Superman IV: The Quest For Peace LIVE! w/ Natasha Lyonne & Jessica St. Clair (HDTGM Matinee)

25:13Jason Mantzoukas:That's my question This is what we need to get to the bottom of So as a professional Superman expert, what I find the most upsetting about this film is they... A PSE. A PSE. Is they just repurpose scenes from the first two movies. Like, this scene where he takes her flying is in Superman 1, and it's beautiful, and it's like an amazing scene. And here, like, let's just do it because he needs to tell her a secret, and then he's going to, like, give her amnesia again. But in Superman 2, the whole thing is she finds out he is Clark Kent as Superman. Is that amnesia? And then they forget it? Well, so what happens is they're at a hotel.

25:56Jason Mantzoukas:They're doing an expose on cheesy hotels. And she keeps on trying to kill herself to prove that he would rescue her as Superman. And then he finally puts his hand in a fire. I know too much about Superman. and and uh that's not in this movie no no but but this is but no but this is the fourth one so in the in the lineage of the story like that's the fourth one so we we understand that so but the idea was at the end of superman 2 she's like i'll keep your secret i know everything he's like great then he kisses her so hard that she forgets everything from that movie what and so because like in the first movie he flies around the earth and then like rewinds the earth which I have issues with.

26:41Jason Mantzoukas:But, um, but, so he kisses her so hard she forgets. What's interesting is can't the Flash do the same thing? Yes. So that's a problem. But nobody gives a shit about the Flash. Flash would have to run. If there's two people in the DC universe who can reverse time simply by reversing the axis of her, that's really, that's foolish. Tell it to the people at DC. You know what? I'm going to. Take care, everybody. See you later. Only coming back when I've got an answer. Bendis is finally going over to D.C. to correct this problem. But this is, so this thing where he just, like, takes her on a flight and then basically roofies her to not remember.

27:24But then she goes. That happens all the time? No.

27:27Jason Mantzoukas:That's, this is, this is why this movie. No, but this is why this movie makes it so dumb because it was a big deal that she found out. and then he fixed it. And now it seems like whenever he wants to kind of like chat with his therapist, he's like, yes. When Superman 3, what happens there? She doesn't know that he, she doesn't, she's barely in it. And she doesn't know. She's like often in France. I wonder, negotiations broke down Was she in France? Yeah, she was in France. She's always in France. She loves France. Superman 2 opens up with her in France. This movie perpetrates that myth that women love France.

28:02That's true. So the whole idea is that

28:08Jason Mantzoukas:It's a big deal That she knows but then she says to him I always remembered Even when you gave me that amnesia kiss I remember because she said I never forgot But then that takes away everything It's a stupid So wait when he gives her this amnesia kiss Does she still remember? I don't know Is that a power he has? In addition to moving things? So can he kiss and it not be an amnesia kiss? I don't know. Every time he kisses you, you don't remember what just happened. That's fucked up. Or what if they decide to stay together? It's like a Superman roofie. You know something has happened. You feel like your butthole's sore, but you don't know why.

28:51Yeah, right? That's how people love each other? That's how people love each other? This is what women are like. This is what women are taking back the night. Oh, God. Top of the patriarchy. We're going to topple the patriarchy in France.

29:08Amnesia kisses. I wanted to ask Natasha because as a young... Everybody else, don't listen. ...girl, one of my earliest sexual memories was watching Flash Gordon. Old school, where they had a tin can and then he'd be tied.

29:26Jason Mantzoukas:There's even no new school of Flash Gordon. Okay, fine. So that was it. And then I was trying... You mean the TV show? The TV show. Yeah, where people be tied up every so often. You know what I mean? People be tied up? Hang on. You're a wild cat. That's right. Love to unpack this for a minute. At any rate, I spent a lot of this movie watching it thinking like, did this turn me on when I was little? And I was wondering, I think top up Superman does it for me. from the bottom especially those boots is killing my lady boner yeah I would argue that did you feel anything I can't tell because I was so blinded by like definitely like Gene Hackman like Lex Luthor that's who you're into interesting that's my scene and I feel like in general that's your scene an apartment that looks like a TJ Maxx home goods you know what I love your scene.

30:27How about his fucking, that gold blazer he puts on? Well, I think he and Mariel Hemingway were sharing wardrobe. I am not. I'm not a lame. I am not surprised to find out that Natasha Lyonne is horny for villains. Yeah. Yeah, Lex Luthor. Come on. And the whole time he's like, he's like, he's so khaki. He's like, yeah, I'm a genius. Give me all your money. I'm taking over. I want to see this movie. I just want to see this movie. And he's like, yo, ducky, break me out of the clink. You know? He's great. I just got a text. Jesse Eisenberg has been fired as Lex Luthor in the new movies. You are in.

31:10Please. I wish I could get a job like that.

31:13Jason Mantzoukas:I will say that as much as it seems like no one wanted to be here, Gene Hackman and Christopher Reeve are, first of all, Christopher Reeve killing it, I think. Always. Always in the moment. but Gene Hackman also funny thing about Gene Hackman is Lex Luthor is a bald man fully a bald man but he was like at certain points like oh I don't want to wear that bald wig anymore so he just wore his normal hair and they never justify it like at least the second one they're like oh it's a wig and then he takes it on yeah that's what Lex is like he's like fuck your wig I don't want to fucking wear it that's why don't you feel like Lex that Gene Hackman that was like the last time his hair was like that full and it was kind of giving him some energy like some like a real joie de vivre you know what i mean like he had a very bill murray-esque energy i thought i was like i liked it but also i also thought the worst plan of all time to escape from jail lex is working on a chain gang his nephew Lenny Luther played by John Cryer who is literally Ducky but with like a Valley Girl accent big big choice I'm sure that for all of us watching certain things like Margot Kidder's French Mariel Hemingway on the table Ducky's accent as an actor you're like wow these are major choices that It's almost like at the beginning the director was like, I need everybody to make a choice that seems too big, then double it.

32:51Jason Mantzoukas:They're like, we're going to make up for the lack of budget in performance. You give me$2 million. What about John Cryer's, like, the scene you can tell is looping when he's being spun. And that's where the Valley girl, I want to watch that too. Well, the plan to pick up for Lex, and this is where the movie is this lazy, It's like he comes in a car and the plan is like, this car is going to be so cool that the two security guards watching Chain Gang are going to be like, I need to listen to the sound system in this car. So then they're going to have to get in. And then he has a remote control to flip down the seats.

33:27Jason Mantzoukas:Never mind that he has just driven up to a prison camp. and then the car like launches off a cliff and then that's their only means of escape yeah no no there's a truck oh the truck the prisoners arrived in is what they then leave okay all right well then good but i will i agree i agree they trashed a pretty cool car i like that car it was all decked out with the lorraine did you guys think it was amazing like seconds after so they drive off a cliff, they're definitely dead. Then you cut to the... You think? Right? But, then you cut and the police are like, we're still alive! And I feel like somebody in a screening was like, that's too sad.

34:12And so then they just put them on a rock in Griffith Park and were like, ah, I'm still here.

34:17Jason Mantzoukas:This whole movie is about weird cutaways. Like when Superman and Lois Lane are flying, she takes off his glasses and then puts her on a belt loop. That's weird. I'll keep these for later. Like, they're weird. But it's also very much a cartoon. And that's what comics are like on the big screen. Interesting. Tell us more. Yeah, that... I don't want to talk about this. Just a couple... So a couple of things about this movie. Christopher Reeve had story by credit. This is his movie. He wanted to tell this story because the nuclear arms race was very important to him. And he also... He was a notorious communist.

35:00Am I correct? Yes.

35:01Jason Mantzoukas:So he was pro-Russia. Yes, and that's part of the thing that goes on that we don't really see, but yes. Can I say something? I'm so sorry to interrupt. This show is all interruptions all the time. So don't you worry. On Amazon, are you guys familiar? When you watch it and then there's the little pop-ups of the information, early on it says, oh, Christopher Reeves was so sad that the movie was such a flop and it was so bad that it destroyed any credibility he had. Yeah. And he really had put his heart in it and was very disappointed to find out that it was going to be actually this bad of a movie.

35:43And it really colored my experience.

35:45Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, Christopher Reeves, because you read that before you watched it. I just felt, and of course, because of his life in tragedy, and then I did have this darker sort of K-hole. You know what? Come to think of it, I have not seen him in a movie recently. Okay. Who wants to?

36:10Jerk City, population one.

36:12Jason Mantzoukas:Christopher Reeve, but apparently, according to some of the research I hear from our expert researcher, Nate Kiley, Christopher Reeve was not super nice, or I guess not nice to Margot Kidder. Margot Kidder's like, ah, he had a crazy ego on this movie because he wrote it and he wanted to do his own thing. And then his autobiography... Oh, and he fired a fancy director, didn't he? Yeah, well, Wes Craven was the original director of this movie. Okay, guys. Yes, Wes Craven. Now, um... The, uh, this is... Wes's pitch for the movie. Okay. It's like a scary Superman. Bigger nails. Bigger nails. And he comes out in Superman's dreams.

37:00Jason Mantzoukas:And he's clawing. Oh, and his face is burnt from the sun. And he's got a cool fedora made of the sun. And he's got, and it's a red, it's like a red sweat. It will never work, Wes. It will never. This is Christopher Reeves' autobiography, Still Me. He wrote, we were so hampered by budget constraints and cutbacks. Canon films had 30 projects in the works, and Superman IV received no special consideration. For example, we wrote a scene in which Superman lands on 42nd Street and walks down the double yellow lines to the United Nations where he gives a speech. If that had been a scene in Superman I, we would have shot it on 42nd Street.

37:42Jason Mantzoukas:Richard Johnner would have choreographed hundreds of pedestrians and vehicles and cut the people gawking out of office windows. and instead we had to shoot in an industrial park in England in the rain with less than 100 extras, not a car in sight, and a dozen pigeons thrown in for atmosphere. That is, that is fucked up. Not a lot of, not a lot of credit was given to those pigeons. No. Who, those few, those few pigeons had to represent a multitude of pigeons. You know, if June were here, I figure she'd. So many. Also, like, they didn't have pigeons in England before then, and then they brought those pigeons over there, and now they're like...

38:22Now pigeons have taken over England. It's an epidemic of pigeons. Well, well, well, between Christopher Reeves' disappointment, and of course the way his life panned out, and Margot Kidder, and the intensity level of... Which one is Margot Kidder? Lois Lane. Lois Lane. Oh, got it. And you know, what happened to Margo was not great. What happened to Margo? Wait, what? What's up with Margo? I really don't know what happened to Margo. No, you're not being serious, are you? Yes, I'm being serious. Oh, well, look at that. No, look at that. Guys, we'll Google it later. Google it later. Let's all just be quiet for a second while you Google it and we watch.

39:04Why? Did, like, a gorilla get her, rip her face off or something? Well, the point of the story. That's, like, a really tragic thing. Very dark. She, the double whammy of their tragic lives for me.

39:19Jason Mantzoukas:It was hard to watch. It felt very much like a K-hole experience. Perhaps I was more like being watching Apocalypse Now and Surround Sound. That's tough. Something about the human. Did you feel like maybe this movie was cursed? Yeah, like humanity and how broken and how sad and how dark it all becomes. just because of kind of, you know, the hope of the original Superman, likely. And then the turn their double life took. I mean, and so... And we'll be right back after these messages. Well, the one thing that was going great for this movie was the glasses. Everyone had pretty big glasses. From Merrill Hemingway to the reporters.

40:04Jason Mantzoukas:Everyone was rocking some solid space. Well, I think that tells us who is smart. If you have glasses on, you're a smart person in the movie, right? You know how to read or write. I feel like they, like in Tron, they did that too. Like the lead in the original Tron, like wore glasses, but you could tell he was not comfortable with it. He's like, yeah, I'm a nerd, but I'm also sexy. So he'd always just carry his glasses in his hand. Like they were like, almost like, yeah, I got these. I can wear them at any time, but I'm not because I'm sexy. The guy who plays the editor-in-chief, is he always that person?

40:40Jason Mantzoukas:Perry White or the guy from David Warfield? Thick, thick glasses. That's Perry White. That's Jackie Cooper, yes. He's like always the kind of editor of the Daily Planet. And how do you feel like you know who's who?

40:58Jason Mantzoukas:I felt like in this movie, though, everyone said, like, I'll definitely do Superman IV. or I can give you seven hours. Yeah. And no costume changes. You're just going to show up in this LeMay suit, and I'm going to shoot it, and then I'm taking that suit with me. Also, my family owns a gym. One of the scenes need to be shot in that gym. Yeah. Would it surprise you if I told you the original cut of the movie was? 35 minutes long. They had to add scenes. 135 minutes two hours sorry over two hours and it tested so good that the canon brother the canon film company like we got a hit on our hands let's cut it to 90 so we can make play it more and so apparently according to everything i've read the 135 minute version of the movie is actually pretty good and wow and they made it worse and i'm going to show you was that ever released in any?

42:02Jason Mantzoukas:That is wild. Like, does Ducky's drum talent have a storyline? Because we see them, we talk about them once, but I don't know what else. Nothing would make me happier than if that was really Ducky. If at the end of 16 Candles he was like, oh, I just got a letter. My Uncle Lex needs me to help out with something. See after graduation. Yeah, I guess I'll see you later. You should have chosen me. By the way, Nothing in Lenny Luther's life made sense. He's a valley guy, but he's also into music. He's punk rock because he has a mohawk, right? But it was like nothing really. Like if he was punk rock like that.

42:47I feel like he was all teen things in one. So that every group could be like, he's just like me.

42:56Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, it worked for the nine-year-old me. because I love John Cryer and I was like, I love Hiding Out. I love Pretty in Pink. He's the best. I would love to be Lenny Luther. You know, so it worked for me. See, it only worked for me at Ducky because I was like, I'm 100 % Ducky but every other John Cryer was like, I'm not this guy. Not even Hiding Out. Hiding Out is a good movie. Can I ask one question too? Remember the scene where they first broke out and they were in the museum with Superman's hair? Yes. Real strong hair. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're wearing checkered pants that look like you would wear like if you were a chef or something, right?

43:31That's legitimate fashion for the time. And a tiger top. Is that a sports team I'm not aware of? Or why are they dressed identically?

43:39Jason Mantzoukas:This costume designer was mad. Like, and took it out on the actors. Oh, I thought you meant insane mad. Oh, no, no. I feel like her paycheck or his paycheck bounced. Clearing. Yeah, checkered pants, tiger shirt. Yeah, it could have been one of those things where they were like, you know what? We're giving you all the clothes that you can use. Figure it out. Like, as if the wardrobe department couldn't go and pick and choose stuff to build stuff. They were like, we got a dump truck full of weird clothes. Half of it's from a clown picture a couple of years ago. Make it work. It's like kids playing dress up.

44:17Jason Mantzoukas:It's like, this hat will go with these pants. But it's almost radical, like how 80s it is, because it's one of these movies where across the board, you forget how 80s the 80s are and then you see something like this and you're like oh that's what they mean yeah this is like when Christopher Reeve is selling his house and he's in those jeans that are so loose around his nips but then also so tight around his dick yes I thought this was a real Jon Hamm scenario loose hip and tight dick lee jeans

44:55it's yeah because he had to pick a side can i can look at see i feel so bad for him side you don't get to be superman unless you have a gigantic dick look at how long the fly is like this portion yeah is three times longer than normal jeans big dick jeans Loose waist, tight dick. But I just, it makes me... There's so much fabric. Yeah. There's so much fabric. You know what? Dicks of dead people. That's my thing.

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49:22In the TV show Oh no, in the new Oh yeah, that's Smallville you're thinking of I think so, right? You're right I believe it's Smallville I jerked into that guy though straight up well during Smallville time? no no during Dukes of Hazzard during Dukes of Hazzard yeah everybody jerked it to Dukes of Hazzard right? raise your hand if you jerked it to Dukes of Hazzard right? that nobody you cowards they're so young you cowards boss hog all day long Roscoe B. Coltrane the P stands for penis um I'm just kidding it was Is there a new Superman?

50:06Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, Henry... Oh, right, right, right. Because I had a moment where I think it was after the suicide number. Yeah, where they jumped off the building. Boy, do I wish that had been a musical number. And then I was like, oh, this is crazy. No wonder they keep remaking the picture with Tobey Maguire and Kristen Dunst. Oh, boy. And then went down the road a bit inside my mind and discovered that he's not Spider-Man. Right. I had a similar thing, by the way. I love that you almost had like a choose-your-own-adventure journey on this. You were watching pop-ups. You went down the rabbit hole. Natasha, it took you maybe 25 to 30 minutes of the movie to realize Superman is not Spider-Man.

51:04Again, like I say, not my genre. Of course. I had a similar feeling. I really did. Right? And I knew that they existed, like I mentioned previously. Sure. I was fully aware of Superman's vague existence. Of course. And also Spider-Man's. Sure. However, for me, it's not something, it's not a Godfather remake. Not that I want to see that, but I'm just saying... You want to see a Godfather remake? But I'm just saying it's not like... Natasha Lyonne on record is saying they should remake The Godfather? Yeah, I'll walk off this stage. I will walk. No, I don't want to see a Godfather remake. Yeah, but I'm just saying, it's not something I really...

51:44Yeah, it's just crazy that they make so many of them. And also, poor Kristen Dunst and Tobey Maguire. Poor them? Why? Why? I mean, can you believe? They must be like every five minutes. They make another. That was our remake. Right.

52:04Jason Mantzoukas:Did you even know about Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone? They did one too, the two of them. Yeah. And then now there's more. There's more. Now there's a new one. There's a new one? Now there's a new one. Tom Holland and a bunch of other people. And people love it. They love it. I just don't want to spoil it. I'm not going to say who the... Are you the casting director? What's that? Are you casting it? Is it already a shot? I am no longer a casting director. But you were great because you gave honest feedback, but you were also very supportive. Yes. Always very supportive. And I always read with the people that I was auditioning with and tried to be better than them.

52:39Yeah. Yeah. That came across. A lot of people don't know. Like you would improvise lines. A lot of people don't know that a lot of my acting work comes from being behind the camera. That's true. Reading against actors and then people being like, we should cast that reader. Hey, can I just ask one question, Palmer? I'm so sorry. This has been a question I've had in my mind for a long, long time, and I've never bothered to ask anyone or Google it. That green stuff, that green crystal, is that kryptonite. What do you think is going on there? What? What do you think is going on there? I think that his planet that he was born in was made of kryptonite.

53:18What I can't understand is then why is kryptonite the one thing that will destroy him? Yeah, you're pretty right, actually. What do you mean?

53:27Jason Mantzoukas:That is like... That makes no sense. I was... Pretty right. Here is the reasoning behind it. Because I had the same thing, and I think this is what it is. But that kryptonite is not bad. There's different types of kryptonite. What? Right, yes. So there's... When kryptonite, I guess, exploded, different pieces of it came off. I'm loose I'm fuzzy on this math as well I didn't understand why that kryptonite was like kind of like you get another life like I didn't get like oh yeah we just gave you this spare life in case like by the way love that whole sequence where he became an old man and became bald holy shit in like one day I have questions about that yeah I have questions about that but very quickly can one nerd explain the kryptonite to us hold on let me if you can raise your hand like there's a blue kryptonite that does something there's a red kryptonite that does something but i think the kryptonite in this movie is bullshit okay hold on i'm gonna go down be careful gotta get in all right you're gonna explain the kryptonite what's your name sir my name is andrew andrew take it away kryptonite explanation so there's different kryptonite but it's different colors this is just lazy filmmaking there is no other explanation i feel like they were like let's have crystals and they're like oh well he has green crystals so let's make it green crystals but that's not what kryptonite is at all what is it it's never green kryptonite no kryptonite is green and it's a whole thing where do you think that was kryptonite in the under the barn no not at all because it's part of his ship which is also green for some reason got it okay yeah it's just lazy it's just them so there was no green there was not kryptonite that was just green substance from Krypton.

55:11Jason Mantzoukas:That was speaking like his mother for some reason. Right, but then when he goes... It was essentially underneath the Kent family barn is like an answering machine from his mom that he still plays the old message from because it's like when you keep an ex lover's lover. By the way... Ew. Kill me. I'm done. when you keep an ex's voicemail just to be like remember what they sounded like yeah it's like that and then you accidentally hit return call and then you just leave a message tells them how they really fucked up again um then you talk about it on a podcast cut this out of the podcast cut this out of the podcast We'll be right back.

56:10Jason Mantzoukas:But there was another part of that. Oh, God. So to the point about the kryptonite, I will say this. It makes no sense that he goes back to the barn to get that piece of kryptonite because he already built his fucking fortress, which is where all the crystals are anyway. It wouldn't be like, let me keep one spare here. The only reason why he went back in the first way. Why? Because his mother says, the voice, I'm assuming it's his mother. Yeah, it is his mother. The voice says once you remove this crystal, this green slime will go dead. So he'll never be able to hear her voice again. But he's been able to do that in the Fortress of Solitude in the other movies.

56:49Oh, really? He talks to his mom? Yeah. Oh, okay, then fuck that. Is that where he, like, removes it and puts it in?

56:56Jason Mantzoukas:Can I just talk about the scene that drove me nuts? And I know we haven't even really gotten into the whole nuclear war subplot, which is so prescient in this time. Where he hammer throws a basket full of nuclear warheads into the sun. I wanted to see him sew that net, the net of, by the way, a bold move to be like, I think that would be okay if I throw this into the sun. If the warheads were all... Touching each other. ...jamming against each other, wouldn't they just blow up? Yeah. It's like a net of sardines, only it's a bunch of warheads. Wait, how do you mean... Wait a minute. How do you mean sardines?

57:35What's that? When you catch sardines, you catch it in a net like that. Instead of the sardines, it's a bunch of warheads in there.

57:42Jason Mantzoukas:So you're not even talking about sardines in a can. You're talking about sardines in a fishing net. Exactly. Because most people refer to the cans. That's how they are before they put them in a can, dick. Right, but when they're mashing up against each other, they don't explode. That's right. so I'll believe the ridiculousness of that nuclear net what I won't believe is the weird justification that they got to get them to do a double date scene that double date scene is like why would why would he ever subject himself to such stupidity that's insane and guess what she's serving scallops and duck that is two risky risky meals to prepare so For a date.

58:27Also, gross. It's gross.

58:30Jason Mantzoukas:Like on a texture level, gross. But Superman somehow knows how to cook perfect duck. Like, she's like, the duck turned out great. Was he speeding it up so that he'd have to stay there for too long? Remember? No, because he needed it to be on fire so that way he could get out and become Clark Kent. But he didn't make it go on fire. He just cooked it perfectly. He just cooked it to perfection. But I would agree with you. That's what I thought was going to happen. That would be the smart thing. I was a little in and out. I was a little in and out. It's the classic, oh, no, I've got two dates at the same restaurant, and I have to shut...

59:04But there was no reason for him to subject himself to that. He was dating on purpose. Also, is Lois Lane dating Superman? Yes.

59:13Jason Mantzoukas:She has a thing with him. She's just getting an interview, right? Yes, but they always, like, have datey interviews in the movies. What was up with that indoor laptop? Do you want to talk about that apartment? that apartment by the way indoor hot tub everybody in this movie has balconies like giant balconies even Superman which seemingly or Clark Kent seemingly lives in a shithole has a beautiful fireplace in his living room working it's like West Side Story a little another movie I haven't really totally seen me neither but I feel like I have yeah but like from the stills I've gathered a lot of fire escapes A lot of balcony work and stuff.

59:54Yeah, a lot of balcony work.

59:55Jason Mantzoukas:I will just point out a couple things in Lois' apartment. Dual golden candelabras. Yeah. I would still like that. Is this Lois' apartment? No, no, this is the rich. This is Mariel Hemingway's apartment, I think. Oh, isn't it? Yeah, she's loaded. Are you kidding me? And she's rich, as she says repeatedly. And is he wearing a wig? Which one? Lois? Mariel? No, Reeves. Lois is dressed like the mother of the bride. She's like, I'm just going to pair this silk. But I feel like both of them, this really, I find irritating. This is like, you know, anybody who's interested in the fashion of it, like that this is now so hip in Brooklyn or something.

1:00:38Oh, free, hang on. I can't handle it. Hang on, hang on. I find it makes me angry. Up in the upper right-hand corner is Mariel Hemingway's initials. Wait, is this her actual apartment? It's not her character's name. Do you think they shot this in Mariel Hemingway's apartment? Very, possibly. It's a Marriott Hilton. Yeah. Oh, maybe it's, yeah. Maybe it's the name of the building that they are in or something.

1:01:02Jason Mantzoukas:Was it ever a thing to have greenery on, like, lattice wallpaper, too? I mean, I can't tell if that's real or, oh, let's see, I'll open it up big, yeah. But that, oh, no, I guess it's not real. I think it's painted on. It's wallpaper, maybe. I really want to show you this thing. This is something that we can never really show our listening audience. We can just show it here, but I'm going to urge you, if you're listening, to Google this. So the movie was 134 minutes, which means that a lot of stuff was cut out, like the fact that there was another nuclear man that was cast, fired, and then recast in the movie.

1:01:41Jason Mantzoukas:And here is the scene. Cast, fired, then brought back? No, no, sorry. Fired, then they recast it with the actor. I can't describe it because I'll let you watch it. Here we go.

1:02:07The End

1:02:48What is happening? Wait a minute. Time out. Time out? I don't want to fight, okay? I just want to know where you come from. destroy this man.

1:03:05Jason Mantzoukas:So what we just watched was like an odd Buster Keaton fight scene. That music was embedded? Is that part of the soundtrack? Yes, that was not... What we heard, that boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, was part of the movie. The quality is terrible because clearly no one wanted you to ever see that. So he is, that's more of a, like, Frankenstein's monster version of this character. Yes, the nuclear man character. Or like Frankenberry. Or Frankenberry. He looks just like Frankenberry. He does. Just look like. And they have this fight, and it makes you go, actually watching that scene makes you go like, holy shit, they really, they pulled it out.

1:03:48Jason Mantzoukas:Like, they, like, if that's what they were shooting, they were like. Can you imagine if that had been the movie? This would be a legendary movie. Yeah. And that's got to be a choice you make when you're looking at dailies on a picture like this. Like, do we go all in? Not only that. Right. And they should have probably. They went through hair and makeup, wardrobe tests. They went through weeks of work with that guy to become that guy, then shot with him. But when you see it, you like, the internal team is like, you guys, the movie's not great, but... Yeah. we can turn this one around so and by the way I would argue the nuclear man that they got that we're looking at here with the gold tights he almost looks cooler than Superman yeah he looks like a cooler version of Jeff Fahey I like his look better you know well there was a cool thing they were going to do too they were going to put Superman they were going to put Christopher Reeve in a black costume and make him be like a version of Adam.

1:04:55Jason Mantzoukas:The bad. That's what I thought was going to happen. Right, because it's his hair. Yes. And remember when they're putting all this stuff together, it looks like a little wonton, like an old wonton. And then some like paprika. And then one other thing, I forget what it is. A piece of cloth. Oh, a piece of cloth that tastes like a bunch of safety scissors. Is it an Asian person who's making the wonton? No. No. Exactly. Where are the Asian people in Metropolis? Where have all the Asian people? in this world. They had no problem cutting that Superman hair. By the way, the Superman hair that's holding a thousand pound weight, they're like, snip.

1:05:31Jason Mantzoukas:Seems like that would be... They had like super big comedy pliers or something, right? But still, super big comedy pliers shouldn't be able to get through that hair. No, no, no, they shouldn't. But Superman fighting himself, that's something I want to see. Yeah. Wouldn't it have been awesome? They lived in a very low security universe all together. It's pre-9-11. Pre-9-11. Pre-9-11. They're living in a pre-9-11 world. Between the cops in the beginning and the chain gang and later in the museum and so on. Wouldn't it have been great if they... Budget made them not be able to do those scenes because they did shoot them.

1:06:06Jason Mantzoukas:So they shot three versions of Nuclear Man. This comedy version, Christopher Reeve, and then they finally went to this other guy. And part of the reason why the effects are so bad is you will see this. This is a little montage of the flying scenes where they didn't change a thing.

1:06:28Yeah, same. Same.

1:06:42Jason Mantzoukas:Every flying scene is exactly the same. and it's the same with the um when they in the subway section when the subway with lois goes screaming by and you see all the people on the subway station are like oh and then superman flies by and it's the exact same shot of the same people being like oh um the budget's so bad that i feel like they used a part of universal theme park for part of the movie like when you go on the tour they're like that shark jumps out at you and then they go, oh, Mount Vesuvius is exploded and there's like, water comes down a thing, like that seemed like it was shot on the Universal back lot but nothing was changed, it was sort of like, I almost feel like they may have just put a camera on the tour by Batsangatna What I felt like didn't get enough attention and it wasn't explicitly said in the movie but like when they take Superman's hair, because it is it's holding up like a thousand pound weight is like it's a pube.

1:07:48You think that came from his... It's a pube because when Lex Luthor cuts it off, it like shrinks right back up. Wow. Into a curly little guy. Maybe that was some lost scenes about that. Yeah, where they explained how they got Superman's pube.

1:08:04Jason Mantzoukas:Superman straightens all of his pupa care with 1 ,000 pound weights. He just stands there. Originally, and this is what I read online, I'm sure it was a reputable source. on my PS website? Yeah, they were going to... Lex Luthor was trying to make Puberman a Superman based on Superman's pubes that would just be as strong as his pubes, which are very strong Puberman. Well... Long walk for that. No, no, no, no. Don't feel like you need to reward that. It was mediocre at best. I thought of it a while ago. I waited for it. It wasn't worth it. You waited. That's the sad part. Don't worry about it. I'm not too worried about it.

1:08:44Jason Mantzoukas:You shouldn't be either. There are a lot of things we need to talk about. We're going to go to the audience right now to see if they have any opinions. I'm going to run up to the top. It's going to take me a second, though.

1:08:57Jason Mantzoukas:Hold on.

1:09:01It's a long way.

1:09:05While Paul's doing that, don't you fucking look at us.

1:09:11Jason Mantzoukas:we're not here all right i'm back here i am can we get house lights get some house lights up do house lights exist all right so we're up in the balcony who has a good all right this gentleman right here i'll first uh come to you and um you'll say your name but say it in your best nuclear man voice. Okay, so, well, like a Gene Hackman with an echo effect. Alright, so, your name and your question. Here we go. I'll hold the mic. Michael. Great. That was great. So, my question is that in the first half, Superman seems focused on nuclear disarmament and then he fights nuclear man and decides to give up on nuclear disarmament.

1:10:04Why?

1:10:07Jason Mantzoukas:It's an internal battle that he's been having. Because he says, like, I can't do it for you. He's like, if the people want it, they'll give it. You'll get it. Well, that's kind of what the elders are saying in that scene in the Fortress of Solitude. Those elders. That was really a shitty scene. Like. Well, they couldn't get them for the day either, so they had to just, like, film themselves in their closet and then send in just their heads. I love the person who was like, you should just go to a different planet. Yeah. Yeah, like, give up. It's over. Yeah, like, hey, oh, you know what, bro? That place seems like it sucks.

1:10:48You should, like, do semester abroad somewhere else.

1:10:52Jason Mantzoukas:That's the kind of attitude that brought down Krypton in the first place. Sir, your name in nuclear man's voice and your question. Eli. That's right.

1:11:09Again on the whole nuclear disarmament thing, it's like the world's ratcheting up towards nuclear war and, you know, Russian, you know, I stand on the brink. And then Superman's like, I'm going to stop this. So they just agree to fire their missiles into space.

1:11:23Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, it was like... He took all the missiles, he blew them up, and then they were still testing missiles. It didn't seem... I don't know. I was confused by that. Well, it seemed like nuclear war was happening, right? Like, it was currently happening. Yeah, look, I don't think, yeah. I guess it was happening. Yeah, but do they ever talk about that? Was anybody like, it's all... Was it happening, or were they trying to launch the missiles so that Superman could take them into space? No, they were launching them, and he was like, psych, I got them in my net, my sardine net. Yeah. Just like that.

1:12:00Jason Mantzoukas:Ma 'am, your name, and you know how to do this. Here we go. Emily, Emily, Emily, Emily, Emily. Yeah!

1:12:12So my question is, when Superman takes Nuclear Man in the elevator to the moon, why not put him on the dark side of the moon? Agree. I mean, eventually, he smartens up enough to push the moon in front of the sun, knocking the moon out of its orbit. Yeah. Sending what I would only assume to be all of our planets into chaos. Yeah. Or a never-ending winter, at the very least. And catastrophically affecting every woman's period. That's your first thought. The minute he started moving that moon I was like oh shit Everybody bleeds

1:13:03That's what it is Superman he doesn't care about Women's menses

1:13:10Jason Mantzoukas:Alright you know the drill Here we go Love it So I'm guessing Lex Is a fugitive But yet he was able to sign a lease

1:13:24Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, it seems like Superman would keep better... You need a cosign for that? Lenny. It seems to me that Superman would be a little bit more like on top of Lex. Like, is he still in jail? Maybe I could just fly him back over there. Because he seemingly just drops him off as if no harm, no foul. What about the disturbing boys club that Ducky's dropped off at and the very handsome priest goes like, oh, we can handle all the boys. I was like, uh-oh. Uh-oh, that's a different movie that I haven't seen. Sir. Nicholas. Where did Muriel Henningwink go?

1:14:11It's a great,

1:14:12Jason Mantzoukas:great question.

1:14:17Jason Mantzoukas:on you guys take it what where did she go oh i have no idea paul you're so fit god he's doing crossfit i am so impressed that he made it all the way up the stairs there was no heavy breathing paul that like broke paul that question broke paul yeah he left I just got a text from him he said I'm out of here where did Mariel Hemingway go France she's in France I bet she is is that true France likes all women alright here we go next question Sarah

1:15:02my question is do you guys think this was written by flat earthers because Because they go to China and they start in America and then they go to Italy all in the same fight scene. And it's never dark in any of those places. Oh. Is that a group of people called Flat Earthers?

1:15:25Jason Mantzoukas:Isn't somebody from the view a Flat Earther? Are they still like a contingent that's operating? Still hoping to make their mark? flat earthers yeah they're out there yeah they're like trust us there are still people oh no no there are not the internet has given rise now to people believing didn't sherry shepherd on the view say the earth was flat like three years ago no right maybe wasn't that who it was and she's part of a cult and wasn't there somebody wasn't there a sports person who said it as well what Kyrie Irving a rapper too okay so lots of people are suggesting this is true do we have any evidence to prove that they're wrong

1:16:16Jason Mantzoukas:if someone has definitive evidence and not doctored photos we've all seen that one doctored photo of the circular earth Now more of this. B.S. All right. Ma 'am. Oh, grabbing that mic. Paul letting the... Oh, she is okay. Yeah. So obviously this was filmed in Milton Keynes, which is like an industrial town outside of England. And I feel like some production set designer was really self-conscious. So if you look in Clark Kent's apartment, there is a New York Giants flag, a Yale flag, a Wisconsin flag, and a Tampa Bay Buccaneers flag. How do we think he became a fan of all of those teams? It's whatever they had at a Big Five Sports in the sales bin.

1:17:09I mean, maybe he just was part of a flag giveaway.

1:17:15Jason Mantzoukas:Clark Kent loves penance. Not penance, but penance. Hi. Mike Penance.

1:17:28Richard!

1:17:29Jason Mantzoukas:Amazing. Okay, so I just found it interesting for how much Lois didn't seem to give a shit about Clark Kent. Like, to the point where she goes to his house, he's sick, and she finds a way to make it about herself. She's really cock-blocking Lacey. Because Lacey really wants Clark. And she's like, uh, Clark's kind of a boy scout. I was like, he knows how to tie knots. Right. He could put some more... It's one thing if you don't want Clark, but why are you trying to... You're all about Superman. Why won't you let Lacey... Why? It's just the glasses that makes her not recognize him. Well, now you're unraveling a much larger conspiracy.

1:18:12Because that's crazy. So Lois is never interested in Clark, right? Yeah, but I am confused because then she goes to the house when he's sick and she's like they look at each other like their eyes are saying it's like deep eye subtext. Yeah and she's saying

1:18:32Jason Mantzoukas:I knew it. I knew it. You know and I was like she went to the house she's like you're Superman. She's like I would tell Superman if he was dying we had a great time. Yeah. So like what's that? Yeah I don't know. I really don't know. Clark is always being friend zoned. Always. That's why he's crying all the time. See how he's always on the verge of tears as Clark can all the time. Like, he's just like, oh, they're saying that Superman's not going to help that kid. And then he's like, just looking out the window crying. It's like... Like Superman up. Yeah! There he is! Thanks, everybody! That's our show!

1:19:11Thank you so much, New York!

1:19:16Jason Mantzoukas:I'm going to go to the gentleman right here because he's wearing a picture of... Okay, in a podcast we did, we referenced that there was a picture on the wall of Betty White holding an urn. He is wearing a shirt of Betty White holding the urn. Yeah! That's amazing. All right, that's for Jason. Thank you. Thanks for bringing one for all of us.

1:19:44Jason Mantzoukas:It's weird, Jason. It's an XS. Yeah. I'm losing that weight. I'm getting shredded, bro. CrossFit. So, can you... Wait a second. My name? Pete. Great, great. I was confused by this quote from Lex Luthor where he says, it's about when he's explaining to Lenny how he could, like, a nuclear man can't survive out of light. And he says, he gets his energy from the sun. Without it, he's like you at night. Useless. I wrote that down, too. Yeah. What does that mean? Does anyone know what that means? Does it mean everybody's sleeping? Well, wait, you just said it means he's a limp dick. He's calling his nephew Lenny a limp dick.

1:20:34Jason Mantzoukas:I guess it's as simple as that. I mean, but I... So do you think Lenny... Oh, I see. Sexually, he's useless. He's like, but like, people try and fuck in the day. That's what I thought. I thought he should be like, he's like you trying to have sex. Yeah, useless. Like you at night means like going out, having dinner with, there's a lot of nighttime activities. We all power down at night as humans. This is why you can't make PG because that was... That's why you know.

1:21:16Put it on! Don't try and get me to put this very obviously poisoned shirt on.

1:21:28Jason Mantzoukas:What you were saying, that's why you can't make PG, because it's a, yeah, you can't... Oh, because then you have, you know, innuendo that is gibberish.

1:21:38Jason Mantzoukas:Obviously, we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people out there that had a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. You got one, here we go, here we go. Five-star reviews down from Amazon way. They love those bonkers movies no one else will play. They're saying Shaq, oh man, can he act? Watching Bloodsport all day, shouting Kumite. They're on the podcast now, our five-star family. It's the second opinion from Amazon.

1:22:11And I'm Lindsay.

1:22:12Jason Mantzoukas:Thank you, Lindsay. Wow, you did great. New York, Princeton. Well done. Well done. New York brings his second opinion songs. Also, a What's It's Mission shirt. What's It's Mission?

1:22:28Jason Mantzoukas:The shirt that was taken down by the Disney Corporation. All right, so these are five-star reviews, cold from Amazon. They can't stop us, though, Disney. You can't stop us. But they did stop us from selling that shirt.

1:22:46Jason Mantzoukas:Here we go. this is it starts off a little confrontational this is just from someone I should say I also am not able to sell my little spur made shirts anymore either

1:23:05the little spur made shirt that's pretty good that's okay guys that's alright that one was better than the other one little spur made like a little mermaid. That actually took me a while. Oh, little spermaid. But it took you a while, right? Yes, it did. I watch that movie every day with my four-year-old and that took me a while. Can I hear a little more? What does it look like? What does it look like? Specifically. It looks like Ariel. Right? Red hair. Except her tail is a sperm's tail. It's not a fish's tail. Do you know what was fucking me up? I was going the other way. Interesting. So the face was a little sperm with a little mermaid tail.

1:23:51I get it. I actually would argue that's a better visual. Yeah. Guys, well, you know what? We'll throw it to you, the audience. Draw up mock-ups of what you think the little spermade should be and send them directly to... What's your Twitter, St. Clair? St. Clair. Jessica. Great. Or something like that. I don't know. Guys, I don't even know how to check it No joke

1:24:20Jason Mantzoukas:These are five star reviews from Amazon Starts off a little confrontational here This was written September 4th, 2000 And it's referencing a VHS purchase of Superman 4 And out of the gate, starts like this First of all, to that guy from Sacramento, California It doesn't look like you've seen Superman 4 because there's no person named Lucy in it. I've watched it a million times over and over, and there is no Lucy. Secondly, you don't make any sense when you say they used unused footage from the earlier film in Superman. In the Reeves and Hackman scenes, they look the same. So don't make statements you haven't researched.

1:25:11Jason Mantzoukas:Lois is known to open up to Clark about Superman. Don't you know? Five stars.

1:25:22Jason Mantzoukas:Clearly, the dude from Sacramento, California got Lacey and Lucy confused. That was the confusion. This is one of my favorite ones. Also on a VHS tape. This was written on June 7, 1999. I know most of you don't like this movie. I cannot change that.

1:25:48Jason Mantzoukas:I just turned 10.

1:25:54Jason Mantzoukas:And I have watched this movie at least four times with all of my friends. Zev, Andrew, Vic, and Billy. And they all love this movie. And it's not just us, the children. we know who this movie was made for sure, discount it for your so called cheesy special effects but the kids we don't care the movie has a comic book storyline a good one to be exact and Christopher Reeve, Margot Kidder Mark Pillow and John Pryor and Gene Hackman are a great cast although you may not think my opinion counts but I hope it does to some of you five stars I would love I would love it if that 10 year old kid Was now like what 20?

1:26:4430? When was this? 28 And was in this audience So we could beat the shit out of him

1:26:59Jason Mantzoukas:And then This one I will say when I read this one I thought oh this person is being facetious You know what? Because it's like beating the shit out of a 10-year-old, but not. Oh, yeah, because he's 28 now. Because he's getting a beating he deserves for the 10-year-old, but he's an adult who can take it. Cut to the guy who's like, I'm here. Come get me. Nuclear man. I thought this one was facetious, but I kind of went down a wormhole and I found that it is not. Um, it's written by Film Aficionado, uh, in 2005, and it is titled Much Better Than the First Three Superman Films. Well, some 14-year-old children apparently think this movie is a flop.

1:27:52Jason Mantzoukas:Think they know the meaning of movies. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. The meaning of movies. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. that 14 year old brat doesn't even know the meaning of acne cream that he has to smear all over his gangly adolescent face any mature adult with half a brain knows Superman 4 is a fine superhero film better than the Batman, the X-Men and Spider-Man franchises Meryl Hemingway is incredible the special effects are years ahead of their time and Nuclear Man is the greatest. The Clencher, John Cryer. Need I say more? Five stars. Five stars. Like, honestly, honestly, the 10-year-old kid's review is much better.

1:28:54And by the way, he ends Need I Say More? Yes.

1:28:57Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, of course. You need say more. Just to give you some how to just get made knowledge here, the original, the director of this movie was Sidney Fury, who directed The Jazz Singer, which is a movie that we also did in this podcast. Wow. And he was fired after 48 hours of shooting The Jazz Singer. Whoa, what happened in those 48 hours? Oh, wait, of Jazz Singer. Yeah, he shot 48 hours of Jazz. Got it. He shot, not 48 hours, but two days. Wait, he shot the movie 48 hours during the movie, Jazz Singer. And they're like, you need to come to work on Jazz Singer. No, he's double booked himself. We gotta fire you.

1:29:31You're shooting a whole other movie.

1:29:32Jason Mantzoukas:Right. No, this director, Sidney Fury, literally shot 48 hours of unusable footage for the jazz singer and then was fired and replaced by another director. Can I ask a question? Yes. Was that footage used in the movie? Yes. Because it was awful. No, I'm just kidding. Then this movie, so in this year, the biggest movies were Three Men and a Baby, Fatal Attraction, and Beverly Hills Cop 2, this movie came in 69th of the top grossest movies. 69! Yeah! And it was beaten by other how-to-its-get-made movies like The Running Man, Jaws 4, Masters of the Universe, and Over the Top. The only one that it beat was the Garbage Pail Kids movie.

1:30:19Oh, God.

1:30:20Jason Mantzoukas:And finally, I just want to say that... By the way, St. Clair, you've got to see that movie. No, no, no, no, no. You know I can't even. The tagline of this movie, it was nuclear power, in the best hands, it's dangerous. In the hands of Lex Luthor, it's evil. This is Superman's greatest battle, and it is for all of us. That's too long. That's way too long of a tagline. Paragraph too long. But there is finally one thought that we need to hear. Somebody from far away has recorded her thoughts about this movie.

1:31:00Yes! Yes!

1:31:02Jason Mantzoukas:And, uh... Oh, I miss her so much! And here we go. Hello, New York City. I'm so sad to be here in Montreal and not there with you guys discussing Superman 4, the quest for peace. Guys, don't worry about this hat. you may have questions I don't have any good answers there but I do want to, Paul asked me to talk about Superman 4, The Quest for Peace and take a stab I haven't seen the movie, won't see the movie will not ever watch this film but that said I mean I don't watch any of them unless I'm doing the podcast obviously that said I will take a stab at what this movie might be about the plot to me is probably about Superman trying to stop nuclear destruction and Lex Luthor somehow bringing the world to the brink.

1:32:06I do find it odd, though, it's called The Quest for Peace, as though that distinguishes it from any other Superman movie. They're all The Quest for Peace, ultimately. I will say, though, the only thing I will add is that I love Christopher Reeve, and I appreciate him, and I miss him.

1:32:27And I think the love that he and Dana Reeve shared is a love I've never known. No offense at all. And the fact that she died so soon after him seems meaningful and great. I don't think she could be here without him. So that's my only thought, really. And have a great night, you guys. Have fun. I wish I was there. I love you all.

1:32:58Jason Mantzoukas:All right. Final word from June. So, obviously, we talk about these movies. We want to know, would you recommend this movie for the purpose of what we're doing here, enjoying them on a bad movie level? Jason. Well, I'm curious how many people here watched this in preparation.

1:33:20Yeah, pretty worth it. This is a pretty fun one, you know. it's a little long you know at 90 minutes it's a little long but I could have you know I could have taken a little bit less of it but very fun like really corny and silly there's a lot of good like I enjoyed it yes I would recommend Jessica I would as well because it doesn't have to do with the post-apocalyptic future which really does make me sick wait what? Any movie that... A lot of the movies you guys make me watch have to do with, like, Pluto Nash. Like, this is what the future's gonna be like, and we all wear blazers, and I... Got it.

1:34:03That makes me feel sick. But what do you... Free Jack, that's coming up, made me really sick. How do you feel about, like... This doesn't. How do you feel about, like, Hungry Games? Does Hungry Games make you upset? No, I can't. Yes. I haven't seen it. That's a post-apocalyptic... You haven't seen the Hungry Games? All I know is what's her face is in that clown makeup. You know. Oh, Liz Banks? Yeah, and that they're shooting each other for food, and I don't want to see it. You don't. Lennon told me the plot of that one and the girl with the dragon tattoo, and I didn't get past she was a ward of the state.

1:34:38I don't think you should watch that. And I said, I can't, what are you telling me? I don't think you should watch that. So this one didn't scare me, and that's why I liked it. so that's your measurement for liking a film or not is whether it scared you yep all right so it didn't scare me and it didn't make me feel sick four five stars Natasha

1:35:01Jason Mantzoukas:you obviously went down a rabbit hole with this one yeah I would recommend the first 20 like okay yeah until you realize that he's not super spider-man then you turn it off it's not even that so much i just feel like after that it's a you know excessive except the first by the way i'm into a 20 minute movie like you would have preferred it to be an episode of television yeah but this is also my preference with karaoke and this is a great idea so don't steal it which is similar idea which is i think it should only be the first verse chorus you're done i'm a 90 second karaoke guy. I'm like, I think that's what all karaoke should be.

1:35:41Jason Mantzoukas:That's a big idea. 90 seconds. It would be the best. I'm giving it for free tonight. I'm crazy Eddie. I feel less, I feel similar. Less singing during karaoke, the better. So much so that I would abolish karaoke. There we go. Guess what I don't want to hear? All you fucks singing in a bar I'm in. So I'm basically saying just the hits. Just the hits of this one. All right, so I would also recommend it. Let's go down the plug line here. Natasha, what do you want to plug? I don't want to plug. Okay, great. Jessica, do you want to plug anything? Um, no. Okay. Oh, I don't, no, no, no. I'll plug. I'll plug.

1:36:23Netflix. What a place.

1:36:25Jason Mantzoukas:What a place. Amazing place. I fucking love it. Great place. Great. Great shows. Great. Amazing shows. Great people. Orange is the New Black, wonderful show. we make we love that show Natasha shooting it now it's a great show Natasha what channel is Netflix? which is a question my parents asked who's asking you? what channel is it? yeah Google I do want to plug that Womp It Up is coming back November 25th and Gutterballs will be back and things get really intense we look at his commitment issues and, yeah, we make some strides. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Yeah. It'll be very exciting.

1:37:14Jason Mantzoukas:I will, Jason, what do you want to plug? Oh, I'll continue to plug Big Mouth. Oh, the best. Netflix. No, I'm just kidding. The fantastic animated show on Netflix that's got a whole bunch of people that you love from comedy as well as animated dicks. and animated vaginas. So it's pretty great. It's a really funny show about kids going through puberty. Congratulations. Such a great show. I will, I mean, this is a long-term plug, but I'll plug The Disaster Artist, which is coming out. It looks so good. Yeah. Jason, myself, and June are all in it with a bunch of amazing people. James Franco plays Tommy Wiseau.

1:37:59Jason Mantzoukas:Dave Franco plays Greg Sestero. It's really good. All right. Thank you, New York. We're going to pose these vectors. That's the show, but it doesn't end here. Listen to our mini episode where the discussion about this movie continues. You can give us a call at 619-P-A-U-L-A-S-K. That's 619-Paul-ask. I'll answer all your questions about this movie or even about your life. Also, if you like How Did This Get Made and you want to wear it or put it as a sticker or have it as a cell phone case, Head over to tpublic.com slash stores slash hdtgm, tpublic.com slash stores slash hdtgm, and you can check out all of our amazing merch like Put Her in a Bra or the Jason Zardoz shirt, which I particularly love.

1:38:43Jason Mantzoukas:A big thanks to Kelly Alto, Averill Halley, July Diaz, Nate Kiley, and Leanna Waldron, all who come together and put this show and help me do the show every single week. but more importantly, everybody here at Earwolf, their amazing engineering team that puts together this episode makes it sound absolutely flawless. Make sure you follow us on Twitter and on Facebook. I'm not going to explain where. You can figure it out, but it's pretty much HDTGM. See you next week. Bye for now.

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