain things Because I believe in this job Which is to say, at 35, she thinks she's like Washed up She's R.I.P. And then she does die Wait a minute That's Leslie Bibb? Yeah That's Bibb Holy shit Honestly, I thought it was the girl from Suits Not Meghan Markle Meghan Markle? No, I know Meghan Markle. From suits. There's a tall blonde on suits. Yes, I know who you're talking about.

17:09Yes. I was like, oh, I guess it never happened for her after this. How much suits are you watching? Oh, what, the L.A.

17:18Jason Mantzoukas:one? I'm trying to get a petition to get the L.A. one back. I remember that suits. Vests. I remember that suits. That's the Cupertino one. suits for whatever reason like someone in the marketing department at usa was like i got it what if we infiltrate every dry cleaner and make all the uh the dry cleaner like hangers have suits ads on them for a year all my dry cleaner only had suits ads whenever i pick up my dry cleaning and i was like this is great i loved it um how many people is that working on how many people or like, what should we put on tonight? You know what I just got from the dry cleaner?

18:02My winter coat. We should watch Suits. It looks good.

18:10Jason Mantzoukas:And especially if the dry cleaner does a great job. Like, wow, they got that stain out of their shirt. Suits is probably as good as them getting that stain out. And they were right. I mean, that's how FX got me to watch the bear. I was walking I was walking down the street A wild bear was chasing me And then always someone Someone was like, Chuck! And the bear turned around, was totally trained And then they were like, watch the bear, season 5 Coming on FX FX is always about being creative It's good marketing They just walk around too, I hear just screaming at people Behind! Behind! And when you turn around, they're like, watch the bear and then I just say, yes, chef, which is also what I say in bed.

18:58Well, yeah, that's because the other person's yelling behind.

19:04Good to have you back, pal. Happy to be here. I love that the, I'm sorry, go ahead.

19:10Jason Mantzoukas:I was going to say, I go up and I kiss older women on the mouth and I say, watch The Golden Bachelor.

19:18Jason Mantzoukas:But you're getting paid for that. I'm not getting paid for it yet, But I think if they get enough viewers, they might reach out. I love it. I love that as a strategy. I loved that the movie is moving at a sprint. And that's a little bit why I didn't clock the time. No, I didn't either. Because it's so condensed. The first scenes are the ones we described. The home invasion, the rape and murder of the wife and daughter. And I will say that that home invasion scene, you have barely met anyone to care. and then it's like bam boom boom and we're watching this thing transpire that is brutal like it's never like no it's a tough tough it's a tough first scene and there's and it's the cold open yeah the titles and credits are after this live from new york it's saturday night and i think i think it's a hard it's a hard thing like i'm sorry but like i do have an issue with young girl she should have run away she was standing there i hate it when a young kid is so in shock they have to stand there like i got a seven-year-old if i say stand there he's at the deli i've never seen my kids stand that still uh but i think what you really want and this is like the core problem with the movie is you need jamie fox to be an asshole yeah like he's got to be like who cares man but he's too sympathetic he's like hey dude i know your wife and kid were murdered and because he's nice you're like well you're nice and we also get insight into his family life and so in every way we're on his side in a way that I agree he should have been an absolute prick but he comes across I think caring oh for sure because the movie wants him to be the protagonist I believe I don't think they understood that Jerry Butler would be so charismatic and that we would root for him unequivocally.

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25:02Oh, man. They also... Over and over. I was like, what... Did I miss where Ben Franklin... It's... Who is it? It's not Ben Franklin. William who? William Penn. William Penn. William Penn. William Penn. William Hat?

25:16Jason Mantzoukas:William Penn. Hat? Penn. I see you saying that. I'm more of a friend of his brother, Gary. I I but like it's just you know it's just all those tropes are like so so there and he he is so dead in the law scenes and then you do get this little glimpse of Jamie Foxx when he's like with Regina you know and he's like he's making jokes talking to the baby yeah he's like you know you make better grilled cheese than your mom yeah it's like and he's really and he's like he's alive you know what I mean and then the law scenes are just like Like, whoa. Well, his stuff with Jerry, I wanted them to have that kind of friction and tension.

26:00Face-off chemistry. Yes, because they are going head-to-head.

26:04Jason Mantzoukas:Well, as you're talking about you want that tension, why are they holding Jerry Butler in the Hannibal Lecter cell? It's an octagon. It's a giant octagon. What is going on? There were guards on the roof. By the way, that is terrible use of that space. That is like 14 ,000 square feet of prison. And by the way, all open to get confessions. Like, it's an airy, like. I kept being like, why did he turn the thing off if there are guards all around watching him? There's so many weird inconsistencies in the logic of the whole thing. Because also, the skinny little dude who is standing in the door frame and like.

26:48Jason Mantzoukas:there's enough DNA evidence on that guy, but the guy who literally raped and murdered and touched every one of them, he's the only one who's touched everyone. Nothing from him. I've seen enough law and order and billions to understand how the attorney general's office works. Oh, but you don't watch Suits? Absolutely not. I respect myself. Okay, Gary Billions. Oh, man. Billions? His name is Billions. His name is Billions. Williamions. Are you being... No, no. By the way, they kind of just lie about how that evidence is. Like, oh yeah, you clean the crime scene weird. Again, he touched every single one of them, was all over them in every way.

27:37Jason Mantzoukas:Why not flip the other guy against the real baddie? I couldn't figure that out. I guess because it would be harder to see Jerry Butler kill the skinny guy who didn't do that much, but then he does anyway. So it doesn't really make a difference. He kills everybody. Oh, everybody. In what world are the lawyers watching an execution? Yeah. Oh, well, these lawyers do everything. In what world? That one guy goes, I just came because he has no family. Yeah. Like, what are they selling? That was his lawyer. That was the bad guy's lawyer. And then the other, there's like other people in the back row. It's like, what is this, on TKTS?

28:16I couldn't get into Oh Mary, so I guess I'm seeing this execution. I guess I'm seeing the execution of the less guilty one in this small trial in Pennsylvania.

28:25Jason Mantzoukas:And then Jamie Foxx, Leslie Bibb's like, I've never seen one before. He's like, eh, it's no problem. It's like he's going to sleep. This is fucked up. No, you're watching a man get killed. It's so minimized. Can you imagine working at that firm and you're like heading home early tonight, Jamie Foxx? Like, nah. I'm going to go check out an execution. Your daughter's cello recitals tonight. I gotta watch a guy get it. I gotta go watch the life go out of a man's eyes. And it's like... And then they cut it. They're cutting between the recital and the death penalty as if these are the two events. I wanted it so bad, and I'm going to jump to the end.

29:06Jason Mantzoukas:At the end of that movie, when that daughter played that cello, I wanted that cello to explode on the last one. So bad. He did it! He fucking did it! When the judge's cell phone headshots her, I was like, welcome to the legendary status on this podcast. This movie is incredible. I don't know if the phone was a rifle. The line of dialogue she delivers right before it is, I'm a judge. I can do whatever I want. But... No, you can't. You are bound by the law. And that, when you talk about some of the bad writing, that is exactly the example of bad writing because they're in the middle of a trial. It's all to set up this one moment.

29:53Jason Mantzoukas:In the middle of the trial, Jamie Foxx is like, oh, let me take this. That's the craziest thing you could ever do. And she's like, how many times do I have to tell you in a murder trial you can't pick up your phone, right? So, okay, I guess we'll buy that. so that's all set up just so when her phone rings i thought you said don't pick up the phone well this is a completely different scenario you're in private chambers there's nothing going you're having a casual conversation also why would you be that flip to the judge who you want on your side they treat everyone treats the judge in two seconds it's like hey judge how's it going, may you take it up the ass?

30:36Like, what? What? What? What?

30:39Jason Mantzoukas:What just happened? What just happened? Why are we angry? This woman feels very rational. She doesn't seem like she gets upset. She's getting the short end of the stick. And again, is the gun in the phone or was there a sniper? I couldn't figure that device out at all. I think it was a phone gun. I think it was a phone gun. A flip phone gun. I'll tell you right now, there's a reason I would never have it. Why is Jamie Foxx so obsessed with DVDs? Oh, we'll get the DVD. We'll get, and then, and then he says it five times and then says it as a joke in the law firm to someone like right before he's like, Oh, what about on DVD?

31:20I was like, what does he have stock in this medium?

31:22Jason Mantzoukas:Like what I think is going on is that Jamie Foxx has missed many of his children's performances and he has sent someone to tape it and then get a DVD of it so we can watch it wherever he is. Because the girl says, oh, the video of my recital is here. Right. It's delivered by a messenger. It's like, oh, yep, my school recital on DVD just was delivered. Here's the other thing. Don't answer the door. But at this point in the movie, Jamie Foxx's entire family should be in Alaska right now. But the minute one person gets killed, everybody should go away. The family accepts a DVD being delivered. She is a young kid in elementary school.

32:05Jason Mantzoukas:You're not getting... Who's delivering DVDs? Yeah, we taped it. We burned it to a DVD. We made a bunch of copies, and we're going to hand deliver it. It'll be to your house tomorrow night. Can you take it? That, to me, is Jamie Foxx shit. Jamie Foxx is like, get that transferred to a DVD and watch my trailer. And I feel like that's him improvising. But again, because that's the only time he's alive in the movie is when he's making some small thing about like you know i'm a good dad yeah the want is he he is trying so hard to be good the first moment that you meet him he's sticking up for leslie bibb that you know and the next yeah that was a weird moment because there was sexual tension yeah between him and leslie bibb if it wasn't for chester right i kept thinking we never see i kept thinking chester was somehow gonna be i thought chester was the guy behind leslie bibb a couple times i thought maybe chester was gonna to be the accomplice to Jerry Butler.

33:02I thought maybe Bibb was going to be Jerry Butler. I was looking for connections that at the end of the movie was like, JK, Jerry Butler's his own friend. At which point, kill Jerry Butler. He has nobody else working on his behalf.

33:18Jason Mantzoukas:I literally, when Cole Meany, they have that scene where Cole Meany's waiting outside the prison. I was like, oh, makes sense. He's the accomplice. I was like, oh no. He's just there. He's just... Is Cole Meany the one... Is Cole Meany the one that looks like Michael Madsen in an open casket? Yeah, I think so, yes. The police detective.

33:44Jason Mantzoukas:I do want to, I mean, also the cold weather and the sound of this shot, like every white person looks more pale than they need to. It's like they all look gray. Well, they look gray because they're in Philly.

34:01Jason Mantzoukas:Why? And I guess, as someone who has not attended many an execution, do they put everybody out like they're in the crucifixion pose? Like, arms, like, let's move the table in a standing position. I can answer this. My brother-in-law's a lawyer. They literally, like, they ratchet him up like he's on an amusement park ride. In Dead Man Walking, he's in that position. And I don't know if it's just movies that are like, oh, anybody dying by execution is a Christ-like character. Or if that's really how it's done. Does anybody have experience? I don't think they're launching them up. Morgan, are you here?

34:40Morgan is here tonight. Morgan is here? Yep. Have you talked to him already? There he is. Give it up for Morgan. Oh, there he is. Can we get house lights? Morgan, you better have some details. You better have trained to be a lawyer, Morgan. Because we're going to need your expertise. Are you a lawyer, Morgan? Okay.

35:01Jason Mantzoukas:But I'll ask you one more question. If this was a D &D campaign, would it be believable?

35:10Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, you'd have to have a really bad DM running it. We love Morgan. One of my favorite things in the movie is... Okay, I'm going to start by saying one of my most disappointing parts of the movie is when Jerry gets put in jail, it gives him less momentum. And all I want is for him to be skyrocketing forward like he is in Plain, or like he is in Kandahar, or like he is in Greenland, or like he is in any of the other... Geostorm. Any of the other phenomenal movies. London Falling? Oh, any of the... The Bannon... Any of the Mike Bannon movies. The Bannonverse? Absolutely. But when he goes to jail...

35:53You're talking about Steve Bannon, right? I know what you're reading. He really, he gets kind of stuck in a physical space. So he does so much. I love when he gets Del Frisco's. Oh, Del Frisco's. There's a Del Frisco's waiter. The Del Frisco's mention. There's a waiter there. There's a truck. There's a white-jacketed waiter from Del Frisco's in the prison.

36:15Jason Mantzoukas:And the funny thing about that is he didn't request the waiter. Like, he just requested the meal. He was like, I want a steak with all the fixings. and they're like, maybe I should bring the waiter in too. Well, I thought that that was the accomplice for a little because he does this weird thing where he goes, hey, Garcon, take 30 % or whatever, which is also like, the guy brought a steak all the way to death row. You think he could like... He's not even on death row. He's at that point... He's solitary, right? No, no, no, no, no, no. Because that's when he kills Post Malone. By the way... Again, not quite sure about this.

36:50That's how you time this movie out. No face tattoos on anyone.

36:53Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, truly. I do think that I agree with what you're saying about not having that Gerard Butler energy, but I do want to play the scene, which he does say the titular line. This is clip six. This is like the freak out moment with the judge, where again, everyone attacks the judge. Clip six. Your Honor, I'm a law abiding citizen. Boom. I'm just a regular guy. I am not a flight risk. And this is my first alleged offense. and the prosecution has not presented one single piece of evidence against me. It's a slippery slope, Your Honor. Haven't we seen the result of such violations both internationally and domestically?

37:34Case in point would be Dave v. McDonough, docket number 041325. I am actually inclined to agree with you, Mr. Shelton. The state has failed to establish a compelling basis for its motion and I will grant bail in the amount of...

37:52Jason Mantzoukas:Your Honor, I would caution you not to do that. Thank you. Excuse me? No, I don't think I will excuse you. You see, this is what I'm talking about. You were about to let me go. Are you kidding me? So much for acting. This is why we're here in the first place. You think I don't remember who you are, lady? I would tread carefully, Mr. Sheldon. Well, how carefully should I tread? Because apparently, I just killed two people. And you were about to let me walk right out that door. How misguided are you? I freed you a couple of bullshit legal precedents, and there you go, you jump on it like a bitch in Eden.

38:35You folks, you all hang out in the same little club. And every day you let madmen and murderers back on the street. You're too busy treating the law like it's a fucking assembly line. You have any idea what justice is? You are now in contempt. Whatever happened to right and wrong? Jesus Christ. Whatever happened to right and wrong? Whatever happened to the people?

38:55Jason Mantzoukas:Fail denied. Whatever happened to justice? And I bet you take it up the fucking ass, bitch. That's my new acting monologue. Whenever I have to do an audition for anything now. I would love it if that's in the trailer, but there's like a record scratch noise. When he turns and is like... And just becomes such an asshole. He's so good. Struggling with that Irish accent First of all Scottish Struggling with his Shrek And it's like Shrek voice is bleeding out In that monologue I like the choice that Schwarzenegger Eventually made where it's like I'm just going to have the Austrian accent I don't understand why he can't just be Shrek He basically Now is He just does Shrek And that sometimes there's like a little wink.

39:49Him and Statham now are basically like, doesn't matter what citizen, a citizen of what country they are, they have the accent. And they always, I prefer that. How did he know, so you're telling, so this is 10 years later, right? How did he know that he would get the same DA, the same judge? He's a brain, Jason. He's a brain. That is crazy.

40:10Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I think that maybe they were like, you know, you get dibs on it. Like, oh, if all the murders connect, to get Dibs to collect them all kind of a thing. Yeah. It's a Pokemon Go situation. But he is like, in that scene, he is working his ass off and he makes sense. Like his plan, not the way he executes his plan, but it's like, yeah, bad guys get off. I'm going to show you how bad you are. And the whole movie is predicated on that end scene where he's like, well, you did learn your lesson. I'm like, oh, that was it? Yes. Don't make deals with murderers And meanwhile He killed so many innocent people Who did nothing Who did nothing wrong Chester survives Chester lives To tell another tale Have you ever Put off replacing your glasses for way too long I do this all the time They're falling off my face And I don't know why I'm just not simply getting another pair of glasses I need them but guess what it's a process.

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44:45Jason Mantzoukas:That is a brick house prison and flames are shooting. I think it's pronounced brick house. But yeah, and also, the ending is so unfulfilling. Oh, yes. How do they decide in prison movies who gets short sleeve jumpsuits and who gets long sleeve? I think you get to decide. That's a GB choice? Oh, I think you get to decide when you enter prison. Oh, see, I think it's an actor choice. I feel like there was definitely a fitting day. Oh, yeah. Where they had the orange ones, the green ones, all there, and GB's going through it like, I don't know, I really want to show my guns, you know? Like, yes. Are we, what's the point of casting me?

45:28Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, he is, this is definitely skinnier Gerard Butler, too. He looks fucking great. Yeah, and you can see it when he gets naked for no reason. Oh, yeah. I mean, and this is... You can also date the movie because he does the naked scene, but is very clearly not on any kind of steroids. Right. And that kind of a scene now, the actor would be jacked on steroids, would be HGH'd out. He'd seem old looking like a tomato. But, you know, here's the thing. Tomato energy. Tomato energy. Jacked tomato. He should never be jacked because he is a low-impact kinetic operations guy. Low-impact kinetic?

46:13Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, low-impact kinetic operations. You know, it's spy stuff. That was such a crazy. L.I. Okay. There are so many crazy things that are said. In the beginning, when the guy holds the gun and tries to shoot him, and then there's little needles in the gun. Oh, I love that moment. He's like, that's a puffer fish needle. Yeah, I was like, that's a puffer fish. It's also great when he's doing a different voice for the blonde-haired cop. Oh, I have that. And then another one for the guy pushing the thing, which is like slightly racist. And I love that that guy. They're like, hey, Nando. What's up? Yeah, he's like, hola.

46:53Jason Mantzoukas:He's like, hola, S-A. Coma. Hola. Hey, child. Yeah. Oh, no, today has been local.

47:04Mia studia in librario. Did he kill that guy? Like, did he have to kill that guy? Yes, yes. That sucks for that guy.

47:13Jason Mantzoukas:Why are they letting a janitor into a solitary prison cell? Got to clean up. No, no, that was in town hall. Oh, okay. That was in town hall. How did he get out of prison? Oh, the tunnel. Tunnel. Got it. How did he get out of prison? I, you know what? I think I was confused. I thought he was coming out of a jail, So that was before the reveal that he has built an underground city that he can move around in. Oh, he's got train tracks under there. It is lighting. Like, like, honestly, I believe the cartels have seen this movie and are like, hang on. This looks this is a good idea. Maybe we should law abiding citizen drugs into the country.

47:53When they first find the tunnel, it looks cartoonishly old timey. Like, it looks like DuckTales.

48:01Jason Mantzoukas:Like it's like one of those things where like one guy pushes down the lever. You have to expect a scene. I expected a chase on one of those at the end. Like Gerard in the cart. That would have been incredible. Like Indiana Jones 2. Yes. This guy is. So once we understand that this movie is like he's got the tunnel system. This means that every night he's sneaking out. And no one ever. He's living his life. He's doing the lawyer. He's doing all of the hijinks of the movie. He's doing outside of his cell, which means in 2009, they have no cameras in this prison? No, they have plenty because he's hooked up to every one of them because they go, look.

48:42Oh, you're right. He's got pillows under the thing. They think it's pillows. I'm a kinetic engineer. I think I know how to fake it. I love Ferris Bueller and I fucking do it like that. This is the easiest part. You just put the pillows under the blanket. The next part is where it gets challenging.

49:00Jason Mantzoukas:But I guess the way that this movie kind of thinks about prison is that at 5 o 'clock, they stop really watching the prisoners. It's like, well, it's the end of business day. We don't have to watch a prisoner at night. It's because he's also coming back in. So at one point, someone would have to be like, do you hear that? Yeah, it sounded like a little door opened. What's crazy? It's probably nothing. Well, there's only one person in there, and there's no way in or out. So any sound, are you going to worry about everything, Carl? The movie is big in scope and scale. It's about justice and it's about this and that.

49:36Big, big themes and ideas. But it's really only about five or four people. There's so few ancillary. We don't know any of the other prisoners. We don't know any of the other lawyers beyond Bibb and Bruce McGill, the legend. We don't get any interesting side characters. When that guy comes in and he's the spy, I'm like, great. Give me some insight into this world. I want to know where these guys. Nope, not at all. It's so crazy, too, because every role is the most talented character actor in the history of cinema. I mean, everyone's great. This movie could have been called character actors making their nut for the year.

50:18Because it's like every one of them is like, that guy's amazing. And you have to suffer and watch Bruce McGill get blown up in a car. And sometimes be just seated like two seats down from the action, not even having lines. I was like, what? Give Bruce McGill the day off. No.

50:35Jason Mantzoukas:My favorite moment in the film was like, it's 6 a.m., you'll die. And so clearly they're working through the night. They decide, well, we've got to work in the prison. We've got to. We've got to work in the prison. And of course Jerry knows that's the only option. Yeah. So they're working at the prison. And then clearly around, like it feels to me like around 5.45 a.m. They're like, well, we didn't figure it out. And then they all just stare at the clock. All right. But I love that they. At any moment, we're going to die. And then they just wait until 6 a.m. Like, oh, we didn't die. Well, I guess he's a liar.

51:10Jason Mantzoukas:Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Well, there was very little like, do you think he did anything outside? Yeah. No one even, it was just like, well, I guess we were wrong. And also, there's so little, they don't discuss amongst themselves anything. No. With the exception only of Bibb at one point saying to Jamie Foxx, would you do it any differently? Right. And he says, absolutely not. He is unwavering throughout. And that is a failing of the movie, that the movie doesn't chip away at him and make him question himself. And at the very end, he's like, I don't do deals with murderers. And Jerry's like, yes, you learned your lesson.

51:48Jason Mantzoukas:And I'm like, what is up? Well, again, and that was the thing. It was like he needed to have that arc. You've got to change. I will say that I did like the part where, I think it was Bruce McGill goes, he's saving you for last. Yeah, no shit. And it was like, oh. You think it's because I'm Jamie Foxx? But it's also clearly like, we'll kill everyone around you, and then you'll get to watch. But they did, it does make sense when you think of the way they kind of did the worst, most gruesome killing right off the bat. Right. Like, the first murder we see Gerard do is cutting off some guy's eyelids so he can watch him cut off his own penis.

52:29Like, it's like wildly graphic and horrible. And by the way, he didn't just cut off his penis. He cut off his balls first. Yeah, why did he use different... Why were the balls tougher than the dick? He was like, I had to use four steps for the dick, and then I had to use a different one for the balls? I was like, seems like it's in the same. Honestly, everything down there is so soft. Yeah, it's like, what are we doing? A butter knife could take it off. I mean, get it with your hands.

52:55Jason Mantzoukas:I imagine at one point you must be like, I know you want this guy to feel everything, but you're like, I think I did it though, right? At a certain point you'd be like, and now's the part where I touch your dick. I'll put this carrot up your asshole. What would have been amazing is if somehow that guy, Darby, I think his name is, if he was the last one he builds up to, that's the person who most deserves justice or the violent ends that he meets, right? But he's first, so now I'm satiated. I'm like, great, he did it. But now he's like, no. Now I have to take down the system. And I'm like, wait, are you the Khaleesi breaking the wheel?

53:42What is this? I don't understand. Well, they even have that scene where we've already done a scene of them in the interrogation room. And then it comes back and he's like, I also want a steak. And Jamie Foxx is like, I think we did this. I think we did this. Yeah, I already gave you a bed. I already gave you a bed. And he's like, no, no, no, but I've got more information. Jamie Foxx is like, I don't care. He's like, well, you should care. He's like, okay, now I care.

54:07Jason Mantzoukas:Like, what? Well, this is also the moment in the film where the movie does not know the difference between a cop and a lawyer. because Jamie Foxx is like, we're going to get in the helicopter, boys. I'm like, how far away was Bill O 'Reilly or whatever his name was? Yeah, it's like he is leading police into crime scenes. Oh, constantly. Wait, is he a cop? He's like, I got this. So much so that at the end, he's in the cell with a gun. Yeah. And I'm like, you would not be here, my guy. That's a crime. Jamie Foxx. I hope you have a permit for that. Jamie Foxx also did not like even acknowledge. He's like 10 degrees south, five minutes, 62.

54:49Jason Mantzoukas:And he's like, got it. I know. I was like, wait, are minutes how we measure longitude and latitude? That's time. That's not distance. Well, I want to go out to the crowd. I want to talk to you all. Can I? Yeah, go. Yeah, please. Can we get house lights? And then also, if you're out there and you are a district attorney here in this town, we have one in the front.

55:17Paul, this is a district attorney right here.

55:20Jason Mantzoukas:Whoa, okay, hold on. All right, so hi, welcome. Thank you for representing. We did say that if you have some experience, you clearly do. You work here in the very cold hallways, it seems like. because also in this movie, they're clearly outside, but inside. Their cold breath is coming out of their mouth in an opening scene. All right, so tell me what you got. My name's Mackenzie. I just wanted to confirm that actually this is exactly what my job is like every day. Okay, great. So are you like Leslie Bibb, or are you like, where are you at? Are you more Jamie Foxx? Are you more Leslie Bibb? Are you more Bruce McHale?

55:53You've given it all away at 35. I am 33. What's your favorite execution you've ever seen?

56:01Jason Mantzoukas:She said that she's 33, she's got a bunch of cats That feels like, yeah, maybe Would you have made a deal like this? Like, the way that Jamie Foxx did Oh, yes, great question I'm not sure how Jamie Foxx is going to continue to be an assistant district attorney Because not making deals with murderers is really unworkable Sorry, everyone Well, he becomes the district attorney in a small room Very quickly When she says, grab me the Bible No, he becomes mayor Mayor, mayor. No. Wait, what? District attorney. District attorney. Oh, sorry. Gary Penn. He becomes Gary Penn. The mayor of Philadelphia is holding the Bible in that scene.

56:39Jason Mantzoukas:Right, yes. That's the mayor holding the Bible with a lifeless look? Like... The only character actor not cast in this movie. Wait, and Bruce McGill, he's taking Bruce McGill's position, right? Yeah. Okay, now, so my question, at that point, I was like, is Jamie Foxx helping? Is he the guy, yeah. Has he been the inside man because he wanted the promotion? Yeah. Which would have been cool. Not the case. So making deals with murderers is what you're all about. If you listen to Fox News, I think they would tell you that's what we're up to. Yeah. No, but honestly, like the criminal justice system, plea bargaining, it's kind of all built on that.

57:17For sure. We could get in a whole discussion, but, you know. Great. Give it up for Mackenzie!

57:23Jason Mantzoukas:Great work. Thank you. All right. There's been a lot of energy over here, which means good question or utter destruction. Here we go. Let's see. Let's see. All right. Hi, how are you? My name's Greta. First of all, I listened to your episode in dedication to April on Tuesday. I was making pancakes in my kitchen for breakfast and it made me cry. It was beautiful. So my question is, we touched on it a little bit earlier. during Gerard's tirade at the judge during his bail hearing. He kind of punctuated that whole thing with, I bet you take it up the fucking ass, I believe were his words. And I would like to know, A, what's the problem with that?

58:09And B, why is this such an insult?

58:11Jason Mantzoukas:I love this. Wait, what was the B? Why is that an insult? Oh. 2009. Yeah, 2009. This is 2009. This was before anal was normalized. Gay panic. Yeah. Because wouldn't it have been great if he was like, I bet you take it up the ass. And she was like, I do, but you're still out of order. And what's wrong with that? And what's wrong with that? I'm a judge. I can do whatever I want. Ring, ring, ring. Uh-oh. Boom. How? How? My phone is blowing up. Ha, ha, ha, ha. What's your name? What's your question? My name is Jenny, and not really a question, kind of like a second opinion for everybody. Sure. When my husband and I watch a movie, I play a game where I pause it and I go, do you want to know what the ending is?

59:03Okay. And he either tells me yes or no. Okay. Last night, we both liked my ending a lot better.

59:09Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, so let's hear your ending now. So here's what I thought was going to happen. I thought Gerard Butler was going to blow everybody up, kill everybody, and then frame Jamie Foxx. me too great and i thought that what was going to really happen was first i thought it was leslie bibb and then right after i said this she blew up so not her so then i was like off the bat like yeah i was like no i thought off the jump so no wait i thought leslie bibb was going to then take his job like gerard butler was going to get him in jail frame him and then she was going to have to be like we need somebody to pay for this and he's gonna give us testimony and you know and i see now i agree with this because why send the dvd to jamie fox's house i agree right and it was like and i thought oh they're gonna find the dvd in his house all the evidence because they just had finished saying that he records everything and then they were in the judge's chamber right before she like where um where she like they said all this crazy shit and he got it all on tape but you know he did so i was like oh he's gonna frame him now i thought so too well there we go you get hired i like that and also for those of you who are gonna come next with questions tell us the little games you and your spouse play yeah all right tell us about those little games i don't want to answer your question until you peek back the curtain into your own little we play a little game where I pause the movie.

1:00:41Hi, what's your name and your question? Hey, I'm Dan. I'm actually in this movie. Whoa! Whoa! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Dan! Give it up for Dan!

1:01:03Jason Mantzoukas:Dan! Dan, taking the Morgan Crown. Morgan, I'm so sorry. Dan, what did you do in this movie? So it's not in any recognizable way because I was Colm Meany's body double. Oh, whoa! I'm so sorry I said all that. Dan is a very good looking man. He looks in great shape. You've obviously been taking care of yourself. For the listener, Dan does not look like he's been I wouldn't want to see a picture of myself in 2009 either, you know? So there's a shot where they're first looking into the hole, like the cave. Yeah. And they're shining their flashlights. And it's my shoulder and my arm shining the flashlight.

1:01:53Wait. I love that. That's great. Nice. That's great. The better part of this story is those are not Gerard Butler's buns. Oh, wow. Wow. Wait a second. Are they yours? No? Okay. No, but I was there when they shot the body double doing the buns thing.

1:02:14Jason Mantzoukas:All right. What was the energy like on set? Anything that you saw that was interesting there? Any tensions? Any, yeah. What do you got? So, you know, they put the cover on his. We're still in the butt. On his junk. Oh. This seems to be the scene. You can also speak generally to the experience of being on the movie. Yeah. So I have an explanation. This scene really stuck with Dan. I have an explanation for why he gets naked. Oh, yeah. That was the only part of the movie that made sense to me. Because they tried to explain it in that part of the shoot. They were like, he gets naked so that the cops can see he's not armed.

1:02:53Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, so they won't just immediately shoot him. Got it. Okay. Well, I guess there's other ways to do it, but sure. Give it up for Dan. Dan. Great job. A tour de force. Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Great work. I just saw someone go, I was in it too. No. All right. So, all right, here we go. Hi, what's your name? Hi, my name's Will. Okay, and Will, you were in this movie? Yes, I was in it. I did nine days on this as a prison guard. Oh, wow. Were you there for the Del Frisco stabbing scene? Yes, I was. And they had... Yeah, I was. It was originally going to be a rack of lamb. I do remember that. Really?

1:03:31Talk about worrying about the wrong thing. The director liked the restaurant so much, they worked it into the script.

1:03:39Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, that's not hard to imagine. Yeah, they had the after party for the premiere at Del Frisco's here in Philly. Wait, there's a Del Frisco's here as well? Yes. Okay. Is it open late? it's right down the block. So I'm in the hallway when they bring the mattress in and I improv'd and I point my nightstick out and because of that, I didn't get a line when they put him in a cell. They took the line away from me because I wouldn't have been there. But it worked out because if I did, I would have gone to Del Frisco's and instead I went to the Philly Film Fest party and I met my wife. Oh! Yeah! Well!

1:04:13That's amazing! Two kids. Married 11 years, beautiful actress as well.

1:04:18Jason Mantzoukas:And any bits that you guys do together? Any little games you want to tell us about? Nicknames we'll take. If you have been in this movie, you are going to get preferential treatment. You're in this movie? No. Okay. While Paul goes upstairs, I will say that I knew someone who worked at Del Frisco's in New York who was like a server there and said that multiple times a year, Del Frisco's in New York, big like finance bro, power lunch, like alpha guys would go there. And multiple times a year, some guy would choke on a steak, go to the bathroom too embarrassed to ask for help or tell their friends, and they would find them dead in the bathroom.

1:05:07proud men dying choking on steak because they're too afraid to ask for help and you know get it together guys i am in the balcony hey

1:05:23Jason Mantzoukas:hello balcony monsters all right wait paul yes there's a bigger balcony oh i know okay I'm gonna get up there I think, right? That's fucking too hot Do I come back down to you? Hi, what's your name? What's your question? Hi, I'm Rachel So Wikipedia said this movie was edited down from an NC-17 It was already pretty bloody so I'm curious I know the answer to that It's the stabbing in the jail cell the rack of ribs scene It was very bloody but it was more bloody But that's bloody enough to get an NC-17? That's insane Well then he took the thing and ate his dick In there too He kept cutting off everyone's dick Let me come through this aisle He used the guy's dick As a weapon For the rest of the movie They had to change it to a state quote What we didn't see was down in that tunnel There was a bunch of dicks It was a dick tunnel Hi what do you got It's John and Paul I loved your book Thank you so much I appreciate you I just wanted to say this movie is what would happen with Batman if he saw his wife and daughter raped and murdered.

1:06:39Jason Mantzoukas:We don't even get upset if that's what the premise of the movie is. Wait. We've talked about that happening multiple times. And you guys just reacted like, what? I like that this is the origin story of Batman. So yeah, this is Philly's Batman is Gerard Butler? Makes sense. We're running out of water in the bit, Keeve By the way, that should be the shirt, Gerard Butler with a Batman cowl saying Philly's Batman Yes! That's a pretty great It's good until we get a cease and desist from DC So, buy them quick They'll be collector's items You ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight? I'm going up What I was going to ask When Paul goes up was Jamie Foxx going everywhere As a lawyer did remind me of Tom Cruise going everywhere as a doctor And Eyes Wide Shut I feel like these movies could That could be a similar universe And they meet up on Collateral Where do I know you from?

1:07:49It is crazy that this is the same actor From Collateral That's why I kept thinking what I was watching. It's like, that's Django Unchained. Yeah. They're the same person. I'm in the upper balcony. Wow.

1:08:04Jason Mantzoukas:Fuck. This is very high. That's like stressing me out. It's very high up here. Wow. Okay. Anybody in this level been in the movie? You were. Alright. I love how the audience has now kind of come to grips with a lot of people are going to be in the movie. Like, it's losing its luster. All right. Hi, how are you? Good. It was technically my car that was in the movie. Hey, that counts. That makes sense for the upper balcony. People down here were in the movie. People up there, my car was in the movie. In the aerial shot, you can see the roof of my house. To be fair, that's how he met his mechanic.

1:08:51What scene was your car in? It was in the parking lot of the prison. Oh, wow.

1:08:55Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, so it was a featured car. What kind of car? So my ex's dad at the time was running a company where he was renting out cars to movie sets, and he asked if I wanted my car to be in the new Jamie Foxx movie, so I was like, sure, why not? Yeah, and then when you found out it was a Gerard Butler movie, too, you were like, well, then, definitely. What kind of car was it? It was like a Dodge minivan. Pretty cool. If you're going to get a minivan, they'll get a Chrysler Pacifica. I knew it was going to be something memorable, to have someone call you and be like, hey, you know that weird piece of shit you drive around?

1:09:30I bet a prison guard would drive that.

1:09:33Jason Mantzoukas:Can you park that by the prison? By the way, we haven't even talked about the robot shotgun EMF device. Oh no, that's not a... That's not a shotgun at all. It is like a 50 caliber minigun and a bazooka. And it was just sitting out in the cemetery. No one noticed it. No one noticed it. Oh, it's rolling around like Johnny Five out there. I mean, I half expected someone to say Johnny Five is alive. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. Hi, what's your name? What's your question? Hi, my name's Esme. I have a question about the murdered little girl. Finally. Be cool, be cool. Yeah. Be cool.

1:10:13I like kids. She makes a bracelet for her dad and says daddy. And she makes a bracelet for her mom that says Heather. Why do you think that is? Wow. And you know what? That's another reason I wasn't super on Gerard's side at the beginning. I was like, this situationship seems weird.

1:10:35Jason Mantzoukas:It's going to take me about ten minutes to get downstairs, guys, so keep it going.

1:10:41I was thinking if the person that operated the robot gunman was at the premiere of this movie and walking the robot gunman down the... It was Gerard Butler. Yeah, but there was definitely a technique.

1:10:55Jason Mantzoukas:I was going to say, why is he wearing gloves? But I guess I understand. But the gloves look delicate to me. They did look delicate. It almost looked like a woman. I was like, maybe that would be good. He's wearing the gloves because you'd recognize Jerry's hands anywhere. Those big sausage whiskey pubs. All right, so here's some information about the sequel. In May 2022, it was announced a standalone sequel was in development. Wait, 2022? Yep. Wow. This movie must have had legs. Gerard Butler was going to serve as producer. Lucas Foster was going to return as his role as producer. And they were going to revisit these great characters, stating that the premise seems even more relevant today than when the original film was released.

1:11:37Okay, hang on, hang on. Wait, are you saying, did you just say Gerard Butler was going to be in it?

1:11:43Jason Mantzoukas:Well, he was a producer. Okay, okay. And then he goes, the filmmaker stated, we're going to blow your mind, dot, dot, dot, again and then uh while the plot has not been revealed uh they said that they see this film as a franchise and then in 2025 gerard butler said yeah every now and again we go oh it's a tv show that's happening no it's a prequel no it's a sequel butler laughs i don't know I would love it I don't know what's happening It's a shame Because I'm very proud of that movie It's very good I agree I would watch either a prequel I mean how they're going to pull that off I don't know I would love a prequel Where he is like That character is a A young kinetic engineer Blowing shit up I don't know what Or I would love even more if he somehow survives sitting on the napalm briefcase.

1:12:52And he's like half burned up and he comes back Two-Face style. I love this. You know, like a real and does it again. I also hated when they open that briefcase and that one cop goes napalm. Yeah, he doesn't know what the fuck he's looking at. Oh, and what's in there is a bunch of gobbledygook nonsense. and yellow liquid, like green slime liquid. It's like napalm. I was like, oh, that's napalm? So well lit.

1:13:19Jason Mantzoukas:I also thought he was able to really figure out that air down to the minutes when he put that guy underground. And I was like, that guy could have probably held out 15 more minutes, I think. And no one gave a shit. They must have really hated Bill because they were like, Bill's dead. Yeah, but let's fuck with this guy more. And you're telling me they can move that briefcase bomb all the way to the prison without it blowing up. Jerry didn't set in some sort of switch that's like, oh, if this gets moved, this gets picked up. Any kinetic movement sets it off? Absolutely not. It's all potential. And I was rooting for it to blow everybody up.

1:13:58They should have both died. Yes. Oh, you mean Jerry and Jamie Foxx? Yeah. Oh, that would have been cool. That would have been great. Because honestly, I want to see Regina go off and meet someone. Yeah.

1:14:09Jason Mantzoukas:She needs to get out of that. Again, I wanted the daughter to blow up at the very end. Yeah, but Regina needed a new start in New York. Wouldn't it have been great? Tell me this wouldn't have been great. Jerry blows up, cuts to Jamie Foxx in the auditorium with his daughter's recital. She's like, bam. Yeah. The violin headshots are straight away. Right. No? Okay. Philly. Interesting. Originally, Gerard Butler was supposed to play the Jamie Foxx role. Oh, interesting. And Jamie Foxx was supposed to play the Gerard Butler role. If you asked Gerard Butler, he said, I decided to switch parts. If you asked Jamie Foxx, he says, I decided to switch parts.

1:14:58I would have loved it if Gerard Butler played both roles. And they were twin brothers, prestige style. One has an accent, the other sort of has an accent.

1:15:12Jason Mantzoukas:All right, obviously we have an opinion about this film, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

1:15:23Jason Mantzoukas:Hi, my name is Nguyen.

1:15:29Bum bum, let's forget the law. We don't need any order. But bring on the torture

1:15:47So many gruesome deaths Unexplained prison beds How did they not know that People would blow up in those cars

1:16:01American accents are hard Bum bum, how did this get made? I give it five stars. Amazing, great job. Law and Order theme song. Love it. Old school Law and Order, original Law and Order theme song. I didn't realize there was going to be a Kill Tony portion of this show.

1:16:27Jason Mantzoukas:Yep. Law-abiding citizen has the average review of 4.7 out of five stars. Wow. I don't disagree. 84 % of the 5 ,725 reviews are five-star reviews. Carl Pierce in 2013 writes, Gerard Butler is, in quotes, the man. What he had to do just to dig that tunnel, equipped with anything and everything, completely lit up, rail car to haul all that dirt, So here's the question. What happened with all that dirt?

1:17:18Holy shit. That's fucking awesome. Five stars. Five stars. That's it right there. I love when you read one which is like, what does this person care about? the dirt wow the dirt uh as he built an underground city what happened that that i mean i'm sure he has a little game with his wife where he says where do you think all that dirt went but he still gave it five so he loved it oh yeah loved it he's like i bet he put it in a dump and he says I bet he put it at the beach and then we fuck. I like this movie, babe. It's no Shawshank. You saw what happened with the dirt in Shawshank.

1:18:08Jason Mantzoukas:Rap R. Does not give this five stars, but ten. How is that allowed? I don't know. But the title of the review is Ten Stars, Finally. And it starts off like this. A good movie for once. Oh my god. After renting and watching this movie Saturday night, not an hour later, I bought it. Who wrote that? The guy from January 6th in the Buffalo hat? Oh, the QAnon shaman? Yeah. This is one of my favorite movies now. The acting, amazing. The story, amazing. I can't stop thinking about it or stop telling people about it. Come Monday morning, I had five people I told to watch this movie by Sunday night, and every one of them agreed, this movie kicks, and then it's all written, so he doesn't want to be vulgar, ass.

1:19:05Jason Mantzoukas:But he wrote it in an exclamation point and dollar cents. I agree with some of the reviewers that the ending could have been better, but it had to come to an end.

1:19:17That review feels like it was written by Chris Christie.

1:19:21Jason Mantzoukas:This is a must-own movie for movie fanatics like me. It's a mix of seven and maybe Death Sentence with a little Silence of the Lambs. Maybe? Amazing five-star movie. No, ten stars. Unrated edition only available on Blu-ray? Fuck you. Trying to force Blu-ray discs on us for extra stuff is criminal. Screw Blu-ray And that's all in caps And that's from President Donald Trump On Truth Social I would believe it If Trump tried to appoint Jamie Foxx's character Attorney General of the United States The character Someone get the Bible He's got a 95 % conviction rate Mary Ann Greenlee writes, this film was riveting and it shows just how the justice system in this country really is.

1:20:29Jason Mantzoukas:Quote unquote unfair and quote unquote manipulative. And what the character that Gerard Butler played so brilliantly is necessary for the rest of us to see. Another example of how one man can make a difference. he changed Jamie Foxx's character totally around and made him into a new and better man I love this movie so much that the instant I saw it I had to own it I can watch it anytime that I want and I enjoy it every time great acting super exciting kudos and accolades to whoever created this movie. This film is one of my very favorites and reaches in and touches that part of me that knows that existing way that the court system is today is not justice at all.

1:21:22Jason Mantzoukas:And we get to experience and get that given the opportunity and experience of what Gerard's character had to go through, we would do the exact same thing to make the criminals of the world see that there are a whole lot of people out here that if we had the chance and the skills would see that the criminals need to suffer the same way that their victims suffer. The criminals of this magnitude never get to suffer the same way that their victims suffer at their vile and sick ways. And in this film, we get to vicariously get to have our revenge button satisfied. Great way to avenge a wrongdoing. Five stars.

1:22:12Jason Mantzoukas:Title, justice at its finest. Holy shit. That, that is an audition monologue. A couple of things that don't make sense in this movie. The neurotoxin would have made Darby collapse, and he would not be able to hold himself upright. The graveyard murder robot would have also knocked out the radios if it was an EMP device. Yeah, that was the problem with the robot. Clyde should have had scars when he stripped down naked from being stabbed in the belly. That's true. It says, pre-trial suspects are held in county jail, not prisons, and not max security. No corrections officer would give a lawyer a key to an inmate's cell.

1:22:55Or let a waiter in the prison.

1:22:59Jason Mantzoukas:Well, that goes to this one. Here's a spork. Prison guards would never allow a steak bone to enter a jail cell. Steak bone. They gave him a spork. Pennsylvania correctional officers wear gray and black uniforms, not white. The district attorney is an elected county official. The mayor has no jurisdiction over the position, nor the authority to appoint one and make decisions regarding the office. Pennsylvania does not have wardens. And confessions must be given voluntary. Trading goods for confession is bribery. That's a couple of inconsistencies. Wow, incredible. And I will say, but you know what?

1:23:40Jason Mantzoukas:What is this movie really about? Well, we asked one person who didn't see it to explain it. Oh, you guys didn't know what Law-Abiding Citizen with Jamie Foxx, Two Exes, and Jerry Butler is about? Okay, that's weird. It's a wonderful motion picture. Of course, I haven't seen it, but I will speak on it. It's about two dear friends who set off on a buddy road trip together from New York City to LA. And one of them is a businessman, a regular nine-to-five, or living that corporate life, just clocking in, but also fading away. A guy fading away, losing his life force. Not a lot going on behind the eyes anymore.

1:24:33and that's Jamie Foxx. On the other hand, we have Jerry Butler, his old friend from college, and they're off to California to see someone's passed away, I think, that they knew. And so they're going to a series of circumstances, the FAA, you know, cutting back air traffic control. They've got to drive. Don't worry about why. And when they set off on this trip, what we come to find out is that Jerry Butler is actually in quite a bit of trouble many gambling debts and he's got a lot of people after him and Jamie Foxx is the law-abiding citizen and doesn't want anything to do with this he is straight laced as they come of course there's a giant scene that happens when they get to Vegas but I'm not going to reveal that I want you guys to just enjoy the film but yeah it's so much fun and they go to honor their dear friend their fraternity brother who's passed from a terrible disease you know and they're trying to deal with that too and how precious this life is and so is this the time for Jamie to kind of let his hair down and is this the time for Jerry to grow up well we're going to find that out in a law abiding citizen there it is Oh, accurate.

1:25:57Pretty close. Pretty close. By the way, I would love to watch that movie. I love it. I mean, that movie sounds dynamite. Would you recommend it, Jason? Hell yeah. I didn't press pause once. I was just enjoying it. I was letting it wash over me like a cool Scottish breeze. Yeah, I had a blast. I thought it was fun as hell. Yeah, as a joke.

1:26:23Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. I was on the regional train from New York today coming up here. It was packed. I was on the Asella. I missed my Asella. And as I sat next to a gentleman who sat next to me, he looked over and goes, good flick. And I said, sir, come to the Miller Theater tonight. He's like, nope, I'm taking 10 more stops to Baltimore. I like this movie. I like it. I think it could have been better and I feel like that is really the big thing. This was a movie that was supposed to be directed by Frank Darabont. He walked off the film because they changed too much of the plotting of it. Do you have what they changed?

1:27:11Jason Mantzoukas:I have a couple of the details. They definitely made the lawyer likable. I do think that's some of the stuff here. It was probably a lot of the notes when they switched characters that each actor wanted. Right. I think that that, like, wait, hold on. I had a thing here. I'm curious because I agree. It's so close to a good movie. Yeah. It has all of the pieces and parts, including, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a fantastic script originally that got Frank Darabont, that got all these actors. Because, again, it's a murderer's row of actors who were like, yes, put me in. I love it. All right, so this is what I was looking for.

1:27:50Jason Mantzoukas:I'm sorry it took me a second here. The law-abiding citizen went through several versions before F. Gary Gray decided on the overall hated ending. There were rumors that Jamie Foxx demanded a new ending where his character kills Clyde to save the people of City Hall. In one version, Nick and Clyde fought in hand-to-hand combat, leading Nick to be arrested. His name was Nick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, yes, and Jerry's name is Clyde. so then Nick was going to be arrested and this goes to our friend's point here then he makes a deal with the district attorney to become the new Clyde so now he's Batman?

1:28:32Jason Mantzoukas:I guess so and who is Leslie Bibb? well it was supposed to be Catherine Zeta Jones no way well I mean would she have had a better storyline? the character is underserved by the script in every way, shape, and form. Yeah. You know? I guess you're right. And if you are to follow the coordinates from the film, Oh, yeah. you will be led to the hotel that the cast and crew stayed in in Philadelphia. And you will also find many people buried alive there. You know, I was supposed to play Chester. You shot that scene, right? I shot my one scene. And it was just you emailing him? And I went for it. You were eating mac and cheese with one hand type.

1:29:16Which is, I believe, Hugh Jackman in Swordfish.

1:29:22Jason Mantzoukas:Pally, you have an amazing podcast that I feel like I've talked to so many people that have said it's helped them. Jason and I have been guests on it, but you were talking about men's health in a way that I feel like people don't actually ever talk about, like men's health. Oh, thanks. Men's Health, specifically Men's Health Magazine. Men's Health Magazine. It's a podcast about Men's Health Magazine. Every episode of the podcast covers another issue of the magazine. Five of the episodes we've recorded are about Kumail Yeah

1:29:53No, it's like a podcast about health For people who are done by before pictures Right Usually health podcasts are done by after pictures But I'm a before picture My co-host John Gaber is a before picture So it's done by people who can't get it together And you guys are talking to people like us but you're also talking to doctors. You're talking to, like, you're genuinely pursuing and investigating and interrogating how we are taking care of ourselves or not. Exactly, yeah. And what steps we're doing to just, like, prolong our lives. Because I think everybody, even people who are not, are doing something daily to keep themselves alive.

1:30:34And it's called staying alive. There it is. Oh, yeah, look at that. But I also, I do have to just contractually, I've been told I have to do this anytime, The Smartless logo is up there. If you're looking for a new mobile carrier...

1:30:52Jason Mantzoukas:I'm sorry, I have to do this. Smartless mobile. You are on Smartless mobile. I am on Smartless mobile. My mom on Smartless mobile. Every time I call Pally, I have to hear Will Arnett. He picks up for you. He does my message. You call me, he picks up. Hey, I had a Pally's phone. I want to also just talk about your HBO special, which is fantastic. Again, it's available. Yeah, it's on HBO Max and Go. And what is that called? I'm sorry. It's called HBO Max Go. Yes. My special is called An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally. It's on HBO. You could stream it tonight or anytime. It's fantastic. We talked a lot about this on our last Looks episode.

1:31:34Jason Mantzoukas:We love it. It's great. There it is right there. Oh, cool. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much for doing that. It's so nice of you guys. Jason. All right, let's go. A Man on the Inside, Season 2. Yes. I'm in it. Percy Jackson, Season 2. Yes. I'm in it. And not for nothing, Taskmaster, Season 19. Every episode available on YouTube. Watch it. Comment. USA. USA. I want to plug really quickly. Every week, Rob Hubel and I go into the dark web on YouTube. And also my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma. It's still available. And you can listen to it. You can read it as a softback. It has extra pages.

1:32:25Jason Mantzoukas:But if you want it signed, you can just order it from my website. And we go through a local independent bookstore. You get a signed copy. Thank you, everybody, for coming out tonight. We're going to give you a chance to take pictures right now. Great work, Philly. Great work. You all are fantastic. We love you. Thank you for coming. We know there are a million places to spend your money. We appreciate that you spent it on us tonight. Thank you, thank you, thank you. You are amazing. Thank you for listening. Thank you. We'll see you soon. Bye-bye. Eat shit, Philly. That is a wrap. If you have a correction or omission from this episode, leave me a voicemail at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K or write a comment on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm and I will respond to your messages next week on Last Looks.

1:33:08Jason Mantzoukas:And remember, if you listen to this podcast on Apple or Spotify, make sure you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. It helps us and we appreciate it a lot. And lastly, I give a huge thanks to our behind the scenes team. I'm talking about our producer, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, our engineer, Casey Holford, our social media manager, Zoe Applebaum, and our intern, Quinn Jennings. We will forever be thankful to the one and only Averill Halley. That's all I got. We'll see you next week on Last Looks. Bye for now. The new strawberry watermelon refresher is now at McDonald's.

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From the publisher

Gerard Butler and Jamie Foxx star in the 2009 crime thriller Law Abiding Citizen—a movie that exists in a world where lawyers and cops are the same job. LIVE from the movie's setting in Philadelphia, HDTGM all-star Adam Pally (Staying Alive) joins Paul and Jason to break down the slew of plot holes, the nude arrest scene, the cell phone headshot explosion, the old timey underground prison tunnels, the robot machine gun, and so much more. Plus, multiple audience experts provide insider info during the Q&A and June sends a message describing what she thinks the movie is about.


 

Check out Adam's new comedy special An Intimate Evening with Adam Pally on HBO Max!


 

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