The Odd Life of Timothy Green w/ Tim Heidecker (Classic)

21:23Jason Mantzoukas:Even the coach. Even the coach. Even the coach. He was just feeling some crazy moves. This is, by the way, a very big game between the Erasers and the Bone Crushers. The Bone Crusher is also a very aggressive name for a children's youth. For a 10-year-old. Wow, but the Bone Crushers coach calls out when Tim Green goes into the game. He calls out, go smash his knees. Put that kid to the ground. Yeah, take his knees out. Take his knees out is what he says. Yeah, he's basically Cobra Kai sensei. But how about you had a couple nice cameos from Emmett Walsh. I literally had to look it up because I was like, I thought Emmett Walsh died.

22:04But it's J.T. Walsh that died. J.T. Walsh died. And then Diane Wiest is also in this movie. Both fun to see or good performances.

22:11Jason Mantzoukas:There is some interesting stuff, though, because I feel like when you meet his dad. His dad is, I'm sorry, his dad is, is that David Morse? No, David Morse is his dad. Dave Morse, who I also like. Love. Love. He's amazing in this movie. The first introduction to him, he's like, all right, let's play some dodgeball. Oh, yeah, yeah. They give him the dodgeball. I guess what I'm saying is every parent in this movie or every adult in this movie is very abusive to children. Yes. Regardless, across the board. Right. And so he gets this dodgeball, and he's just whipping it at kids, just knocking kids out.

22:45Jason Mantzoukas:And he's not even really being shown as a villain in that scene. It's really like. He's played against his son, the father of Timothy Green in the movie, as being a dad that was always too tough and too competitive. Right. So I think that's showing him. Okay, just being tough with those kids. Yeah, it's like that's his thing. He's roughhousing and he doesn't, you know. Yes, but I do agree, Paul. He was hitting them so hard that it didn't seem like any parent should run in and say. Well, Timothy Green, this is the crazy thing. Timothy Green in the middle of the Dodgeball scene, the son comes out.

23:16And apparently Timothy Green's thing, I guess maybe for photosynthesis purposes, is when the sun comes out, he puts his arms out and he looks towards the sun and he closes his eyes. And everybody, wherever he is, whatever is happening, everybody quiets down and looks at him. Because it is odd.

23:31Jason Mantzoukas:If I did that, you would be like, what is – It's super weird. And also the music that's previously been playing in the scene, which I'm assuming is also playing in their lives, drops out. So they must all be like, well, where'd the music go? Oh, something's happening over there. Oh, this is another thing that you just said music, and it reminded me of the Lowrider. Oh, yeah, that was weird. Which was okay. You know, it was kind of cute. But I realize it's a thing in movies that happens when people start singing a song together. The actual song comes in to the movie. But in the world, it wouldn't and it doesn't.

24:03So it would still just be weird three people. I would love. Oh, anyway, the only thing I was going to say was in the Dodgeball thing, Timothy Green is like closed eyes, hands to the sky, and David Morris hits him in the back of the head with the ball. Yeah. I don't know if you noticed this, but you didn't see the ball hitting him? Did you see the ball hitting him? Yes, you did. You did? You did, yeah. I must have missed that.

24:24Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I like that baby Mila Kunis at one point says to him, teach me how you do that. Yeah. And, well, just play your arms and stare at the sun. I mean, that's it. And he goes, do you feel it? And she goes, yeah. And he goes, you're doing it. So you think that that's how he was being kept alive? Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm assuming. I mean, he was like a tree, right? Here's one of the weird things about his leaves. Sometimes they fell off and they were fully green. No, they all were darker. They were always kind of browning, I think. They were always darker in color. Are you sure? Yeah. And it kind of moved with the seasons, I felt like.

24:59Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I also had an issue with this idea with, oh, that's interesting, the seasons. Well, that was the lifespan of Timothy Green was from, like, spring to fall. Ooh, I didn't think about that. You see, I also had an issue, though, with Timothy Green being able to pull in sunlight, but then when he's in the chlorine pool, it doesn't do any damage to his... Could have been a saline pool. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. Could have been. And again, I know that I will bring up a couple points here that are very nitpicky. I understand that this is a, you know, it's a fairy tale. This is the biggest debate we've ever had on this show.

25:33I also took issue with just how much older the love interest was for Dorothy Green. She's five years older.

25:40Jason Mantzoukas:She's 15. He's 10. Oh, yeah. No, that's definitely weird. That's very strange to me. But I wasn't entirely sure it was a love interest. It wasn't sexual in any way. There was just sort of like a love. Well, she went to go kiss his lips, and then she pulled down his socks to see his leaves. I know it wasn't sexual. Oh, that's right. I actually loved their meet cute in the beginning when she puts the cherry on top of it. I love that. But I found it very weird that Jen Garner and the Zero Dark Thirty guy were making it sexual. That was so strange to me. Well, because they were horndogs. I think it was another case of not knowing how to deal with a new parenting situation.

26:20I mean, Eleven is on that line, don't you think? Yeah, really? Oh, yeah. She looks like a baby to me. Not for sex. Yeah, but they're not dating. But there's not even like, for girls, I agree with that, for girls, you know, because they're not dating, they're building forts in the forest together. There's nothing, there's actually, that's a great point. Besides the kids. The only people putting sex onto their relationship is the adults. Right. Like the kids themselves are building forts in the woods, are riding bikes. Right. They are just.

26:48Jason Mantzoukas:Do you think he has a branch dick? See, that was weird though. He's like, I'm going to blow chlorophyll all over you. I got my leaf legs and my branch dick. That fort looked weird to me. Oh, I thought that was really cool. Oh, I thought that was cool, too. Those, all the leaves, the yellow and red leaves. I don't like that on that leaf fort. I thought it was cool, but it looked like a fuck fort. I was like, why are they building this place out here? That was the question. To fuck in, of course. And I guess everything can be kind of swept under the rug in saying that, well, they're bad parents.

27:22Jason Mantzoukas:But he does have leaves on his legs and the parents bring him to a botanist, not a doctor. Right? And then they're ready. Well, yeah. Oh, and they are, yes, definitely. There's definitely like flaws in it in that way. Yes. They should go to the doctor. Sure. If this story, I mean, if this happened in reality, in the real world, well, yeah. If this happened in the real world, it would be a horror movie. Well, I mean, the fact is, it should be a horror movie. In a different context, it is a horror movie. Yes, but here's the issue I take with the movie, though, because I think they're - Who insists he's your son?

27:57And then kills an old man. I think what you guys are saying should have been the story of the movie. Somebody should cut an alternate trailer of this for that. Which is that they want all these things from this kid, but they're just projecting their own wants onto him. Right. What ends up happening, though, is not that they realize that in my mind. What ends up happening is that he teaches them how to make pencils out of leaves. And that to me is the strangest. That's a bit of a MacGuffin-y kind of story. I mean, that kind of keeps the plant going. Yeah, that saves the town. I don't think that's the lesson learned, though.

28:32But that's our climax that we're heading into the third act.

28:35Jason Mantzoukas:I think he's teaching them to trust their, because that was their dream. I guess they let their dreams die a little bit. Yes. Because they were so focused on having a kid. And he had these notebooks full of ideas. and those ideas also died because he put them on a shelf and then he took those off the shelf and then he started to like, we're getting so excited. What was her dream? What was her dream? This is fascinating. I want to watch the last 20 minutes again because I feel like they do make it about their journey as learning to be, and learning that they want to be parents. When they talk to the woman from House of Sand and Fog, they say, yes, we made mistakes.

29:14Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, we have learned from these mistakes. But you never really – they've only learned afterwards. It just occurred to me that their hesitation for adoption was that in their minds, having a kid was having their kid having this sort of genetic – Oh. You know, like, you want to have Uncle Bob – what is it? Uncle Bub. Uncle Bub's laugh. Yeah. And you're this and, like, all these things. And what they end up with is, like, a 10-year-old Asian girl. Right. I mean, I cried hysterically during that scene. Don't get me wrong. And it's like – The 10-year-old Asian girl scene. What they realized is like - I lost it.

29:48I cried in this movie. This is the third of our movies I've cried. Your parents for that. But okay. I see that. I see that. Yes to all that. But making pencils out of leaves seemed to - It's a great idea. Leaves fall to the ground. It's just waste. I agree.

30:04Jason Mantzoukas:I think that - I didn't understand how that would make the factory more financially - It's more expensive. I didn't think it was all the lumber. That pencil definitely looked expensive. Yeah, that was a very - time intensive process. There's way more overhead to produce that pencil. Are you listening? Casting it in some kind of bold. You're not going to get any argument from me that making pencils out of leaves is a rewarding result of the movie. But I think that it is it is like it is more the movie isn't building towards making pencils out of leaves. The movie is building towards are they good or bad parents?

30:38You know what I mean? Well can we play

30:39Jason Mantzoukas:I just want to play clip three here because this is really how the movie ends in the narrative here. If this boy can have a leaf on his ankle, then we can make a pencil out of leaves. What? That's how I'll go to work! That's the easiest logic job. Well, I think it is sort of that Disney, liberal sort of, you know, it's okay to be different, which, you know, it's a good moral, a good lesson, so, you know, it's a little heavy-handed, but it's also not made for adults. I mean, maybe it is made for parents. I do feel like it is made for, Because we saw this in the theater, and kids were, I mean, kids were distraught.

31:20Jason Mantzoukas:Looking at their watch. Kids were like, where are the robots? I think kids really connected to Timothy Green, and I think they're devastated that he dies in the end. Can I ask a question? Do you know if this was successful? Was this a successful movie? It was not a successful film. Yeah. And I will say the most successful thing from this movie is a viral video that spread around of a kid in the backseat of his car bawling. Oh, no. Timothy Green is dead. We'll play a clip of that right here, and I'll tell you how much it made it when we come back here. What was the movie about? It was about... It was about...

31:57It was about Timothy Green going back and he had to die. And then he had to die. I am lying to death. Oh, my God. That's insane. I am lying to death. I love it. It's a circle of life. I am sad. Is that Mary Stoenberg? It was so sad. It was so sad. It was so sad. By the way, the parents are just in the scene and are laughing. All the leaves came off, so we had to go. I want him now. Just do this. It's a success. Oh, my God. Wanting him to live forever? But he had to go. He had to go. Oh, my God. This is amazing. I can't understand. And it goes on for another three minutes. The kid's so resigned to it, too.

33:00He understands that's what had to happen. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He had to go. It's like Bambi or Old Yeller or Dumbo. Oh, those kind of movies, right? Sure. Yeah, I guess it is. It's a modern day. It is a modern day Bambi. Oh, my God. First of all, I think you have to, you know, I'm sure this was a story that Ahmed Zappa, you know, was told when he was going to sleep by a drunken Frank Zappa. A really tweaked out Frank Zappa being like, He grows out of the ground, man. Leaves, man. There's leaves on his legs, bro. Yeah. But it felt like maybe a little bit of like a Shel Silverstein kind of story.

33:34Jason Mantzoukas:And I felt like there was elements of that, but then it got, like, weird. Like, I feel like there were, like, those are the moments that, like, there was a part of this movie that felt like it should be this fantasy world, this. But then they, like, drop in these, I guess, more heavier elements. Yeah, like the plant closing and every, like, Joel Edgerton has to fire a bunch of people from the plant. Uncle Bub dies. Oh, Uncle Bub dies. And they leave the kid in the room with the dying. Again, if it's a kid's movie, it's like this guy is dying on his deathbed, and he's really sick. And then they're like, leave Timothy in there.

34:10Jason Mantzoukas:You let him keep him. Yeah, that was really upsetting. And the kid who plays Timothy Green, I thought was wonderful. Great job. And one Uncle Bub dies, and that kid looks up. And you see on his expression, this old man has died in front of me. It's horrifying. It's so upsetting. Yeah. No, I thought the same thing. That is the scene. where I was like, oh, this kid's a really good actor. He's amazing. Right. Well, can we talk? I think it's a huge success. We'll be right back. How Did This Get Made? How Did This Get Made? is excited to collaborate with Audible. Audible has a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts.

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39:12He draws her because he can only, you know, he can only be truthful to a fault with her hairy chin. And then she sees the picture and notices it because she's put her glasses on, but then says to everybody else, why didn't you tell me this? And then she and then Jennifer Garner unloads on. Right, right. But I guess my point is if she could see the picture, why couldn't she see her own hairy chin? well I think she knows she has a hairy chin but she didn't she doesn't know I think maybe she couldn't see it down there it's like faint it's pretty wispy it's like a crazy amount of hair on her chin I honestly didn't notice it maybe I've got to get my television fixed I have a hairless setting I'm not it takes all the hair off of women's faces it has that setting it's really good

40:00Jason Mantzoukas:these HDTVs are amazing I don't want to look at women with hairy faces so just edit that out Well, the two things I want to talk about. It's completely out of sync for everything I watch. The two things about this scene that make it odd. One is she looks at the picture and she's like, oh, my God, why didn't anyone tell me this? This boy is truthful. Right. What else? And then Jennifer Garner unloads. And then she fires Jennifer Garner. She goes too far. Jennifer Garner goes too far. And that's the thing that I actually liked about the movie was. And again, I can't believe I'm defending this. This is insanity.

40:30But the thing that I liked about the movie was here's a movie that's about, that is this fairy tale where the people who need to figure their shit out are the parents, not the kids. The kids are fine, you know. The parents, though, are stone-cold disasters. Like Jennifer Garner, like she just unloads on it and she's competitive with her sister. There's one thing that Jennifer Garner is really good at.

40:55Jason Mantzoukas:Crying and smiling at the same time. She's really, you have no problem doing that. Everybody in this movie is on the verge of tears almost with the whole movie. Just about to break. Everybody has wet eyes. Yeah. But no, I cut you off. No, no. That was just it. Just like it really is. They have all of the problems and need to feel like she goes to when given the opportunity with Diane Wiest, instead of making it right, she makes it worse. You know, like Timothy, again, is the catalyst, but she fucks it up. And then it has that funny, the real hilarious reveal when they say to House of Sand and Fog Lady, and I lost my job.

41:29One weird moment, not a major flaw, but the issue of how much time do they have to tell this story. Yeah, well, that was the adoption woman. The adoption woman is constantly putting a clock on. She's like, guys, you don't. TikTok. Is there like a line out the door of other parents for this meeting? Well, but she also backs down really quickly when she's like, your time is up. It was up five minutes ago, and Jennifer Garner's like, but we just have to finish it. She's like, okay. Okay, good. And then it's like, and this story in real time of telling must have taken hours. Hours.

42:00Jason Mantzoukas:I was thinking about that because it was like, but also it's like, she is, it's like, she's trying to rush them through. You think at a certain point they could, well, I don't know, they could have collapsed the story. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. By the way, why is the pencil factory shutting down? I mean, computers. Everyone. Who uses pencils anymore? But if there were pencils made out of leaves. Another thing I liked about this movie was The Pencil Factory. I loved seeing The Pencil Factory. That was shot beautifully. The first assembly line Pencil Factory thing was gorgeous. With the yellow paint going in.

42:34And the guy that... Wait, the DP is actually like a for real DP. I can't remember who it is, but I remember seeing...

42:38Jason Mantzoukas:Well, Peter Hedges is the director, and he directed... What did he do? He did Gilbert Grape. It's ironic Peter Hedges directed this, don't you think? Oh, yes.

42:49I do wonder, though, why they didn't... Oh, he's a writer-director.

42:52Jason Mantzoukas:He wrote and directed... He wrote that Katie Holmes movie, didn't he? About a boy. He wrote About a Boy. It's a good movie. Yep. No, no, no. He didn't write About a Boy, did he? Peter, yeah. Oh, he wrote the Space Time. The Nick Corby book. Right, right. Sorry, sorry. And then he wrote What's Eating Gilbert Grape, and now his first directorial thing was Dan in Real Life, Pieces of April. Pieces of April is the last thing I was thinking, yeah. But I will say that I did like that Joel Egerton's job was somehow quality control on the pencil line. Like, he would just find a ram pencil and look, this one didn't cut it.

43:21Jason Mantzoukas:This one goes in the chat. And then he's given the thankless task of firing people. How about the mug that says, I'm the boss on it? As soon as he delegates this boss job to somebody. I felt like there was enough cleverness or cues to people that were jokey, adult kind of stuff. Guys, this has really become a different episode. Yeah, this is funny. We're recommending it. I'm recommending it. Yeah, we're recommending it. I can't believe I'm recommending it. Well, I'm recommending it like, don't go out and buy the DVD or anything. No, no, no, no. But, you know, when it's eventually on TV. Yeah. I will say this.

44:00Like, I will, without a doubt, tell my sister to watch this with her daughters. Right, right. Like, this is a movie I would tell my sister, like, it's a cute movie. It's like, and it's good. I feel the same way about this movie I felt. And flabbergasted. I know. The same way I felt about Marley and Me. I loved Marley and Me. I didn't see it. I loved it. And I saw, I mean, I saw a tear-jerking movie. It's a dog movie. I have owned dogs and owned dogs. I guess I own dogs. You own and train them to fight. You have a very successful dog fighting ring. Marley Meade's a better movie, but this also, I mean, I didn't, I don't know.

44:39I didn't love this movie, but it wasn't a disaster. It was definitely not a disaster.

44:43Jason Mantzoukas:Our response to you, like, it was very interesting because when we saw it, we were again with, you know about five people in the theater laughing going crazy about it. It has to change your experience when you see it in that context with other comedians ready going and waiting to goof on it. Yeah. Excited to goof on it. But I did I mean there were parts of it I liked and I actually thought that there were certain moments they really landed like when the sisters at the hospital and Jen Garner shows up with Timothy Green and the sisters response is I didn't know I would have brought my kids. I didn't buy that one.

45:17I bought it. I bought that. I thought that was a good - Really? People would say that? She was like the ice queen of hell. Yeah, and it was actually very dark. Yeah. It's a very dark sentiment. But overall, to me, I think the big flaw of the movie is that they don't - They're not forced to learn any of those lessons by the time that those leaves are gone. I disagree. I disagree. I think that they learned those lessons the hard way by – And you're right. Actually, you are – I disagree, but I will also say part of it is the realization that he's leaving – because remember, they're fighting. They're fighting about that they're such bad parents.

45:59Right. And he says, stop fighting. Stop fighting. He's trying to tell them. That's when Timothy tries to tell them. I've got something to tell you. That's kind of weird. They cut away. Yeah. He doesn't tell them because they're fighting so much that they're bad parents. And they're saying, we're sorry. We're going to do better. We're sorry. We're going to do better. And then there's the town meeting scene. And then they realize he's going to die. And then I think it's like they have now had this journey. And again, they've been parents for what? Maybe six months? I don't know. I can't even believe again.

46:26I can't believe I'm trying to explain this movie. I think we're both. We're saying that there are certain flaws in the movie. As in all movies. Oh, yes. As in most movies. It's not a massive piece. It's not a great movie. But it's very watchable. But it won me over, man. I don't know. I cried a bunch at this movie. It's no Flight, which I thought was the biggest disaster of the year. Oh, Flight. What other points did you cry at? Flight's the movie I hate the most of the past many years.

46:50Jason Mantzoukas:Wow. I haven't seen it. Oh, I saw Flight. Jun just saw Flight the right way, which is she was awake for the first 20 minutes and then woke up for the last 10. It's a great piece of half-hour television. Oh, yeah. It's a good 30 minutes. If you watch the first 20 and the last 10, you're like, that was interesting. I gave the finger in the movie theater to the screen. about halfway fuck you I was so pissed well it's also so weird because that movie is all about like I feel like they were like blowing the lid off of like the life of an alcoholic it's like well we've seen that like I mean it didn't seem like it was a new thing I will say that the one thing I was disturbed about in this movie Timothy Green is I felt like and now I feel even nervous to express these things to you guys because you like it so much is that I feel like he was like cumming those leaves really every time he dropped one of those leaves oh he would make like a cum face.

47:42Yeah, he would close his eyes

47:43Jason Mantzoukas:and cum those leaves. Yeah, that was weird. I agree that was weird. He would be doing something that he would have like a moment of like, in my mind, it's like when a baby, when you realize, He was dropping his seeds. It's like when you realize a baby is taking a shit in its diaper because the baby's making a bunch of noise, making a bunch of noise, and then it's oddly quiet. Yeah. For a second, it just gets a weird look on its face. You're like, oh, that baby's shitting right now. I wish it was, was that movie The Peanut Butter Incident? Do you remember that movie? Oh, that was like a movie where these kids like put peanut butter on their body and it grew hair.

48:14I don't remember that. Wow. Could you see that on your TV? Like a pubic? So every strand. And I was expecting it to be a little, like we said earlier, a little more like about this morphing from a tree to a boy. I would have loved it

48:30Jason Mantzoukas:to be in a big tree in the front yard and they always would have lived with Timothy as a tree. Well that was interesting I guess. The last thing I'll say about it other than having leaves he did not have any other plant-like qualities. Right. Except that he got nourishment from the sun. And he liked old ladies and old ladies like trees. Yes. We didn't talk about when he takes the barrette out of Diane Weiss' hair. Oh, that was weird. Strokes her hair. Takes her glasses off. Takes her glasses off. She suddenly is getting fingered all of a sudden. She gets very flush. She gets very flush when he's drawing her portrait.

49:07That was definitely weirdly sexual. Yeah, that was a sexual part. Again, it seems to be coming from an original mind, an original sort of perspective on childhood and parenting. And for that, I salute it.

49:19Jason Mantzoukas:Well, obviously, we are divided for the first time ever on this show. Really? So you guys never get together? We have never had this debate. We've never had people, as you and I, Tim, I think to have, genuinely like the movie. Yeah, the only person I can think of is Jackie Clark liked the Jennifer Lopez movie, like the backup plan. And we did not like it. Right, right, right. Well, I couldn't have thought. Well, I think you've got to be honest. I mean, you can't just shock his name. Not weird. What's shocking to me is I fully expected us all to walk in and be like, what the fuck are we going to do?

49:56This was really good. I thought to myself, well, this might be interesting. I like that it came down this way.

50:03Jason Mantzoukas:What you expect is not always what you get. I will tell you this much, that there are some people who agree with the two of you. Uh-oh. And here are some five-star reviews on Amazon.

50:16Jason Mantzoukas:These are people who liked it so much, they gave the film five stars. This is from Kittykins. It's unusual for a movie to be released midweek, but this one opened on a Wednesday, so I was able to go on opening day. Wow. That is unusual. Yeah, I was quite pleased with this fantasy film. I didn't really understand what the brief language they were talking about in the review was, but during the second viewing, I think I heard the H word a couple of times. Oh. And one character says, oh, dear God. And I think the obnoxious sister character may have said God's name once very quietly. And I am very sensitive to such things.

50:51Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, boy. Oh, boy. I was not offended. My personal preference would be that if they would pray for this child. In the story, we assume it's magic. But we know what the true source of the miracle was. Really? Five stars. That's great. Black magic. Voldemort. This is the first time I've ever gotten a review like this that on Amazon. Five stars. I haven't watched it yet, but I'm looking forward to seeing it. Five stars. That's great. And then, um, and then five stars of anticipation. And then this one's weird because it's a very positive review, but it gets dark from Vicki Frey. She goes, this isn't a cutesy, silly bathroom joke infested Pixar romp.

51:37Jason Mantzoukas:Oh boy. And she goes, and the guy who plays Timothy is so cute. You'd swear your head's going to explode. But not in a sugary, sappy, Hallie Joel Osment sort of way where you hope a roving band of fluffy pink monkeys will reclaim him to their tribe and relieve you of his presence. What? No, I actually think that that's a really valid point and I salute that actor who played Timothy Green. Oh yeah, I hope we see a lot more from this kid. I really do because he played cute in a way that was really sustainable. Well, 38 % on Rotten Tomatoes, people are mixed. Roger Ebert, though, gave it a very enthusiastic three and a half stars.

52:13Jason Mantzoukas:My arch nemesis. And so there we go. That is that is the odd life of Timothy Green the odd the odd this is an odd episode it's an odd episode of how did this get made I love it and the sequel is the predictable death of Timothy Green I would like I would actually it ends up a pencil if all those leaves became human pencils they made it out of Timothy they definitely yeah yeah this pencil is Timothy Green um pencils are people so we talked about whether or not we would recommend it the movie that I would I'd actually recommend. Tim, you made a movie that I loved called The Comedy, which is on iTunes.

52:53Jason Mantzoukas:You should definitely check it out. It's really cool. Thank you, Paul. You're great in it. Thank you. It's really, really good. Is there a new season of Steve Bruhl coming up? Not to be announced. Okay. No. I'd like to plug my movie show. Yes. Oh, yes, of course. On Cinema at the Cinema. This is actually, if you've listened to the podcast now, it is on The Onion's new site. Was it? Well, it's Thing X. Thing X. Yes. thingx.tv or.com, whatever. And every week you review movies. Movies that are coming out this week. And my special guest, Greg Turkington. And we're pretty kind. You know, not like this show.

53:30We like just about everything.

53:34Jason Mantzoukas:If you have not listened to On Cinema, if you've not seen it, you have to go check that out. It is, again, another one of my favorite things. And now that it's in video form, it's really good. So that is on Thing X. dot com you can find that and uh jean you have anything you want to plug uh burning love airs now oh i don't know when we're releasing this now yeah okay we'll be there go to burning love dot com jason what do you want to plug nothing much season two of enlightened come on you're on the season two of enlightened sure why not i started watching the first season i was really liked it and then i kind of i wanted my uh my wife to watch it with me and so i'm gonna i'm gonna get back on board in that show i liked it it's pretty good it's pretty good are you in the first season as well?

54:15I'm in the first season, well, very small part. I'm not as much in the second season. I see, good. But I'm oddly on the billboard. Yes, you are.

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