Miami Connection LIVE! w/ Chris Geere (HDTGM Matinee)

25:40Rough year. Rough year! And it sounds just like wow that if you're that dad and you've left your if you've left your wife and kids and then she dies right away and then you die right away it's like wow I really hope it was worth it. Really hope it was worth it. Yeah. For those final years to be just full of turmoil. anyway. So we got our band ninjas, we got our gym ninja. No, they're not ninjas. They're like the bikers. The hairy guys team? Yeah, they're bikers. They're not ninjas. They're like thugs, I feel like. They're like just tough guys, right? And then there's a group of also biker ninjas who are the higher guys.

26:30That's the guy who lives in Miami. They're the cocaine guys. They're the cocaine guys. So that's the other ninja. And then there's another set of bad guys, which is another band that we've never seen play. We're in a band? I was confused by that. I don't understand this. Were they actually a band? The guy with the gun, right? It's my favorite scene in the whole movie. We don't have it as a clip where two guys stand next to each other and are screaming at each other. From the moment one, you can see the spit flying out of their mouth. And so one of that guys, that guy's in a band. He's like, how can you not bust me in a band?

27:08I don't like your band anymore. Well, alright, well, now. Like, that's the whole scene. And so that guy, the guy who was in the band, goes to Jim and is like, go. No, Jeff. Jeff, hairy guy. Goes to hairy guy and is like, kill that band. But Jeff was already doing it because. And if you, Giant Michael Phelps is still called Blasting his sister. And then if you do that, we'll give you all of our earnings. All of our earnings. Not a percentage. Not a percentage. All of it. So they're now working at Let's Not Be Around the Bush in a bar for free. For free. Okay. But I'm sorry. So wait, but why does Jeff want to kill Michael Phelps?

28:00Because he's blasting his sister. But that's the only... So God, what It did happen between the two of them. Because Harry Guy was like, I don't want you dating this second-rate musician. He's like, yeah, I fucking do drug deals on the side. I don't want you associating with musicians. He's looking out for his sister. He's like, you focus on school, do your classes, don't get distracted by this nonsense and this guy. Never see him again. There's school, by the way, which came in fourth place. And it's like, hey, good news, everybody, we came in fourth place. And then the computer teacher walks around, and he was like, hey, good job, good job.

28:35Nice circle. Nice circle. Nice circle. And that's too jamed. I often didn't like how he was weirdly touching the women's shoulders as he walked by. That whole scene made me feel nauseous. Oh, so here's my theory on why I think they want to kill the band. Or why people get... Because the band is revealing plot points of the cartel. Because they... Don't they sing the song? It's like... Through song? Bikers by day, ninjas by night, steal all your cocaine. Wasn't that... Oh no, they found us out. They're penning the lyrics. So you think they're writing social issue documentary songs that are exposing the crime syndicate?

29:18I do. I mean, their songs were pretty much exposing the underbelly of Miami. Are we going to talk about the beach scene? What's that? Are we going to talk about the beach scene? The beach sequence? How many times do people walk up to other people and just walk up to strangers and say, can I get a kiss? Also, I have a quick question. Can you do that? Do you think there were any release forms involved when the camera just went around the beach? Filming anyone. No one said anything. I think this falls under YK Kim can do anything in Orlando. down yeah you got but here's what i found most disturbing about that montage it starts off you know the band is driving on the beach and they're like gawking at girls like you know it's like girls bikinis girls bikinis girls in bikinis old person on a scooter child the images become more and when you just when you juxtapose the obviously meant to be sexualized kind of buns and boobs on the beach with just shots of children.

30:28You're like, what is going on? I couldn't believe also that they set up our good guys this way. Yeah. Oh, just predators. Walks up to a girl and is like, hey, can I get a kiss? He is pushed to the ground where he lands in another girl's cleavage, then rolls around on a bunch of girls who appear to just have a tickle fight with him. So upsetting. And that is his punishment for being a creep. The most upsetting shot, though, was when I think one of the girls is, a girl in a bikini is, like, biking or roller skating past, I think one of our guys, and he's sitting down with, like, a water gun. I don't remember this.

31:11Does anybody else remember this? Like a Uzi water gun. Yes, and he sprays water at her. This is the shot where they, yeah, that was it. We just saw it. Yeah. I don't think that's one of our guys, though. Child. Child. By the way, Paul, can you rewind a little bit? Like, here we are. Here we are. Yeah, okay. Here we are. Summer, summer, having a crazy time. We're just friends. Just friends. Buns and brews down at the beach. This guy's wearing a hat. Just oats. Buns and friends. Buns. Buns and friends, plus a creep driving down the boardwalk. Kids alone. Kids alone at the beach. These kids are lost.

31:54Kids are selling their bodies. What's wrong? Just guys hanging out, attacking women sexually. Just Oates wants a kiss, pushed into ladies' boobs. This movie's amazing. The other movie about the kids living under the pier, though? That's a sad movie. By the way, don't put a shot after those shots of grown women in bikinis. how dare you cut to a shot of a little girl also in a bikini showering. That's really disturbing. It took me by saying it was like... None of those children have parents. It's an orphan beach. It's an orphan beach. Oh, that's true. This might just be orphan beach. You're right.

32:41That's smart. It's a theme. When this guy falls on the girls, he exists on those girls for such a long time yeah he knew exactly what he was doing even with giant Michael Phelps tries to pull him off he is like flailing around as if he's still being attacked well because he's pretending that he is also when you get to the credits later on and they're showing each character individually that's the bit that they show for that character, him just being slapped by women. That was his only... Now, as disturbing as everything we just described was, none of it comes close to how the beach scene ends.

33:27Which is our two lovers in this film in a beach chair in the ocean. So good. Slow kissing as if they've never kissed before. No, not as if they've never kissed each other as if they've never had a kiss. Yeah. It's just a quick peck though, isn't it? Because it's like... Ugh. We don't even need sound for it. We just see... There we go. Oh my god. Just a slow... Ugh. Ugh. It's like short... I'm gonna turn around. These weird short kisses. There's like no... What are they doing? There's no opening of the mouth. They never open the mouth and get into any kind of rhythm. It's just like... No, it's like these hard, fast, slow, long, quick...

34:16It's like they're passing a gumball back and forth. And it feels like when you put peanut butter on a horse's tongue to make them talk in a movie or something like that. They both have, like, they're trying to get the peanut butter out of their own mouths. The thing that I think about that scene, too, is, like, clearly they're like, oh, we want to do, like, a from here to eternity kind of scene. Like, you're rolling around on the beach. that didn't work for whatever reason let's put the beach chair in the ocean and you'll just kind of be jumping up out of I've never seen that ever it's like YK Kim as well said you know we've got it from one side I don't think we've got enough in that nine seconds we'll flip to the other side so we can get another perspective it is it's a weird he's you know, like I said, a giant.

35:11And she's teeny tiny. So there's a lot of it that's really weird. I just didn't care for it physically. Oh. Well, there's also, in the clip we were playing before where they're driving down the boardwalk and Just Oates is posing and stuff, there is somebody who has the line, hold on. He goes, they don't make buns like that down at the bakery. To me? Made me really excited. To me, the ad-libs or the things that kept the scenes alive were my favorite part because it was just these little moments where it would be almost a repetition of it. There's one moment where they're getting excited about something in the apartment that they all live in.

35:57I want to talk about that for one year. The band apartment. He's like, hey, hey, quiet down. You're going to wake the neighbors. And then it switches angles. I was like, hey, you're going to wake the neighbors. It was almost like... They do that thing. I feel like this happens in the room, too, where every character has to have a response to something. Like, when Jim is opening his letter from the defense department, and he's taking a while to open it, every character is like, open it. You should open your letter. That's the letter you should open. But really, open the letter. That's the letter.

36:31We want to hear it. What is in that letter? Like, everyone has something to say about this moment. And it's a testament to that they are such good friends and they're invested in each other's lives. And they're also doing that thing that we all do when we're hanging out with our friends at home as we take our shirts off and put a towel over our shoulder. Because throughout the movie, all of them are shirtless with a shoulder towel. Like, that's a dude hanging out at home. And Jim has never zipped up his flies. Jim's pants are always slightly undone at any given point. I also like when they got mail another time and Hall, or was it Hall or Oates?

37:08Which one is it again? Oates. Oates is like, oh, right, what we got here? This is a piece of mail, and this is a piece of mail, and this is a piece of... No, nothing is necessary in that scene. It's just like watching a person hand out mail that has no consequence to anything. As if he doesn't understand conceptually how mail works. that each of those is for one of the people in the house. It has not just arrived for the home, the home's male. Holy cow. The first... Okay, I'm just going to dive straight into... Yeah, please. Jim's story of looking for his father. Amazing. An Oscar-winning performance for Jim.

38:00It's a staggering monologue that I found to be hypnotic. I watched it many times. I found a clip of it on YouTube just so I could watch it only a bunch.

38:21It's phenomenal. Jason, you want to take a crack at it and then we can see how you stack up? Let's see. Yeah, I feel like we all have it. Let's give it a whirl. Oh, boy. Okay. Jim, do you have yours there? I've got it. I've got it. All right, hold on a minute. So, okay. So, wait a second. YK Kim says, wait, I thought we were all orphans, right? Yes. And then Jim goes, that's my father. He walks out of the scene, yeah. Can we get a spotlight? We should be the other three. And bearing in mind that the three in the background is the fine line between trying to cry and trying not to laugh. That's what they do.

39:06My mother was Korean, and my father was black American. She gave me this picture when she was real sick. I was only nine years old. They say that they loved each other and were real loyal. And real happy. But then when he finished military duty, he left.

39:33And we never saw him again. She told me to find him, but I didn't like him because he left us. But I knew one day when I grew up, I'd find him. Whether he was dead or alive. I sent a couple letters to the Defense Department.

39:59And nothing happened. End scene. End scene. Oh, my God.

40:11Now, that was a one, though, wasn't it? It was a one take. I can't follow that. I mean, that's good. He does really deliver it, though. Oh, his tears. He steps forward into a spotlight. Yeah. in a movie. Well, by the way, I'm going to say this. I think he just found his light. There are scenes in this movie where people are reading books in the complete dark. I feel like lighting in this movie was a mystery. Like the man who shot fire out of his hands and then never returned. In the credits of the movie, he shoots fire from his hands. We never see that again. Okay, I thought for sure, yeah, well, at the end, they'll shoot fire.

40:53We'll just take a taste of how Jim does it. Oh. This looks like your brother. I didn't know you had a brother. That's my father. What? This is your father? Yes, it is. Are you sure? I didn't know you had a father. I thought we are all orphans.

41:18Three of them are not wearing shirts.

41:29My mother was Korean and my father was black American. She gave me this picture and she was real sick. I was only nine years old. They say that they loved each other and they were real loyal. and we were glad. But then when he finished military duty, he left. And we never saw him again.

42:05She told me to find him. But I didn't like him because he left us. But I knew one day when I grew up, I'd find him. Whether he was dead or alive.

42:23I sent a couple letters to the department. Nothing happened.

42:39Can't beat the real thing. Y.K. Kim in the last minute just kind of creeps really slowly behind him. Like completely masked. Y.K. Kim's character throughout the movie is learning stuff about his friends at every turn. In the previous scene, he learns that the drummer is of Israeli heritage. He's like, I didn't know that. He doesn't know anything about these people. He knows that they all like grapes. Yep.

43:09By the way, though, so we're how many minutes into this podcast? We've done a lot. What is this movie about? wow what is it about it's about following your dreams and your heart and then you know sometimes people want to stop you with force and you have to be strong enough to get out there and you can't be under the thumb of your drug dealing brother you got to make your own decisions and that's it and also only through the elimination of violence that's what it is can we achieve world peace despite the movie being solely violent. The heroes... After a 20-minute fight scene in the jungle. The heroes of the movie are murderers.

43:58Murderers! Are unrepentant murderers. Michael Phelps kills his girlfriend's brother and she's like, eh, that's okay. Yeah, and he basically chalks it up to, like, my bad. Actually, I've transcribed that one. as well. Oh, fantastic. I'll be John, you'll be Jane. Yeah. Okay.

44:25I'm so sorry about what happened. I felt so bad about that. Bear in mind he's talking about killing her brother, which just, which happened just a few hours ago. That's not your fault, I understand.

44:41See, we, we had to do it. We had no choice. I understand it's all over now.

44:51That's true. It's okay. We're happy for Jim. Brilliant.

44:58So we're happy for Jim. She is a low-maintenance girlfriend. She's not going to make it about her. You know her friends are like, Jane, what are you doing? You have to dump him. He killed your brother. He and his friends are murderers. And yeah, their tunes are banging. But again, he killed your brother. Do you think she's like out of school now? I'm pretty sure that her brother was molesting her from the age of like 15 to... Really? Yeah, like that's the only thing that makes sense. Well, he's very jealous. He's like jealous the way only a lover can be. Yes. A lover. He's a jealous brother lover.

45:52And that's the reason why she's not upset that he's dead. If anything, I think she feels relieved. Well, she did say early on, she sets the stage for this. She says, I don't like him. Right. Which makes it cool to be killed. And also, I think what really gave me insight to her relationship with her brother is, in flashback, it's the most innocuous, like, they have this, like, thing, and you see a flashback of her and her brother, and it's, like, him just, like, an inconsequential, like, flashback. Like, oh, my brother. And it's just, like, them in front of the school. Like, it's just, like, a flash.

46:25Like, that was the only moment. She's like, oh, yeah, I remember him. Right, yeah, he was the hairy guy. Yeah, all right, it's cool, it's cool. By the way, if Jim's sword wound did not kill him, dragging him through a stagnant pond is certainly going to do it. It's going to get infected. Oh, he would have lived, but apparently all of the bacteria was shoved into his body when you dragged him through swamp water. Jason, I'm going to say... You fucking morons. Little do you know about the suits that they make in Orlando. They are swamp resistant. And so when you got a nice Orlando suit, you can fall right off one of those gator boats.

47:07and you'll be fine. We haven't talked about the train yard fight. We haven't talked about the bikers. We haven't talked about the B-roll of bikers. Bikers were all real and paid in beer. Yeah. Truth. Bikers, all real, paid in beer. Also, I read in the little trivia section that Jane's real boyfriend was just oats. Yes. And in the movie, her boyfriend is giant Michael Phelps. And so whenever they had to do make-out scenes, they would send Just Oats out for beer. Yeah. They'd be like, hey, Just Oats, go get us some beers, will you? And he'd come back and they'd be like, your girlfriend just made out with giant Michael Phelps.

47:46You idiot, you fell for it. What are you guys shooting today? Oh, just the scene at the beach in the sea. Don't worry about it, go get some beers. He's like, I'll make it up, I'll just roll on women. Also, how about the fact that there is a scene, I love the scene where Jeff's gang of biker thugs were tailing Sound Dragon in a white Volvo. Like the bad guy's car was just a boxy, safe, white Volvo. I was like, they just are doing like, oh, well, my mom's got a car. We'll do it. Bring it. By the way, speaking of this, every time there was a fight in this movie, I thought, June, this is actually a great movie for you because I think you finally get your answer to what's a street fighter because every time in this movie, it would seem like a bunch of people would get in the street and fight.

48:33They would always just like, block a thoroughfare and seemingly like 40 people without any stunt coordination just went just going to town on each other just attacking people like standing in convertibles like going like this just like raising one arm over and over there was a lot of like sound dragon is vastly outnumbered And then they kick ass, like, poorly. Yes. And defeat, like, people who sometimes have guns. Well, that's what's so weird about the statement you read at the end of the movie about world peace and not using violence. You never see them struggle to not fight. They never try and turn down a fight.

49:18No. Which isn't that the whole thing about martial arts, that you learn how to fight so that you don't have to. Yeah. No, they just go for it. If you have the ability to hold someone's nose with your toe... You're going to want to do that. Then you're going to use that, aren't you? I totally hear that. As much as you can. There was one funny moment in that scene where they get pulled... When they get stopped in the street of downtown Orlando and... Miami? Oh, no, Orlando.

49:50Where one of the characters comes over and is going to pour beer on all their heads. Oh, yeah. So he can get YK Kim because he's right by him, but he really can't reach Michael Phelps. So Michael Phelps leans in to get the beer poured on his head. I loved that the bad guys were like, hey, Jerry, get over here. Do you do it or whatever. And there's like dozens of bad guys. With guns. Right? With guns. And then this guy comes in like, oh, you think, oh, he's got to be their most badass guy. All he does is pour beer on their head. That's his big move, which is crazy. There's a tough guy's song in this movie.

50:32Do you have the tough guy's song, Paul? Oh, you bet. By the way, what? Fuck yes. This is some next level shit. Um. Let's all fuck to this tonight. Tough guy's down. Like, do it. Do it, people.

50:54I'm a tough guy. Tough guy. Somebody leaves the camera. That is tough guy song. Oh, we missed the best. My favorite part of it is when he goes into the bar and kisses the bartender. Yes. I was like, what? That scene is crazy because it has two of the main bad guys there. They get at the bar and then they have a conversation where the mics are not on. and it's kind of like it's like a moment where they're kind of meeting up to talk about something big and like yeah so and you don't hear what they're talking about it's like that should be a huge plot point in the movie not like a not a montage roll over the scene oh my god this movie is great I think you guys are lucky so much good stuff well let me tell you a little bit about about the movie just a little bit more and then we'll talk to the audience so um Long story short, they get a distribution company to purchase this film for$100 ,000.

51:58It opens in eight theaters in Orlando. That was the release plan. It had a very poor critical reception, and it ended after three weeks. Never to be heard from a kid. Sorry, what year is this? 87. Okay. Then, in 2009, a programmer at the Alamo Drafthouse was on eBay and saw the listing for a 35mm print of the film for$35. And in 2010, screen the film, people went nuts. And the Drafthouse was like, holy shit, we found, like, the room of the 80s. The Tommy Wiseau room, not the Brie Larson room. although some of these people might have been forced into acting in this movie in a room scenario so so basically uh then they call yk kim they're like we want to release your movie hangs up on them multiple times they he thinks it's a prank and then they're no we really wanted he's like really and they go yeah they re-released this movie in 2012 it was missing no one saw it it wasn't available from 87 to 2012 and it just is a it's a recent find that alamo draft house happened to find because someone was on ebay and found this thing and then screened it it would never it would have it would have only been those eight theaters in orlando for that run And so now the movie has become a big success, and there's been money made from it, the million dollar budget.

53:43And just to show you, well, we'll get into that at the end. But yeah, so that is - That's amazing. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. And just deserved. Yeah, it came back. I love that as a, as like a, like I love that it's lost for all of those years. And then came out of nowhere, and now he's getting some success off of it. And he's still alive. Has he made a second one yet? By the way, he should. That would be amazing. Yes! With the same cast. The Orlando connection was shot in Miami. And plus Phelps can probably finance it now. Well, let's go into the crowd and see if you guys have anything to bring up that we might have missed.

54:28Anything at all? All right, sir, how are you? What's your name? What's your question? My name is Casey, and I wanted to acknowledge during the train yard fight, one of the henchmen who I nicknamed Kid Rock Crocktop, who did like, he like kind of humped like the mound of dirt while giant Michael Phelps was fighting other guys, and then he just danced for him. And then giant Michael Phelps punched him out. Yeah, there was a lot of pretty weird vignettes in that train yard fight. all right here we go let's see what's going on yeah there were three there were three he made some he made some air though didn't he once he got kicked yeah he went there were three bad guys that i found very funny and compelling that guy the little also the little messy kind of skinny guy with him and the big guy anyway it doesn't matter all right ma 'am your name your question My name's Jody and my question is in the final scene when they're all sort of samurai scimitar-ing each other who are the people on the bridge are they just like like observers yeah I feel like those are people that were like Orlando locals who heard like hey they're shooting a movie down by the bridge Can we watch and then YK was like yeah, you could even be in it really it doesn't make a difference Watching people die like getting They're not in it.

55:50They're just watching and see how it all goes down. If there are ninjas in your town, you would go out to see them too. That posits a world, though, in which ordinary people out for a walk in the park witness a ninja fight that ends in multiple murders. I also noticed that and questioned it, but I was too distracted by what was going on with Yoshito when he was fighting. Very clearly, it was not Yoshito. No. It was... The stuntman had a mustache at one point. I think... I think it was Dead Jeff. Actor Dead Jeff had come back to play Yoshito. And the thing is very, very obvious. I believe that was a reshoot and you're 100 % right.

56:34Yeah, that was... They have to make do with what they had. Yes, sir. Your name and your question. My name's Kevin. And I'm wondering, if you're a ninja and you're trying to be all stealthy, would you pull up in your loud-ass motorcycle everywhere? Totally true. totally true I mean what do these ninjas do what are they up to otherwise like what are aside from that's in a lyric somewhere in one of the songs isn't it that they're ninjas by night what is it they do during the day they're bikers by day bikers by day ninjas by night how are they earning money bikers get into some shit you know it really is like it's the duality of life You know, the loud bike during the day and the quiet stealth of the ninja.

57:23You know, it's the real yin yang of life. You've got two outfits in your wardrobe. You've got your leathers. Yeah. And then your full taekwondo gear. Yeah. You know what I liked about him, too? Like, when he was riding that motorcycle, he didn't look fully comfortable on it. Like, in the tough guy's song, he's supposed to be like, I'm a tough guy. And it looks like bugs are flying into his face. He's like trying to avoid bugs a little bit as it's coming out. Yes, sir, your name, your question. My name is Frank, and I really want to know, are we going to address the crazy family tree between the Snow Ninja and Harry Little Jeff?

58:01Yeah, well, with Yoshito. Right, well, Jane, Jeff, and Yoshito. Obviously, I had to rewatch this scene a few times because I thought, do you think it was a typo in the script or a missed delivery by the actor when he went, I'm so sorry, but your brother Jeff is dead? Was it like originally scripted, brother, I've got to tell you that Jeff is dead. And it's now turned and you're going, hang on, Jeff, Jane and Yoshito all grew up together? Well, I am remembering that their parents, so the dad who died very shortly after the mom, That dad, I'm pretty sure, left them and married someone else or left for another woman.

58:50So maybe that woman... Maybe it's a half. Maybe Yishido's a half. But he seems the oldest.

58:59Also, Jane and Jeff do not look alike at all. He is... I think it's hard to... Yeah, that's the thing. I think it's so hard to know without that amount of hair, if they look alike or not. I think there's no way to tell. But I guess I assumed that Yoshito was not a blood brother, but was like a brother to him. Like a friend brother? Did Jane mention Yoshito? No, no mention of him. Boy. Yoshito also has very lax entrance policies in the temple. People just kind of barge in on him when he seems to have all the ninjas in a kneeling position. and talking. When the ninja's in the beginning of the movie, I forgot about this, when they go to grab the cocaine, they grab a handful of it and let it sift through their fingers as if that's some sort of indication of like, that's the cocaine.

59:54Like, you know, normally you wipe some on your gums or whatever, but they just seem like to scoop up a handful and run. And leaving also bags of cocaine, fully intact bags of cocaine there. These are bad ninjas. Great bikers. Great bikers. What was the ninjas' plan? Did we know what they were fighting for? No idea. Coke? Did they want the Coke trade? I thought that he was, I don't know. He was just bringing that man. I mean, I don't want to, like, stymie us all here, but, like. Does anyone have a clear idea of what the ninjas were fighting for? Oh, Miami, can't. I'm going to come over around here.

1:00:30You seem to really feel like you got it. If it's YKK, I'm going to freak out. Can you come over here just a little bit? All right, here we go. All right, tell me what your theory is. All right, so the Miami connection is Yoshito, he's the plug, he's the drug dealer in Miami that brings the drugs to Orlando. That's the Miami connection. Okay. That's all they wanted, that's all they wanted. So they're not siblings, really. Well, that doesn't answer that necessarily. He said it though so emphatically I bought it. Yeah, but what it does answer. But it does bring up other questions. It does answer the Miami connection of it all.

1:01:10Yeah, I like that. Which I appreciate. All right, ma 'am. Your name, your question. My name is Megan, and my question is, how much is the band getting paid because they're all driving around in one car, which the convertible top doesn't seem to work because it's raining. I want to talk to them just enough to buy grapes. Well, there's a couple things I want to say. First of all, they are spending all their money on the pyrotechnics in the small club. But that doesn't, that's normally for a big arena. But I love that they got in that convertible. And if you watch that scene, they have trouble getting into that car.

1:01:43So I counted at least two people. Like, it was not a graceful jump in. It was as if you, like, they didn't know how to navigate it at all. Yeah. They're also like, all of them are physically bizarre. Yeah, they all look like, you know, those crazy drawings that people do of you at fairs and stuff. Caricatures? They are all caricatures. They all sort of look like caricatures. Like big giant heads riding tiny skateboards. Holding a tennis dragon. Especially when they're moving around on the stage during the songs. I don't know if any of you noticed, but none of the instruments are plugged in. None.

1:02:23And they're all playing guitar. They're all playing guitar. There's like three guitars. Y.K. Kim's doing his very best. Like this. You know, gliding between one note. Even still, the songs are fucking great. Amazing. The songs are great. They nailed it. Now it's time for a second opinion. It's just that your opinion on this movie is no good, and you really didn't watch it in the context that you should. My opinion might be second, but beside it I have stood. I'd give this movie all five stars and six stars if I could. Yes! Alyssa! Wait. You can go right there. You can go back. You can go. Give it for Alyssa.

1:03:05And Alyssa Kumite is with, what's your name, sir? Cash. Cash! Now it's time for a second opinion. My oh my, now what can you do when having one opinion just won't do? We thought the movie bad, but we could be wrong. Let's check out some reviews from Amazon. Some reviews from people that hold this movie dear. Read with passion by my man Paul Scheer. We gotta take a second look. This movie couldn't have been a failure. there's a decapitation in the motherfucking trailer. Yes! Amazing. Thank you so much. That was amazing. Great job. Wow. Stellar. Stellar, stellar, stellar stuff. Amazing. Oh, wow.

1:03:46They're in the same row, too. All right. So, obviously, like I said, the second opinions here, they really aren't, they're not, they're not great because they love the movie. but I'll read them anyway. Okay, this one is from Jamie Gross, written November 13th, 2014. Catchy tunes, sweet action moves, and an important underlying message about the importance of family, whether it be by blood or other bonds. Five stars. And then this one right here, This is from just an Amazon customer. It's titled, I Can't Help It. I really like this movie. The songs from the band stick in your head. I live about 50 miles away from Orlando.

1:04:38Five stars.

1:04:45Just laying down some facts. I don't know. Almost as if to say, I could go see Sound Dragon if I wanted. And then finally, this one from Andrew Rodellis. And it says like this. Miami Connection is the epitome of movies that happen to combine Florida, ninjas, martial arts, and music into one thing. Between the interesting facets of Dragon Sound, the escalation of violence in the movie, it reminds me a bit of the original Mad Max, oddly enough, especially considering the biker gangs, and the character of Jane, who echoes some of the feminist ideas, since her character arc is sort of all about doing what she wants and not obeying Jeff.

1:05:31There are some things that emerge here about Miami Connection that suggest it's not merely a brainless action flick. Five stars. Wow.

1:05:45So that is, those are some very sincere, sincere gin.

1:05:53no i love this movie i really do it's just so crazy um well so crazy can we do you can we play some of these songs well i want to play the songs but i have two i have two treats here oh yeah uh the first being this um this is the original end um okay so it let's see the one that's green the one that's yeah this is what the audience is in france saw uh all right so uh let's see Jim! Don't die, Jim! I want to see my father. Come on, hang on. Where's your shirt, bro? I want to see my father. I want to see my father. Don't die. Please, you're alive. Please, you're alive. Jim, hang on till we get to the hospital.

1:06:43Jim, you cannot die. You need to die. You need to see your father. Jim, your father is coming now. Oh no, Jim's father's on that plane.

1:07:00Wow! Jim dies in the back of the car just as his father's plane lands in Orlando. He flies right over them. He flies literally right over them. Which makes sense why they stopped the car when Jim was dying. Holy shit. On a flight path. If they're on a flight path, then how did he know he was on that plane if the plane comes in every five minutes? I did forget that one detail that I loved is that Jim's tie is also cut in half when he is stabbed. That is a dark ending. And they went for it. And now, because I think we're all a little bit interested, this is a documentary. This is kind of the best of this documentary, so we get to see where these people are.

1:07:49right now. So take a quick look at them now. It's short, but here we go. My mother was Korean. And my father was black American. That was very intense. That was boo-hoo crime. And it took about two hours for that last, what you see on the movie, for that scene to be done. We were putting onions under my eyes and eye drops. And finally, I just recalled something from the past and got a little bit out. But the first cut that they didn't take, that was a good one. You will find your father. It did come out funny. I always thought it was a good film. You know, it had a nice little story and not perfect.

1:08:39Lots of little quirky things. And oh my god, oh my god. Oh my god. You told me. I mean, that's just, it is what it is. The musical force behind Dragon Sound was the lead singer and the guitar player, Angelo and Kathy. They were actual musicians and they wrote the songs. They also help us in terms of getting the musical instruments, getting drums, getting all the equipment, coaching us on how to look on camera, you know, playing air guitar and things like that. I had a little rhythm. I had a little rhythm. I did well, I thought, for a non-artist. It was that kind of new wave-ish time and period.

1:09:24I believe the songs that Angelo and Cathy wrote really reflected the spirit and the feeling that happened in that club. So it was very realistic from that perspective. Against the Ninja, I believe we may have done that in one day. We went in on a Tuesday. I don't know if we came, I think we came back the next night with it. Demo, because we had a four track studio, so put it together and he loved it.

1:09:53I want a Dragon Sound t-shirt. They're available. I think you could have one made pretty easily. By the way, that should be our next How Did This Get Made shirt, a Dragon Sound t-shirt. Oh, he's wearing one right there. What?

1:10:11Did you see it? That's awesome. Love it. No sleeves on that shirt. That looks amazing. Wow. I feel like we could do a whole episode on those two minutes. What has gone on? I could do a whole second episode just on the music. Oh, it really is great. Is there anything, as we are winding down here, that we didn't talk about that anyone wants to bring up before we find out if you'd recommend it. Although I feel like that's a... I've forgotten about that all lace suit. The all lace white suit. So just want to talk about it for a second. I've never seen lace pants. It would seem to me really hard to keep in shape.

1:10:59Like physical shape, right? Yeah, I wanted a close-up so I could see how they lay. Because I couldn't understand what they were. I mean, that outfit was just amazing. I love it. I just want to talk about the grapes last time. Yeah. Right, so I don't know whether you remember, there's a scene where YK Kim goes around all the other characters, and he doesn't have any dialogue in that scene. So he's obviously saying to himself, what can I do, what can I do in this scene? So he grabs a bunch of grapes and just feeds them to all his friends. And then goes to the next one and just keeps going around, like four or five grapes.

1:11:39It's like this homoerotic kind of gesture. Do you see it as a Christ allegory? Eat of this grape. It is my flesh. Right? He's definitely like the Christ of this movie like I can. Yeah, I can't remember what happened in the scene. I can't imagine it being that important what happened in the scene. Well, I mean, there are those scenes that make no sense. There's a scene where they just all eat and the chef just looks at them and is like, good job. I'm glad you're enjoying my food. I had a question about that scene. When they get there, to that restaurant, the owner is being beat up. And he's wearing a Mickey and Minnie Mouse apron.

1:12:21What is his relation? Is he just also being hassled independent? Yes. Wow. He's only seen that guy. Was that his only scene? He has two scenes. One where he's watching them eat, and he just stands at the front of the table and smiles. And then the next scene, they reference like oh he's having a hard time too and then like that gang is there and like this food's shit and they just walk out for this yeah and they walk out yeah they're after seemingly enjoying it well because i was like is he tied into something with them as well like are the people that are hassling them now expanding to hassle this guy i couldn't i feel like that guy provided craft service for them and they were like we got to put him in the movie i feel like Yeah, yeah, maybe I just I just remembered He's Mark's uncle in the movie.

1:13:09He's not YK Kim's uncle Okay, okay He's Mark's uncle. Oh one more thing that just came to mind actually you know when Jane introduces Michael Phelps to a brother she said oh this is my my friend and Brother goes a friend

1:13:32And giant Michael Phelps goes like, hey, Jeff, nice to meet you. I've heard a lot about you. And the height, if you can imagine the height discrepancy between Jane and giant Michael Phelps is she towers above Jeff. Jeff could fit in giant Michael Phelps' fanny pack. Well, I'll go around and ask. I mean, it's a dumb question, but Jason, do you recommend this movie? Paul, 100 % yes. I would urge our listeners to buy this movie immediately and watch it with someone that they care about. I bought it on iTunes, and there's a special documentary about the music on iTunes, but I believe there's also a DVD edition that's called Stupid Cocaine Edition, and that has a little documentary on it and stuff like that as well.

1:14:23June, do you recommend it? Yes, of course. And you said earlier it is your type of ninja movie. It is my kind of ninja movie, for sure. Chris, do you recommend this movie? Hey, come on. We are friends through eternity. There's loyalty. There's honesty. We're going to be together through thick and thin. Ninjas die. Friends forever. Bikers by day, ninjas by night. Still the cocaine. 100 % what a movie. I also concur by this movie. It's great. And before we go out, we have to talk about plugs. You're the Worst coming back this September, early September.

1:15:08Very exciting. Is there anything you can even tell us about it? Yeah, it's season four. Season three finished. Tiny bit of a spoiler, but the two are now separated. And this season is a fun, jam-packed kind of selection of awful ways that they attempt to get back together. But it's funnier and sillier and darker than ever. It's great. I'm very excited to watch. September 6th. Thank you, everyone. There we go. Jason June, what do you got? Anything? I got nothing. I'm good. I will plug an amazing way you can contact your representatives if you want to, which is through something called Resist Bot, which maybe people know about, maybe they don't.

1:15:56But it's literally, you put the number in your phone, you text RESIST to the number, and you can, they will fax for you. It's run all by volunteers. Any questions, concerns you have to your representatives, you put in your zip code. It's amazing. It's super easy. But I really recommend it. It's unbelievable. And I will just say, I have nothing that really lays it down. I have two things you can watch on Netflix, which is you can watch this movie opening night. There's two. Look at the picture and think of the one that I would probably be in and pick that one. And then the other one is Wet Hot American Summer Ten Years Later.

1:16:37My character, Dave, comes back again for a couple episodes. Thank you all for coming. and give it up for Chris. He's great. Big thanks to April Haley for finding all these amazing clips. Nick Haley for doing all this research. Kelly Alta for pulling it all together. Awesome, awesome. Thank you. Thank you. July T.S. at the booth. Everybody here in Largo, thank you. That's the show, but it doesn't end here. Listen to our mini episode where the discussion about this movie continues. You can give us a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 619-PAUL-ASK. I'll answer all your questions about this movie or even about your life.

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