Little Italy (Re-Release)

21 Aug 2026 · 1 h 10 min · 34 chapters

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In short

A re-release discussion of the 2018 romantic comedy Little Italy (set in “Little Italy” in Canada), focusing on why it feels like a mishmash of Italian-American stereotypes, wrong accents, and a confusing timeline.

Guest backgrounds

This episode is hosted by Paul Scheer with co-hosts Jason Manzoukas and June Diane Raphael (no additional guests mentioned).

Key claims

The film’s “Little Italy” looks like New York but is in Canada, yet none of the characters sound Canadian. The leads’ Italian “look” is criticized—Hayden Christensen’s hair is dyed an extreme jet black and both leads often look “undead.” The movie is called dated and implausible for its 2018 release (e.g., a “pizza app” and other modern elements feel out of place). The hosts argue the romance lacks chemistry (especially in bloopers/gag reel) and the plot motivations are unclear (why the heroine leaves for England and why the leads fight).

Notable examples

firecrackers in produce, “moron sandwich” line, disaster-level rain soccer scene, rooftop lamps that would cause electrical fires, “Pizza Organica” wedding signage, and a late reveal that “Luigi” (Li Xiaoping) is Chinese and gay.

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Setting Up the Discussion

0:17 to 0:27

The hosts warm up and set the stage for discussing the movie 'Little Italy'.

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Setting Up the Discussion

3:08 to 3:41

The hosts warm up and set the stage for discussing the movie 'Little Italy'.

“So without any further ado, enjoy a little Italy.”

First Impressions of 'Little Italy'

3:41 to 5:00

The hosts share their initial reactions and questions about the film.

“We're back in the studio talking about a romantic comedy for the ages.”

Plot and Setting of 'Little Italy'

5:00 to 6:08

Discussion on the film's setting in Canada and its portrayal of Italian culture.

“Macaroni is coming over with Sister Cannoli, and everyone's going to eat the festo.”

Character and Accent Analysis

6:08 to 7:49

The hosts analyze the characters and accents in the film.

“It's like, oh, literally, we had a bunch of characters.”

Critique of Hair and Makeup Choices

7:49 to 9:52

The hosts critique the hair dye choices and overall appearance of the characters.

“No, 1 million percent because they're just about 10-year-old kids.”

Exploring Cultural References

9:52 to 13:01

The hosts discuss cultural references and stereotypes presented in the movie.

“Was any of this, do you think the majority of this was filmed, like, on an Air Canada?”

Connections to Other Films

13:01 to 14:00

The hosts draw parallels between 'Little Italy' and other films, discussing themes and accents.

“She was on a computer one time when she's making her menu, Which is like when she makes her menu for her restaurant.”

Exploring The Specialists and Accents

14:00 to 17:01

Discussing the film The Specialists and the authenticity of accents in Canada.

“Are you guys familiar with the movie The Specialists?”

Pizza App Dilemmas

17:01 to 19:01

Debating the practicality of creating a pizza app for a small restaurant.

“So you can't even blame like it's like systemic racism.”
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Culinary Isolation in Canada

19:01 to 20:00

Discussing how Canadian characters are portrayed as unaware of modern pizza toppings.

“They react to the idea of putting a fig on a pizza.”

Mystic Pizza Connections

20:00 to 21:21

Connecting the film to Mystic Pizza and reflecting on the director's career.

“But when we talk about things being like Little Italy, Little Korea, it's usually adjacent to a giant city.”

Fond Memories of Annabeth Gish

21:21 to 22:54

Sharing personal anecdotes about Annabeth Gish and her impact in Mystic Pizza.

“Young, like I have a crush on this woman in this movie who to me was so beautiful and so like exciting to watch.”

Fond Memories of Annabeth Gish

23:06 to 24:06

Sharing personal anecdotes about Annabeth Gish and her impact in Mystic Pizza.

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Hayden Christensen's Role

25:20 to 28:00

Analyzing Hayden Christensen's portrayal as a delivery boy and his connection to pizza.

“And so that's what I found to be so weird.”

Soccer Skills and Athletes

28:00 to 30:25

The hosts discuss the portrayal of soccer skills in the movie and their own athletic backgrounds.

“They play a team sport one-on-one, which is the dumbest thing ever because one person always has to be the goalie.”

The Moron Sandwich

30:25 to 31:01

A standout line from the movie brings laughter and highlights the absurdity of the scene.

“First of all, I want to talk about the London.”

Confusing Character Relationships

31:01 to 34:17

The hosts unpack the confusing dynamics between characters and their motivations.

“But at that point, I was like, oh, we might be in for a really fun ride.”

Stereotypes and Side Characters

34:17 to 36:57

Discussion on the film's portrayal of secondary characters and cultural stereotypes.

“Their, and their breakup, I literally was like, when they got upset with each other.”

Pizza Competition Plot Overview

36:57 to 40:04

An overview of the movie's plot involving a pizza competition and family rivalry.

“He is so far away from that group, not a part of it.”

Marcus Limonis's Potential Appearance

40:04 to 42:00

The hosts humorously discuss the possibility of having Marcus Limonis on the show.

“Because I would say that one of the things that was so confusing to me was that first scene, there are eight people working in one small pizzeria.”

Exploring Marcus Limonis and Cultural Stereotypes

42:00 to 45:30

The hosts discuss their thoughts on Marcus Limonis and cultural representations in film.

“Just so you know, there is an episode where we talk about Marcus Limonis.”

Romantic Tropes and Movie Critique

45:30 to 49:20

A critique of romantic tropes and character relationships in the movie 'Little Italy'.

“If people in Canada have to get in the bath with their clothes on, then take them off to get in the shower.”

Plot Twists and Character Revelations

50:14 to 56:00

Discussion of plot twists, character developments, and the film's overall coherence.

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Discussing Canadian Connections in the Film

56:00 to 56:56

Explore the connections between the film and Canadian culture, including financing and actors.

“All this talk, though, makes me go like, there is no real reason, though, that you needed to say it was Canada.”

Memorable Performances in Little Italy

56:56 to 59:19

Highlight humorous performances and character interactions in the film.

“I think that was, I bet that is part of it.”

Prank Wars and Romantic Misadventures

59:19 to 1:02:10

Discuss the prank war subplot and the romantic dynamics between characters.

“I would say this is the most truthful performance of weed.”

Analyzing Character Chemistry and Themes

1:02:10 to 1:05:16

Examine the chemistry among characters and the film's romantic themes.

“And there's a moment where she says, like, you're never going to leave.”

Cameos and Brand Collaborations

1:05:16 to 1:06:28

Identify unexpected cameos and brand partnerships within the film.

“And I felt like Hayden Christensen and Emma Roberts was tall.”

Second Opinions on Little Italy

1:06:28 to 1:09:51

Read and discuss audience reviews and opinions on the film.

“That is John Lajoie with his second opinion theme, which I love so much.”

Exploring Little Italy in Canada

1:09:51 to 1:10:03

Discuss the real-life Little Italy in Canada and its cultural significance.

“How did this get made in Little Italy, Canada?”

Exploring Little Italy in Toronto

1:10:03 to 1:11:03

Learn about the Little Italy district in Toronto and its history.

“I mean, I bet a bunch of cities have Little Italys.”

Box Office Performance of Little Italy

1:11:04 to 1:12:20

Discover the box office performance and rankings of the movie Little Italy.

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Thoughts on Watching Little Italy

1:12:21 to 1:13:13

Get insights into the viewing experience of the movie Little Italy.

“I would watch it just because of how much of a parody of one of these movies it seems like.”
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Transcript

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1:40Jason Mantzoukas:Hello, people of Earth. This week, we are taking a summer break from Last Looks and treating you to a re-release of a classic episode. That's right, Little Italy. Oh, one of my favorite Canadian films. But before Little Italy starts, I wanted to announce that our new movie, the one that we're going to be watching next week, well, I guess has been foreshadowed because if you listen to our thrashing episode, you know that Jason demanded that we cover a very specific movie and Jason got his wish. That means next week we will be watching 1985's The Legend of Billie Jean starring Helen Slater and Christian Slater, and they are not related.

2:19Jason Mantzoukas:Although Christian did have a little bit of a crush on Helen. Now the IMD breakdown of the plot reads with her brother, falsely accused of attempted murder, a blonde Texas teenage stunner. That's kind of a creepy write-up already. Victim herself of attempted assault becomes a famous outlaw and martyr as both of them run away with friends to try to clear their names. You can stream The Legend of Billie Jean for free on Tubi and YouTube. And if you have any corrections from our last episode on Triple X. Don't worry, we'll cover both Triple X and the legend of Billie Jean on our next Last Looks episode.

2:57Jason Mantzoukas:So please do not hesitate to leave us a voicemail at speakpipe.com slash HDTGM or write to us on our Discord at discord.gg slash HDTGM. Now that's all I got, people. So without any further ado, enjoy a little Italy. Hey, parzanos, grab your macaroni and cannolis. We're gonna go see a movie. Manja! We saw Little Italy, so you know what that means. Now it's time for How Did This Get Made? We're gonna have a good time, celebrate some failure, not just be a hater, cause you know you wonder, how did this get made? Let's follow in the mediocrity of some bar art. Perhaps we'll find the answer to the question, how did this get made?

3:40Jason Mantzoukas:Hello, people of Earth, and welcome to How Did This Get Made. We're back in the studio talking about a romantic comedy for the ages. I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Jason Manzoukas. How are you, Jason? And thoughts? I don't know what this movie is. I'm excited to talk about it. I'm like, I am flummoxed. I have all the questions in all the world. Well, I believe that. Does it take place in the 40s? I know it takes place in Canada. We'll get into that. Canadian 40s? Also joining me as always is my other co-host, June Diane Raphael. How are you, June? I'm great, Paul. How are you? Good. June, you know, you often ask us to do a good romantic comedy.

4:28Jason Mantzoukas:Did you get your wish? I don't know what I got. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. Is this a good movie? Paul, is this unspooled? Are we doing unspooled right now? Is this a good movie? Finally been asked. Yes. Guys, this is definitely going to make the list of 100 greatest films of all time. Is this your backdooring us into a podcast episode of Unschooled by telling? What a prank. Amy is hiding under the table right now. Guys, this movie. This is wild. I mean, is this an Italian exploitation film? I've heard black exploitation film. I should be offended by many things. I don't even know what. This is what I wanted to ask you.

5:11So you grew up in an Italian family.

5:12Jason Mantzoukas:Yes. Did you ever use the words pa? Well, I mean, different places. I'm not also Canadian. Or marrona mia. Hey, Mr. Macaroni is coming over with Sister Cannoli, and everyone's going to eat the festo.

5:31Everybody is talking with, like, as if every single person in the movie is, like, straight off the boat. 1930s Italian immigrants. Okay, here's my question. It takes place in Canada. Yes. Okay, okay. The movie is called Little Italy. Little Italy, New York, that the whole world knows? No. No. Little Italy, Canada.

5:53Jason Mantzoukas:I'm assuming Toronto? I mean, look, when Jane Seymour said, you need to go back home. To Canada. To Canada. I was, my jaw dropped on the floor. When the movie starts, It's like a sketch of a one-person show. Yes. It's like, oh, literally, we had a bunch of characters. There was old man, you know, Pagliano. And it's their little kids exploding firecrackers. Let's take a listen to some of this opening because it is pretty great. So gave with it, shout no lay with it, wow. If you were to grow up in the best of all places. It would be our little Italy. We had the perfect childhood. To us, Little Italy wasn't just a few city blocks.

6:41Hi, Mr. Batali. Hey, Mario. It was our entire world. We knew everyone. And everyone knew us. Can you push pause? At which point I was like, what Little Italy is this? I wrote like, this is not New York City. These are broad boulevards. These are like big streets. Okay.

7:00Jason Mantzoukas:This is not our Little Italy. Well, first of all, it's like a ripoff of, like, Goodfellas. Yes. But without any of the charm or style of it. Now, this is a question. Is there a little Italy in Canada? I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure there is. I'm sure this is Toronto's. But do they have, fine, but do they have New York accents? That's the problem. Everybody's doing a New York Italian accent. The accents in this movie are crazy. You also cast Hayden Christensen, who is not Italian at all. Oh, no. And they dye his hair in this movie Jet Black. I want to talk about the hair dye for a long time. I want to spend the majority of this podcast talking about the hair dye they used on these two characters.

7:46This part of the movie right here, where it's like they're little kids, they're causing trouble, appears to be a flashback to like the 1950s. Absolutely. It appears to be like the Flamingo Kid. Oh, yes. A movie that is from the past. And I believe these scenes take place. 1999? In 2008. Oh, yes. No. No, 1 million percent because they're just about 10-year-old kids. They're 10-year-old kids and now they're in their 20s. Okay, so these flashbacks take place when the internet was around? Oh, yes. 1 million percent because. When iPhones were around? Because everyone's still alive. They all should be on their iPhones.

8:25They are, what are they, 10, 12 years old there? Yeah, the other 10 or 11. Emma Roberts is what, 25? It's probably like the mid-2000s. The exploding vegetable guy is still the same guy. Same guy. Unchanged. Unchanged. Nobody changes. You know why? Because barely any of their lives have passed. These children, this is not the olden days. This is not the olden days.

8:51Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, this is a pet peeve. I have two pet peeves. Papa likes Mambo. What? This is the song for this. It should have been Macarena. Yes. It should have been Mambo No. 5. And so the pizza shop is like the gingham tablecloths and the checkered tablecloths and like the little flowers and the parents dancing around. I mean, it is so reminiscent of like the 1940s, New York, Little Italy that we all. Basically like that moonstruck family. And we are watching all this before we know it's in Canada. And I would say that even with the wide streets, you could have pretended that you were in New York.

9:27Jason Mantzoukas:Maybe. Why were we in Canada? Maybe. Like, I know that there was a tax credit along the way, but then someone had to say, little Italy in Canada. Yeah. Why did that become the – but then I feel like – Well, I did notice it's sponsored by Air Canada. Oh, yeah. Air Canada gets one of the biggest credit cards at the end of the movie when you're watching the bloopers. Did you watch the bloopers? No. Oh, you missed out. Oh, the bloopers are really worth the price of admission. This is an Air Canada production. Was any of this, do you think the majority of this was filmed, like, on an Air Canada? It's possible.

10:00Jason Mantzoukas:But weirdly, when Hayden Christensen's dating that girl, she is, like, from, like, airplane A different airline. Airplane airlines. I don't know, but, like, I. He, it is, everybody talks like they're a 1940s New Yorker. Yeah. Like, oh, what are you doing? Out of control. Everybody. Danny Aiello, like everybody. Danny Aiello, I think, is the only Italian person in this movie. No, Alyssa Milano's a client. There are other, like, real Italians. I would say if you were to look at a ratio chart, it would be. Yeah, it's few. I would say they're in the minority. Well, that's why. Okay. Just go back to the hair dye for a second.

10:38Oh, okay. They both, our two leads, look undead. For the majority of the movie, they look. There was a moment where I was concerned. He's done well. Hayden Christensen in particular looks like sallow. Sallow. He doesn't look like a well man.

10:58Jason Mantzoukas:No, and I've seen him after this film, so I know he's fine. I don't know what was happening with the makeup there because there's a point where I was like, is he a junkie? Because it looked like his teeth had even a gleam to it. And the hair dye, what was so strange about the choices they made to make people look Italian was they could have. I mean, he is a blonde. They could have just dyed his hair like with some darker highlights to just sort of give him a little more color on his hair. They dye his hair from like a CVS box jet black. Yeah. Oh, and then. Jet black. And then they have the audacity to put him in a scene where it's pouring rain.

11:35Jason Mantzoukas:And I'm like, oh, this hair dye is going to run. I mean, like he is going to. Well, I think it was permanent, babe. I don't think it was. You don't think they spray it on every morning? I would love it if that's I don't think they were painting it on every day That would be amazing The The I felt like Over and over I wrote Is this a sketch? Because it was so So over the top That they were aping All of the Italian stereotypes And archetypes of these movies Like, I mean, like putting firecrackers in fruits and vegetables. I mean, every. One of the classics. One of the classic bits. But like, so the grandparents, to the making of the sauce, to the everything.

12:23You gotta squeeze the tomato like a man, but don't squeeze them too hard. Mangia, mania. Everybody's doing crazy Italian accents as well as New York accents, while also all being in Canada. Oh. And nobody has, not a single person in this film has a Canadian accent. Sure. They don't have a Canadian accent. They don't talk about immigrating to this country. They don't talk about nobody. There isn't a single person in this movie who has a computer or a phone. No. Oh, you're right. You're right.

12:58Jason Mantzoukas:No one is ever on a phone. Which makes me think, honestly. She was on a computer one time when she's making her menu, Which is like when she makes her menu for her restaurant. Yes. I mean, that menu is. She's just like dragging like. Word art. Like clip art. Fucking Denny's menu. How many menus are you? It's like Clippy's going to jump out and be like, it looks like you're making a menu for a new restaurant. Can I help? I mean, I'm not trying to be elitist here, but when you go to a fancy restaurant, there are not normally pictures, glossy pictures. No, giant picture of an eggplant. Okay. Okay, the craziest thing.

13:33So I started to think after a while, because nobody has any connection to the outside world, and she keeps on referencing, like, don't you guys want to get out of here? Mom, did you ever want to leave here? Maybe there is a little Italy in Canada where they have no concept of the other little Italy in New York City.

13:51Jason Mantzoukas:Wait, wait a second. Oh, I love this. So you're saying that they are— They think they are little Italy. They are the main one. They are the main, the only little Italy. Are you guys familiar with the movie The Specialists? Oh, yes. I believe we need to do on this podcast. It's on our list. Is it Travolta that's in this movie? I thought it was Stallone. Okay, it's two men who are brought to a new city to start a new club. Oh, no. This is Travolta and that guy. Yes. To start a new club and be American and it's awesome and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And what they realize in the movie is they've been secretly taken to Russia and are training like Russian spies to act like Americans.

14:35Like this feels like.

14:37Jason Mantzoukas:It's called The Experts. I watched it all the time. Because here's the thing. There is no way in Canada. I love that movie. I love that movie. There's no way in Canada that that accent, I feel, would ever come to fruition. That accent wouldn't find its way from an Italian language married to a Canadian accent. Also, the only way it could exist is if part of the extensive voiceover was like, our dads met in Brooklyn. Yes. Blah, blah, blah. They came from Italy. And then they moved here to Canada. Although that would imply that every Italian around them, like her girlfriends, are also just picking up from that one accent.

15:24I agree. You're right. Because everybody's acting like they're straight up in hardcore Italian Brooklyn in the 1940s. I mean, and again, we're saying this movie.

15:34Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, this movie came out this year, 2018. No, Paul. Paul, I'm picking off my earphones. It's a current movie. I am leaving this studio. This movie you can't even. What are you saying? When would you have guessed this movie? 2002? This movie came out this. Actually, last month. Yeah, last month. It was in the theater for a day. And it just came on iTunes. That's the reason why we're talking about it. It literally just came on iTunes. June. I wish June's facial expression could be projected. It came out September 21st. June is upset. June is aghast. I think the only word is aghast. You look like you've just seen someone get murdered in front of you.

16:17It looks as though June has seen a ghost. I am stunned to my core. I am shaken like a rattle inside my body. I am so shocked right now. I don't know which end is up. I don't know anything. What?

16:38Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, it's September 21st, 2018. This movie was probably in production. Weeks ago? You're saying weeks ago. Weeks ago. It came out in theaters. This movie was in production a year ago. In Canada. In Canada. I mean, and so we have to talk about, I mean, consistently throughout this process. So you can't even blame like it's like systemic racism. Right. On it being from 20 years ago. Right. Because here's the entire thing. But here's the reason why I thought it was from, I don't know, at least five years ago. Okay. So a big part of the movie is Leo, Hayden Christensen's part, he wants to update his pizza restaurant.

17:24You're saying Leo?

17:25Jason Mantzoukas:Leo? Isn't it Leo? Leo. But they pronounce his Italian family calls him Leo. Okay. I don't think you've been - They call him Leo. I think you've been married to Paul for too long. It's rubbing off. Yeah, I mean, they're not calling him by... They call him Leo. Leo. The grandma constantly refers to him as Leo. Princess Leo. So he wants to update his family's restaurant and bring it to, I guess, this current year, to this September. June, can you tell him how he wants to do that? He wants to do it. And this is why I thought it was so dated, by creating a pizza app. Pizza app. An app. And a podcast.

18:03Jason Mantzoukas:Wait, is this podcast? No, maybe I just made that up. A pizza podcast I'm all in on. But the app for a small six-seat Italian restaurant seems like an incredible waste of money. What could ever be on that app? Just a delivery service? Look, we order from a place here in Los Angeles called Tomato Pie. They have an app, but they also have four locations. So that at least justifies something. Man, to spend the money developing an app. Would be crazy. Unless you're doing other content. And I guess that's why I thought you said podcast. Do you think that they were going to do like web series? Because it's like you have to be generating some other online community.

18:39Maybe some web series, some cooking classes.

18:41Jason Mantzoukas:I don't know. And he also, meanwhile, he also has like really unique, fresh ideas for new pizzas. Oh. So he is not only like just a straight up great businessman entrepreneur waiting to happen. He is like a professional level chef waiting to happen. But that's the problem I have with the timeline of this movie, Jason. But here's the thing. They react to the idea of putting a fig on a pizza. This is why the world feels so strange and so isolated, as though it's the craziest thing they have ever heard of. Yes. That they would put a fig on a pizza. That they would ever dare to put a fig on a pizza.

19:19Jason Mantzoukas:Are they not allowed out? So you're believing that they're not even allowed out of the area of Little Italy. All I know is that she keeps on asking people straight up, why haven't you left? Why don't you want to leave? And nobody has a great answer. And I believe you when I say, like, I think that perhaps people in Canada aren't allowed to experience other kinds of pizzas. Like, the idea of, like, a fancy fig-laden pizza, of course, in New York exists in, like, the late 90s. But in Canada, Little Italy probably doesn't even yet exist. This movie probably hasn't even invented it. They're just getting sushi right now.

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19:58Jason Mantzoukas:They're just getting sushi Canada. To all our Canadian listeners, fuck you. But when we talk about things being like Little Italy, Little Korea, it's usually adjacent to a giant city. Right. What is this? Little in reference to what? I'm assuming this is Toronto. I'm assuming this is Toronto's Italian neighborhood. So you're telling me that in Toronto, they don't have any pizzas that have gluten this day. According to this movie, they have only ever had cheese on a pizza until 2017. Let me just throw one thing out at you guys. This movie was also directed by the director of Mystic Pizza. No! What?

20:42Yes. Does he only make pizza-based movies? Wait a minute. I almost brought up Mystic Pizza as a reference.

20:49Jason Mantzoukas:because she's wearing the shirt that Julia Roberts wore. Are you kidding? Yes. No, I'm not kidding. No, no, no. It is directed by a guy. Can I ask you a question? Did that person make Slice? Another pizza-based movie? No, this guy has a very interesting career. Yeah, he made Opportunity Knocks with Dana Carvey, Grumpy Old Men, Richie Rich, My Favorite Martian, Miss Congeniality, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, Welcome to Mooseport, Just My Luck, My Life in Ruins, and Atlantic Gold. Like a bunch of good movies. When I saw Mystic Pizza. Yeah. I fell completely in love. Like true crush. Yeah. Young, like I have a crush on this woman in this movie who to me was so beautiful and so like exciting to watch.

21:39And, you know, and it was Annabeth Gish. Oh, Annabeth Gish. I mean, not Julia Roberts. I was like, who cares about Julia Roberts? I'm on a Gish tip too. Give me this Annabeth Gish. See, I felt that way. This Gish is going to make me gush. Listen, the scene between Gish and the babysitter's dad, the babysitting dad, is one of the best scenes. I mean, I could not get over what I was watching at that tender age.

22:11Jason Mantzoukas:Yes. Yeah. It's amazing. And she's incredible in it. And still incredible. Love you. America's Sweetheart, everybody says. Look, we love, I like an Annabeth. She could have been a pretty woman. I like an Annabeth Gish. I like a Jamie Gertz. I feel like these people know more. Jamie Gertz. Oh, don't, don't. Come on. Jamie Gertz was everything. She was my favorite. Now we're back to ladies of the 80s. Now we're back to ladies of the 80s. Did I already talk about this on the podcast, that I created a fake Jamie Gertz fan event in my Blockbuster video? What? You have talked about that. Okay. Not the first time I'm hearing of it.

22:46Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, all right. Well, there you go. Let's do an old episode and retell that story that very rarely comes out. Oh, Jamie. All right, so. I'm going to have Gish. But when we're interested. Gish and Gertz. By the way, I'm going to pitch a movie. Gish and Gertz? To both of them. Gish and Gertz. It's the new Kaguya and Lacey. You've all heard the usual travel advice, right? Pack light, bring a neck pillow, keep a portable charger handy. Yeah, yeah, those are all good. But the real travel hack, don't wait until you land to start learning the language. Instead, try Babbel for just 10 minutes a day. That's all you have to commit, 10 minutes a day.

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25:19Jason Mantzoukas:Talk to me about the fact that when we're introduced to Hayden Christensen, it seems to me that he's just a delivery boy. Yes. He doesn't seem to be the chef. He doesn't seem to be, you know. And so that's what I found to be so weird. He just seemed to be the person they would send out. His relationship to the pizza in the setup of the movie is that he loves delivering the pizza so he can fuck the women who are there to get the pizza. Sure. But yet he loves. That's his only connection. But yet he loves pizza so much, he's installed a very expensive pizza oven in his apartment. Like, I mean, he worked.

25:53Not even in his apartment, in Luigi's apartment. That's Luigi's apartment? Yes. Yes, he's living with Luigi now. I didn't realize that.

26:00Jason Mantzoukas:Can we talk about when he goes up to Luigi's roof? The rooftop garden? Yes. Did you notice something interesting about it? All the random lamps? Yes. There are so many lamps. Every time you look, and I know this is a visual thing. These are indoor lamps that have all been painted and are just on the rooftop. Listen, in Southern California, the design aesthetic is all about bringing the indoor outside and the outside inside. But in Little Italy, Canada, I feel like the weather conditions year round are not. You could look, June, we were in Canada. Remember how cold it was? Our children refused to walk outside.

26:42Jason Mantzoukas:They're like, it's too cold. When you would breathe, it would hurt your lungs. Oh, yeah. This is not a place where you have, literally, I'm counting right now, 15 indoor lamps. Indoor lamps that are outdoor. Oh, wait, is that the roof? That is the roof. Yeah, these are all indoor lamps, shaded lamps. Table lamps. Shaded lamps. Desk lamps. It's the kind of thing that, like, they're using as light for the movie. But if you think about it, like, the first time it rained, that would cause an electrical fire. Oh. Instantly. Amazing. I mean, definitely. But, I mean, I guess the thing is is that their chemistry was so good that you weren't even looking at that kind of thing.

27:19You don't even notice all the lamps.

27:21Jason Mantzoukas:This place is, like, drowning in lamps. I found their relationship to be confusing. Yes. Because she comes back to Canada and doesn't seem to have any, like, she's not upset with Canada. She doesn't race to get back. There doesn't seem to be any, like, movement, like, well, I'm not only here for a couple days. She seems to be like, I'm back in. Here I go. We also never get a satisfying, you know, like, the movie starts with this flashback where there are, like, teenagers, 12, 13, somewhere in that zone, probably. They're playing soccer. They're lighting firecrackers. They're the neighborhood best friend kids, right?

28:00Right.

28:01Jason Mantzoukas:They play soccer together. They play a team sport one-on-one, which is the dumbest thing ever because one person always has to be the goalie. And they're obsessed with who's the winner and who's the loser. And the setup is always he's just shooting on her. Yes. Her only ability to win is to block. No, listen. I was a soccer player. Oh, okay. Traveling soccer player. Yes, and an athlete in general. Okay. She, that scene where she. I know this to be true because June's dad spoke about this at our wedding. It was one of the big things that he highlighted, the proud accomplishments where you're traveling soccer and basketball.

28:39He spent the majority of his speech just going over my stats as an athlete. I do remember him passing out homemade cards, player cards.

28:50Jason Mantzoukas:But it was like a Bo Jackson card. Like on one side you were baseball and the other side you were football. So I recognize, you know, I mean, and listen, if you look at me right now in my physicality, you might not automatically think that's an athlete. Elite athlete. No, that might not come to mind. Or maybe it does. It does to me. Maybe it does. Okay, great. But if put on a court, if like push came to shove and I was having to play one-on-one, whatever, I do feel like you would see something would come back. There's a history there. Okay. When Emma Roberts is playing soccer, she looks so deeply uncomfortable and out of her league.

29:32And she has never, not a single time once, played a game of soccer.

29:37Jason Mantzoukas:And Hayden Christensen is not only in the film, is coaching the soccer team. And then basically he's like, let's go outside right now and let me kick these balls at you. Well, that's the thing is, he's drilling shots at her. And she, you're right, I noticed the same as I was also captain of my high school soccer team. Oh my gosh. Guys, I played soccer for like a couple years. She has none of the skills, none of the instinctive skills of a keeper, right? Right. And it's hard to be a keeper. It is very hard. Oh, guys, this is not a sports podcast. Save it. When they're kids, it's fine. When they're kids, it's fine.

30:17But when they're adults, he's just drilling shots straight at her. Well, she hasn't been playing for years. She's going making food. But why? First of all, I want to talk about the London. Oh, the best the best line of the whole movie. The move, the line that made me legit laugh is when Jane Seymour is walking down the line and Gordon Ramsey and everybody's food. And she hands a woman two pieces of a split loaf of bread, which the woman that has to put on either side of her head. And Jane Seymour says, what are you? And the girl goes, a moron sandwich. I was like, a moron sandwich was the funniest fucking part of this movie.

30:58Jason Mantzoukas:And by the way, that's in like minute 230. And then it goes downhill from there. But at that point, I was like, oh, we might be in for a really fun ride. But why did she leave? We never got, sorry, all of this builds up, which is to say, like, we never understand why she left to go to England in the first place. And why are we rooting for her to stay or be home? To kind of put some markers on it. She was obsessed with him. I guess he didn't know that. So I think she went away because she was like, I am too into him. I need to, like, get out of town. But they never, they only, I thought they were exes.

31:32First, I thought they were siblings. Yes, which is troubling for a romantic comedy. Well, but I was excited to see a sibling movie. Yeah, I was excited to see a. Oh, not a romantic movie. No, a sibling movie. I feel like they're underrepresented. I was excited to see a sibling movie that might have romantic undertones. which is which is no big deal a category on Pornhub but they were not siblings right they were not former lovers or exes they were just you know she just in voiceover like has an aside about like needing to get away from him or no wonder I had a crush on you or whatever yeah and then she comes back and it's as if he's the love of her life when she sees, when he does the double take in the bar, it's the greatest double take.

32:25Please, please, fans, edit together that double take just over and over and over again.

32:32Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, and they really pump it from a directing standpoint and an acting standpoint. Everyone is bringing their A game on this double take. And then, and again, just to get me back to the scene that I really want to talk about, He sees her and his first instinct is, let's get out so I can drill balls at you. And someone says, hey, it's raining out. And you think, oh, maybe it'll be a light miss. They shoot this fucking thing in disaster movie rainstorm. I mean, first of all, all I can think of, how miserable is every actor on that day? Every actor. Because not just our leads go to the soccer field.

33:10Everybody. All of the patrons of Luigi's Bar. Yes. Without an umbrella.

33:15Jason Mantzoukas:There's a couple umbrellas in the background, but most of them are completely just getting drenched. And they're so excited about it. It seems like the entire bar, the owner, the bartender, everyone leaves to go out to the soccer field. I guarantee everybody got sick on that shoot. I mean, I've never been more uncomfortable than in rain shoots. We're supposed to understand. And this is what's confusing because it all pays off in the end when I guess she lets him win the final pizza contest. Well, because she always says, admit it. You let me win? Or you never let me win. But I never understand.

33:51I believe she would always win, but he would say, I let you win. And then she would say, no, you didn't. Okay, but then in the rain soccer game, he's not letting her win. No, and he's, in fact, winning. He scores on her way more. She never gets a shot. She saves three.

34:14Jason Mantzoukas:for those of you soccer fans out there for if you uh for if you're listening to men and blazers you've just come over here this is kind of a little crossover talk i'd love to talk english premier league right now get franklin leonard back arsenal uh so i mean i mean this so this whole movie is is predicated on this unrequited super passionate love but he never has to come to it. She never has to come to it. Their, and their breakup, I literally was like, when they got upset with each other. Yeah, what's their, their end of second act fight was, I wrote, why are they mad at each other? Yeah, I couldn't figure it out.

34:56No idea. I mean, I'll tell you. Sorry, I just want to go back to the in the rain scene. Yeah. They all go out to their thing, and they're starting it up, and And she's got two like wildly stereotypical Italian like girlfriends. Oh, yeah. And she's like, you set this up. And they're like, I don't know. They're like crazy.

35:19Jason Mantzoukas:I hear those men in London really get you high. Oh, well, he's an investment. He goes, oh, he was an investment banker who had a sizable portfolio, but didn't know how to manage it. Is that how you ladies talk to him? What's so crazy about that scene is they've literally sit down for one second with her after not seeing her for five years and immediately hound her on the graphic details of her sex life. Yes. Who you fucking? How are their dick? Which are bad. Apparently, she straight in a row says three negative things about the men in England. Trashes them about going down on girls. Trashes them about their dick size.

35:59And abilities to use it. She's like... They get into it. Anyway, they go out to the soccer field. And, yeah, her friends are like, yeah. And then one of her friends, they cut to her receiving a phone call. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because she says, oh, my God, little Sal's got diarrhea. I have to go. It's like, why? Why are they explaining that the friend needs to leave?

36:27Jason Mantzoukas:Who cares? She's like, I'm not shooting this rain scene. By the way, if she doesn't want to be in the rain scene, like, she doesn't have to be. But there are some amazing things to watch. I guess there's a famous story of, who's the guy in Lawrence of Arabia, Peter O'Toole, who said that whenever he would be in a big group scene, he would try to find a way to hide himself so he didn't have to be with the big group so he could do less coverage. And in this movie, when you watch it, Danny Aiello is always like, doop, doop, doop, doop, doop. He has one shot that's isolated or they got him in this thing, but especially at the airport at the end.

36:59Jason Mantzoukas:He is so far away from that group, not a part of it. I watched stuff like that. I watched the extras. There's a guy holding a sign at an airport. I couldn't get over him. Just watching the one pass of just extra work on this movie is amazing. Oh, my God. When Danny Aiello says, sausage and peppers, that was my nickname. Ew. What do you mean? Like, Mr. Sausage, I get? Whatever, but sausage and peppers. What are the peppers? Sausage is the penis. The peppers are the balls. But why are the peppers the balls? I wouldn't want to be called sausage or peppers. I usually say that. Careful with the peppers.

37:39Jason Mantzoukas:Do we think that they... Are we to believe... Turn the sausage. Don't burn those peps. Don't burn those peppers. Lick the peps. Bite the sausage. Careful with those peppers. Those peppers are very sensitive. The skin and the peppers. That's a spicy pepper, huh? What are these seeds doing in my peppers? I gotta put on my junk trunks to protect my sausage and peppers. Junk trunks was crazy. Is that a phrase that has ever been uttered before? I guess probably. It's probably Canadian slang. Oh, and are we to believe that in Canada people also hate all Indian people? Yes, that was... That was the other thing where I was like, this movie is new.

38:33This is a recent movie. Yep. For it to have. Days old. Days old. 1980s era stereotypes is crazy. I mean, they call one of the characters Slumdog. He goes, Jai Ho, Slumdog. What? And then. Coming in. So the great. Okay. I read my favorite character in the movie was Jesse. Not Jesse. The Indian girl from The Other, from Jesse's. I don't know who she was, but I thought she was one of the stars of the film. Yes. I would watch a whole movie about her. So one thing we've not even broached is the plot of the movie, which is that Hayden Christensen and Emma Roberts' fathers were, the reason they're best friends is because they were all family.

39:17Their fathers were best friends and had their own pizza place. And so blah, blah, blah. It was family. The whole family under one roof, blah, blah, blah. At the end of the cold open, the fathers get into a fight and separate. And so now they have. After winning the best pizza competition.

39:31Jason Mantzoukas:And so now they have side by side. Yes. Pizza competition and bikini contest. No big deal. Put them together. A little spice and a little nice pizza. Male and female bikinis. Although the men's. I appreciated the men being up there. The men's bikinis are more bike shorts, but that's fine. And then. So then they have side by side competing pizza restaurants. And they are in a feud, okay? It's a very, you know, you could simplify and say it's a real Romeo and Juliet situation. Sure, in a pizza place. But each pizza place has its own Indian work, like employee. They split down the middle. Because I would say that one of the things that was so confusing to me was that first scene, there are eight people working in one small pizzeria.

40:16Jason Mantzoukas:And I was like, there's too many people here. And no client, no customers. I feel like all you need in a pizza place of that size, that square footage, is one person making the pizza. Yep. A single person. One person. Maybe not even waitressing. This sounds like a business plan right now. It seemed to be like a pickup counter situation. Get Marcus Limonis on the phone right now. Marcus, call us. And then one person, really two people. One person at the cash register and one person making the pizza. And if Marcus Limonis was coming in to say this, he would say, he would say, you need to mend this feud and get back together because this was never better than when you did it together.

40:54Because he would say process product. That's what we're doing. That's what we got. That's what, guys, I'm not even kidding. Please, if you're out there and you know Marcus Limonis. He's tweeted at us. That's fine that he's tweeted at us, but we need him on the show. Oh, we need him on this show. He wants to come on the show. He's in Chicago, right? But he's in L.A. a lot. Oh, okay. Because I was going to say, next time we go to Chicago, I want Marcus Limonis on this show.

41:18Jason Mantzoukas:We should find a movie, like a big business, where someone's stuck. Like the worst, like a bad version of Baby Boom. Yes. And then be like, what did she do wrong with the baby boom? Also, Marcus, if you agree to come on this show, you can be 100 % in control. In charge. You play the sound clips. You tell Devin when to hit the theme song. This is a dream come true for me. You are the host. You are the host. Marcus, you run the show. You do the ad reads. This movie, but even between the two Indian workers. All the ad reads are for Marcus Limonis' businesses. He's like, Carmack. Sweet Peets. Sweet Peets.

42:01The simple Greek. Dad bags.

42:09Oh, come on, Marcus. Oh, my goodness. Camping world.

42:17Jason Mantzoukas:We love Marcus Limonis. We love you, Marcus Limonis. Just so you know, there is an episode where we talk about Marcus Limonis. We cut out, I would argue, 20 minutes of that conversation. We cut it out? We got to put it up as an extra. I mean, we cut about 20 minutes. You were not there that night, June, but we went deep into Marcus. I didn't even know you watched the show, Jason. Of course I watched the show. Do you watch the show just because he's Greek? Of course, I, well, contractually, I have to watch all shows of Greeks. That is part of the deal. And also because, you know, that's all my family wants to talk about is any and all Greek shows.

42:52Jason Mantzoukas:Would you make a version of this movie that's like a Greek-centric version of this movie? It's called My Big Fat Greek Wedding. And Andrea Martin in both. Andrea Martin is in both. Andrea Martin, I was going to mention that at one point, but Andrea Martin is the grandmother, has now played stereotypical ethnic grandmothers of Greek and Italian descent. She's Armenian and she's also from Maine. Isn't that amazing? Yeah, and doing amazing work. Listen, so is Alyssa Milano. I thought Alyssa Milano was a breath of fresh air. She was great. I appreciated her a lot. I really, really did. I actually liked the two brothers too, Salvatore and Vincenzo.

43:28Jason Mantzoukas:I thought, I actually don't think that there were any, like, I don't know. I liked all the color around this movie. I do believe I like the color around this movie. I think that there are some issues with some things. The main characters? Yeah, the main characters. So that's my favorite thing about watching bloopers in movies because you can tell the relationship between the actors by watching that gag reel at the end. There's not a single shot of Hayden Christensen and Emma Roberts enjoying themselves, having a laugh, someone messing up a line, the other one sort of smiling. There was not a single, single piece of footage that they could use to show like, oh, these two people could stand being in a room together.

44:05Jason Mantzoukas:Their meet cute or not their meet cute, but they're like falling in love montage is my favorite thing where they clearly got the rights to shoot at like a festival, like a like, you know, like a San Gennaro feast or something like that. And all they do is try on different Italian stereotypes shirts. It's like like, what are you looking at? My flags. And there's like little Italian flags over both breasts. And it's like, I'm the real Italian stallion. And it's like, my macaroni is always al dente. You know, it's just like real. And they're just like, oh, my gosh, these are great. Like, they love those shirts.

44:43Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, yeah. And I felt like they almost love those shirts more than they love each other. For sure. For sure. Well, he's like, get up early in the morning. I'm picking you up. And then he picks her up at like dawn to bring her to a street festival. A street festival? So they can buy T-shirts. And then they go and blow up fruit, vegetables rather, again at the old man's. And leave him a gift basket. But then they leave him a gift basket. But then. It's like, what is this? I don't know. They see water and unlike gremlins, they drive right towards it to get wet again on that bike. To get wet. And then they go at that.

45:16Just so they can go home and take their clothes off, I assume. Like I assume in Canada, maybe this is Canadian actually. In Canada, people can only get naked if their clothes have been soaked through. There's no other reason to. It's more pure. Which maybe makes sense as to why on a non-summer day when they said it was cold out, the fire hydrant was out and going. If people in Canada have to get in the bath with their clothes on, then take them off to get in the shower. There's going to be such a Reddit thread of Canadian fans of the show.

45:49Jason Mantzoukas:We're just drawing conclusions based on what we saw about your movie. Listen, I'm trying to understand with an open heart and an open mind. To understand your culture. They love Starbucks. We know that. That was crazy, too. I couldn't even follow that Starbucks run. I mean, the Starbucks thing, that they're addicted to caramel lattes? Yes. Andrea Martin drinks a number of lattes that, I'm not even kidding, would hospitalize her. Yeah, there were 10. She's too old for that much caffeine. She had 10 on that table. That was unsettling. And they react to Starbucks as if, again, to June's point, it was just invented.

46:24Jason Mantzoukas:Like, what is this new coffee place in town? Oh, two more. Everybody's got, oh, my God, two more. Everybody sounds like it's Mario Brothers. I feel like the director sent everybody Mario Brothers as like an accent. Research. As like a cornerstone for their accent. Speaking of Mario Brothers, let's talk about Luigi. Sure. The Asian man who has a very thick Italian accent. And the entire time I'm like, okay, are they not going to even, you know, touch this, broach this? And then they do. And here you go. Those sound like excuses of a man who's not being honest with himself. I can't follow that. I'm not being honest with myself.

47:07Can you pause for a second? Luigi, again, is not Italian. And even the Italians in this movie speak with so much incidental actual Italian in their dialogue. They are peppering. Oh, you work the peppers. They are peppering all of their sentences with real Italian words, which doesn't make any sense. It just doesn't make it. I grew up in a family where people spoke Greek, and they never would just insert Greek words.

47:40Jason Mantzoukas:Nope, I'm the same way. But listen to what's going on here on the accent, the story. So we have this man, an Asian man, who has a very thick Italian accent, which you just heard a little bit of. and listen to this. Look, I'm not trying to be mean or nothing, all right? But have you looked at yourself in the mirror? Luigi, your real name is Li Xiaoping. You're Chinese, bro. When are you going to be honest with yourself that you're not even Italian?

48:10There's that accordion. You know, when I told my dad I was gay, he threw me out of the house. Will you still be my friend? Luigi. Come on. You think I wouldn't be your friend just because, what, you like guys? So what? No. Because I'm not Italian. Okay.

48:36Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, You're Chinese, bro! This reveal that Luigi is gay plays very late in the movie. Luigi is a side character that doesn't really even deserve this treatment. Very fun. Liked him in the movie a lot, but when he reveals he's gay, my jaw dropped. I was like, really? Because I was like, I was like, where is this? What is going on? I love that this is a double reveal. Because I up until this point assumed he was just an Italian man. You thought this was like Gene Simmons in that movie with, uh... I guess this guy's just Italian. What's up, sports fans? I'm Rachel Demita, here to tell you about my show courtside club.

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50:53Jason Mantzoukas:All right, so it is to us. It wasn't like, it wasn't to Jane Seymour. I thought that maybe they may have told her the whole story when she showed up at the wedding. I also thought that Jane Seymour was at their new restaurant, did not realize it was a wedding, and did not realize that. It was a wedding? Oh, yeah, it was the wedding. Their wedding? Yeah, because they're dancing. No, not their wedding. It was their grandparents' wedding. Oh, okay. Wait, at Pizza Organica? Yes. Pizza Organica. At Pizza Organica at the end of the movie when Jane Seymour is there, that's a wedding? Yes. Oh, I didn't catch that.

51:20Jason Mantzoukas:You thought it was like the opening of a restaurant. That's what I assumed. And she's just, Jane Seymour is now a part of this wedding. Like she's crashed the wedding. So let me get this straight. You probably thought it was the opening of the restaurant because there's five million signs that say Organica. Pizza Organica. Because finally they are bringing organic ingredients to pizza. But if you are having a wedding, hosting a wedding for your grandparents to get married, do you need that much signage? Literally on every table there's a giant sign. Also, like, how long? They were still open for business.

51:50They were still open for delivery. Oh, so they had paying cut. Delivery, yeah. Delivery takeout. How long has it taken to get Pizza Organica up and running, right? So I think both dads must have sold their shops. Sure. And they took over that corner to make a bigger restaurant. I think they just knocked out the middle wall. Okay. Okay, yeah. But they handed their business over. They redid it. And then how long? I think they're up and running because the kitchens are still there. I mean, again, I'd love to talk to Marcus about this. But the kitchens are still there. They knock out a wall.

52:18Jason Mantzoukas:But it looks like they accept a new bar, a real nice new bar. That's right. I'm saying six months. Six months? But then. There's no employee training. So it takes six months to, like, build it out and get it ready and do all the work to get it. They've got a pizza organic neon sign outside. You're telling me. People in the community already know there's pizza there. Jane Seymour has arrived to beg Emma Roberts to come back and work for her because, I don't know what. But you're saying she's allowed six months to pass? Well, but she did say that the other chef she put in charge made - She did hire someone else.

52:54Jason Mantzoukas:She hired the other guy, and then he gave the critic a diarrhea. Oh, so much diarrhea in this movie. So much diarrhea in this movie. Which, by the way, I don't mind. But by the way, and I appreciate that about you, you really look kindly. You throw a kind out of the diarrhea. Here's what I want in a movie. I want a believable love story. I want colorful side characters. And then I want hot, wet dumps. Now, June, can I ask you a question? Because maybe I'm misremembering this. But at the end of the movie, right before the credits hit, I thought they were at Pizza Organica. They are having a wedding.

53:28Jason Mantzoukas:Jane Seymour is there. There's a dance. There's a lot going on. And then a man fully in Indian garb gets up and says, hey, everybody, get the fuck out of here. So that's a part of the gag reel. Yeah. Oh, that was the first clip from the gag reel. Oh, that's from the Indian restaurant. Wait, when did they go? That was from that like sensual curry restaurant or whatever the fuck that was. Remember when we talk about the reefer. Can I? Oh, we need to talk about the reefer. We need to talk about the police woman who like felt up. Everybody, every woman in this movie acts like Hayden Christensen is the single greatest looking man in history.

54:06And that's what's troubling. I do think that the hair and makeup department on this movie should be taken out into a field and shot.

54:15Jason Mantzoukas:A Canadian field? Yes, a giant Canadian field. A giant Canadian field. I do think halfway through the movie they started to spray tan him. Because they were looking at the dailies and were like, oh, something is very, very wrong here. but I have to leave June does have to leave June any final thoughts before you go no I mean I couldn't make heads or tails of it no listen we stopped the movie a number of times to just do things and we had a couple of errands to run so it was a real stop start experience this movie felt like five hours long it's an hour and 40 minutes and it just is long I stopped it at one point to be like well I must be near the end and I was 22 minutes that's when we stopped at two that 22 minute mark is those 22 minutes are hours long.

55:00Jason Mantzoukas:And then from 22 to 20, it feels so long because we stopped it twice. Still 20 minutes? Yep. Thank you, June. There are so many things, June, that I want to know your opinion on. Do you think the grandparents were having sex in the church up until they got caught? Is that like where they go to fuck? No, I feel like they were, yeah, they were very pure. Okay. How crazy, just because I want very quick June reactions off of these things. At the pizza contest, when they finish the contest, Emma Roberts pulls, like, he wins. She lets him win. She walks off stage. Her suitcase is there. There's a cab waiting.

55:41A yellow cab. A yellow cab waiting. When she gets to the airport, she's had a full wardrobe change. She's now in, like, a pink flouncy dress. Like, what's... Anyway, sorry. And what kind of traveling outfit was that? Yes. I may have a lot to say about her costumes, but I don't know. I have to save it for a mini.

56:00Jason Mantzoukas:June's got to run. She's a professional businesswoman. See you later, June. Goodbye, June. All this talk, though, makes me go like, there is no real reason, though, that you needed to say it was Canada. Right? I mean, there's nothing in this movie that's specifically Canadian. Like, they could have faked it for New York. I think they contractually had to for some reason. I guess Air Canada did give them a lot of money. Wait a minute. is this one of those Canadian is Hayden Christian Canadian? Christensen? It might be one of those like did the Canadian film board make this movie? Okay so like a Gooby-esque kind of thing.

56:36Like their money so they had to He is a Canadian actor and producer.

56:40Jason Mantzoukas:This is adding up. Yes alright alright. And then I think the writer might also be Oh wow this is a real Now we're getting into it. By the way I'm So, yeah, they really have to make a big deal out of it. I bet that's why it's so specifically Canadian. Oh, and the writer is also Canadian. I see. Vinay Vermani. Okay, so this is, okay. All right. So, I think they had to. I think that was, I bet that is part of it. Financed by the Canadian government. Yes, basically, because they have, the Canadian government has a, like a film board that basically finances movies to be shot in Canada that have a certain amount of Canadian performers in them, all the rest.

57:23We can, I'm sure, talk to our, I'm sure a lot of Canadian people are going to weigh in on all of this on the message board.

57:28Jason Mantzoukas:We need to get into it deeply. There was one, or I'd say two really funny performances. I love the mortuary guy. Sure. He was very funny. Comes in straight up grabbing his dick. And sniffing a heel. Yep. Great. Ooh, look at that big toe. Another performance I really liked was the female police officer who's kind of accosting Hayden Christensen.

58:14pockets that might be sharp or hard or pokey in any way. But that was from a different movie. That was from a different movie. Because she wasn't high. No, she wasn't high. She hadn't eaten the pizza. Oh, so at one point the prank war during the prank war between the now the former best friend's competitive pizza owner dads one of the dads replaces the other one.

58:39Jason Mantzoukas:Oregano. The other one's oregano with weed. And by the way, when you see the cut to that weed That's a lot of weed. That's like thousands of dollars worth of weed. And so that guy had to go buy that on the legal market and then grind. Like the amount of time you're grinding it. Probably, you know, he probably mixed it in with oregano just so it wasn't totally. Okay. Like I bet it's a subtle. But then they feed weed to all of their patrons. But the patrons are then acting as if the weed is like ecstasy or peyote. I mean, I was like, oh, is it mushrooms? They put magic. Because, look, Jason, I've never smoked weed.

59:14Jason Mantzoukas:I know you have never smoked weed. I don't believe in it. And so the idea that you would see these people reacting, I would say this is the most truthful performance of weed. Like an old woman is atop one of the tables dancing erotically. Like weed doesn't make you like horny and want to dance on tables. I don't think, again, I've never tried it. And I've never tried it either. I just watch movies to let me see how people would react to it. But there's so many issues with that. But also, they're packed. We need Seth Rogen on this podcast. My goodness gracious. It was like that was itself. But I didn't mind.

59:52See, that was the stuff that I was like, I don't mind prank wars between. I love it. Like if the story had been more about the rival pizza. And I liked stuff like I liked that the wives of the warring best friends were still friends and would have secret. but they had like glasses of red wine in the planters. But it was a poured red wine. Not like they don't keep a bottle in there. No, they have pre-poured glasses of red wine hidden outside in planters. And they put it back in. Then they put it back in as if like, well, I'll come back later and have this plant wine.

1:00:27Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, did you remember that scene where Luigi goes, he calls him bad Rocky or some of that? Or no, no, he says like, now you have to be Rocky. Yes. But they referenced it earlier too because they play a Rocky theme, but they clearly couldn't afford the Rocky. Oh, I didn't notice that. Oh, it's an amazing theme here. Take a listen. Andiamo to the field! Nicky versus Leo. The rematch is going to get messy, people. Yay, it's enough. Okay. Nicky blocks a shot. Leo does a shot. Hey! Leo scores. Nicky does a shot. Hey! It's just like one beat off. It's just off. There is so many weird, all of the, how about this?

1:01:16How about when the flight attendant scene happens, Emma Roberts shows up at Hayden Christensen's house to play soccer, right? Ding dong, she rings the bell. Cab pulls up, flight attendant comes out, ding dong, she rings the same bell. Uh-oh, two girls here to see the same guy. Great. The guy comes down. Hayden Christensen's like oh Lisa oh my god hey good to see you to the flight attendant and he's like all right go on inside yeah and then so he so the blonde goes upstairs into his apartment for

1:01:47Jason Mantzoukas:like future bonzo yeah get ready get ready for me and now Nikki is like Emma Roberts rather is like okay so I guess I'll see you later and he's like no um how about dinner tomorrow night and my place right here where I'm gonna fuck this girl tonight you come tomorrow night and I'll make you food I'll make you food tomorrow night tonight not good because you just saw that girl go up there i'm gonna fuck that girl he's a ladies man tomorrow oh i gotta remember to wash my sheets but okay anyway tomorrow you come over and she's like yeah okay i'll come over i was like what the fuck is going on this is i mean she shouldn't be with him she should go i was rooting for her to go back to london and there's a point yes go back to london go back to london be a chef you are killing it over there.

1:02:34Jason Mantzoukas:And there's a moment where she says, like, you're never going to leave. She never asks him to leave. He never says he can't leave. If Marcus Limonis was giving these people advice, he would say to her, go to London. Go to London, and if you want to come back later, having learned everything you need to learn, come back later. He could say to her, look, the pizza market in Canada is not strong enough for you to give up your career from a very high-priced Culinary Institute. I'm Marcus Limonis, and I'm pulling up to what the hell is this? Wait, where am I? Did I pass through a portal back in time?

1:03:12Am I in Italy? No, Marcus, you're in Little Italy. I would love... If they stopped him from driving his new car, they're like, no, no, we have to give you a car from the 70s to drive into Little Italy.

1:03:22Jason Mantzoukas:I would love that they would have made a full crossover promotion, like the profit goes to Little Italy. And it's all like, they have to all be their characters. There's no one psyched. It's like the Star Wars holiday special, but with Marcus LaMona. And he's like, what happened? You guys, wait a minute. So you're telling me the guy next door used to be your best friend? So I went across the street and I talked to Vinny. Now, what they don't realize is he's got the sauce, but he's got the crust. And together, they make a great pizza. Now, they can't let their personal problems get in the way of what I'm not kidding is the best pizza I've ever tasted.

1:03:57Jason Mantzoukas:Now, I'm going to go to my lighting guy. You remember him from season one. He's going to put new light fixtures in, make displays look really shining. Remember when I met with those people that make plastic units for displaying things? What a great way to sell merch. Now, you know when we reconfigured those small RVs to be portable homes? We're going to make that into a food truck. How about Little Italy Tiny Homes? How about Tiny Homes Italy? By the way, instead of an app, they should have done a food truck. Yes. Like, why not? I mean, obviously do a food truck. The movie came out last year. Last year.

1:04:31Jason Mantzoukas:Jason, do you want to know what the tagline for this movie was? Three generations, two families, one forbidden love. Ooh. But it's wrong. It's not. Because it's three generations, two families, two forbidden loves. Correct. I don't want to give short shrift to Danny Aiello and Andrea Martin, who actually I really enjoyed in this movie. Oh, I thought their stuff was the most, had the most actual chemistry. Yeah. Like they had, their scenes together were both funny and like very sweetly romantic in a way that the movie, this is a romantic comedy, but the two leads don't have any chemistry or any palpable kind of energy between them.

1:05:15Jason Mantzoukas:No, I mean, look, I just, to use the terms of the film, I felt that their chemistry was Vente. Yeah. And I felt like Hayden Christensen and Emma Roberts was tall. Oh, interesting. Grande? Grande, yeah. Or Trente? Or, I don't know, like whatever the... Oh, no, no, I'm sorry, you're going the opposite way. I'm sorry, I thought you were... No, Vente and tall, that's what I kind of see. I mean, did... And my other question is, did Starbucks pay to get in on this? They had to have. They can't have that much Starbucks. Exterior Starbucks, interior Starbucks, Starbucks cups, so many Starbucks scenes.

1:05:52And it's only they only discover so interesting. They only discover Starbucks when they are discovered flirting in the confessional. And the priest kicks them out. And then they discover Starbucks.

1:06:05Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, this is like, you know, when George Lucas and Steven Spielberg got together to make Raiders, you know, it's like, oh, these two great guys together. And that's how I kind of feel about this movie. Air Canada and Starbucks coming together to make a move. To make great content. Two of our greatest content providers. Well, Jason, obviously we had some strong opinions about this movie. There are people out there with another opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions.

1:06:51I need a second opinion.

1:06:56Jason Mantzoukas:That is John Lajoie with his second opinion theme, which I love so much. So good. Jason, these are five-star reviews called from Amazon. As of today, which is Halloween, there are only 42 reviews total for the film. 55 % five stars. And so I don't have many to read, but I have these two. This is from Sean Amidon. and it was written just a couple of days ago. My wife really enjoyed this movie. I, however, thought it was okay. But since my wife is always right, I give it a 10 out of 10. Five stars. Great. So that was the first one. This one was written by Marilyn Campbell. As an actual culinary arts grad, I truly appreciated the aspects that almost every food-related show completely ignores.

1:07:47Jason Mantzoukas:And while some of it comes off as a joke, it makes it way more realistic and delicious yum ew first of all there isn't that much food talk in this movie very little in fact i mean basically she just says that pears cut down the acidity of cheese figs the figs yeah and and i guess smushing the tomato like um but don't do it like a man i mean not much yeah very little she continues to go the competitions the family feuds the families loving each other through the feuds, the multi-generational connections, because that is family. I love all of the fantastic quotes. Are there fantastic quotes in this movie?

1:08:29Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, I would love to know what those are. And I want to remember them all. I can barely remember a line from this film. I'm just so glad I decided to rent this. A new favorite. Great job. All around five stars. That's all I got. That's all I got. That's tough stuff. It is. And so, like I said, this movie came out September 21st. It's 102 minutes. It's rated R. For what? No, I mean cursing? I guess cursing, but there really isn't even much cursing. Just that kind of awkward ass shot of that one guy. Of Luigi. You see Luigi's butt, but like Emma Roberts is in a bra at one point, but that's. But a very tasteful.

1:09:10Like totally, not very, and it's not very sexually, nothing very sexually. There's just some kissing.

1:09:17Jason Mantzoukas:Do you think it's because they squeeze those tomatoes so hard? Yeah, probably. Opening weekend was - Is it a Canadian R or an American R? Canadian R is when they stay out after 6 o 'clock. Oh, well, this movie has them out at night. They're out at dark, you know, so this is an R-rated movie. We don't want kids to see this. We actually should have had Seth on this episode. He could have answered a lot of our questions about Canada. Guys, Canada, we'd love to come and do live shows in your country so we can understand what the fuck you guys are up to. We really needed an audience. How did this get made in Little Italy, Canada?

1:09:53Set it up, dummies. Oh, my God.

1:09:56Jason Mantzoukas:So the budget, the opening weekend it made about— I would redo this movie in Little Italy, Canada. I'm typing it in right now. Little Italy, Canada. I think it's probably Toronto. All right, Little Italy, Canada. I mean, I bet a bunch of cities have Little Italys. Right. Well, Toronto, yeah. Sometimes referred to as College Street West. It's a district in Toronto that's known for its Italian-Canadian restaurants and businesses. I'm looking at it. You know, they got a little movie theater there. By the way, it does not look like the place where they shot this thing here. And there's a statue of Johnny Lombardi on the street who launched Canada's first multicultural radio station from Little Italy.

1:10:38Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, nice. And, oh, look at this. Movies filmed nearby. Nearby. Yeah. Police Academy. Scott Pilgrim versus the World. The Long Kiss Goodnight. The TV series Beauty and the Beast. And Little Italy? Near Canadian Little Italy. But not this movie, Little Italy. No. It's not listed. No, no. Interesting. Italians arrived in Toronto in large numbers during the 20th century, and they settled in the area known as the Ward. By the 1920s, most Italians had moved west, and the city emerged as Little Italy. Greece, very similar. Lots of Greeks in Toronto, lots of Greeks immigrated to Toronto. It's like one of the largest Greek cities in the world is Toronto.

1:11:25Really? Oh, I did not know that.

1:11:27Jason Mantzoukas:And one of the big tourist attractions there is the Italian Walk of Fame, which has noteworthy Italian Canadians. Interesting. which I'm now just going to go there and just find out who those are. And I don't see any ones that you would immediately rate. That's a boy. Okay. So the movie made$200 ,000 on the opening weekend. No one knows what the budget is. It's already up to about a million, but not yet at a million. The movie came in number 241 of all the movies released in the last 365 days. The top three of this year, Black Panther, Avengers, Infinity War, Star Wars, The Last Jedi. It was beaten by the Meg and it beat nothing.

1:12:14Jason Mantzoukas:So there you go, people. This is Little Italy. Jason, any final thoughts? This is some pretty wild stuff. I would watch it just because of how much of a parody of one of these movies it seems like. Yeah. You know, it's like the way the movie starts especially, I wouldn't watch this movie, but I would maybe watch the first half hour just to see how they're aping all of those old school like, you know, that's back when you can ride your bikes all around town. This is our little Italy. I do think it's a movie that's good to ride fast forward because when you see something interesting, if you stop it, it probably is worth it.

1:12:53Jason Mantzoukas:Something interesting might be happening. But it's not worth it to fully watch. Even an hour and 40 minutes? No, it's rough. It's rough. But there is some very fun, funny stuff. Some good performances by a lot of the supporting people. Enjoy the movie, stay for the blooper reel, which I'm always a fan of. I can't believe the guy that did Mystic Pizza made this movie. Yeah. I mean, it's a real. I mean, clearly that was the connection that they wanted. I mean, Emma Roberts, too. It's like, this is the new Mystic Pizza. This is the new. I mean, is it the new Mystic Pizza? I don't know. If it is, who's Annabeth Gish?

1:13:24Right. I mean, the girl with the diarrhea kid, I think.

1:13:30Jason Mantzoukas:All right, people. Jason, your movie right now is out. Yes, The Long Dumb Road. It is out now in Los Angeles, in New York, in Austin, I believe. It's also available on VOD. And it is on VOD. Go to iTunes right now. It's called The Long Dumb Road. It is a movie that I am, like, me and Tony Revallori are the stars of this movie. From Spider-Man, Homecoming, and Grand Budapest Hotel. Exactly. If you like me, if you think I'm funny on this show, on other shows, please go and rent or buy this movie. It would mean so much to me. That would be amazing. I need people to see this movie. And also, it's genuinely very funny.

1:14:09Jason Mantzoukas:It's a great movie directed by Hannah Fidel. Check it out. And that is all for this week. I want to give a big shout out and thank you to Averill Halley for pulling all these amazing clips. Nick Kiley for doing all this research. Cody for doing all the producing side. Kelly Alto and Devin in the booth. Bye-bye. Thank you so much for listening to Little Italy. Reminder that Elle is on Prime right now. That's right. June Diane Rayfield stars as Elle Woods' mom, Eva, and the hit Amazon comedy, Elle. Check it out if you've not watched it yet. It is a great family show. It is a great just regular person show.

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Mamma Mia! We're taking a Last Looks vacation, but don't worry, Paul still announces next week's new movie before treating you all to a re-release of our classic episode on the 2018 rom-com Little Italy starring Emma Roberts and Hayden Christensen. Paul, June, and Jason discuss the stereotypical New York Italian accents spoken in Canada, all the jet black hair dye, the soccer game in the rain, Luigi's big character reveal, and so much more. (Ep. #206 Originally Released 01/31/2019)

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