The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure LIVE! (Classic)

1 Sep 2026 · 1 h 9 min · 31 chapters

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In short

A live podcast episode reviewing the 2012 film Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure, shot in Michigan (Farmington Hills and Holland). Hosts debate whether it’s a fun kids’ fever dream or nightmare fuel, focusing on its balloon quest, sensory/interactive ambitions, and unsettling moments (songs, costumes, and “love” messaging). They also discuss the movie’s poor box-office performance and production budget/marketing issues.

Guests (hosts)

Paul (main host) and co-hosts Jason Manzoukas and June Diane Rayfield, plus an audience member later identified as Tom Ugilove, an audio engineer who worked on the film.

Guest backgrounds

Manzoukas is a comedian/actor (known for improv-style humor). Rayfield is a comedian/performer. Tom Ugilove is an audio engineer credited as working on the movie.

Key claims

The film was held back due to technology needs for light/visual cues; it grossed about $445k in 160 theaters (lowest opening weekend over 2,000 theaters). Budget was about $60M with ~$30M marketing funds that froze. The hosts argue it teaches kids unsafe climbing and uses haunting, non-catchy songs. They claim ADR/voice work and puppet/character design look uncanny.

Notable examples

The “blow kisses to the balloons” scene; ladder-climbing songs; Milky Marvin’s Milkshake Manor and a milkshake “fish sucking contest”; appearances by Chaz Palminteri, Tony Braxton, Carrie Elwes, Christopher Lloyd, and Cloris Leachman (discussed as possibly her final role).

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Chapters

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Setting Up the Oogieloves Discussion

0:31 to 1:05

Hosts explain the context around the movie and its creation.

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Setting Up the Oogieloves Discussion

1:55 to 3:19

Hosts explain the context around the movie and its creation.

“We are live at the historic Fillmore Theater to talk about a historic film.”

Character and Plot Overview of Oogieloves

3:19 to 4:24

A breakdown of the film's characters and story premise.

“But if you've not seen Oogie Loves, and I can't really state how much you should see Oogie Loves in the Big Balloon Adventure, this is what you need to know.”

Introducing the Co-Hosts

4:24 to 6:28

Hosts introduce Jason Manzoukas and June Diane Raphael and share their initial reactions.

“Ooh, wow, this movie was a stone-cold nightmare.”

Reactions to the Movie's Quality

6:28 to 8:34

Hosts express their thoughts on the quality and experience of watching the film.

“I have a couple parameters for my work here tonight.”

Deep Dive into Oogieloves' Issues

8:34 to 11:23

Discussion on the film's problematic elements and character performances.

“And it was a film that had some record-breaking...”

Concluding Thoughts on the Film

11:23 to 14:00

Final reflections on the movie and its impact on the hosts and audience.

“I don't think it was that bad because we watch so much of this shit.”

Exploring the Oogie Loves Characters

14:00 to 16:43

Discussion of the characters Gooby, Tooby, and Zooby, including their names and potential connections to 'love'.

“Okay, can I just stop you for one second and say, who would have thought that in 11 years of doing this podcast, we would cover two characters named Gooby?”

Exploring the Oogie Loves Characters

17:12 to 18:09

Discussion of the characters Gooby, Tooby, and Zooby, including their names and potential connections to 'love'.

“You know those pieces in your closet that you find yourself wearing on repeat?”

Exploring the Oogie Loves Characters

18:14 to 19:20

Discussion of the characters Gooby, Tooby, and Zooby, including their names and potential connections to 'love'.

“You know, when I travel, I normally wait until the last possible minute to learn language, which is going to work, right?”
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Shloofy and the Oogie Loves

19:27 to 24:45

Discussion about the character Shloofy, his nature, and implications of the movie's themes.

“June, to answer your question, I don't know if everyone is loves.”

Critique of Oogie Loves', Themes and Safety Messages

24:45 to 28:01

Criticism of the film's themes, narratives, and potentially harmful messages to children.

“This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever done.”

Critique of Oogie Loves' Messaging

28:01 to 29:56

Explore the questionable safety messages and poor songwriting in Oogie Loves.

“It is, like, these are haunting narratives.”

The Oogie Loves as a Band

29:57 to 31:36

Discuss the concept of the Oogie Loves as a band and their missed opportunities.

“I think that she had to have written it.”

J. Edgar's Exclusion and the Adventure

31:37 to 35:06

Analyze J. Edgar's exclusion from the adventure and the implications behind it.

“But the Oogie Loves appear to be a band.”

Magic Balloons and Theories

35:07 to 35:39

Delve into the strange concept of magic balloons and their significance in the film.

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Milky Marvin's Milkshake Manor

36:42 to 42:00

Discuss the absurdity of Milky Marvin's establishment and its implications.

“How many theories do you have about this movie?”

Unpacking the Oogie Loves Dance Numbers

42:00 to 44:59

The hosts discuss the awkward choreography and execution in the film.

“That must mean that the sounds coming out of those Oogie Loves costumes are so atrocious that they couldn't cover it up.”

The Quest for Balloons: A Weak Narrative

45:00 to 47:28

A discussion about the film's flimsy plot centered around balloons.

“It's so hard because I find this sometimes with plays or any sort of a movie that tells you 10 things are going to happen.”

Character Analysis: Ruffy the Fish

47:29 to 49:28

Exploring the character of Ruffy and the film's other odd characters.

“Did you not know that they are Lola and Laro Sombrero?”

The Budget Shock of Oogie Loves

49:29 to 52:18

Revelation of the film's extravagant budget and its implications.

“I don't think it could have been 20 million.”

Casting Choices and Their Consequences

52:19 to 56:01

Discussion about the casting decisions and their impact on the film.

“Because it was financed by this man Wait a second What?”

Oogie Loves Discussion

56:01 to 56:48

The hosts discuss the idea of appearing in Oogie Loves and their reactions.

Reflections on Meow TV

56:49 to 58:45

The hosts reminisce about past projects including Meow TV and their aspirations.

“Well, Jason, you know that I was in Meow TV, television for cats by cats.”

Mixed Opinions on Oogie Loves

58:46 to 1:00:19

The hosts share their strong feelings and critiques about the Oogie Loves movie.

“And I know that Detroit was really whining about this movie.”

Behind the Scenes Insights

1:00:20 to 1:02:36

An audience member shares their experience working on Oogie Loves and the actors' perspectives.

“and then you'll come here and go, surprise.”

Thematic Analysis of the Film

1:02:37 to 1:04:41

Discussion on underlying themes in Oogie Loves and its implications.

“They said it was so loud that it ruined...”

Audience Participation and Memories

1:04:42 to 1:07:24

Audience members share their connections to Oogie Loves and their experiences with the franchise.

“I am Woozie, not an Oogie Love, a bed bug.”

Five-Star Reviews and Ratings

1:07:25 to 1:10:01

The hosts review audience feedback and ratings for Oogie Loves, including humorous anecdotes.

“Honestly, Paul, I'm chilled to the bone.”

Analyzing Oogieloves' Reception

1:10:01 to 1:11:40

Learn about the mixed reviews and ratings of 'Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure'.

“Yeah, it's hard to say that they're a discerning audience.”

Discussion on Movie Recommendations

1:11:41 to 1:13:08

Discover the hosts' thoughts on whether to recommend viewing the movie.

“And you guys thought we couldn't make a good show out of it.”
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Transcript

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1:10Jason Mantzoukas:Pull up your pants, wake up your pillow, and suck down your chocolate pizza beet milkshake because we are ready to adventurize. We saw the Oogie Loves in The Big Balloon Adventure, so you know what that means.

1:54Now it's done!

2:22Jason Mantzoukas:Hello, people of Earth! and hello people of Detroit!

2:31Jason Mantzoukas:We are live at the historic Fillmore Theater to talk about a historic film. Oogie Loves. Why did we choose Oogie Loves for Detroit? The answer is simple. Because you made it! This was shot in Farmington Hills.

2:56Jason Mantzoukas:You did this to us, Detroit. You can't ship this shit out to Hollywood and expect us not to bring it back. You brought this on yourselves. So when Detroit asks why, we say because you. It's like that drug commercial. I learned it by watching you, Dad. I learned it by watching you. I also don't want to leave out Holland. It was also shot in Holland, right? Oh, yeah. But if you've not seen Oogie Loves, and I can't really state how much you should see Oogie Loves in the Big Balloon Adventure, this is what you need to know. It's about three characters that are different colors, and they're on an adventure to find a handful of balloons for their pillows?

3:49Jason Mantzoukas:Birthday party? I don't even know if it's their pillow. It's a pillow. who's on a weird sleep cycle. So anyway, we will break it all down. If it doesn't make sense, it really is the, it's like if Teletubbies decided to make Avatar. I don't know. It's a weird, it's like they overshot what they could have done and did do, but it's got great guest stars. We're talking about Chaz Palminteri, Tony Braxton, Carrie Elwes, and so many more. But to break this movie down properly, we must introduce my co-host. Please welcome to the stage, Mr. Jason Manzoukas!

4:37What's up, jerks? How we doing, Detroit? That's what I'm talking about. Ooh, wow, this movie was a stone-cold nightmare. Now, Jason, I might have to disagree with you. You know what this is? This is, and I'll allow it because I'm going to say it. This is my Jacob's Ladder scenario. I died in Houston. This is my nightmare. These are the final firings of the synapses of my mind, creating this fever dream before us. Honest to God, I hated it

5:25Jason Mantzoukas:These are amazing characters And it's the longest hour and 28 minutes You'll ever have in your life Is that all it is? It took me It was about a four hour car ride To get from Indianapolis to Detroit And it took me about four hours and 45 minutes To watch this movie And you watched while driving? While I was driving on the road, yes I watched part of this movie In the shower because I was like, I need to get this filth off me. Oh my gosh, if only we could see it in the theater. But you know what? There's someone who enjoyed this movie, I think as much as me, because I watched her acting out some of the moments from the film as she watched it.

6:11Jason Mantzoukas:Please welcome my other co-host, the lovely June Diane Rayfield.

6:26Jason Mantzoukas:Welcome, June. Hi, Paul. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you so much for asking. June. I want... I have a couple parameters for my work here tonight. I want that down. I don't want any... I don't want anyone to have to look at that. And we can't play clips, Paul. We can't. This is the only time that the audience revolted when I asked them... And Jason and I were backstage screaming, don't play it. This is the same. How? Who? Who would have thought that we would find ourselves in a position? Clip one. What? No. Play it. Play it. Bring it on. Clip one. I will riot. Here it is. Sit back and relax. No.

7:19Jason Mantzoukas:It's too early. No! Everybody, get out of your seats! Act on! Get out of your seats!

7:31Jason Mantzoukas:Get out of your seats and let's dance along!

7:39This is our last night on Earth! The world is over! Okay. Paul, seriously, that's it.

7:49Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. This is... That's it. I feel like this movie is creating Manchurian candidate children. I feel like this is instilling post-hypnotic suggestion in kids. This movie opens up with a prologue to tell you how to act in this movie. And this movie, at multiple points, is telling children, get up, be loud, get out of your seats. And I can't think of a worse way to experience anything than giving children the freedom to run in a theater and scream and shout. Well, this was not released in theaters. Oh, it was. What? What year was this? I'm about to be shocked. No. It came out in 2012. Oh, okay. It was on the shelf for four years.

8:40Jason Mantzoukas:And it was a film that had some record-breaking... I wish it had stayed on the shelf. Keep it on the shelf. Well, the film did have some record-breaking stats. Number one, it's the lowest opening weekend gross for a film playing over 2 ,000 theaters. It only grossed$445 ,000 in 160 theaters, and the previous record holder was Galgo. I think that's pretty good. I do. Those are respectable numbers for this. Well, the reason why it was held on the shelf was because the producer felt he did not get the technology to the point. He wanted the lights to go off in different ways. He wanted visual cues.

9:24Jason Mantzoukas:He wanted this to be a sensory experience for the audience. Yes, creating like a squadron of child soldiers who can be activated simply by saying, One, two, one, two, three. Wendy, window, what do you see? One, two, one, two, three Wendy, please show me I think we need to And then it's just murder Murder, murder, murder, murder I think what this movie did for me Was open my mind and my eyes to How great puppets can be Because these puppets look glassy-eyed and sleepy They look like murder puppets And their mouths really didn't move No in a way that at this point, puppet mouths, we've seen them move.

10:16Puppet mouths. By 2012. Like if you told me this was in 1994, I'd be like, okay, cool, they did a great job. 2012 or whatever, four years earlier, still, they can make the mouths move.

10:27Jason Mantzoukas:The mouth can go up and down. I will say that there is one weird moment, and I don't have this clip. That's it. Well, look, I'm going to be honest. There's one weird, you're right though, there's one weird moment and one million terrifying moments. Well, no, Jason, Paul, be honest about how I want you to be honest. We're in Detroit. I want you to be honest about how you felt about the movie. I didn't mind it. And why didn't I mind it? Someone's walking out. I disagree. Someone's walking out. There was literally someone who tweeted at me. Someone tweeted at me, I sold my ticket because of this trash.

11:03Jason Mantzoukas:And I'm like, you're not coming to the movie, dude. And also, chill out. But... And you know what? But you need to know that I'm boycotting. You're boycotting the show. I walked into the green room today and Paul said, I thought it was pretty good. Let me tell you why I think that. I don't know you. Let me tell you why I think that. I don't think it was that bad because we watch so much of this shit. Okay, so I will say we definitely have a higher tolerance. Yes. And I think probably all the parents in the audience have a higher tolerance for children. This is for children. for children's programming I do believe it's for children so I'm like you know for every one bluey there's like 10 ,000 pieces of shit absolutely but even within that Paul when you were watching the movie in the car you stopped it at one point and turned to me and said it's not that bad it's not that bad I'm immune to it yeah and I was like really because I was very concerned about this I meanwhile was sobbing in the fetal position in the shower, watching it like, please let this be over.

12:16But is this Cloris Leachman's final role? R.I.P. a legend. And by the way, that's my biggest question, is how in God's name did they get people to leave their homes and drive to the set? Money. The amount of money. How much could they possibly be paying? Tony Braxton?

12:38Jason Mantzoukas:Well, by the way, Tony Braxton's straight up great. I liked her number. I loved her number. Everybody who comes and plays in this movie, and I want to get into Christopher Lloyd. I'll put him on the side. But everybody who came, like, really brought it. Like, are some things potentially racist? Yeah, sure. Are there some weird choices? Yeah, they are. I mean, they are racist. This is a kid's movie that has real racist problems in it. Yeah. This is a problematic movie. I mean, but when you watch Chaz Palminteri, you're like, oh, he took this for the money. No, he took it for a chance to do a full on character.

13:16Jason Mantzoukas:Like he is committed. He was like, you want me to sing? I'll sing. I'll sing into a fake ice cream cone. No problem. You got it. So you're telling me that before this movie, so they're making, they're about to make this movie and there's no original property. There's no, like, Oogie Loves cartoon. Well, the idea is that this gentleman brought a lot of big shows to the States. Teletubbies. He's made millions on bringing other shows, like Thomas the Train and this here. And he's like, well, hey, I'm going to invent my own, and I'm going to shoot it in my hometown, Michigan. The town of Michigan?

13:54Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I mean, I'm just saying. It's in a few different spots in Michigan. Okay, wait, here's my main question about the Oogie Loves. Gooby, Tooby, and Zooby. Okay, can I just stop you for one second and say, who would have thought that in 11 years of doing this podcast, we would cover two characters named Gooby? Really wild. Really wild. I never thought I'd say the word again. I have proudly never said it until just now, since the last time. But here's my question. Is their last name Love? Well... Because sometimes he's called... When he's radioed by the vacuum cleaner... J. Edgar? J. Edgar? J.

14:41Jason Mantzoukas:Edgar. Hoover? J. Edgar Hoover? The vacuum cleaner? Yes, when he's radioed... Another. Kids? That's a joke kids will love. They're going to die. When kids... Once that connects, they're going to go crazy. They're going to be like, holy shit, this vacuum cleaner's a Hoover. J. Edgar Hoover? Love it. Eight-year-olds are like... As a parent, this is the kind of two-tiered content I'm looking for. Stuff for me, stuff for the kids. If I told you that this movie was made to summon a demon, would you believe me? Jason, I know you don't, I know you're resisting talking about the actual movie. I can feel it from you.

15:28I don't want to. I can feel it. I know you don't want to get into the nitty gritty, but I must ask. Let's go to the nit and the grit. They are, okay, so when J. Edgar calls on the walkie talkie Gooby, he calls him Gooby Love. Right.

15:48Jason Mantzoukas:I have a question about this. Right, but then they are called as a collective, the Oogie Loves. But the airport is also a love airport. It's called Loveville. So they live in Loveville. Oh, wow. So they have a monopoly over most of the industry. Of love. So their last name is Love. Is it, though? Is everybody's last name Love? Oh, no, J. Edgar is Hoover, I assume. I mean, I don't know. You can't assume that. You know what? It could be J. Edgar Love. We can't assume anything. I do believe that there's... We never understand Shluffy's last name. So you believe their last names are Loves? I don't believe anything.

16:27Jason Mantzoukas:What I was just saying was that the airport also has love in its title, and then the airplane also had love in its title. I think that love is just all around us, and that's really what the film is celebrating.

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19:51Tootie-Oogie-Love?

19:52Jason Mantzoukas:Here's my theory. I think all their last names are Oogie, and then the creatures are loves. So, like, we're humans. They're loves. So it is Gooby-Oogie, Zuzy-Oogie, and Toofie-Oogie, and they are loved. Don't make direct eye contact with me while you're saying that. Now, if they were lobsters, if they were lobsters, they would be gooby-ooby lobster. Oh, no. I don't like it anymore. There's like a, there's like a, it's like disgusting. There's something disgusting about this. There is, and I'm not going to lie, this movie, there's been a couple of movies we've watched that have made me feel nauseous.

20:35And this is one of them where I was like, I feel a little sick.

20:40Jason Mantzoukas:Were you uncomfortable with clip four, Beth? Clip four! If this is the kid's pants falling down, I'm going to flip out. Jason, you and I are in complete sync. Were you uncomfortable, June, when a young man dropped his pants? I knew it!

20:59I wish I could get dressed like this. Tooth me. I think you need a belt for those pants, Toothy. I don't like belts.

21:10Okay, but every time your pants fall down, we're gonna say, Goofy Toofy, pick up your pants! Wait, is his name Goofy Toofy? Goofy Toofy, pick up your pants! Goofy Toofy? He's being goofy!

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21:27Jason Mantzoukas:He's like, hee hee hee hee hee! By the way, he's Toofy! He's Toofy, he's Goofy! He's Goofy, not Goofy! So if Gooby's pants fall down, they would say, Goofy, Gooby, pull up your pants. He's just being goofy. Here's the thing. Wow. You would think in a movie where a character's pants fall down, and I counted it four times, that at the end, he would say... I think that you're on a watch list now. At the end, you might say, you know what, guys? I learned my lesson. I'm always going to wear a belt. But no, he never learns a lesson. And he's okay with showing them Oogie love balls. Paul, don't ever say that again.

22:11Jason Mantzoukas:I am. And if you want to see sleepy eyes, you got to see some Oogie balls. Paul, please cut that part. Just cut it. Just cut this whole episode. Cut the whole episode. Cut the whole episode. So I guess what I come back to, if we could pull out for a second from all of the characters, the world, everything, if we're just looking at the basic story, they are trying to get five different balloons that have flown away. Sentient balloons. Well, we'll talk about that in a second. But they're trying to get these balloons for this pillow who has to be woken up for his own party. And when he is, it honestly looks like he wants to immediately go back to sleep.

23:00Jason Mantzoukas:Shufi is ill. Shloofy presents as someone who is in hospice A thousand percent You think Shloofy is an end of life? You think Shloofy is an end of life care? If Shloofy was If this was honestly like hospice care Because God bless all hospice workers Hospice care is amazing If this is hospice care Then I totally understand the movie So does that make the Does that make the Oogie loves and J. Edgar death doulas that they are helping shepherd Shloofy from this mortal coil to the next. Shloofy also looks so much like a pillow that J would fuck on Big Mouth that I found it very upsetting. Amazing. I do want to talk about Shloofy.

23:55When Shloofy does get all of these surprise gifts and all of his presents, Shloofy does not have much of a reaction Also Shloofy can't walk I believe Shloofy is I believe Shloofy is Maybe I'm wrong I believe Shloofy is a baby What? Oh I think the Oogie loves her kids And Shloofy is like Not a baby Is like a baby Is like That's why the baby is sleeping all the time

24:22Jason Mantzoukas:Well they say the word Sleep cycle Shloofy's sleep cycle is going on right now So that means that Shloofy is not up when Gooby, Toofy, and Zuzi are up. Right? Jesus Christ. We are adults. No, I know. We're adults. This is the most embarrassing thing I've ever done. Ever. Child Protective Services are here now. I mean, this movie is like Jules Verne. It's seeing the future. This, what the Oogie loves live in Is like a tiny house Everything rolls out, the table goes back away Now listen, I did like the functionality Of some of the Oh listen, you're I would fucking kill To live in a teapot in a tree Yeah Fuck yeah with Cloris Leachman There are these weird moments where like Clearly Cloris Leachman's like Yeah, I'm here for whatever you paid me But I'm sitting down during the dance She shares She's sitting.

25:26She shares no, maybe I missed a wide. She is in her own shot the entire time. She doesn't share a screen with any of the Oogie Loves.

25:36Jason Mantzoukas:And Christopher Lloyd does not speak until one line that they replay again in the credits. He gets it. He's like, I'm not doing that. I'll just play the bongos as speech. I talk through bongos. And honestly, it was a very compelling performance. I was really captivated by him. I thought he was great. I love, and if there was like set decoration, I would love to get that three like Christopher Lloyd trio behind him. It was like a standee of like three versions of Christopher Lloyd. One had a mustache. The other one was like a normal guy. Like he was a part of a band. I was in such a fugue state watching this.

26:13I don't remember that. My mind is actively trying to wipe this movie from its memory. Don't worry about it. Please don't.

26:21Jason Mantzoukas:Please don't. Okay. No, go ahead. No, we don't have it. I thought we did. Good. I don't have it. Thank God. Oh, we do. I just... Damn it! Wow, the stares I'm getting from you two. There it is. There is the... The sombrero is powered by dancing. We will all need to help. Let all please. A tune for our travels. We shall be there in no time. That was the tune? It's very important that we move in unison. I mean, that kid... That... That... Is that Gooby? Is the green one Gooby? I don't know. I think that's two feet. Oh, God. Gooby is the green one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:04Jason Mantzoukas:All right, stop it. So, are we cool with this? No. Is this what we think is appropriate? No, this is not okay. The only thing I can say about how inappropriate it is, is by picking Jamie Presley, you pick someone so clearly not it, like aggressively not it, that I'm like, does that make it better in a way? Like, well, clearly you can't even make, you can't even assume it. Like she is not. Listen. Oh, this is, I think, did I die? Like, honestly, like this was, this is nuts level stuff and it's for kids. Well, the big problem with this movie is Every one of their adventures involves them getting into a very high, precarious spot They always are climbing fucking ladders Getting on the top of planes Like, most kids' movies teach safety This movie is like, yeah, climb up to the top of the truck Yeah, jump on the back of the airplane Not only is that the thing But they're teaching kids to do these things Like, there's a song about how to climb a ladder.

28:21Lift your arms and lift your legs. To climb to the top, it's square. Also, these songs are dog shit. These aren't catchy. These aren't fun. It is, like, these are haunting narratives. These are nightmare fuel. This is awful. Shame on all of us. By simply helping this movie, by downloading it and rating it twice. I know, that's what I'm worried about. What we've done to the algorithms, you know?

28:55Jason Mantzoukas:Don't worry about the algorithm because there are already two sequels to it. What? Don't make us do them. Detroit, don't make us do them. No, Jason, we're not going to do them. No, Detroit's going to demand it. You and I have to stand together. Detroit's going to demand it. No, they're not. They clearly love it. They loved it. If we did this show in Farmington Hills, they would be going nuts. The amount of money it brought to Farmington. But I do think, like, they do talk to the ladder in a weird way. They say, ladder, ladder, take my dare. What's the dare? To hold me my full weight on it? Is it like I dare to climb you?

29:40I dare to challenge gravity? I don't know. I don't know. And you know what that highlights? These are bad songs. Once again, these are just, it's like someone wrote songs using Boggle. It's true. It's like Toni Braxton's number. Now I love seeing Toni Braxton. And I loved her number.

30:01Jason Mantzoukas:Did she write it? I think that she had to have written it. They must have given her a dog shit song. I think she must have done a pass. But the actual words of that song are absolutely insane. Do you remember her name? And I, well, the song, the premise of the song is like, let's teach kids how to be sick. But it's, she just seems to have an allergy. Also, put a mask on. Put a mask on and stay home if you feel that way. But do you remember any lyrics to it? It was like, if you gotta cough, cough, cough. If you gotta sneeze, I chew. Something like that. It sounds so good. I would love to hear it clip six.

30:38Oh, how did you not see that coming? You're playing right into his band I know When you're sick In bed With a nasty flu You gotta pinch your nose and go

31:02Let love Clear your throat Are we gonna watch this whole song? Yeah, Beck I just want to remind Beth. I was waiting to see. Beth, who's running our show and running our clips. Like, we all pay your salary, Beth. Everybody up here. Like, I feel like we need to do a mental health check on everybody. Beth is doing the best. The best job anyone's ever done. This highlights something that I would like to talk about, which is this. The Oogie Loves, they're on this mission, as we've talked about, to collect the five missing golden balloons in order to celebrate Shloofy's birthday. Who is napping, of course.

31:39We all know. But the Oogie Loves appear to be a band. Why isn't the movie about their band? Why aren't they a band on an adventure? You know, Jason, I think you're absolutely right. I didn't know they were a band, by the way, but now I'm realizing. That's how the movie opens. I forgot. The best part is the movie opens and they're like, we're the Oogie Loves. Check out this. When we do this, get up. And then they go to their instruments and they're like, we're the Oogie Loves. They don't play the instruments. Why have them be a band? So the band's name is the Oogie Loves.

32:16Jason Mantzoukas:I don't know. Oh, yes, you're right, June. Don't look at me, June. I don't know. I don't have answers. I don't want to be here anymore. I will say that. I want to go to bed. They give these characters, they give these Oogies a lot of mechanical actions. Ride a bike, play a piano, play a bass guitar. They can't do any of them. like them on the bikes i got i was like just send the character that has wheels like they're why not lean into what they can do why not if you're like okay these are the costumes and the costumes look eerily like teletubbies so this guy must have some familiarity with what teletubbies he brought that's what i'm saying so why not lean into these you you know what this is do stuff that these these form factors can do.

33:04Well, I also thought it was very strange and rather cruel of the Oogie Loves to force J. Edgar to stay home and not come on the adventure. And the excuse they gave him was so anemic. They were just like, yeah, you're better off staying here with Wendy. Well, here's the thing that I'm getting. Why did you want him to go? I agree with you, but J. Edgar is thrilled because J. Edgar is horny for Wendy. I know. Jay Edgar is like Wait, Wendy Window? Okay Okay, I'm into Wendy Jay Edgar is so He's like, I want to empty my bag In this window I do want to ask Too much?

33:54The bag is full Of dirt Dirty Jay Edgar collecting dirt on everyone. I guess it was just like... J. Edgar collecting dirt. That's why he's a VEC?

34:12It seemed like their motivation was just that they didn't want them. They didn't want him there. I know.

34:18Jason Mantzoukas:I think what they were like, it was like, you fucked this up for us. You lost the balloons. You are not allowed to come on our big balloon adventure. And here's the thing. They're not big balloons I would say they're average If not small balloons Average to small I would say they're ordinary balloons By the way, those balloons Are going to lose their helium Very quickly They're magic, I believe Well, no, no One seems magic Because they go Oh my gosh, you talked to me And then when the fish wins The milkshake sucking contest Okay Okay I'm going to stop you Right there, Paul What's up? Because you Just said the sentence When the fish wins the milkshake sucking contest.

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36:45Okay, wait, but genuine question. What makes those balloons magic?

36:50Jason Mantzoukas:They have faces and talk at the end. They were magic. This is my theory, okay? How many theories do you have about this movie? The most notes I've ever taken. This book is full. The balloons didn't want to be there. Because the balloons seemed to have their own... Like, they call us back, do whatever. The balloons are like, I don't want to celebrate shuffy. Shuffly. Shoofy. Shoofy. I feel like those balloons are trying to get away Well it's just so weird That they're all shocked that the balloons Talk it's like The vacuum talks too In the window The window doesn't just Everything talks The window can see anything The window is God You think Wendy is a god She can see and know everything Well, I don't know how the technology works because she also has like a FaceTime activation.

37:51Jason Mantzoukas:Because at the end, all the characters come back and do a direct-to-camera wishing, schluffy, happy birthday. Oh, thank God I did not see that. You didn't see that? I don't wait. What is it? That's the final moment, Jason. Oh, wait. Oh, no, no. At the birthday party. Oh, sorry. I thought you meant during like a credit. No, during the credit sequence, they just take the greatest moments of these characters and replay them. But what I think I was really surprised about Was there are humans in this world So like the milkshake shop is full of humans Oh I'm sorry, do you mean Milky Marvin's Milkshake Manor?

38:26Which is absolutely a strip club in Detroit Tell me that's not a strip club I can go to after this show Oh you guys, you gotta go see how did this get made at the film room And then go to Milky Marvin's Milkshake Manor? and fucking explode dust all over a mirror?

38:46Jason Mantzoukas:Can we take a look at some of the posters from Milky Marvin's Milkshake Manor? Disgusting. Milky Marvin obviously has a bunch of cow paraphernalia. I do want to get into the cow. We're going to show some of the movie posters. We have some pictures of it, but look at this. This is The Sound of Music. I believe that that's breakfast, or maybe it's something at Tiffany's. Movie at Tiffany's? I don't know. And the other one is, what is that a parody of? The seven-year hoof. Oh, the seven-year itch. Oof, rough. And are we to believe that in Milky Marvin's milkshake manner, Milky Marvin is the host, but a cow does all the cooking?

39:31I can't imagine that is. Well, Milky Marvin is a fascinating character. Go on. Because Milky Marvin, in an effort to, like, I guess drum up business or just to keep customers loyal, has staged a giveaway in which he's putting on a milkshake drinking contest. And the first person or fish sucking contest, the first person or animal who sucks the milkshake down quickest wins. By the way, Nada doesn't get, you know, dinner on the house, doesn't get their next meal free, doesn't get another milkshake. They get one of the, a balloon that got caught in his weather vane? So I was like back to, when I heard that, I was like, wait, so Milky Marvin found a stray balloon and then decided, like, I know.

40:32Jason Mantzoukas:He's like the P.T. Barnum of his age American ingenuity Just like Henry T. Ford That is a way that this country goes forward I find a balloon, I use a balloon I created a panic in my store for this balloon Milky Marvin, also a Nazi sympathizer Well And that's what's so interesting about Milky Marvin too Because for all he noticed It's not a magic balloon No He's a gold balloon. He sees trash. He sees detritus in his place and is like, I'll build a contest around this. American ingenuity at its finest. Yeah, he builds a whole campaign around it. And he's like, the cow, you get back there and you make these fucking disgusting milkshakes.

41:22I wish there was a theme. And I'm also like, I don't think those people were even paying for those milkshakes. So it's like he's put out the money to make all these milkshakes to then just give away a balloon. Do you think Chaz Palminteri was like, you know what? Christopher Walken gets to sing and dance in all these things. Why can't I sing and dance? And they were like, hey, Chaz, you want to sing a song with this fucking bunch of idiots and a cow making milkshakes? And he's like, I'm in.

41:53Jason Mantzoukas:You know, we said earlier on that everybody's pretty much ADR'd in this movie. They recorded their voice afterwards. That must mean that the sounds coming out of those Oogie Loves costumes are so atrocious that they couldn't cover it up. Oh, absolutely. Oh, yeah. Category. And I wonder if the voices of the Oogie Loves are even the voices of the actors in the suit. They are not. Oh, okay, there you go. But I will say that the dancing from the humans in this are like when I try to learn a choreographed dance. It looks so, it's like, they are doing the actions, but without any rhythm and with an insecurity that is so large.

42:34Jason Mantzoukas:Like, it made me feel uncomfortable watching it. Like, I know it wasn't ready. You know what, Paul? It wasn't ready, but in some ways it made me feel more comfortable because I was like, okay, not a lot of rehearsal went into this. It's better in a way. I like that. I take that on. I take that. But now, they did say this is going to be the most amazing movie ever. You guys disagree with that? In the beginning, they did call it. They call their shot. They call their shot early and then fail immediately. Because, and I think the reason why you two are reacting like this is because... Negatively?

43:05Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Truthfully? Truthfully. The only way that people should react? Well, I think you're reacting like this because it's kind of... Imagine a world in which your kids became obsessed with this movie. And they were like, can we watch Yuki Loves? Can we watch Yuki Loves? Can we watch Yuki Loves? can you imagine this is the question I was going to ask you do you think you're reacting negatively to the movie because the characters kind of live in that uncanny valley it's like when they look so realistic but also like Polar Express yeah you think this is the Zemeckis did Robert Zemeckis make this movie but I do believe I do believe this whole movie like the way that they sold all these actors is like this is going to be the next big thing so everyone did believe oh I need to bring my A game this is not a shitty thing this is going to be my next audience Tony Braxton was like I'll come, she looks great Tony Braxton looks the best lit the best, sings the best and I do believe that because children's television is so bad that no one on set could be like what did I get myself into everyone was like yeah it could work it could work if it was a movie I mean, I'm doing all the work for the movie.

44:20If it was a movie about the Oogie Loves, a band, and they had a band trajectory, they were going to perform in a concert or whatever, and then they come across Cloris Leachman or Tony Braxton, and they become singers with the band, and all that, there would be something to that that would be interesting to me. The idea that they need to, the quest is, the call to adventure for these characters is just missing balloons. for a sleepy cushions birthday party. This is not enough to get Frodo out of the Shire. And it's so hard because... Shut up, nerds. It's so hard because I find this sometimes with plays or any sort of a movie that tells you 10 things are going to happen.

45:07And even if you're enjoying the movie, when you know it's number three, you're like, okay, get to four and then five and then, okay. So even when you're enjoying it, you can't help but to think through how long the rest of it's going to be. With this, I kept on thinking to myself, how many balloons? How many balloons?

45:29Jason Mantzoukas:I thought there were five. I thought there were four. Okay, how many were there? After, well, at balloon, when the fourth balloon was recovered, I, we still had like a half an hour, 36 minutes left. And I was like, oh my God, there's more. There's more balloons. When they blew kisses to the balloons, and that's the way that they. I did not like this. I don't think we should be encouraging children to just blow kisses at anybody or anything. Well, you know, it was interesting. When I'm thinking back on that scene, clip nine, when I'm thinking about. No. Clip nine. When I'm thinking about the blowing kisses to the balloons, it is a weird way.

46:09Jason Mantzoukas:It's like to get something you want, you must kiss it. It's love. Don't like that. Help us blow kisses to bring the balloons home. We really need your help. Blow as many kisses as you can. A room full of children blowing kisses at the screen because love conquers all. We have barely talked about this fish. We have barely talked about... Ruffy? The fish? Ruffy? Maybe my favorite character in the movie? The fish is great. Maybe, maybe, maybe the only person in there, the only sentient entity in the movie that's like, get me the fuck out of here. Yeah. Ruffy knew what movie Ruffy was in. Ruffy is a complex character This is the first time I'm learning His name is Ruffy That was a joke in the beginning I just keep writing fish Ruffy is Is kind of been through it Kind of been through the ringer Kind of like Carrie Elwes' The bubble guy?

47:19Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, the bubble guy is like Squawking bird Who is gassy Lactose intolerant And has cataracts Ruffy also seems like an elder state Again, another end of life story For the parrot For the parrot that is like I'm transitioning into death And they tell the parrot Just if you tried a little harder You wouldn't have anything Like if you told somebody with cataracts Just pretend that you can see And you can The fish is with them for the whole adventure And is like pissed off And then Jamie Presley stone cold frenches the fish and everybody gets horny and christopher lloyd is like i'm looking at you fish you kissing my lady daughter question mark what is their deal what is their deal oh thank god well june what did you think because i thought they were husband and wife but now that you say because i thought that's weird but if you say daughter i thought that they were just musical partners.

48:24They share the same last name. Oh, I didn't realize that. Oh, I'm sorry. Did you not know that they are Lola and Laro Sombrero? That's their character names! Representation Matters? Ay-ay-ay? Can I say that?

48:48Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, I like the sexual tension throughout the film. That's, by the way, six months from now, that is a pull quote on the box of this movie. I thought Wendy, just to go back to Wendy for a second, I thought that Wendy had like kind of a dom personality, like a dominatrix personality over the vacuum cleaner. Over Jay Edgar? Yeah. Well, Jay Edgar, as we know, is a stone-cold perv. and windy when everyone knows it's windy everybody knows it's windy really young crowd young crowd no no no don't humor me let the youngsters find it for themselves would you be surprised yes yes and i know that you often hate this when i ask you to guess but i want to ask you to guess and if audience if you know don't yell it out because i want to really get the real reaction you think detroit's not going to yell if they can i know just for a second these fucking maniacs yeah how they're going to marvin's milky milkshake manor soon how much do you think this movie cost okay just and no no no no i just said no no you you all just you just enjoy this what do you not understand detroit about shut the fuck up give them a moment give them a moment to just I don't think it could have been 20 million.

50:19I don't think it could have been 20 million. It could be. You think so? It could be. When you said Holland, that made me think like, oh, wait a minute here. Holland here. Oh, Holland here. Here. Oh.

50:34Jason Mantzoukas:Holland here in Michigan.

50:40There's a Holland, Michigan?

50:44It's the other side of the state Nope Oh wow Cause Jason and I were talking about it backstage We were like Holland? Yeah I was like I'm trying to imagine someone coming to me With a movie offer and being like And I was like Maybe some of those big Like fields were in Holland It didn't make any sense And I was like Maybe they did like Two days in Holland But to also fly the whole crew to Holland And in my mind In my mind I was like If they told me I could go to Holland, maybe I'd be in this movie. That's what I was thinking. Like, maybe they got Cloris Leachman by promising, you know, first class ticket to Holland.

51:20Holland, Michigan. Okay.

51:24Jason Mantzoukas:All right. Wow. I was really turned around as well. That changes my opinion. That changes quite a bit. It can't be$20 million. I'm going to say 7 million. Jason. I still think that's high. That is high, but only because I feel like we're being led down the garden path, I'm going to say 40 million dollars. And the answer is 60 million dollars.

52:03Jason Mantzoukas:$60 million No! No! Give us healthcare! $60 million No! No! And it is technically an independent film No it's not! Because it was financed by this man Wait a second What? Hold on, hold on If I break this chair, I'll pay for it This man, Matthew Diamond? No, that's just the director The person behind it, the producer, Ken Visselman The creator of the Ooby Love Okay, I want to say something about Ken Visselman Because I saw in the very beginning It said a Ken Visselman picture Ken Visselman film And the font looked like the Disney font Did you notice that, Paul? I did notice that a little bit And I was like, who's this guy?

53:01Jason Mantzoukas:So he has made his money because he brought these other shows here to the States. But I want to read this one little thing here about this. I'm so stunned. I don't know if I can move on. I mean, when I said 40, I was like, ha, ha, ha. Look at me making the best joke of the night. I was like, that's good. That's good. I'm stunned And I'm sad I will say this All that money What that money could do I think each one of those actors got a million dollars each Got a million dollars? In my mind, that's where the money went If each one of those actors got a million dollars each Come for one day for a million dollars I would have done it in a heartbeat The Game of Thrones pilot Costs 20 million dollars This is two Game of Thrones Think about that for a second No, I don't Three, three I said 40, it was 60 Sorry I know how it works Hey, Detroit Chill out Take it easy I'm really shocked Now, I will tell you Some other little details about it Because, you know, obviously Ken believes that the movie failed Only because people didn't know it was in theaters Poor marketing But part of that marketing was because he had$30 million in marketing funds ready to help roll out the movie, but that account froze just weeks before the scheduled release.

54:30Jason Mantzoukas:Why? Wait, so$30 million on top of$60 million? I think all in. All in$60 million. There's a lot of fuzzy numbers here. So there's$60 million. So$30 million in P &A. $20 to$30, potentially, but$60 was all in. $60 was allocated for production and P &A for this movie. Yes. That's ludicrous Chris Bridges. And I will tell you one other thing about it, which is really interesting. Christopher Lloyd was up and considered for the part of the bubble man. But they said, you know what? No. You are the sombrero man. Like he lost a part, was brought in, and they thought better of it. Now, my assumption is, well, did they try him out in that?

55:18Maybe he couldn't do the song?

55:19Jason Mantzoukas:He was considered. He was considered. There's not much info on this movie, but that I know. I'm sorry. If they made any actor audition to be in this, I agree. It should be put in jail. And also, Christopher Lloyd should be grateful because, with all due respect, I think Cary Elwes is in the bubble truck with his parrot. Like, I'd rather be Christopher Lloyd playing the bongos in the background, you know? Yeah, and I will say this. I thought he did a great job. Christopher Lloyd? I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think everyone did a great job You can't go wrong with Christopher Lloyd I will say this Give him that million dollars Would you take a million dollars I'm not kidding They say hey We're doing Oogie Loves How many Where are they now?

56:04Four? Four They're doing Oogie Loves four We heard the podcast We get it You guys talked about Oogie Loves We want you to be in Oogie Loves It's one million dollars each You have to sing a song Of course Yeah no one would see it Of course

56:19Jason Mantzoukas:He's in too The front row is in The front row is also going to be up Everyone would take a million dollars No one's watching it I would say no I would say no So here's the deal Offer me that million dollars Now I'll say this I think the reason again We're going to go talk to the audience Can you imagine if you were in Imagine Truthfully think about it The distance between where we are now and us being in Holland, Michigan, shooting Oogie Loves 4. Well, Jason, you know that I was in Meow TV, television for cats by cats. Paul, not only do I know that you were in Meow TV, television for cats by cats, my group also tried to get that job and didn't get it.

57:11We did not get the job to make a TV show for cats that are left at home alone. My comedy group blew the pitch for Cat TV.

57:26Jason Mantzoukas:Meow TV, Meow TV. What? I think what I love about this movie is... That's so long ago. Oh, so long ago. It's like my first gig. But what I was going to say, what I love about this movie is it gives children this amazing aspirational thing. Like, oh my gosh, you get to go to an airplane hangar. You get to go to a parking lot. Wow, like all the best places where kids want to go. Yeah, what you dream about. That's kind of how I, again, this gets back to my obsession with they are a band. Why not put them in musical situations, performance situations? They were called to perform with Tony Braxton.

58:05That's the only time. And that's why when we played it, I was like, oh, right. Why weren't all of the quests for each balloon, why weren't they all related to what the Oogilovs obviously are masters at, which is their musicianship. They're instruments. They are musical wunderkinds. Where did he go? Paul left. Paul was so upset that we didn't like the movie. Honestly. He was like, you know what? And I would tell you, Jason, that he was taking a position of being a contrarian for the sake of the show, for the sake of Detroit, to make it an interesting conversation. But I did see him watch this movie.

58:47I loved it. And I know that Detroit was really whining about this movie. And while I understand it, I also want to say, toughen up, Detroit. Stop being a bunch of whiny brats.

59:03Jason Mantzoukas:All right, I'm here in the audience. I'm going to talk to people. I'm going to give people some prizes for costumes. Okay, great. I have a person in a rad shirt. That kind of counts. Someone's volunteered you to ask a question, which means I don't have high hopes for it. But your name and then say your name. So my name would be Paul Oogie Love. So you say your name with the Oogie Love last name. I'm Dave Oogie Love. Great. Dave, what's your question? I just want to know if you knew that Real Steel was filmed here. Real Steel, the Hugh Jackman movie. Yeah. Was that an option? No What's his name?

59:39This was the only option Wait, what's his name? What's your name? Dave? Dave Dave, fuck you We watched Oogie Love You watched Oogie Loves We made you watch it Nothing else was considered Oogie Loves And if we come back to Detroit Oogie Loves 2 Put your phone down Put your phone down What I love Is that people think That we didn't know There are other choices Here's the guarantee Here's my promise to you. I hated this movie. I hated every goddamn second I suffered through this movie. If we come back to this town, we're going to watch every goddamn sequel of these movies just because you whined about it.

1:00:19Detroit, toughen up. You're supposed to be strong, Detroit. Bring it.

1:00:24Jason Mantzoukas:And here's the thing. Here's the thing. We'll say we're going to do real steel. and then you'll come here and go, surprise. It's Doogie Love. Doogie Love's two motherfuckers. All right, so we have somebody who worked on the movie. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait, I was brought under false pretenses. You know someone. Boo. Did you or did you not tell me you have someone who worked on the movie? Did, you tricked me. He's an audio engineer? and they have someone who worked as an audio engineer on this movie. Okay, well, this is good for ADR. Let's see if your story is going to be worth it. All right.

1:01:09I have a first hand.

1:01:10Jason Mantzoukas:You have a first hand. All right. I have a first hand. Well, now he's here. You don't have to hype man him. Okay. So, all right. So, all right. So, my name is Tom Ugilove. Thank you. Thank you. I can just tell you a few things. Please. All the actors fucking hated working on it. Wow. Wow. Except for one. Carrie Elwes. Wow! You know what? I could see that. For his shoot, apparently, with the false teeth that he's wearing. And you guys didn't really talk about his character. Well, this is a perfect moment. Great. And by the way, we're doing the best we can. We're waiting for you. He showed up to this movie.

1:01:47There's a lot to talk about. He showed up with false teeth that he had bought. And apparently they cost 20 grand. Wow! And I want to ask you guys. He also asked the production to reimburse him for those teeth. Did they? To which they were like, no, we can't do that.

1:02:06Jason Mantzoukas:Now, is it his voice? Do you know that? It is 100 % his voice. Wow. Okay, great. My buddy, while you guys were arguing. Great, good use of your phone. But it's just ADR. It's just all ADR. Is that why it feels so weird? Well, the reason it's all ADR is because the whatever they are. The oogilas. All the servos inside are going, weep, weep, weep, weep. That's what I thought. So they're... Wow. ...making the audio, making it unusable. Well, I understand why they're EDR'd, but why are the human actors EDR'd? I wonder if they didn't record sound on the day. They said it was so loud that it ruined...

1:02:40Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, because you have four robots running simultaneously. So they must have done no... They captured no sound. Wow. They captured it, but it was unusable. Yeah. Because imagine four robots going... Can you imagine... I've actually seen scenes before the audio mix was done. Wow. Anything deleted or no, you saw the final cut? Not sure about that. We live in a world where there are robots and these are they. By the way, I'm kind of blown away that these are robots because they don't look like there's robotic things because their mouth isn't working that good. Wait, so you're saying there's nobody in those suits?

1:03:21No, there's definitely people in them. Thank God.

1:03:24Jason Mantzoukas:We have somebody in a letter-kenny jersey right here. Yeah! Ferda! All right, what do you got? Is this movie Nazi propaganda? Yes. Because at the beginning of the movie, Zuzi and Tufi get out of bed and Nazi salute, then march, and, like, the only language that Zuzi speaks through the whole movie is German. Wow. Wait, really? What do you mean German? Well, she says Dankeschön and Gesundheit. And that's like the only thing she says. Wow. Well, she also does speak to the animals, you know. That's interesting. Now, I will say, I remember watching, we used to watch a lot of Thomas the Train. And it did feel like very communist in nature.

1:04:14Because Thomas wants to be useful. You know, he just wants to, doesn't want to have individual talents. or... Yeah. He just wants to be a useful engine. And I'm pretty sure Gooby is reading Mein Kampf at one point. Listen, this movie, it is, honestly, it's very clear. This is a dangerous film. Okay,

1:04:42Jason Mantzoukas:your name and your question. I am Woozie, not an Oogie Love, a bed bug. Oh, right, you have a bed bug She has the original costume character picture on her shirt. What? And I never saw this movie out of spite because I am a bed bug. We were on PBS. Our live show opened for Barney. Wait, you were on it? Yes, I was woozy. Wait, you really were? Oh, my God. Woozy in the house. Oh, my God. Woozy in the house. What? What? A standing ovation. Holy shit. Holy shit. Royalty is among us. Wow. Back then, we were Woozy, Toofy, and Gooby. It was still Jay Edgar. It was still Ruffy the Fish. It was Snoozy the Pillow.

1:05:47I don't know any of these names in this TV show. We did not have humans.

1:05:52Jason Mantzoukas:So you were the only character that they changed the name of. I feel good about that. No, you shouldn't. Well, you shouldn't feel good because you were irreplaceable. You were irreplaceable. Thank you. How long were you woozy? By the way, look behind you. Oh, there we are. I was woozy for five years. Five years? A long time. Wow. Did they ask anybody from Bed Bugs to be a part of this horrific Oogie Loves situation? No, they did not. Wow. Now I imagine. Would you have wanted to? Yeah, and what was the, yes. I was the, that was my dear character. Of course. This abomination of Oogie Loves is terrible.

1:06:38I don't know what these Popeye arms are that these characters have. That's... You're disagreeing with their Popeye arms. Everything else, everything else checks out. So did the whole cast of Bed Bugs, were they really upset about... Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We were promised the world. Then Mr. Teletubby Man came along and he bought it from us and said it was his and took it over. And I'm glad it was a terrible...

1:07:09Jason Mantzoukas:The question that I have right now is simply, When that gentleman asked me earlier, why didn't you do Real Steel? I'll say this. Is Hugh Jackman in the house? No. This is why we did Oogie Loves. Wow. Honestly, Paul, I'm chilled to the bone. For everybody here, right? Who was like, I don't like this movie. We got a turd. Wine, wine, wine. Can you imagine? You didn't know a fucking star was in your midst. Would that have happened if we did any of your other movies? No. Truly. Who's the in the house? Obviously we had opinions about this, but Detroit, you all love it. You have a different opinion.

1:07:57Jason Mantzoukas:It is now time for second opinions. My beer's turned warm and I'm wondering why I turned on this flick at all. J. Edgar Hoover strokes Wendy Window. And I can't look away. And even if I could, it'll be okay. Toofy's pants are falling down. It reminds me I gotta go on Amazon and give it five stars. Amazing. Amazing. All right. That was amazing. All right, so these are five-star reviews from Amazon. All right, there are 69 total reviews. 69. Yeah, 69. There are 68 % of them are five-star reviews. Five to 68%. Now, something interesting about this is that the Rotten Tomatoes score is 30, but the audience score is 62.

1:08:56Jason Mantzoukas:So it's pretty high. This one's written by Mia Casol. My granddaughter just loves this movie, which we first saw on Netflix, but I am buying the DVD so we can have a disc and take it with us. This gets her up and dancing right away. It's refreshingly fun. Non-animated. Very different from the usual fare being served now. Just totally fun. No fighting. No pirates. No princesses. Just pure fun. I highly recommend this movie. My granddaughter is three. Five stars. Update. Update. My granddaughter fell off a ladder. The ladder took the dare and won. And Phyllis R. Agnew writes, I took my three-year-old granddaughter to see this film two days in a row.

1:09:48Jason Mantzoukas:We were the only people in the theater both days. Those four tickets compromised 80 % of their... And also, like, three - and two-year-olds, they're just seeing colors and shapes. Yeah, it's hard to say that they're a discerning audience. Yeah, we can't be as much. I will read one one-star review because it's worth it. From M.R. Sycam. Your kid will be dumber by watching this. One star. I just quickly want to read you a couple things about this movie. The budget, we talked about. The big movies of this year, The Avengers, Dark Knight Rises, The Hunger Games. This movie not ranked. You know, this movie had a lot of interesting things.

1:10:39Jason Mantzoukas:We talked to the audience who had a lot to say about it, but I will say this, that one of only two theatrically released non-documentary films to be rated G by the MPAA, the other one is called Adventures in Zambia. So of that year, only two G movies, and this was one of them, so that's a big one. That's surprising to me, just, that's just generally surprising to me that there aren't more G-rated movies in a year. Very few live action films of the 2010s are rated G. The previous three not counting docs are Ramona and Bezos, Seven Days in Utopia, and Alvin and the Chipmunks, Chipwrecked. The next ones after it would be Mermaid's Tale, Bernie the Dolphin, Noel, and Bernie the Dolphin 2.

1:11:26Jason Mantzoukas:So, this movie was nominated for Razzies, but Lost to Twilight Saga Breaking Dawn Part 2. Which we've covered. Yes, we have covered that. And that is truly everything that we can say about Oogie Loves and the Big Balloon Adventure. And you guys thought we couldn't make a good show out of it. But I will show you the final thing, which is this. On IMDb, this movie has a very weird rating. Averill found this. You'll check this out. This is the rating that was on IMDb. Okay, for a parent's guide, sex and nudity, severe. Violence and gore, severe. Profanity, severe. Drugs, alcohol, smoking, severe.

1:12:13Jason Mantzoukas:Frightening, intense scenes, severe. So that is how it's rated so parents will stay away from this movie. That's got to be some sort of trolling going on or somebody... I think it's parents trying to help other parents. Yeah. I look at things like that all the time. I wouldn't put it on. Is it because the vacuum cleaner is not wearing any pants? Like, what is this? But people, thank you so much for coming out here, Detroit. Thank you. A big thank you to Beth Thomas, our stage manager. She did all those amazing clips. Amazing. And now we will pose for the picture. Paul, if you don't mind me interrupting.

1:12:56Yeah. I would not recommend this movie. Oh, I'm so sorry.

1:13:00Jason Mantzoukas:No, no, please don't apologize. I just want you to know I would not. I know you're glossing over it because you would. Yes. And you tacitly want everybody to believe we are recommending it. And I want to say out loud, I do not recommend this movie. June, do you recommend this movie? Yeah, sometimes we say, oh, if you're stoned or if you're, you know, on an airplane or if you are in jail. Like, there are certain reasons why you could watch certain movies. If you're in a pet hospital waiting room and have to watch this. There's no reason you should ever lay your eyes upon this. Ever. Firmly disagree.

1:13:33Jason Mantzoukas:It's a great film. If you want to watch this, watch Bed Bugs instead. That's right. Give it up for Wookiee. You guys were an amazing crowd. We love it. Thank you for waiting. Thank you for coming. We could not do this show without you. We'll be back. Detroit. We'll be back. We'll be back. Boogie loves two, three, and four. A three-night stay at the Fillmore. Eat shit! That's our show. If you are listening to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please rate and review us and make sure you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. It helps us. And we also just simply appreciate it a lot.

1:14:16Jason Mantzoukas:We'll see you next week. Bye for now. Hi, it's me, your gutters. Everything is totally fine. There's just a lot of debris up here and I've been managing it mostly on my own. I just thought you could find someone on Angie to clean me up. I could really use it. Your gutters have waited long enough. Find a pro at Angie.com. What's up, everybody? This is Sebastian Maniscalco. Now, I got a brand new series called We Got Company where I sit down one-on-one with some of the biggest names in entertainment, music, sports, food, and beyond. We're not just talking about what's happening today. We're getting into where they came from, what it took to get where they are, and the stories you probably never heard before.

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Finish sucking your milkshakes, because Paul, June, and Jason are LIVE from Detroit in front of a livid audience to discuss the 2012 kids mega-flop The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure. Despite June and Jason’s plea to cut this entire episode, the crew discuss Christopher Lloyd only speaking through bongos, J. Edgar the horny vacuum cleaner, the film’s shocking budget, and ask “Is this movie actually about hospice care?” (Ep. #306 Originally Released 11/24/2022)

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