Toys w/ Drew McWeeny (HDTGM Matinee)

6:45Paul Scheer:There's about 40 minutes in the middle where I counted not one attempt at a joke. Like they don't even try for a stretch, which is the strangest choice.

6:53Jason Mantzoukas:And Robin Williams, like Robin Williams' character in this movie is a very innocent, young, you know, idealistic man who then all of a sudden is making jokes. That's so much though.

7:03Drew McWeeny:Yeah, and then it turns out you think he's almost like a really weird child, like Peter Pan type character. But then he wants to get laid, and he and Robin Wright fuck, and you hear it. This movie, by the way, not for kids. Not for kids. It looks like it's a movie that's for kids. It's big and poppy and bright and toys and all, but it is not even remote. There are multiple sex scenes in this movie.

7:30Paul Scheer:And the sex scene, by the way. And I think we listened to him lose his virginity at one point, which is the creepiest thing that ever happened. Oh, 100%. Yeah.

7:37Jason Mantzoukas:And by the way, Robin Wright really gave it up quick. She was like, he's like, I want to be hugged. And she's like, let me take off that shirt. It's like, whoa.

7:42Drew McWeeny:Can I stay here tonight? And she's like, how about looking at my titties?

7:45Jason Mantzoukas:Now, at that point in the movie, Robin Williams has kind of started to figure out that the bad brother is making war toys. And I thought for sure that that sex scene was a diversion because they were being watched by a camera. Jamie Foxx, by the way, in his first ever on-screen role, watching Robin Williams hump Robin Wright pen. And I thought, oh, that bra over the thing. No, no, no, it's just a sex scene. There's nothing there. Nothing to it.

8:09Paul Scheer:But the craziest part of that whole explanation is that, evidently, Donald O 'Connor hired her specifically hoping she would end up fucking his son.

8:17Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, and Donald O 'Connor is the nice brother here. Yeah, is the dad.

8:20Paul Scheer:So it is like the biggest lawsuit in the universe just waiting to happen. And then it finally does, and it's creepy and gross.

8:26Drew McWeeny:He not only hires her, he says to her, according to her, my son's really going to like you. And then Joan Cusack, when she sees that Robin Wright and she goes, oh, he finally found her.

8:42Paul Scheer:I was like, woo! It's appropriate that he makes that crazy Michael Jackson joke because this has that same mix of supposed innocence and creepy sex predator vibe. It's perfect.

8:52Jason Mantzoukas:But there's something funny about him in the sense that Robin Williams, again, I feel like at certain points are like, just improvise. Have fun with this scene. Because his character drops. I mean, again, his character is all over the place. But his character makes Robin Williams-esque jokes. But then for this movie, he's like, yes, I am.

9:08Drew McWeeny:Did you pull the Gettysburg Address? Yes. Yes. Should I? We can get to it later. But that is the quintessence of fuck you, Robin Williams, for doing this.

9:18Jason Mantzoukas:I have a lot of the songs from the movie as well, if we ever want to dig into that.

9:22Paul Scheer:Their first lunch scene feels like they must have shot like six hours of them flirting, and all of it is him doing bits. Yes. It's awful.

9:29Jason Mantzoukas:And her laughing, which is such a sign of a bad comedy movie. I hate that thing where it's like the funny guy with the hot girl and the hot girl just goes, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. You're funny. And that's how they connect.

9:40Paul Scheer:It's worse than that. When he walks in smoking, Joe Cusack actually goes, smoke, that's funny. Just like she had to underline it just in case we didn't know it was supposed to be funny.

9:51Jason Mantzoukas:And I love that there's also like some weird, like, I mean, I not want to pick on the fantastical elements of the movie because obviously, yes, their house is a storybook that opens in a plane. You know, but then they're, you know, so I'm not going to pick on that kind of stuff.

10:04Drew McWeeny:But the visuals, a lot of the visuals, I will legitimately say are amazing. Yes, they're beautiful. You know, like really beautiful visual stuff happens in this movie.

10:12Paul Scheer:And I remember the trailer kind of selling that element of it. And it looked like, wow, that's kind of remarkable to look at.

10:18Jason Mantzoukas:And I kind of, I mean, by the way, we played this on the mini episode. One of the trailers for the movie is just Robin Williams in a field going, hello, I'm Robin Williams. And I think you should see the movie. Oh, just doing voices, advertising the movie with no clips, just doing crazy Robin Williams voices.

10:35Paul Scheer:I think that was in theaters right at the same time that Aladdin was out. So he was at an all time high where it was like, Robin can do no wrong and let him riff. And I think that's what that was trying to tell. That's crazy.

10:44Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, it's really, really nuts. Because I was like, my basic question was, I get it's fantastical, but what's the baseline? What is the real thing? What's not the real thing? Because it just, I didn't know if there was a real world outside of this world.

10:57Drew McWeeny:Didn't seem, if there is, we barely see it. Yeah, you don't see anything. We never leave, there is nothing juxtaposed to their world. We never leave their kind of idyllic, weird world.

11:08Jason Mantzoukas:The only time you leave it is when the kids are in their military training programs, and they're clearly bombing and destroying major metropolitan cities that look like ours. So there is a real— There must be, yeah. Yeah, there's just basically a very large field. It's like a Microsoft or Apple campus, but only with one very small building on it that has an elephant blowing bubbles out of its nose.

11:32Paul Scheer:I think one of the things that—and you guys have done a couple of these now— one of the biggest gambles you can do is this kind of world-building movie. Yes. Because when it goes wrong, it's nothing but trouble, or it's Pluto Nash, or it's this, where nothing about the world is interesting, nothing works, and it's such a mess before you even get to what's happening in it. Oh, completely.

11:51Jason Mantzoukas:And by the way, this movie took 10 months to make. Oh, no. That's a very long time. Is that right? Yeah, 10 months. Oof. And I feel like that thing that we were talking about with Robin Williams.

12:02Drew McWeeny:How many mayonnaise sandwiches do you think Joan Cusack had to eat in that time?

12:06Jason Mantzoukas:Joan Cusack. Her character trait is she likes sandwiches.

12:10Drew McWeeny:She likes sandwiches that are just bread, sometimes two slices of bread with mayonnaise, but that's it. Well, let's order another sandwich.

12:17Jason Mantzoukas:We have this clip right here.

12:19Paul Scheer:Cammon cheese, turkey, chicken salad, shrimp salad.

12:23Drew McWeeny:You know, Joe, I'm very disappointed that you never once had an applesauce sandwich on your menu.

12:29Paul Scheer:Apple sauce? Miss Divo, the sandwich will get all saggy.

12:33Drew McWeeny:Oh, I don't mind. I'll make you one tomorrow, okay? Okay, thank you very much. That's a scene from this movie. That's a scene in the movie! It's not like something we recorded to poke fun at how bad this movie is. That is actual dialogue that apparently took ten years to write.

12:53Jason Mantzoukas:There was a script supervisor behind the camera going, Yep, we got it. There's a cut, different angles on that scene. Let's do it again. Yeah, let's go again. When they were looking at the two-hour length, they were like, No, leave that scene in. Does it pay off? No. Oh, no, we never see her eat an applesauce sandwich. Yeah, that guy lied to her.

13:11Paul Scheer:And almost every scene, especially in the middle, I have no idea what they connect to or why they're there. There's so many scenes that are like them sitting on the couch doing the woozy helmet, which plays no part at the end of the film. The woozy helmet, they put it like three times so you know it exists. Well, that's the thing is nothing. You see what it does.

13:27Drew McWeeny:Nothing comes back. You know, like all of, I mean, like he's got the smoke jacket, which could have been used later in the movie when they go to war. The sound effects jacket. The fake puke. The woozy helmet. the fake puke and diarrhea, although that did make me laugh.

13:40Jason Mantzoukas:Did you like the novelty test where they're going out in the field and testing? That was so stupid. It was like they're in a room, they're like in an R &D room, watching like old, like almost like an 8mm footage of Robin Williams wearing very big ears in a supermarket going, we're testing out the big ears. And what, is he just walking around the supermarket? Like what? I mean, that is just a great dumb thing. It's like, oh yeah, they test out these things.

14:06Drew McWeeny:Like, the idea that it took him, just the more I think about the idea that it took Barry Levinson 10 years to write this makes me depressed. Because this is what he came up with?

14:16Jason Mantzoukas:Well, to me, it's like, but what is this movie? This is what he was honing? But for a minute, like I would say from after the first couple of scenes, which are very long, but you are set up that the military guy wants to make military toys and Robin Williams does not want to make that. And then there is no other plot complication really.

14:36Paul Scheer:I think that's why they give so much time to the Robin Wright pin thing, because why not? They need to do something to kill time.

14:41Jason Mantzoukas:That's their B story. And the B story is not really, there's no real obstacle. He meets her. They fall in love pretty instantly. And then they consummate it just a couple scenes later. And then at the end, it's cool. It's just kind of like flowing. You're just kind of like, ah.

14:56Drew McWeeny:Why does she dress like a crazy person? I mean, they all dress like crazy people. I feel like she dressed like Cher from Clueless.

15:02Jason Mantzoukas:I felt like Robin Wright played it.

15:03Drew McWeeny:Yeah, but at one point she's wearing a Scottish kilt. And nobody else is eccentric. Yeah, everybody else is normal. And all the other toy people are wearing lab coats and blah, blah, blah. And she's dressed like a fucking maniac. At one point she's wearing a Sgt. Pepper's jacket or something.

15:20Jason Mantzoukas:I was like, what the fuck is happening? Well, she's in charge of the duplication room. I do have that scene as well. LL Cool J. Now, this is what I'll tell you that I remember from the movie. thinking LL Cool J was hilarious. Really? I was like, I love the fact that he disappears. He's like in the wall. Basically, LL Cool J is a very highly trained military guy. He can blend into anything. And I just thought LL Cool J was the best. He was super cool. And now it did not hold up for me. I thought he was like full of laughs. Oh, yeah. No. I mean, this movie, this movie, I don't even know. I want to dig into it.

16:02Jason Mantzoukas:And I'm just like, I just keep on thinking back to scenes. Like the scene with LL Cool J and Michael Gambon around the fire talking about basically Michael Gambon coming up with the idea of drone ships. Like he's like, that's basically the premise of the movie. He's like, I'm going to create little drones.

16:16Drew McWeeny:Do you think that drones, our current military drones, were inspired by somebody watching this movie? Well, that's what I said. This movie, yeah, this is it.

16:23Jason Mantzoukas:This is the foreshadowing. Barry Levinson was right. It took 12 minutes and figured it out.

16:31Jason Mantzoukas:Man, oh, man.

16:32Paul Scheer:That's the thing. I wonder if there was ever a draft of this that was more normal, that was more like a strange love, that actually understood toys and war toys. Because it seems like that would be maybe interesting. But then you layer all this other stuff on top and it just gets so busy that you can't even get to that.

16:48Jason Mantzoukas:Here's my issue with movies about toys in general. And not like Toy Story, but like movies that are Santa movies. They're never making the toys that most kids play with. Nobody would play with these. They're nightmare machines, most of them. Yeah, they really are crazy. Oh, speaking of nightmare machines, they do one thing where they're testing out one doll and they're pulling it by all the arms. Ooh, it's the last temptation of Barbie. Robin Williams makes that joke. It's like, all right, so in this world, the last temptation of Christ exists. He has seen it and he is familiar with it. So again, where's the fucking baseline?

17:19Jason Mantzoukas:Is he innocent?

17:20Drew McWeeny:Where is reality? Yeah. You know, because he's got a million, he does a million weird, like, Robin Williams references. Yes. That I'm like, what the fuck is, like, has he ever been outside this compound?

17:32Paul Scheer:And if he's hyper innocent, how does he have all of this in his head? Yes. Because it seems like there's no way he's this innocent, naive character with all this also bouncing around in there. Making dick jokes the next second.

17:43Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, that's the other thing, too.

17:45Paul Scheer:I get why. The devil puppet has got to be the creepiest thing. Oh, my God. I want to get laid. Yeah, that's so wrong. So long on every level. And he was carrying it around just in case. Just to make the reference it looked like. Oh, yeah. And he's stalking her.

17:59Drew McWeeny:He's clearly, she's riding her bike home, and he drives right out. And he's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. And, you know, he's like a real pervo.

18:06Jason Mantzoukas:It's super creepy. And, again, we'll say the movie is called Toys. The logo for the film has, like, rubber duckies on it and stuff like that. It is not a movie for children.

18:15Drew McWeeny:I swear to God, I think every single person in this movie is on the spectrum. You know what I mean? Like, there isn't a person.

18:22Paul Scheer:I don't disagree with you. In this movie. And LL Cool J is just thinking about the vegetables on his plate. How weird was that? I don't want this touching that. I don't want this touching that. That was crazy. I'm a military man. I like a military plate. Yes. Really? By the way, I was saying that that has.

18:33Jason Mantzoukas:What's a military plate? Does that exist? Is that a real thing? I was actually saying that that was my go-to monologue when I was auditioning for theater. Because it was so, like, prepared. It was so, like, I don't like this touching that. I don't like this touching that. That's amazing. It was such a, like, I feel like he really got into the meat of that scene. Let's hear LL Cool J interrogate Robin Wright Penn in the duplication room.

18:57Drew McWeeny:Are you Miss Quintala? We're doing some routine questions. We'd like you to cooperate, all right?

19:03Jason Mantzoukas:Okay.

19:04Drew McWeeny:There's any duplicating going around here when you're not present? Huh?

19:10Paul Scheer:Yeah, maybe.

19:11Drew McWeeny:Do you duplicate alone?

19:13Paul Scheer:I don't think that's kind of a personal question.

19:15Drew McWeeny:What? You're laughing, Miss Tyler. Are you taking my duplication investigation seriously? Or are you disrespecting my duplication investigation? No, no, I'm not disrespecting.

19:24Paul Scheer:I'm just saying that there's no real way I can check, you know, because I leave at a certain time.

19:30Drew McWeeny:I'm not... Duplicating is taking place. And when duplicating takes place, that means there's more than one. It may be two or three, Miss Tyler. Two, three, or four. What? What is going on? What is going... These are scenes. These are lines these actors memorized. They said them in front of Barry Levinson, the writer-director, and he was like, yeah. Just like I wanted it. Thanks, guys. What?

19:54Jason Mantzoukas:Hearing these scenes without the visuals make it even crazier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it really is. It's like, what is the purpose of that scene? Again, something that doesn't come back. The duplication room, is it just wordplay? Is that funny?

20:09Drew McWeeny:I think that's what it is. I think it's just like it's meant to be funny wordplay.

20:14Paul Scheer:Meant to be, maybe?

20:15Drew McWeeny:I don't know. I don't know. Because otherwise, I don't know what the point of the scene is. His investigation never yields anything. No. She never duplicates anything. No. Nobody. Duplication is not even like a thing in the movie.

20:29Jason Mantzoukas:And that, by the way, you would think anything would come back, or they would use that duplication room at the end when they have the war of the bad toys and the good toys. There's so many things that I also felt like were fixed in ADR, too. Like, there's one scene where Michael Gambon is out there talking to LL Cool J, and they're, like, having this heart-to-heart. And he's talking about his dream to get children to fly airplanes and massacre people. And there would be the new military. And he's doing this impassioned speech. And then all of a sudden, these flares start going off in the sky.

21:01Paul Scheer:Not only do flares go off, but then we lose them in the sound mix completely. So Gambon's going, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the background. And there's flares from nobody. And there's smoke. And he's on a, it's the weirdest staging.

21:12Jason Mantzoukas:He's clearly not launching those flares. Clearly not. You know where those flares are coming from. And then all of a sudden you hear like this ADR line from Robin Williams. Like, always carry a flare. It's like, wait, he was shooting it? Where was he? He wasn't even in the scene. No, no, no.

21:23Drew McWeeny:Wait, I thought Michael Gambon ADR'd that line.

21:26Jason Mantzoukas:No, Michael, Robin Williams says a flare line underneath it. No. So Robin Williams, I rewound it. What? So like, in my mind, it was like, oh, he's also in the field. No way. Shooting flares.

21:35Drew McWeeny:No, I thought, whoa, that's weird. Because you would see. No, I thought it was Michael Gambon who had looped that. Oh, that's true. I'm like 90 % positive.

21:45Jason Mantzoukas:Because I rewound it because I was like, where are these flares coming from?

21:49Drew McWeeny:Because you would show him shooting a gun. I thought the exact same. Because I thought in my mind, I thought they were fireworks. Yes, that's what I thought they were. Because he's giving this big impassioned kind of rah, rah, rah military speech. And fireworks start going off. And I was like, oh, okay. So there's fireworks going off. Well, maybe this is just a bit. Maybe this is just a bit of. You know what? In this fucking movie, I'll buy a bit of magical realism. Whatever. I don't know what's happening. So why wouldn't there be fireworks? And then somebody, I thought my game on goes, always carry a flare gun or whatever.

22:22Drew McWeeny:And I was like, whoa, whoa, wait. What?

22:24Jason Mantzoukas:To me, I thought that was like they were bridging the date scene with Robin Williams and Robin Wright Penn. They were going to go back over to them because they were out in the field. I don't know. So, but there's also just moments like, I mean, Robin Williams also, he's, I mean, there's so many things about this movie. I have a question. Yes, please.

22:43Paul Scheer:The scene early on where they're all working and you see the factory floor and they play that awful Tori Amos song that they're all dancing to. Yes. So they're obviously listening to it on the factory floor. And they're singing along. And they're singing along. So then when Michael Gambone takes over, suddenly there's the hip hop remix of that song. Yes. Are they playing that in the factory, too? And is that to let them know that he's now a bad guy and that everything has changed and it's awful? I'm assuming, yeah. How weird is that?

23:08Drew McWeeny:Because those people are all singing along in the beginning with that song, which I thought was very strange.

23:13Paul Scheer:So he actually went in himself, remixed the song that they listened to, and then started playing that on the factory?

23:18Jason Mantzoukas:Well, look, as much as he got them to make a camouflage clown costume for him as well. Oh, yeah. Because he also went from being a military man. He outfitted all of his people to be like pretend Nazis, and then he put on a colorful military man outfit.

23:35Drew McWeeny:He's got like fatigues that are the camouflage colors are bright poppy toy colors. Yes. I would have liked to have seen those conversations.

23:44Paul Scheer:If we had to watch terrible conversations, why not those at least? Let's see. I mean,

23:50Jason Mantzoukas:because it also goes against everything that he's setting up. because when you're in his office, his office is taking out all the color and putting up stark black and white, almost propaganda-like images in his office of war. But then he's in this colorful thing and he's running over people. Do you want to hear the Happy Workers song for a second? We'll just hear a second of it.

24:18Jason Mantzoukas:So that goes on for like four minutes.

24:20Drew McWeeny:It goes on for like four minutes and this is what everybody... The presumption, because then you see people singing along with it on the factory floor. The presumption is this plays all day? Yeah.

24:30Jason Mantzoukas:Constantly? It is like a weird F.A.O. Schwartz world. And by the way, these people are coming in. Workers don't live there. They're coming in because that's when they take over the factory. They're being scanned and outfitted and everything like that. So, yeah, they're going insane. This is an insane asylum.

24:46Paul Scheer:They get paid to go to every day.

24:48Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah, they're going there.

24:49Drew McWeeny:They're like, I got to go to fucking work. I've got to sing that song all day and then have an applesauce sandwich.

24:55Paul Scheer:I've got to make – I'm going to kill myself. You said FAO Schwartz. How much do you want to bet when Robin Williams delivers that FAO Schwartz copf line? What do you bet Barry Levinson is high-fiving himself? That was a home run. That line is – you're like the whole thing exists for that line. It's so not worth it. No, no, no. It's the longest drive possible to get there.

25:16Jason Mantzoukas:FAO Schwartz copf. Well, I do want to bring up, Drew, you might actually run into J.J. Abrams, so I think this is a great chance for you to ask him, did he steal that Mission Impossible 4 gag from this movie?

25:27Paul Scheer:I was going to say, yeah, it's the hallway gag is exactly like the one in the last movie. Yes, yes. It's just that that's the good version that doesn't somehow involve a terrible music video.

25:37Drew McWeeny:Basically, all right, here's the plan. Why don't the cards? Why don't the, okay, let's, you just explain it, and then I've got real questions about the MTV logo.

25:45Jason Mantzoukas:Oh, the MTV logo. And Robin Williams needs to break into the bad guy's side of the factory because he's taking over the factory slowly but surely. And they come up with an idea that they just go, ooh, MTV.

25:57Drew McWeeny:That's the answer. How are you going to get in? They're asked, how are you going to get into the restricted area? MTV. What?

26:03Jason Mantzoukas:Now, by the way, also going against the morals of these characters because you wouldn't think that these characters are watching MTV. We haven't even seen a television. Never. So they create an elaborate thing where they, just like Mission Impossible 4, set out a screen in a hallway where the security hallway is. And anyone can help me out to describe this. And then they are broadcasting a video on that screen. But this is all to distract the security camera, which they have planted a fake MTV logo on. So we would say like security camera A.

26:39Drew McWeeny:The two guys who are sitting at the security desk are looking at a bank of monitors.

26:43Paul Scheer:And don't realize one of them suddenly changes completely.

26:45Drew McWeeny:And the monitor that is for the restricted area suddenly is MTV.

26:51Jason Mantzoukas:Just suddenly has an MTV logo on it. It's changed.

26:54Drew McWeeny:Must be MTV then. Must be MTV. And they go, I guess it's part of the cable. And the other guy goes, we have cable? Now, meanwhile, again. What? These are security cameras. These are not broadcast. This is not. These are not TVs.

27:09Jason Mantzoukas:If you were at your cubicle right now listening to this, just imagine all of a sudden someone just putting an MTV logo on the bottom of your computer. You would not be confused that your computer is no longer your computer. You wouldn't look at it.

27:22Drew McWeeny:A screen you've looked at for a long time, you wouldn't look at it and be like, huh, I guess this is MTV now.

27:28Jason Mantzoukas:So that was their big plan to create an MTV music video. Now, here's my version of that plan, which is just bypass the chords and broadcast the signal on it that is MTV. No, they're doing a live MTV music. I got a better one for you.

27:44Paul Scheer:I got it in front of the screen to perform instead of using that time to sneak into something. Exactly.

27:49Drew McWeeny:It's Robin Williams and Joan Cusack, two people who are performing as Yolanda and somebody else. Yolanda and Steve. Yolanda and Steve is the name of their group. Another high five Barry gave himself, I'm sure. They're performing their hit song, whatever, and the two security guards are into it. And they don't seem to recognize that the two people who are the owner's son and daughter, who are the two most important people at this company, are Yolanda and Steve. They never say, like, hey, isn't that a, what's his name and who's Magoozie?

28:24Jason Mantzoukas:There's only two people that are, it would be like, I was thinking, I wrote this down. It would be like if Obama put on a red hat, he'd be like, oh, who's that gentleman singing on MTV? This is Obama. He can do anything different. We all know who these people are.

28:39Drew McWeeny:They are the figureheads of this company. Now, this is what I want to try and explain, okay? So when they push the screen in front of, they push the screen in front so that they can mask, so they can go behind a door behind them, right? Yes. And when they push the screen in front, the first image that's projected onto the screen is a mirror image of the door. Yes. Of the hallway in the door. So it looks unchanged. And that's, by the way, the Mission Impossible version. Now, rather than just leave that, so when the guys look at the camera, what they're looking at is the same security feed and it looks fine, they could have gone and done way more super sleuthing and spying.

29:23Drew McWeeny:Yes. They take 10 minutes to perform an MTV-style music video that would have never played on MTV. That would have never played on MTV. That MTV would never be on the security cameras. Like, leave the first thing with the door image.

29:36Jason Mantzoukas:You fucking idiot. They have figured out that much of the technology to already get away with it. Yeah.

29:44Drew McWeeny:But they can't help themselves. They're like, I want to. It must have taken them days to make that music video. Oh, yeah. Ridiculous. All those visuals and all the special effects.

29:53Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, again, I will point out, I will trump your thing and say, or we've already talked about it, which is they perform it live. Yes. They shouldn't have done that. Yep. They should have just, if they wanted to do the projection of the MTV plan, if we agree that the MTV plan was a solid one. Yep, just show a video. They should have just projected the video. Yep. And, by the way, had other videos to follow it. They basically had one video. Yep. And Robin Williams and Joan Cusack are both heavily involved in that video. Then he has to wait. So they don't have time to go and spy.

30:23Paul Scheer:He's got like 12 seconds of workable time to get inside. While she has a guitar solo.

30:29Jason Mantzoukas:Let's hear a little bit of this song just so you get a taste of it.

30:32Drew McWeeny:These are the people you haven't even met. Looking forward into the old days. Looking back.

30:41Jason Mantzoukas:You don't need to hear more.

30:42Drew McWeeny:That's a real song in the movie. It goes on for ages. It's even called Back later. Yes. When other security guards are watching it. Jamie Foxx is watching it. And they're like, where'd you get that? And they're like, oh, we taped it off of a security feed from an old kid. What? So, by the way, these guys are taping security feeds and just passing them around.

31:00Jason Mantzoukas:So now this is a viral video?

31:03Drew McWeeny:This invented viral videos. Only at Zivo factories.

31:06Jason Mantzoukas:By the way, I will buy that when they wrote this originally in 1980, this would have been a video that played in 1980 MTV. So that, I guess, makes sense. But 1992, I mean, this is on the... Actually, grunge. We're in grunge era at this point. We're past Nirvana.

31:25Drew McWeeny:Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, that's all 91.

31:27Jason Mantzoukas:Can we talk about Randy Quaid who pops up in the movie for a scene and a half? Wait, I missed it. Randy Quaid pops in in the room when he's shooting the gun at his foot? That's right. No, you know who that is? That's Blake Clark. Oh, okay. Good.

31:45Paul Scheer:I'm sorry. I think some of his earliest work, he was cast as military because he was. Like Clark used to be military.

31:51Jason Mantzoukas:Okay. Okay, good. Because I was like, I thought, was Randy Quaid just around that day? I'm like, oh, get in there. Get in there. Get in there. Do the scene.

32:00Paul Scheer:Quaid, get in there. And the scene, if you're talking about the scene with the fly, right? Yes. Another scene. How does that connect to anything? Isn't this guy a three-star general? Yes. Yes. This guy actually made it to three-star general, and yet he's dumb enough to shoot his own foot to try and kill a fly.

32:16Jason Mantzoukas:He's going. And by the way, at that point in the movie, he's going crazy. Oh, yeah.

32:21Paul Scheer:Yeah, because you have the two-minute opera scene first.

32:23Jason Mantzoukas:But there is also where he's singing along to the opera. But there's also no reason for him to really go crazy because I guess he has – he basically has a plan to meet up with the military. Pitch this idea of children killing people.

32:35Drew McWeeny:Yeah, children operating remote-controlled, like, toys that are actual killer drone weapons.

32:40Jason Mantzoukas:Meanwhile, Jamie Foxx and his partner are watching on in a van where they're basically 3D and they're skeletons. That's odd. I won't get into the fact that that happens. Oh, also there's a sea monster.

32:50Drew McWeeny:Also they've invented a sea monster. The sea monster. Why? Don't know. Got to get to that sea monster. Don't know. But if you're wondering if there's a sea monster in this movie, there is. Yeah.

33:00Jason Mantzoukas:And we're not even quite, yeah, that sea monster. All right, so he pitches the idea to the government. The government goes, ah, we got to think about it. To which immediately he starts choking this man. Yes. Choking him and trying to kill him. But that psychotic break seems to be not really founded in any way. Like, he's only been successful. It looks like these kids are doing a great job at killing people. Everything seems according to plan.

33:27Paul Scheer:But when you talk about them being on the spectrum, that scene where he goes to see Jack Warden, which, by the way, is the saddest, creepiest use of Jack Warden. Oh, yeah. Between the first one and then the last one where he just pops up and goes, war. Yeah. That is so upsetting if you ever like Jack Warden, ever. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, that whole scene, he's playing it like he's an infant. Oh, like he's a little boy having a temper tantrum. It is so strange the way they do that.

33:50Jason Mantzoukas:Is that on purpose, like everybody's supposed to be a kid? But that's the thing. They aren't, though. Sometimes they aren't. It fluctuates from scene to scene. What about Debbie Mazur? Debbie Mazur.

34:01Drew McWeeny:Can we talk about Debbie Mazur's character? He fucks both the military dad and his son, Jamie Foxx. No, no, his son, LL Cool J. LL Cool J. And they were engaged.

34:12Paul Scheer:And he hinges on the idea that he figures out that he fucked his dad, that she fucked his dad, and that's why he finally helps the good guys. Not because they're right.

34:20Drew McWeeny:Because she tells him that his dad is responsible for killing his mom. By sending her undercover. The mom didn't have appendicitis.

34:27Paul Scheer:Right, disguised as Jane Foxx. But that never would have happened if she hadn't made the mistake and said, oh, yeah, I fucked your dad, too.

34:34Jason Mantzoukas:Well, yeah, that's like that coincidental, like everything hinged on this one. He's like just about to have sex with her and she calls him the wrong name, which I feel like is such a movie trope. Does that happen?

34:46Drew McWeeny:Can everybody write in and say on the message boards or whatever, have you called someone or had someone call you the wrong name during sex?

34:55Paul Scheer:Yes, I buy that that is just in movies.

34:57Jason Mantzoukas:And that moment, that basically hinges, if that moment doesn't happen.

35:02Paul Scheer:None of the ending does.

35:03Jason Mantzoukas:None of the ending does. Yeah.

35:04Drew McWeeny:Yeah. None of it does. Oh, no. Because that's the only thing that drives LL Cool J to help the Robin Williams gang.

35:10Jason Mantzoukas:And help him, he does, by basically saying, well, we'll have a war. Yeah. We'll have a war of toys.

35:17Drew McWeeny:Yes. Because it's basically, at this point, the movie turns into, like, good guys versus bad guys, like a kid's game, except that there's real stakes because all of the bad guys' toys have real guns in them. Yes. Like there's a little doll that pushes a little baby in a carriage, and then the baby's bottle raises up and is a six-shooter and starts shooting at them. And then where would that toy— And then Joan Cusack goes, that's a bad baby.

35:43Jason Mantzoukas:Like, you were almost just killed. I thought that Joan Cusack was sick the entire movie. We'll get to what she is. I remember you said that in the minisode.

35:50Paul Scheer:You said, I think the assistant's sick. And I started laughing. I'm like, oh, he hasn't watched it again yet. No.

35:56Jason Mantzoukas:She's like so, I was like, oh, she's going to be, no, we'll tell you what she is in a second. That fight sequence is 40 minutes.

36:04Paul Scheer:From when they decide to go to war to when they stop the war after that insane plane sequence, it's 40 solid minutes.

36:11Jason Mantzoukas:And of a two-hour long movie. A two-plus hour. Yeah.

36:14Drew McWeeny:I feel like. I fast-forwarded through part of that.

36:17Jason Mantzoukas:That end sequence, yeah. I couldn't deal with it. Because I legitimately was like, what the fuck is this? I was playing a little bit of Simpsons Tapped Out during some of that. I was like, I'm... I will say that, again, the conceit of this is an interesting conceit, which is kids flying drone ships and killing because they're really good at video games. Oh, we didn't talk about it when he goes to the video arcade. Oh, the general? The general goes to a video arcade in one part of the movie, and like he's, oh, what are these video games? And he starts playing a video game and like, oh, you have to help protect the UN trucks?

36:54Drew McWeeny:Yeah, you have to shoot tanks and don't shoot the UN trucks.

36:57Jason Mantzoukas:And he just starts shooting the UN trucks because he hates the UN.

37:00Paul Scheer:Yeah, and he's super awesome at this game. And he's got the spit on his chin the whole time. Like, Michael Gambon was so disturbing in his career before this. When you look at the cook, the thief, his wife, or the lover, or the singing detective, or any of these, like he was so disturbing. The idea that they cast him in a comedy was like somebody had an aneurysm while they were in the casting process.

37:20Drew McWeeny:This whole movie is weirdly – I mean, this truly is, like – and I don't have any answers. Like, I – this really is how did this get made. Like, this is a true – like, there's plenty of movies we do that I'm like, I get it. I get why this got made. I get what the – it's a failure or it's a mess or whatever. But I genuinely look at this movie and I'm like, I don't know why. Who is it for? I know how it got made. Oh, really?

37:43Paul Scheer:Oh, wow, my gosh. Good Morning Vietnam. Oh, really? Because they had just done a comedy that was set in an active war with Robin Williams and Barry Levinson. It was a huge critical hit in commercial. And they said, now I can finally make my dream movie. Got it. But dream movies almost always blow by the time they finally get made. Isn't that so interesting? Because people have overthought them and they've had them bouncing around their heads for so long.

38:05Drew McWeeny:Or it's a movie that there is a dream, but everybody thought it was bad. So people were like, no, we're not going to do this. Let's do that other movie you want to do.

38:13Jason Mantzoukas:Now, let me talk to you about this. So Good Morning Vietnam was 87, right? Yep. Then he did Rain Man. Then he did Avalon. Then he did Bugsy. And then he did Toys. Yep. Really? Yes. That's interesting. It was just building clout.

38:26Paul Scheer:He was on such a roll at that point. Oh, yeah. And then he finally got to say, here's this thing that's been in my drawer. I'm going to do this now. And I want Robin because Robin and I can do this. We can pull this tone off.

38:38Jason Mantzoukas:And now here's the thing. Like, he made Wag the Dog in 97, which is a funny commentary on war and politics. Because it knows something about war.

38:47Paul Scheer:This movie, it's like he doesn't even understand the army. How is LL Cool J, who's evidently active military, hanging around and fucking off with his dad? Oh, he's so excited. And nobody cares. And it's like he doesn't get how the army works. So why would you try to make a military satire?

39:02Jason Mantzoukas:And I feel like people are going, it's like Strangelove. It's like Strangelove. Or like, that's what, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, this is not, this is not.

39:09Paul Scheer:Strange Love is about how the reality is so fucking crazy that it's hilarious. Yeah. Because everything in that movie is real. Yeah. Everything.

39:16Jason Mantzoukas:And this movie is just, it's sort of like the most.

39:19Drew McWeeny:And this movie is like, what if hilarious was reality? It's like the opposite of that.

39:25Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I was thinking, it's like a psychiatric ward put on a show. And it was like. Exactly. It's just, it has those feelings. And then we'll talk about an applesauce sandwich. Yeah. And then we'll have the duck and they'll fire weapons. because, again, the toys that he's setting up make sense. The drones make sense. But the baby carriage with the machine gun, where is that going? We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back to talk more about this war scene. So anyway, they decide that the only way to win this war of the toy factory is to have toys versus toys, and Robin Williams must, I guess, empower the toys, which we didn't really realize are alive.

40:05Jason Mantzoukas:No.

40:06Paul Scheer:It gives them the Patton Henry V speech. And it's insane.

40:10Jason Mantzoukas:Let's take a listen to this speech. And I left the whole thing in because it's... Plug, please. Plug, please. It's so worth it.

40:16Drew McWeeny:Four stores many Christmases ago, my father brought forth a factory conceived in innocence and joy and squeezable fun for everyone.

40:25Paul Scheer:God. But today may be the beginning of the end.

40:31Drew McWeeny:Or the end of the beginning. The beginning of the beguine. And when you go fourth today, or fifth, depending on your order in line, we are here today to put you in harm's way. Because we determined today in this warehouse the future of toys as we know it.

40:52Paul Scheer:Try to imagine watching these aliens as fun and being excited. Oh God, we have done it.

40:59Drew McWeeny:Try to imagine being like junkies like a Robin Wright and having to do take after take of this while he just does this.

41:05Jason Mantzoukas:I mean, by the way, this is a man speaking to toys that we have never set up in this whole movie have any life or personality to them.

41:14Paul Scheer:I don't think by the end we're supposed to believe that either. I think it literally is just he gives a rallying speech to toys that they wind up and push out. Yep. And that's all it is.

41:23Jason Mantzoukas:And then when you watch those toys, they get decimated like Saving Private Ryan. It's like Saving Private Ryan without the emotional stakes because you're watching like heads get blown off like little football men just getting destroyed. It's ultra-violent. It's ultra-violent. But yet again, no one is really, like, the toys are getting hurt. Yeah. I don't know.

41:43Paul Scheer:It's the lowest stakes war humanly imaginable.

41:46Jason Mantzoukas:So the war scene is getting out of control at this point. Dolls are dying. The sea monster's been activated. Oh, and the sea monster, because we want to talk about the sea monster, too. Well, I don't know what you should talk about. What did Alice say? Is that how you say her name? Joan Cusack Scalor. Oh, oh. I don't remember. I guess basically the war is almost over, and then Joan Cusack gets hurt, and we find out that Joan Cusack is a robot. Yes. Joan Cusack is a robot. I'm saying that again.

42:22Drew McWeeny:You thought in the movie that she was just kind of a fragile, kind of autistic, maybe like on the spectrum kind of oddball. Nope. This girl. Nope. A sheltered kind of homebody. Nope. Total robot. A robot. She's a robot. No, no, no. I just need people who are listening to the podcast to know. Just take it in. The Joan Cusack character who's been one of the main characters. We've seen eat multiple sandwiches. She's eating sandwiches with vitamins in them. Which she did say, though, they go through the system. Yep. She said, see, they easily go through my system, which now means something. She's a goddamn robot.

43:07Jason Mantzoukas:Which, by the way, here's the other thing. Everyone knows. Everyone knew that she was a robot, but us, the audience. Yes. Robin Williams is like, oh, yeah, she's a robot. My dad created her for me because my mom died early. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, like this?

43:21Drew McWeeny:How is this possible? And how is this? No, no, no. How is it possible?

43:25Jason Mantzoukas:So is she that age?

43:27Paul Scheer:Well, that's the question. She can't grow. Have they been building a new robot every year that's a little bigger?

43:33Jason Mantzoukas:No, because LL Cool J goes, it looks like she's always been the same age of 30.

43:39Paul Scheer:That's insanely creepy.

43:40Jason Mantzoukas:So when he was like 10, he had a 30-year-old sister?

43:45Drew McWeeny:Yeah. I mean, what the fuck is going on?

43:47Jason Mantzoukas:And by the way, their relationship is he takes care of her. Yeah. Which you would think would be the opposite.

43:55Paul Scheer:You know, he doesn't have a mother. Let me build him something that's going to be a burden and responsibility for the rest of his life.

44:00Drew McWeeny:It's some next level craziness when that is revealed. It makes, when her head came off. It's infuriating.

44:08Jason Mantzoukas:When her head came off, not only did I stop it, but then I had to go like, wait, wait. I rewound it again because the crazier thing about her head falling off is no one reacts to it as if like, oh my God. Yeah. They go, oh wow. Okay. It's over there. And by the way, you want to take out the stakes of it, it's fine. We can just rebuild her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't stress it.

44:29Drew McWeeny:If that's the case, why not send her into war immediately? You know, like why protect her? Why not just be like, robot, go.

44:39Jason Mantzoukas:She gets taken out like a wimp. She gets taken out by just a stray bullet to the head. She should have done something. She should have like touched electrical equipment. She should have done something robotic. Why didn't she have powers?

44:51Drew McWeeny:Yes, she's a robot. Why doesn't she have strength? Why doesn't she have...

44:54Jason Mantzoukas:Because she's not getting the applesauce sandwiches. She needs that for the proper strength. Okay, so she gets her head blown off. And at which point, Michael Gambon runs away to be kind of targeted by this sea monster that has a robot... It is the weirdest.

45:15Paul Scheer:They never remotely explain the sea slug thing. The Z-slug, we don't know really what it is. It's a defense mechanism, but you have to fall into a hole. You have to fall into a pit of water that nobody would fall into.

45:29Jason Mantzoukas:I think they were keeping it there to monitor it, and then they would eventually unleash it on people in the society. Like almost like – this is how I drew it. That it was like a dolphin, like one of those dolphins that finds mines, but it is actually a dolphin that is like a mine. That's how I kind of thought.

45:45Paul Scheer:You gave it more thought than they gave it. You really thought this out. I think that's way more thought than they gave him.

45:50Jason Mantzoukas:I was just trying to make up for June not being here. I think it was just a monster.

45:53Paul Scheer:Oh, nice call. Nice, good, good.

45:54Jason Mantzoukas:But that is really what I did think. But that sea monster is loose at a certain point. On land, of course. On land, of course. Yes. And he's targeting the bad brother. And he's targeting, targeting. So he's part robot, the sea monster, too. The sea monster, I guess, is a toy. I don't think so.

46:14Paul Scheer:I think it's like a war thing. And then he quotes the day the Earth stood still at it.

46:18Jason Mantzoukas:To get it to stop. But then the screen just goes to white.

46:22Paul Scheer:It still fires and it looks like it kills him.

46:24Jason Mantzoukas:Right. And so you think he's dead until the very next scene when you're like, oh, that's kind of crazy. The movie kills two characters. And then they immediately take that back. And they go, well, no, they're both not dead.

46:36Drew McWeeny:Everybody's fine.

46:38Jason Mantzoukas:JK, guys. JK. And not only are they fine, but he's now next to his dad, Jack Warden, in the bed. and they're both in the military hospital, which is just in a room in the house with Debbie Mazur. And he's kind of now gone full. He's moved up on the spectrum.

46:57Paul Scheer:He's super crazy. So that's the rest of his life now? What a horror movie ending that is.

47:01Jason Mantzoukas:So he's in that bed and it's just a conveyor belt of little action figure or warman figurines coming across. Ooh, so upsetting. This movie is a fucking bummer. And then they have a happy Christmas song again.

47:15Paul Scheer:Just to make sure that they leave you on some weird note of. So has a year passed in this movie?

47:21Jason Mantzoukas:Yes, I believe a year has passed. Everything is back to normal again. And Joan Cusack has still got some learning to do. It's a bummer. This movie is a bummer.

47:33Paul Scheer:Thanks a lot, Drew. The crazy thing is I know people who defend this. Why? Why do they defend it? I have a theory that any movie that was on HBO constantly when you were between the age of 8 and 12. Sure. you think is great. Because it's Stockholm. Well, we get that. We saw it over and over and over.

47:50Jason Mantzoukas:We encountered that Spice World was one of those movies that really people revolted on.

47:53Paul Scheer:And then you go back and you look at it as adult and you're like, oh my God, my skull wasn't hard yet. What was wrong with me at that age that I love this?

47:59Jason Mantzoukas:Well, I mean, again, I remember laughing at LL Cool J. I thought he was really funny. I don't remember any of this other plot. I don't remember the toy fight. I don't remember, you know, but I mean, man, is there anything that we didn't cover that I'm just looking through my notes. I wrote at one point, my pen is breaking. I'm taking so many notes. Because they were just like... I did too.

48:20Drew McWeeny:I took tons of notes on this.

48:21Paul Scheer:Just because you...

48:21Drew McWeeny:Oh, see, I didn't take barely any notes. Because I started taking notes and then I was like, fuck this movie.

48:29Jason Mantzoukas:I do want to tell you... I do have some information. I owe you at some point. You do. You do. God damn right you do. I'm glad that you brought it to our attention. We needed to see it. This is the one movie that on Twitter I've gotten the most negative response to by people like, why are you making me watch it with screen grabs of the movie? It's great. It's so great to watch that come out.

48:54Paul Scheer:Considering what you've shown, that's a high endorsement.

48:58Jason Mantzoukas:Yes. Well, it was easy to get. Now, obviously, we had an opinion about this movie. But there are other people who have – they think it's a little bit better. And this is now time for a second opinion. Second opinion.

49:15Jason Mantzoukas:Okay, here we go. There are so many good ones. I may just read you samplings from them. This one is from Britt Scherenhausen, and he says, I describe this movie as whimsical. That's a nice way of saying that most people won't like it. You're definitely not going to like it if you have no imagination or you expect your movies to make sense. like any work that strays far from the mainstream it's going over the top sometimes but let that slide and enjoy the bits that do catch your fancy wow five stars five stars what? come on man how about this one from Adele Thompson Tinky from New Jersey she writes I like the scenes she spells scenes S-C-E-A-N-S wow I like the scenes that they do in the movie is good wait Wait, what?

50:06Jason Mantzoukas:Yep, that's real. I'm reading it real. Uh-oh. I like the scenes they do in the movie is good. Like how they made this big room with all these toys. I'm not talking about the storyline. I like this movie for ideas. I saw the buggy and horse that have Ken and Barbie on it in Disney World. It displayed in the Cinderella Castle. And I remember when I just turned 17 then. I have a good memory. Whoa. Five out of five. There's a lot going on in that review. She's at Disneyland at 17? That might have been someone that worked at Z-Vo. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. These are now, I'm just going to... Okay, this is another one.

50:46Jason Mantzoukas:Possibly the only film next to Peter Sellers' The Mouse That Roared. This has to be the most ingenious film of all time. It's simply a shame that they have yet to release it on DVD, yet they carry all of Adam Sandler's films. That should tell us something about the intelligence and sophistication in America. Oh, well. Wow. Oh, well, I guess I just have to buy another copy of this film and press it to DVD myself. Right. So that means that it inspires that much passion.

51:15Paul Scheer:I'm going to make the DVD.

51:17Drew McWeeny:And you know what? Fuck you, Sandler. Let me make sure to get a slam in on Adam Sandler.

51:23Jason Mantzoukas:Also, she's been watching the VHS so much. He's got to buy another copy. The only trouble with this film is that since Barry Levinson took his time writing it, it It shows wit and compassion on so many levels that I doubt the average American intellect could understand the film. Most people that I enjoy being around find this to be one of the funniest films in existence. Five stars. Oh, my God. And I just wrote, these are two more that are good.

51:46Drew McWeeny:Can you imagine, what if you were on a date with somebody and they were like, you know what my favorite movie is? Toys. I would straight up punch that girl in the face.

51:54Jason Mantzoukas:First you go, Toy Story? Yeah, I love Toy Story. Oh, me too. I love Toy Story 2. Toys. What? Toys. I believe in the state of California you could shoot somebody Totally justified Curling River says The war between the good toys and the war toys is heartbreaking And oddly very realistic No, no and no Five stars there And finally, and I know I'm reading a lot

52:19Paul Scheer:It must be the airplane that looks like it's badly blue screened on

52:22Jason Mantzoukas:Oh god This is one of my favorites here too Okay, this is the best From Gilbert G. Gilbert I'm not a fan of rap by any means but I really got a kick out of LL Cool J's performance and it's fun to watch his character develop into a toy factory loving guy Robin Williams brilliant as always and the rest of the cast is enjoyable as well I think the most important scene in this movie is definitely the fake vomit testing room that turns into a potentially deadly crossword puzzle Wow, that's a totally different read than I had on that That is the most important scene? That scene feels like they went in for reshoots.

52:59Jason Mantzoukas:Like, shit, we didn't have anything. We need something that's funny. We need a scene where you guys just improvise about fake vomit for five minutes. That scene actually I did enjoy. Forever. I mean, we have that on tape too. But they basically just.

53:10Drew McWeeny:I like when the guy goes, oh, that's diarrhea. That shouldn't be in here.

53:17Jason Mantzoukas:They sit around a fake vomit. Oh, that's our Wolfgang Chuck. That's our Maui Heave. Yeah. And they go, oh, we need to add fake carrots in there. And then the room is basically coming in on them. Yeah. Because as they expand, I guess the walls are flexible in this world. Oh, yeah, because the cafeteria walls. It needs more room, yes. Guys, Drew, I appreciate you bringing this to our attention. I don't. I don't, Drew. You and I are enemies. Yes, that's fine. I do believe, though, that this is, if we had to vote on it, this is the number one movie of how did this get made because it really, how would you sell it?

53:53Jason Mantzoukas:How would you pitch it? And I think you're right. The only way you could have done it is based on Barry Levinson was just hitting them out of the park. Yeah. Boom. Consistent, consistent, consistent. And then it was like, and this is my dream. You probably have a memory of this. What are some other of these dream projects that have gone horribly wrong? Are there any that come to mind?

54:12Paul Scheer:Oh, man. Not a real fan. But, yeah, it's one of those things that it's almost always a red flag. When you hear a filmmaker say, for 20 years, this has been the thing that I've wanted to make, and they make it finally. Yeah. It just seems tough.

54:27Jason Mantzoukas:I want to see, because like James Cameron also talked about Avatar and writing it and they weren't ready for it. But like I want to see Barry Levinson throughout those 12 years like taking that script out of the shelf, you know, off the end of the drawer and going, OK, skip back into it. I think we need a fake vomit scene. Ooh, I did some good work on toys today.

54:44Paul Scheer:It was him and his wife at the time, Valerie Curtin, who was his co-writer for like And Justice For All and Old Friends. And there was a whole series of things. And then he went off and started making movies. and just kind of held on to it as his thing. I wonder if she saw the final film and recognized anything that they had done. That'd be interesting, yeah.

55:01Jason Mantzoukas:I would love to hear Barry Levinson talk about this movie because I don't think he has. Was it received, Will? No. No, it was tanked.

55:07Paul Scheer:It vanished quickly. Yeah, it was a— How much did it cost?

55:10Jason Mantzoukas:It actually cost quite a lot, I'll tell you right here. Here we go. The movie—the movie—the budget was$43 million, which in 1992 was a lot of big. That's a lot of money. Yeah, that's still a big movie. And especially a movie that's pretty much all on sets. It's not, you know, and it only made$23 million. That's worldwide. That's worldwide. Really?

55:34Paul Scheer:Worldwide. Wow. And this was between Aladdin and Miss Doubtfire. So he was as hot as hot got at that moment. Holy cow. That's amazing.

55:42Jason Mantzoukas:And again, when you see that, and the way, I mean, the tagline for the movie is, laughter is a state of mind. Everything about it is making you go, this is fun. As I'm looking at this poster right now online, I'm going, I think my dad had this on Laserdisc. Because I think he was like, you like Robin Williams? We'll watch this. Oh, funny. And yeah, I remember just like, maybe it's adult. I don't get it. I mean, I remember.

56:09Drew McWeeny:I did. I think I saw this in the theaters. I mean, I was 20 at the time.

56:14Jason Mantzoukas:Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. I want to get, if anyone knows Barry Levinson, and I would love to hear him speak about this movie, because I feel like now with perspective, I wonder if he defends it. He did win, was nominated for a Best Razzie Award. Oh, yeah. And the movie was up for an Oscar for Best Art Direction, which it should have been. Totally, yeah. Great. Beautiful. Visually beautiful. If a painting came to life, you wouldn't want to see it. That's how I describe toys. Thank you guys so much for listening. As always, you can check us out in all different ways. Drew, what's the best way people can see you and check out your stuff?

56:46Paul Scheer:They can follow me at Drew at HitFix on Twitter or HitFix.com is the website where I review films and write about everything that's in production.

56:54Jason Mantzoukas:And I got to say that is – there are many sites out there. And that site is a great site. I love the iPad app for it. I'm a fan. I'm a fan of that site. And you guys do great stuff there. If you have not checked out that site, check out that site. You can follow me on Twitter at Paul Shear. Jason? Yeah, no, no. You can't follow me on Twitter. Of course not. You guys know better. And Jason and I are in the League. This week on the League, Dirty Randy and Rafi have their own adventure. The whole episode. This is going to be crazy. None of the characters from the League are in it. It is a solo adventure of those two characters.

57:27Jason Mantzoukas:Check that out Wednesday, 1030. And as always, oh, actually, very big week for NTSF, our London episode. We went to London. We shot in London with amazing people. Anthony Stewart Head, Julian Barrett. Giles. Yeah, Giles. Colin Salmon. Saskia Reeves from Luther. are amazing, amazing people. We're doing a half-hour-long episode all in London. Check that out, Adult Swim, Thursday night. Please watch that. It starts at midnight this week. And also, this show would not be complete without thanking everybody here at Earwolf. Give it up for our engineer, Frank Capella, who cuts this show, does an amazing job every single week, and also all of the interns who have been working so tirelessly to help this out.

58:03Jason Mantzoukas:They are Nathan Kiley, Averill Halley, Katie Dyer, am I pronouncing that right, Katie? Leanna Waldron and Sonya Weiser these people have worked their asses off to make sure that I have the most up to date info about these terrible terrible movies thank you guys so much for all of your help all of your creativity and we couldn't do the show without you alright thanks so much and we'll see you next time