No Holds Barred LIVE! w/ Thomas Lennon (HDTGM Matinee)

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24:16Maybe you haven't heard about my charity work. Word for word, that was the most usable take.

24:24Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, also such a shoehorn thing. Rip cares about the kids. He does charity. They never stop saying about the kids doing sports. And we'll tell you later on, because we do see him do his charity work, that the name of his charity is simply Sports for Kids. Well, the titling in this movie is pretty bad because... Just you fucking finish, it's Sports for Kids. Sports for Kids. And the TV network is called the World Television Network. Go, go, we only have 71 more hours to finish this screenplay. Keep going, keep writing, Vince. Keep writing, brother. You're right, it is Vince typing. So Kurt Fuller essentially is like, you have a price.

25:03Jason Mantzoukas:Everyone has a prize. Hulk says no, at which point Kurt Fuller, his next move is, Are you telling me my money isn't good enough for you? Immediately. Hey, Kurt, one more with some energy. Because this is a movie now. How are people going to know if you're mad, brother? Get as close to their face as you can. Brother, I want you in this thing, man. When we met that day at the Earth Cafe, I thought we were in this together. When we smoked that devil weed, brother. When we shared that jazz cigarette, brother. I didn't know you were going to phone it in. Hulk then proceeds to rip up the check, beat up everyone in his office.

25:55Jason Mantzoukas:Whoa, whoa, whoa. No, he rips up the check. He shoves it into Kurt Fuller's mouth. Yes. And he says, can I say it? Oh, it's so good. I won't be there when that clears and then I think that's when he gives this when he's exiting the room he gives the shocker like that was fun like it was sort of like it was his it wasn't like yeah I did it it was kind of like yeah that's my thing it's a film of casual attempted murder at 20 different points but here's the weird thing about Rip's character I you know why doesn't he want to go to the other network by the way it's not like it's not like let's really dig into this he doesn't work at like I didn't understand he doesn't live in like on a mountain with like monks he's on a different tv network that's what I'm saying he's under contract some and I'm yes and his word is his bond Kurt Fuller does said contracts are just words and I believe they they did say that his word is his bond like he's a faith I heard that his word is his bond.

27:01Take a leak. Why does he tell the lady to take a leak? It's the weirdest. It's the best thing I've ever heard. It's the weirdest thing. He tells her to take a leak and not too much, not too soon thereafter, a man does shit his own pants.

27:19Jason Mantzoukas:Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa, we can't get into that. Wait, wait, do you have this? Yeah, I got that. Okay, so what's the craziest performance of anything I've ever seen? Yes, this is truly, truly, truly erotic. So, the lights are down. I have so many things to say about this. I guess we should just set up the scene, because they have a little bit of the limo scene, too. So he shoves the check into Kurt Fuller's mouth. He says, I won't be there on that. Fully. Clears. Was that, did we get that? Got it, moving on. Check it, check it, Hulk, it's perfect. Check the game. Check it. Pranek. Then they put him in a death limo.

27:59Yes. A limo with all steel windows that have the steel

28:02Jason Mantzoukas:window function. And by the way, the World Television Network seems to be located in a very rural area. Yes. It's like the WWF. It's like in Fairfield, Connecticut. Also, their resources are that of Bond villains. I mean, maybe, I mean, I guess I was going to ask this question and I was like, of course he does does Rupert Murdoch have a limousine with steel gates and then I was like yep he probably does straight up murdering people I work for News Corp a lot he does the other thing is plan B in this movie is always murder yeah the first plan is go talk to him four seconds after that murder well you're forgetting the second step talk to him, yell at him murder but you do have a middle set Well, that's what's going to be my question because Hulk gets in the limo, the steel windows, etc., and then he fights the limousine.

29:02Yes. But why? Is the guy taking him somewhere? When he kicks the door from the inside, it makes the limousine careen off the roof. I'm not shitting you at all.

29:14Jason Mantzoukas:You will see it in this scene. His physical force in the backseat of a limousine moves it. it off the ground. Like you're driving like left to right. As if every punch and kick Hulk does is a punch to someone's face they need to react to. Only the reaction is coming from the driver of the car that he's in. In a totally safe steel box on the other side of him. Yes. I would like to see Mythbusters on this. Could this happen? You could get Hulk in a car. Alright, so here we go. So Mythbusters guys, Adam, Jamie, if you're listening, please come and do this episode. By the way, they need to do a whole no-holds-barred episode.

29:56Jason Mantzoukas:How long does this take for a check to clear? Here we go. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh!

30:11What's that smell? Jokey! Jokey!

30:29It's a spooky. That happened in this movie. I think I had this feeling when I was watching it, but I couldn't articulate it until now. I think the actor who says that line is wearing like a disguise. He's got a hairpiece on for sure. He has a hairpiece on, but it almost seems like he knew what he had to do. they had a hard time casting it and he was like I'll do it. I'll absolutely do it if I can wear a disguise. But by the way so he's shit literally I don't think his name is probably in the credit. Can you go back to what his pants look like? Because they're actually just soaked with water. Well that's what I wanted to talk about.

31:10The dookie is on the outside of his suit jacket.

31:14Jason Mantzoukas:The dookie is really vile looking. It's just wet. Go to the wide shot. I thought it was like diarrhea. Look how high up it goes. Look how high up it is. Guys, that's not dookie. But I thought it was a liquidy diarrhea, like, right? Or he pissed himself, and he shit himself, but if you pissed, it died in your butthole. How did he get hurt there, Paul? It goes up to his fucking shoulder blades. It's up here. His shoulder blades got their period. I feel like they were like they weren't confident in the line what's that smell it's Dookie like we need to show the audience we need to show it. But I guess I have to say why not put him in a lighter suit?

31:58Jason Mantzoukas:Like a white suit Like a white linen suit Everybody's a critic Fucking Monday morning quarterback they're looking at the dailies doing cocaine Can you guys tell it's Dookie? It looks like his shoulder blades pissed So anyway we want to have this scene It's a great fight scene. Hulk literally busts through a steel grate, lands on the top of a car, beats up all these guys. At the end, this guy shits his pants, and it's going to be a great scene. It's going to be a really great scene. It's interesting because it is when they introduce, without any discussion of it, that Hulk Hogan has superpowers.

32:32Yes. Oh, yeah. He's literally not from Earth.

32:35Jason Mantzoukas:He comes out like the Incredible Hulk. Yeah. And in that way, like, he pops out. Well, how about all of his facial craziness? They're like... And then he's like... He's like a feral animal. At the end of every day, they're like, Hulk, there's two pages we didn't get. So we're just going to roll just a ton of B-roll. And just, you're mad, you're neck, your eyes are big, you're neck, you're growling, you're mad, neck, growl, eye, growl, neck. I do imagine that this was a control Apple save moment when him and Vince McMahon came up with Dookie and they're like we did enough work for tonight let's go let's go down to the bar and meet some honeys in the next scene I think we meet Joan Severance right don't we go to the Hillbilly Bar pretty soon yeah that's next as well this is an interesting scene the scene where he's at his home network yes that's the next scene I believe John Severance is now running Where he meets Joan Severance.

33:39She's come in. She's like the new gal in town. She's his new, I believe she's his new, like, touring agent. Yeah, touring agent. Oh, okay. Like Rip, which is your, and he's like, oh, that's my character's name. Really? I'm Hulk Hogan. Wink, wink. Meet your new touring agent. Hulk, we're rolling on this. She knows who you are. Sorry. She called me Rip. She's pretty. I just want to make sure she knows it's me, Hulk. Hulkamania, brother. Hulkamania. I'm the star of the movie. You might recognize her from the cover of the Rio album. It's Joan Severance. And she comes in and she's no fucking nonsense.

34:15She's no nonsense, but he talks back to her and he gives her this. He says this to her. He goes, maybe we can talk about this later. And she goes, fine. Eight o 'clock. I'll pick you up. Dinner.

34:31Dressy. But everyone talks like this. Everybody talks like this. There's an abundance of periods. But I believe at one point he also mentions, why not ask me about my charity work? Me doesn't. Same. Again, fucking nailing it home. And I do understand why she had to clarify Dressy, because he wears his costume. Oh, do you have a still in it? I have. He wears the Saturday night fever suit minus the black shirt. I don't have that. Because he's nude with a white on white thing. and there's no headgear so it's just like the beautiful his locks and the pate it's an interesting meeting with the network because she just seems to want to talk about his character and sort of you know make sure they're branding him the right way and he doesn't want to talk about his character

35:20Jason Mantzoukas:well he doesn't seem to be there's any problem he's the number one wrestler in the world like why would they need to rebrand him but now I'm wondering like why did he even take the meeting at world news because he's a polite guy no He's a nice guy. If you invite Hulk for dinner, he'll come to your house. What the fuck's wrong with you people? And he accidentally said, okay. Oh, crap. I forgot my word. I also think the two networks have only one letter difference. So maybe he just got confused. He put it down. Because here's the weird thing. If you send a limo for Hulk, he'll get in it and go wherever you take him.

35:54He did say thank you for the ride. He did.

35:57Jason Mantzoukas:Until you try to kill him. It was the late 80s. People got in limos. It was fun. it's just odd because the stakes of this movie are really his allegiance to a huge corporation oh yeah well then they change those are the emotional stakes well yes oh no no then it's later it's gonna be about it's gonna be about his brother of course oh and and true love and true love they go out they go out to dinner in one of those cool abandoned churches it's actually it's it's actually my it's my favorite scene in the entire movie but it's very clear from the abandoned church that they're like Hulkster look we got the wrestling place here There's an abandoned church.

36:33We can put a bunch of tables in and we just fucking go. Everybody sound good with that? Fuck it. Good. Go. Shut up.

36:38Jason Mantzoukas:They start off on a stained glass window like an organ player, right? And then down to a beautiful restaurant. Beautiful? Beautiful. Beautiful, Jason. Beautiful. I'm going to put beautiful in quotes right now. The snooty maitre d'. Then there's like, it's literally 12 minutes of him humiliating the Hulkster. Well, this is, and this is what I was talking about. He goes to his French restaurant and you're like, as an audience, you're like, oh, this guy is so out of place. I mean, he doesn't know how to act. Oh, boy, oh, boy. He doesn't know how to act in French restaurant. He's a fucking wrestler.

37:09And this city guy comes in and says, all we have is poisson and coca-lava. And, oh, you would never understand in a million years. Maybe you want a hamburger American or a hot dog footlong. The hot dog de footlong. He just offers hot dog de footlong. And then offers it and then goes, we don't have that. and then the bus boys come out the bus boy has been waving to him the whole time

37:38Jason Mantzoukas:and standing not even a foot apart yeah they're right there that is the part I would have auditioned for

37:52and then of course the chef comes it was my favorite scene the chef comes out and says Why, pourquoi you not tell us that our friend Rip is here? Rip is so magnifique to see you.

38:07Jason Mantzoukas:He is such a loyal customer that they even say, do you want the regular? Yeah. And he says, de cord.

38:17That was, it's something like de cord. Yeah, bien sûr. Bien sûr, brother. That's what it is. Bongiorno. It was just like, you fucking think the Hulkster doesn't know French. Fuck you. But like if we look at this for a second, if everybody on staff recognizes Rip, why doesn't the Maitre D know? Well, because they do say the Maitre D is new. Right.

38:45Jason Mantzoukas:He said the Maitre D hadn't been there because if he was, he would know that Rip comes into that French restaurant all the time. I guess I got to say, though, you know. That's a good diet for a wrestler, too. French food? Yep. the maitre d is like really taking some liberties it's i guess his first day on the job yeah he's just assuming yes he's oh yeah horrible thing hulk is dressed up like hulk doesn't cut me me's in this movie he's wearing a lot of headbands and a lot of like onesies but he in this he you can see the outline and veins of his cock every single scene and it's the one scene where you cannot see actual veinage and like the pulsing of his heart from his dick.

39:31Like an E.T. where it's just like, you're like, wow, the whole pulse rate's gone up because his veins are throbbing in his dick.

39:39Jason Mantzoukas:Have you ever, if you haven't, you must, but has anyone ever seen the Hulk Hogan sex tape? Oh, yeah. I'm going to fill up my wine while we talk about this. Oh, yes. It is amazing, and in one part where he is fucking, he goes, ooh, shouldn't have that sushi. come on guys it just looks like honestly when i when i look at him in this movie it looks like it's uncomfortable to be him yes it's uncomfortable it looks like his body is going to explode and a smaller man is going to come out of it and be like oh thank god yeah i've been trapped in here for years it's been a horrible nightmare like quattro yeah june has a quattro in there trying As a woman roughly of Hulk's age at that point, were you attracted?

40:27Jason Mantzoukas:Excuse me? Wait, what are you asking? I'm saying Hulk was probably about our age. So you're saying that in 89 I was Hulk's age? No. No, no, no. I was saying now. But are you a young lady exploring your body and learning about it? Hulk Hogan looks terrible in this movie. And I know we're not talking about, we have another Hulk movie to discuss in a little bit, but I'm really upset about his hair. I'm really upset. What do you mean? Why not stop asking about his hair and ask about his charity work?

41:14Jason Mantzoukas:I feel like the other finger was supposed to come out but steroids made it go in. This one's gone squirrely on me, little boy. I broke it too many times, brother. Oh, that little fucker won't fall in line anymore. It's my trick finger. Trick finger, brother. So, June, what you were talking about is hair. Well, it's such a shocking color, and it's such a shock of blonde hair. Totally natural. He basically looks like nude clown. Yeah. He has like, oh, that guy was supposed to be a rodeo clown, but someone streaked off all those shit. The color. Yeah, there's no color left and now it's just nude clown.

41:54That's exactly right. But I would not be surprised if someone smudged him if there was paint underneath. Do you know what I mean?

42:04Jason Mantzoukas:Like he has a white base and then they put tan on top of a white base. Somehow, yeah. Like foundation. My issue is he is a bald man. Why not just cut that? Why not cut the party in the back? He's like, brother, that's my power, brother. I'm like Samson. He has, like, for a giant behemoth of a man, he has, like, fine dolls hair. That's what's upsetting about it. It's Barbie hair. Like, honestly, yeah, like, my nieces have dolls that have thicker, more lustrous hair than him. He has mustache. That's really weird. He doesn't have, like, a powerful mane, so just, like, zzzz. And, like, I thought, like, for a while, I was like, oh, he's wearing those bandanas to hide it.

42:48Jason Mantzoukas:He's not ever hiding it. It's always out and about. It's the choice, brother. It's me and Vince Neil in this to the end, brother. Bandana brothers. Well, obviously, so, you know, look, Kurt Fuller needs to find somebody else. And he goes to the local bar. I'm getting so nervous we're going to run out of time. I know, we are going pretty slow. We are going to shit. There's so much to talk about. I mean, dwarf in a cage, dog in a bathroom. There's so much to talk about. I mean, these are just headlines. These are just headlines. I mean, there's so much. I mean, when they go to this bar. The dwarf in a cage really bugged me a lot.

43:25Oh. Dwarf in a cage never gets explained. Dwarf in a cage is in it throughout, never gets explained. But it's something like that dwarf. They go to this disgusting hillbilly bar. Disgusting place. Where everyone's disgusting. There's a 25-minute scene where David Pamer and the other guy who's kind of like me go to the bathroom.

43:42Jason Mantzoukas:I was going to say I could play the David Pamer part if you were playing the Kurt Foyle part. I'm the other, oh yeah, kind of. You'd be the head guy, yeah. If they make this today, bro, we're set. I'm so psyched. Can I say this for real? I will write a sequel to this movie starring you guys and Hulk Hogan. By the way, the WWE just launched an app. This could go right to them immediately. Let's do this. Done and done. Oh my God. No whole part two. They didn't take us up on Sharknado 2, which is a huge mistake. Huge mistake. We offered it. So they go to this hillbilly bar where there's no rules about fighting.

44:21They keep a dwarf in a cage. Never explain why, but the dwarf seems happy there, and also there's a prankster up there, too. He'll throw money in your drink for some reason, which Irish people, I think that's lucky. But in this place they go, there's no rules. No. This is the first, the concept of no holds. Would you say there are holds barred?

44:40Jason Mantzoukas:there are no here there are no holds are being barred oh this actually i want to talk about this june if you if you will indulge me this june and i we're in the car one time i was like hey we're doing no holds barred she said that doesn't that doesn't mean anything you were thought i had the title wrong when explain i told you to not explain yourself well i now know what it means after watching the movie i had not heard the expression no holds barred i had never heard that expression But you never heard the word bard, right? That was the issue? Well, I still may not know what it means. I'm going to be totally honest.

45:12Well, that's okay. Let's unpack this. What do you think it means? Okay. What I think it means in the context of this movie is there are certain wrestling holds. Sometimes they're bard. That's bard. Yes. Bard meaning what? Bar that move. Like, that's not going to fly here. Those holds Those holds aren't going to fly here Yeah, those holds will get you disqualified

45:41Jason Mantzoukas:Like, sleeper hold is a non-barred rule Non-barred Right But in the movie, there are no holds that are barred Oh, yeah So is that right? That is right, yeah Okay, thank you I've never heard of it before So they go to this There's wrestling going on And it doesn't even seem to be the main event of this bar No, the bar It just seems to be a secondary Everyone's literally monsters. Yes. It's basically like a world created by Frank Miller that Frank Miller didn't know about. Okay, so the waitress at one point says, I'm here or tonight I want to get laid, relayed, and parlayed. That's the waitress.

46:22And she's the best performance in the film. She's amazing. She delivers that line so beautifully. Laid, relayed, and parlayed.

46:30Jason Mantzoukas:I don't know if you guys have watched True Detective. I won't give you any spoilers. But when in the final episode, when they go to that guy's house and he's all videotapes, that's what this bar looks like. But like as a bar, like that house and those things as a bar. It's a kind of place where the David Pamer underling guy says to Kurt Fuller, these people would cheer at a hanging. And Kurt Fuller goes, exactly. That's exactly what I want. The bathroom is called the VD room And there's a loose pitbull in it There's a pitbull in the bathroom My favorite thing that happens in the bathroom David Pamer and David Pamer Light, the other guy Go to the bathroom for 20 minutes They're like, I really, really need to take a seat I should have gone before we came By the way, they're turning to that bathroom It is epic And then here it becomes like a dogma movie where they cut nothing out.

47:30They're just like, follow them for real. It's all natural lighting. It's all natural lighting. It's a real dog. They walk by a guy pissing in the hallway. Yeah. And then the hillbilly dude, they're like, these are the stupidest people in the world. Hillbilly busts out of the stall. Yes. They're both peeing in troughs. Here, hold on, hold on. Paul, you guys do it. Do it. Do it.

47:50Jason Mantzoukas:It's amazing. You're David Pamer. You're the other guy. These hillbillies, this is the worst. these people are trash. And they're so stupid too. What did you say? What? Pulls them away. Puts his head up to their dicks. Examines them for a long time. Yup. Y 'all ain't worth it. Wait, he also says they have little dicks. Tiny dicks. Teeny weenies. Teeny weenies. I believe he actually says teeny weenies and then y 'all ain't worth it. But his face is like... In there. What makes that scene even better?

48:40Because here's the thing. You don't need to get that close to a dick to know how big it is. Here is the thing.

48:48Jason Mantzoukas:It's the weirdest thing I've ever seen in a film. He is nearsighted and that's part of his character's dream. I can't afford glasses, you guys. What I love about that scene, though, is he also just came from taking a massive shit. Right next to a pit bull. Yeah. He busts down that door. So first, there's a huge shit sound. Oh, yeah. That's what interrupts them. They're talking trash and they hear like... Guys, by the way, we're about 10 minutes into this movie. Oh, I'm so... Oh, this is... No joke. I'm looking at it. No joke. This is literally scene nine. we've made a mistake this should be the whole night we gotta speed through this guys we haven't even got the Zeus so basically as we said so Kurt Fuller Kurt Fuller gets the idea and this is where another great name comes in just like World Television Network Sports for Kids oh oh Battle of the Tough Guys

49:55Battle of the Tough Guys We'll do a show We'll call it Battle of the Tough Guys And they're all like Lugnut Johnson They all have like terrible wrestling names And they all look like Like completely circular men In like overalls They all look like they're from the arm wrestling

50:16Jason Mantzoukas:I was going to say They're all the people who didn't make the over the top auditions Yes, exactly And then there's one guy who's just spraying hairspray all over his face. And body. That's tough. And all of them, when they cut to all of them, they're like... They're all like the Tasmanian devil. While I was watching this in my house, twice I had to go get a Ricola for my own throat. For the fucking growling. Now, the first broadcast of this, because I can only assume this is going out on television. Live. The host of it is the head of the network, Kurt Fuller. He is hosting the program. Welcome to the battle of the tough guys.

50:58And it's also just set in the bar. Yeah, because that's what it would be like if, like, if, like, Les Moonves was hosting Big Brother. He was like, tonight on Big Brother. Give the Super Bowl. I don't know if you noticed, though, the extras did change for Battle of the Tough Guys.

51:16Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, no, the snorty waitress put in a sparkly head chair. Right, and also, I mean, that bar was filled with just vagrants. And once they were shooting a television show, they did bring in sort of a fairly normal-looking audience. But it also seemed like it was very, I mean, well, yeah, so they're doing this battle. It's very kind of poorly choreographed. But this is my question I really want to get to, which is... This is it? this is the only one. Before this, you've had no question. None. Everything was made very clear to me because the plot was very simple. Now we're on minute 11. They're having, they're doing a live television broadcast.

51:51Jason Mantzoukas:People are fighting. I get it. It's like, and then all of a sudden in this bar, it's not a set and there are no cameras that I see. No, no, no. They're very small. They're very small. They don't, they're not in evidence as much as they should be. Yes. Yeah. So, like if Christopher Nolan had made it, you would see them more. Yeah. I wish Christopher Nolan would remake this movie. It would be a challenge. Tiny Zeus Lester in that Batman movie too. Oh, Christian Bale. So amazing. But he's worked with both. Oh, my God. Because he was on the boat. Tiny Zeus Lester is on the boat in Batman with the Joker.

52:27Jason Mantzoukas:Holy shit. So... Oh, I wish we had him here. I worked with him on NTSF and he was amazing. Tiny was amazing. Tiny Lester, yeah. Got the set. said, I need Taco Bell now. We got him Taco Bell.

52:49I feel that every second of my life. I just don't say it.

52:53Jason Mantzoukas:If you look like Tiny, you can request it and people will go running. Oh yeah, two PAs going to the quickest Taco Bells. Alright, so this is the part I don't understand. So it's in a bar and it seems to me like Zeus cuts an entire wall out. Because he also has superpowers that have never been explained. Kicks down a wall, like a structural wall. It wasn't like an entrance. I don't understand what that was and if it was planned. I don't think it was planned because Kurt Fuller was like oh, who's this guy? He has the powers of Magneto. That's a good question though because I did wonder where did he come from?

53:36Yes. Yes. He wasn't recruited. Well, from jail. No, June, that's a great question. And was he told, like, go cut down the wall and there's guys fighting on the other side? What the fuck happened? Well, I guess he heard about the$100 ,000 and he wanted it tax-free.

53:48Jason Mantzoukas:Tax-free, tax-free. And he burst down the wall. He burst down that wall. He's like...

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55:10Jason Mantzoukas:For all you WWF nerds, I might be getting my facts wrong, but I'm pretty sure this is the truth. There's a certain point in Hulk's career where he was accused of being racist. It's called this movie. and I believe that scene in that place was to show no I am a defender of black people so why do the two guys robbing the place have to be black it bummed me out so bad I was like come on man they could be skeevy white tweakers but no it was just like the classic I'm going to fucking throw pies at these black guys he throws by the way too many pies in that restaurant for him to throw they were like It's like someone lined up 40 pies.

55:53Jason Mantzoukas:Somebody must, like all the pie orders got up in one. By the way, the robbery would not have cost them as much as the pie loss. This scene felt to me as if it was written for a Dukes of Hazzard episode. And then the writer was like, it's not going to work, so I'll save it. And then later was like, wait, I'll put it in this movie. Hulk, I just want to say there was$30 in the register and those pies were worth$110. 10. The song, there is a song. Not to be a dick, but, hey, did I tell you about my charity? Shaka. There's a song that's playing and you hear the lyrics for a brief second, which is, I got ketchup on my blue jeans.

56:33Ha. That's, that's the soundtrack to the, to the soul food restaurant scene. And then the robbers come in and then it's pie fight. Oh my God, this, I just remember,

56:47Jason Mantzoukas:just as we're barreling through this movie. We are not barreling through this movie. We're not at all. Push the 10 o 'clock show until 11. There's a couple of scenes, yeah. It's most of the same people, right? Yeah, we'll just add an hour. It'll be fine. The scene before this that's at the conference room when they're discussing how Battle of the Tough Guys went and what the numbers are. I don't care what people said. We got the biggest numbers ever. One of Kurt Fuller's underlings gets a video camera for his birthday. This is my favorite part. Okay, so that's a birthday present. Well, yeah. The most sloppy exposition of all time.

57:26Do you have this? I don't.

57:27Jason Mantzoukas:I wish I had this scene. I should have. Okay. It's coming. Push-ups is coming, bro. Push-ups where you can see into Hulk Hogan's butthole. If you think we're not going to talk about jerking off push-ups, you've lost your mind. It is coming. Hulk Hogan watched the dailies. He said, you can see up my butthole. I love it. Print it. Check it. Now, in that scene, that guy is filming a television. Yes. It's a present I got for my birthday. Literally, David Pater is like, hey, are you enjoying the birthday gift that you just got? And the guy says, do you know, do I have the line? I have the line if you don't.

58:09The guy goes, video is my life.

58:15Video is my life. Then what does Kurt Fuller say? Kurt Fuller says, that just gave me an idea. Despite all of your shortcomings, Mr. Micklepant. That's what I don't know. The idea is unrelated in any way to him standing there with a video camera. Well, the idea is to send the rapist. No, the brainwash tape. The idea is, let's make a Manchurian candidate. Yes, exactly. This movie basically now becomes a remake of the Manchurian candidate where you can see throbbing dick pulses at every point.

58:49Jason Mantzoukas:Well, this becomes my thing. Zeus is a big fighter. The Battle of the Tough Guys takes place in a steel mill at one point with a guy having a giant wrench, and Zeus just destroys them as the commentator says this line, which I wrote down as well. It's just an all-out brawl. And the guy goes, Never in the history of sport have I seen such incredible competition. there's a man wielding a giant like tire iron and another man shoving his head into like steel vats but here's the crazy thing about getting the idea that way he's what's happening in the scene that spurs this idea is that guy's filming a television yes of a show that he produces Of a show that he produces.

59:36I'm becoming quite a shutterbug. You would think that Kurt Fuller would have just gotten the idea by being a network televisionist. And staring at TV all day. Because he's thinking, in his mind, he's like, oh, I can use this camera to make tapes for Zeus. Or I could use all of the cameras at my disposal as the head of a television network to do the same. Like, why does it take this little camera? Despite all your shortcomings.

1:00:05Jason Mantzoukas:This, now, we got, this is where we're going to have to unpack the majority of this. The love scene, the hotel scene. Okay, so. Hands down, amazing. Joan Severance and Rip go on an overnight. But it's basically like it happened one night, sort of. They put up the, they close off the room a little bit. They're like, well, blame your management for booking us one room. And then she's in the bathroom. Here's what drives me crazy. She's brushing, she's stripped down to her bra, and for some reason, the sexiest grandma panties. I love that outfit. It was like, I said, she's wearing satin bloomers. I have a picture of it.

1:00:48The bloomers pulled up to her fucking rib cage. They look great.

1:00:51Jason Mantzoukas:Wait, you have a picture? To call them panties, it's like they're just a really short miniskirt. Because I think Hulkster saw her in regular panties and said, it's a family affair. Yeah. Hey, this is supposed to be a family affair. Oh, you have the whole scene. I have the whole scene. Oh, let's watch it. Let's all shut up. Watch it. Everybody shut up for a second. All of your dreams are coming true, audience. It is amazing. Here we go. I want to wear tie-dye in this, brother. Here she comes.

1:01:27Can you get the lights? You got it.

1:01:35like your accommodations do i have a choice

1:01:43it gets brighter it gets brighter why does it get brighter what is she wearing

1:01:50Jason Mantzoukas:look at that outfit and as long as you stand your side of the bed everything will be fine and then we have another sequence I have another sequence coming play it right away is this the okay why don't you go straight into what's next I'm going to so they're getting into bed and she starts to hear a noise and here we go

1:02:20Jason Mantzoukas:your eye, this is amazing

1:02:36I like that she tries to listen more. What is with those panties?

1:02:52Don't wait up for me.

1:02:59Yeah. Sexy saxophone playing on this song.

1:03:06Jason Mantzoukas:I didn't know what she was looking at when she first pitted over the bed. I still don't know. It's his heels. It's both his heels, but are they supposed to be a butt? I thought they looked like knees, though. I genuinely was confused by what part of his body that was. It was very hard. Don't wait up for me. Now I am wondering, by the way. Everything you hear someone say is the best take. I just... Oh, no. Full of a quick pic for the audience. That was going to be the original poster, just a shock in his ass. Did she book them in one hotel room on purpose? No, no. That's what it revealed. Her office messed up.

1:03:43Jason Mantzoukas:The bad guy was like, she's like, you booked us in one hotel room. Wait, can I ask a question legit? What is the relationship between her and Kurt Fuller? That's what I do. He says at one point. Have you put her in place at this other network? Yes, he has, Jason. Oh, wow. He says... She's basically... It's basically the story of Mata Hari. What agency? What do you mean that he got her from an agency? I don't know. To be a TV executive? That's correct. What are you talking about? Oh, hey, I got this. You're going to be a model. You're a model. You're beautiful. Okay, I need you to go in and seduce Rip.

1:04:19Okay, you're going to be a network executive. Hey, guys. She's already a touring agent. June, everybody, quick question. they fly on a jet to go to that soul food restaurant to stay in that one hotel room And that's it. That's a real... There is no explanation. They're literally like... They're literally like... They get on a fucking jet. It's not a jet. Go to a soul food restaurant with a pie fight. It's a prop plane. Oh, hey, airplane guy, shut the fuck up.

1:04:50Jason Mantzoukas:Most of our live audience are aviation experts. But I think it's not a jet. Okay, so it's a prop plane. It's a prop plane. They take a prop plane to a restaurant. Where is Malaysian Flight 320? That's a good question. But by the way, there's literally, there's never any explanation of why they're going to this far away, terrible restaurant. The end. He slaps her as well. This is another scene where Joan Severance is confronted by Kurt Fuller. He's pissed at her that she didn't bone rip. And he slaps her across the face in front of Pamer and Pamer Jr. And they do nothing. Everybody's like, we're cool with this.

1:05:31Well they saw him break that glass globe

1:05:34Jason Mantzoukas:In the beginning I should have brought this up When we were talking about her panties I don't think that Upon reflection That I just want you guys to understand Those weren't underwear that she was wearing Underneath her clothes They must be Don't be an apologist Severance underpants apologist Wait a second What do you mean? That's underpants You don't wear a bra to bed like that Sometimes you do Do you think Joan Severance knew she was supposed to seduce Hulk? Or do you think Kerrful was just... Ooh, that's a toughie. Can I ask a question that I thought was really insane? We intercut. They're in a motel room.

1:06:13And the Hulkster is out putting on the cheesecake shorts. And Joan Severance is in her bra. And they're listening to each other. And she starts brushing her teeth in the bathroom. And he starts brushing his teeth in the hotel room. Where there is no source of water. For a long time in the intercut, and she's by a sink, and he's not by any source of water, brushing his fucking teeth.

1:06:38Jason Mantzoukas:And his plan was to hold it. Because he's holding it in his mouth, waiting for it to leave the bathroom. And then he has to go, like he swallows it. Yeah, that's gross. Oh, wait. I think the reason they did this trip... Oh, no. Forget it. Disregard. No, I'm wrong. I thought the reason why they did the trip. Except to throw pies at some poor people. It was for the charity event, but it wasn't. No. No, it wasn't for the charity event. Long story short, Zeus paralyzes Hulk Hogan's brother.

1:07:11Whose name is Randy. And in any other movie, Randy would be the villain. Yes. Like, as soon as you see Randy, he's like the sweep the leg guy. Yeah. But in this movie, he's the guy you love so much.

1:07:23Jason Mantzoukas:and Hulk does some serious acting here and breaks out in full-on tears when he sees his brother paralyzed, at which point I go, you know what would be great if they remade this exact script with Ryan Gosling? I think that it's like you see this guy, like he's fighting, he doesn't want to get involved in this and then he gets pulled in. It would be great. I would love to see that. We have so many good ideas for how to redo this movie. Yeah, so his brother is paralyzed. This is, we have skipped over The Rapist, but I think we've covered it pretty much. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no, no. We can't skip over that.

1:07:55So, Joan Severance fails them. The Hulkster shows up on a motorcycle that's never been introduced before. Scoops up the guy. The guy's about to, like, pulls her off so we see her bra again, which feels like it was a note. And then scoops him up on the front of the motorcycle and drives him into, like, a fucking garbage dump and basically kills the guy. Yes. Casual murder happening everywhere. Everywhere.

1:08:16Jason Mantzoukas:And then he runs over to Joan Severance and goes, God, I hate it when you're hurt. Wait, wait. He says, you're right. God, I hate it when you're hurt, period. Or scared, period. And she says, I know. This is the first time we ever saw her hurt and or scared. By the way, a lot of their serious conversations are blocked and staged on the ground. Yeah. So this one, and then before this one, before when she comes out of that conference with what's his face, they have a full conversation where she reveals herself and what she's done on the floor of Hulk's mansion. And they just start kissing and they've never kissed before and it's not even that romantic.

1:09:00Jason Mantzoukas:They kiss like a couple that's been going out for a couple years. It's very anticlimactic. Their first kiss is very anticlimactic. It's a family affair. They've already been kissing? I was like, did I miss when they became a couple? Wait, obviously. And four years have passed. And I'm really sorry to go back to this. They have the apathy of they don't care about each other anymore Now I'm thinking that Kurt Fuller's character must have owned the other network. What now? Wow. In what world could he... This is turning into end-night Shyamalan stuff. How could he place this random woman... We're on the other side of the looking glass now.

1:09:36How could he place this random woman in that position? That's what I'm asking. That's what I'm asking. But if he owned the other network, he wouldn't need... He has the number one TV show. Why would he need to rape and murder so many people? If he owned the network, he doesn't need to hire him. For a TV show. He doesn't need Battle of the Tough Guys. I don't have all the answers. Right? But how else would he have gotten her in that post? I have no idea, especially if she was like a model from a service. But Kurt Fuller, basically everything he does in this movie to get a wrestling TV show is a hundred times more fucked up than anything the Joker would do.

1:10:11Yes. And a hundred times. It's like the Joker would never do that. Yeah. That's too fucking crazy. He has no moral compass. No.

1:10:19Jason Mantzoukas:It is because he got to be the number one. Some men just want to watch the world burn. I know I'm jumping ahead now, but I do think we have to at this point. We do, we do, we do. The crazy thing about Kurt Fuller's character is that when that fight is happening at the very end between Zeus and Rip. Can I just add one thing? Go ahead. So Hulk Hogan finally says, all right, I'll fight Zeus because my brother's paralyzed. What is it? Randy? Randy. Oh, yeah. In a traction, basically. Vegetative stake. He's basically dead. Yeah. He can't get up. Randy is the kid brother of Hulk. So Zeus then goes on a tear of training with the Manchurian tape, the Manchurian candidate tape.

1:10:57Jason Mantzoukas:He's like training really hard. Hulk is just helping her to rehabilitate his brother. No training in the training montage. And by the way, Zeus is like any good fighting trainer will tell you. The best thing to do is punch and blow up cinder blocks. Yeah. Because it gets you just your whole body ready. You just want to hit the cinder blocks as hard as you can. And Zeus has been shown in this movie to be the most powerful man of all time. Like, there is no rhyme or reason. The only backstory we get on Zeus is I used to train him. He went to prison because he killed somebody. Now he's out. Like, we don't know what happened.

1:11:33Jason Mantzoukas:But he is all powerful. The Hulk doesn't train. It's like a Rocky movie with no training. Hulk, I will say this, and this is what I couldn't figure out. is... His training is stopping rapes with a motorcycle. I actually thought that that was an interesting choice. Because the fact that he doesn't train and that it's sort of mental training of him helping his brother. Which will come back later on when he sees him and has to really call on those emotions. I think it's unfair how kind you just were to this film. I thought it was an interesting choice. You just actually made this sound like a noble work of art.

1:12:10Don't you feel like... Yes. Zeus paralyzed Randy, but... Traction. Yes, Zeus tractioned Randy. But, and Hulk wants revenge, yes, but by going on Battle of the Tough Guys to fight Zeus, isn't Hulk, A, breaking his contract with his network? That's a good point. B, giving Hulk Fuller exactly what he wants. Yes. The number one show and higher ratings than ever before. This makes me crazy. He's playing right into his hands. Because when, spoiler alert, when Rip starts to beat the shit out of Zeus, Kurt Fuller rushes over to the transmission and starts smashing the reel-to-reel that the podcasting is.

1:12:52This is what makes no sense, because from the beginning, all Kurt Fuller wanted was for Rip to be on the network. Yes. The second he is, he smashes up the reel-to-reel.

1:13:00Jason Mantzoukas:Because his thought is, if he beats Zeus, then no one will tune in next week for Battle of the Tough Guys. so he needs to keep the ambiguity going. I felt bad because you can see Kurt Fuller's on the other side of the glass while Tiny Lister and the Hulkster are fighting for obviously four or five days of coverage. And have you ever been in the background of a scene where they're just like, just keep screaming, brother. Kurt Fuller's screaming for what must have been five days straight. I will also say about this fight. The whole movie is like, wrestling is like even though it's real in this movie it's two stage we want to go and get the real tough guys and the bars and the steel mills and all these like in the aircraft carrier factory whatever it is but then the final fight is the most it was crazy it's like the shittiest version of the WWF all of it like it's on the Morton Downey Jr.

1:13:56talk show set and it's worse than the first fight like the first fight Rip's home network wrestling broadcast is still far and away the most glossy, classy fight. It's still a piece of garbage. For some reason, all of the turnbuckles are jiffy pop things. It's the most fucked up looking thing.

1:14:14Jason Mantzoukas:And this is what I wanted to talk about in this part. So at the beginning of the match, it's no holds barred, June. No holds barred. I know what that means. Any hold you want to make. You can do it. And at the beginning, they go, the ref is now checking the turnbuckles. Why? They let people in with lug wrenches. They fought in steel mills. they have no rules why do you have to check the turnbuckles it is weird they make that announcement yeah they make the announcement this is the only no rules we gotta make sure everything's up to par I kind of thought it felt like this last fight though was not a part of Battle of the Tough Guys what now?

1:14:54no no they introduced it as Battle of the Tough Guys not only that there's like the dumb announcer who would be me if they made it now comes out and is like welcome to the Battle of the Tough Guys Zeus punches him out of the fucking ring for no reason whatsoever. That's true. That's what we call friendly fire.

1:15:09Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, how did I even... Like, that was my whole thought was how did I even communicate with Zeus throughout this whole movie? So the fight tomorrow is like... Just show up like a half hour early. Do you want to put oil all over or do you want to just go or do you want to eat something or do you want to just be ready to go? And then also, if I was Zeus' trainer and I know he doesn't have trainers But I'd say, Zeus, stop celebrating and just make sure the guy that you just knocked down is down. Because Zeus' Achilles heel is that. He's just celebrating with his back turned to the person he has just knocked down.

1:15:43Jason Mantzoukas:The whole movie is just based on Hulk is going, and he's like...

1:15:54It's also, this fight takes place in a venue that over the course of the fight is completely demolished. Like everything. The ring is demolished. For some reason, all of the extras are in prom dresses. They're just like, whatever you want at prom, I swear to God, we're on day 40. Just fucking wear your prom dress and be here at 545. Pretty in Pink was shooting across the hall. Just come on over. Just kidding. That's why I didn't think it was Battle of the Tough Guys. This is my last words on earth. Show up at 545. I would not be surprised if all of this movie was shot in and around WWF headquarters in Connecticut.

1:16:37Oh, of course. You know what I mean? If it was all just random spaces that they own because it looks terrible. Did anyone else notice that Joan Severance is reading a book in the montage where Randy's getting rehabilitated? She's sitting in the hospital room when he first flutters his eyes open. And I believe she's sort of covering it. But I believe the book title is Men Who Can Love. Did anyone else see it? I so hope that's true. And it's just a list of men's names. It's definitely a self-help book. It's not a novel. Steve Johansson. Peter Wagner. Bill Richards. Michael Richards Kramer from Seinfeld.

1:17:33Jason Mantzoukas:Apparently a really funny thing that happened was to promote this movie, they decided to bring Tiny Lister into the WWF, but he was never a wrestler and not very good. and he only did three matches and then they just said, no, no, you can't fight anymore. Because Zeus was very upset because, spoiler alert, he loses at the end of this movie. He does not win. No, Paul, he dies. Oh, no. No, no, he's alive. Kurt Fuller dies, I think. That was a casual murder? By the way, that's the other great thing. So he kills Zeus, it seems like, throws him through the stage. Throws him through the stage. Everybody's pretty excited about that.

1:18:09Because this is, basically this whole movie's like a lynching, as far as I can tell. then everyone, women, children, Kurt Fuller's in the booth. He's ripped up the fucking reel-to-reel that broadcasts television. Yes. And the wires explode, and, like, the Hulkster throws a chair through the window, and everything explodes. Kurt Fuller, like, is electrocuted violently to a huge crowd of children and women. They watch an adult man burned alive by electricity. Their reaction must be one of horror, right? Nope. Hulkster turns around and goes... He shoots... Why do we care? Remember how we all just watched that adult man burned alive by electricity?

1:18:58What happened was it cooks our system, which is basically electrical.

1:19:02Jason Mantzoukas:But what I love about it, too, is it's just a cheat because they can't make Hulk kill a good guy. I feel like he couldn't do it. No, but he kills him. Oh, he kills him. That man is straight up dead at the end of this move. By the way, so is Zeus. Thank you. I don't know what Zeus is. Zeus is fucking dead. Zeus is absolutely dead. He throws him 30 feet into a fucking hole in the ground. And he doesn't move. There's no shot of Zeus, like, twitching. He is dead. Zeus is fucking dead. You guys want to take a guess on how much money this movie costs to make? Yes. Yeah. $4 million. Anything? What did you say, four?

1:19:39I said four. I said, like, seven.

1:19:43Jason Mantzoukas:25. It was$8 million. On opening weekend, it made$5 million. Came in number two to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

1:19:56Jason Mantzoukas:Wow. And total growth,$16 million. So it was a... Great news. Wow, way better than many of mine. I've got 15 under that. That's not bad. And the logline was no ring, no ref, no rules. However, they're all... Not true, not true, not true. Yeah, yeah. Every one of those things in every battle. But okay. All of those things. Yeah. I want to run out to the audience. There are no real Amazon five-star reviews. They're all snarky. So I'd rather go to you guys and get from you guys some questions. Oh, we have a little bit. Let's see if the house lights up. What are your questions about No Holds Barred?

1:20:32Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, my gosh. We have somebody that has something. Oh, my gosh. We got baby onesies over here. This is amazing. Look at this. Oh, this is hilarious. This is... How'd this get made? Baby onesie. And then Jason, give me your baby baby onesie. These are amazing. Thank you guys so much. Our baby will wear a Jason Manzuka special at all points. All right, I went down the wrong side. Thank you guys so much. All right, here we go. Okay. Your question. I'm going to go to you right here. Your name and your question. My name is Marianne, and my question is, at the restaurant scene, there's this whole interaction between the waitress and Rip.

1:21:10The waitress and Rip. And it's like she's this really broad, black, sassy woman stereotype. And she's like telling the woman, Samantha, whatever. Oh, you better keep him. He's a keeper. If I wasn't married, I'd get on that again or something. Like, it's just the weirdest interaction. It's probably because. No, Rip totally fucked that waitress. Yeah. 100%. And I think. I think, you know. They fucked for days. There's a question about why the point of that trip. He wanted to see his ex-girlfriend.

1:21:48Jason Mantzoukas:All right, this is... He wanted to see his ex-girlfriend. All right, this is... This is amazing. We have a question that has a very big... It's a lot. This is like a school project going here. It's like a chart. It's like a flow chart. Okay, here we go. Explain your flow chart. What's your name and what's your flow chart? I feel like Ferrigno's up here. My name's Kyle, and I want to be the first visual presenter for a question. Great. So it's good for the audio medium of podcast. In keeping with your theme. So Rocky in Rocky III fights Thunderlips, who is essentially Hulk Hogan, who is Rip. And it comes to a draw.

1:22:18Let's pick this up a little bit. Okay, Rocky then fights Strago, and Rocky ends the Cold War that way. If Rip can beat Tiny Lister, and Ice Cube can beat Tiny Lister, can Ice Cube then end the Cold War, or more importantly, end the crisis in Crimea?

1:22:35Jason Mantzoukas:It's an amazing, it was a very well thought out thesis. this? By the way, it's also provably true. Can I just show that up? Can someone just unravel that as I find it? The president follows me on Twitter. Let's pitch this. Everyone can take a look at that. Alright, let's see. What's your question? Can you guys talk about the scene when... Oh, Jesse, hi. Can you guys talk about the scene when he first meets Sam and while she's pitching ideas? Sorry, one more time. I missed it. There was a big laugh in the middle of your thing. Sorry. When he first meets Sam and he she's pitching all these things to him why don't you do this what about more of this what if my tour dates are lined up more with my craziest fuck me eyes and he starts biting his thumb and he's going crazy and she's just talking about whatever and that's all the scene is but then this is the weird thing about this scene because he's staring at her very lustfully for a while but then when she gets really close to him he just stares off at the table like it's so weird i'm gonna fuck you i'm shy and then yeah and then she says dinner tonight dressy ask me about my charity here we go you're you're come here your name your wrestling name and your question here we go oh uh my name is cara uh my wrestling name would be margaret thrasher and uh uh there's a point i think that is vital to make that randy is played by mark pellegrino in this movie who grows up to be jacob from lost oh wow good point i noticed that too yeah so important but i also had a question about the banging of of hulk and joan severance do we think that they actually filmed a sex scene that was so terrible it had to be cut from the movie and that's why they go automatically to like the making out like they've always i feel like it I'd be so clean right here.

1:24:28I think the Hulkster was like, it's a family affair. Yeah. Well, I would... As much as I would love to be four and a half inches into you... Shouldn't be eating that fishy. Semi-hard. Due to a combination of a strange cocktail that's pulsing through my body right now. I'm not sure if you can see my heartbeat through my penis, but you can. I am curious about Hulk's, well, Rip's sleeping habits. because in that scene, it seems like she's been asleep for a while. And he does push-ups at the rate of 1 ,000 a minute. Oh, yeah. 1 ,000 a minute.

1:25:06Jason Mantzoukas:It's a little rude to be doing that in a shared bed. Right? We all agree to that? Yeah. Oh, yeah, very rude. Very rude. Your feet could also be on the desk, Rip. Or any chair, anything. All right, your question, your wrestler name. Here you go. My name is Danielle. My wrestling name will be Hell on Wheels. And, okay, so one... That's a roller derby name.

1:25:39So, Zeus beats up, I mean, essentially puts his brother in a coma. Like, why don't they call the cops? Traction, traction. Like, why isn't Zeus being arrested for that?

1:25:51Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I guess as long as, I think that as long as you're around Zeus, you're going to get hurt. Everyone has proven if you get within arm's reach, he will hurt you, faceplant you, or break your back. Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but now it is time for a second opinion. Second opinions. From top to bottom, crazy movies are fun. They're not your first, but they're going to be a second. From the depths of Amazon, they come. Second opinions for everyone Second opinions These are five-star reviews on Amazon And now, like I said, I think a lot of them are facetious But these are the least facetious or the best facetious I could find This one is, What's That Smell?

1:26:45Jason Mantzoukas:This whole Kogan classic tells the... This whole Colgan classic tells the story of Jesus Christ's fight against the Romans in a modern-day battle. Instead of the battlefield taking place in the days of old, our hero is getting crucified. The battle is in a bar and Hulk gets Zeus-ified. The creator may have rested on the seventh day, but on the eighth day, he made no holds barred. Five stars. by the way what if Zeus is Zeus that actually would be that whole movie would own up come down from Mount Olympus and Athena bursts out of his forehead this is a good one and this is the one that I think could be real I found the relationship between Rip and Joan Severance I love that Joan Severance Rip and Joan Severance she has no name person who called her Sam to be morally satisfying.

1:27:46Jason Mantzoukas:They are separated by a sheet when they share a hotel room and they provide an uplifting example for proper premarital behavior. Especially in panty size. The moral choices rip faces mirrors our own struggles. The ending will leave you cheering if not weeping at the heroism of Hulk Hogan. I initially hated the use of violence to drive home the moral message of good triumphing over corporate evil, but since this is wrestling and the violence in the movie is a good example of why wrestling is not fake, it fits into the story. What? It fits into the story as long as you can explain to your children that Rip was only using violence to beat the bad guys because they backed him into a corner and he had no other choice.

1:28:32Jason Mantzoukas:Unless it's for God or country, that kind of violence should not be tried by anyone. I recommend this movie for kids and parents alike you will be entertained and uplifted especially when Kurt Fuller gets electrocuted in front of your eyes is there anything that you guys that we missed we can hit on in these last minutes here Gary? what? June, talk more about sports for kids because what happens is there's two children Greco-Roman wrestling in a field

1:29:07I'm gonna I'm gonna wager that sports for kids serves inner city kids or it seemed pretty rural it actually did seem pretty rural it was in a huge field but it's like fresh air fun they take the inner city kids let's take children out to a cornfield and make them wrestle against each other today you would go to prison for 50 years now can I can I just pitch one version of this you would never be free again you took these children to a field and then they wrestle each other in swimsuits? Eh.

1:29:37Jason Mantzoukas:And then they're picked up by their instructor, one in each arm. The thing about this that I'll just say to keep in our head, Hulk is at the height of his career. He probably does have a charity for kids. Why not just use the actual name in charity because getting that word out there about that charity... Why not use his name? Brother, brother, that's a kettle of fish. This is the weird thing about him not using his name too is if he's trying to, you would think they would want to promote this idea that the wrestling is real. So if they called him Hulk Hogan and we were able to see him actually fighting these matches, we might buy into that a bit more.

1:30:15Absolutely. 100%. And it would be a big commercial for wrestling.

1:30:21Jason Mantzoukas:Guys, I just had a thought. Vince McMahon, or not Vince McMahon, but Jesse's Body is in this, and the other guy. Mean Gene. Mean Gene. Is this a world in which Hulk Hogan exists? and is not as popular as Rip. Wow. Oh, we're starting to peel the onion. Yeah. We're peeling the onion now. Holy shit. So Rip may be like, yeah, Rip is like where Hulk wants to go. That's interesting. Think about it. Think about it and write the prequel. Is it possible that this movie came out when Hulk Hogan, the character, was a bad guy? Because there was a period in wrestling when Hulk Hogan was a bad guy. Very early on.

1:31:04Very early, yes. Oh, that was early? Well, early in the career. You always come out like that, and then you... Because I was thinking, oh, maybe people wouldn't have wanted that, if he was a bad guy, they wouldn't have wanted to see Hulk Hogan as the hero. I don't know. No, no, no. He was always the hero.

1:31:17Jason Mantzoukas:Eat your vitamins, kiss your mother, Hulk Hogan. I know, but there was a period where he went through being a bad guy, too. All right. That's Hollywood Hulk Hogan. There's got to be a wrestling nerd here, right? Speak up. Tell me. Too many of you shut up now. We heard it was later. Later on, he's like, any rape I see, I'm going to stop with a motorcycle. This movie was amazing. Thank you guys all for being here. Everybody watch it.

1:31:46Jason Mantzoukas:Definitely watch, right? Definitely watch this movie. 100%. Watch this movie. Watch it again and again. Tom, you have a child. Would you show this to your child? Not in 100 million years. That was No Holds Barred. What an amazing show. Give it up for Tom Lennon. And a big thanks to Earwolf for all the help that they give us for this show. And all of our interns. For the longest time, I've been giving thanks to Avril Haley. That person does not exist. It's actually Averil Haley. I've mispronounced her name so long. I am so sorry to you. But she pulls all of our clips. Thank you to her. Thank you to Nate Kiley, who does all of our research.

1:32:26Jason Mantzoukas:Thank you to Leanna Waldron, who does all of our amazing designs on our Facebook page. and Katie Dyer, who runs our social media presence. And, of course, Cody Scully, who was the engineer for that night live at Largo. Thank you guys all. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.

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