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How Did This Get Made? - Episode Summary: My Boyfriend's Back LIVE!
Podcast Overview Title: How Did This Get Made? Description: An award-winning comedy podcast that celebrates bad movies, hosted by Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, and Jason Mantzoukas. They dissect the funniest of the worst films, often featuring amusing guest appearances. New episodes are released every Friday with classic episodes available on Tuesdays.
Episode Details Episode Title: My Boyfriend's Back LIVE! Air Date: [Insert Date] Description: The hosts dive into the 1993 teen horror rom-com *My Boyfriend's Back*, featuring performances by Andrew Lowery, Traci Lind, and Matthew Fox. They discuss various aspects of the movie, including standout performances and the film's quirky narrative.
Key Themes and Discussions
Overview of the Film
- Film Premise: A teenage boy returns from the dead to win over the most beautiful girl in school.
- Critical Reception: The film holds a low rating with a 13% on Rotten Tomatoes and had a dismal box office performance, grossing only $1.4 million on a $12 million budget.
Performance Highlights
- Philip Seymour Hoffman: The hosts rave about his eccentric portrayal, noting it as both brilliant and memorable.
- Creepy Protagonist: Discussion around the lead character, Johnny Dingle, being presented as a "creepo," and how the film navigates the boundaries of romantic obsession.
Nostalgia and Cultural References
- Comparison to Other Films: The episode draws parallels to other cult classics like *Teen Wolf* and discusses the era's portrayal of teenage life.
- Humor in Horror: The hosts explore the unique blend of comedy and horror in *My Boyfriend's Back*, noting how this genre mix used to be more prevalent.
Personal Anecdotes
- Childhood Stories from Hosts: Paul shares various humorous anecdotes from his childhood, including misconceptions about movie clues regarding nudity.
- Audience Interaction: Questions from the live audience prompt discussions on deeper themes, including the dynamics of teenage relationships and societal norms.
Key Takeaways
- Enjoyment vs. Critique: Despite critiquing the film for its plot and character motivations, the hosts express a strong affection for the movie's charm and nostalgia.
- Call for Simplicity in Storytelling: The hosts yearn for straightforward storytelling in modern comedies, lamenting the loss of simpler, more fun narratives.
- Cultural Reflection: The conversation reflects on the cultural shifts in how teen narratives are constructed, with a call to return to more humorous and less serious portrayals.
Memorable Quotes
- "This film feels like a John Waters version of Teen Wolf." - Comment on the film's tone and approach.
- "Every now and then, I get sucked in and I'm like, 'This is a child doing a play at school!'" - June, reflecting on the movie's charm.
Audience Engagement
- Voicemail and Discord: Listeners are encouraged to leave voicemails for corrections or thematic contributions, as well as join the Discord community for further discussions.
Links and Resources
- Tickets and Merchandise: Links to purchase tickets for live shows, merchandise, and Paul's book, *Joyful Recollections of Trauma*.
- Social Media: Follow the podcast on various platforms for updates and interactive content.
Conclusion The episode wraps with laughter and a celebration of the absurdity found in *My Boyfriend's Back*, solidifying its place in the world of "so bad it's good" cinema. The hosts invite listeners to reflect on their experiences with bad movies and the joy they can bring, regardless of their critical reception.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00What if a creepy stalker got a second chance to be a creep? we saw my boyfriend's back so you know what that means
0:35Street body, hope to blow off steam. Just a sucker, punch the odd life. Attempting to break. Sharp middle. Flurred, Demick, how he's staying alive. They call him a badass and he's on the line. Crankin' 88 minutes cause they cool as ice. Cause they're bad Jim, Vonnie looking kind and nice. Paul and Joel's getting literal. Jason is getting laid. Joel is making sure all the monkey shots get the pain. They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grave. Here's a real question for you. How did this kid pay? Hello, people of Earth. and hello, people of Los Angeles! We are live at Largo for our Halloween special, The Hauntingly Scary, My Boyfriend's Back.
1:18My Boyfriend's Back, directed by the same person who wrote Gosford Park.
1:29That's right, Bob Balaban. Bob Balaban, Phoebe's dad from Friends. Bob Balaban, the man who played Warren Littlefield on Seinfeld. Bob Balaban made this movie, and boy, oh boy, I think it saves it. I think that in other people's hands, it would have been worse. But it's also not great. now if you're wondering what what is my boyfriend's back what somebody's boyfriend comes back well no um imdb describes this film as a teenage boy comes back from the dead because he is determined to win the most beautiful girl in the school okay sure i guess that's kind of like you know you're you're kind of burying some parts of the story in there whitewashing it if you will um we're gonna get into it we're gonna get into this film that is not even an hour and 30 minutes a movie that has a 13 on the tomato meter a movie that cost 12 million and on opening weekend made 1.4 Oh yes, there is so much to discuss in tonight's film, but I need my co-host, so please welcome to the stage, Mr.
2:59Jason Manzoukas!
3:07What's up, jerks? Let's go, Largo! Yeah! Oh, boy, Paul, I'm going to answer your last question first. I 100 % recommend this movie. There it is. There it is. Maybe it's just the harsh reality of John Carpenter's The Ghosts of Mars last night. Sure. This today was like a warm bath. I loved it. Here's the thing. I'll answer the last question first as well. I also recommend it I don't know if I liked it Oh I thought it was great I had that thing happen That every once in a while Happens with the movies that we do Which is I found myself Not taking notes Just enjoying the movie Every now and then Every now and then I get sucked in And I'm like Austin Pendleton Okay And then I look and I haven't made a note In like 10 minutes Well I felt the same way I feel the same way I feel like if I was watching a child do, you know, a play at school.
4:17What are you watching a child do? A play at school? Okay. I have children. I am not going and watching other people's children. Will you let me meet them? Please let me meet them. No. Let me meet your kids. Someday I'm going to meet your kids and someday I'm going to meet your wife. No. Neither. Neither. either um jason you you are better at this than most what year you think this movie came out boy oh boy i'm gonna say this movie came out in 1987 great great guess we'll hold the answer on that for just a second god i fucked up with this last night too and let me introduce to you my other co-host please welcome to the stage miss june diane raphiel
5:14nice to meet you welcome june how are you i'm okay how are you paul i'm well i'm well june well because we started the episode answering the last question first do you recommend this movie i don't know why we're doing this i don't either talk about it what are we gonna do next teen wolf yeah it doesn't another great classic great movie why didn't i see this movie sooner where has it been my life would be so much different if i'd seen this movie and why are honestly why aren't we making more movies like this yes how is there not teen movies now that aren't about like oh no twin brothers both want to fuck me or whatever all of these teen shows are there's multiple teen shows in which brothers are battling it out all all i'm saying is if this was the uh final season of euphoria i'd be thrilled i just like a strong comedic premise yep where everybody knows what world they're in And the joke, I gotta say, now maybe I'm in a weird mental space, you know?
6:28But I have to say, the jokes never got old to me. Every time someone said it. Every time you wanted to take a bite out of someone, I was like, yes! I got some, I have some small notes, but before we even get into that, June, I want to ask you this question. I know you hate being put on the spot, but what year do you think this movie came out? this movie came well I'm just going to base this on Philip Seymour Hoffman's career and I believe there's also there's a cameo from Matthew McConaughey I mean he has two lines in the movie also cut out Renee Zellweger she's in the beauty salon scene no lines my guess is this movie shot in Texas yes okay that makes sense because those are all local hires Yes.
7:17June, what year? Okay, so putting that together, carry the one. I'm going to say this movie came out in 1988. Great. All right, Jason, you said? I believe I said 87. And the year is? No. 1993. 1993. How? 1993. No, wait. Was it shot in 1987? Here's the thing, but Jason, what I'm really, I'm actually worried. I'm worried because I do believe you and I have lost a decade of our lives. I believe we may suffer from time blindness. I will say that this year, 1993, was peak Zomcom time. Because these are the other movies in 93 that came out. Zombie Bloodbath, Weekend at Bernie's 2, Return of the Living Dead 3, Ghost Brigade, Ed.
8:15Ghost Brigade? I don't know. Ed and his dead mother. But it's a zombie movie called Ghost Brigade? Well, I guess maybe they run into zombies, too. I'm so curious. I'm like, we gotta do Ghost Brigade. I'm ready for it. I think that's clear. So, yeah, different. It definitely hit differently in 1993. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm sure we don't know, but some nerd will tell me. What year did Teen Wolf come out? Teen Wolf came out the year before Back to the Future, because he shot that first. So Back to the Future is 85. This is the 40th anniversary. Because this movie seems like it's basically Teen Wolf, but what if instead of the puberty allegory being werewolfism, it is zombieism, right?
8:56Yeah. It's still a lot of the same games are being played. Everybody's normalizing it as a zombie immediately. But I also feel like Teen Wolf, I mean, dare I say a better film. A movie that I also... He said it. I can't believe he said it. I can't believe he said Teen Wolf is a better film. Oh, that would be pretty good. I will say that, well, I mean, this is going to be weird and you're not. Why? Well, what do I have to hide? Say it. When I watched Teen Wolf as a child, I had it on VHS because I taped it off of whatever. You know, it was illegal. I wasn't doing it illegally. And there was a moment where he was like getting intimate with his girlfriend, Michael J.
9:35Fox. And he said, tickle my paws. Like it was like that was like a thing, like tickle my paws. Like he's like, you know, it's a sexual thing. But I thought that was a cue to the home viewing audience to hit pause to potentially see some nudity.
9:54You thought that up yourself? So you thought that maybe movies were giving you subtle clues? Had this worked before? So in my mind, I never heard the line so clearly. I never heard tickle my paws. I just kind of heard, like, in my mind, I might have heard, like, hit pause. And I was like, and I thought I would see. And your mind immediately went to, if I hit it, I get to see nudity. Because I knew it was, like, a sexy scene. And I was like, ooh, maybe they would shoot, like, an insert. Holy shit. That's awesome. I've never shared that with anyone. But it's the only thing that comes. But did you want to announce the next book?
10:42I know it's a single word. So you thought, like, were you always looking for your lead actors and protagonists to speak to you, the viewer? I understand. I completely understand the overwhelming desire to see nudity. Yes. Yeah. I didn't have that. And that you're looking for any way that it might be able to happen. That's why you would watch a scrambled cable channel. 100%. And play with that dial. Exactly. Every 10 minutes you get 30 seconds of a boob or something. But thinking that the movie was telling you. Hip pause. Hip pause. Well, obviously, I mean, did you see anything? No. Was it speaking to you?
11:24No, because I thought I wasn't hitting it at the right time. How long did you spend? A lot. I would be like, maybe. No. No. And then many years later, I found that the line was, tickle my paws. I was like, ah, he wasn't saying please hit paws. I mean, this is. I'll tell you two things of why I thought that could work. Number one, first piece of evidence. When I was a child, there was a clue VHS game. Okay, so you would put the VHS tape in there and you would play the board game. and they're like, fast forward to minute 277. And you're like, that's not a thing that could exist. Two, four, seven.
12:08And I'd do it. And you'd watch something like, oh, good job there, mate. You did the thing. And you're like, oh, great. So I thought, okay, maybe all VHS. Who's that guy? Who's Colonel Mustard? Who's the least Darby of this game? Like Jumanji. So I thought there was like a, you know, I was like. So you had been primed to, yeah. Right, and then. To be an interactive viewer. from a clue vhs video game this is a movie he taped himself off of cable all right i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you the two other you're trying too hard to get this okay to normalize this behavior i'm gonna give you the two other things um the other thing was that my uh my parents were uh at a certain point uh born again christians and they were like there's a lot of backward masking on albums.
12:58Like, you know, so, you know, you play it backwards, like, salute the devil! You know, not salute. But, you know, you get it.
13:09Because he's the commander-in-chief, so you gotta... All hail! All hail the devil! Salute the devil! All hail the devil! I'd love to know what song, in reverse plays Hail to the Chief and has the lyrics salute the devil holy cow, holy shit how are these new stories how is it possible there are new stories so then here's my my promise to you the audience, we won't stop this podcast until Paul runs out of childhood stories. It's not movies. It's not even our desire to do it anymore. It's so that we can get these stories to you, so that we can do things that provoke Paul's memory. Well, that was what a lot of people said about my book.
14:10They're like, wow, you didn't even share the stories that you share in the podcast. We thought it would just be the stories from the podcast, but no, I forgot those. I'm just telling new ones. And then the final thing that made me think that there could be this. Wait, what? There was a kid in my class. I believe his name was Brian Orlando. And Brian Orlando told me that his dad had a device that was like a remote control. So if you were watching like a shampoo commercial with an attractive woman in it, you could take the device and then put the joystick down and then see naked people in the commercial.
14:48naked people that woman naked or just that woman okay so it would be like i need to get in touch with brian orlando because because and hear me out if this tech exists and i'm only just hearing about it okay okay orlando so just so you know i'm coming in hot with a remote control device clue the video game and backward masking i thought that teen wolf because it was a pg-13 movie was sending me a little signal to see boof naked wow wow tickle all that from tickle my paws we got all of that from oh my god well i didn't want you to think i was a weirdo pervert i we do we do think that anyway it's like they say now boys like see pornography by the age of 10 and it's so disturbing but then I'm like I don't know maybe it's better it doesn't matter at least they get to see it think of the hours they're not spending doing whatever this nonsense was you could have learned to play guitar nope maybe just show it to them you know by the way I will say that scene where he says these are boobs don't waste your time they'll be there later I will say that that scene where she is saying tickle my paws, they're fully dressed in a high school hallway.
16:17So it would have to be like a real insert shot. You must have lived in a world in which hitting paws on anything might reveal nudity. Oh my God. True. And what's really like, I mean, what's actually breaking my heart is the moment you must have realized like it's not fair. No, like it's just not fair. I'll be honest. I don't know that he's given up hope. He still seems to think he just didn't pause it in the right place. Well, now I got the 4K steelbook and now I think I can get to the bottom of it. You don't even want to know how I dealt with. When I finally got my hands on a Playboy magazine, I was so nervous that I was going to get busted that I cut out the pictures that I thought were choice.
17:12Were choice? I want to be very clear. That's a word I guarantee Paul has not used since he was a teenager. True. That's not a word we use anymore to describe hot women. As a matter of fact, I think it's a term they use in Teen Wolf. Is it? I think it is. I think Styles uses it. Holy shit. So I cut out these pictures and then I was like, I can never get busted with this. Again, a new story is being, do you know how lucky you are to be here tonight? Oh my God. Do you mean you cut them out like in a square or like did you cut out the lines? Such a good question. So for a collage or for just pages?
17:58So, great question, great question. Great question. Wow, those legs are spread.
18:08I cut them out to be slightly smaller than a magazine page. So I was cropping slightly. Why not just rip it out? Well, hold on, I'll tell you, June. And then I got an old hunting and fishing magazine. And then I inserted those nude pages throughout. Did you own the hunting and fishing magazine? Or did you go and buy that specifically for subterfuge? Well, I had like, there were a collection of hunting and fishing magazines in my house. How old were you at this point? Guess. I mean, guesstimate. Like fifth grade. Okay, okay, okay. And so then I would keep that in my magazine rack in my room that was next to my Lazy Boy.
18:58I did have a Lazy Boy in my room. You were a real Martin Crane as a child.
19:10So it was next to my Lazy Boy. And so then I knew that I could keep it there. no one is ever going to look at this old hunting and fishing magazine that ate outdated info. So if I wanted to look at it, I could go to page 35, 72. I could move around and I'd have my pictures locked in there. Wow. Wow. This is next level. Wow, yeah. This is incredible stuff. But that just – because we do have younger listeners. Yes. These are the lengths that we had to go to in effort to see nudity and be titillated. We couldn't just be like, look at any random thing online. No, I had to make sure I was cutting and pasting and using glue.
20:02I'm just curious, did you try to integrate these choice women into the hunting and fishing tableaus at all? Oh, yeah. Was it just like the page on the page? Yeah. It was, unfortunately, it was not that thought out. I just kind of, I found areas where I felt like, you know, maybe the reader would be done with that story and then I would pop that out. Got it. So, yeah, because I would never want someone to find it and be like, oh, what is going on in the world of hunting and fishing? And then be mid-story and be like, whoa. And so, yeah, so I did take that hunting and fishing magazine upstairs because I thought that no one was, really I was worried about it.
20:42my mom was going to find it. I don't think my mom was going to get in a hunting. And never? You were never, your secret was never revealed? No. Okay. She only got mad at me once for seeing that I took a Victoria's Secrets catalog up to my room before it got to like the kitchen mail slot. It went straight into the hunting and fishing? Yeah. I brought it up. It's like, don't worry, I only cut out Elle McPherson. She's the most choice woman in this Victoria's Secret. Oh no, that was me. That was the swimsuit. Yeah, the swimsuit. The swimsuit was Al McPherson, not the Victoria's Secret. Holy cow. We did it.
21:18Is the show over? I don't know what else to say. I feel like I went into a fugue state about one hour ago. Wow.
21:31So what I'll say about this movie is the title is misleading. The title is a little bit misleading. My boyfriend's back. He is not her boyfriend. I would say, and this is the thing that bothers me, like, I am on board for this movie, but he is a straight-up creepo. Yes, I actually, yes, you're right. I wish, my only problem with it, was that I wish they had let go of this idea of her believing he actually died for her. Because he didn't, yes, he died throwing himself in front of that bullet, but he didn't believe at that point that that was a real scenario because he had staged it. Right, and that, I want to go back one step and go, he is a creep.
22:21He staged a robbery? He knew it at that point, but he had already staged. He sees his friend being like, no, no, it's not me. I know, but he had still staged a... Sure. And I just found it troubling that she never seemed to know that he had staged this really scary event for her. Yeah, that kind of gets pushed under the rug. And it's a weird thing because... You're saying scary event and I would say romantic event. Okay, so that's a difference. And in 1987, when this movie was made, this was the height of romance. But I'm like, sweetie, don't feel so badly for him. Like, he would never have even been there.
23:02I guess she would be dead. But like, I don't know, actually. I don't think that guy would have taken his gun out I think had it been there Can I tell you why she would have been dead? Because she's reaching behind her To get like a bat This man has a gun That bat ain't gonna do anything Just give the money Give the money And you guys can keep chatting when this person leaves I mean, and I will say that again I want to talk about the creepiness of our lead Our lead, Andrew Johnny Dingle Johnny Dingle don't even you need to look at the papers i can tell you johnny dingle right now johnny dingle heartbreaking to me johnny dingle dies a virgin twice heartbreak but you know this is what i sort of i miss the i know the virginity movie well sorry sorry i miss the days in which teenagers were 37 yes like that these i really miss the Andrew Zucker's I missed the the old yeah the old teens and that's what I did find comforting I really do I found it so comforting watching this movie Johnny Dingle was the same age if not older than her dad Johnny Dingle Johnny Dingle 23 the woman 25 yeah as all teen movies should be yeah agreed but when he wakes up out of bed I was like oh because it starts with him as a child and he's lusting after this girl he's not lusting he's in love with her well she doesn't seem to even talk is it a Halloween birthday party I don't know he's wearing a fireman's hat everyone else is in costume the birthday girl is not I think that was just her wish to see everyone else in a different professional uniform.
25:01And why? They were shooting composites that day. Why is this movie told in the style of a comic book? I don't know, but I was thrilled it was. It made those awkward transitions sing. It was a really odd choice because, and I understand that there is a tradition of old, of like maybe horror comic books, but it was an odd choice because there's no horror in the comic book at all. The comic book is really just doing transitions. It's like we couldn't afford to shoot it. So that's odd. So we wake up, old man in a bed. We're believing that he's a child, even though he looks the same age as his dad.
25:41And then his parents are like, don't cut through that woman's lawn. And I'm like, okay, I'm in, I'm on board. And then he just doesn't cut through her lawn. Like he destroys it. He doesn't actually. he destroys her flower bed which is so much weirder. Well, yes. And that to me, I was like, oh, great way to not like this character right out the gate. But the problem is I've already decided to like him because when he opens his closet, there is a juggling game in there. And I was like, this guy's cool as hell. I was obsessed with that. I was like, what is juggle? Yeah. I love that both of us were like, what's the game juggle?
26:23And then when they had the reverse shot, I saw the back of Juggle game. And I just immediately paused it because I assumed it said Juggle. And I was like, there's got to be boobs here. I bet if I pause, there's going to be Juggs on this. You have to listen. You have to listen and be ready. I spent like an hour frame by framing the Juggle. So, I guess what I'm getting to ultimately is if you don't change a single frame of this movie why don't you just start off the character as a likable shy guy who then gets shot not because he's set up an elaborate like hoax robbery like everything that he does in the beginning sets him up as a creep where I think it would be more endearing if he's just nice I think you're right except that back then we didn't have creeps
27:23back then we didn't have creeps we didn't know this was creep behavior well right it just seemed like you if you're a guy and you're in love with a girl who's been dating matthew fox for six years they are in high school what's going on there who's had a boyfriend for six years you have to stage some sort of elaborate prank hoax violent thing in order to get her attention I also found it interesting that the movie makes so many interesting choices. And one is to not make Matthew Fox a villain, really. No. Like, he seems like a nice guy in the beginning. You know? I never had an issue with him.
28:05He's kind of a dick, but not so, so much. I guess no more so than our main character. Well, I mean, the dick of the movie is the surprise of the film. Philip Seymour Hoffman. Or as he's credited, Philip Hoffman. Oh, really? No Seymour in the credits. Yes. Oh, I didn't see that. I just saw it at the beginning. And I have to say, he explodes on the screen. Incredible. I've never, I always, I think maybe the first time I ever saw him was Big Lebowski for me. Oh, not Scent of a Woman? Maybe I'm Scent of a Woman. Because he's playing a similar character in Scent of a Woman. Oh, then I must have, but I don't even remember.
28:46Okay, yeah. So I remember, I mean, not that I was registering, but I remember him being like the funny, kooky ski dude. Oh, okay. And I was like, oh, wow, what an interesting moment that he, like, turned. Like, because, well, just listen. Fuck, what are you doing? What is this? It's clown work. I'm sorry. I'm an idiot. Like, the way he's holding his body, the way his hat is. Look at where his eyes are. Yeah. he looks like a character from andy cap and bazooka joe i mean it is look at his hair coming out of his hat up there like this is comedian level performance and immediately he is just acting everybody off the screen he is denim on denim and uh here we go well no kidding you stand
29:42See, I believe that.
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29:49Look at Philip Seymour Hoffman.
30:03What's up, Dingle? Nice sit. See you, Johnny. Now it is. I'm looking at nothing. Dirtbag.
30:17Wow. It's a straight line from that to the talented Mr. Ripley. It's incredible. Wow. Truly. I mean, yeah. Sometimes you see it and you're like, oh, there it is. It's right there. It doesn't matter what it's in service of. Yes. It's just electric to watch. Thank you, Bob Balaban. Bob Balaban had the eye. I love that it's Balaban. I love Bob Balaban. Everybody, every adult in the movie is a Balaban-level character actor. Yeah. It's J.O. Sanders. It's Richard Gilmore. It's Austin Pendleton. Everybody, all the adults are Chorus Leachman. One scene. One scene with Chorus Leachman, and it's electric.
31:00And his mom, Mary Beth Herp, was amazing. Amazing. The fact that she keeps bringing him first a toddler to eat. I laughed so hard. And then a cadaver is so funny. Well, this movie feels to me like a John Waters version of Teen Wolf. I feel like that's what they're going for. Paul Dooley? Come on. And this is the thing I can't quite figure out because all the actors seem to be on the same page. He's directing them all. but I feel like maybe it didn't push far enough. Maybe it did. I don't know. I loved that nobody questioned it beyond, wait a minute, didn't you die? Yeah. Okay, you're here now.
31:44And I loved that it didn't slow itself down to try and work it out, that it just was like, let's keep going, because the story we're telling is not about this. But he didn't really question it either, which I thought was interesting. I thought for sure someone's going to, and it's him. I actually, I found it fascinating that he became more likable when he was dead. Once he had something to contend with and an identity that sort of othered him, we had to root for him. Well, yeah, I think you're right. And I think that this movie just kind of finds ways to always go in a slightly different direction that you don't need to go into.
32:20Because, yes, he comes back from the dead. Now, sure, would it be interesting to give it the smallest amount of explanation? I wouldn't have minded it, but sure, we don't need it. especially when that grave digger seems to know a lot more than he's letting on. Murray? Yeah. Murray the grave digger? Would love Murray to be like, yeah, just give me one more line of exposition. We're halfway there. But he stops himself from even explaining. He's like, ah, hello. Eh, you'll find out. Eh, you'll find out in the rest of the movie. So then he goes to the doctor, who was great. The doctor, and the doctor...
32:51So great. So great. So great. Incredible stuff from Austin Pendleton. Austin Pendleton. I mean, it was really amazing. The movie, let's be clear, would be unwatchable, but for the adults. Well, they're all adults, including that toddler. Yes, true. Well, and like, and what this is, but then like he goes to the doctor and he's like, yeah, you got to go see this old woman, Maggie. Like, why? Why are we making another scene for him to go to her, for her to go, yeah, my husband did it too, and he eats dead people. Like, just have Austin Pennington go, yeah, he eats dead people. I'm surprised. I feel like you didn't like this movie.
33:35Yeah, just go out and say it. Be so for real right now. Be so for real. You're holding it to a stand? Is it just because it's so much like Teen Wolf without the tickle my paws moment? There is never a moment in here where they told me to pause the film. And I feel like that, well, these movies owe that to me. It's PG-13. And I expected something. No, and I think, like, I guess what I was getting frustrated by was, like, the overcomplication of things. It's like, no, no, it's simple. It's easy. Like, I don't have any problem with the guys coming out with guns, the mom killing people, him eating a child.
34:11But, like, why are we, like, detouring? I do think, yes. I think that once Austin Pendleton's nurse said, who, by the way, is his wife, who announced, like, almost two hours into the film, just appeared. I hadn't seen her before. I don't know if she was a character. I don't think so. Appeared as though we knew her and said, you know, we're going to be making a youth serum. I thought, well, this is definitely a shitload of money. This is definitely just a new plot. Yep. You know, that we're going to have to contend with. this late hour. In a movie that's an hour and 25 minutes, that comes in about an hour and 15.
34:50You're right. And even the end, I rewound it three times. When he goes to heaven, I'm like, what's going on? Well, because you were trying to see nudity? Yeah. Well, I thought when St. Peter was like, took on my balls. No, but I was like, he was supposed to slip on coffee. I'm lost here. I'm lost. You are trying to make sense out of... So you're trying to, you're applying too rigorous a logic to this. Well, I'm saying it's like, it's like this movie should be a straight line. I'm like, how about now we put a knot here? And you're like, why? Why do I need a knot? Just go to heaven and be like, you know what?
35:27You learned your lesson. Go back down. I don't need him to go like, oh, he's supposed to slip on a pot of coffee. And he gets shot. I'm like, okay, all right. But why did that happen? Why? What I still, I guess, I didn't get to is what was the mistake exactly. That he was supposed to slip on the... No, I know. Stop saying that. I know. But...
35:53I know he was supposed to slip on the coffee, but... You're not going to my Field and Stream magazine. I'll tell you that. Wow. It just became unchoice. But... I guess that just felt so random. I couldn't accept it. Like I almost wanted Murray to have done something wrong or for him to have, you know, because he set up this entire plan or because he didn't give her the necklace that something I don't know. There was a better device in there that wasn't used. The fact that he's wearing the locket when he gets sent back, which stops the bullet, is, I will say, insanity. It is, because... And if I'm her, and he takes the bullet, and she's like, oh, this stops it.
36:49It's a heart-shaped locket with a picture of me as a five-year-old in it. I would shoot him. I would say, give me that gun. It's the only answer. Let me shoot this guy. But also in the world of the movie, that present is locked away in his closet. Next to Juggs. But we are to assume because he's gone to heaven and stood trial and they've sent him back, that God put that locket on him. And again, and then... The Christian God. Obviously. And then he goes back down.
37:32I said it. Goes back down to have the final dance, and guess what I want? My boyfriend's back. Dance to my boyfriend's back. I agree. Nope. Again, simple choices, that's all. In a slightly better executed version of this movie, there would have been a band from that era doing a ska cover of My Boyfriend's Back. 100%. It would be like Fishbone doing My Boyfriend's Back. You're not going to get from me like, I didn't like when the mom threw the peanut butter or the bologna and mustard. Love it. No issue with it. On board. But kind of want some other things in here, too. Like, again. I love that they also didn't really grieve for him.
38:17Not at all. No. Not at all. It was in some ways healing. Just to be like, oh, sometimes grief is not that big of a deal. And also, and you know what? it felt like they didn't give in to that level of grief because they knew he was coming back. They knew that he was probably going to show up tomorrow, which is when he arrives. They just buried him yesterday. Paul Dooley's son is killed and Paul Dooley is like, my son's dead. And you're about to eat my other son. His other son is in there. When that is revealed to be his other son. So funny.
38:58The one logic issue I had, the one, was that he would have started to smell very badly. Oh, yeah. When she bites his ear and it falls off in her mouth. Great. I was like, finally, this movie has arrived. And by the way, she's kind of. Unfazed. Yeah. Loves it. She's, in fact, I think turned on. She is incredibly turned on by his decomposing body. Yes. And he pays no attention to him until he's dead. And then she's like, what's your deal? Yeah, you're different. The ultimate bad boy is one that doesn't have a heartbeat. Isn't that the tagline? Nope.
39:42I was obsessed with this movie that it reminded me of. Anyone ever see Dead Heat? Great movie. Joe Piscopo gets killed in the line of duty, comes back as a zombie and his body parts are falling off too to solve a crime. So that's why you didn't like this movie because you love this other zombie movie. Piscopo. I don't like breaking it down that way. The first syllable Piscopo. Piscopo. This is the tough thing about this movie. Is it a metaphor? I'm actually really mad at you Paul because I came in here loving it and now I'm turning on it and it's not even me. You can't shake my love. Yeah, good.
40:23I need to get back there because I'm getting – All right. I'm with you. But what I will say, though, is that you are – we're referring to him as a zombie, but there's never any like mental decay or zombie-esque behavior other than, of course, wanting to eat people. But there's no other sense really of him behaving or having any physicality of a zombie. I wanted him to kill Philip Seymour Hoffman. Like Philip Seymour Hoffman putting an axe in his own head I'm like And what did happen there It was just the weight of it kind of took him back He just took it back He hit himself in the back of the head Which made no sense I feel like that was them not wanting our hero guy to murder But to be able to eat human flesh But the last line of the movie is I wish I would have killed that guy Yeah I know Tough stuff My understanding of zombies though is that they like dot dot dot brains not so much flesh he ate he ate his belly oh i know he ate his stomach they keep saying he ate he ate the stomach um but don't zombies eat brains isn't that their whole thing brains brains right i don't know that about them so i couldn't i don't anyway um so that that was interesting to me just mythologically to introduce a new a new thing.
41:48That was interesting. But I have a feeling on this. They couldn't introduce brains because they didn't have the effects budget to do brains. I bet you're right. Because like when Philip Seymour Hoffman is on that table. Well, they don't even have the effects budget to show him eating flesh. No. He just goes down off camera and comes up with a little a little bit of blood. Like he ate a burger with too much ketchup. I wrote here, this tone isn't done anymore. That's what I'm saying. And that's what I want. It's like Heather's and John Waters. Oh, I didn't know that. It reminded me of Buffy. It reminded me of Buffy, a world in which these supernatural elements are not really explored too much other than their ability to give us, to let us tell a story, a coming of age story, a whatever.
42:34Sure. Anyway, you get it. And that's what it reminded me of. But I guess that's my other question. What is this a metaphor for? I think there's both a puberty story in here. Okay. Puberty? He's 25 years old. But then there is the story of their unholy romance. The idea that everybody is so looking down on them and that she's involved with a zombie, the undead. I do think, God, now I don't like the movie anymore. I'm so mad. Because I think you're, I know, I don't know what happened tonight, but I think what you're right about is what has he learned? Nothing. Right. You know, he has. What has the town learned?
43:19Nothing. I think that what I wish for him is that he had started off as someone who wasn't willing to try and put himself out there and be brave enough to fail and be vulnerable enough to, you know, tell her how he feels. But yet the first scene he's like, you smell good, you smelly smell. Yeah, I know. You know, it's like, it's like, oh, creepy creep. Yeah, and then he does stage this elaborate thing. Now, when I did that to you, did you find that romantic? I thought you were a choice man.
44:00Choice. Oh, my God. Choice. I think you really have to decide to be on this movie's wavelength. You do. You have to be on board for J.O. Sanders screaming, you are not taking my daughter to the prom, you stupid dead son of a bitch. Great line. And by the way, here's the thing about our lead actor. Even though the movie and the writing and the story doesn't do him any favors, I did find him to be inherently watchable and like buoyant and likable. And so I do think he carries a storyline that's kind of not there. I agree. I feel like given the material that he had, he made some choices. is I think he is likable, but you're right.
44:47He's more likable when he's the zombie, but he hasn't really learned anything because when he goes back to school, his friend is his friend. Like in Teen Wolf, the fun thing about Teen Wolf is... Here we go. Take on my paws. Here we go. We know. We've heard you say it. It's that it's spoke to you. But it's like the idea being like, here's a nerdy kid. He's not very good in basketball. You know, no one pays attention to him. he becomes the wolf and then he's like you know break dancing on trucks scoring a bunch of baskets in the basketball game the hot girl likes him you know and it's like oh popularity isn't all it's cracked up to be like i actually like being with my friends better here he becomes a zombie keeps the same friends and then the girl that he likes is this kind of like into like dead bodies like she's into necrophilia i think you're right actually because he says there's that moment where he says like, I don't just like you because you're popular.
45:42I don't just like you because you're pretty. I'm like, well, that's all I see. Like, I don't know why you like her, actually. No, no reason. I know. He likes her for the five-year-old within. I don't like that. It's a real rollercoaster with this audience. Put it on a shirt. Put it on a shirt. Alright, let's go to the audience. Let's hear the audience has to say. Here we go. Alright, so I know there's a lot of interesting things to talk about in this movie. We've broached a handful, but there are other things left to be said. hi what's her name nick nick what's her question i guess going off what you were just saying since she wasn't into him until after uh he died and the death is sort of a stand-in for like an otherism is she like fetishizing him for his identity at all well i mean that's what i was thinking too it's like she just straight up likes the smell of dead skin yeah i think it's as simple as that I think she wants to fuck him till his dick falls off.
46:36I think she wants to, I think she wants that. I do. I think she's like, I think she's kind of like, previous to, he's just Johnny Dingle, who cares? And then she's like, have you seen Johnny Dingle since he died? He's smoking. I will say that the dick falling off scene and the sex judging scene. The dream sequence. The dream sequence. Both disturbed me. like I got it from a comedic standpoint but I was just like ugh too much like watching him crawl all over her in those like little heart shorts by the way I wrote that too there was something about this era in which in all of film young teenage boys were always represented as having boxer shorts with hearts on them yeah I had those you had them?
47:25yeah I was going to say I've never even seen that I had a real issue with my boxer shorts because they were so hard to get in my jeans. I had to really push them down. I wasn't even allowed to have boxer shorts. Oh, really? Oh, no, I was tighty-whities all day. Once. Wow. In, like, teenage years? Also, boxers weren't popular exactly until a little bit later. Well, once Bill Clinton said he wore boxers, I was all in it. That was it. Now, did he say that, and then you paused it, and were like, wait a minute. And I saw him. I had that device. I saw him waist down and pair boxers. Look great. Heart boxers.
48:05Hi, what's your name? Sam. Sam, what's your question? Maybe I missed it in the prom scene at the very end when he comes back to life. Did Philip Seymour Hoffman not come back? So he is alluded to as being alive. What? I'm sorry. Is Philip Seymour Hoffman dead in this alternate reality? Wait, what? Oh, I'm sorry. Right at the end. Yes, he must be alive. I didn't see him in there. He says in the voiceover, like, the only thing I wish is that I killed Buster or whatever his name was. Buck, which is Matthew Fox. Oh. Buck is Matthew Fox. I was wondering where he was. He wasn't in the background. You're right.
48:42He wasn't in the scene. But if we do, if he sees St. Peter and they get sent back to the robbery scene, then nothing after the robbery scene has taken place. He goes back to the beginning, right? Well, who knows? What do you mean, who knows? I don't think you can say who knows. We know. We watched it. Well, we weren't with Matthew Fox or Philip Seymour Hoffman that night. We don't know what's going to happen. They might have died that night, but the events of the don't gaslight me on stage. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't know. Do your research. I don't like both of you teaming up to gaslight me. Didn't he say at one point when he was in front of St.
49:23Peter, like, oh, and I didn't mean to kill Buck. Didn't he say that? He said I didn't mean to eat him. He does say he wish he killed Buck, meaning when his buddy says, I know what you should do. When Buck comes to pick her up for the prom, you should kill and eat him. Wear his suit and take her to the prom. He doesn't do that. Good plan. And later in the movie, he says, I wish I'd done that plan. Right? Well, that's crazy. That's concerning. He's a creep. Yes. He's a creep. Hi, what's your name? You really want him to be? Hi, I'm Jessica. To June's point of Matthew Fox's buck, you're saying he's not a villain, and it's true because what it seems to me is this girl who's supposed to be the sweetest, loveliest, most beautiful, popular girl in the school that's nice to everybody is essentially now cheating on her boyfriend who has done nothing wrong.
50:16In fact, she agreed to go to the prom with him. He came and did this grand gesture. They apologized to each other, and his friend's an asshole, but he hasn't done anything wrong. And there's nothing to say that he lied about not showing up for her. I also do believe his car broke down and he had to walk. Maybe that makes me a fool. I don't believe that for a second. Here's what I don't believe. Anything coming out of the mouth of anyone wearing a Letterman jacket. If you're wearing a Letterman jacket in a teen movie in 1987, facts, you are a villain. But that's why I was confused, because I didn't have any of those feelings for Matt.
50:59And I do agree believe men. Always. I agree with June on that. That's a shirt. Believe men.
51:12Believe men on the back tickle my paws. What's your name? What's your question? Hi, my name is Anthony. I just wanted to ask more about the mom and the plates with the dog. I don't know how many people noticed that, the bit running in that. Okay, tell us the bit because I don't think we did. Okay, the first time the mom is serving breakfast, the dog just snatches all the food off the plate. Yes, takes all the eggs. Oh, that's the second time. The first time. Yeah, June. Sorry, June. Hey, June, that's the second time. I believe men. Hey, let's believe this man. Go on. Wow. I believe him. This guy's fired up.
51:50I just want to say sorry to June. Wow. June, do you feel safe? It looks like bagels or toast, but the dog just takes it. The mom's like, all right, and sets the plate. Okay, so the dog is eating all the food. It's a funny bit. I laughed at the eggs. I didn't see the first one. Thoughts? Well, I do think that it's leading to what ends up happening, which is the dog takes the body and pulls it from the fridge. I think what we're setting up is that this dog will eat anything, anywhere, anytime, any day. And I love it. And that's the rich text that is this movie. There are things happening. Listen to what the movie's telling you.
52:32There are things happening that we didn't even pick up on that it takes a man in the audience to illustrate. Thank you. Finally a man asking question. And explain it as only a man can. By barking it at us. Here's what I wish, because some of these movies of this time, although I guess we don't know what time it was after all, 93. Well, we do know what time it was. Here's the thing. Here's my question about 93. Was this movie made in 93, though, as a period film to feel like 87? No. God damn it. It's crazy. I agree. Because what's important to me about movies, well, the movies I saw when I was 13 and pretty, a lot of Molly Ringwald like what was important to me about those women was that they were I wanted him to let go of her as an idea wouldn't that be great and a concept and find like when I saw him sitting next to that girl and staring at her arms in the library I thought well who's she?
53:34I mean he's looking at her because he wants to eat her I know he wants to eat her he wants to chomp chomp chomp down on those arms but that was a very important narrative to me to like I thought that she had a strong sense of self. See past this vapid girl. I'm sorry? I thought she had a strong sense of self. The library girl. The girl in the library? Because she didn't allow him to eat her? Wow. Okay. Now that's interesting. Expand on that. She just was like, hey, back off, man. And I thought she just held her. She wasn't like, I'm a nerd. You can eat me. No, I guess she wasn't. The only flaw I see with the movie is that I don't even understand what he's still doing at school.
54:17I don't either, but... Let's be clear. If I'm dead, I am not going to school. It seems like he just wants to go hang out with that girl. Yes, and find her elsewhere. I guess what I'm saying is that I felt like there were movies that let go of the idea of the hot girl who had nothing else to offer but being hot and popular. And I thought by 93. We had done our time with that, and that's what wrestling with. The idea that I'm in college when this movie comes out is Stone Cold Chili. Yeah, and I was 13. I'm a lot younger. Go on, Paul. Next person. Wow. I was just getting my period. Savage flex from a choice woman.
55:02Well, now, no one brought up this fact, and I'm surprised L.A. Now, you might want to say brace yourself Sorry, you might not want to say it I'm going to say to you, brace yourself Wait, so who's saying brace yourself? I'm saying I just want to be clear Just so, as we're cutting it together So who do you want to say brace yourself and when? Because for us to say brace yourself Brace yourself We don't know to Yeah, well Hang on a second Hang on a second So you guys go, three, two, one. Brace yourself. No, I have to say to you. No, I have to say to you. You're not presenting to me, I'm presenting to you.
55:45Brace yourself. We're going to go on a little bit of a dream. Wait, let's do one thing. Will you just do it? Will you guys on three just say, you brace yourself? One, two, three. You brace yourself. No. You brace yourself.
56:03Okay. You brace yourself. No. You brace yourself. You brace yourself. Listen to me right now. You better brace yourself because I will not. I will not do it. You know what? I will. I'll brace myself. You did it. Wow.
56:36Wow. By the way, you guys got a good one. Oh, God. People have asked, what happened to the lead actress in this movie, Tracy Lind? I'm going to tell you. Oh, God. Brace yourself. I am actually, I am bracing myself. Okay. Tracy Lind? This is the actress in the movie. In 1997, Lind went public with accusations of physical abuse regarding her boyfriend, Dodi Fayyad. she claimed that they were physical with each other and he threatened her with a 9mm Beretta when she rejected his proposal. Two weeks later, Dodie died in a car accident with his new partner, Princess Diana.
57:26You're a star cell.
57:33I couldn't, honestly, I didn't brace myself enough. With all that, I didn't get brace. Consider me brace. Wow! Wow! And then the final part is after his passing, Lind retired from acting, stating, I'm an intensely private person, so this whole acting thing was just the wrong path for me. Lights? I have to go. Show's over? Tickle my paws? How do you come back from... Wow! I'm just... I just... I can't wrap my head around this. It's a... In a million years, I couldn't have come up with that. Who played her in the Princess Diana movie that we did? Just go over the timeline with me. Okay. So she's engaged in him.
58:29So this movie is made in 93. In 97... I'm 13. Jason's in college. Go on. Yes. in 97 in 97 she is dating Dodi Fayyad she goes out and says hey this guy's been abusive to me in 97 she's saying these things she's dating him yes and then two weeks after that this guy dies in 98 right two weeks two weeks after she went public Dodi died in a car accident with his new partner Princess Diana this changes everything wow Oh, there's a little more. Okay, hold on. Who said that? You did? Oh, well, I knew you had it. All right. All right, great. Get that guy out of here. I say that. I do that bit. What do we got?
59:20So when Chuck, Philip Seymour Hoffman, is chasing Johnny with a baseball bat, Eddie comes out, and he's reading People magazine, and Princess Di and Charles' divorce is on the magazine. Okay, but that's just pure coincidence, right? Here's my theory. Here's my theory. Dodie was having trouble in his relationship with Tracy, was watching this movie and saw that Di was on that cover, single, ready to mingle, and then she dies. Wait, do we know, though, for sure that Dodie and Tracy were dating during the film? Yes, was that during this period? Do we know that? Oh, no, I think he was just re-watching it, trying to...
1:00:00Oh, God. Do you think he was watching it for the pod? What I'm saying is... Knowing that in the future we would cover it? Could be. I thought you said pause. I genuinely thought you said pause. And I was like... Pause the episode right now to see Jason naked. And if you're listening to the podcast, do pause. pause during the pod because there is nudity i want to i want to agree with this story and say they're dating and he's like well what do you do and she's like i'm an actress and she's like well what have you been in she's like my boyfriend's back let's watch it then sees that magazine gets that idea and then we move on how many years later is that though like three years later oh oh okay okay three four years later i see i see i see wow you know what by the time it's on home video this has been maybe the biggest bombshell since katherine heigl replaced megan markle in oh yeah suits was that it was that it i don't think she replaced i think we were just figuring out how many members of the royal family were in suits or connected to some there was some reveal that similarly i feel like threw me entirely off track for days well i mean a A couple of things, I mean, I can get you back to some stuff and say that the movie was originally offered to Peter Jackson.
1:01:28He turned it down. And then they gave it to another guy, Adam Marcus. But then Disney was like, he's too young. And so he went on to go make Jason Goes to Hell the final Friday. And then they bring in Bob Balaban. But they kind of dangle the script in front of Bob Balaban for months. And then they go, why don't you go shoot this thing? and give him two weeks' notice to shoot the movie. And he nailed it. He did. Yes. Maybe it should be Bob... You know how they have those shirts, like a film by Albert Brooks, or, you know, a film? It should be like a film by Bob Balaban. Maybe you should make that...
1:02:06By the way, I would love it. Okay, so... Oh, man. As we digest... I don't... I'm not recovered. Are we... Are we... Let me ask a real question. Are we okay? Are we safe? No. All right. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions. Hi, I'm Kelsey. My boyfriend's back, but wait, he's not my boyfriend. Hey, la, hey, la, he's not my boyfriend. He's kind of obsessed and never had the balls to talk to me Hey la, hey la, I'm with Matthew Fox He dove in front of Bullet for me Hey la, hey la, sure I'll go to prom I never expected him to come back from the grave Hey la, hey la, he's kind of cute He's starting to rot and we're making out in his car Hey, la, hey, oh, his ear fell off.
1:03:19Hey, that's kind of the whole plot. Hey, there's Philip Seymour Hoff. After all the hijinks and he makes it to the prom, he goes right to the afterlife. Johnny finds out that he should have never died, so they sent him back to the start. We're back at the beginning with the botch robbery. Hey, la, hey, I'm almost done. Almost?
1:03:53This is a recap, madam. Hey, I'm getting it five stars. Hey, the mom was the best part. My time was fun and it was a silly ride. Hey, la, hey, how did this get made? Amazing. Great, great job.
1:04:21That was good because it reminded me of a lot of, if not all of the plot. Yeah, it was great. Good refresher at the end of the show. There are 1 ,250 reviews of this film. 82 % are five star. Now, I will tell you this much. There's a review here. I will not read it in full, but I need to give you just a taste of it. It is from Dr. Jacques Coulardot from July 7, 2012. I'm going to read a middle paragraph and the last paragraph. Okay. School teachers and other school personnel are just what they are, a school of cold fish that stink high heavens like rotting salmon in a polluted river. And I will not say what happens to the trout in the lake.
1:05:08dead fish can also be zombies but then do they not have fish bones in their bodies rather perlambulating decaying radiations like in nuclear radiations don't touch it burns now that's the middle paragraph it goes on and i'll read the final paragraph the film is funny though of course not as funny as michael jackson's rewriting of the night of the living dead it is true here that we have the prom of the living dead mixing with the dead living that sounds more romantic than terrifying but it is horrifyingly gross times and shakespearean at others they even have the balcony scene of romeo and juliet revisited for young zombies with decaying muscles i wonder where the three weird sisters are.
1:05:56Ah, ha, ha, ha, ha. Three times, of course. Five stars. It takes the delirium tremens of the dead. So if you want to read the nine-paragraph review, we'll put that up on the website. And my understanding is that's what you do in auditions? Yes, I read that now. You just do that review? I read all these things in here, yeah. It says, poor Dingle was a dongle in his life and as a zombie. What? Yeah, it's great. But that does suggest, and I'm shocked none of us have brought it up, Thriller being another kind of zombie, Ooh, yeah. Romantic zombie, of course, dancing that this movie did not have. But, like, that's another very totemic zombie portrayal in this era, 1987.
1:06:44Then Jay Bordelon, in 2001, writes, Well, first of all, What's up?
1:06:56i love this movie with a passion and i've seen it at least 40 times but last night i rented it for the 41st and i noticed something i never noticed before the name of the song they danced to at the end of the movie i had my closed captioning running and all of a sudden it pops up hanging on for dear life by m mc now i was thinking that m mc stood for mickey mouse club but i don't think in this case it does also comment to other amazon reviewers i know too much more than anybody about movies and music but if you want to know the name of a song or something and you got to leave your email address in the review so people can write you back well peace and love and chicken grease bye bye bye bye bye
1:07:51and again i would argue that these reviews happened at the end don't know wait do you think that bye bye bye was like uh backstreet boys well wait who's saying bye bye bye and sync he did you gotta email him he did leave his email address in the review so you could be like well what is mmc like i guess he was asking you to like say like i'm not gonna tell you here I'm not going to tell you what MMC is let's take this offline and you know every now and then we do one star reviews first opinions these are people who don't like the film and I wanted to call out this one written by Shelley this movie would be fine if they didn't use the lord's name in vain a total waste of money if you're like me and find that very offensive.
1:08:48We don't watch anything with foul, spelled F-O-W-L, language. We don't watch anything with foul language or G-D in it. One star, disappointed. There's no issue with the resurrection of a non-Christlike figure. But really has a problem with them using Christian God's name. I also have to agree. Well, we know we all recommend it. Yeah. Although I feel like you are a no. I'm a yes. I'm a yes, but I would love a simpler pass on it. Like, I just would love it to be streamlined a little bit. Like a nerdy kid who realizes something. Here, he realizes nothing. He gains nothing. When he goes back and asks her out, he's still asking her out with like he saved her life so she's like oh yeah I'm indebted to you but the only reason why she's impressed is like wow he saved my life I feel like you need to have something more to build a relationship on it's not much of a hero's journey I mean all that's true but it's so much fun I mean this movie to me was just good old fashioned fun and I do appreciate a comedy that's going to take take a strong comedic premise point of view and just play it out beat by beat.
1:10:18We don't make those types of movies anymore. And despite your concerns, I really wish, I wish we did. I really like, I watched this and I was like, oh, I'm craving this kind of dumb. Everybody's committed. Everybody's on the same page. Everybody knows what the game is. and we're all just like continuing to build it out. I really miss these movies and I really enjoyed it. Agree. Agree wholeheartedly. This movie is a home run for me. And the idea that this is not, like that kids don't have a this to watch. And maybe they do and I just don't know what it's called and it's on YouTube and everybody farts into a can and everybody's like, you smelt it.
1:11:02I don't know. I like that one. But this to me is, boy, what a blast. Why does comedy have to be so real now? Boring. Yes. Yes, I agree completely. Dramedy has killed comedy. For real. Yeah. It has. It's true. And I miss these movies. I miss these movies from the John Husey versions of these to the Teen Wolves to this to the B-movie like this version of it. Like Dead Heat. This is a blast. I will watch Dead. Let's do Dead Heat. I would like to do Dead Heat on the show. Put it on the docket. we absolutely should do it because that's this treat williams joe piscopo comedy legends maybe let's not do dead i actually think that treat williams is the one who's the zombie right don't scold me sorry prepare yourself brace yourself brace yourself um yeah no i you brace yourself.
1:11:58Okay, fine. I recommend it 100%. This was, and I will say this, Paul, your criticisms though they may be valid, it didn't interrupt me from enjoying this movie at all. Full stop. And that's where I will say while I had criticisms, I enjoyed the movie. And I enjoyed what it did. What'd you say? I said I know you did. Oh yeah. the only way the movie could be better would be nudity well we just got to figure out when they're telling us to pause it yeah and it would have been great if like when his dick falls off and rolls down his his pajama pants if it fell out and we saw it we all want to know what dingle's dangling we all want to know dingle's dangle tickle my paws uh what do we want this shirt to be a film by Bob Balaban.
1:12:56We wanted to be a Tickle My Paws to listen to men. Brian Orlando. Holy shit. Brian Orlando. Holy shit. Brian Orlando Electronics. And it's a... Brian Orlando Electronics. That's it. Yeah. I think... We could do Brian Orlando Electronics. Are we going to get... Okay. I'm not worried about getting sued by Brian Orlando. Okay. Come after me. Yeah. Everybody that Paul went to grade school with is dead anyway They all died in that mysterious gas leak Um, alright That's our show Holy shit, I just want to say T2B, this episode has been unhinged So great So great And well done You guys were part of a great episode What a fun one This was unreal And I only feel bad for the people that watched Ghosts of Mars last night Sometimes that's a hand you dealt A true dog shit movie Thank you so much for coming Sign up for the Largo mailing list Great shows here all the time Thank you to our staff, thank you to Molly, thank you to Scott Thank you to Cody, thank you to Quinn Thank you everybody, good night, bye bye Thanks for joining us for such a Choice episode And as always, a huge shout out to our pals at Largo, Flanny Griffey, Michael in the booth, and our recording engineer, Brendan Burns.
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1:15:05And as always, if you have a correction or omission from this episode, leave me a voicemail at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K or write a comment on our Discord at discord.gg slash hdtgm, and I'll respond to your messages on next week's last looks. People, I want to urge you, give that phone number a call. We get great calls, but we could always use more. Now, here's the thing. It's December, which means it is time for a How Did This Get Made annual tradition. Yes, we will once again be doing a virtual holiday show that you can watch live from anywhere in the world. And you bet Jessica St. Clair will be joining us for all the fun.
1:15:40And for the first time ever, we're going to be in the same location. That's right. We're going to be on the dark web set, which, by the way, if you've not been watching the dark web, you got to catch up. Our studio is burnt down. We are hallucinating in the middle of the woods. And this week we did a YouTube kids show version of the show. This is not a joke. This is not a bit. It is available on YouTube kids. It's also available on regular YouTube. But watch how Rob and I have to stay within the very specific lines of YouTube kids. It's a blast. Now, this show, the Christmas show that I'm doing with Jason, June, Jessica, we're going to be doing that live on December 10th.
1:16:15Tickets are available now at hdtgm.com. Get those tickets. It's going to be a real plus up. And by the way, if you like live events, Deep Dive is also doing a live event on December 5th. That's right. December 5th, you got your live streaming moments ready to go. Remember, if you're looking at gifts to give for the family, well, my book, Joyful Recollections of Trauma is available and you can get it signed. You'll get there probably in time for the holidays. Plus, Weapons is now out on HBO Max. Jason is in Man on the Inside Season 2, as well as Season 2 of Percy Jackson. And again, Taskmaster is available right now, his entire season on YouTube.
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Brace yourselves, 'cause Paul, June, and Jason are covering the "choice" 1993 teen horror rom-com My Boyfriend's Back starring Andrew Lowery, Traci Lind, and Matthew Fox. LIVE from Largo in L.A. they discuss Philip Seymour Hoffman's brilliantly unhinged performance, how Johnny Dingle is a straight up creepo, if Missy is horny for dead bodies, and so much more. Plus, Paul drops SEVERAL new wild childhood stories and reveals an unexpected historical connection to the movie that leaves everyone speechless.
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