Chaos in Epstein Hearings as Lutnick Caught Lying, He Brought His Kids to The Island

11 Feb 2026 · 14 min · 3 chapters

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Podcast Episode Notes: Chaos in Epstein Hearings as Lutnick Caught Lying, He Brought His Kids to The Island

Podcast Overview Title: IHIP News Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie "Pumps" Sullivan Description: Progressive podcasters navigate political news with comedic and feel-good discussions, airing episodes twice weekly, or more during critical events.

Episode Summary In this episode, the hosts critically assess Howard Lutnick, a figure linked to the Epstein scandal, and the implications of his actions and statements regarding Jeffrey Epstein. Lutnick’s narrative is scrutinized as inconsistencies are highlighted, particularly concerning his interactions with Epstein and his family's presence on Epstein's private island.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Moral Outrage and Parental Responsibility
  2. Lutnick’s initial claim of disgust towards Epstein in 2005 is juxtaposed with revelations that he and his family dined with him in 2012, after Epstein was convicted as a pedophile.
  3. The hosts express disbelief regarding how a parent could willingly expose their children to a known sexual predator.
  4. Key Quote: “What type of parent emails a convicted pedophile and gives the details of their children?”
  1. Inconsistencies in Lutnick's Narrative
  2. Lutnick’s story evolved from claiming he would never associate with Epstein again to admitting he had lunch with him while on a family vacation.
  3. His attempt to downplay the situation raises questions about honesty and accountability in political figures.
  1. Political Corruption and Elite Accountability
  2. The episode touches on the “cover-up” of pedophilia in political circles, with a focus on Trump-era connections and the lack of accountability for those involved.
  3. The discussion addresses how elite families, including Lutnick’s, profit from political actions (e.g., tariffs) while simultaneously engaging in morally reprehensible behaviors.
  1. Impact of Epstein Scandal on Society
  2. The hosts express their anger towards the normalization of predatory behavior and the implications for societal values.
  3. They argue that those complicit in protecting sexual predators within powerful circles should face public condemnation and accountability.

Important Quotes

  • "You do not do that to your children. It's disgusting."
  • "This is one of the largest active cover-ups in American history for pedophiles."

Final Thoughts

  • The episode concludes with a call to action, urging listeners to engage in activism against the moral and political decay represented by figures like Lutnick and the larger implications of the Epstein case on justice and accountability in America.
  • The hosts emphasize that such behavior should not be normalized and that moral clarity is essential in confronting these issues.

Key Takeaways

  • Lutnick’s story showcases the complexities and contradictions in narratives surrounding powerful figures associated with sex crimes.
  • There is a call for greater scrutiny of elite networks and their accountability for protecting predators.
  • The episode encourages listeners to reflect on parental responsibility and societal norms regarding the protection of children versus elite interests.

Recommendations

  • Engage with the hosts on social media platforms to discuss the episode further.
  • Consider reading their new book, *Not Today Fascist, The Lies That Got Us Here and The Truths That Will Reunite Us*, which addresses similar themes of accountability and societal values.

Closing Jennifer and Angie wrap up with a reminder to like, subscribe, and comment, ensuring listeners stay connected for future discussions on pressing political issues.

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Unveiling Lutnick's Lies

0:45 to 3:38

Discussion on Howard Lutnick's past statements about Jeffrey Epstein and his contradictory actions.

“immigrant, Elon Musk, immigrant, all cankles deep in the Epstein files.”

The Moral Question of Parenting

3:38 to 6:39

Examination of the implications of Lutnick's wife emailing Epstein post-conviction regarding their children.

“The moral rot in MAGA is something that I cannot put into words.”

The Epstein Cover-up

6:39 to 13:16

Analysis of the broader implications of the Epstein case and Lutnick's involvement with political elites.

“The fact that he had so much arrogance that he would get on TV and say that knowing that these emails had to be out there tells me he knew the fix was in.”
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0:04Make no mistake about it, the biggest cover-up in American history is happening right this second. But don't worry. The White House is on it. They are going to go after pedophiles. Play the clip. And let me correct the record. Number one, the Trump administration has been clear from day one that any illegal alien present in this country is subject to deportation. However, the priority, of course, is going after the convicted criminals, the worst of the worst, the murderers, the pedophiles, the rapists in this country. Interestingly, in the C - Okay. So obviously, Caroline, I would point you in the direction of Peter Thiel, immigrant, Elon Musk, immigrant, all cankles deep in the Epstein files.

0:51But let's turn our sights to Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick, who pumps an eye from Ron Filipkowski, to be fair, calls him Howard Nutlick. And Howard Nutlick made a big stink about when he met Jeffrey Epstein in 2005. He thought he's gross and he's never going to have anything to do with him again. Let's revisit this feigned moral clarity and faux outrage. Play the clip. I say to him, massage table in the middle of your house? How often do you have a massage? And he says, every day. And then he gets weirdly close to me. And he says, and the right kind of massage. Now, my wife is standing here.

1:44So she looks at me, and I look at her. And we say, I'm sorry. we have to go and we left and in the six or eight steps it takes to get from his house to my house my wife and I decided that I will never be in the room with that disgusting person ever again so I was never in the room with him okay so that was two he's talking about a meeting in 2005 he and his wife were disgusted stomped out from his million-dollar penthouse to their multi-million-dollar penthouse. But in 2012, after Jeffrey Epstein was a convicted pedophile, the wife of Howard Nutlick sends Jeffrey Epstein's assistant the following email, put this up.

2:38She says, hi, Jeff, we are landing in St. Thomas early Saturday afternoon and planning to head over to St. Bart's Anguilla on Monday at some point. Where are you located? What is the exact location for my captain? Does Sunday evening for dinner sound good? I have another couple, Michael and Marcy Lehrman, with me on my boat. And each of us has four children, two 16s, two 14s, a 13, a 12, an 11, and a seven-year-old thinks Howard. And I've seen conflicting reports that the wife sent the email and I've also seen that Howard sent it. So this is something that has really sat with me because how do you as a parent let your child knowingly around a pedophile, a sexual predator, What type of parent emails a convicted pedophile and gives the details of their children and their arrival and wants their children to go eat lunch with a pedophile?

3:52The moral rot in MAGA is something that I cannot put into words. It's both disturbing and angering, but there's something about that message about the children and giving their ages that has sat with me that who, what parent, what parent knowingly sends their child to dine with a sexual predator? So much so that he ran cover on it. He lied to the New York Post. But here he is yesterday in Congress and Chris Van Hollen just tearing into him. Play this clip. I think you understand the root of concern here. It's the way you described very emphatically your first encounter with him in his apartment, said you were disgusted, would never have any contact with him again.

4:52Did you in fact make the visit to Jeffrey Epstein's private island? I did have lunch with him as I was on a boat going across on a family vacation. My wife was with me, as were my four children and nannies. I had another couple with, they were there as well with their children. And we had lunch on the island. That is true for an hour. and we left with all of my children, with my nannies and my wife all together. We were on family vacation. We were not apart. To suggest there was anything untoward about that in 2012, I don't recall why we did it, but we did it. Mr. Secretary, again, as I said there.

5:40I'll tell you what's untoward about it is that he's a convicted pedophile at that time, and everybody knew it. And you knowingly and your wife sent your kids to Petto Island. And then you lie about it to the American public. And then you sit and crack jokes when Donald Trump talks about it being a hoax. You stand behind him and just giggle and you think it's a real knee slapper. You're a shitty parent. You're a shitty person. It shocks the conscience that a parent can send their child and their children to dine with a sex offender. This is something I will never understand. It will never be normal to me.

6:22And he needs to resign. And I mean, honestly, all of them do. But I think if we can laser focus and get one of them to fall, we can keep probing to get the others to fall. It's just beyond the pale. It angers me to the core of my conscience. Well, it's so shocking. And here's the thing he's like, for you to insinuate, You are the one that went on an interview and talked about how disgusting Jeffrey Epstein was in 2005 and that you and your wife were disgusted and you would never go back. The fact that he had so much arrogance that he would get on TV and say that knowing that these emails had to be out there tells me he knew the fix was in.

7:05He never thought these files would be released. He thought he could lie just like Donald Trump does. and escape any accountability. It's disgusting. It's gross. And I hope their friends and their social circle are as every bit as grossed out and shocked as we are. And I hope they become pariahs because you do not do that to your children. It just doesn't, never should that happen. All right, listen up, listener. The Trump administration has said that we cannot call them fascists. And the last time I checked, we still had a first amendment. So naturally, I've been busy writing a book called Not Today Fascist, The Lies That Got Us Here and The Truths That Will Reunite Us.

7:50My book will publish on October 6th. And if you really want to give the administration the bird, go over and pre-order it wherever books are sold. It's beyond the pill. And then the other couple that went with them. I mean, it's just, it's such a shocking thing. But again, it makes sense that they're all friends. Donald Trump sexualizes his own daughter. You know, he talks about going into dressing rooms with teens. And men that do this type of thing have dehumanized children and human beings alike. They don't just, you know, predate on women only. They've dehumanized a whole lot of them. And Donald Trump has been mentioned in the Epstein files per Jamie Raskin over a million times.

8:44He was in on it. He's in on it up to his eyeballs. And a lot of people in Congress pumps are going to justice, DOJ, and they're viewing and looking at unredacted stuff. And here is a montage of Congress people after they come out of these rooms seeing the real evidence that's unredacted. Play this clip. Lots of names, lots of co-conspirators, and they're trafficking girls all across the world. A bunch of sick fucks. Nine-year-old victims. Initially, my reaction to all this was, I don't care. I don't know what the big deal is. But now I see what the big deal is. Pause it right there. Pause. Republican from Wyoming, nine-year-old, a nine-year-old victim.

9:36And this is what's so important that people have to understand about sexual predators. It doesn't stop with adults. They see all the whole gamut available for exploitation. This shocks the conscience. And this is one of the largest coverups, active coverup in American history for pedophiles. And all the people that support this get on their high horse and lecture us about their Christian values. Okay, continue with the clip. Redacted. They probably shouldn't have been redacted. Yeah, six men's names. One of them's listed as a co-conspirator. Why would you redact his name? I believe that there were tons of completely unnecessary redactions in addition to the failure to redact the names of victims.

10:22Most of the unredacted files were redacted. 70, 80 percent of the documents the DOJ got were redacted from the FBI. A lot of it was smoke and mirrors. One was related to whether or not Trump had ever kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago, as claimed. What did you find? That is not true. Some of the people that are in the most egregious redactions are claiming to be victims, and I don't think that they're victims if you're engaging in shots like trafficking. Do you support any clemency for Ghislaine Maxwell? I do not. I think Ghislaine Maxwell should get more time, and she should definitely be in a harsher prison than what she's in.

11:00It's absolutely disgusting. What's your message to Pam Bondi after what you saw today? They need to do a little more work. This is bringing down the British government, and they It's bringing down the British monarchy. It's bringing down countries and the elites across the country. What are we doing here in the United States to stand up to the Epstein class? What we're doing here is the Trump administration is having a stage five meltdown about Bad Bunny. That's what they're doing. And he's being provocative with our allies. And then let me just throw you, Howard Nuttluck, what he's up to when he's not dining with pedophiles and his children.

11:37Pop up this last story, Kylie. Lutnik was a primary force behind Trump's tariffs. He's been pushing them as he bets the other way. Another Jewish billionaire, hedge fund manager Paul Singer, is set to reap billions from Trump's invasion of Venezuela. This whole thing is a constructed criminal enterprise. So the kids that dined with the pedophile, now they're grownups. And Howard Lutnick's family is set to make billions when the Supreme Court strikes down Trump's tariffs. Cantor Fitzgerald, a financial services firm run by his two sons, has been quietly buying up the rights to tariff refunds for 20 to 30 cents on the dollar.

12:24So while they are actively a part, the whole family, actively a part of a pedophile, sex trafficking, child rape ring for elites to act with impunity, for parents to say, hey, we're bringing our kids over to the island. By the way, they're age nine through 16 and there's eight kids total. Sick. Sick as all get out. Now, this whole thing is a total shakedown. All of this tariff stuff, all of these people surrounding Trump are making billions upon billions of dollars and they're using 250 years worth of American policy, fuck-ups, successes, all of this stuff, not to make the country better, but to make pedophiles richer.

13:15That's where we are in the United States right now. Well, and here's the thing about all of these people in these files. They are continuing to stay behind the curtains and continuing to escape accountability because Donald Trump is right in the middle of it and they can't hold him accountable. So DOJ is protecting all of this elite class. While also, I read that the tariffs have cost an American family$1 ,000. And yet billionaires have received billions of dollars in tax cuts. So it's like, not only are we going to protect them from their moral depravity, we're going to protect their pocketbooks, all at the expense of little girls and the working class.

14:00It is gross. These people should be shamed out of the world. But guess what? You cannot shame the shameless. All right. That's all we have. Please like, subscribe, comment, and we will be back later with more news.

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