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23:35That would be pretty funny. I hear what you were saying, though, about wanting. So one would think that there would be a moment where he starts crying. I do think that. There has to be. That's what it was set up for. I think what they were going for, and I don't know if this is because Sylvester wasn't able to muster up the tears. I think Sylvester Stallone, sorry to interrupt you, does not want to cry on film. Okay. Has he ever, though? Because I was going to say, I think it could have been written in the moment where he's staring at the photograph. Which, by the way, at one point in the movie, he simply pulls out a photograph of Jo Beth Williams and stares at it.

24:09Oh, in the frame? He talks to himself. Yes.

24:12Jason Mantzoukas:He talks to himself all the time in this movie. Well, but he has a frame of Jo Beth Williams in his office where her office is only feet away. He goes to the office to talk to this picture. She's still at work. And he is basically getting. You're absolutely right. Because even when they were together, if he wanted to think of her or whatever, he could just simply look up. And also, she's his boss. You can't have a framed picture of her on your desk. It's really fucked up. In 1992, though. When was that picture ever on his desk? When they were together. Really? Did they really break up? I don't even think they broke one.

24:44I have to say that's the big flaw in the movie, too, is that they have no chemistry. Every time they're on screen together, it's like these people hate each other. Can we talk about her and leading ladies of the 90s movies? Sure. Oh, my God. Let's fucking get into it. Bonnie Bedelia. Go. Ann Archer. Go. Ann Archer's amazing. Let's break it. Elizabeth Perkins. Who is the one that's not?

25:05Jason Mantzoukas:Gina Davis. Yes. Gina Davis. Which is who I thought that was for a hot minute. Because of the red hair. Yeah, that big, boofy hair. She could not be any less attractive. Is this a horror? Adding to the misogyny of the movie is my take that she looks like she's a 70-year-old woman. Yeah, she is not dressed. They don't play up her sexuality at all. Right, right. It's not Joe. It's not J.B. Joe. Which is good because she's in the workplace, guys, and girls don't have to sex it up just to be the lieutenant of the police department. I will say there was one scene, and you'd have to go and watch it, but it's a scene where he is getting drunk and talking to her picture where I felt like they were running late in their day.

25:40Jason Mantzoukas:they're like oh shit we're gonna go over our 12 hours get Jo Beth out of the trailer well she has no makeup on I don't care shoot her side of the scene she looks good throughout but then there's one scene where she is makeupless I swear to god it was only on her close up it was like we gotta go we gotta go no touching what they were establishing is that she's in jeans it's after hours this is the dress down I agree with you but I think the weird thing about the way her character comes off is it doesn't feel like and this has nothing to do with her being a lieutenant wait after hours Where she hangs out at the job?

26:11Yeah, she changes in terms. She said she came in just to get some stuff. Oh. Yeah. So it does feel like she's a divorced woman with two kids. Wait, did that say? Really? Oh, I love this fact. No, what I'm saying is that's what it felt like to me. Not that she. Will you write a movie that is the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of this movie? Where it's an entire movie that. About Lieutenant Gwen Harper. About Lieutenant Gwen Harper, her divorce, her two kids. And it ends with her meeting Sylvester Stallone for the first time. It didn't feel to me like she was looking for a husband. The energy that was coming off of her was like.

26:45Desperate craziness. I've lived. I'm looking for something to work here. And also when they're talking about their trip to Catalina. And all the sexy things he did. None of those sexy things happened, right? They went to Catalina and just laid in a bed together. And never had sex. They actually laid in two separate beds across there. And he presented his ass to her. I would believe it. I would believe if she fucked him for the weekend in Catalina. Strapped it on. Strapped it on. He got into that position he loved. She like pulled those down and she just went to town on him. Because the shot was crazy.

27:22I'm thinking about it again. No, no. That shot is mental. It is so crazy. He puts his ass in the air like he's presenting it for somebody. Like a bonobo gorilla. He is giving his ass to her. For someone to eat out? Yeah. Oh, okay. If you put it that way. Yes, exactly. It's like he's wagging it around, being like, hey, anybody want to see what's up over here? But then he snuggled. Did you notice also how he snuggled into the bed kind of in the fetal position? Like in a very passive way.

27:56Jason Mantzoukas:He's a very sad character, by the way. Very sad. A deer head in his apartment. Okay, I really want to talk about the art direction of this. Are we going to talk about the gumball machine? The gumball machine. I want to talk about the jack-o'-lantern. Jack-o'-lantern. Yep. I think the jack-o'-lantern was a cookie jar. I'm almost positive. I'm almost positive. The jack-o'-lantern was a cookie jar. Okay, so it wasn't Halloween. After I saw it, I was like, oh, I guess it's Halloween, and this is going to somehow tie in. I don't know how, but like. I love that you're looking for clues, though. I did.

28:38Wait, Kate Spenton, did you just do a spit take? Okay, then there's another shot. Another prop I really want to talk about is when he's lying in bed. I saw it in the ass shot. There's a little lamp that's hanging over his bed. A red lamp? Yes, that has two socks hanging off of it.

28:59Jason Mantzoukas:He's a dude. I didn't know. He's a dude. But why put your socks up there? Oh, my God. Because he's a dude. He's just getting home. He's putting socks on a lamp. Crying them out. Oh, my God. He's going to wear those socks tomorrow. Yeah, I have to wear socks just for one day. In a line. Okay. In a line, when you're introduced to his apartment, on the table behind him is a bathtub rubber ducky. Literally. These are decorations. A bathtub rubber ducky. A gumball machine. This is in the kitchen. This is in the kitchen. This is like a countertop. A gumball machine and a Jack-o-lantern cookie jar. A giant glass chocolate.

29:39He shares the frame with all of those items.

29:41Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, it's not indicative of anything of his character. Not at all. Like, his character is not, like, a fun-loving guy. Doesn't eat a cookie once. If I saw those three things, I would be like, a child molester lives here. Like, not all of these things are for children. Wait a second. Maybe he does. Maybe. I could argue. Okay, I'm now going to argue why it's happening. that he, that they, that they, and this also explains some of his behavior, is that he is like still a child. Is that he's stunted, stunted it, blah, blah, blah, because of his mom, blah, blah, blah. So they were like, so that means like, let's put kid-like stuff around the apartment.

30:20You know what I mean? Like, let's decorate. But that's not, because he's not a hunter. Yeah. It's never acknowledged. Well, by the way,

30:27Jason Mantzoukas:I don't even understand what kind of cop he is because in the beginning you would assume he was a good cop. He did this, he busted, He beat down Ving Rhames. He bested these guys. Got all those Panasonic's. He saved all the Panasonic TVs. But then one detective comes and is like, hey, Detective Alka-Seltzer. What was that about? I have no idea what that means. And then he's just kind of saying, you're a bad cop. I'm like, is he? We've only seen him excel at police. Yeah, because they establish, too, that he's just a sergeant. And his mom is like, you're never going to move up. And that sergeant's not a high position.

31:00But then he's the one who goes in and rescues the suicide jumper. Yeah. I think here's what I think. I think the other people in the force in that precinct are very upset that he's having an affair with the boss. And that's why I think that guy's upset. Because if you look all of their scenes, Sylvester and JBW's scenes in the office behind them through those blinds. Right. Yeah. People are watching and looking and reacting. Guys, we have not talked about the extras in this movie. The extras in this movie are nonstop amazing. The people that fill out the rest of the police station are hilarious.

31:37At a certain point when Sylvester and Estilgetti get into a fight on the street. Sylvester's on the street. The mom is in the doorway of his house. It's nighttime. Upwards of 20 bystanders just appear to watch them fight. People are hanging out of windows. People are like, and it is, all of them are so animated and are overacting so much. Like one of them is like, she's right. Like it is crazy. That's a running theme of the movie is that any time like the outside public hears that Sylvester has problems with his mom, they feel, they all feel collectively that he's in the wrong and she's in the right.

32:18Jason Mantzoukas:The best version of that is when he's trying to save his mom from going to the airport, they frame a shot where his mom is on the back of a golf cart driving through an airport lounge. And he's having this dramatic scene with his mom. And the guy driving the golf cart is like, mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. He's so center frame. It's awkward, but he's got to react. You could clearly tell her, yeah, just pick a side. But she's like, you don't like me. He's like, yeah, yeah. It's a funny scene you should watch. I can't describe it more than that. The more I think about it. It's such an awkward extra replacement.

32:48Jason Mantzoukas:They should have just moved it off the golf cart for a second. Yeah, or just had that guy get off and move luggage or something so that he's out of the shop. Don't frame it as a three shot when one of the people is a non-established extra. Can I, this has been bothering me for 24 hours. The criminal who has a cold and that the cold is a running theme throughout the whole movie. Or it's allergies. So he can just have the sneeze that then shows him that he's there in the locked closet. It's a long way to go for that sneeze. It was a real long way to go. That sneeze is worthless. They are on the trail anyway.

33:20The sneeze doesn't prove anything. The sneeze is... Although there was an amazing moment where the boss man said, when his two henchmen... Worst villain of all time. One who has a cold. When Estelle Gideon and Sylvester are about to show up, he needs them to hide somewhere. And he says, go into the side office. Side office? Everyone has one.

33:40Jason Mantzoukas:Of course. What's a side office? What was his deal? That villain was so bad. I feel like the sneeze brings us back to an idea that we have to definitely talk about, which is one of the writers of this movie is Blake Snyder. Now, Blake Snyder has made – RIP, God rest his soul – has made his career. He's dead? Yeah, he died a few years ago. Oh, I didn't know that. Writing a book called Save the Cat. Save the Cat has become like the new kind of go-to how you write a movie book. and I would say first of all I was looking for a save the cat moment we were talking about this before we started which is a save the cat moment is a moment normally at the beginning of the movie which endears you to the that's what you're saying there's no lovability in either of them I don't think I think it was that I think it didn't come until you find out he planned his father's funeral when he was 13 years old that was the only moment I was like oh he's okay well in my mind I thought the only the save the cat moment was when he shot at that sign and it fell down on the crooks I was like oh okay yeah Like an A-Team episode?

34:42Yeah. Do you realize there are two occasions in this movie where he shoots a chain? Yes. He shoots a chain and it breaks. That sign and then the wrecking ball. Yeah. That's how good he is.

34:53Jason Mantzoukas:He can shoot a chain and it will break. But you see, to me, this is the sweaty stuff of Save the Cat. The sneeze thing goes back to, we'll establish a game and that game will undo the final thing. And also like the first and the last shot, like in the first scene of the movie, Sylvester Stallone like shoots a sign down and then literally pulls the gun up to his mouth and blows it like you would do as a kid playing like guns, you know. And, you know, like whatever. He says a line. And at the end of the movie, Estelle Getty shoots somebody, blows the smoke. I guess shoots him in the shoulder. She's a shitty shot.

35:25That's what infuriated me. She didn't even kill the bad guy. To me, the problem with the movie also is that one would think that it would be her. What irritates him about her, you know, should somehow help him in the end get the bad guy or the kooky ways in which she is and her personality should ultimately come back and help save the day. What happens in the movie is just she knocks people over the head with pans and then shoots them. Like there's no there's no skill that's used. in an interesting way.

35:59Jason Mantzoukas:I would like this movie where Sylvester Stallone's mom is coming in, but also the bad guy's mom is also coming in, and they have dueling lines. That would actually be great. Great movie. I would have liked it only if Jackie Stallone had played Sylvester, if his real mother had played. Have you ever heard her? Oh, my gosh. She used to come on Howard Stern. She's like a so-called lunatic. The movie is a bummer, though, because you sort of have this feeling at the end where even if he does get rid of her, he's saddled with his other mother figure. Yeah. There's just such a depressed life view about women and their role in a man's life.

36:34It was such a bummer. And he didn't want to be with her anyway. No, there was no like... No, that's the moment we never saw except for him staring at a picture frame that he genuinely liked her at all. There is something really kind of crazy about his...

36:50Jason Mantzoukas:Because he did eat all that breakfast too. Like what human would I go like when his partner, his partner also, the worst partner, of all time because he's glass but Tony but sometimes they say he was shot in the bus but he was shot they're like oh you your partner got shot but no it was very clear yeah but he had glass in his ass he thought he was so inconsistent yeah he was shot and then and then Sylvester Sylvester pulled a piece a shard of glass out of his ass he was a terrible cop no wonder his mom was a better partner I fully believe everybody was a terrible cop every single crime scene Sylvester arrived on, he inexplicably immediately became the lead detective on the scene.

37:29Jason Mantzoukas:And walks through without any hesitation. And he's always in civilian clothes, so there's nothing to determine that he is a cop. And they came across a guy who was going to jump out of a building, a bank robbery in process? Oh no, that was the dream sequence. That was the dream sequence. The woman who had been kidnapped in the house with a weed poster. Oh right, oh my god. Oh my god, you know those people are bad because they framed a poster of weed. And he had a weed. That guy, the fat criminal, had a weed pin on his vest. Oh, my God. So that's how you established that was his house. By the way.

37:59The other crazy moment, and one of the more upsetting scenes to me, was when Sylvester and the criminal are sitting down at a table drinking chocolate milk that Estelle Getty has served to them. And she walks out. And then they both look at each other. And they're talking for a while. And they have chocolate milk all over their mouths. Again, a classic Beverly Hills Cop move. Yep. They have a moment. Very legal weapon. Do you think that maybe they were like eating each other's asses out? He presented his ass again.

38:28Jason Mantzoukas:Do you think that's the subtext of that scene? I mean, I would hope. If Blake Snyder wrote it, I would hope that that is what we were going for. This is what's like really just, I know I keep on saying the movie's misogynistic, which it is, but it also to me is like a very sad portrayal of men because the takeaway is like, oh, men are also very young boys. Yeah, all men are boys. All men need to be a mother. All women are mommies. And all women are naps. It was such a barber. Come and change my dye dye. Also, they never address the fact that Estelle Getty is a terrible person because she withholds evidence in a murder case.

39:01Oh, yes. So she does not want to help solve a crime, just wants to help. That's sociopathic. I now believe that you are right, June, and that this is a misery-style sociopath movie. Yeah, you feel what she needs out of him. Again, much like, you know, not like Jack and Jill, where you actually do feel for a kill. All right, Jack and Jill. Here we go.

39:23Jason Mantzoukas:I want you to want to, we should do an episode where you talk. Let's actually just play one of the scenes where Sylvester is very upset with his mom. And he tells to Jo Beth Williams, this is with Sylvester and his girlfriend, just to hear where he's frustrated. Because I think this is a good little scene here. Gwen, she's supposed to go back Monday. That was before she witnessed a drive-by killing. Well, can we fly her back? Now you're being rejected. Oh, come on. Gwen, if she stays back Monday, I just want to get up killing myself. What is wrong with you, Joe? Tootie seems like a wonderful person.

39:49Warm, caring. Obviously crazy. Yeah, crazy is right. She acts like I'm a second grade. She talks to total strangers about my diaper rash. She just humiliates me. I'd say she loves you, Joe. Well, either way, she's staying.

40:03Jason Mantzoukas:There we go. Again, the most shoehorn plot device. She's got to stay with you because she's a... And there's another suicide reference. That's three. This is a dark movie. movie. I also, I know it's Sylvester. I would like to put it out to our audience to cut a trailer for this movie that makes it seem like a horror movie. That would be amazing. You could easily do it. Yeah, easy. There's so many shots of her that are spooky. And if you change the music from like clown car music to actual scary music. Oh my gosh. He talks like he has a muffin in his mouth. All the time. All the time. And I know that's his thing, but in that scene he's holding a dog and I couldn't understand anything he was saying.

40:43He is talking He also is talking at times so slowly in scenes. It's as if he's never spoken the words before. And you know what? When we were talking about the props, I actually thought to myself, I think the eye had to go to the props and to the surrounding because the scene was so long and he was talking so slowly. He is. It is like when he's opening his mouth to talk, it is like a black hole opens. And I don't care what any of it's and nothing happens. But for someone who can't talk, he has a lot of monologues. in this movie.

41:15Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, but for someone who can't talk, you shouldn't be doing a comedy because that would be where the majority of the movie would be. How about the I'll be back joke? Oh, yeah. How weird was that? pop culture references in this movie that were so out of place. Estelle Getty says, I'll be back and he's like, why'd you say that? And I'm like, what, is this like a, is this like him taunting Arnold from within his own movie? Oh, of course, yes. Because at the time they were like the two big dogs, you know? And this came out the year that Terminator 2 came out. Oh, really? This is why I watched this movie and it was, I can't, like 1992 was not a terrible year.

41:50Like this movie felt more, if I watched it in 92, it would have felt 20 years old. Well, that's what I feel like, I feel like it feels like, it feels like if you said

41:57Jason Mantzoukas:this was like, yeah, it felt like it should have been an early 80s movie or something. But this is also the time. But the title and everything is very like, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. You know, we, oh, sorry, go ahead. It just felt like that. Like, here's a really, you know, The fact that the title's called Don't Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. No, no, Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. Or Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. But don't forget, Don't Throw Mama from the Train. Yes, that's where I get those. But you see. Right, right, right. But here's the other one. Or Throw Mama from the Train. Do you remember this movie?

42:27Jason Mantzoukas:Throw Mama from the Train. Cop and a Half, which was, Cop and a Half was Burt Reynolds paired up with a very young, tiny kid. So his partner was a little kid. And that was like his partner. And also Turner and Hooch, right? Which is a cop and a dog. Turner and Hooch, K9. Yeah. Like, there is, when I finished the movie on Netflix, all of the recommended movies, because I'd just watched it, was like a cavalcade of disastrous movies from this exact same era. Where people were like, buddy cop movies are popular. Let's subvert it in some way. Let's take a quick break, and we will come right back. Are your ad campaigns lighting up the dashboard, but not the pipeline?

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45:05Jason Mantzoukas:I do want to talk about one thing here about his clothes. Clearly, I think Sylvester Stallone, while shooting the movie, had like a change. First of all, his pants are always up way too high. He's wearing high-waisted jeans, basically. Yes. Which I guess that's just what jeans were then? I think so. Right? Yeah. All jeans were like that. But the shirts, like there was a shirt problem throughout the whole movie, right? Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes, because I felt like in the middle of the movie he changed to Hawaiian shirts. I mean, he had not really Hawaiian shirts, just like very pattern-y shirts. It was like Bill Cosby had shirts instead of sweaters.

45:43Jason Mantzoukas:This would be what he would wear. It was like the costume designer from The Cosby Show was on hiatus from The Cosby Show and came over and did this movie. I'll do this, yeah. I actually felt like there was a vision for his character in terms of the way he looked that was more boyish and more in line with the ducks and the jack-o'-lantern and stuff. I was feeling like he refused to wear that stuff. And so he wore these kind of tight T-shirts and jeans. Corderoid jackets. Yeah. It felt like, well, this tells me nothing about your character. I have no idea what I'm watching here. But I will say, J.B.

46:19Dubbs was impeccably dressed in some power suits.

46:21Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, she was rocking it out. She really set that up. What about the final line of the movie? Stelgetty notices somebody she saw in America's Most Wanted on the screen. Sylvester Stallone chases it down again, becomes the lead cop because another cop just hands him his handcuffs. Why is that guy at the airport with a gun? Yeah, no reason. No reason. Just to shoot at things. She coincidentally. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, like he says, she goes, I remember what he did. He killed his mother. Slow close up onto Sylvester Stallone. Weird smile and freeze. That's the end of the movie. Freeze frame. Well, I thought what happened, maybe I'm wrong, is that he sort of shared a look with the guy.

47:06Right. Like, I get it. Yeah. And then freeze frame. I thought he didn't share a look with the guy. I thought he was looking at his mom like, can you blame him? That's what I thought. That's exactly what I thought. Because I'd like to put a bullet in you. It was basically the subtext of that. She, in the, whatever, three weeks that she is in Los Angeles, witnesses a drive-by murder. She happens upon so much chaos and craziness that it's unfazed. She's unfazed. Although I will say. Someone is shot to death in front of her and she's just kind of like, ooh. She walks away. Yeah. But I have to say, this was, watching the movie, I'm like, wow, this was my image of L.A.

47:47at that time. Like, with drive-bys and stuff. I was like, oh, I guess that's what Los Angeles is. Trucks of guns. Wait, so this movie just proved to you a truth? This is a documentary, right? Wait, what? This is like an Errol Morris film. Wait, what?

48:02Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, by the way, we talked about it very briefly, but the bad guy is so terrible in this. Roger Reese, who I think was the love interest on Cheers. Oh, he was. For Diane. Yeah, right. But he was, I don't even know, I don't actually even understand what the plot of the scheme I don't know what his business was. And they solve it, like they sit at a picnic table outside and look at documents and figure out what the mystery is. So she never helps actually, like you were saying, with her wacky mom ways. Like a pineapple jar. They don't tie in. Those aren't going to come back. They never come back.

48:37Although she did make a cake. She made it with all those pineapples. I laughed when she opened that suitcase. That gave me a chuckle. To me, that's something that's what's so weird about the fact that Blake Snyder wrote this is that those things, those tropes of like using all of her games to come back and help save the day. It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be a good movie, but it was sort of shocking to know like, oh, that's not even.

48:59Jason Mantzoukas:Well, here's here's like, I mean, I would argue that you could not describe Sylvester Stallone's character with an adjective. because you don't really see him being unemotional. They say he is unemotional. You don't see it. You don't know if he's a good cop or a bad cop. The mother goes, I mean, she's also, every character is this. She's a, they're all terrible people. Everybody in this movie has like borderline personality disorder. They genuinely do not seem to understand basic human interactions, empathy. like nobody's in control of anything like it is everyone is a stone cold disaster and no one genuinely likes each other no they all fucking hate each other oh yeah he gives the other guy a swirly an adult man gives another adult man a swirly in this movie and not really even commented on after the fact I was like if guys are gonna fight who are cops they're not gonna give each other like swirlies that happens a lot in the police in LA that was the whole rampart Yeah.

50:03Estelle says to him at some point that she wants to spank him. No, no. She says that to the bad guy. Yeah. She says that to the bad guy. She's like, I'm going to pull your pants down and give you a spanking. Oh, mom. I mean, that was that's some sexy ass shit right there. Well, she knows a peen when she looks at it. You can also cut a trailer for this movie, guys, that is a porno. Yes. Or is about Estelle and Sylvester. It's like, oh. Oh, cut a romantic comedy trailer. A mom-com? For them to follow? For an incest movie. I love that. For a sexy incest movie like Spanking the Monkey, but funny.

50:42Jason Mantzoukas:Obviously, we had opinions about this movie, but there are some people who have a larger, a better opinion. Second opinion.

50:54Jason Mantzoukas:Second opinion. These are reviews called from Amazon, five-star reviews. I'll read you both of them could be a joke. I don't know, but they're both well written. I think they're worth reading. This one's from Timothy. Sylvester Stallone stars in another comedy. Why? I don't know, but it's a real comedy. His mom is the most annoying person in the world, and it reminded me of all my friends' moms. Reminisce. Stallone is a police officer, as usual, and his mom packs a wallop as well. What are the odds? And from the beginning credit of this picture showing you the old woman pulling out a revolver and shooting a stop sign, I knew this movie would never be forgotten.

51:33Jason Mantzoukas:One diabolical moment showed Stallone in a diaper. Outrageous. I don't want to see that again. Universal needs to put this movie on DVD as soon as they can because mothers fighting against crime love it, and so do I. Oh, my God. So that could be real or fake. I feel like that sounds real. And this one, this is another long one, but it's worth it. This is one of those movies panned by critics, but both endearing and of enduring value. Chemistry. Perfect casting for the comedic tension. Poetic acting. The plot is a twisted. Poetic acting? Yes. Paul? Poetic acting? Poetic acting. The plot is a twisted, timeless cliché ignored and bemused by seriously real characters.

52:17Jason Mantzoukas:Stallone as the strapping adult son befuddled and arrested by his tiny mom is hilarious. Estelle Getty puts it all together as a mom who variously is tenacious, quintessential, sympathetic, dejected, and sly. Jo Beth Williams excels in her role as a romantic interest in the comedic setup, but Estelle becomes our mom, the universal mom experience. And she busybodies her way into the impossible action-adventure situations and standard detective novel dysfunction romance. What makes this movie so great is its profound and uplifting humor created through a sum greater than its parts. A common fantasy story interrupted by an everyday mom.

52:56Jason Mantzoukas:An omnibus well played. What? Five stars by Wilhelm. That is a really ludicrous. Poetic acting. Quintessential. Quintessential. Profound. Omnibus. Oh, man. So that is that. I will also tell you what Sylvester Stallone said. Do it in a Stallone voice. Do it in a Stallone voice. Maybe one of the worst films I've ever been in. Maybe one of the worst films in the entire solar system, including alien productions, which we'd never seen. A flatworm could write a better script, and in some countries, China, I believe, running the movie once a week on a government television has lowered the birth rate to zero.

53:37Jason Mantzoukas:If they ran it twice, every 20 years, China would be extinct. Wait, did you say - He did some math there, though. That's hilarious. Did you say a worm could have written a better script? A flat worm. A flat worm could have written a better script. Not just any worm. A flat worm. Wait a minute. By the way, that's fucking hilarious. This is really funny. But this is why I question why he did the movie, because he's one of those secret smart people. Yeah. Because he wrote Rocky, right? Yeah. He's sick. And Rambo. Yeah. And he's written everything that he's written. Oh, yeah. And then what was this?

54:07I know he probably wanted to do comedy. It's the early 90s. But the choices.

54:12Jason Mantzoukas:He was paying for steroids with this one. This is like paying off a house or a vacation thing. That's so crazy. Because it is so bad. But there are also three writers. So you feel like Blake Snyder wrote the first draft. It might have been funny. And they're like, we've got to bring the Stallone guys, too. And all three writers in there produced an 86-minute movie. Which launched a bidding war, if I read. Oh, really? According to the Wikipedia page, there was a bidding war for this movie. Oh, my gosh. What? What? I mean. Really? Stallone. Getty. Cop movie. Moms. it's gonna be great. Holy shit.

54:47Jason Mantzoukas:That's depressing. Would you guys recommend seeing this movie to anyone? I think it's, yes. Yeah, sure, why not? Sure. I mean, it's terrible. It's terrible, but it's very, it's watchable. It's on Netflix. Yeah. It's watchable, yeah. I did get a genuine laugh in this movie. One genuine laugh, and I was embarrassed to admit it, but there's one scene where he's like shaving or brushing his teeth, and they pull out to reveal that Estelle Getty is literally in front of him and between the bathroom mirror and him. It's like, because she's so short, you could hide it. So she's underneath him yelling at him.

55:25Jason Mantzoukas:But I thought that was a funny reveal. I think we're putting a lot on Sylvester. I actually really think the bigger problem was with her. Wow. I've never heard anyone place the blame on a step. I know. I know. It's so controversial. I felt like she's doing something we've already seen her do on Gold. Uh-oh. It was like there was nothing different. Not pulling any punches, finally. Taking on Estelle Getty. Because she wasn't Italian. She was Bobloski? Yeah. Bobloski. It was different than a Sofia character. I think that's why you can argue she never did another. I mean, she did two other movies, but they were very far between.

56:01Jason Mantzoukas:So you wouldn't characterize her as a feminist icon? Did you feel that she loved Sylvester? Yes. You did? I genuinely felt like she wanted to fuck him. Yeah, I felt something maybe she trained him to present. You know, she was the youngest of the Golden Girls. Yeah. And died first. That's always a crazy stat. I feel like she might die every night and they reanimate her every morning, like in some sort of fucked up. It's like a weekend at Bernie's. Yep. Hey, anything to keep off their rockers on the air, which, go check it out. Please don't. It is really fun. It's actually a good show. It is. June.

56:37Jason Mantzoukas:June. I will say that it's all. June, what are you talking about? I was the one who, June had the same reaction and I made her watch it. And because Rob Hubel told me, he's like, you got to watch Off Their Rockers. I'm not watching that. What are you talking about? No, you guys. We may have been a little stoned, but it was really good. So you're watching Jack and Jill and Off Their Rockers at home? Well, I saw Jack and Jill in the theaters.

57:00Jason Mantzoukas:And with that, we bid you adieu. Thank you, everybody, for listening. You can follow Kate Spencer on Twitter, at Kate Spencer. That's me, yeah. That's very easy to do. Thank you for having me, you guys. Oh, my gosh, we're so excited to have you. You can follow me on Twitter, at Paul Scheer. At Miss June Diane. Yeah, not on Twitter, guys. It's not happening. Two of my comic book is out in the stores, Aliens vs. Parker. You can get it online. You can get it in stores. Thank you guys so much. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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