In short
The hosts review and roast the 1991 film Oscar (a gangster farce directed by John Landis), discussing why it feels too slow, confusing in tone, and missing “stakes,” despite strong performances and farce mechanics.
Guests (hosts)
Paul Scheer (main host) and Jason Manzoukas (co-host). June Diane Rayfield joins as a guest co-host; she discusses her memories of the VHS/Blockbuster era and her impressions of the film’s pacing and performances.
Guest backgrounds
Manzoukas is a regular comedy podcast co-host; Rayfield is a recurring How Did This Get Made contributor who returns for this episode.
Key claims
The movie’s pace is wrong (often “two-napper” slow), Stallone’s performance doesn’t match the screwball energy, and the plot is overcomplicated without a ticking-clock threat. The title character “Oscar” is absent until late, creating a mismatch with the film’s premise. Marissa Tomei’s comedic timing is praised as the right tone; others are too slow.
Notable examples
the claymation opening; the “weapons dump” gag with Tim Curry/Dr. Pool; repeated bag/underwear confusion; the “keep in mind, it’s 1931” line; the elocution scene; and the “banker boardroom” sequence.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOverview of Oscar
2:18 to 3:08
Learn about the plot and background of the movie Oscar.
“Little bird Timmy, how he's staying alive.”
Financial Performance of Oscar
3:08 to 4:07
Discuss the budget and box office performance of the film Oscar.
“A gangster attempts to keep the promise he made to his dying father that he would give up his life of crime and go straight.”
Co-Host Introduction
4:07 to 4:50
The hosts welcome co-host Jason Manzoukas to the discussion.
“This movie that feels longer than The Brutalist.”
Initial Reactions to Oscar
4:50 to 6:05
Hosts share their first impressions and critiques of the film.
“You're telling me I'm on the same stage that Joni Mitchell stood on?”
Character and Performance Analysis
6:05 to 8:06
Discussion of character performances and their impact on the film's success.
“Were you in the theater seeing this in 1991?”
Comedy Elements Discussion
8:06 to 10:00
Exploring the comedic aspects and tone of the movie Oscar.
“But I don't think I saw it when it arrived.”
Comparisons to Other Films
10:00 to 12:10
The hosts compare Oscar to other films and discuss what worked better elsewhere.
“In a way, I kept on going, is he the straight man or is he funny?”
Final Thoughts on Oscar
12:10 to 14:01
Hosts share their concluding thoughts and reflections on the film Oscar.
“You shouted out Marissa Tomei as the person who's in the right movie.”
The Real-Time Constraints of the Film
14:01 to 15:02
Explore how the film's one-day time frame restricts comedic elements.
“that he is, it's an internal conflict, and he wants so badly to, you know, be a stand-up guy and not be a criminal, and that is not present.”
The Real-Time Constraints of the Film
15:29 to 16:41
Explore how the film's one-day time frame restricts comedic elements.
“I mean, I wear contacts, but I have a pair of glasses that I keep, you know, for emergencies, earthquake, or maybe I'm just tired and I didn't want to put on my contacts.”
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The Real-Time Constraints of the Film
16:58 to 17:55
Explore how the film's one-day time frame restricts comedic elements.
“language, which is going to work, right?”
Stallone's Performance and Characterization
18:07 to 23:26
Discuss Stallone's portrayal and how it contrasts with other characters.
“was that Stallone seemed to be Stallone from 1991.”
Romantic Chemistry and Character Dynamics
23:27 to 26:19
Analyze the romantic tension and dynamics between characters in the film.
“And that might be the t-shirt at this point.”
Stallone's Humor and Comedic Choices
26:20 to 28:00
Examine the comedic style of Stallone and how it impacts the film's tone.
“With your face No, but She doesn't seem to be driving him crazy In the world of The Tony Danza movie She's out of control She seems like she is abiding by The house rules And that's also so equally weird.”
Stallone's Gangster Transition
28:00 to 30:00
Discussion of Stallone's character transition from gangster to banker.
“he doesn't have waffles are like weird pancakes like i feel like he was like that was his choice Like, I feel like, I don't know.”
Humor and Character Dynamics
30:00 to 31:19
Analyzing the comedic elements and character dynamics in the film.
“I wish, because Nora, the maid's bag, is sort of, it's turned over and all of her stuff comes out multiple times in the movie, I wish it was just a bunch of underwear.”
Humor and Character Dynamics
31:23 to 32:22
Analyzing the comedic elements and character dynamics in the film.
“one thing, what would that one thing be?”
Humor and Character Dynamics
33:34 to 34:32
Analyzing the comedic elements and character dynamics in the film.
“You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing on repeat?”
Humor and Character Dynamics
34:37 to 34:47
Analyzing the comedic elements and character dynamics in the film.
“Now available in Canada and the UK, too.”
Plot Confusion and Character Roles
36:04 to 42:04
Exploration of the plot's confusion and character roles within the film.
“it can't figure out the plot like like a farce supposed to be fun like oh my gosh i can't believe that that person walked in with.”
Analysis of Character Relationships
42:04 to 45:38
Explore the complex dynamics between characters and their motivations.
“but doesn't ever, has never seen this man.”
Discussion on Movie Stakes
45:38 to 47:59
Discuss the lack of stakes in the film and the need for heightened tension.
“And that's when he met his daughter So wait, how was that street urchin in the house on Valentine's Day?”
Critique of Elocution Scene
47:59 to 49:58
Evaluate the flaws in the elocution scene and its impact on character development.
“I loved that he says that the suit makers are killers and that Anthony believes the suit makers are killers.”
Audience Interaction and Insights
49:58 to 53:58
Engage with audience questions and explore different perspectives on the film.
“Or I want to see like I would like a sequel that is just Tim Curry like out in Europe.”
Comparative Analysis of Casting Choices
53:58 to 56:01
Consider whether different actors could have improved the movie's reception.
“Yeah, I guess I have a question for you.”
Discussion on Movie Details and Adaptation
56:01 to 57:24
Exploration of the film's adaptation from a stage play and character differences.
“This is such a small detail, but was anyone else disturbed that that giant bag of jewels just had just one flat layer of jewels on the bottom.”
Audience Insights on Stage Production
57:25 to 59:02
Audience member discusses their theater company considering the stage play adaptation.
“because i mean he sort of was playing it as a soap salesman like there was no real threat to him you know, coming off of him and it never felt like he was really going to hurt anyone or suppressing those instincts.”
Fire Incident at Universal Studios
59:03 to 1:01:20
A conversation about a significant fire at Universal Studios that affected the film's production.
“Even if we were to do a stage reading of the play.”
Discussion on Characters and Thematic Elements
1:01:21 to 1:03:04
Exploring character dynamics and themes presented in the film, including wedding gowns and songs.
“Do you or is it like I don't think you choose it.”
Opera Connections and Thematic Analysis
1:03:05 to 1:06:30
An audience member discusses the thematic choices regarding the use of operatic music in the film.
“I mean, I have to say, Marissa Tomei, and I know she's been in other time periods and she always looks amazing right now, but this, there was something about her in 1931 where she, boy, is this an era she can wear?”
Debate on Character Outcomes and Plot Considerations
1:06:31 to 1:10:00
Discussion about character outcomes at the end of the film and their implications.
“Maybe you can combine with his play company and you guys can do an operatic version of the play that is this movie.”
Introduction to Second Opinions
1:10:00 to 1:10:11
The hosts transition into discussing different opinions on the movie.
“Well obviously we had opinions about this movie but there are people out there with a different opinion.”
Piper's Creative Review
1:10:11 to 1:11:22
Piper shares a humorous and creative review of the movie using playful language.
Discussion on Music Recognition
1:11:22 to 1:11:46
The hosts reflect on their recognition of music from the movie and share their experiences.
“I feel like on three we can all say Piper No, right?”
Amazon Reviews of 'Oscar'
1:11:46 to 1:15:36
The hosts read and comment on various Amazon reviews for the movie 'Oscar'.
“I saw Lubega perform at the Hard Rock Live.”
General Thoughts on 'Oscar'
1:15:36 to 1:16:37
The hosts share their thoughts on the movie 'Oscar' and its reception.
“In 2020, he writes, if you haven't seen this, you should.”
Discussion on Stallone's Performance
1:16:37 to 1:19:04
The hosts discuss Stallone's performance and comedic style in the movie.
“You gotta, sometimes, like, it's exhausting to be so immersed in a time period.”
Character Casting and Chemistry
1:19:04 to 1:20:29
The hosts analyze character casting and the chemistry among actors in 'Oscar'.
“So you're saying if you can look at this movie and recast it and rehear it differently, you can really appreciate it.”
Comparative Movie Analysis
1:20:29 to 1:21:20
The hosts compare 'Oscar' to other films, suggesting better execution of similar ideas.
“They put a set of glasses on him, but he's a big strapping man.”
Promotions and Upcoming Projects
1:21:20 to 1:22:10
The hosts promote their upcoming projects and appearances.
“What are you telling people you're up to?”
Promotions and Upcoming Projects
1:25:41 to 1:27:05
The hosts promote their upcoming projects and appearances.
“I'm Shaquille O 'Neal, and this shouldn't be anybody's experience.”
Promotions and Upcoming Projects
1:27:11 to 1:27:35
The hosts promote their upcoming projects and appearances.
“The Wayfair store is in your neighborhood at Eden's Plaza and Wilmette.”
Transcript
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2:17I can punch the odd life for Timmy to the great shop. Little bird Timmy, how he's staying alive. They call him a bad ass and he's on the line. Cranking eight minutes cause they cool as ice.
2:27Jason Mantzoukas:Cause they're bad Jim Barney looking kind at night. All in June getting literal, Jason is getting laid. Jewel is making sure all the monkey shots get paid. They're just a bunch of movies while they're making the grade. Here's a real question for you, how did this get paid? Hello people of Earth. And hello people of Toronto.
2:53We are back in Toronto with a classic Canadian film.
3:04Jason Mantzoukas:The movie is called Oscar. It came out in 1991. IMDb describes this film as such. A gangster attempts to keep the promise he made to his dying father that he would give up his life of crime and go straight. Yeah, that sums it up. This is a movie based on a French farce. That's true. Which was based on a play. And, wow, budget was$35 million. First weekend it came out, made five. Worldwide gross,$23 million. Tagline of the movie, in crime and comedy, timing is everything. Also, the lesser used, it's a comedy of criminal proportions. We're going to break this down. This movie that feels longer than The Brutalist.
4:15Jason Mantzoukas:A movie in which June said I have to take a nap in the middle of. And I agree, you do have to take a nap. This is definitely a two-napper. So much goes on here. So many characters and so much yelling. We're going to break it all down, but first, please welcome my co-host, Mr. Jason Manzoukas.
4:49What's up, jerks? Let's go! Let's go, Massey Hall! You're telling me I'm on the same stage that Joni Mitchell stood on? Let's go! But a quick reminder, go fuck yourself, Canada.
5:15Jason Mantzoukas:Jason. Jason.
5:19Jason Mantzoukas:Wow. This audience has never. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll get you back. Don't worry, Canada. Jason, I was shocked to learn at the end of this film that it was directed by John Landis. Oh, I saw that at the beginning. Wow. During the Claymation song opening. some of some of the best acting in the movie is done by the claymation character full stop i want to break down that claymation scene because you spend so much money but why keep it so small in the corner of the crazy why everything about i don't understand anything in the decision making process that went into this movie also dot dot dot where was oscar where was oscar this is like waiting for good dough but dumber yes i i was flummoxed by the i thought for sure he was going to show up in the third act nope nope and when is his name first uttered about an hour into it so much so that when they said it i was like wait one of these people isn't oscar i thought for the entire time it was his name was oscar provolone yeah but they didn't boy snaps oh boy the names in the oh boy oh let's get into it because this is this fucking movie sucked
6:52now and we chose it just for you idiots this is what we think you like
7:01Jason Mantzoukas:A lot of you know that throughout our How Did This Get Made tour, we have not been joined by our regular co-host, June Diane Rayfield. But tonight, she is here. Please welcome June Diane Rayfield.
7:40Jason Mantzoukas:June has died. Welcome, June. How are you? I'm okay. How are you, Paul? I'm well. Thank you for asking the movie Oscar. Were you in the theater seeing this in 1991? I have such a vague memory of seeing the VHS movie arrive with the blockbuster. in the blockbuster, you know, glass? Plastic. Wait a picture. The glass? When they were putting... Where did you live? It was so sort of a luxury... Your videos came wrapped in glass? It was a luxury blockbuster by me. But I don't think I saw it when it arrived. And I actually, while we were... While I was looking at this poster, I remember thinking that he was...
8:25That it was a Victor Victoria type of movie because he looks like he has so much blush on here and there's something so striking about him. He has so much blush on in the scene where his father keeps slapping him that I thought they were making it look like his face was red from the slaps, not the case. He has it on throughout.
8:45Jason Mantzoukas:Yes. Now, I will say there's something about this movie that was really upsetting because it looks like they're all going to a costume party that's gangster themed. Like the costumes here seem comical To the point where it's like I don't understand I guess what I should say is Is this a comedy? I think some people knew it was Some people didn't know it was But I I think everybody but Sylvester Stallone Knew it was a comedy They were all like Oh we're in a classic farce? Okay cool And he was like I'm making The Godfather It's so hard because I really believe that had everyone just watched Marissa Tomei's performance first and then just said, okay, let's model the tone and tenor and let's kind of calibrate our own performance around this, we would have a very different movie.
9:43Well, she's in the overtly comedic movie. She's moving at the right pace. For a movie like this to work, it has to be fast. And everybody else is so slow. Well, that's going to be hard. Yeah, that's going to be hard.
9:55Jason Mantzoukas:with Sly. Yeah, Sly is not a fast actor. Yeah. In a way, I kept on going, is he the straight man or is he funny? And he is neither because he doesn't... He seems like he's playing it cool so he's never really fully flustered but there is a lot of yelling by him. No, I will say... By the way, I liked this movie quite a bit. But I will say... Sorry. Love that. I enjoyed it. 12 % on the tomato meter. Yeah, I did have to take a nap. But put that aside. That doesn't mean... Just because from enjoying it too much? I mean, it's so much fun. I got to go down for a second. Just because I had to take a break doesn't mean I didn't like it.
10:44But I love a movie and a play. This felt like a play. This felt like this was an Oscar Wilde play where a stranger or someone shows up in the beginning and an entire story unfolds and everyone gets woven in. It's even crazier than we thought it was going to be. And we, through the lens of Anthony or whatever, we start to realize this big, giant... Angelo? Wait, who are we talking about? Who are you talking about? I'm talking about The Accountant. Oh. Starring Ben Affleck.
11:17Jason Mantzoukas:That's Anthony. That is... Yeah. Yeah, I'm talking about Anthony. Like, once he arrives, we know that things are starting to happen. A bug just landed on me. A Canadian bug just landed on me. And I'm not into it at all. Are we under attack from Canada? What is this? Wow. This is what you're up to, huh? Just sending bugs after us? Somebody, what, let a bunch of bugs out in the theater? Cool, Canada. Cool. Well, you will be, June, you will be happy to know it was based on a 1958 stage play. Yeah. It's a single location. It feels like a farce, like open doors, closed doors. Oh, no, there's a secret daughter.
12:02Oh, no. Which I love. And when done well and about 42 minutes shorter, it could have been a huge success. You shouted out Marissa Tomei as the person who's in the right movie. The other person I would say is Tim Kerr. Oh, absolutely. Tim Curry Tim Curry gets it and he always does he always does
12:24Jason Mantzoukas:he's like oh we're basically doing Rocky Horror for Gangsters I mean I thought he was doing like a version of Clue as well like he knows how to do it to your point June this is how Marissa Tomei got my cousin Vinny this is how Marissa Tomei got my cousin Vinny I think it's pronounced Vizzy Vizzy my cousin Vizzy because the director came on set saw her and was like got it she got the part. Wow, I was wondering if it was before or after. Wow, cool. The other movie That's cool. The other movie I want to shout out because it's a it's so much more of a successful version of this is Johnny Dangerously.
13:02Oh, yeah. Only a couple of fans of Johnny Dangerously. Johnny Dangerously is great. Those are the old people Gen X represent. Here is what was missing. Aside from pace, timing, energy. costumes that 45 minutes that 45 minutes you're talking about could have been accounted for if everybody just sped up a little bit but I do think there was one other thing that's missing from this and those are the stakes for slaps what is Sly's name snaps snaps snaps
13:35Jason Mantzoukas:but by the way he could be called slaps because he does threaten with a lot of slaps snaps provolone provolone I think what was missing and could have made this a great, fun movie. Well, maybe it was some different actors, too, in certain parts. But if he, the entire time, if we really understood that he's struggling to stay on the straight and narrow, that he is, it's an internal conflict, and he wants so badly to, you know, be a stand-up guy and not be a criminal, and that is not present. Not at all. We hear it is and we hear, don't call me boss, sorry boss. But other than that refrain, which happens probably 50 times, we don't ever feel the comedy of him trying not to.
14:28Well, they don't allow it because the time frame the movie takes place in is one day. Yeah. Really a morning because the bankers are arriving at noon. Yes, you're right.
14:38Jason Mantzoukas:So this movie is a movie that takes place in real time. Yeah. Yeah. This is basically... This is... I mean, because he gets up a little before 9. The bankers are arriving at 11. I think this movie is in real time. Stallone thinks he's making Andre Rublev, I think. Now you can watch ESPN College Game Day and select live college football games on Disney+. All day, every Saturday, at no extra cost for Disney+. Subscribers. Now there's something for every kind of fan. Select live college football games are now on Disney+. It's going to be wild! A limited sampling of content from ESPN is now available to all Disney+.
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18:37Jason Mantzoukas:I just think that that was such an odd choice that he was not doing anything. And then the accountant also seemed to be pretty modern as well. But then everybody else around them was nothing but in, like, full-on, like, oh, my gosh, my company has a retreat. It's a murder mystery. We all have to play along with these actors. Everybody else in the movie is a murderer. Like a powerhouse. I mean, the cast is... Chaz Palminteri. Chaz Palminteri. Peter Reigert. Don Amici. Kurtwood Smith. Clarence Boddicker himself. William Atherton's in this movie. Tim Curry. Marissa Tomei. I mean, it's a... Everybody is a home run hitter.
19:25And Stallone is like, shut up, shut up, shut up. Slow down. Everybody slow down. meet me where I am. There's also, one of the things I found fascinating about his work in this is there's no increased frustration as this goes on. There's no, nothing builds toward, the way he starts when he's irritated, he woke up before 9 a.m., which also I was like, you're planning on being a legitimate banker, like, you gotta get up earlier. Like, that's... What is he doing? There's such a thing as banker's hours. You gotta get up earlier. Let's start there. But he's irritated. He's the same level of irritation in that moment as he is in the third act when the bags have been switched out 12 times.
20:14I mean, at some point, get a new bag. Put a sticker on it. Or tie a scarf around it. Or every time you exchange bags, take a peek. How about you deserve to lose it all if you refuse to just... Take a peek. Peep that bag. Peek it when it leaves and peek it when it arrives.
20:39Jason Mantzoukas:Double peek. You gotta... Twin peaks.
20:45Jason Mantzoukas:Now, I will say that the line that really jumped out at me was when someone said, keep in mind, it's 1931. Like, why would you ever say that to a human in 1931 because they need to justify that Marissa Tomei is having sex out of marriage. They're like, now keep in mind, it's 1931. This is odd. You should have been like winking at the camera. Get it? Weird times. Did anybody else feel like that first scene with Marissa Tomei and Stallone where she is giving him the lie that she is pregnant in order to hopefully be able to marry her love, the never-seen Oscar. Wait, so Oscar, just quickly. So who is the man who showed up at the very end of the wedding?
21:37Oscar. That's Oscar. That's Oscar. That's Oscar. Oh, okay, forget it. You were saying you didn't see him either.
21:46Jason Mantzoukas:No, I saw him. I was saying, but he just shows up for a... There's no... It's inconsequential. Right. Of course, but that is Oscar. Yes. Yes. Okay. But you would think that Oscar, you would think that the name Oscar would be said from the beginning, like it's dropped in... It would have been fine if he was referenced, if it wasn't the title of the movie. Of course. That's what's strange. It's fine if he's just absent the whole time and then shows up at the end, but for it to be the title of the movie tells me this person has true significance. I originally called this movie The Banker's Dilemma.
22:22On what planet does Stallone, Stallone, knowing everything we know about Stallone, allow himself to be in a movie where the name on the movie is not his character's name.
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22:32Jason Mantzoukas:I believe that he thought, and I'm Oscar, because he didn't read the script, and I think that he is walking through the movie going, wait, what? You're telling me I'm not Oscar? Whoa, whoa, what is this? I'm Oscar? I'm Oscar. Hey. Why am I talking about Oscar? I'm Oscar. I guess I was a little confused though When Marissa Tomei Who again I was obsessed with her performance But she didn't look 18 years old Unless I You know that was a little troubling It's 1931 It is 1931 after all So teenagers look like They're 27 Because their life expectancy was so short Of course But when she talks to him in that first scene This is where I was getting turned around She does say she's in love with Anthony, though.
23:26No. No. She just says she's in love. It is a unspoken. So that's a miscommunication. It's unspoken. She thinks he's talking about Oscar? Yep. That's classic farce. That's farce. And he thinks he's... That's farce. Yes.
23:40Jason Mantzoukas:And that's farce. And that might be the t-shirt at this point. Did you feel like in that scene, didn't you feel like in that scene they had romantic chemistry? Well... This is like the second movie we've done where Stallone and his daughter have overtly romantic chemistry. There was a moment when she goes, look at me, and she opens up her nightgown. Now, he's like, don't, no, but he never takes his eyes off of her. Are you kidding? He has his eyes on her the entire, he's like, no, no, no, no. And I feel like Landis was like, cut, sly, you gotta not look right at her. All right, all right, all right, let's go again.
24:26She's a beautiful girl. And then it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And she's a beautiful girl.
24:32Jason Mantzoukas:She showed me her body. I have to respect her. To be fair, it's Marissa Tomei. Like, I couldn't take my eyes off the screen. I was like, can I stare at this forever? She's so wonderful. But also, I did have to question, like, is she okay? And has she, has she legitimate, as a character, and has she been literally locked? Is this the room? Has she been locked in this room? It feels like he's not letting her out, but she also is a good girl because, I mean, again, I don't know what's going on. How do you define a good girl?
25:15that's just rolled around she is a good girl as if that is is that a phrase
25:22Jason Mantzoukas:she's a good girl keep in mind it's 1931 no but like so she only does hand stuff but no but she doesn't seem to be like she she's so wide-eyed and innocent like she wants to do all this fun stuff she's not misbehaving like she is very content to be locked in that room She wants out of the room, but she's not sneaking around. I guess she's sneaking around. She's sneaking around. She's fucking Oscar. But Oscar seems to be in the army. Yes, Oscar has left. Oscar has left for a while. If he's returning from the army, Oscar has been gone for a long time. Yeah, I don't think she's actually having sex with Oscar.
26:03She's not. And I don't think that makes her a good girl or not a good girl. It makes her a very good girl.
26:09Jason Mantzoukas:A very good girl. Please don't let that be the t-shirt I'm a very good girl With your face
26:25Jason Mantzoukas:No, but She doesn't seem to be driving him crazy In the world of The Tony Danza movie She's out of control She seems like she is abiding by The house rules And that's also so equally weird. But where I think this movie also goes off on tangents is when Stallone wants to add his own jokes in. I wrote one joke that he said that I was so confused by. He said, your pimples will clear up after you date that guy. His pimples will clear up. No, the guy's pimples. The guy's pimples will clear up after he spends time with her. What does that mean? I don't know. She's going to fuck the pimples right off him?
27:12And also, asking for a friend, does that work?
27:17Jason Mantzoukas:Like, I didn't even understand, like, does he equate, like, oily skin or combination skin with the lack of sex? Combination. Or was, like, I don't even know if he was... Keep in mind, it's 1931. Right. Acne was different back then. But that, like, to me feels like a Stallone-ism. And the whole movie has these Stallone-isms, like, when he is having breakfast, like, this big gangster, not a gangster anymore but banker he's making waffles he's eating waffles with peanut butter which seemed not like a cool thing like not a man like this mafia boss has waffles for breakfast just seemed weird to me i feel like i feel like but he's like it's funny waffles are funny he doesn't have waffles are like weird pancakes like i feel like he was like that was his choice Like, I feel like, I don't know.
28:08All of his joke stuff, too, because he's got bits with Chaz Palminteri and Peter Reigert, who are his kind of right-hand man. And they keep pulling guns on people. And his whole bit is he's going legit. He's going to become a banker. He promised his dad on his dad's deathbed that he wouldn't be a gangster anymore, that he was going to go straight. Right? And then they keep pulling guns out. And it's this thing where he should be like, hey, what are you doing? Get that gun out of here. Oh, and then he's got another one. This guy's got a gun. Ba-ba-boop-ba-beep. And instead, will you pull out a gun for me?
28:37Yeah. Whoa. What did I say? No guns. What is this gad? It's slow. It's so slow. There's no rat-a-tat-tat dialogue, except for the people who are doing it, who stand out because he sounds like what you're saying, modern in his Stallone, but everybody else is doing crazy screwball comedy.
29:05Jason Mantzoukas:Well, let's look at scene five. Scene five is probably the best version of Stallone doing his rat-a-tat-tat. This is like the who's-on-first routine with Chaz Palminteri. Snaps, are you sure there was cash in that bag? Yeah, little Antony stole it. If little Antony stole it, then he's got it. No, you black kid, he stole it. Then he gave it back to me. Why'd he give it back to you? To buy back the jewels. What jewels? The jewels he stole from me. He stole jewels from you too? Yeah, so he could marry my daughter. Lisa! That Lisa Teresa. How come nobody's never met this daughter, Teresa? Because she's not my daughter, capisce?
29:41Yeah. Your daughter's not your daughter. And the cash that used to be the jewels is now your underwear. Now you got it. I got it. I don't even know what I'm talking about.
29:55That should be a blast to watch. You know, like, in Johnny Dangerously, if that was Michael Keaton? Yeah. And Chaz Palminteri? Come on. Electric. Come on. But no. But no. One note I have. One single note. I wish, because Nora, the maid's bag, is sort of, it's turned over and all of her stuff comes out multiple times in the movie, I wish it was just a bunch of underwear. Yeah. Instead, like, really big granny panty style underwear. Instead, it was just like a bunch of slips and all sorts of things. It felt like laundry. Stockings. And stockings, yeah.
30:39Jason Mantzoukas:One bank pervert, though. I love that moment. I love that moment. There's a bunch of jokes that work. It's just that Sly's not involved in any of it. Why would he be taking your underwear? It's not his underwear. When Stallone, the moment that I know Stallone put in this movie is the moment where he's so put upon, he strikes a Christ on the cross pose on the mantle of his mansion like, I can't get your break. I was like, what the fuck is this guy up to? Oh, I'm like Christ on the cross. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. You know, if you could wake up tomorrow and be better at one thing, what would that one thing be?
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35:24Jason Mantzoukas:I'm mad. The joke, one of the jokes that I genuinely liked was the Chaz Palminteri weapons dump. Me too. Great. We've seen it in other movies too, but it works great here. When he pulls out a literal bomb that is ticking, I was like, give me this all day, every day a shot with no humans in it just heighteningly hilarious objects poison a mace like a bear trap a mini gun but there is like this whole movie and again i guess it yeah i understand it's a farce we have to get confused by it but it seems like the movie is angry that it can't figure out the plot like like a farce supposed to be fun like oh my gosh i can't believe that that person walked in with.
36:13Jason Mantzoukas:This movie's like, oh, why is that person walking in on this scene? Like, it does feel like you're trying to wrestle control in a bad way. It's so true because I think in a perfect farce, we should actually not lose control of the bags in the way that we were forced to lose track of the bags because Nora's coming, she's going, now the chauffeur's here, now he's gone. The bats are often taken off screen. That's what I'm saying. We don't even see it. Right. Like, we don't see when they're removed. So it was so difficult to enjoy. And also, it's difficult to enjoy because what's fun about a farce is how out of control the lead character is.
37:01The events of the movie are happening to them at such a clip. Behind each door is another person who wants to complicate his life more and more and more, right? And what's fun is watching that person, if it's Kevin Kline or if it's something, just be completely underwater. It's no fun to watch Sly underwater because he doesn't want to be there. He's like, I need this to stop right now. You're right. He's mad and he wants to be in control too much. Yeah. He's a bad boy, not a good girl.
37:39Jason Mantzoukas:That is true. Bad boy. Bad boy with a good girl. This, like, idea that he's going straight, I'm also lost on that plot. Like, I mean, yes, I get that he's going straight, but to buy a bank? Is he buying a bank? He's trying to get on the board of the bank. He just wants a seat on the board. He wants to be legit. He wants to be in the room where it happens. Yeah, but what I think you're getting to, which I was confused by as well, is, but what next? So you have a seat on the board. You open up an account there with your money that I guess is dirty money. How do you plan on generating more revenue in the future?
38:25I couldn't get a handle on what his... It does seem like he is going straight legit. He's not like, oh, and my guys will keep the business going in the background or something. He's not like the kingpin or something like that. But he also, the movie, actually, the movie's just not, doesn't have enough time to get us there. Even though we inexplicably, yeah, we inexplicably cut to a scene inside the bank. One of the only out of the house scenes is in the bank boardroom where it's like William Atherton and the White Shadow and a bunch of other people are there. and they're talking about like, oh, do we want him to be at the bank?
39:02Do we want his dirty money? And I'm like, why are we part of this decision? This doesn't help us at all. And yeah, they hate poor people. And it was a long scene, wasn't it? Yeah. To give us what the inner workings of the bank so that when they show up, we're like, oh, it's the hateful bankers that we saw earlier
39:28Jason Mantzoukas:who also are trying to screw him over. I mean, again, it's overcomplicating a plot that's super simple, which is the one day he's got to be relaxed, he's stressed out. That doesn't happen at all. The threat being that, oh, no, he has to settle all of his business before the bankers come is not present at all. What does he have to do? The ticking clock is not... What should have happened is he should have, Dr. Poole and all, he should have been obsessed with looking legit, acting legit, having a family that looked legit, having his employees look legit. So that when they arrive at 11 a.m., again, the movie actually must speed up somewhere.
40:16No, I guess it is in real time because it's just before nine. But he should have been obsessed with appearances and making sure that he looks like a person who could have a board seat at this bank. And what if there was like a newspaper person or someone who could hold him accountable who would be around? But nobody was doing that. Everybody in the movie, until the bankers arrive, are part of his inner circle.
40:40Jason Mantzoukas:But who he's nervous about having around is an accountant. Thank you, Ben Affleck. Who is very nicely dressed. Everyone's nicely dressed. It doesn't look like a bunch of mob guys coming in the house. If he wanted that, he should have kicked all those goons out of the house earlier in the day. But who would wake him up? I guess that's true. I mean, you know, like that. But there's nothing wrong in the house. Like his wife is in the house. This accountant's in the house. His daughter's in the house. and then this other very well-dressed daughter is in the house in another room. I think she was, see, that was her costumes will haunt me because I don't think she's supposed to be well-dressed.
41:20I think, Paul, but I, but, and you said very well-dressed. Yes. So I actually think she is meant to look like a peasant person. She's supposed to look like a normal person. Got it, okay. And Marissa Tomei is, I believe, supposed to be like. Got it. She is essentially like a street urchin. Got it. And so. Her name's Teresa? Yeah. Teresa is trash.
41:47Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's a shirt. But Teresa being trash to me is interesting because Teresa meets this accountant who is very well to do and goes, oh, yeah, my dad is Provolone, but the accountant works for Provolone. That's just a coincidence. but doesn't ever, has never seen this man. And like, he is a notorious gangster mobster in Chicago. Wait, you're saying she should know who he is? No. Oh, well, yes. Well, I won't even get into that. She says she names him because she sees him in the newspaper. Yes, but I'm talking about the accountant should, oh, I guess. He does know him, though. He does know him.
42:31Jason Mantzoukas:But it just seems to me that if you're the accountant for this man who has one daughter, you would know that that daughter is Marissa Tone. Unless that daughter is trapped up in a room. She's Rapunzel style. Doesn't she even say Rapunzel? I think so. Something like that? So she really is, now it's a darker movie that I'm really disturbed by. That's what I'm saying. She seems to be trapped up there. She's like flowers in the attic. That's why when she presents, yes. She's like flowers in the attic. She's not having incest with anybody. But is she? But is she? With Stallone. With Stallone. because the way she presents her body to him like it's a gift is very crazy.
43:09It's very Flowers in the Attic coated.
43:12Jason Mantzoukas:I didn't realize that that was what Flowers in the Attic was about. What did you think it was about? I thought it was about a bunch of kids who were trapped in an attic. Did you read it? No, my mom read it. She's like, you got to read this book. You got to read this book.
43:34The story started as like a trifle of misunderstanding, and then the reveal was chilling. I'm so glad you didn't read it.
43:47Jason Mantzoukas:My mom's like, it's a good book. You got to read it. It's got a lot of good ideas in it. It was more awkward now knowing that because I didn't have any brothers or sisters. I guess I just had to go fuck myself But I always remember that image Okay, so, got it Check Movies about But I think that what you're confused about with Teresa Is her clothes were So white And crisp Her bonnet Her bonnet that She did I know we were meant to see her As a street urchin, and I did but the costumes were really confusing. I do think she should have played more urchin-like. She should have made a stronger choice.
44:41Jason Mantzoukas:Knock, knock, knock at this rich gangster's house. She's like, hey, anyway, let me tell you what I did. So I told this guy that you're my dad. What does she want from that? Like, what does she even want from, like, what is he going to do? He's also has no, nobody is really scared of him. He is Al Capone. He is like a, they refer to him numerous times as a murderer, as like a gangster. He is capable of extreme violence, but yet everybody treats him like he's the ineffectual dad in a sitcom. Yeah. He's like the mayor of the block.
45:22Jason Mantzoukas:He's block mayor. But yeah, that's why the opening scene is funny Because he never seems violent The only thing that you can kind of pull over At one point they're like, I came over to your house on Valentine's Day Wait, he did say he came over on Valentine's Day And that's when he met his daughter So wait, how was that street urchin in the house on Valentine's Day? So Anthony met his daughter on Valentine's Day? On Valentine's Day Anthony says he met Anthony... Oh, at a speakeasy. An after-hours speakeasy. That urchin got in there? Anybody can get in a speakeasy. Not the urchins. You want to keep them out.
46:06Jason Mantzoukas:They don't got no money. Somehow the urchin has to be the shirt. I mean, it's got... I mean, this has got to be the most we've said urchin ever. She's dressed like the urchin. Wait, who? We got an urchin? She's over there. Where? Where's the urchin? You're obscured by the pole. But yeah, there you are.
46:31Oh, yeah, I see her. I see her. Where? Where's the urchin? Right there. Stand up again. Stand up. She's right there. Stand up, urchin. Oh, she looks great. Nice. Give it up for the urchin. She looks great. Thank you.
46:48You didn't know I had a flashlight, Canada. I really wish now maybe there was a scene I did have to speed things up at the end because you hid my makeup bag in the room and I couldn't find it for 15 minutes I'll step out for a moment I thought I was helping you out I took your makeup bag out of your room he unpacked my bag without my consent and then I frantically was looking for things I love that you refer to that as hiding things literally put it he unpacked for you while you were napping and you're like, you hid my makeup bag. I got a frantic message from June being like, is there makeup anywhere around at the theater or any place?
47:27Jason Mantzoukas:Literally put it in the bathroom on her side so you would have it in there. I didn't look in the bathroom because I hadn't unpacked yet. So why would I even look in there? I was taking everything out. Try to be helpful. I wish this movie had had bodies. I wish Stallone's guys were killing people. There were bodies in rooms, so they had to keep moving bodies and not just bags. The movie doesn't heighten. That's a great idea. Right? Right? That's what the movie... That's a great idea. The movie needed stakes. And there was no stakes for anybody. The idea that... I loved that he says that the suit makers are killers and that Anthony believes the suit makers are killers.
48:09That's funny. That was a funny sequence. I loved it. And then they're playing the four-handed piano. I was like, I don't know why, but this is working so much better than the rest of the movie.
48:19Jason Mantzoukas:Yep. Now, I will say the other part, while Tim Curry was great, I have nothing bad to say about Tim Curry at all. The elocution scene was flawed, in my opinion, because Stallone doesn't really get it. Like, when he gets it, it's still going to be a little bit like that. I totally agree. He just said it. Right. He didn't articulate anything. No, right. He just repeated the words. Right. No, you're so right. Because then it made me think, is that the exercise? Well, that was the thing. To just hear a phrase and repeat it. Well, that's what I was like. Because he should have almost had like a hoity-toity British accent or something.
49:03Jason Mantzoukas:Stallone should have. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But he just... Now you said something like that. Well, Tim Curry's also doing... He's like rolling his R. is like rough and ready. And I'm like, is Stallone ever going to do this? It makes me feel like, and it's not the case, but that Tim Curry's character is like just stealing money from Stallone. It's like, I would believe that Tim Curry was a con man. Let Tim Curry be a con man who's conning him out of money. Make everybody have like duplicitous motives. But that's a scene like when you're the director, like we didn't get it. Let's cut that scene. Yeah, Landis.
49:39Jason Mantzoukas:Let's cut that scene out because it does, like he doesn't appear any different. He doesn't appear any different. He doesn't approach the bankers. He's just able to hear the phrase and repeat it. And repeat it back. So. Which makes me want to see a sequel that's just at that elocution school that he starts. Or I want to see like I would like a sequel that is just Tim Curry like out in Europe. Where is he going? Belgium? Like Tim Curry's character Doctor. Yes. Doctor. What's his name in Brussels? Pool. Dr. Tim Pool. Let's go to the audience. Let's see what the audience has to say about this film.
50:16Careful.
50:18Jason Mantzoukas:Careful, Paul. Hi, how are you? Hi, what's your name? My name's Samaya. Okay, I'll hold the microphone, Samaya. All right, so Samaya, what's your question? My question is that seeing this film and seeing the elocution scenes between Dr. Pool and Angela, would this film work better as like a My Fair Lady scenario? And we just focus on that? Well, I'm so sorry. Repeat it one more time as a what? What scenario? A My Fair Lady scenario. Yes, exactly. Yes, it could be a My Fair Lady. It wouldn't work because the rain in Spain falls, right? Well, I think the movie kind of wants to be that, where he should be going through a full makeover.
51:01This is a makeover movie.
51:03Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, but the difference. But the thing is. Stallone. Okay, sorry. The difference with this movie is that in My Fair Lady, she's putting on that kind of voice, and then she gets to her normal voice. Here, Stallone is not losing that voice. Well, not only is he not losing that voice, I don't think Stallone wants his character to change at all. I think he wants him to be the same. Because it's almost like the Matthew McConaughey quote, which is like, I don't play bad guys who become good. I play good guys who become great. Wow. Real quote. Real quote. And that's, I feel like, with Stallone, I don't think can occupy a character who needs to be different because that tells him...
51:50That's vulnerable. That tells him the original character is wrong. Right. And I don't think Stallone plays guys who are wrong.
51:56Jason Mantzoukas:The new prime minister of Canada is here. Oh. Great. Congratulations on your recent election victory. It's a finucci. Okay. I love it. It's a finucci. Oh, it's a Fanucci. It's a Fanucci. I love this. He went to Fanucci. All right. Thanks, boss. Thanks, boss. Hey, not boss. Mister, what is he doing? All right, so what's your question? All right, so John Landis originally wanted either Al Pacino or Danny DeVito to play snaps. but I read that Sylvester Stallone considers this his second worst performance after Stop or My Mom Will Shoot, which he was tricked into signing onto by Arnold Schwarzenegger.
52:44Jason Mantzoukas:So my question to you is, would this have been a better movie, like a little bit more straight with Pacino or DeVito, or if Stallone got back and tricked Schwarzenegger to be the lead for Mickey Blue Eisner?
52:58Now, first of all, great, great question.
53:03Jason Mantzoukas:I do think that Schwarzenegger would actually deliver a better movie than this. I think so, too. Arnold is funny. Full stop. And Stallone is not. And I love, there's so many Stallone movies I love, but none of them are funny. He doesn't have a light touch. And ironically, Arnold, for as much bulk and heft as he is, has a genuine light touch. It can have a genuine light touch of things. And just to add a little detail to your detail, Al Pacino was in pre-production on this movie until Dick Tracy offered him$20 million a piece and walked out. And then they had to frantically cast Stallone. By the way, I would have loved Pacino in this.
53:43The setup for this movie is good. The concept is not flawed. The execution is flawed.
53:48Jason Mantzoukas:And just one more detail on top of that. The original movie was announced in 1978 with Danny DeVito. this is wait 78 with devito yes so that's like very that's like cuckoo's nest devito that's pre-taxi yeah that's or no that's just at taxi okay hi sir how are you what's your name jeremy what's your question um as an accounting teacher um i didn't get any bit but um i'm wondering little anthony i think his name is the account he consistently steals $50 ,000 or$50 ,000 worth of jewels every like 15 minutes and he's not really scared to tell a gangster or a form gangster at all and then how many more times has he stolen money he hasn't even told them yet he has all these scams and he's like this is a real accountant's question well the scams didn't seem to be stealing jewels the scams seem to be by cooking the books a little bit No, no, he's got the bag of jewels.
54:51Yeah, I guess I have a question for you. Why did he convert to jewels?
55:01Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, do you tell your clients to convert to jewels? Well, I have students, I don't have clients, but I got it. Should we be moving to a jewel-based economy? Yeah, I know we're off crypto, but... Now, this movie would posit that it's complicated because people could grab your bag of jewels and then you're done. Now here's the question. Oh, this actually, this is perfect for you. Right now, because we're in such turmoil, right? Especially where we're from. Like, should we be moving more towards a jewel-based economy or a women's underwear-based economy?
55:39I know where I come down. I know where I come down, but I want to hear an expert's opinion. You better say underwear. Depends. How liquid is the... This guy gets it!
55:58All right. Yeah. My money's soaking wet. I got 300 bucks sopping wet bucks. This is such a small detail, but was anyone else disturbed that that giant bag of jewels just had just one flat layer of jewels on the bottom. Like, I didn't know why we weren't opening it up to, like, light from within with this giant, like, all of these jewels everywhere. It was, like, just one layer.
56:34Jason Mantzoukas:And also, how do you get that amount of, like, he must have gone to a lot of different jewelry stores. I don't know. It just didn't seem like a great way to convert. I don't know. Money is always good. It's 1931. Oh, that's true. You got to remember that. The banks, there's been a run on the banks. Your name, your question. Hi, my name is Brian. So I have one question and one sort of observation. The question is, is the original stage play has a lot of similarities as far as the plot points are concerned, but a lot of differences, particularly with the characters. The main one being that there is no mob angle and Provolone is a soap salesman.
57:10so could this movie have possibly been worse if he played it like they were in the original play that if he were a soap salesman huh i mean the stakes would be a lot lower um it's so hard because i mean he sort of was playing it as a soap salesman like there was no real threat to him you know, coming off of him and it never felt like he was really going to hurt anyone or suppressing those instincts. So if he, so did you read the play? Yes, I actually read the play two days ago for a theater company I'm a part of. We're considering doing it as a production next season. Wait, what?
57:50Jason Mantzoukas:Wow. That is commitment, Toronto. What? It seems like it could be a funny play. I mean, the French farce is a real hit. Yeah, the play is actually quite funny. it's also a lot longer than the movie, which means everybody will have to commit to speaking fast. Another big difference was the Tim Carey character. He's his personal masseuse. Okay, that's fine. So it's 1931. Soap business is good for soap salesmen. So if there isn't the gangster element, it's just the farce of the mistaken daughters and so forth because there isn't a going straight... Correct. Okay, got it. But what is he trying to accomplish during the day?
58:32Jason Mantzoukas:Nothing. Now that is a play. So, everybody, here, Toronto, it sounds like it's going to be up soon. Yeah. You guys are going to have an opportunity. God, I would love if Had This Get Made just started a production shingle where we just produced plays based on the movies. By the way, yeah. Interesting. Even if we, I don't know. Oh, and maybe he could answer it. Even if we were to do a stage reading of the play. Of the play. And the play should be quite different in the same way it's a soap salesman. Like, it's not a one-to-one. You know what? We'll talk to Stallone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll talk to Stallone.
59:17We'll see if we can get something going. All right.
59:19Jason Mantzoukas:I want to say, Paul, wherever you are, this theater is gorgeous. I am up in the mid-balcony. That's right. Mid-balcony. Is that what you call it here? Mid-balcony? You don't call it the mez? Technically, we had this debate before the show started. Technically, seats are on sale for the balcony. That is the gallery above us. That's the gallery? Above us is the gallery. Wait a second. So for maybe the first time in history, we have gallery monsters?
59:59Wow. Wow. Absolutely terrifying.
1:00:04Jason Mantzoukas:Balcony versus gallery. That might be the shirt as well. Yeah. All right. Your name, your question. Hi, my name is Emily, and I actually did some research, and I managed to find, and it's going to follow with a question. Okay. Globe and Mail and the New York Times had an article in November of 1990. Fire Guts part of Universal Studio, One of the few films that was shooting at the time was this film, and their publicist said, we lost 21 vintage cars, the camera equipment, props, and every bit of wardrobe. Was this a hit? Okay. I know this story. Yes. the security guard who was in charge of the old cars set a fire at universal to steal the cars he was arrested for that but the production had to shoot like shut down for two weeks as they had to rebuild everything for this movie wow so that explains his office in the movie they were they were only left with purple lights yeah i want to point out we have three balcony monsters and there are three balcony monsters get this camera look at this what balcony monster shirts yeah oh yeah together all right fantastic and soon enough we'll have gallery monster shirts hopefully all right all right you feel like you got something come on over here you come on all right i saw the two hands waving which sometimes in the states means stay away but i feel like in canada there's more passion or yes what's your name what's your question hi there i've actually been gifted a mafia name okay so my name is the fist lindsey the fist you've been gifted that by whom um a co-worker of mine who is not of italian descent i'm of italian descent i'm here with my cugini over here oh wow i'm also of italian descent it is you know it is a good question though i mean i i or an interesting topic like i don't know if you are if you give someone their name?
1:02:16Do you or is it like I don't think you choose it. Like the Pope? Wait, what do you mean? Well, yeah, he chooses his own name. No, I think it is, I think in those situations like gangster, I think it is given to you usually as a you know, like a big guy gets called tiny or whatever.
1:02:35Jason Mantzoukas:If you cut off people's pinkies they call them pinky. Yeah, so super quick question, Lindsay. How'd you get the fist? Gotta ask as your in the balcony, so we all assume. She says, I can't tell you. You won't tell us. Okay. Do you have a question? I have two small questions. One is for June. What did you think about the wedding gowns at the end? I wanted to get your opinion on those. So, of course, at the end, I was searching for my makeup bag. Behind you, June. I didn't. I'm sorry? Behind you. Oh. Oh, I love them. Oh, I love them. They look great. Yeah, I think they look amazing. We don't wear spats anymore.
1:03:24I mean, I have to say, Marissa Tomei, and I know she's been in other time periods and she always looks amazing right now, but this, there was something about her in 1931 where she, boy, is this an era she can wear? Yeah, it's very compelling. It's her in this and it's Marcia Gay Barton in Miller's Crossing Come on
1:03:49Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, your second question Did you guys notice how the only song they played Was the Barber of Seville Like the aria And then the trailer was the overture I don't understand how that connects Any opera people here that would be like Is that thematically a choice? Yes Let me go over Is there an opera singer here? Who said yes? Wait, is the little claymation guy here? All right. The little claymation guy. This is actually really upsetting. He killed one of the California raisins. Been in jail for, I think, since 1994. He was one of those people that Landis used a lot, and I think he was in the helicopter.
1:04:36Jason. Okay. interesting reaction canada jason to the death of a claymation character yes you guys you guys are too touchy eh i'm sorry you fucking idiots all right so you are
1:04:59Jason Mantzoukas:our resident opera expert you can just take that you don't have to justify that you are you're not but I'm calling you our opera expert. How is it thematically tied? Well, I actually am the opera administrator for U of T. For St. Toronto. Yes! You are! Yes! So, yeah, I work, anyway. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Start talking again. You were getting an applause break that you talked through. Yeah, no, no, no. I actually just started that job, but anyway, I was a stage manager on opera. So the Barbara of Seville, that's the Bugs Bunny, the Figaro, Figaro, Figaro. That's what that is, right? So that's like one of the most famous like Ofra, like Buffon, like the Boofs, right?
1:05:42And so that premise is that this guy wants Count Almaviva, sorry, wants to marry this woman. But he has to pretend to be a piano, like a voice teacher to then go in and trick the guy who is in charge of her. Like that's his ward.
1:06:00Jason Mantzoukas:Because she's a good girl. She's a good girl. She's such a good girl. I like it less when Paul says it in the audience.
1:06:10But yeah, she's such a good girl that she's like, yeah, whatever, I guess I have to marry the man who's like my dad, sort of. So it's very much like the vibes of Sylvester Stallone
1:06:20Jason Mantzoukas:and Bartolo want to fuck their daughter or their ward. And that's from an opera person. Wow. Great work. Great work. support the U of T opera.
1:06:41Maybe you can combine with his play company and you guys can do an operatic version of the play that is this movie. All right.
1:06:51Jason Mantzoukas:We'll produce it. That could be something. All right, yes. You have some notes. What do you have? Okay. So first of all, has anyone noticed how Stallone can't say his own last name. Provolone. Prevolone. B. I thought you meant Stallone. I was like, oh, wow, really? I've never heard him say that either. Did anyone also clock all of the things that Marissa Tomei wanted to do? I love that list. That's a funny list. Do you have that list? I do. Swim in the English Channel, shop in Paris, lay on a beach in Honolulu, ride a Zeppelin, attend a Rudy Valley show, go to an African safari, run with the bulls in Spain, climb the Empire State Building, and go to an opium den in Chinatown.
1:07:38Jason Mantzoukas:That was my favorite one. I loved the opium den one, too. I was like, oh, maybe she's not a dot, dot, dot good girl after all. She didn't know. So now, your name, your question. No, Lisa. Okay, and what's your question? At the beginning, we learn that the maid is running off to get married. And then towards the end, we find out that the maid that has brought in to replace the other one is the mother of the daughter. So after the wedding, do you think she becomes their maid? That's such a great question. Because she does need to work. He's no longer paying child support. or maybe he's paying like back child support for what he didn't pay for.
1:08:24He just found out. He didn't know he had child support. Okay, first of all, I know he didn't know, but she did raise Teresa on her own for 18 years. He's got to pay up. Oh, yeah. It definitely seems like he is not, he is interested in her being his daughter. He's not trying to like get rid of her. Yes, he's not trying to disown her. And I think he did, Well, he didn't give her her own wedding.
1:08:55The movie couldn't support two weddings. That's true. That's true. But yeah, it's such a great question because I really would love to see a world in which she's no longer working as a maid. Certainly not as his maid. I don't think she will be. I don't think she will be because I think she is now his... Okay, wait a minute. his ex-lover well yes but also her daughter has now married the accountant? yes god damn it I don't even care about this movie well but I guess the question is at the end of the movie while I was looking for my makeup bag does he does he go back to a life of crime? yes I'm actually glad to hear that because that means that I feel like she's not going back to Maid's work that he's hopefully going to support her.
1:09:51I think so. Great. I think that's in the cars.
1:09:54Jason Mantzoukas:But she gets killed in the crossfire during a very violent I don't want to get into it but there was an issue. They think that he's in the car. They kill her. Kurtwood Smith shoots her in the head. Well obviously we had opinions about this movie but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for Second Opinions.
1:10:15hi i'm piper hi piper one piper no i knew it i gotta i gotta fiber no i'm sorry piper i interrupted you that's okay one two three four five that's how many stars that i give this ride you've got angelo anthony connie sophia gangsters going straight and a child bride named lisa Dr. Poole and his nicely rounded diphthongs Guido butlering and Nora accents all wrong A little of Teresa telling lies A little bit of math that goes awry A couple dangling participles in your face A little bit of yelling out of place A little bit of Oscar at the end A whole lot of snapping at your friends A little bit of accents gone all wrong A little bit of my second opinion.
1:11:11Yes!
1:11:12Jason Mantzoukas:Great work. Wow. Piper No! Nailed it. Yeah, absolutely. Now the Toronto. That was a great one. What a great way to end it. I feel like on three we can all say Piper No, right? One, two, three. Piper No! I loved it. I loved it. I didn't recognize. Those were great songs. Some of the songs I didn't recognize, I assume they're all tragically hip songs.
1:11:43We don't know their songs. But I know Sloan.
1:11:50Jason Mantzoukas:You all did fantastic. I saw Lubega perform at the Hard Rock Live. He did five songs. Three of them were Mambo No. 5. Not a joke. I was going to say, were they Mambo's one through five? I wish. He opened with Mambo number five, got a great response, did another song, didn't really do well, then did Mambo number five, then left the stage and came out and encored with Mambo number five. And I got to tell you, each time it got better and better. All right. These are reviews from Amazon. There are 3 ,175 reviews on Amazon. Hold on to your butts when I tell you, 87 % are five-star reviews.
1:12:40Jason Mantzoukas:From Celeste Skycop, she writes back in 2014, title, I Hate Sly, but I Love This Movie. I hate Sly, but I love this movie. I first saw it in the theater on a date, and I didn't even notice my date had gotten sick and gone to the bathroom for most of the movie. It is a cute plot with intricate dialogue. My family quotes lines from it all the time. Five stars. Can you imagine being so obsessed, so enthralled with this movie that you didn't notice your date abandoned you for the bathroom? Rough stuff. But now they have four kids and they're very happy. Rachel W. Titles her review a classic That's so highly quotable This is written back in 2023 This movie is a family favorite I'm not sure why it's not more well known The dialogue is fantastic And Alyssa Milano Sylvester Stallone And Tim Curry Are an absolute delight
1:13:52Incredible Incredible.
1:13:58Jason Mantzoukas:This movie is the reason that my siblings and I have told each other for years, shut up with your face, Mussolini. The design and the costumes also make this appealing to watch. There's no bad language or nudity, making it a great choice for family movie night. I'll never get tired of this movie. Five stars. Wow. Hightower. Wait, from Police Academy? Yes. Whoa. Pretty cool. Super cool. In 2022 writes, this, all of it is bullet points, by the way. This is unlike anything Sylvester Stallone has ever done. And it's marvelous. The plot, although adult content, is engaging. Star-studded cast, impressive.
1:14:51Jason Mantzoukas:of. Family and I enjoyed it while keeping up with the characters. There is slapstick, clever situational, ironic humor throughout the entire movie. The time slash era is authentic. It seems like the cast has a mesmerizing chemistry. I've seen this movie ten times, and I still laugh out loud. Surprisingly funny, very well done film, and definitely rewatchable. My family and I love this movie. Five stars. Wow. This one is the one I want to end on. From Joseph Voldness. In 2020, he writes, if you haven't seen this, you should. It's a comedy primarily in wordplay and scene play. I think that's everything.
1:15:55Jason Mantzoukas:As opposed to slapstick nonsense and gutter-level humor. Frickin' funny movie, five stars. Wait, you don't like gutter-level humor? Frickin' funny movie? You also don't like slapstick, but you like wordplay. Interesting. And that is what people think of Oscar, which I will tell you, many people DM'd, Instagram storied, I don't know what they're talking about. This movie's good. And then I was like, oh no, did we pick something terrible? And then I was like, I watched it. I was like, no, no, no, we're right. You're all wrong. Paul, don't underestimate that our audience are fucking idiots. Now I said it before and I'll say it again Because I know you're going to ask us I did enjoy a lot of this movie I did enjoy this movie And you could say the same thing For Thanksgiving dinner You have turkey and it makes you tired And you fall asleep but you enjoyed Thanksgiving This movie gave you Well I don't eat meat But I'm just saying in the general sense You were just tired But you got back into it pretty easily I just had to take a quick nap Yeah Yeah.
1:17:11You gotta, sometimes, like, it's exhausting to be so immersed in a time period. To be like, I'm in the 1930s so powerfully. I had to relocate myself because I was scared I'd go insane. You had a draft of laudanum and you went to sleep.
1:17:29I, okay, all right, I see where you're at, Canada.
1:17:35Jason Mantzoukas:I feel for Stallone because I also am a huge Stallone fan You are. I do. I like the stuff that he does. But I feel like he's trying so hard to be funny. And I feel like I see it a lot. And I feel like these are the jokes that work with his friends who don't tell him, Sly, that's not a joke. The pimple thing. Like, no one tells him no. And then you get occasionally stuff like this. You get moments like that in Tulsa King, too, which I also love. And you see it in the recent Sylvester Stallone scripted movie, A Working Man, starring our favorite Jason Statham. So whatever's happened there, I did some research on this, he has just gifted Statham his old movies.
1:18:21Jason Mantzoukas:He's like, you make this. You make this. Like everything is now, like he's getting secondhand Stallone. Incredible. By the way, incredible, because he can pull it off. Statham's legit funny. Yeah. But I'm sort of with you. I mean, we went on a rocky tear this past summer. Yes. You and I. We didn't go on a rocky tear. Rocky the movie. The Rocky the movie. You guys were not in a rocky tear. No, Rocky the movie. No, we weren't. We were. And I have such a spot in my heart for him. I really, really do. And yeah, not every moment works. And of course, his pace should be different. And all that's true.
1:19:00That remains true. That's always going to be true. But if you can get past all of that, I swear, if you can do some work, audience, I'm asking him to do everything.
1:19:15Jason Mantzoukas:If you can work a little harder. So you're saying if you can look at this movie and recast it and rehear it differently, you can really appreciate it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's tough. This one's tough because I think what you're saying, June, I agree with, which is that there is something inherently watchable and interesting about Stallone, even if he's not necessarily pulling off the tone that this movie requires. It's too long. It's too slow. But they do such a good job of rounding out everybody else because there are jokes in here that like when Peter Rieger says the Duke of Ellington. Yeah. Funny.
1:19:54It's a funny line. There's jokes in here that are funny. When one person's reading a Time magazine and the other person's reading Who We magazine, I was like, give me a subscription to Who We magazine all day, every day. I read it for the articles. And again, the whole sequence with the brothers and Nicholas, and they're looking at the paper and saying that this was our work. It's so funny that they're proud of the man has been murdered in their suit. Yes. That they're famous now. Now, one thing I will say, I know we're so focused on Sly, but I did feel like Nicholas was a bit miscast as the accountant.
1:20:32Jason Mantzoukas:I did too. They put a set of glasses on him. I'm sorry, Nicholas. Anthony. They put a set of glasses on him, but he's a big strapping man. And I feel like you wanted that guy to be a little bit more... He seemed like a leading man, which confused me. Very much so. And you want him to be scared of these two tiny men. Yes. Harry Shearer being one of them Love that My favorite part of the movie Was when he pulled out the Chicken leg as a gun The jump stick These are great moments guys But I will say if you want to see Again a lot of these same Ideas executed better It's Johnny Dangerously I'll go see that Amy Heckerling right?
1:21:17Jason Mantzoukas:That was Yes, see it. Now, what do we want to plug, Jason? What are you telling people you're up to? Taskmaster. Let's go. Let's go. Taskmaster UK. I'm on it. Season 19. It's airing right now. Episode 2 just aired. It's all up now. Go. Go there. Watch it on YouTube. Or here you might even be able to watch it on something else. I don't know. But if you're watching. It's here. I was looking at it on YouTube. I saw that it popped up on my YouTube today. Great. It's on YouTube. Watch it. Comment. Get involved. These fuckers need to hear about it.
1:22:00Jason Mantzoukas:June, what do you got? Oh, gosh. Well, I'm in a new movie, which Paul and I just saw. It's not coming out till the first weekend of August, but it is called Weapons. It's the follow up for Zack Greger's new movie. So good. It's so good. Also coming out the same weekend with another movie I am in, Freaky Friday 2. Yeah. That'll be a fun weekend. My book just came out in paperback, Joyful Recollections of Trauma, with 20 extra pages. If you take a picture of that barcode, I could send you a personalized copy of it, but you have to pay for it. But if you've read the book, on my website, there are all these special features, videos, pictures, and everything like that.
1:22:44Jason Mantzoukas:And then every Monday on YouTube, Rob Hubel and I host a show called The Dark Web. Thank you. We go deep into the web to find the weirdest stuff, like sizzler training videos. And, oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. We find a bunch of stuff. 20 minutes. It's free every single week. June, I feel like we need to come up with a Barbenheimer-style name for Weapons and Freakier Friday. Freaky Weapons. Freakier Friday. Thank you. Freakier Weapons. So people can, like, telegraph that they're going to see both. It's a double feature weekend. Yes, it is a double feature weekend. We'll figure out some sort of whatever clumsy thing for that.
1:23:25Great. Right now. Let's all stop and think about it. Freaky weapons. Weapon Friday.
1:23:33Jason Mantzoukas:Friday weapons. Freak weapons. Freaky frepons. Wep free. Is freaky frepons a thing? Freakier weapons. I'm going to weapon Friday. It's very American. Weapons on Friday. Thank you! We love being here. Thank you everybody for coming out. Good night. Eat shit, Canada!
1:24:04Jason Mantzoukas:What a great show. And we are, once again, back in Canada this weekend. That's right, we'll be in Vancouver on Saturday, July 12th. It's our apology tour to Canada. We have not been back in a very, very long time. And we're doing two in one summer. but here's the thing. If you bought tickets for How Did It Get Made in Vancouver, check the location. We originally were going to do the show at the Queen Elizabeth Theater, but we moved down the block to the Vogue Theater. Your tickets should be updated, but just make sure that you are going to the Vogue Theater, not the Queen Elizabeth Theater. Your tickets and everything should be updated, but just in case you didn't check your email, I'm here to tell you it's the Vogue Theater, July 12th.
1:24:43Jason Mantzoukas:I'll be doing a big book signing after the show, and if you're like, oh, Paul, I want my book signed and I'm not in Vancouver. Don't worry about it. Just go to my website and we will support indie bookstores by letting you get anything you want inscribed in my book with me signing it. I guess it's just called signing a book. Anyway, just go to paulshear.com and you can do that right there. Once again, a big thank you to everybody who helps make this show happen. Our producers, Cody Fisher, Scott Sonny, Molly Reynolds, and our amazing movie picking producer, Averill Halley, our sound engineers, Casey Holford and Jared O 'Connell.
1:25:16Jason Mantzoukas:And people, if you're not watching the dark web on YouTube, what are you doing? Check it out. Me, Rob Hubel, the dankest, the darkest, the silliest dumb shit on the internet. Bye for now. Peace.
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This week June is back with Paul and Jason and they’re breaking down the 1991 Sylvester Stallone comedy, “Oscar” live from the Massey Hall in Toronto. The three dig into the strange father-daughter chemistry, bad boys, good girls, and the Opera connections to this film. And don’t forget to go see Freaky-Freapons!
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