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24:21Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, by the way, just to talk about it, this is a kid delivering the paper to two people in a boat. Two people in a boat. But hang on, those guys live in that boat. it's not even a houseboat it's a rowboat a small and they're like all right there we go um the firemen go by yeah firemen you're telling me the firemen the firemen go by every day at that time all in the truck geared up for a fire or they're on their way to a fire but still want the paper is is crew maybe an arsonist in disguise he sets the fire every day to kind of just make sure he gets those paper boys. I do also, sorry, go ahead, June.

25:06No, I'm understanding now why the town really comes around to rally behind him later on in the film because I didn't understand it and now I'm remembering he really, he really tried to get those papers to him. It does make sense. He's like very committed to it. I do want to say fashion wise and I'd love to open the table to discuss fashion with you, June. Really. First of all, crew's rocking the chachi bandana around the, thigh look. I feel like they were trying, I felt like, and I'm not sure, because maybe they hired Crew because he could do, because he is doing a fair amount of bike, the dancing stuff.

25:46You know, he can do tricks, I mean. So maybe they hired him for that reason. But he does look, he does look a lot like Scott Baio. And they're dressing him like Scott Baio and they're putting like the chachi kind of bandana around his leg. And I'm going to now just use that as a segue into both talking about his fashions, but also the fashions of the twins. I am obsessed. I want to talk about nothing, nothing but those twins. The rest of this podcast is going to be devoted only to the twins. Those guys, those were guys that when I saw them in a movie, I was like, I want to look like those guys.

26:31I don't want to look like this kid I want to look like those guys

26:34Jason Mantzoukas:They were like straight up G.I. Joe from the 80's cartoon villains Remember those characters like Zemo and Tomax One had a scar on one side and the other had a scar on the other side They were dressed in outfits that I don't think were ever popular Oh yes With a flap that went down here That's a jumpsuit Holy shit Their outfit was in the shape of a V It was crazy In general, though, I feel like the 80s was obsessed with twins. Like, there was sort of a cultural obsession and a fetishization of twins. The double-min twins was a big thing. Yeah. The double-trouble twins, of course, my first sexual awakening.

27:14Double trouble. Great show. Great show. I mean, you want to reboot a show, reboot double trouble. I'm in.

27:22Jason Mantzoukas:But they're also, like, I feel like the twins are not necessarily evil as much as they're just showboats. I mean, I would say that there's a whole issue as far as who's bad and who's good in this town because there really is no conflict to speak of more than that one person is the success. The twins and Bart Conner. Wait, is Bart Conner Jim Cotta? No. No, actually, this guy. Who is he? Well, I will tell you that this guy is an Olympic gymnast. He is a gymnast, right? Yeah. Who is Jim Cotta? the other part kirk thomas okay okay okay but close right um he's okay so they're not from this town right no they're all out of towners okay they're coming here because this is going to put this town on the map this hick town that is so not hick like they treat this town like i'm surprised the roads are paved.

28:24Jason Mantzoukas:Like, really? It looks like every regular sized small town. Especially I feel like if you have a BMX bike there, it's not a, you know, podunk town. If you could get that bicycle in a 10 mile radius, like, that's kind of a cool town. Yep. So you think it's probably maybe the coolest town? Probably. I couldn't even keep track, though, of, like, all the fat cats and all of the, like, interpersonal relationships. I just knew I didn't care. But I couldn't keep track of who was who and who was the mayor and why they wanted this here. They were trying to create the Super Bowl. Like, the Super Bowl would now be in their small town.

29:06Jason Mantzoukas:Because everyone around the world, this is going to air on as many screens as the Super Bowl in their mind. Wait, they said that? Yeah. He said, this is our Super Bowl. The airing of the Hell Track race? Yes. which was at best passable as a race. I have to say that's the thing that upset me the most. The qualifying race seemed more interesting and harder. A lot harder. And I'm sorry, the qualifying races. I feel like I watched 700 laps of races. It was in real time. I was like, is this now just a documentary about this race? And the announcer talks a big game at the beginning of each race but then stops narrating the race as it's going on.

29:57Jason Mantzoukas:Like, did he win? It didn't look like he won. It wasn't a... I had no idea what that qualifying race was. And then they'd send another ten off and you'd just watch the whole thing again. And then the people who are actually racing in Helltrack, they're also qualifying, but they're coming there to race Helltrack. Isn't this just for the people who want to get like this is like so was the qualifying race just for the townspeople no i i believe the qualifying race was to get it down to a final number a final race of 10 because there were so many entrants a thousand they had to call a thousand well and i feel like we watched every single one of them of the qualifiers and every i believe i watched a thousand people do that well by the way i believe it i definitely know we were introduced to a thousand bicyclists for the actual health track that was amazing one of their nicknames was hollywood can i just play that um yeah this is introducing every racer it is if you're listening at home just picture a very non-plussed face for every name you're not missing any visual you're not maybe a wave no visual maybe like mild irritation even yeah here's the starting fee fighting for team hutch from canada jeff ingram for Team Robinson from San Diego, Richard Fleming Robert Lue from Los Angeles for DK Racing the Power Life racer, Danny Milwig from the Red Line team from Torrance, California, Scott Clark by the way, that guy looks like he's 40 but let's continue a number of these people do by the way, so does Crew well this is also like 80s movies where all the teens look like they're middle aged people Yeah.

31:59Mark Behan is qualified for North Corwin Super Succo. Mark Naparejo for GT. Glenn Adams out of Utah will be riding for Bam Bites. The pedal power rider is Chris Phoenix. For Team Robinson, it's Travis Chupre. For Team GT, Eddie Fiola. As well as Kevin Hall from Texas.

32:23Jason Mantzoukas:It's still going. For the Skyways team, it's Richie Anderson. Riding for Vance is Beeple Rosecrans from Honolulu. And for Team Hunt, Hollywood, from the ring. Team Hunt, who qualifies three riders, the Reynolds twins, Rod and Rance, out of Mayshore, Long Island, as well as the number one rider in the nation, Florida's Mark Taylor. And there's the Independent, the Privateer, for Rad Racing Group Joe. I was so excited during that sequence because the two twins are from my hometown. Really? I know, I screamed when I heard that. No one is from Bayshore, New York. I was like, yeah, we got twin bad guys.

33:04Jason Mantzoukas:Wait, can I ask? Are they actual BMX dudes? When I go home for the holidays, I'm going to find out. We watched that whole segment. Every single one of those riders was mentioned. They got a straight-ahead shot on them. Not one of them waved normally at all. Nobody could just give a cool wave. everybody waved somehow weirdly yeah if you've ever heard of that comfortably if you've ever heard of that like that book or that website like awkward family photos right it is the encapsulation of this in video form no one looks ready no one looks ready for it people seem upset that it's happening it's all it's all you caught everybody at the wrong moment it's like i'm in i'm middle oh hi i'm back i just gotta get back and they're all in direct sunlight yeah fun fact about the final race um the film built the wall that they start on too high and all the professional racers like no we're not doing this and they had to kind of like shuttle production for like two weeks to lower the hell track the hell track was too high can you imagine if like 11 bmx racers were killed on this film.

34:25Jason Mantzoukas:One broke their leg. We saw him. He had the broken leg that they high-fived. He was one of the stuntmen. Oh, really? Let me ask. As BMX bikers. Yeah, sure. It's pronounced BMXperts.

34:40As BMXperts. All right, all right. That's enough. That's enough. Did you recognize any of these faces? I did not.

34:48Jason Mantzoukas:No. I did not. I would argue, though, if you showed me today's best BMXers. I don't know. Matt Mira? No, he hosts James Bonding Podcast. Are you just promoting Matt Mira? James Bonding Podcast. Wasn't there one that was like, what's his name, Matt? That one. Why do all you shitheads know BMX racers? Wait, how many people are here tonight, not because you like our podcast, but just because you love BMX racing, and heard this was about... These people come and find it. The rad fans are so into this movie. I wish they'd be a little bit more into it because when they did start a Kickstarter, they wanted to crowdfund a documentary about the film called 25 Years Later, a rad-trospective.

35:41Jason Mantzoukas:It did not reach the goal. Heartbroken. I am heartbroken to hear that. um yeah this um yeah but there is a hell track being built right now and there's going to be a health track somewhere in the country someone sent me the flyer for it for real yeah wow well i was i want to go in that big bowl of cereal yeah i went and i was looking forward to the hell track and seeing what what types of you know obstacles there were going to be but it did feel like man they spent a lot of time trying to keep crews out of this they should to use that time and energy building more fun things for these BMX guys?

36:24Jason Mantzoukas:I would argue, too, that the bummer of BMX racing in this format is that they're just doing the same thing over and over and over again. And they didn't even change what was happening. It was like, oh, they made it. They made it. Oh, they made it. Uh-oh, some guys fell. But okay. And what I really didn't like about this film is that... And you can fall, and it's okay. Oh, just get back up. And you can also jump on either side of an obstacle in front of you. Like that tub that you have to go in and ride the thing out of, a bowl of cereal or whatever, some people just rode around it. Easy enough.

36:59You don't have to get in single file line and everybody ride the spoon out. So why ride the spoon at all? And the thing that really annoyed me is that there were no differences in types of racers. So, Cruise, was he a good BMX racer? In his blood.

37:18Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, as Lori Loughlin said, he's got something. Did you see anything different in his style than anyone else's? Absolutely not. There was nothing I was connected to about his type of racing. I'd argue that he didn't even show me anything that exciting besides bike dancing. No, he was a great bike dancer. He was a great bike dancer. you know but that's the thing is i wish that the whole movie had been reversed and that we might have seen the big race or whatever but that you really see him coming to his own at the dance at the end of the movie that's interesting he's done the racing which is a big bucket of who cares right i mean i get it but he really has to if he's going to get the girl he has to win her with his moves, you know?

38:06His moves on the bike, on the dance floor. I'm down for that. I mean, the most disappointing part was at the very end of the race, there was no special move that won him that race. He just simply got a little bit further.

38:22Jason Mantzoukas:And kind of didn't even get to that point. The lead guy, our main hero, was like, I need to stop and wait up for him. Okay. And to what end? And because isn't the thing a race? So why would you ever go like, let me let him catch up and then we'll really see who wins. No, you're racing when you're ahead. But I think that that was his plan all along. To throw the race? Yeah. You think Bart Conner wanted to lose the race to Cruz? Yes, I do. Yeah. Okay, Hal Needham's family.

38:56Yeah, because I think there was something not sitting well with him, knowing that he was, you know, essentially the property. Yeah. And he joined in with the team at the very end. Well, he didn't want to be there.

39:09Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. I know what you mean. I had an issue with the number one BMX biker not competing, which was kind of thrown to the side. Like Lori Loughlin, like she's like, he's like, why do you have that number one? She's like, well, self-explanatory, right? I'm the best. And then they go in the park and they jump up on stuff. but when he goes like why aren't you in the hell track this weird explanation which is so bizarre it's like it's so odd to be like she came to town then to what she's not competing she just says I didn't get a chance to thank you for the dance last night you're welcome you took off so quick I thought maybe there was something about me you didn't like no no that's not it can you pause for a second You know, you're really...

39:56He's giving her nothing. He's giving her nothing. This is the day after the bike dance. This is the day of the ass slide, I believe. This is like love. And she's saying, I thought you didn't like me. And he's like, no. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He might as well be a sack of potatoes pushing a bike.

40:22Jason Mantzoukas:But don't you feel that like Lori Loughlin, is that how you pronounce her name? And if it isn't, oh, that's what I'll say. That Lori, her whole career has been like being better than her male counterpart, ultimately. With the exception of Stamos. Stamos. The two of them, though, I swear to God, these motherfuckers are vampires. They look so good. Something's up. I mean, it's crazy. She looks better now. And she's beautiful there. I don't know what's going on Here we go What?

41:15Okay

41:15Jason Mantzoukas:I race for trophies Okay so that's a Corvette race Race for trophies So she's, I think, is she saying she's, like, still competing on a circuit that is, like, the Olympic version of this? And that this is, like, pro sports? I mean, listen. They do a lot of stunt wigging in this movie. Oh, yeah, that, I have that. And they've clearly made no attempt to find a woman who could ride a bicycle. Yeah. No attempt. I find it hard to believe that there was not one woman in all the land that could have done some of her stunts. Agree. How is that possible? I mean, there should be at least one, right? There should be one female BMX racer who could have done this.

42:06Isn't that on your special skills on your resume? I'm trying to find... Just look for any scene that she's in with a bicycle because it's not her. It's a man.

42:17Jason Mantzoukas:If you just watch Lori's hair, here we go.

42:27That is just a broad-shouldered man. Yeah, that's just a man. Here we go. In like a Marlo Thomas wig.

42:40Jason Mantzoukas:That's her face. That's her female body, female body. That's his riding on normal ground. Okay. Okay, there's him. This is crew.

42:55Jason Mantzoukas:Into the water. And this is a man going into the water. That's a man, all right. What if she's like a BMX vampire? Like when she rides, her body turns into a man. I mean, the thing that's really disturbing, though, So not only do they just not find anyone to do her stunts, but then they just take her storyline away completely. Oh, yeah. The character can't even be a rider. No, she's not allowed. It's crazy. She's not allowed. It would be unseemly. In the grand scheme of things that don't make sense, I agree with you. I was confused of the politics of this town, the old man who's rich, the mayor, but more importantly, the cop.

43:45Jason Mantzoukas:the cop who, and I know this is like a little bit of a deep reference, but the cop looks like Dr. Eggman from Sonic.

43:57Jason Mantzoukas:And the cop makes a speech at the end of the movie to rally the town that I rewound because I don't believe it makes any sense. Like he left out a couple of lines. I will say, this is He has been the lead actor's nemesis. So Hal Needham also made Smokey and the Bear, okay? Right? And their relationship is a lot like... No, Smokey and the Bandit, sorry. Smokey and the Bandit and BJ and the Bear was the TV show. Don't worry about it, guys. It all happened. So it's about a cop chasing a trickster roadster, played by Burt Reynolds. this is the same exact dynamic but with them on bikes but I would argue the cop is a friend the whole movie when they're racing it's revealed here no but in the first scene when they're going through the log thing he's like oh the cops are he wants to race us who wants to do it this time oh I'll do it I thought he was there to bust them yeah he was there to bust I think you read that moment wrong oh really wait wait was he there to bust them yeah of course he was No, he was just there to race them, and that's why they said, yeah.

45:14Jason Mantzoukas:That's insane. That's insane, and that didn't happen. Wait, who thinks he was there to bust them, though? Yes. Yeah, we win. And who thinks he was there to race them? You guys are fucking idiots. Then why does this scene only make sense if we perceived him story structure-wise? Guys, it makes no sense. It only makes sense if this is a turn for the cop. We're supposed to be completely shocked that this is happening. Otherwise, you're saying the script for this movie is nonsense. And that's not possible. And what we're here to say is, how dare you? This is flawless, classic storytelling. I will tell you that I believe that...

46:03I'm talking the Lizistrada. No, no, I'm not trying to say I'm talking. I'm saying, no, I'm just talking about the Lizistrada. I'm talking Shakespeare. I'm talking rad. These are classics. Sorry, Paul. Sorry, Paul. I wasn't trying to talk you down.

46:21Jason Mantzoukas:I will say that I think one of the things was, this cop saw something in these kids. He's like, you know what? I'm going to challenge them every day because one day this town will get a shot and we will get on the map And I am here to serve and protect. And I am going to protect that we bring home Haltrek.

46:50Paul, I'm so sorry, Paul. The part has been cast. We are reboot crazy people. Put me in as Sergeant Eggman. You're not getting this part. See, I agree with you. if this is the scene where you discover that's what he's been doing the whole time. If you know he's been doing it the whole time, then what we're saying is what? Nothing. That's insane, you guys. This is stuff. These are teenagers on BMX bikes. Their natural enemy is the police. His job is to serve and protect this town. He may, in like some area of his brain, enjoy watching their tricks and blah, blah, blah, but he's enforcing the whole time because he has to because that's his job.

47:38Despite every instinct he has, he sees what's going on. And for the first time in his life, he lays down all the rules and all the regulations and he stands up for what he knows in his heart is the right thing to do. But it's not easy for him. It's not comfortable, but he does it anyway. And you know how we know he's being real for the first time in the whole movie, he takes his sunglasses off. He lets us see his soul through his eyes.

48:16Jason Mantzoukas:He says, look at me for real. I challenge Paul Thomas Anderson to do a better choice at directing an actor than that. Here is the speech that makes no sense. and the best thing about Rad is he can interpret his motivation in a myriad of ways. Just a moment. Just a moment. Please, please. Can I have a word here?

48:47Jason Mantzoukas:He walks fully to the stage. He walks the whole way. I thought I heard it all until now. Oh, wait, does he not take him off? Uh-oh. I've watched these kids grow up. I've chased every one of them. I think Crew and his friends have done something special. Real special. They have given themselves hope and all your talk about dollars is killing that hope. If someone doesn't see the crew has this opportunity, well, I guess we'll just all have to learn to live with it. Are you guys an apology? He didn't take off the sunglasses. But he pretty much did. I almost feel like he put on a pair of darker sunglasses.

49:29In many ways he did those. You know what? His words metaphorically took the sunglasses off for him.

49:37Jason Mantzoukas:If you are an acting student out there, if you are a professional actor, and they say, hey, bring a monologue next time you audition, I say... To that end, I would say, bring the monologue for Miami Connection. Oh, yeah, that's pretty great too. But if someone else in class is doing that, bring this. I mean that speech we'll have to live with it okay and he's like we're talking about money but what they were talking about was raising money for him to be able to race to compete well I am still grappling with the question of where did they get the capital money to buy all those t-shirts in the first one that guy the evil man in this movie, the BMX bad guy, he worked for Mongoose as the small patch on his suit told us.

50:36Jason Mantzoukas:So he was a Mongoose person who was like, I spent millions in merch, and if this kid wins, I'll become very successful because I've forwarded his career. If Bart Conner wins. He needs Bart Conner to win the race. But you're asking, why does Crew... Initially, yes, Crew's crew with his sister, which we haven't even spoken about. I haven't even talked about her. She was so cute, I just want to shove her in a garbage can. She originally, they were able to make$10 ,000 worth of T-shirts. Where did that money come from? Oh. Yeah, the qualifying race. Made$10 ,000. Got him$10 ,000, and he used that money.

51:21Instead, remember, he was going to use that money to whatever he was going to do. He instead turns that into trying to get sponsorship because that's the next hurdle they throw in front of him.

51:30Jason Mantzoukas:With the rule book where they're adding rules at any given point. Here's another new rule. So he took the$10 ,000, invested it into the t-shirts. Correct. Thinking he would make it to$20 ,000. Keep in mind, also into painting his helmet and making a shirt for him to wear. But yes, that's where the$10 ,000 was. Well, no, no, no. That shirt for him to wear wasn't that designed by that elaborate ploy where everyone in the school was building an outfit for him that was very lackluster. And one nerd was doing all of their homework. Oh, yes. Yes. I was going to see that. What was that? One nerd. It was like, one nerd, you do all their homework and then we'll use all of their seamstress, their painting skills.

52:17And everybody's, I'm here to color t-shirts. That was the other thing. They were dyeing white t-shirts red, which was a thing we used to do. It's cheaper to get that white material than that red shirt. By the way, they missed a real opportunity to tie-dye that uniform. I was like, how fucking rad would it have been if that red shirt was tie-dyed? Fuck, we did a lot of that. Anyway, and so they make all that shit, and the kid comes in, and he's like, well, I'm here to paint our colored t-shirts. Here's my homework. and they hand the homework off to someone else who's just doing all of every subject?

52:56Well, that's like every 80s movie smart kids are punished for being smart.

53:01Jason Mantzoukas:And this is what I was going to say too in the beginning. Smart kids are punished and also parents treat their kids terribly because there's that opening scene where the mom's pulling out of the driveway which goes, if you don't shut up! I was like, wow! We're getting hot early in the morning. I'm going to be honest, I miss those days. I miss when people would just, like, scream profanities at their children in, like, the mall. Why don't you shut the fuck up? By the way, you know, we keep on saying rad. And that wasn't the actual title of the movie. It was changed very late in the game. And I'll play this clip and maybe you can see what the original title might have been.

53:46Whoa. You can do it. Just pretend you're in a lumberyard. Go balls out.

53:59Jason Mantzoukas:Balls Out was the name of this movie. If, wow! June, you don't look like you like the title Balls Out. I would argue if this movie had been called Go Balls Out, it would have won an Oscar. Every year since its release. I mean, not to go back to the policeman's motivation, but after seeing that scene, it's just become clearer and clearer. He was just doing his job until he couldn't anymore. Oh, my God. Look, we are so hesitant to upgrade our sleeping situation. It's hard. What, do I get a new mattress? Do I have a sleep tracker? Am I getting my supplements? What, alarm clocks that glow? You don't need any of that.

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58:07Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, arguably, too, if you're talking about awards and handing out awards, I'm sure that Talia Shire just came off of Rocky. She read the script. It was like a great part for me. Like, no reason to have her in this movie. She's great. She's not doing anything bad. This is a Schwartzman-Copola family movie, I believe. Oh, is it? Okay. John Schwartzman producer, Jack. Jack Schwartzman producer, who I'm assuming is Jason's dad. Oh, okay. Who I believe that makes Talia Shire either a sister or a cousin. Oh, okay. Because that makes sense. Because I was like, it makes no sense that she agreed to that part in this movie.

58:44And it also likely means that Nicolas Cage was almost in this movie.

58:50Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, huge missed opportunity for Nick Cage to play both twins. Oh. Amazing. You know, in our remake, we have the offer out to Nick Cage to play both those parts. At the age he is now. He really wants to play twins again. Now, did Crew ever take his SATs? No. No, in six months, right? Wasn't that the thing he'll take them in six months? Yeah. But he'll miss college. So we just never know if he took them or not. Well, he doesn't need to now. He's number one in the world. No, that was the whole thing. That was her whole thing. that regardless of the outcome, he was going to take them. If his mom had been a little bit more forceful and maybe said, you know what?

59:38Unless you take those SATs, no racy.

59:43Jason Mantzoukas:Oh. There's the guy that kept saying no racy. I thought that was going to get a much bigger response, guys. I'm not going to lie to you. Because I wrote it down because I was like, I don't like that this guy keeps saying no racy, no racy. Really thought that was going to hit. You know what, Chicago? I don't like you anymore. You know, it was... No, it's over for us. Take your Lou Monatis and get the fuck out of here. We talk a lot about the stunts in this movie, but I have to say the best stunt in the film was when Ray Walston, the older man in the movie, balances two coffee cups. They were not glued down.

1:00:26Jason Mantzoukas:He kept that plate almost at a 90-degree angle. at some point. And those coffee cups stayed on top. So I thought, once I saw that, for sure he was going to be in the hell race at the end. Yeah. By the way, I would have loved that. I didn't. I was waiting for it and he never showed up. And it was his$27 ,000 that made up the gap. Yeah. What's his background? Where did he make his money? I don't, I'm unclear where he has that money from. He worked in a place where someone else was there. We know that there are two coffee cups where he likes to drink a lot of coffee. So because, that's no small chunk of change to just throw to a random kid in the town.

1:01:04Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. He is shark tanking it. He sees potential and he's like, I'm going to sit on$26 ,000 worth of merch because I know I'm going to resell that shit in a couple of weeks and I'm going to get my money back. I would finance currently a movie that stars just him and the little sister solving a mystery or something. She was amazing. She was baby Catherine Han. Oh, yeah. She was so good. She was like the... Didn't miss a beat. She was the equivalent of the little brother in Teen Witch. Let's hear... I felt... Actually, I take it back. That's the movie I want. I want a movie where the brother from Teen Witch teams up with the sister from Rad, and they solve a mystery.

1:01:50Jason Mantzoukas:If these movies were successful, you might have gotten it. Let's just have a little taste of the two of them together. Drew, you were late. Hey, forget that. What was that terrorist act all about back there? It just bums me out how the stupid kids think bark so rad. You're better than him. And if you could raise, you'd show a bunch of people. I don't know. That bark guy's pretty good, Wes. Bullshit. Uh, mom's not here. Come on, let's go faster. Hey, Wes, how about a shower? What are you doing? Uh, yeah. There's, like, some actual real stunts with kids that were stressing me out. Yeah. I thought maybe what might be fun is if we went through the dance bike section, we can maybe keep the volume down a little bit and just see what we're just talk through what we're seeing because this is the scene that I feel like we do need to kind of go through Keep in mind again, this is what appears to be a school dance but is in fact a town-wide dance Yeah, Lori Loughlin comes in Man man laurie laughlin comes in he she like rides the bike into the dance hall which is an odd choice there's no one else there then he goes in after her he's never bike danced before could you pause for a second this would make so much more sense if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend yeah if their relationship was such that there was more energy between them so that she was choosing Crew instead of Bart Conner in a way that was more meaningful.

1:03:26Well, and also, Crew had a crush on a young woman named Katie in the beginning of the film. Who appeared to hate him. Yeah. Everybody in town is so dazzled by both the fact that he's such a good, nice boy, or he's totally rad on that bike. She is like, he chases her, and he's like, will you go to the dance with me? And she's essentially like, go fuck yourself, Crew. I don't know what she's up to, but she's not playing the game. She doesn't want to be with a BMX dirt riding pick. You know what? Listen, where she's coming from is just like, she doesn't like the mode of transportation. She's like, what are you going to pick me up in?

1:04:06Jason Mantzoukas:I thought she couldn't go to the dance because she has to take care of her two children because she's 40. I said, is this a teacher? that's like because she's so dismissive like i felt like her line was gonna be crew i'm your teacher this is inappropriate or actually wait what year is it it might be totally appropriate unclear um i will say their meet cute between crew and laurie happens because a woman is in her car she's like the oven's on my cake will get burned it's like all right let's stop the parade and get this woman to get to her cake. That woman was not right. She was not. What, the town cake lady?

1:04:52Yeah, she left me feeling very unsettled. She also left her home while the oven was on. No, she's not a well person. She started baking, went out for an errand. She's not okay, you guys. Something's very wrong with her.

1:05:03Jason Mantzoukas:There's no oven and there's no cake. And there's probably no house. Later on, later on at the town council, or whatever the fuck that was, at the town meeting and then again when they're watching the qualifying races. I mean, she's obsessed with crew. If she is, she is sexually obsessed with crew. She's obsessed with him. It's deeply uncomfortable. The real love story should be told from her point of view towards crew. The reality is if you have this few people to round out the town, don't shoot it in an enormous room and don't add extra chairs that aren't full. I'm not even kidding. There are more people.

1:05:40So many extra chairs. So many empty chairs that are just reminding you. Either people are not coming to town meeting, or they cannot afford any more extras. Honest to God, more people showed up at the Stars Hollow town meeting every week than showed up to this town's meeting.

1:05:55Jason Mantzoukas:Well, Jason, if you're saying they couldn't afford extras, you probably think this is a low-budget movie, right? How much money do you think this movie cost to make? In 1986. In 1986. $4 million. Yeah. To make? Yeah, yeah, yeah. To make, you're asking, right? The budget. The budget of the movie in 1986. Seven, four to six million dollars. Okay, June? I'd say about three million. Okay. Eleven million dollars. Where? Where? Eleven million dollars in 1986. Paul, that's like 46 million dollars right now. Genuine question. Did they build the town? did they build all of the infrastructure of a small american town because that is the only way they spent 11 million dollars to make the movie rad because and this is maybe a little inside baseball but there's not even many interiors in this movie it's all daytime exteriors which is the cheapest thing to shoot um 11 million and uh when it came out an opening weekend it did make $408 ,000.

1:07:13I don't know. Maybe it was on all those BMX racers. Maybe they just really, like, you know, wanted to make their quotes. How much could they possibly have cost? By the way, they're getting sponsored, yeah. All of their brands are being represented in the movie. That's like product placement, essentially, all over the movie. By the way, if you're Mongoose, why are you letting yourself be, like, the douchiest? You get, like, if you're Mongoose, So you're like, great, we'll be in the movie. And you're like, everybody's going to hate your brand. Everybody's going to associate you with the twins and the blonde douche.

1:07:47Jason Mantzoukas:Well, there were rad Vans. Like, Vans got in on this, too. Coca-Cola 7-Eleven. What is it? Coca-Cola and 7-Eleven. Oh, yeah, Coca-Cola. Vans, I believe, is in some sort of lawsuit with Rad. Oh, really? One of the only bits of trivia I do know. Lots of message boards about this movie, by the way. limited edition Vans Rad Shoes. Look at the end. It goes, this shoe is only available at your local authorized participating Vans dealer. Paul, can I ask this audience a question? Is anybody here wearing the Rad Shoes? I feel like it's something that could be possible in one of these shows. And the answer is no.

1:08:26You failed us, Chicago. That's two strikes, baby. Two strikes.

1:08:31Jason Mantzoukas:All right. So we were watching the dance scene. We'll get back to the dance scene. But I will say, when we're talking about, oh, it would be great if Laurie was maybe dating Bart, I would argue it would be great if Bart was anything evil. He simply seems to show up, be cool, dance, and not really get in Cruz's face at all. He's the best guy at this. We know he's already established as the champion. He just seems like, I don't know, if Al Pacino came to your town, he would be just as aloof as Bart. He's like, yeah, hey. I mean, what's interesting about it is... Why is Pacino coming to town? Pacino was originally supposed to be...

1:09:09Oh, for the acting off? Yeah. Did your town host the acting off?

1:09:12Jason Mantzoukas:It was a Super Bowl of acting competitions. What's interesting about his performance is that I actually thought he was doing a great job playing one of those guys, like a snowboarder who's just like, yeah, I'm really good. I'm here. I've got not a ton going on up here, but that's okay. Like, not a lot of light behind the eyes. it seemed very real. I'm here to do the thing you've asked me to do. And when I'm done with that, I'll leave. By the way, Bart, Olympic gymnast Bart, married to Nadia Comaneci. There they are getting married up there. You see them right there. They look so happy! And here is Bart just talking about Rad.

1:09:55When I look back at the film all these years later, people often talk to me about Rad. And it's kind of funny because literally I meet people who know the movie Rad, but have no idea that I used to be an Olympic gymnast. They just know me from Rad. Literally, I have strangers. I'll be walking down the street, and a guy will stop me and go, Dude, bartender! Awesome! And then they just keep walking. And it's all these years later, and I still get it. Who would have thought that the film would have such an intense cult following? But I'm really proud of that.

1:10:24Jason Mantzoukas:He seems like a very nice man. Lovely guy. Yeah, so I wonder if people come up to him and you're like, Jim Cotta, right? By the way, if you're recognizing that dude from Red, you are on a facial level of recognition that is unknown to me. He looks very different. He looks very different. It's only like you're like, all right, so now it's 2018. Here's a guy in 1986 who was a child. Got it. Yeah. I don't think I could recognize my family that I haven't seen in a couple years. Yeah. Did anyone else find it troubling that the prize was not a bicycle? It was... But a car? Yeah, that is odd, right? All right, so we'll just watch a little bit of this dancing.

1:11:15Jason Mantzoukas:And the thing that it was so kind of... And I guess, like, who gives a shit? But I am at least, like... They just start bike dancing as if it was a thing that he's done before. You can't just be like, follow me. like she's like gliding on the bike and you think maybe they'll just do tricks to each other but they're not doing tricks they are bike dancing lit like they're at the Olympics and I don't know where they're getting that height and jump from because there's no ramps in there this song is fucking awesome all the songs this is amazing like this is

1:11:58There's nothing more erotic than this.

1:12:01Jason Mantzoukas:Can you just describe that? Because I just want to, like, She's basically gliding in, like, a dance position on top of the bike like a goddamn angel sent from heaven above as the song tells us. Oh, I mean, I would listen to this soundtrack and body rock all day long. Guys, I urge you to go home tonight and fuck to this soundtrack. It's on Spotify. How about Break the Ice? That's a good song too, Break the Ice. Yeah, so she's like doing this, which I don't think is a possible move. This is not a move. He's just still, he's doing his jumping. She's flying. I love this. They're just showboating. Who's that kid?

1:12:50I don't know. These are the old men at the dance who have been set up to be getting drunk. Yeah, they've been putting alcohol in the children's punch. Now they are standing on the bus.

1:13:04Jason Mantzoukas:They're going so slow. That's something that makes me... You can't slow stunt. Look at this. Send me an angel. Guys. I mean. this is I this this

1:13:29Jason Mantzoukas:as Jason said send me an angel we see crew lying flat on his bike arm extended I mean this is unreal um you know what we're having so much fun talking about the show I gotta get in the audience here uh and talk to them about this movie as well I wanna point out that someone brought this amazing sign If you remember in the film, there is a moment, a non-ironic moment, where a crew meets up with Lori. They're in an ice cream shop, and he tries to get her back. Can you pass that to me? Great, thank you.

1:14:11Jason Mantzoukas:They're in an ice cream shop, and it says, having a friend like you makes me happy all over and he points to it like yeah and it doesn't make any fucking sense this is amazing thank you for making that what's her name? Christy? thank you Christy we can give it back to you too we can keep it or we can give it back to you I don't want you to think that we just took it from you like aha, it's ours It's ours now. I'm going to kiss it all night long. I'm going to go down there. I have to come down this way. I'm looking for a title that you think, a one-word or two-word title that you think would be great for this movie.

1:14:57Jason Mantzoukas:As you ask your questions, I want you to think about that. A one - or two-word title. Who has a question? Something they want to point out? Yes, sir. Come here. Sir, your name? Tom. And your movie title? Wigtown. Nice. So two things. I was also enamored with the twins in the movie. So first thing, so I looked into Rod and Rex. They are now successful screenwriters, and they wrote The Conjuring in The Conjuring 2. Yeah. Yeah. And also the jumpsuits that they wear at the dance were borrowed from the set of the miniseries V. I was... I wrote... Okay. I wrote down on that thing. I go, like, these people look like they're from V.

1:15:38Jason Mantzoukas:and then I said I can't make that reference because it will date me. Whoa! We have someone in the audience dressed in the V outfits. Someone's wearing one. And please stand up next to him dressed in Lori Loughlin's X-Men outfit. Look at this. Very exciting. Wait a second. Three costumes. Three amazing costumes. Can I ask you guys a question? are you also Hal Needham's family? Please take a picture of them. We'll put that up in the show page. Guys, those are three people that want to talk to you after the show. Who else? Over here. All right, sir, your name, your title, and your question. My name is Nick.

1:16:26Jason Mantzoukas:My title is Screw College. Got it. And my question is, looking at the ending credits on my copy, a lot of names were blanked out. And I was wondering if we know any reason why these people opted not to be referenced. I am looking at this picture that you've taken. Yeah. Wow. It is like classified document level blocked out. Like a redacted cast list? Yeah. Wait, Paul, where did he say he found that? In his copy. Again, this is a copy that people are getting in ways that only true fans will get it. That's sanctioned, yes. We don't know where it's all coming from. All right, I want to get a lady here.

1:17:10Jason Mantzoukas:A lot of guys. Where is I? Here, okay, here. Here, all right. Here's, all right. We'll get to you, too. Hold on. All right, your name, your title, your question. My name's Laura. My title is Radical Youth. And my question is, can we get, like, an age for Lori? Like, because she's dating a teenager, but then she also says she's the top BMX biker in the world, and she's traveled the world. So I'd really like to get an age on her. Yeah, I was wondering, is she, she's not a high school student. I don't think so. I'm going to say she's like 20 and he's 18. So, no? No, no, I'm sorry. I'm not saying the actors are that.

1:17:52I love the guy in the audience that just went, nope. I can tell you Lori Loughlin's exact age at the exact moment she was making this movie you sir are wrong I think she's meant to be a bit older yeah

1:18:10Jason Mantzoukas:I'm up in the balcony now

1:18:18alright

1:18:19Jason Mantzoukas:Paul be careful the balcony is dangerous alright can you come to me I can't come to you or I'll die okay sir your name your title and your question My name is Martensi. The title is She's 20, He's 18. And my question is, who is watching the sister of crew? She is just roaming around town most of the movie. Yeah, while the mom is ironing in the basement. But that was the 80s, too. That's the age. I feel like the town is raising that girl. Yeah. I wasn't worried about her. But I also wouldn't be surprised if she ended up being abducted on a train car and being taken somewhere. I don't know. No, she didn't make it.

1:19:05Out of there. Definitely not. By the way, the sequel is not so rad for the sister. She passes. She didn't make it.

1:19:18Jason Mantzoukas:I just had a thought here, too. I just realized the mom had no reaction when the brother put her in a garbage can. She didn't say, like, hey, stop that. Well, she knows that girl is trash. Did we ever find out how their dad died? There was some mystery surrounding that. I agree. I suspect foul play. All right, here we go. I feel like that corner is trouble. Sir, your name, your question, and then you can show me your pictures. You can show me your pictures? So at one point when Rad Racing is selling the shirts, the Mongers crew shows up in what appears to be the Corvette that is the prize for the race.

1:20:01Jason Mantzoukas:He has proof that it's BS. Yeah. Okay, dude. We wouldn't have believed you. Why are they driving that car? That's a picture? Is it a screen grab? Why do I feel like if we go to this dude's house it's going to be one of those red line a wall of things and he's like, I'll bring this and I'll bring this. Then they'll believe me. I know. I'll be the final question. I mean, I'm doing honestly. I will. I'm also doing some introfection. I will not have any disagreement like they had about the cop if I bring my picture. But by the way, he's right. I guess they like kind of let them. But I'm doing some rigorous investigation of myself.

1:20:44Because I just feel like, wow, have we presented a people up here that, like, you thought we wouldn't believe you? Like, we believe you. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I'm inclined to not believe you, but I'm more scared of you that you brought the picture.

1:21:05Jason Mantzoukas:I believe that he is a member of that small town who finally is trying to get that town meeting to pull it all together again. Was that picture, like, a glossy photo or what? It was a computer printout, to be fair. Oh, so this dude's like, oh, don't worry, I've got a color printer. So, you know what? I take it all back. It's a fucking brag. It's a brag. He was like, I'm going to bring my picture so that everybody knows I've got Kai and Toner at home. He'd had nothing to do with us. That's just the kind of fuck I am. And I applaud the use of the picture because it is a podcast. So... Oh, wait. Can I get house lights up once again just briefly?

1:21:49I'm so sorry. I just want to acknowledge everybody. If you're wearing a rad racing shirt, please stand up. All right, we got one. I like it. Two. Security, get them out of here.

1:22:05Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. Obviously, we have opinions about this movie, but there are people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions.

1:22:16I'm watching a film, loving it all. It's the thrill of a movie. They say it's bad, I say it's a ball And I just got a comment They're calling me stupid Saying this movie's putrid Well I've had enough I'm going on to Amazon It's my second opinion And you know I'm gonna write it It's the power you feel when you share your terrible feelings. I'm giving it five stars. I don't care if you don't like it. I won't take it back because it's already on the internet. Yes!

1:23:12Jason Mantzoukas:Give it up for Sarah. Give it up for Sarah. That was great. And if you want to hear five other ones, stay tuned for after the episode and we'll put them all back to back there. We didn't want to cut any of them out because they're so damn good.

1:23:31You know what's interesting? They just all left, right? Yes. Two of them sat in the lower audience. The vast majority came from the balcony.

1:23:44The balcony's not afraid. Oh no, a couple of them went over there.

1:23:50Jason Mantzoukas:guys i'm all wrong tonight here we go rad second opinions these are cold from amazon like i said this is only available on amazon in a bootleg version uh there are only always available on my computer i will always have it um there are only 110 reviews total because again there's no official seller but i will start off with this one and it may be a little navel gazey but why not The title is Paul Scheer, I Hope You Like the Movie.

1:24:26Jason Mantzoukas:By Kyle from Georgia. I sent the copy I bought to Paul Scheer at How Did This Get Made. Hopefully they'll do an episode on it because it's one of the best movies of all time. Wait a minute. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. That means your name on Amazon is your own name? So anybody who sends you stuff from Amazon knows it's you? Oh, no. He sent it to the address that we have for the show. Oh, okay. It didn't just arrive at our home. I was going to say, if that person has your home address, move. I wanted to hand deliver this copy of the movie Rad and also let you know the exact age of Lori Loughlin when she made the movie.

1:25:12Jason Mantzoukas:This one is from Regina. Regina writes, Husband about peed from excitement of finally being able to buy this on DVD. Thank you. Five stars. That is a couple that is into water sports. Peter F. Loder writes simply this. He watched it four times the day he got it. Five stars. Wait, he said he watched it or I watched it? He watched it four times the day he got it. I don't know. Wait, there's not previous information? Nope. No, but you're not saying... What are you talking about? Yeah, okay. Hold on. The balcony's got us all mixed up. Wait, I swear to God, it's all balcony. It's all balcony people that write these reviews.

1:26:08He also titled the review, Five Stars. So the title of the review is five stars. And then it says, he watched it four times the day he got it. This review is haunted.

1:26:25Sounds like a balcony monster.

1:26:29Jason Mantzoukas:And finally, I don't know if this is funny, but it's intense. This is from Andrew F. And he goes, I am a huge Rad fan. It was my favorite movie growing up and still is. I've seen this movie hundreds of times on VHS and on a DVD copy I bought years back. The DVD quality wasn't much better than the VHS, but at least it had a menu with chapters that I could watch on a DVD player. I have always tried to keep an eye out for a better quality DVD and was skeptical when I found this because it said HD quality, and I found that hard to believe because this movie has never been released on DVD. I figured I would give it a shot because it was only 20 bucks, let me tell you.

1:27:07Jason Mantzoukas:It's the best$20 I've ever spent.

1:27:13Jason Mantzoukas:The quality is unbelievable. It looks better than some Blu-rays. No joke. I don't know how they got it to look so good, but it's well worth your money. I was telling my brother how good the movie looked, and he thought I was full of it until he watched it. Ten minutes into the movie, he was like, I'm going to go on Amazon and buy myself a copy. If you are a fan of this movie, you need to buy it now. You will not be disappointed. I tip my hat to Frankie's custom classics. I don't know how you got the movie to look so good, but job well done. I have been waiting for something like this for a long time.

1:27:52Jason Mantzoukas:Thanks. Five stars. Oh, wow, Paul.

1:27:59You really embodied that gentleman. That was amazing. That was a transformation before my very eyes. That's a monologue you should use, Paul. That is fantastic.

1:28:10Jason Mantzoukas:That's my contemporary model. I guarantee that dude, A, is single, and B, talks about Rad on first dates, 100%. All right, so we've said a lot about Rad. I wanted to go and ask you, Jason, would you recommend this movie? One million percent. This movie, and I will say, the colors were popping. The dancing was both erotic and also romantic. Two things that I just adore. I thought the ass slides into sewage was an interesting choice, but I enjoyed it. I thought the little sister was a home run. This movie, T to B, top to bottom, was fucking rad. June? It's hard. I know people like this. I see the numbers.

1:29:06I hear the response. I see the t-shirts. I know that there's an audience out there. You see the cosplay? Yeah, there's a cult following. I don't understand it. Do you think if you watched it seven more times you would? No, I mean, listen, this movie's not for me. It's just not anything that I care for. so I had a really difficult time watching it I hope to never watch it again I know I'll never drag that file over into the trash but I did not like it

1:29:48Jason Mantzoukas:I will say like that stranger whose eyes widened when they saw Bart Conner walking down the street 30 some odd years after the completion of this film my eyes too were open to the balls out nature of this film which I also say is rad this to me this sits comfortably in the pantheon of movies such as Miami Connection these are movies to me that are not just because their t-shirts are similar the red shirt with the black text this was a pretty spectacular film. 100%. Here's the deal, people. There's so many people to thank here for the show. Nate Kiley, who does all of our research. Good on him.

1:30:39Jason Mantzoukas:Good on all the people sending me all that rad merch. You've convinced me we did it. Hats off to the F-man. But also, fuck you. Yeah, I mean, thank you. But also, fuck you on behalf of June and I for sending us zero merch. And a big thank you to Averill Halley, who cut all these amazing clips and found that clip of the Olympic gymnast. So, so good. As we wrap up the show here, because we are running a little bit late, I'll just ask, does anyone have anything they want to plug? So, at the end of this month, Adult Swim is going to air June 24th at midnight. Adult Swim is going to air a special that I made with Brian Husky, Jesse Falcon, and Rob Corddry.

1:31:18It's called Mr. Neighbor's House 2. It basically posits the idea, what if David Lynch created the Mr. Rogers show? It is super dark and it's very funny. So please watch that.

1:31:33Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, I'm good. You're good. Well, I'll simply plug. I have a new podcast miniseries with Amy Nicholson called Unspooled. Thank you very much. Unspooled, which you can get anywhere with podcasts I heard. We actually watch good movies and it's been super fun to do that. Thank you, Chicago.

1:31:55All right.

1:31:55Jason Mantzoukas:It is now time Time for second opinions. All right. Good. All right. How does a badly acted cinematic pile of shit get past the studio and get green lit? How did these actors get roped into this garbage fire? Lori Loughlin, I can see, but come on, really? Talia Shire? Movie about BMX? Who the hell asked for this choreographed dance scene on bicycles? Are you serious? Cost 11 million, pray to God it makes it back Otherwise this thing is headed down on a hell track Well the word got around They said damn this film is real bad All the critics hated it and said it wasn't very rare But a few brave souls tried to save its good name So they went online to earn their fame What's your claim man?

1:32:47Here's my second opinion This film deserves five stars on Amazon But it still left me with one big question How the fuck did this get made?

1:33:01Jason Mantzoukas:Give it up for Brian. Brian, come on over here. You stand over here. That one's for Lin-Manuel Miranda, everybody. It is now time for Second Opinions.

1:33:21Yes, I believe that this movie was good. I know I'm not alone. The bicycle dance was my favorite scene. It still hold ups, it's true. Lori Loughlin, Talia Shire was great too. And some guy that plays crew. I got a long on to Amazon to give this movie its due. BMX racing gets my heart pacing. Got a review to do A review to do Critics say it's bad But I love rad Second opinions Second opinions Five stars Five stars Second opinions Second opinions Five stars

1:34:23Jason Mantzoukas:Amazing What's your name? Mallory Mallory, give it up for Mallory Come on over here Chicago You got great songs They're all long You got them, they're great Alright It is now time for Second Opinions Woo Don't stop me now Cause I got a strong opinion Gonna post it online Don't ask me how This movie even got made This movie's a favorite of mine I'll use poor spelling In my second opinion All caps like I'm yelling These are second opinions Five stars on Amazon

1:35:09Jason Mantzoukas:Give it up for Brie

1:35:15Jason Mantzoukas:it is now time for second opinions

1:35:22frozen in silence watching this rad flick gotta keep my cool watching them do sweet ass tricks It's a game of wills we're playing. Opinions made of steel. Balanced on the edges of everything I feel. It's gonna take all we've got just to make it through this plot. Gonna do it on Amazon. And buy this crap tonight. Get ready to rate five stars. Feels like no one else agrees. Typing it in all caps I'm gonna make you see Only I can make it right I can rate this shit five stars tonight Beautiful Give it up for Jeff Come on over here Jeff Great commitment He's got this

1:36:22Jason Mantzoukas:It is now time for second opinions All right, stop. It's time for second opinion. Saw a rad film, now I got a new mission. This movie did everything so rightly. Bought the DVD, watched it daily and nightly. I gave it five stars, why? I don't know. Just turn off the lights and then join the show. Yo, to the extreme, I write reviews like I'm Cisco. This movie did it right, but it failed in the fiscal sense. It's not as good as the room, still sweeping up razzies like a bomb-ass broom. April Halley making clips like a melody. A movie this good should count as a felony. Jason and Paul here to show you the way.

1:36:58Go balls out, you know, crew don't play If there is a plot hole, yo, June will solve it

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